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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- evo's Jethro Bovingdon take the Porsche 991 Turbo S to Anglesey circuit to put the 552bhp 911 against the clock and earn its place on the evo Leaderboard. Will it beat the Nissan GT-R? Can it topple the mighty Ferrari 458 Speciale?
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Everyone talks about Chris Harris but I like this guy too. They actually review things pretty similarly!
TheBlurReturns16 A little too similarly if you ask me. This guys is great but I prefer watching Chris give it "the full potatoes".
TheBlurReturns16 I woudnt want to compare but i love Jethro's no-nonsense 'Hot' laps where is he keeps the car right at the edge of grip.I love Harris a lot,and all those beautiful drifts but i would love to see more very clean hot laps too in every review.Not saying he cant,because as we have seen in his Goodwood racing videos,he knows how to extract every last bit of grip from whatever he drives.
TheBlurReturns16 Thats because Jethro and Chris are long time mates, and even used to work together on Drivers Republic. Many a times you will find Chris talking about Jethro in his videos and vice-versa.
Avishar Dutta Agreed! I'm glad you know your CHOC vids. Some people say he does too much 'hoonage" but the Goodwood Revival video shows just how talented he is. I just love watching CH dance the F12 around Anglesey as he "shags some tires" in slo motion at 1080p.
TheBlurReturns16 i like this guy more!
I can only see one problem with owning a turbo s.......keeping hold of your driving license :)
gareth thwaite and visiting gas stations quite often
That's not a problem just a inconvenience lol
right, yolo
Tadas well if you can buy this Porsche then you can refill also
Tadas According to Porsche:
Urban in l/100 km (mpg) 13.2 (21.4)
Non-urban in l/100 km (mpg) 7.7 (36.7)
Combined in l/100 km (mpg) 9.7 (29.1)
I'm not saying that you will get these figures in a real life scenario, but if you're imagining Porsches as being gas guzzling monsters, that's not true.
There was an extended owner review of the Carrera S PDK around here and that guy was saying he's getting 14l/100 km city driving. According to him, the PDK helps a lot, as the manual owners are getting 16l/100 in similar conditions. These cars are "frugal" for their performance.
I can see your point on how you could force eat to make fuel disappear in no time, though :)
6.2 to 100 MPH ..pretty much nose to nose with a MacLaren F1
Incredible!
McLaren F1 is 23 years old and is 8 seconds faster to 300 kmh than this Turbo S and 1 second faster than an Aventador. Now THATS incredible. McLaren F1 is simply the king of the supercars. And the engine sound of that V12 is.. magical.
Jort Rinket German BMW V12 engine inside, not surprised at all. ;)
Jort Rinket McLaren F1 would have no chance on a track like this vs Turbo S. True story.
Jort Rinket Exactly the f1 and the zonda lineup to me are the most special supercars ever made.
Jort Rinket It's a lot lighter than this Porsche though.
"This Turbo S have no technical support, no extra tires to throw at it, and not a single engineer's laptop went anywhere near it."
HAHA! Sounds like a jab at Woking and Maranello. Stuttgart has this hands-down!
SPEED senz AZN Same thing happened with 918 Spyder. McLaren and Ferrari were with multiple sets of tyres, technicians and track setups etc. Porsche be like "here's the key. Drop the car back when you're done"
I concur. My comment was an exact reference to a RUclips vid from MotorTrend in regards to the 918 v P1 v LaFerrari (sans LaFerrari).
SPEED senz AZN That comparison was pointless. It didn't have a proper conclusion. Although the 918's lap was phenomenal, they prefer the P1 as a driver's car. So I have no clue at all who won that. And I don't care if Ferrari didn't take part because it's not like all of us can afford one of those three cars anyway.
SilverArrow WilliamsMartini I absolutely agree with you. There is no point in any these comparisons (especially those with stratospheric price-tags). It really is all about bragging rights (perhaps respect even).
If you have that kind of cash, you will buy the one you want anyway. Not because which has the best 0-60 or which records the fastest lap, but you buy what makes you happy. Example, although there is no comparison testing or quantifiable figures, Ferrari had more takers versus cars on the day LaFerrari was revealed in Geneva.
I am fairly certain it matters little to you which company won the comparison according to MT... a title that is subjective to the reviewer. You probably already made your decision even before the video and probably was rooting for "your team" (like watching basketball).
Porsche's "here's the keys, do as you please" attitude and McLaren's "we'll play, but let us watch to see what more improvements we can make" approach were a real joy to behold.
As for the Prancing Horse, the company's smugness is a real deterrent. However, I do not matter to them as I am just one guy versus Ferrari's order bank of 7,000 cars a year, with a fan base the world over.
SPEED senz AZN And thats is exactly what is wrong with Ferrari. Their attitude. They think that people will buy their cars regardless of what, they can get away with anything.
Do you think Porsche or McLaren won't sell cars if they lose a race or anything? No. They're just happy to have their cars compared with others. And Ferrari isn't.
I'm a 997.2 Turbo S owner and i can personally tell you these cars are fast as hell every where. No need for a track, no need for reving to 9000 rpm and no need to outfit it in any special fashion. It is very well adapted in the city and on the highway plus gets great gas mileage for a Super Car. I think its "the best 911 at being the best all the time. "
Finally a man who knows how to drive a 911 turbo, so many reviews and testers simply do not drive it to its full potential, it is a different car to the other mid engined cars and should be treated as such, just goes to show, when you know how to use it, the 911 turbo is untouchable.
jamietherooster it's the best car on the planet!
Best car ever made.
As a daily driver of the turbo, I can say this thing is absolutely the best super sport car I enjoy driving. I've driven it in very wet streets, rough roads, traffic and always gives me what I'd expect from it without a single issue. Hands down, and hey you want to race its always ready and wont let you down regardless of the other car or driver.
Just got mine, and I totally agree
That moment when the german Gran Touring car beats the sh*t out of the super track focused, stripped dwon italian supercar.
Italian's supercars have something special you won't never feel in any German car.
Giovanni Quargentan yeah i get it there is more drama in it, but you can have almost the same afffect by removing a bit of the silencing in the exhaust. The germans like their understatement/ daily usability in their cars.
Nah. German cars are like computers: very, very good, but cold and apathetic, boring.
Italian's are like people: simply, hot, funny.
Giovanni Quargentan - Porsche is 'Cold' and 'Apathetic'?? .. 911 drips of 'Passion' and 'Soul' .. Sit in a 911 GT3 .. hardly a computer more 'Analog' (despite PDK and rear wheel steer) than anything that 'Ferrari' has done recently and this called 'Soul' you twerp
Giovanni Quargentan Congrats on the most ill informed and idiotic comment of the year!
If I could choose any car, and I wasn't ever allowed to sell it, I'd take this one.
I love how you summarized the car so well, and then, when you ran the fast lap, you just--were silent--and let the car do all the talking. Outstanding review of an outstanding car.
I love Ferraris (the cars) but Ferrari (the company) could definitely learn something from Porsche... Total transparency: no special software tweaks for a specific lap, no special tires, no special anything. Just a bog standard Turbo S and the confidence it will beat anything this side of a million pounds. Brilliant.
Porsches are just masterpieces
Literal works of art.
Wow. Porsche is an engineering FU to everyone it competes with. I love it.
Anyone who talks smack about a Turbo S has never driven a Turbo S
Evander Smart Amen to that! They warp your brain!
+Evander Smart You are 1000% correct.
Exactly
The only people that talk shit about Porsche are GTR fanboys, Lamborghini fanboys and Honda NSX fanboys
Exactly....
0-60 ins 2.6 secs ?! the turbo never gets the credit it deserves. The GT3 gets all the credit. the thing is if any of us one day could afford to get this, most of us would be on the road most of the time. This is a great gt car and I love it !! Now let the gtr fanboys fight begin !!!
Suraj John Not defending the GTR, but its hard to compared the two when the GTR starts at 101k and the turbo s starts at 181k. I'd go GT3 (merely personal preference) or just buy a GTR and put that 80k I save into a Switzer kit to have a 1100hp GTR.
mtr324 haha true, cant compare the two. ive never been a fan of 1000hp high hp cars, i dont think ill ever have the talent to drive those ams, switzer ugr cars. but yeah at 100k the gtr is a bargain, so is the srt viper and z06. great era we live in !
Agreed! If you have the time, I suggest watching the Switzer GTR video on /Drive (the 2nd video, not the e85). Its the only 1000hp car I'd ever consider.
I can't agree more
mtr324 Buy a Golf R, and put $25k in it and you have a 750hp car for < $100k ... even better.
Good to see Jethro again!
Now imagine the 991 GT2 RS. Please Porsche make that car!
Can Tavukçuoğlu There were a lot of rumors semi confirmed about it coming in 2-3 years but definitely after the refurb that they do to the cars mid life, bit like a .5
Can Tavukçuoğlu It would be nice for them to make one. It would actually destroy cars like the Speciale and 650S, considering that it would have over 120 hp more than the current GT3 and would weight significantly less. And possibly have a PDK, together with rear wheel steering. But it would take away from potential buyers of both the 911 Turbo and the GT3, so that's why I think they're holding back. Its not very feasible at the moment
turboman1505, Rumour is that the team that did the 918 is working on a new mid engine car slotted below the 918, that's why they won't build a GT2.
Maxawe Some Oh that's right! Completely forgot about that. A direct competitor with McLaren and Ferrari's mid engine supercars. The only problem with that is we're not gonna see that car into production until 2017/2018. But Porsche has a way of making cars of the future so even if McLaren and Ferrari up their game, Porsche will still be one step ahead.
Can Tavukçuoğlu i would recommend it !!!!!
they should keep it up, porsche ´s the best
The 991 Turbo S is just epic. Definitely the car of our time. The only supercar you can have now that is not compromising anything.
Damn evo. Damn. Damn. Damn. Best reviews in existence. Quality Driver/Journalist, videography and editing. Love it.
2.6 to 60?.....2.6!!!!
Best car in the world. Period.
frdyn8tr...full stop!
I love the turbo s. But theres this car called chiron now... But ofcourse on a totally different league in terms of pricing.
Chiron is NOT in the same "Best at everything" category the Turbo S is. The Turbo S does everything so well, not many cars, if any can compete.
Wow! Was not expecting that to be honest. Great car. Plus you could drive it to work everyday in the rain and be perfectly happy :)
I didn't expect that. What a car. Phenomenal review as always.
This is also hands down the best daily driver from that list....What a car!
I'd have this, 650S, a GT-R, a Silvia S15, NSX N1, e39 M5, an Evo X and a Range Rover Sport. Dream garage.
That go-pro setup between the seats was excellent! Great sensation of the car moving about.
Porsche is just remarkable. They're owning the racing circuit in LMP1, GTLM, and GTE Pro. Their pre-race preparation is supremely organized and readied second to none. It's just remarkable how perfect they are from top to bottom. No wonder the 911 Turbo's are nearly perfect. So impressive.
I don't really know why it beating the Specially is such a surprise. It is well known that the Turbo S is brutally quick and combined with the 4 wheel drive it's not really that surprising it does beat the Ferrari.
***** Some people just can't accept the absolute dominance that Porsche is when it comes to sport and super cars. Just accept it already.
metronemy because it is supposed to be a GT car not a track focused supercar with removed interiour components.
headcrash69 When it comes to sports cars, there's no doubt about that. They're untouchable in that category, together with few cars from Lotus and Jaguar. Let's see what McLaren can do with their 570S and 540C.
However, in supercar and hypercar category, it's the Ferrari who has the absolute and indisputable dominance and upper hand. LaFerrari won all comparsion test and reviews, it's rated as the ultimate driver's hypercar on the planet, nothing comes close to it. 458 Speciale is similiar story, it won every comparsion out there, every Car of the Year contest and it's one of the fastest machines on track. It has one of the best engines in the world, perfect balance and driving abilities, unmatched engine and chassis response, best sound, soul and character. It's very puristic and raw, just like the LaFerrari. Simply true driver's car. 911 Turbo S is very fast indeed, no doubt about it, but it's still dull, digital and too unemotional and sterile, like the GT-R. Great daily car, but for real car enthusiasts, there will always be better cars like the 458 Speciale, 911 GT3, Gallardo Squadra Corse and 650S.
By the way, just look what Ferrari achieved in their recent golden era:
Ferrari 458 Italia - best supercar for 6 years continuously
Ferrari 599 GTO - best front engined supercar
Ferrari 458 Speciale - best track focused sharp supercar
Ferrari F12 - best super GT
Ferrari LaFerrari - best hypercar and best current car in the world
Porsche makes really impressive and capable cars, like the 911 GT3 (I would take it over the Turbo S any day), Cayman GTS and GT4, but there's no dominance in the supercar or hypercar category from their side.
Radek Vinš "LaFerrari won all comparsion test and reviews". You must live in a different world than ours. NEVER seen LaFerrari in any comparison.
Zi Wang they won´t allow a comparison.
Greatest sports car ever made. The fact that it's still being overlooked just makes it that much cooler.
Since 2000 and Nfs porsche unleashed the turbo has always been my favorite... From 996 to 997 and now this!! Just amazing
If I ever hit the lottery this would be one of the first things I buy.
By for me too
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Don't forget me.
C'mon guys. I'd have to be the only winner of the Powerball to cover all this. How about we can all meet up and you can drive my Turbo S? lol
best review of the best car ever
I keep on hearing people saying that Turbo S is not as exciting as the gt3. Seriously, the turbo and the turbo S would blow your mind away easily any day. The gt3 is actually a poser to a GT3 cup car.
1:13.6s for an all weather GT car!!! WOW. That McLaren P1 time should be disqualified as McLaren did a tire switch
This is all a car review needs to be, is practically perfect, maybe a little of public roads shooting is missed, but that's all, awesome review!!!
Heart warming video!!
Many thanks! The Turbo S is indeed amazing. It's an incredible lap time.
Superb review! Loved it, that's a car for the ages and he's right, it's kind of being forgotten about.
A few years ago 0-60 in under 3 seconds seemed like an impossibility, now there is at least 10 production cars that can do it. Nuts.
Ultimate car.Just put my Zr1 for sale and this is the next one.Just waiting to get a deal on a slightly used one.
i rode in one yesterday . insanely fast ans fun.
What a car and what driving!
The Turbo S looks so stable.
Epic!
Out of all Porsche variants the Turbo S seems the most Porsche-like. The motor in the rear swinging the tail around quickly while the front wheels help claw it out immediately with the massive turbo torque taking advantage of the grip advantage of the rear layout.
This video confirms my good decision to just have picked up a pristine 991.1 turbo s. I can't wait to get it on track.
There's nobody better than Jethro for reviews... he is the benchmark
I have to say - I'm one of those that have forgotten about the Turbo S simply because of the 4wd, turbocharging and migration into the GT arena. But wow - is it supremely capable. If it weren't for the relative lack of noise and manual, that would be right at the top of the list. As it stands, the GT3 RS 4.0 is still THE drivers car to have if you must have a third pedal.
Hats off to EVO. That was a fabulous review containing great shots of the beast in action!
Incredible car
What's even more amazing is that Porsche did not send a single engineer or a new set of tires for this lap time. Can't really say the same about Ferrari, or Mclaren when testing their P1.
Is there a car beyond this in desirability? The Aston Martin Vanquish has always had a special place in my heart
Some great driving , awesome review. These are truly amazing cars. I have a 2012, and plan to keep it long term. I like the slightly less refined 997.2, I think, although I have not had the chance to drive a new version. More inclined I think, to also buy a Cab. of the same vintage, as I can have both for the cost of one new or newer S. These cars are excellent value in the low mile used market, as they are reliable, and not so difficult or expensive to maintain as the Italian supercars.
For everybody who's comparing with McLarens and Ferraris: With a Porsche you're excited on the race track today and tomorrow you're strolling through narrow and bumpy back roads in the highlands or in the alps. And the day thereafter you go to work with exactly the same car. Day after day. That makes the real difference! Welcome to "the Porsche world" :-)
LifestylePorsche That's what McLaren are aiming for with the new 540C which is unbelievably slightly cheaper than the Turbo S. Porsche need to look over their shoulder as McLaren have only been building mass market cars for 3 years!
A well driven Turbo S is a thing of beauty. Well driven Jethro!!!!!
That is amazing, Im speechless. 1.2 sec slower then a 918 makes me ask is the 911 turbo that good or is the 918 unimpressive. I know 1.2 sec in racing is a lot but not in the real world. Your not going to notice without a stop watch telling you which is faster.
What you have to account for is the track. On a faster circuit i can assure you the 918 will be miles ahead. i reckon a good 4-5 seconds on SPA for example. Anglessey is a very VERY slow circuit. Hypercars dont get to express their full potential (900hp) since you can never get over 140mph anyway.
Average speed of anglessey is between 60-70 mph (its 1.5miles and it takes over a minute to complete even in a 918 or a P1)
This is also why the GT3RS is no faster than the turbo on this track (and the speciale is slower)
People see a lap time and consider it the be all and end all to arguments when in fact tracks suit different cars.
Anglessey is a HANDLING circuit.
I can assure you i was taken on a hotlap in 918 by a proffessional on Paul ricard circuit in france. The difference between a 918 and a NON hyper car is otherworldy.
KingKrusty Yes I totally get it and I would love to have a 918. But here's the thing for me. For that rare of a car and for that money shouldn't I be able to say "I can beat you like a drum on any track"?
I see your point, but put it this way. A golf kart will be faster around a golf course than a formula 1 car. Because a formula one car doesnt have the turning circle or clearance that a golf kart does. Same for super cars and race tracks. Certain cars are designed to be fast on fast tracks. Anglessey is a slow track where the 918 and ESPECIALLY the P1 struggle to USE all the power they have at their disposal.
The fact that the hyper cars are faster even on a track like this is a testament to how well they HANDLE.
I can assure you a tiny Go-kart will be faster around a tiny karting circuit than a Laferrari. Does this mean that the go-kart is a faster car? No it doesnt.
KingKrusty Yes your right in my back yard my 2 year old can push his toy car faster then any Ferrari or porsche.... So those cars aren't fast. No that's not the point at all. Most tracks and in most situations the 911 is with in a few seconds of the most expensive and most exclusive Super cars that is remarkable. That is my point.
Well its a well known fact that the higher in performance the smaller the margin is. a P1 is 8x the price of a 570s, it doesnt make it 8x faster. Also a "few seconds" in motorsport is a considerable difference. In a quarter mile drag race a second of difference is a huge distance.
The Porsche Turbo - Warping Time & Space since 1975.
For about a decade in the back of Road&Track in the road-test summaries it "held the bold" for quickest 0-60 @ 5.0sec. Ferraris, Lamborghinis etc came and went but until the 959 & F40 came along it was KING of production road-legal thrust. Nowdays you can approach that time in a lot of cars with a few bolt-ons and and ECU tune for about 1/10th the price (after inflation), but in those days of crappy FI and dreadful cat-cons it was the closest thing to street-legal hyperspace.
What about that, Ferrari? Feeling "speciale" anymore?
Great review +Jethro you gotta do more often. We miss u man
I love how the navigation was on during the hot lap, and just kept sinning and spinning...
I could just imagine the navi voice saying "In 200 feet, turn left...." lol
I find Jethro's review of this monster gentleman's supercar, very well done-EVO production values are quite high and I am a big Fan........
the fact that it beat the speciale is a surprise! epic car, wonder if there is a GT2 coming???
Almost perfect. Thanks for sharing
Had no clue that this thing is such a beast! Wow! I've always loved Porsche, but now I want one so badly.
The Turbo S is by far the best choice out of any supercar.With a 0-60 time of 2.60s,this is faster than ...well everything.Only the rarest and ultra expensive hypercars,which cost like 7-8 times more can do slightly better,but so slightly that it really doesn't matter 0.1-0.2 of a second...This car is a perfect mix of performance,luxury,practicality,tradition, it just the perfect supercar with any compromise,and for those who complain about beeing soulless,get the cabriolet...Nothing beats a Turbo S,and Jethro Bovingdon is one of my few favourite reviewers,amongside with Steve Sutcliffe,Chris Harris,and Harry Metcalfe!!
Mind = blown
The Turbo S also beat the speciale in a german sportscar magazine, but i actually thought that it did it by chance because of perfect conditions/tires whatever...
But now that it did it again absolutely amazes me..What a car, Force of nature might just be the perfect description!
The 911 Turbo S has always consistently been the best car ever in my opinion. Just keeps better and better. The definitive 911, and the ultimate GT.
its the ultimate everyday road car for me. not just pure performance but typical porsche driving thrills and luxury as well.
Guys, please write in description or in the video what is the intro and outro music... come on...
Also, the F12 vs. Aventador vs. Vanquish... still can't find it...
I tell you what man. That Turbo S is one capable piece of kit. It may have been quicker if it wasn't for that little mess up at the end of the lap.
LOVE the leaderboard segments!!! Please make more videos!!
That is just awesome. And Jethro, you are some pilot!
Incredible!! I've always known that the turbo s is a wicked piece of kit. Just goes to show how Porsche is on top their game right now.
It blows my mind how these automotive journalists think they know better than Porsche. A Porsche 911 Turbo S is a can do EVERYTHING car. And, it constantly puts its rivals on notice.
How ironic that I was just reading a Turbo S review on Car and Driver's website. Shame that its rated at no.7 below the Huracan, SLS etc. It should be higher than them.
There's no doubting the 911 Turbo S' pulverising performance in a straight line or its mesmerising ability around a track but forced induction absolutely destroys the character of that flat 6. A standard Carrera sounds infinitely better and as for the GT3...there's just no competition. Despite its shocking breadth of ability, the 911 Turbo S comes across as a bit soulless.
James B Couldn't have said it better!
Joseph McDonald - I've been lucky enough to drive a 911 Carrera and a 911 Turbo S (admittedly 997 varieties). My experiences were somewhat different to yours.
I liked the bog standard 911 Carrera better - it sounded much better and looked more appealing. I can't deny the 997 Turbo S was an awesome piece of kit (I'm sure the 991 is objectively even better) but it just didn't move me in any way. I wouldn't have one even if I could afford one.
James B Pony up about 2 grand and I'm sure you can fix that exhaust note, and uncork another 15-30hp.
Alex J Dude, go drive one...
ive been saying this car is something incredible since its release, a luxurious everyday sports car who pawn gtr's ferrari's mclaren's like nothing...thats true engineering achievement...
It was on normal street tyres. Not even Semi slicks! That is mighty impressive!
i love the center fov video, not the im on the ground bumper view
Love Jethro’s reviews.
Excellent video - excellent piece by JB
Best 911 Turbo S review hands down!
Well done Jethro great driving as usual, Evo is best
Fantastic wheel work there ..!!
no wonder the best drivers car for the last 50 years and next 50 years xD
More Jethro! He is my favorite car presenter.
Another lovely lovely review
I just wish u did more of them
What did the same generation GT3/RS run on this circuit? This turbo S did 1:13.6 for reference.
Have always loved the Porsche ever since the bad boys film ,they just get better and look so nice, will add this one to my wish list.
amazing car, I wonder if Jethro would prefer the flappy paddle or the 7 speed manual?
What a great presentation and brilliant driving. Give me Jethro over Harris any day.
Love it!
I would take this over a GT3 any day everyday, after all, it is a much better daily driver ;)
Absoluteoy Fantastic Review!!
I don't know why everybody is so surprised. It's been clear this car has been the fastest non hyper car in the world since the day it was launched. You guys need to watch some more youtube videos.
Superb review my man
how do you guys adapt to driving both left-hand and right-handed drives back and forth so well???
I just think about Chris Harris telling us all that the 918 and P1 were a "whole new thing" . Now I think are they really that much better? Chris questioned Porsche on the Hybrid aspect of the 918, why not save the weight and loose the batteries?
More Jethro!
This vid confirms what I have always known... The 911 Turbo S is an incredible performance car at an incredible price!
Just over a second slower than the 918, that is just incredible!!
Very impressive to be faster than the Speciale with no trackside support whatsoever and on the first lap to boot. Obviously different days and conditions, but still very quick for a car some will drive daily.
Faster than 458 Speciale... It's just nuts and nuts. Unbelievable achievment in autumotive!
Jethro is back good stuff