We DON'T NEED 600cc Motorcycles ANYMORE
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I'd smoke that 660 after 40mph ok my r6
My R6 Handled Just Fine on the Street and the suspension was great and yes uncomfortable but had a good rip on it at takeoff’s and yes absolutely I can see that the 660 is a comfortable ride for a hey check me out and I suppose it sounds ok 👌
No more 600’s 😢😢😢😢
I bought a Yamaha R7 a year and a half ago. While it was a good bike, after riding a 600 I traded it immediately for a CBR600RR and have no regrets. Parallel twins will never have the same feel as a inline 4, the sound, looks, and overall experience is way more exciting.
Totaled a 2015 R6,used the insurance money on a 2017 FZ09, less than 4 months I traded my mFZ09 in for a 2011 GSXR 600 never looked back. Can't beat the excitement on a 600
Completely AGREE, a high revving Honda makes a song/experience un-matched by any twin or triple for that matter.
Well said man
Them 600 baby bikes 🤭🤣 hahah I'm juss kidding guys 😅
My buddy bought an R7 for his first bike and almost immediately wanted to sell it for a 600.
Yammie is on his way to becoming a 3-wheel/trike rider...
Ouch…😂
Can never and will never agree! 600 will always have its purpose
Not on the street anymore lol
@@yammienoob it will always have its place! From the sound to the speed it’s an amazing bike in the City and still can stretch its legs when needed. Plus you still get to shift gears while driving slow unlike liter bikes
@@yammienoob if you think 600cc have no place on the street than what about 1k cc hahah
@@yammienoobof course they do. A lot of people love the 600 class, just like the rest of them
@@Giixxersquid So you like constantly shifting?
i agree that an 660 will be more fun on the street than a 600 but theres riders out there who just simply want a 16000 redline
*Fact.*
I thought this video was going to be about how 600cc is too much, but nah it's because 660cc is better lmao
@@LRS7B Oh the R7 itself
@@vasilispapadopoulos9940 😂
@@Bikencarguy ffs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yammie has been throwing heavy shots at 600’s lately
I was going to say the same thing.
Dude fr!
i just bought one a week ago and now these videos...
@@micahgorbics8556 bro enjoy the bike all he’s saying is it’s not a street bike but a track bike and that don’t mean u can’t use it on both plus they r hella fun so jus rev the fuck out of it and have fun bro
Yammie shouldn’t speak for us asians. Maybe american’s don’t need 600s but us oooh… we are even happy with kawis inline 4 250s even made us happy with the coming zx4rr
Yammie is just one of them annoying guys that thinks he is the only person that can handle a high powered motorcycle and will always try to sell the idea of more mundane alternatives to his viewers.
What nonsense are you speakin. Somebody get this man a snickers. We will always need our 600 rocket
Yami has really been on a anti-600 kick lately... This just seems like HE doesn't need more speed. With all his experience of riding he just doesnt get the same enjoyment that he use to.
My first bike after my licence (uk) was a 600 and its the perfect beginner cc. Not too much power and nice n light.
I dailyed a 600cbr. Even did two round trips from San Diego to Vegas. He exaggerates how uncomfortable the ergonomics are. And to argue that a twin has better street application I’d ask ‘how so?’ “It can rip off the line faster cuz of torque” to go where? You’ll be at speed limits in seconds anyway
Yammie . . . No 600s, then you could say the same for 1000s.
Noooooo, the 600 still has purpose
You own one?
@@Illness.og. no but maybe in the future, but my dad has had one for 5 years and said it's the most fun you can have (on a track) and it's always a great laugh
What are you missing? The fucking feeling of a screaming inline 4!!!
There is other inline 4 600cc bikes than only SuperSports, like my cbr 600f 2011.. great little sport tourer :) still looking to buy zx6r at some point :D
Couldn’t agree more. As awesome as the R6 performs (and looks 👍), it’s more enjoyable on the track where the rider can really open it up and experience the R6’s fullest potential.
I am convinced he is just making videos to make us rage! The way things are is perfection! You can have as little or as much hp as you want!
Come to me you sweet BMW S 1000RR!! Power to the people!
1k and 600 bikes have a place in the twisties. On streets, like normal highways and city streets they dont
Just buy an H2 or superlegerra v4 then.
He's also the guy that's junked 2 600s before. He's salty he can't ride them
@@niko1600 Good one! High five!
Nooo couldn't be 😮
I do like my Z650, especially for the daily commute. It’s very much like the equivalent of a V8 car in that you don’t need to wring it’s neck to move fast. I still find myself desiring a a 600 super sport though for the weekend ride just because of the sound and sometimes it’s fun to get up it for the rent!
My first bike was a z650 and I loved it. Recently got a ninja 600 and love it even more
Yeah love my z650 but been thinking of zx6r
A 600 supersport will leave your 650 in the dust to the point you will be like wow did that just happen. Totally different bikes to ride as in polar opposite. They handle different as there alot stiffer, they accelerate and break harder, there so much fun but you will know it after a long ride in your back and legs especially, that's just to do with the more aggressive seating position. I highly recommend getting one.
Z650 is my first bike, had it for about a year and a half. It's great all around, but I'd love to get a CBR650R. Still comfy with more zip and a buttery i4? Plus better wind protection AND more annoying oil changes??? Sounds pretty great for the most part.
04 R6 owner here. It's boring on the streets unless you're breaking laws. Track is where it belongs.
Sadly 600s have been neglected for some time now, when your litre bikes aren’t much heavier than your 600s and have far more power and tech it kind of reduces them to be glorified trainers for those looking to ride litre bikes without looping them down the road.
Yeah disagree many a liter man has come unstuck on a 600cc because they can't ride. A 600cc is totally different to ride than a ltr bike.
Coming from the guy with 6 bikes to choose from and the money for track days, I can’t say I agree with your opinion. Most people have 1 bike and want to experience the power of a 600 and are willing to deal with the uncomfortable aspects. That’s the whole reason the WRX is so popular. Are there far more comfortable cars out there? Yes. Are the average WRX buyers taking them to a track regularly? No. But people *want* that sports car feel it can provide at a great price, and it’s the obvious choice for someone who’s only going to own one car.
NGL, Yammy seems pretty out of touch these days. Preaches “get a slow bike” but then rides 600’s and liter bikes on the track regularly, and fires his turbo hyabusa down the highway. Yeah, I’m sure for him it’s a no brainer to have a comfy bike when he has access an arsenal of two wheeled missiles in the same garage he can use any time, and regularly does.
Tuono isn't slow lol
@Yammie Noob that's what you got out of his comment? lol have you always been like this?
@@yammienoob its 100 hp, so at the wheel that is what, around 75-80 hp?.....I'm sorry but THAT IS SLOW.....
@@themotobikelifethats nowhere close to slow
@@slimfit767 I guess speed is relative, but objectively 75-80 hp at the wheel is low power...there is just no arguing that...
I just can't do a parallel twin, I've tried, but it sounds like half an engine and I can't get passed it on the road, I need the refinement of an inline 4
Parallel twins have that subaru/egg beater sound 😂
That Aprilia motor sounds fantastic.
Im sorry but at this point I’m thinking, “what did 600’s do to you to make you hate riding them on the street so badly”. Don’t drink the punch people, you’ll be missing out on SO MUCH FUN. Supersports are awesome on the track and a blast on the street.
The only bike for the street is a turbo busa. Everything else it just a moped. 😤
It’s hilarious that this dropped literally within an hour of me buying a 1997 rizla livery gsxr 600 😂
This is anti-600cc propaganda aimed to poison the minds of young riders
Getting on the track 4 times a year is a ton for your average street rider. It is once a month, during riding season, up in these parts.
Won't have any other bike than a 600cc.
600cc just make very low torque at low to mid rpm. In a way, they are kind of weak for the street.
Sorry this is just a shitty take. Motorcycles are first and foremost fun vehicles, not transportation. The 600 is plentiful and accessible, delivers insane performance for the price, and sounds great. It’s not going anywhere
Ohhhhh shit dude ROAstED Me 😩😩😩
The same with 2 stroke bikes leaving the street, more competition, more products, more selection will always advance things the fastest and there may be a reason to spring for one vs the other but no need to completely remove them from the market, like a gas vs diesal truck
For a dude who's so moved on from supersports he sure does feel the need to explain himself a bunch, almost like he's still trying to convince himself.
Didn't even watch the video. 600cc is the only class I'll need
600 are the best class 😊
I learned that street bike and track bike are entirely different animals. I tried to make a dual purpose bike, but as the build went on, I was riding it less and soon it was collecting dust.
Arguably, DOHC inline fours were ALWAYS overkill for the streets, in every displacement, and including a lot of iconic bikes from the Big Four. Twins and singles for the streets, as Harley-Davidson, Triumph and others had long tried to do. The bikes coming out these days, including the Aprilia shown here, are spiritual successors to those twins of old.
I need a 600 because my mom would kill me if I got a 1000
One thing matter too, here in europe, sooooo much radar and stuff to moderate speed, i m 100% following. Rather get an excellent road bike not too powerfull, that i can enjoy, than beeing frustrated on a 1000 RSV4 with hurting back and not even beeing able to leave first gear when having fun...
Tuono is perfect for that and my bro went with RS cuz he still like racy position more. But honestly the 800 brutale Rosso is lurking at me!
Once i started doing trackdays, i realized that supersports have no place on the streets.. UNTIL i rode my GSXR 250 1990. its so much fun on the streets. 4 cylinder 45 Hp 17000 rpm.
I don’t understand why we can’t have 600cc engines in a naked bike set up? Why could you not have an R6 or CBR600RR engine in a naked bike? Best of both worlds. Make it happen
Yammie, come ride my BMW XR1000 in Tennessee. Hit me up.
I ride a 22 Tuono 660 factory, and it’s a great beginner bike and a comfortable ride. The highway is not so fun because of the wind, ok it’s fun on the highway, too, without getting into too much trouble, but it’s a city bike with enough power to have some fun.
all i need is either a cbr 650 or rs 660 or a street triple i love these...!
You don't make sense. We don't NEED motorcycles at all. We WANT them, in every type and size, LOL...
I agree
Yammie : we have moved on from 600
Also yammie : I love Triumph Daytona
daytona isn't a classic 600cc inline-4 tho, it's a 675cc triple, much more like a twin in character
@@AntaresSQ01wouldn't yammie like something like a panigale v2 for an upgrade from the Daytona because of it's similar powerband too ?
@@rishirajsaikia1323 Probably? Never ridden it before.
I ride mine exclusively on track and race it lol
what's NEED got to do with anything??
Small in line 4 need to always be around. The only reason anyone rides those V-twin turds is manufacturers saw production cost rise then force feed that bs to the population. Anyone who rides a 660 then rides any 600cc from the big four, they will say the same thing. Those cheap v twins are good learners and track toys, that’s it.
600 cc is way more relevant than liter bikes. If you're talking about usable power on the streets.
I currently have a little Z400, but I had the FZ07 in 2014 and put 21,000 kms in a year and a half. I've also had the KLX250SM after that, a 1977 TS185 2 stroke before that, a little 49cc Honda Dio scooter, and am actually adding a Royal Enfield 350 Meteor as a second bike in like a week.
600cc inline 4 might not be your cup of tea, but they are super relevant due to insurance prices and power ratio.
I agree full fairing bikes are uglier, but they also deflect wind more and blow the doors off 700cc twins.
They will walk away with such ease as soon as you're at 80kmph compared to a twin with 100ccs more.
I thought bikes where about wants not needs? Would it be a better idea to compare the r6 to an r7?
I’d like to see you do a segment that highlights the notion of different ways of riding a sports bike. It seems we only see them as quasi racers where we ride like headless chickens as the bike screams its tits off underneath us, progressively destroying each system as we push everything to the extreme. What about the idea of just riding at pace - constant - using nothing more than subtle pressure on the bars? No dramatic braking or accelerating. It’s great for covering a lot of ground in comfort not bathed in adrenaline, cortisol or dopamine - just a job well done.
Fortunately I ride an old 2003 Aprilia sl1000 falco with a performance chip and cans...All the power of a 750 but vtwin, hybrid riding position and cheap ass insurance, not to mention the bulletproof 60 degree rotax engine. Highly recommend! 😁
Gsxr 750 / Zx636 are the best middle weight bikes
Panigale v2 even better.
I and a lot of people here disagree with you. I think you may have lost your marbles there bud
Good video I just wish more channels included the prices in the comparisons!
we always will need 600 class
some people are still not willing to give up that inline 4 sound and character, me included.
Nothing other then a liter bike excited me since i started riding. The r6 doesn't need traction control with all that 40tq
Says Yammy while blasting an R1M going to walmart
600cc inline 4 makes very low torque at street speed and rpm.
An R1 is 999cc tho
What? Lol
@Yammie Noob im saying you usually daily high cc bikes is a bit contradicting 😂
Is no one gonna tell Tammie how ugly the Aprilia is? 😮
And how bad it sounds 🤢🤢
Id rather have it than not need it, than need it and not have it. I think the theme of not being able to use a 600 on the street is in fact wrong. I have a R6 that i ride daily in a small town with moderate speed limits and bang through all the gears and have plenty of fun. I know i'm not gonna fully use the RPM range or the riding postion maybe akward or not optimal. But thats the charm of owning something fast. They are never practical, theyre not supposed to be and thats klinda the point. Its the potential of the machine and if everyone starts buying these easier to ride, subdued machines, theyre just gonna mod them back to what the R6 is anyways because thats what excites people some people. These bikes are great for the market tha wants them and should be celebrated.
Agreed. The 600cc powerbands are not fun around town.
600s are very sport oriented and best suitable for the track, HOWEVER i had the same gen R6 and now i have cbr600rr and im riding them on the street and they are awesome. People are getting softer and softer with more complains about everything, just stfu and ride whatever you want.
For the street, you're right. Naked bikes with more upright seating positions are more comfortable. But head to a track and the supersport will blow it out of the water. Supersports will always have their place, papa yam.
Not just ergonomics, the 600cc i line 4 are not made to make much torque at low to mid rpm, so they are kind of weak for the street compared to the twin cylinders.
Not really, guys on supersports and superbikes get whooped by guys on slower bikes who actually know how to ride.happens all the time.
RUclipss ads are on point. I got an Touno 660 ad the moment Yammie hoped on and peeled out of the parking lot🤣
I have a Tuono 660 and it’s my first bike. I love everything about it, but I’ve only done about 1200 miles and I already want faster bike like a 600 super sport or liter bike. Maybe I’ll go for the RSV4. I don’t care what Yammy says. 4 cylinders will always be better than 2.
The only thing I don't like about the loss of supersports is the trickle down detuned engine options that usually make their way into FZ6/FZ1 type sport touring bikes that can still rip. Long live the inline 4 cylinder! :)
I have a buddy who has a R7 and he road my cbr600 and was blown away with the way it feels in comparison … if yku honestly think that 600s are out… your not riding it right
Yammie is speaking without his heart. Its like he knows a 600 is more fun but hes just trying so hard to be rational. This is a fun sport guys enjoy yourself 🤣
Well, to be fair. 600s never every were intended for street use. They were homologated race bikes. Even more than 1000cc sport bikes
Makes sense that it doesn't make any sense on road
Sounds like what Yam is saying is the panigale v2 is all we need
C'mon Yammie. You are so far off with this video, and you know it! Without 600cc super sports, what's the point? Are we really even squids anymore? Are we even having fun under 15k RPMS?
Love my ZZR600, will never let her go, but I will consider owning other configurations as well.
Miss mine tons. Solid bike
Terrible take imo, 600 is perfect for streets, 1Kcc…let’s be honest, there’s no need
Yammie, what’s the best motorcycle to get after I started on a 125cc grom?
Residential neighborhood 75 mph "gentle street pace". Nice.
Nice salesman pitch
Papa yams 🍠 your killing me. I love my 600rr. I’d never give it up.
Next week on yemi knew why you need a 600cc
I think yes! I have a Tuono 660, I added the quick shifter and the IMU for like $500. The only thing is the elephant in the room. It is a dog in second gear and between 5,000 and 6,000 RPM. I am hopping after the warranty is up I can update the mapping and lose the flat spot. Anyhoo I just keep it between 6,000 and 10,000 and it is fine.
Unfortunately the euro5 and BS6 standards have screwed up so many incredible engines with poor mapping, it's really a shame.
No, We don't Need Yammi Noob anymore. How many years of vast knowledge do you have? DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME!!!
69 years of knowledge and I've owned 420 motorcycles
400cc below is more for teaching and familiarizng yourself on how to ride a motorcycle. 600cc teaches you about fine movements on braking, throttle, lean angle, and shifting your weight. 1000cc+ are kind of funky, fun and all, some of them sounds iconic, but let's be honest. How much of the 200+hp would you need to go get groceries?
“Owning and riding a motorcycle is about the way it makes the rider feel. It’s about freedom and expression, etc”.
“I think we are moving on from fully faired 600s on the street, there’s no need for them etc ..”
What about all the riders that 600s appeal to ? Get it together Yam, breaking my heart. 😂✌🏼 proud zx6r pilot
yup, prefer usable low-end to mid-range torque than high-end horsepower
i was about to says parallel twin sound sucks until he start the 660
They do sound terrible tf do you mean
I love 600cc sports bikes, I don’t mind if a bike is slightly more street oriented i.e like 636, but the parallel twin just doesn’t do it for me.
Nah dude, I've ridden almost every engine configeration at this point and absolutely nothing beats the inline four scream at high rpm and then burble and complain as you slow down for a light. It's a goddamn near spiritual experience for me and I get it everyday I ride to work 😅
Yammie thinks he is only person buying motorcycles. Not everybody is the same size and has the preferences as you dude.
His word is gospel. He is the final word, when it comes to all things bikes.
@@Charlesbjtown I am infinite and vast
Still giving away?
The more supersports on the street, the cheaper it is to be a club racer, track day junkie. We need these cheap part out bikes
Furthering the evidence that my humble Benelli TNT600 is the perfect formula hehe... it's a 600cc i4 streetfighter that's making a little less power and geared such that 1st takes you to the 13000RPM redline at just 60mph. I can ride it on pretty much any back road and bang through a few gears easily- and have all the excitment doing it! The answer to make a 600 more streetable is really just lower gearing IMO.
How many videos are you going to make about this topic?! I am still going to watch it but we get it.
The Tuono just looks naked to me; I like a full set of fairings on my bike. Bring on the 600's.
Rs660, R7, cbr650r, ninja 650 have full fairing without being a 600cc supersport. So, what's your point ?
@@rishirajsaikia1323 I think the 600's are just about the best dang bike a man can get, bring them on - lets see more of them with all the features and tech and plenty of fairings.
Hey I'm happy with my 2016 street triple 675 r have a few mods more than stock hp tons of torque .plan to add new velocity stacks CD and Daytona cams.
The Tuono sounds incredible
I love my 650, it's the nice medium
If I was a young guy again I'd just go for a GSXR 750 rather than a 600. I don't think the price would be much more and in my opinion I'd have an all around much better bike if I was just using it on the street.
Yammies Dunkin’ on brokies now 😂 yams buy me a bike or I’m getting the 600
In Sweden it's almost impossible to legally ride a supersport on the street because insurance is mandatory and it's practically impossible to find an insurance company willing to insure one
Great country for ppl that are robots
Tell ur streamers to stop being racist Bruh
Boys...always looking for ppwer....might as well buy a plane.