but chis, didnt u say that epic/purple bundle when it came out was sooo not worth it? like $5? I got it on my Sundeok and she's farming gold like crazy, I cant even spend it all and getting great rss back from alliance mates that needs the gold more, thnx for the vid tho, always helpful with good content
I have 3x blue siege equipment in my every primary gatherer, need 2xpants, and 2x boots to anothers. And then every one had 4x gathering gear. And boy it makes it fast getherers, if you have full gather build and 8hr-24hrs gather token as well. Thats why i was sutprised that u had so bad gathering gear on your account.
Here are my recommandation for gathering pairing: (disclamer, i'll always put the lower rarity commander as primary as he cost less xp to level up) - Food: Gaius + ishida - Wood: Constance - Stone: Matilda + Cleo - Gold: Joan + Seondeok - Flex: Centurion + Sarka When you get older and you expertise cleo and seondeok, the best gold march is seondeok and cleo (or the other way around) as cleo now has 10% bonus rss AND 20% gold gathering speed. Joan can now join constance or matilda (or even replace centurion in the flex march if you focus this flex march on gold (you should)). Special mention to Constance + Matilda who bring 20% bonus rss together with pure skill (like cleo and seondeok but without gold gathering speed). It's the march i use for gold pit as a "young player" (also wood and stone are generaly less needed for some reason ^^) Now i'm gonna mention the trigger bundle "PIONEER OF HISTORY" that appears when you enter the dark age (city hall 16). This is one of the best bundle you can ever buy as the 5% rss bonus virtually make this bundle have infinite value (at least till you would be able to craft 5 set i guess). It's also very nice to mention that thanks to this set, you can get an extra gem per tier from every gem node! Indeed, in the gathering tree there is a 6% bonus rss that is totaly useless when gathering gems (unless you are gathering a T2 node). if you add the 5% form the set, every 10gems is now 11 And to be totally honest, every 10gem i actually 13 if you run the right march. Which would be any combinason of Constance, Matilda, Seondeok (expertised) (Cleopatra ? i'm a young player so i dont have her expertise and therefore dont know how she behave with gems)
Constance + Matil = pit pair (both gives %bonus upon completion - will go with this pair until I have SD expertised. Food : Gaius Ishida Wood: Centurion Stone: Sarka & Cleo Gold: Joan + Seondeok.
You are dead on. Also, what chisgule is forgetting that sometimes when you are in kvk, the difference is not only how fast but also if at all they made it back
I ran a test with Seondok/Constance vs Seondok/Joan, a timed test. This tests whether or not the 5% additional resources at the end outweigh the faster gathering speed. Result.... the 5% additional gave more!
Joan of Arc is a better combat commander, I’d use Constance/Seondeok, Gaius/Sarka, and Cleopatra VII/Centurion (F2P, obviously). Joan of Arc is the best support commander IMO.
Ive started rok as a ftp and made resource operations my first focus. Constance was the first maxed in gear and abilities , Constance is a wood specialist . Her extra resource bonus is good. Matilda is a stone specialist. Matilda is slightly better all rounder than Constance. Pair up Matilda with joan of arc secondary. Joan of arc is a generalist in resources and she has a large carry bonus. In the gold pit the extra resource bonus is dependent on the sum total harvested. So more gold grabbed. The more bonus gold at the end. Seon dok may be angold specialist but her value comes into play when shes maxed skilled. Matilda is much easier to max and will yield more over all resources over time. In kvk this comes into play when Bastion harvest quests are bieng offered. Dont neglect your harvester crews
THANKS!! I've always debated which is better, Joan giving 25% extra gathering speed or Constance giving 10% extra rss upon completion. I'll stick with Constance from now on in the gold pit:)
Well, technically the 10% from constqnce could be considered a multiplier for all your gathering speed, so for example if you have 100% gather speed bonus then the 10% will be a multiplier for both your original gather and for the 100% too. Now i would assume the way to think about it is. If yoi have 100% gathering speed then constance equals 20% gathering speed. If you have 200% gathering speed then constance equals 30%.. and so on. My math does not have to be 100% correct but the. idea is. In that sense there is nothing that can beat constance.
this is kinda funny cause im migrating so i have to use as much of my gold as i can, so i made a whole heap of blue gatherer equipment that i had laying around with bones
is youtube watching my phone?? just started upgrading my city hall from 15 to 16 and this is the first video recommended to me? Is is really a coincidence? 🤔
I believe that it makes sense that if you're migrating to a new kingdom.. you must get rid of your resources anyway.. then and only then .. might be reasonable to special talents such equipments ... Thoughts?
Why do you have legendary comms as your primary? Is there a difference? Why not have the lower tier gathering comms be your primary so you can save exp tomes?
If you don’t understand you be sleeping for 8 hours (like the human you are you should) so no matter how your look at it you be sleeping by the time your done gathering so you will not be getting any extra resources
@@shuandoyle7871 I'm talking about gathering in a pit overnight. My gatherers are nowhere near chisgule's level but they already have enough troops and load to gather for more than 10 hours. Assuming i wake up before gathering is complete i will have gathered 5 percent more resources in the same amount of time
Chisgule i am popping open 360 mill food, wood, 200 mill stone and for some reason small amount, 64 mill gold, you advise me to do so? i'll be migrating soon
This is going to depend a lot on what everyone else wants to do. If you’ve got the superior fighting force, fighting back is a reality. Even then though, you’ll have to do a major kingdom rebuilding period. Not an easy situation.
@@Chisgule within the kingdom, there won't be enough, I don't think, to win, if their alliance makes a move as a unit. I've been in 1963 since the beginning, but may be time to move on.
And my Sarka has 2piece blue equuipment, and couple of grey that give little more on her, in lvl6 noce i get about 30min faster gathering. Seounduk had 3x talented blue equipments and 2 epics. She is very fast gold gatherer
Yes, Matilda expertised gives extra resources. I use them both in different marches to gather gems. 20 gives+2 . 30 gems gives+3 those extra bonuses sum up in an awesome way...I farmed over 80k gems past kvk, no kidding.
@@dhgcrack3r111 yea if you don't pay to get bundles and stuff you will need to gather a lot to keep up with your costs like training and possibly you hospital bill during war
There is such a bad rss balance in the game. KVK just showed up 4 weeks after the last KVK and guess what? I think we are skipping not because no one has enough ress lol. It's sooooo hard to get enough gold rss
Everybody hates on farming but it's a necessary evil. The more efficiently you can farm the longer you can stay in the fight. Everybody's a gangsta till you run outta rss😁
All this info is nice, but for a first time player, it's way beyond me at this point. I mean i'm very active, all day active, and I'm excited about my level 20 Minamoto .... then I watch vids like this .... O_O
Matilda also has a 10% resource bonus, although I think it should be 15% since she's an epic and Seondeok's expertise should be 20% or 25% resource bonus as a legendary. Also, I think Lilith should rework Cleo's expertise to a resource bonus instead of getting extra resource packs. Maybe Chisgule could pass my suggestions to Lilith. 👉🏽👈🏽
No. The best is Seondeok, she gives 10% extra sources straight away and she gives boost for gold gathering, which is the most hard source to collect. She also gives nice stats to the siege units (30% health and defense) and nice nuke power (1400 skill damage from first skill and another 1k from her 4th skill), so if you get hit in a resources node in kvk, you can get at least some kills 😉
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CANNOT BELIEVE I HAD SUCH BETTER GEAR OPTIONS! LOLLLLLLLLL discord.gg/chisgule
can you do cannyon guide?
but chis, didnt u say that epic/purple bundle when it came out was sooo not worth it? like $5? I got it on my Sundeok and she's farming gold like crazy, I cant even spend it all and getting great rss back from alliance mates that needs the gold more, thnx for the vid tho, always helpful with good content
I made sure all my gathering commanders have at least two pieces of the harvester set.
It’s definitely worth it
I have 3x blue siege equipment in my every primary gatherer, need 2xpants, and 2x boots to anothers. And then every one had 4x gathering gear. And boy it makes it fast getherers, if you have full gather build and 8hr-24hrs gather token as well.
Thats why i was sutprised that u had so bad gathering gear on your account.
Here are my recommandation for gathering pairing:
(disclamer, i'll always put the lower rarity commander as primary as he cost less xp to level up)
- Food: Gaius + ishida
- Wood: Constance
- Stone: Matilda + Cleo
- Gold: Joan + Seondeok
- Flex: Centurion + Sarka
When you get older and you expertise cleo and seondeok, the best gold march is seondeok and cleo (or the other way around) as cleo now has 10% bonus rss AND 20% gold gathering speed. Joan can now join constance or matilda (or even replace centurion in the flex march if you focus this flex march on gold (you should)).
Special mention to Constance + Matilda who bring 20% bonus rss together with pure skill (like cleo and seondeok but without gold gathering speed). It's the march i use for gold pit as a "young player" (also wood and stone are generaly less needed for some reason ^^)
Now i'm gonna mention the trigger bundle "PIONEER OF HISTORY" that appears when you enter the dark age (city hall 16).
This is one of the best bundle you can ever buy as the 5% rss bonus virtually make this bundle have infinite value (at least till you would be able to craft 5 set i guess).
It's also very nice to mention that thanks to this set, you can get an extra gem per tier from every gem node!
Indeed, in the gathering tree there is a 6% bonus rss that is totaly useless when gathering gems (unless you are gathering a T2 node). if you add the 5% form the set, every 10gems is now 11
And to be totally honest, every 10gem i actually 13 if you run the right march. Which would be any combinason of Constance, Matilda, Seondeok (expertised) (Cleopatra ? i'm a young player so i dont have her expertise and therefore dont know how she behave with gems)
Constance + Matil = pit pair (both gives %bonus upon completion - will go with this pair until I have SD expertised.
Food : Gaius Ishida
Wood: Centurion
Stone: Sarka & Cleo
Gold: Joan + Seondeok.
And F2P before kvk 1?
I don’t care much about speed I care about rss given bonus
low rarity means?
The video deep down we all wanted and waited for is finally here
I upgraded all my gear like this before migration. The gold couldn't come with me so my gatherers saw a great little boost!
You are dead on. Also, what chisgule is forgetting that sometimes when you are in kvk, the difference is not only how fast but also if at all they made it back
I ran a test with Seondok/Constance vs Seondok/Joan, a timed test. This tests whether or not the 5% additional resources at the end outweigh the faster gathering speed. Result.... the 5% additional gave more!
Wow nice
Joan of Arc is a better combat commander, I’d use Constance/Seondeok, Gaius/Sarka, and Cleopatra VII/Centurion (F2P, obviously). Joan of Arc is the best support commander IMO.
@@strasbourgeois1 prime?
I am surprised that I used this technique earlier than you Chisgule. You confirmed to me that what I did was right. thanks
Thank you I’ve been trying to find something about armor, keep it up :)
Best intro from Chisgule in 2021!!
Third. I remember when i unlocked the blacksmith at level 16 there was an offer for the forest set. I really wish i had gotten it now. I WAS FIRST
I should share this video with my kingdom because that’s what most of them are good at
Imagine being able to afford the materials needed for these gathering equipment next to the war equipment lol , definetly not me as a f2p
Gathering equipments only use bones. It will not interfere in your war equipments as long as you don't use materials chests on them
@@mineloku u still need to craft the bones - while u craft 'em u cant craft others so it stops your war production
@@Jyllexx You got bones naturally from other things for instance crystal keys. Overtime you will get enough for some of these pieces
Ive started rok as a ftp and made resource operations my first focus. Constance was the first maxed in gear and abilities , Constance is a wood specialist . Her extra resource bonus is good.
Matilda is a stone specialist. Matilda is slightly better all rounder than Constance. Pair up Matilda with joan of arc secondary. Joan of arc is a generalist in resources and she has a large carry bonus. In the gold pit the extra resource bonus is dependent on the sum total harvested. So more gold grabbed. The more bonus gold at the end. Seon dok may be angold specialist but her value comes into play when shes maxed skilled. Matilda is much easier to max and will yield more over all resources over time. In kvk this comes into play when Bastion harvest quests are bieng offered. Dont neglect your harvester crews
I got inspired by your video and got 5 special talents in 3 min
THANKS!! I've always debated which is better, Joan giving 25% extra gathering speed or Constance giving 10% extra rss upon completion. I'll stick with Constance from now on in the gold pit:)
Great Video, thanks.
Constance Matilda also gives huge bonus gathering speed and is easier to level up and expertise
Omg just today morning(Asian time zone) was discussing about gathering and chis made a video lol . Thanks
i don't even have the blacksmith but I still watched this
I already found a gem just by watching your videos, thanks for the info and tips. God bless 😊
I don't really farm unless I have like free time and it's for an event. But when I do farm I always make the top 5😌
intro 10/10
Super valuable video brother.
Well, technically the 10% from constqnce could be considered a multiplier for all your gathering speed, so for example if you have 100% gather speed bonus then the 10% will be a multiplier for both your original gather and for the 100% too. Now i would assume the way to think about it is.
If yoi have 100% gathering speed then constance equals 20% gathering speed.
If you have 200% gathering speed then constance equals 30%.. and so on. My math does not have to be 100% correct but the. idea is.
In that sense there is nothing that can beat constance.
this is kinda funny cause im migrating so i have to use as much of my gold as i can, so i made a whole heap of blue gatherer equipment that i had laying around with bones
Good tip for 1075 players 👏
You mean all players?
Ah yes everyone got money to spend on the game smh
@@slothstudio5688 I think you misunderstood what I mean
@@shuandoyle7871 wasn't talking to u lol
@@slothstudio5688 ok
hey chisgule i just got richard I i’m a calvary player can i still use him?
Broooo, that drumroll had me dying 🤣😂💀
I'm still making the same mistakes, thanks for this video
is youtube watching my phone?? just started upgrading my city hall from 15 to 16 and this is the first video recommended to me? Is is really a coincidence? 🤔
I believe that it makes sense that if you're migrating to a new kingdom.. you must get rid of your resources anyway.. then and only then .. might be reasonable to special talents such equipments ... Thoughts?
I mean if you have the patterns it’s worth it since you get way more out of it
Yup .. totally agree 👍
2 blue items paying of in 16 days of nonstop gathering :)
Why do you have legendary comms as your primary? Is there a difference? Why not have the lower tier gathering comms be your primary so you can save exp tomes?
Chisgule ask Lilith to add a elite gathering Commander if possible , we all have 5 marches but we have 9 gathering commanders only 🙁😕😕
That is so true I just use a versatility commander as my 10th
@@Owen_157 I also do it ,but no point in doing that no skills to boost gathering speed 😂😂
I too found it very hard to special talent the gathering equipments
I got lucky and some of them special talented on their own
Damn. 75 needs to register in kvk ASAP 😂
Gathering speed does matter overnight. If you have 5% extra gathering speed then you will have gathered 5% more rss overnight
No it do not to gather a million resource can take at the very least (and I mean very least) 3 hours so you will not get extra resources
If you don’t understand you be sleeping for 8 hours (like the human you are you should) so no matter how your look at it you be sleeping by the time your done gathering so you will not be getting any extra resources
Also from it sounds like you think extra speed equals more resources it just mean extra speed
@@shuandoyle7871 I'm talking about gathering in a pit overnight. My gatherers are nowhere near chisgule's level but they already have enough troops and load to gather for more than 10 hours. Assuming i wake up before gathering is complete i will have gathered 5 percent more resources in the same amount of time
@@geraldbiersteker190 should have stated that
"this is what a really good garthering set looks like"
me: that looks like it costs $1000
I have the set, in fact all i need is to special talent the shoes
Haha. This is so me, I have one set and that's the one that came with that bundle when gear was upgraded.
Does 8H gathering speed 50% boost works at all?? Because gathering time did not decrease using that boost.
I've been using Cleo Seondok at the pit, I didn't think about the additional rss, I think I'll switch thx
Chisgule i am popping open 360 mill food, wood, 200 mill stone and for some reason small amount, 64 mill gold, you advise me to do so? i'll be migrating soon
What would you do? Leaders are trying to 0 and kick all " non asian " from kd 1963. Would you run, or Ally up and fight?
This is going to depend a lot on what everyone else wants to do. If you’ve got the superior fighting force, fighting back is a reality. Even then though, you’ll have to do a major kingdom rebuilding period. Not an easy situation.
@@Chisgule within the kingdom, there won't be enough, I don't think, to win, if their alliance makes a move as a unit. I've been in 1963 since the beginning, but may be time to move on.
And my Sarka has 2piece blue equuipment, and couple of grey that give little more on her, in lvl6 noce i get about 30min faster gathering. Seounduk had 3x talented blue equipments and 2 epics. She is very fast gold gatherer
Do you have an videos for very low power players going in kvk or war?
Where's Matilda? She gives 10% bonus too she should be your second gathering main.
Chisgul definitely not a good gatherer 😂
Doesn't Matilda also give you extra resources like Constance with a boost?
Yes, Matilda expertised gives extra resources. I use them both in different marches to gather gems. 20 gives+2 . 30 gems gives+3 those extra bonuses sum up in an awesome way...I farmed over 80k gems past kvk, no kidding.
gathering is only for us the weaklings haha
Non- pay to win I’m guessing? Just started
@@dhgcrack3r111 yea if you don't pay to get bundles and stuff you will need to gather a lot to keep up with your costs like training and possibly you hospital bill during war
@@Georgia-tz3ux lvl 16 today (finally) it’s only gathering now lol
Hello there
Does the secondary commanders gear still work
Nope
The game tells you it don’t
@@shuandoyle7871 it does I didn’t see that
@@mandotheory Yeah when you send out troops there a question mark somewhere it tells you that
@@shuandoyle7871 ty now I can remove some of my gear from secondary’s
Now you can refine all you gathering patterns
There is such a bad rss balance in the game. KVK just showed up 4 weeks after the last KVK and guess what? I think we are skipping not because no one has enough ress lol. It's sooooo hard to get enough gold rss
The Epic piece needs 15 legendary materials. Gg
Should've made this 2 months later
Probably should have done boots 3x and then 3x breeches instead of 1 set by 1 set
Just make it when you can gathering boost doesn’t hurt
What do we need gold for?
For stuff
T5, equipment and stuff.
That gear at the start tho 😬
Everybody hates on farming but it's a necessary evil. The more efficiently you can farm the longer you can stay in the fight. Everybody's a gangsta till you run outta rss😁
I collect those rss items and farm gems instead of rss because i don't want to wake up in a burning city.
Lol I use the same set the forest set is great
I remember selling them in alliance shop ...
All this info is nice, but for a first time player, it's way beyond me at this point. I mean i'm very active, all day active, and I'm excited about my level 20 Minamoto .... then I watch vids like this .... O_O
Why would you want a siege garrison
I prefer seondeok/Matilda for pit
No im first
So the Epic Gathering Boots are a waste of existence
Nothing wrong with being a noob…. Never mind I watched the first 10 seconds and you have no gathering gear……
All hail the farmers 💪😂
🤔🤪Interesting
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Matilda also has a 10% resource bonus, although I think it should be 15% since she's an epic and Seondeok's expertise should be 20% or 25% resource bonus as a legendary. Also, I think Lilith should rework Cleo's expertise to a resource bonus instead of getting extra resource packs.
Maybe Chisgule could pass my suggestions to Lilith. 👉🏽👈🏽
its not wood it's ebony
Can’t hear
First to like and comment any give away? Hahahhaa
Lol, old stuff for f2p 🤙🤙🤙🤙
Seondeok & matilda 🤭
Ok weeee fuckingggggget it 60 leather
Have Cleo use the best gear she’s the best gathering commander in the game
No. The best is Seondeok, she gives 10% extra sources straight away and she gives boost for gold gathering, which is the most hard source to collect. She also gives nice stats to the siege units (30% health and defense) and nice nuke power (1400 skill damage from first skill and another 1k from her 4th skill), so if you get hit in a resources node in kvk, you can get at least some kills 😉
@@87olvi why’s everyone saying KvK I don’t know what it is and also ty
Fist hahaha,30s
Any f2p here ?
Who esle thought he had the best !?🤣😭😂😂
9 hi
I'm the 17th comment
LOL
ITS ALL CAP LOOOOL CHISGULE, STOP CAPPING YOU ALWAYS HAD THE GEAR, RIGHT? RIGHTTTTT? I FINNALY BEAT YOU AT SMT AHAHAHAHAAAA
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