Just a correction, sensei: The protector scoring system (PSS) is set to require a certain amount of force to score based on the following: Gender, Weight Class, Age. Just a touch doesn't score. The highest damage required to score is in the men's +87 kg category (heavyweight). You should look around for a local dojang that has the Daedo PSS (the one used in Olympic competition) and check it out in training as well as a few rounds. The body protector and helmet detect contact and pressure, each person wears a sock that has magnets in it so the only way to score with a kick is to hit with the ankle bone down with the required amount of pressure. Punches are scored manually by referees (2 out of 3 have to agree it was hard enough to warrant a point) and the +2 for spins is also manually added by corner referees. The center referee calls penalties (+1 point for the other person). Scoring on a stationary person vs one who is moving away from the strike or moving with the strike can make a big difference in scoring chances. I know you like to shit on Olympic TKD in a partially serious partially for fun way but you should check out some professional equipment and national level competitors some time. You can probably find a high level heavyweight in your area. If you can't find a Daedo set up the only other one used officially by World Taekwondo is called the KPNP PSS. Also if you ever want to check out Kukkiwon TKD applied outside of the Olympic rule set look up someone like Kwon Kicker Micah Brock or Master Lee Dong Hee of Kangjin TKD. It's all the same skills but with more open rules. This is the style that seems more popular with adults in Korea and it's definitely catching on here in North America too.
Nah, sorry, if they used those rules it's stupid as shit. Linus could have kicked the head much stronger, he held back his kick not to injure the kid, come on. Just count it properly.
For clarity, they both trained 15+ years ago so they haven't trained for years. They only had like a week of prep leading up to this. If you happened to skip past it, when Linus caught Dennis' kick, the way Dennis went down on Linus' leg aggravated an old knee injury Linus has had for years. He could hardly bend his knee for days later due to it potentially buckling. Both of them powered through. TKD Tech Champs! 😆 I'm looking forward to the rematch they've agreed to - better training, better prep, better match. I wonder if this will kick off a TDK Tech Tournament for all techies on RUclips. 🤔That would be fun - especially if it went full MMA. Everyone knows you gotta go full MMA!
Not personally a fan of this sort of point fighting, but mad respect to them for even remotely seriously partaking in any real form of combat sport. Most people don't even have the stones for that.
As a Ex-TKD instructor I always found the scoring arbitrary at this skill level. The rules used to be to score a strike it had to land with enough force to basically move you or affect your body position. Many low level competitors don't hit with enough force to do that so it was kinda up to the ref. Unless you are taught how to bully in the clinch and strike off the break you often got guys with low guards standing in punching range not knowing what to do next (rarely is a punch deemed strong enough to score). Also the tendacy to put your kicking foot down in front of you to chase the retreating opponent causes a lot of this awkward punching range stalemate. Eventually you learn how to angle off or punch to clinch and strike off the break. I have no clue how or why they came up with this rule set. I think they are talking a rematch with more kickboxing style rules.
My favorite part about this is that they agreed to do a rematch where they both seriously train for a few months rather than two weeks. Glad to see two of my passions colliding!
I came in here not knowing what to expect, but left with more appreciation for those guys. These videos usually make me cringe as a mma guy but we all gotta start somewhere right! These guys have a great attitude and I think tkd is a great place to start martial arts along with karate. Thank you sensei for another great video.
@@basedbane787 exactly! But it does depend on the person. If you truly have love for martial arts tkd is a great gateway for the more advanced arts. But if you just wanna do something cause you saw it in a Bruce lee movie tkd is also great for you!
@@loganstabb2278 yea but it becomes a problem when people learn some 540 kick tricking stuff an think they can disarm gunmen or knives or fight three people at once ext
Very informative 👏 Many people have misconceptions on what Taekwondo is because of the popular Olympic Style (Foot Fencing) and the ATA Style (American Mcdojos).
they talked about this video in their wan show vlog thing they do (kind of a behind the scenes chat about the various videos they made throughout the week) and a lot of the discussion was regarding the rules and how they were 'followed' or not, and gaming the system, rather than fighting 'properly'. i think they were as confused as you regarding the calls/points awarded, and both kinda trying to figure out what was going to work or not. he also mentioned that he wants to do it again. you should hit him up and secretly train linus, considering dennis had a glory kickboxer helping him.
the sensors are supposed to only score if the kicks are of a certain force level but they are so low it doesn't really matter unless you're fighting in the wrong weight class. I saw this thing called Armor20:20 that looked pretty cool where instead of points you get health bars. you should buy some and test them!
In WT it isn't just a touch, it needs to have some power behind it, befor the sensors corner judges often had to go by sound, with the sensors though they are calibrated to weight and gender category.
Love it! I was just as confused and weirdly impressed as Sensi Seth when I watched the original. Linus is his boss. And Linus apparently helps with his kids class who does the same martial art he did as a kid (and has a black belt in) but doesn't actually train besides that. Also they're in Canada. So close enough to California (I'm totally kidding).
LOL Sensei Seth just wants to see people getting kicked in the head. I have to laugh even harder because typing the above made me remember the first Sensei Seth video I saw had me rolling laughing about what the Martial Arts kicked lately. (Taekwondo "Mostly kids")
not all gear comes with sensors and combat by the old rules the point is only awarded for an actual hit you can hear, or knocks back your oponent... yet idk which rule set they were going by but the gear didnt seemed electronic, but maeby iam wrong
Yeah I saw Linus doing a turning side-kick to a monitor one time and I thought wow the technique is very clean and educated, dude must have done some TKD. So that makes sense, hey. (Bet you didn't see that pun coming)
If you watch linus in one of his podcasts after the fight, they agreed to no scoring on the head. That's why his hands were down the whole time. He was too tired to hold them up and linus couldn't hit him in the head to remind him
Your allowed to punch to the head. At least in a school setting. the Olympics on the other hand... nope. So they might just be following more of a kick boxing like kinda rule. Where I train, we punch to the head and body, and kick to the head, body and inner thigh. We can take down people too. It would be nice if that were more what they showed, but because of the Olympics and the rules they set, that's what's popular.
I think it's reasonably that good for who it is. I'd be surprised if they do sparring often, so they are throwing like they're fighting a bag or pads, but thats just how it is.
I have seen 13 year old girls in K1 fights where they weren't allowed to punch to the head too. Let's just say the girls showed more aggression. And had better cardio.
Bro if they were doing actual judo throws on each other which thankfully they don't know how to perform, one of them would be in hospital from this or worse. You don't do real grappling on rock solid ground not unless you are out to hurt someone or worse.
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Just a correction, sensei: The protector scoring system (PSS) is set to require a certain amount of force to score based on the following: Gender, Weight Class, Age. Just a touch doesn't score. The highest damage required to score is in the men's +87 kg category (heavyweight).
You should look around for a local dojang that has the Daedo PSS (the one used in Olympic competition) and check it out in training as well as a few rounds. The body protector and helmet detect contact and pressure, each person wears a sock that has magnets in it so the only way to score with a kick is to hit with the ankle bone down with the required amount of pressure. Punches are scored manually by referees (2 out of 3 have to agree it was hard enough to warrant a point) and the +2 for spins is also manually added by corner referees. The center referee calls penalties (+1 point for the other person).
Scoring on a stationary person vs one who is moving away from the strike or moving with the strike can make a big difference in scoring chances.
I know you like to shit on Olympic TKD in a partially serious partially for fun way but you should check out some professional equipment and national level competitors some time. You can probably find a high level heavyweight in your area. If you can't find a Daedo set up the only other one used officially by World Taekwondo is called the KPNP PSS.
Also if you ever want to check out Kukkiwon TKD applied outside of the Olympic rule set look up someone like Kwon Kicker Micah Brock or Master Lee Dong Hee of Kangjin TKD. It's all the same skills but with more open rules. This is the style that seems more popular with adults in Korea and it's definitely catching on here in North America too.
Fair!! Thanks for the clarification 🙏
damn who read that
Triggered much bruh
Nah, sorry, if they used those rules it's stupid as shit. Linus could have kicked the head much stronger, he held back his kick not to injure the kid, come on. Just count it properly.
Verry interesting
Linus absolutely won that...
Linus is a lot better than I expected
For clarity, they both trained 15+ years ago so they haven't trained for years. They only had like a week of prep leading up to this. If you happened to skip past it, when Linus caught Dennis' kick, the way Dennis went down on Linus' leg aggravated an old knee injury Linus has had for years. He could hardly bend his knee for days later due to it potentially buckling. Both of them powered through. TKD Tech Champs! 😆
I'm looking forward to the rematch they've agreed to - better training, better prep, better match. I wonder if this will kick off a TDK Tech Tournament for all techies on RUclips. 🤔That would be fun - especially if it went full MMA. Everyone knows you gotta go full MMA!
Not personally a fan of this sort of point fighting, but mad respect to them for even remotely seriously partaking in any real form of combat sport. Most people don't even have the stones for that.
Honestly! And they did way better than expected tbh
@@dorito7480 for sure
As a Ex-TKD instructor I always found the scoring arbitrary at this skill level. The rules used to be to score a strike it had to land with enough force to basically move you or affect your body position. Many low level competitors don't hit with enough force to do that so it was kinda up to the ref. Unless you are taught how to bully in the clinch and strike off the break you often got guys with low guards standing in punching range not knowing what to do next (rarely is a punch deemed strong enough to score). Also the tendacy to put your kicking foot down in front of you to chase the retreating opponent causes a lot of this awkward punching range stalemate. Eventually you learn how to angle off or punch to clinch and strike off the break. I have no clue how or why they came up with this rule set. I think they are talking a rematch with more kickboxing style rules.
My favorite part about this is that they agreed to do a rematch where they both seriously train for a few months rather than two weeks. Glad to see two of my passions colliding!
I came in here not knowing what to expect, but left with more appreciation for those guys. These videos usually make me cringe as a mma guy but we all gotta start somewhere right! These guys have a great attitude and I think tkd is a great place to start martial arts along with karate. Thank you sensei for another great video.
if you tkd as a kid an something else as an adult it's great but I feel like most ppl get a kids black belt at 7 an think they're set for life
@@basedbane787 exactly! But it does depend on the person. If you truly have love for martial arts tkd is a great gateway for the more advanced arts. But if you just wanna do something cause you saw it in a Bruce lee movie tkd is also great for you!
@@loganstabb2278 yea but it becomes a problem when people learn some 540 kick tricking stuff an think they can disarm gunmen or knives or fight three people at once ext
@@basedbane787 well yes obviously I’m talking about people with a sound mind who won’t randomly start tornado kicking people at the bar ;)
@@loganstabb2278 I mean people who have over confidence
My two favorite worlds combine! So glad you did this.
This was a lot more enjoyable to watch than those "influencer" boxing events
I never realized that the key to victory in a fight was simply having a better understanding of Android specs.
(They are in Canada)
Not California, but Canada :D
So awesome to see Sensie Seth react to the LTT fight xD!
Oh, the California of North America lol
I love this reaction video. I watched the video on linustechtips the other day. It's a great cross over between channels I follow
Fantastic video Sensei Seth. Keep up the good work 👍
5:00 'Taiwanese Taekwondo Tornado' Triple T has entered the building!
Very informative 👏
Many people have misconceptions on what Taekwondo is because of the popular Olympic Style (Foot Fencing) and the ATA Style (American Mcdojos).
they talked about this video in their wan show vlog thing they do (kind of a behind the scenes chat about the various videos they made throughout the week) and a lot of the discussion was regarding the rules and how they were 'followed' or not, and gaming the system, rather than fighting 'properly'. i think they were as confused as you regarding the calls/points awarded, and both kinda trying to figure out what was going to work or not. he also mentioned that he wants to do it again. you should hit him up and secretly train linus, considering dennis had a glory kickboxer helping him.
Seth. California was a good guess. They're in Canada lol. "Probably California" spoken so true lol.... my man!
the points not awarded are so screwy
Hopefully this experience encouraged them to continue training. I think they could both be quite good if they put alot time in.
Linus is more into Badminton. So he probably won't.
the sensors are supposed to only score if the kicks are of a certain force level but they are so low it doesn't really matter unless you're fighting in the wrong weight class. I saw this thing called Armor20:20 that looked pretty cool where instead of points you get health bars. you should buy some and test them!
Unexpected crossover but you did a great job with what you had to work with 😂
In WT it isn't just a touch, it needs to have some power behind it, befor the sensors corner judges often had to go by sound, with the sensors though they are calibrated to weight and gender category.
Fyi, they're in Vancouver Canada, not Cali. Great reaction. Make sure to cover the rematch when it happens!
5:00 "I'll screw you harder than a screwdriver" :/
Love it! I was just as confused and weirdly impressed as Sensi Seth when I watched the original.
Linus is his boss. And Linus apparently helps with his kids class who does the same martial art he did as a kid (and has a black belt in) but doesn't actually train besides that.
Also they're in Canada. So close enough to California (I'm totally kidding).
Can't help but think that this style of competition could actually make you really vulnerable a there is no incentive to protect your head...
Seth has a comedian 100%
Hmm, ltt & and Seth, the crossover we didnt know we needed.
Yay! Korean Karate! 🥋
They are in Canada. It's like California here, except without the weather, economy or people.
At least our high school graduates are literate
They are already talking about doing a rematch, hopefully they reach out to do some collaborations.
Some sensei Seth training might help them up their game for the rematch.
Today I learned I might be a Black belt.
This fight looked as good as the one between Seth and Wonder Bread;0
LOL Sensei Seth just wants to see people getting kicked in the head.
I have to laugh even harder because typing the above made me remember the first Sensei Seth video I saw had me rolling laughing about what the Martial Arts kicked lately. (Taekwondo "Mostly kids")
Now I wanna see Seth fight jerma.
"Ehh there probably in California that blue gun is illegal in California" fastest way to get a like from a Texan.
not all gear comes with sensors and combat by the old rules the point is only awarded for an actual hit you can hear, or knocks back your oponent... yet idk which rule set they were going by but the gear didnt seemed electronic, but maeby iam wrong
Reaction suggest: danny Mullen, fake black belt video, you might like his humor
I'd like to see a reaction to micheal reeves some day!
Never Knew Linus Tech Tips knew Martial Arts, Oh Surprises-Surprises.
never knew he can drop bodies like he drops his tech
Apparently they will have a rematch. You should coach one of them
Yeah I saw Linus doing a turning side-kick to a monitor one time and I thought wow the technique is very clean and educated, dude must have done some TKD. So that makes sense, hey. (Bet you didn't see that pun coming)
yes
If you watch linus in one of his podcasts after the fight, they agreed to no scoring on the head. That's why his hands were down the whole time. He was too tired to hold them up and linus couldn't hit him in the head to remind him
Seth would react to John wick cuz u know, cool
@Sensei Seth, they are in Canada...
I had an idea, hear me out... High kwon do!
Dang, those refs were terrible. They only really called points for, as you said, literal sumo wrestling. IN A TAEKWONDO MATCH.
Your allowed to punch to the head. At least in a school setting. the Olympics on the other hand... nope. So they might just be following more of a kick boxing like kinda rule.
Where I train, we punch to the head and body, and kick to the head, body and inner thigh. We can take down people too. It would be nice if that were more what they showed, but because of the Olympics and the rules they set, that's what's popular.
I think it's reasonably that good for who it is. I'd be surprised if they do sparring often, so they are throwing like they're fighting a bag or pads, but thats just how it is.
Neither of them have done any sparring in many years. I think they both did TKD as teenagers. So probably not much sparring back then even.
I didn't get why Dennis kept scoring 2 points for getting taken down.
I think it would be cool if you checked put the other side of tkd. Itf. Quite a bit cooler and more grounded imo.
The point system is so confusing
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I'm a tech dude and an amateur MMA fighter.
I should've been here
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if I practice less I think I could be good as these guys
Hate to say it but this wasn’t terrible and these dudes actually have potential especially Linus! I was genuinely impressed
That's real taekwondo
Takedowns are not allowed in regular Taekwondo sparring
I'm confused about how the points work.
Sensei Seth you should react to your own videos
I have seen 13 year old girls in K1 fights where they weren't allowed to punch to the head too. Let's just say the girls showed more aggression. And had better cardio.
Bro if they were doing actual judo throws on each other which thankfully they don't know how to perform, one of them would be in hospital from this or worse. You don't do real grappling on rock solid ground not unless you are out to hurt someone or worse.
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Edit: Coercing not coursing... Sorry😢
Dennis is 30, 20 years ago he was 10. so he doesnt have a black belt
I've been to that taekwondo gym before, the guy who runs it is a joke back in South Korea...
Are you saying he's just bad, or is he actually famously bad?
Techwondo
Linus vs mark zuckerberg
Still waiting for Musk vs Putin
Why does that asian guy sound like Jerry Lewis acting?
This was soo bad , watching like 5 years old kids fighting 😂
Oh my goodness, the tkd here was oddly cringe to me here..
Really loved the commentary though lol
Idk why i just wanted to say i do kyokushin its just a random fact about me
I recently started goju ryu alongside my usual mma, it has similar rules to kyokushin I think. Lots of fun!
Goju is kyokushin's dad style but they compete much much less generally speaking
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Someone didn't take their pills again.