Jordan Peterson: Women always reject these men
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@@myotherusername9224 😂😂
HAHAHA true
Yeaaah same and I just gotta let down by someone recently too even after they said yes to a date lmao but I’d like to believe maybe this is a sign pointing us in the right direction...
hahh
Man, it's so delightful to see a professor that is actually passionate about his job
Yes, well said. His passion, I believe, results from him realizing that he's still learning himself. He never gets to a point where he feels his current understanding represents reality with 100% accuracy. Some professors (and people in general) think they already learned all they need to know which leads to dogmatism which then leads to Animus possession.
Too passionate than necessary
@@tajamalanwar935 how the fuck can someone be too passionate? 🤣🤣
@@tajamalanwar935 ???
X professor
When I was married, at the beginning, my wife used to treat me like I’m some kind of a pagan god. She used to burn things for me……breakfast, lunch, dinner. I don’t think she was trying to please me…
Wtf hahah.
Stay away from insane people, and I mean men/women altogether.
Wahahahaha.same here. Had to leave her when it progressed to trying to burn down the house.
Behave, 😂maybe she wanted you to cook🙂
Sounds like you grew up in a home with a dad that belittled your mom. No disrespect either way
Lololol
" Women always reject these men". I expected my photo to show up on the whiteboard.
Funny
😂
I feel you, that tittle is talking to me men.
Like I would open the video and dr. Peterson would be pointing and looking directly at the camera.
🤣🤣
Mine too
If I was a women, i would also reject a crocodile with a clock in its stomach chasing me.
Gay
😂😂
Thank you.
@@bentoboxofire7404 whooooosh
As a woman I can promise you I have indeed done that on multiple occasions.
Hit home when Peterson started talking about being betrayed by an intimate partner. Immediately questioned if the past was real, and what is real in the present. I questioned my whole past, present, and future. It's a terrible feeling that cannot be described. I'm just glad that I got over it.
@Blan_K don’t be a victim of the past. work on yourself and building character. see at as a lesson.
@Blan_K I'm looking for this answer, too. I'm currently in a similar situation to what you describe. Peterson says in this video that redemption comes when we understand the moral of our life's story. When we find out the truth, and why things happened the way they did.
But what if it is impossible to find out what happened? What if you cannot get the answers, to learn what your mistakes were? The truth is easily concealed, or distorted, or withdrawn. What happens then?
My guess as of right now is that you (1) assume what the truth may have been, and base your restructuring of your world upon this assumption. This makes me wonder what kind of person you must become to be capable of such determination and self-deception. The other option, of course, would be to (2) try to ignore the gaping holes in your knowledge of the past. With this, however, you learn nothing, so redemption may never come.
This is a serious and complicated question, and I am afraid I do not have the capacity to answer it.
@Blan_K I have a problem with not caring. To me, everything in life is a system of inputs and outputs. If you can model the problem, you can predict the outcome with good certainty. But if you cannot model the problem, or if suddenly the model collapses, you are lost. There is no more certainty.
I have to care, because if I don't, I can't piece together the truths in my life.
If I'm left wondering for the rest of my life "Why did she leave?" and "Did she leave me for somebody better?", then I can't model the past anymore. Suddenly what I thought was truth is not, and I have no way of grasping it.
The fact I don't know why she left also means I'll never learn from it. We were supposed to help each other grow and work on each other, but without the partner's insight, you are doomed.
I thought we were working on making ourselves happy. I was the happiest I'd ever been, because I thought I had her by my side. We helped each other through so much -- When I met her, she was suicidal, she cut herself, she had anxiety, didn't want to meet people. Now, she shines so brightly it's incredible. She wears dresses, she is finally proud of who she is.
I was there through all of that. She was my pride and joy, but apparently I was not hers. And it hurts.
It hurts knowing I bet everything I had on her, I helped and saw her grow, and in just one day I lost this bet, and nothing makes sense anymore.
@Blan_K Thank you for the kind words, brother. With time, I hope I can accept the hole in my knowledge -- though so far in life, most of these holes were simple enough to patch up, as learning is one of my greatest virtues. This will be a new challenge, an opportunity for new growth.
I don't fear thinking I wasn't good enough, but I know I wasn't putting in 100%. At the end, because of what had been happening in my professional life and education, I was stressed, and couldn't deliver more than say 50%, but I know that I was there for her with all my available capacity. I do not blame myself, and I do not blame her, for not always being there for me when I needed her.
I do, however, regret the knowledge that from now and until forever, my mind will be plagued with the idea that things could have gone so well. The life I expected to live is now gone, and my reaction to THAT is what I truly fear.
Perhaps my growth was stumped in this relationship, because I wanted to see her grow. Perhaps I had become too passive in my own development. Whatever it is that disenchanted her, I cannot say. But this talk with you has given me resolve: This is but a stepping stone to my growth.
Godspeed man. If you ever wish to speak, know that my heart and mind are open.
@ are you perhaps mildly autistic ? I could be a mile off but I heard AS is a different way of perceiving the world. More logical / formula like.
I realized that when you decide you don't care what women want, talking to them is easy. Funny thing is they are more receptive because they know.
No cap
Exactly!
Really? Cause I tried and it really hasn't been working for me
@@goncalobaia1574 lol , there is your problem right there ... why are you trying ? Just chill and go with the flow and don’t force anything.
@@icyrenaulto1944 beware turning to stone. If you pretend you don't care a bit too much, that's what happens to you. You become expressionless.
Me: clicks a video with the title of Jordan Peterson explaining rejection of men
Me after 12 minutes: I must worship the Egyptian eye
@@AryanSingh-fg3oc u
The channel is click baiting
Hahahaha. He does beat around the bush a lot.
Aryan Singh hhahaha ... we need more men like you in the society who can shout the truth ..👏👏👏
@@AryanSingh-fg3oc damn I haven't seen this much bullshit in a comment in a long time.
I've found some people will not "like" you out of resentment or jealousy. I used to never be a classist. But, then, when I started doing very well, I found I could only talk about my life around people who were doing equally well. It was quite disappointing to learn this. I've always had the capacity to be happy for others success, regardless of where I was at. I would still be happy for others, if anything, to just learn from their stories, so I could try to pattern my choices after theirs. It was disheartening to learn that others I cared about had difficulty being happy for me. And I could not be myself to protect their egos.
I too have found this out
Sounds to me like youre trying to protect your own ego
@@joey4482 Looks to me like you have difficulty reading.
In that case, emotional detachment is a blessing.
@@KingofNewYorkkk Hell yes
You make sacrifices in the present so the future is better.
And you learn from your past too so that the future is better.
@@TheRightWay11 what about sacrificing the past and the future to get as close to the present moment as possible?
@@addictedtonothing23 that would be called a drug addiction
@@lewislister7720
i think you need to be in touch with the present moment. Otherwise you see your life through the eyes of the past. Emotions are the endproduct of past experiences and when you thinking the same thoughts, performing the same actions, living by the same emotions then you are connected to your familiar emotions , means your recreating the same life .
@@alphastateofmind4336 LMAO fuck lol
"The purpose of memory is to prepare you for the future".
I had never questioned why we have memories before, they just sort of happened. This line both posed the question and provided the answer in one. Now I understand the essence of why we have memories and what learning is about.
Im pretty sure you have known the purpose of learning before, but ok
@@S1mcard May be he just realized the depth of unconscious learning. Our mind stores a lot of information and sometimes one doesn't question why that memory keeps repeating. It's different than just saying "I'm practicing/learning this skill so tomorrow I can be better at it".
if memories shape who you are all of you controlled by bertholdt.
he is brilliant. that part blew my mind cus i never would have come to that conclusion. amazing
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“So you’re healed, when you get to the point where you’ve grasped the bloody moral of the story.” This is why I keep a Google Keep note to write down “lessons” of frustrating events that happen in life. Those reflections of what you did (even if the events that occurred weren’t ultimately your entire fault) bring immediate relief to a mind that is rattled by an upsetting situation that happened.
Do you really need to write it down? Just go over the chain of events and signs that were there and take stock of it. It'll come back to you later in a similar situation and you can use it as a basis for what to expect.
It must be insanely difficult to be jordan peterson. You know he's lived through every type of trauma he touches on and he took the time to make the chaos intelligible enough to teach it. Respect
He's obsessed, I love it!
His story is one of redemption
That's also why you should take his vision of the world with a grain of salt: there's truth in it but it's also the representation of life filtered through his own experiences and obsessions. And unfortunately sometimes it is a bit overlysimplified or at least one sided
@@tommyv2317 example?
@@caralho5237 well at the beginning I was seduced by his charming personality and bought his book. Then I started noticing that his way of arguing doesn't leave much room for any debate, he seems to deliver truths rather than exposing a point of view, and you can tell it from his body language, the words he chooses, the style etc. He's kind of... Aggressive in exposing his theories and he's relying a lot on his charisma and his brilliant intellect but often the outcome of his reasoning sounded a bit.. forced to me ..like the famous lobster example: that looked to me like a random fact in the animal kingdom was used to justify a theory on human behaviour. Or like the way he denies that there has been an historic oppression of females by the opposite sex: I agree that the way the left wants to pursue sex equality is stupid and inefficient but we can't deny facts like women wer denied the right to vote or the way radical islam treats women as inferior beings..
His book (12 rules) disappointed me a bit as I felt he is trying to present his view of the world as some kind of universal truth. He seems to me to be very pesimistic about human nature and he tries to convince the reader that life is mostly about suffering. For example he quotes the Bible a lot as a source of archetypes , and in doing so he forgets that that is just the product of one of the many different cultures that mankind has created over the centuries (surely if he analyzed the Bagavad Gita he couldn't have reached the same conclusions).. In 2 words: he's very biased. He grew up with an obsession for the evil that humans hide inside and he decided he found the explanation but it just seems to me he s trying to convince other people (and maybe himself) that his opinion is the only acceptable one. I don't know how to explain it but... Eric Fromm and other humanistic psychologists tried to explain events like the Holocaust in a much more objective, accurate and unbiased perspective.
Then I dug into his personal life. I usually keep one's personal life separated from their work/message, but in this case I couldn't as JP tends to behave and present himself as a guru or a role model, even if he denies it. And I found out much inconsistency. He developed an addiction to anti depressants which is totally human and understandable but it sounds the opposite of his "stand with your shoulder straight" attitude. He went on a 100% carnivore diet and he publicly advertised its supposed benefits on a podcast : I mean.. he's a doctor and this is a really dangerous claim. He also kept involving his daughter in his public appearances and he supported, or at least didn't try to stop, her "Lion Diet" scam (basically she's selling advice/psychological support on how to be a 100% carnivore. Look it up, it's pretty weird). And a bunch of other stories from his colleagues as well, about his ... delusions of grandeur.
Again, I hate using personal issues to discredit the thought of a person but in this case I see a preacher more than a scientist so I think he should live up the messages he delivers.
Long post I know and English is not my native language so I apologize for the mistakes.
Guys and girl should learn to have a backbone. Physical attraction always helps start a relationship but character, and if both really want to commit determines if their relationship will last.
Bah. Relations are idealistic to some depending on their strength and self-sovereignty.
anxiety is the crux of every relationship
@@xarmy5669 i take anxiety medication. It helps!
@@de7904 I dont mean anxiety for leaving ur moms house. I mean females forward think more than men, if a female feels shes going to spend next year, ..or next week alone she while develop anxiety over it as a fear of not knowing when its going to end. So she will begin a relationship, any relationship.
@@xarmy5669 😂😂😂
I really like how he takes stories from history and connects them to make sense in modern times today
it's slightly a bit more nuanced than he put it, but i guess reductive rhetoric will always gets around quicker than deeper understanding. 🙄
I would love to see what his exams look like
"Lable the parts of the brain"
Did you clean your room? Don't lie, I will know.
“Ladies put away your textbooks, men please meet in the courtyard you have one hour to go into the world of chaos and slay the dragon”
@@MrPrince416 Women, you will choose from among those who return. There will not be enough to go around.
Question one, how many benzos can you snort within an hour?
This made me relive the feeling I had when I relized my ex and I were done. In a positive light it meant I was free. And in a negative light it meant I had to find meaning in it to be at peace. Both are important and it was so well descibed it brought that feeling back. Incredible
Well, he inspired a new generation of students who spent thousands of dollars to hear what they could have learned through experience or by reading his book. University should not teach about gender, women, and sex, it should be to teach about jobs.
@@jacqueslee2592 while I hear what you are saying I definitely think there is a place in this world for what he teaches. I've learned many things from listening to his videos. I find this much more important than any other school subject in my daily life. Critical thinking is not something many people practice and I would rather this be a gen ed class than some other garbage they make mandatory for students
Our world and humanity as a whole would be so much better if all of our teachers taught with such passion and in such a way that made a person interested and want to learn like Jordan does.
Become the teacher 🤔
The emotions JP is putting with his voice and gestures is just incredible
I found myself in depression for a year rn and this stranger from the internet kickin my ass verbally helped better than anything else
Me to!
Imagine all your lectures this energetic and inspiring. People would actually start to listen, to think about what they just heard, to remember.
Like Peterson's lectures.
To build something new, you must first make room by tearing out something old. All buildings start under the ground and work up. When you find your world torn down and you are in a hole, that is the best time to start a new foundation. Rebuilding lives is the hardest construction job on earth. Giving up just leaves you in a hole 6 feet down. It is the challenges in life that define us. The winner is the one ready to go the long haul despite setbacks and difficulty.
"Trust no one and 'no one' will let you down." Machiavelli. A life without trust is a lonely soul. We all must trust someone some days. If you are trustworthy, people will trust you. But even the best of us make mistakes. The smarter of us sometimes make the worse ones. Their actions effect more people.
Sometimes thinking about it will paralyze you. We need each other to move forward to a better life.
hellavadeal ‘Sometimes the people with the worst past, create the best future’ - Umar Ibn Al Khattab
I love irony.
Wish I could pin these high rank comments somewhere.
This is a good piece of advice
@@justjordan6186 Thanks, be the change you want to see. I got this from other people , because nothing is new under the sun when it comes to these things. Blessings.
“And it’ll pay off at a place and time that doesn’t even exist yet.” WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Lookin like a snack
“ you make sacrifices in the present so that you can make the future better” facts
Starting at 8:34 -> the story of my life after my 11 year relationship/marriage collapse. Here still trying to collect and sort out the pieces. I pray to God I'm able to find someone that could help me process the chaos of my life. I wish Dr Peterson was my psychologist. This man is legend and pure wisdom. Your videos have really helped me pulled through this last year
hey no matter how far we are on the Earth, I feel you cos Id experienced smth similar and trying to recover aswell. The main thing for us is the will, we still fighting for the better tomorrow for ourselves because we want to be happy, so you are strong enough to process it if you realise that there are things that should be changed. sry if this message is messy, just trying to express my thoughts and emotions and my english is not perfect, I hope u feel good the year after your comment
@Sigmund I feel like you shouldn't be the one doling out advice.
You are going to be ok
He can be your psychologist....at $500,000/hour.
Agatha the truth is you have to love yourself and your spiritual higher power who loves you and anyone else you think you should. Everything else is "stuff".
This speaks to me on whole other level, I've been extremely frustrated to lose opportunity's with people I've liked and lost them due to my own issues that weren't letting me be. I was to afraid of this or that or constantly thought about the idea of losing them as soon as they started to like me. It's discouraging sometimes cause when it happens over and over and over again it starts to make you bitter inside and make every bit of improvement you've thought you made seem as though it was completely futile. The first step though is too realize that you have issues though and work them through but the hardest part is to fix it, for me it's at least the idea of losing someone so dear to me and being left alone once more. I'm still somewhat in a stagnated state but I'm doing my best to work on myself, it's the worse when sometimes my mind tells me more no matter how hard I try I'll fail nonmatter what. Then I have to fight it and think "no fuck that, I'm going to give it my all no matter how many times I fail. you just have to believe in yourself.
I think you, myself (and a lot of men) put too much pressure on ourselves to be absolutely perfect before we enter into a relationship with a woman. No one is ever going to be perfect. Even long successful marriages are not perfect, but you need to get out there and do it because that's how you'll learn, and you learn best when you are moving. You can't change gears when you are not moving. Also, they may be afraid of the relationship falling apart shortly after beginning, but you'll never know unless you try. And whatever happens it will be an experience you learn so much from.
@@imalamboman12 it comes at a cost, as it may; pain is the best teacher.
@@imalamboman12 love your convo guys. true, many are too harsh to themselves, when in reality women like to date "projects". women can see potential far better in men than men can do by themselves. but when you date and find a significant other, so many start to stagnate, to lose themselves and their purpose. until you get heartbroken and wonder where it all went wrong. and then you start over again, you become better and date better women. it's a cruel cycle and probably will always be. like in the last minute of this vid. you heal to become a better person, you make sacrifices in the present so you get a better outcome in the future. and honestly as dull and obscure it sounds, maybe that's all that it is to life, same from an evolutionary point of view. You try to get better, and that's where human beings are imo the happiest and most content, when you grow. You accept the pain and suffering, the sacrifices, and start to love them the same you love the fruits of your labor and your hard work, or you get bitter and feel resentment for the rest of your days.
@@LionNezTV nope, it's about looks only
@@xeres7688 If it was then how come someone that thought I was mega cute suddenly just lose interest, personality counts as well.
he's a good teacher, it's a shame people are too close minded to see his brilliance
I love how he makes the simplest of ideas sound intellectual. Stupid people must think he is a genius.
I like JP. But I get the impression a lot of people are too close minded to question JP. I'm sure both exist.
@@juliosanchez95Simple ideas are really not "simple", they are just a simplified version of a more complex and large process. Just like being born, or simply being "alive".
Humans often reflect on something so common and "simple" as being alive, and yet, you're stupid enough to ignore it. I hope you grow up from this salty self you've turned yourself into.
@@juliosanchez95he explains you.
most people have the common sense to respect their teachers @@Perditions
Sacrifice, dealing with chaos, dealing with malevolence, handling failure & rejection, being judged in public, dealing with the fear of an unknown future, facing your worst fears, all things I & know my son learned growing up doing an intense realistic martial art. Or you can do years of therapy & attend many semesters in Dr Peterson's classes.
I do not have money to pay for particular mental care and let me tell you videos like these help a lot.
Get the mental help you need.
A lot of "mental healthcare" is just unnecessary pills and pharmaceutical prescriptions so, this may be a double benefit.
Unless you actually do need the pills. Then maybe it would help. But I think most don't. Especially most people who struggle with depression. That depression comes about for most because of their living situation and their life-style. It's a rarer few who actually have major chemical imbalances not associated with life style or environment.
Thank God for RUclips, my mental health was falling apart, but luckily found this man, Alan Watts, Eckhart Tolle and the channel School of life, they are changing my view on life 🙂
You can go to a county hospital that basically provides free healthcare, you can go to free local support groups for depression and bipolar etc, cognitive exercises help , herbal and nootropics supplements can help
Me: Clicks video titled "Women always reject these men"
Jordan Peterson: "There's a crocodile with a clock it its stomach."
Me: "I see. My problems all makes sense now."
Lol makes sense to me 😆
This happens to me in most of Jordens videos.
@elmateo77, do you recognize the reference to Peter Pan?
@@Nick_Taylor. No I've never seen the movie.
@@elmateo77 Captain Hook, Peter Pan's arch nemesis, gets chased by a crocodile with a clock in its belly. It's a metaphor for an angry middle aged man who's held captive by a job that eats all his time. Peter Pan lives in Never Land and leads the Legion of Lost Boys, because he sees these crocodiles hunt Captain Hook and thinks to himself: "See! This is why I never want to grow up!"
"Women always reject these men" -- the ones who stare at their laptop screens throughout a Jordan Peterson lecture.
🤣
@Joshua Bull I 've met quite a few women who have a problem with touching men's feet. At least there are some who don't :))
@@stevegandalf4739 i have a problem with women touching my feet its weird
Good thing I’m using my phone
I would loove to actually be at a Jordon Peterson Lecture and sure i might stare at my computer screen occasionally becuase he has Big Brain ALL THE TIME and me only sometimes so he looses me now and again
The intensity with which he teaches is his conviction manifesting itself in making people realize why they should sacrifice their own pleasures so that they can leave a better world behind for the coming generations to live in
Stop putting false titles to this lectures PLEASE... HE NEVER TALK ABOUT THAT...
Packed classroom.
Obviously no one gets sick or sleeps late for this class!!
Jordan: "....anyway, that's why I don't eat bagels for breakfast. Moving on..."
Professor Jordan knows how to project and illustrate his subject lectures in the best way possible!
His last portion of this lecture dealt with betrayal of a partner but it also perfectly hit women who are suddenly thrust into widowhood. I will watch this again and again.
I hope you're doing ok.
@@TetaroSethThis! Comments like yours give me hope for humanity.
the Bible says you can find a new partner... NOT IN THE MODERN SENSE LOL... Just that a relative lost his wife in a very tragic way, and in the midst of his extreme trial which lasted some years, he could find love again.
"We either die as a hero or live long enough to see ourselves becoming a villain" Batman's excerpt.
Rejections teach us how to become better
@unbanthis 2 completely false, beeing an alpha doesn't mean to be ignorant. An alpha will always try to be better and to improve.
@unbanthis 2 If you're not willing to improve, you're already dead.
If your point is to keep true to oneself and one's path, you're onto something.
But who the hell respects someone who's completely ignorant and not admitting a mistake courageously and with dignity, instead of simping? If you adore people who are narcissistic, there's something wrong.
iv turned full villain sadly lol it's not awful but shitty
The reality is that some people 'trying to be better' still aren't ever going to achieve the desired outcome, and that's just 'nature' as Mr. Peterson puts it. However that does not stop you from finding your purpose in life and fulfilling it. Let the universe decide the rest. If it's meant for you, it will happen.
Batman is wise , a person with ADHD that comes with rejection dysphoria etc it's really hard and trying to keep it in line
His wisdom and insights are truly a breath of fresh air. He has a way of really putting things into perspective that very few can
One thing women dont like is.....a male soporno
@@lebowe6131 did you mean a soprano? as in the singing register?
@@shmlanda yes a woman's singing voice
This had nothing to do with why Women always reject certain men
Start worshipping a Horus and you'll see....
@FatalPies I have no idea that's why I clicked on the video. This video has nothing to ddo with the title.
Listen to what he’s saying instead of looking for a concrete answer
@@StarBadger07 I thought it was pretty clear. Women reject men that are riddled with problems in his personality that he's ignoring.
Whether it's having poor social skills, self-negligence or having low self-esteem. Especially when you try to fake any of these things, it comes of wrong.
I think the best way to get to know yourself is by writing down a journal at the end of the day and walk through the situations objectively. Then look at the situation from an outside perspective.
When you do this for a while, you will see patterns. Patterns of good social interactions and bad ones.
But in regards to social skills, it's the easiest way to improve your relationships. Most people suck at it, so it's not weird that interactions can differ vastly.
It's usually as easy as showing a bit of interest. Say hi and ask how they are.
Don't pretend to pay attention but be active in the conversation. Don't make assumptions, but turn your assumptions into questions.
You know, be the person you think other people should be. Be strict to yourself and tolerant to others.
@@BboyKeny that last line is a rule of mine. Nice to see others talking about it 👌🏾
The content is much more rewarding than what the title imply.
I have a narcissistic mother and an ex wife who was allot like her (Freud winks). As a result of surviving those two black holes, I give approx 0 damn's what any woman thinks about me at this point and as a result I found myself having a far better relationship with the women I did meet going forward because I didn't have an attachment to the outcome of our interactions, meaning I was far more genuine and open leading to the great 13 year partnership I have been in with the wonderful woman in my life that actually likes me for who I am and not just for what I can do for her. Always be genuine with new people so you attract the right ones and do not compromise your values just to please anybody else ever , regardless of gender or desire. Patience + passionate disinterest became my go to mindset for most problems in life based on how well it has worked out with my partner and has helped me in so many other parts of my life as well. Not caring what others think (while still being polite and affable of course) draws people to you like a strong magnet...life is just so odd sometimes 😂. The more you want the less you get, the less you get the more you have. Weird! Best of luck out there everyone, you got this.
How does he understand the depth of pain so accurately that he has probably never experienced, its mind blowing to think someone could truly understand it the way he does. I never knew that pain could exist until my entire being was ingulfed in it. I truly almost died of a broken heart but thankfully I lived and dont even know that person that died within me for tge better.
He understands bc he is one of the most brilliant psychologist and hyperintellects. He is utterly obsessed with knowing true psychology.
Me too
He's a psychologist.
You obviously don't know anything about his life. Him and his family have been through tremendous trauma.
Hes been through a lot, but also listening to 1000s of people problems you can see patterns in behaviour and learn from them. Jordans intellect is no accident. The man has studied the human mind all his life, and continues to every day
Wish I had had a professor like him in my college years. Makes you strain mentally to keep up, but what a strain.
Imagine "straining" to keep up with jordan peterson.
That lecture piece was massive, engaging, and remarkably useful as an insight into the individual psyche and the root cause of the most devastating aspects of group dynamics. I wonder to what extent the students find this piece similarly valuable.
i don't care about the title, still wondering why it's so often misleading on your channel
it's the content i know is good anyways
I've noticed the titles are always really off. My theory is the uploader doesn't understand the lectures whatsoever.
Kristine That’s pretty pessimistic. Have you ever considered that because of the large range of topics addressed, the uploaded doesn’t really know what to title the video?
The topics of the title aren't addressed
The titles are misleading because their purpose is not to represent the content of the video, but to convince as many people as possible to click on the video and gain views. It's called clickbaiting
It's because you don't understand the psychology behind click bait, people gravitate towards controversy, if it was a title the was mundane you wouldn't even pay attention to it
A functional representation that increases your wisdom is Dr. Jordan Peterson. Thank you JP!
Imagine being at the university and see Jordan B. Peterson enter the classroom.
I mean to be fair that’s what he did for the vast majority of his career before getting famous
@@joela.4058 Lucky bastards.
These students sure don't seem enthralled by him. Is he talking way over their heads? Idk but it is discouraging to watch.
The girl at the far right of the front row NEVER MOVED. Is she alive?
First class honours for everyone
This is how I envision Aristotle lecturing at The Lyceum.
Altho Aristotle's audience were most probably not thinking of their next shift at Starbucks, or who to go out with from Tinder. or Grindr. Guy first row on right side is so obvious about being bored, and not paying attention.
@@angelg2638 To me, the class is a perfect representation of society. It's a perfect backdrop to watch this against.
I'm pretty sure Plato was rocking the Academy, and Aristotle rocked the Lyceum....
Idk if Aristotle ever lectured high out his gourd on benzos.
I love how he makes the simplest of ideas sound intellectual. Stupid people must think he is a genius.
The opposite of making sacrifices now to get a good payoff is even more fascinating because if you don't make any effort now, you will have to make sacrifices in the future.
True fact, if your not 100 percent dedicated to building your future, turning yourself into a machine life will have nothing nice to throw at you. Now if you're born moderate, the best thing you can hope for is to have little self awareness. Doing our very best is what we got to do. Layziness doesn't make happiness, only loneliness.
You either cry now and laugh later or laugh now and cry later.
These students are so lucky to be able to study and learn from him while being in the class physically
What an intelligent being. His ability to explain such complex ideas is incredible.
I think his IQ is 151.
That’s an INTP to you.
lol, wait till u see how quantum physicist can dump down the subject to dinner time anecdote
@@goldkhw he has an annoying woman's voice
it's slightly a bit more nuanced than he put it, but i guess reductive rhetoric will always gets around quicker than deeper understanding. 🙄
I wish I could hear more where this cut off. I don’t understand how a person can come to terms with such a huge betrayal and be able to go on without concern it would happen again.
I sometimes forget how good his lectures are and then I stumble on one and go “oh yeah I should keep watching these” lol
I personally am attracted to a man who is pursuing his purpose, who makes time to give me attention.
This applies to both sexes. Attraction is a universal law.
@@joerivasiv1090 maybe from your experience of woman you’ve associated with, you cannot generalize a gender, as much as you may want too, it’s impossible.
@@joerivasiv1090 I’m sorry you feel that way
@@joerivasiv1090 best wishes to you my friend 🙂✌🏼
@@joerivasiv1090 agreed, work on your vitality to overcome it.
I hope those kids realize how lucky they were to of had Jordan as their professor. My god, when I went to college I couldn’t stay awake to save my own life.
@@MT-kx2uc lmfaoooo
Wow. Your command of the English language is as beautiful as the expression cellar door. Money well spent (we can surmise).
“I hope THESE students realize JUST how fortunate they were to HAVE HAD Jordan as THEY’RE (jk) Professor. MY GOD! When or MY GOD; when I ATTENDED college (just because you WENT to college doesn’t tell us much. You obviously didn’t go there to grab a book on syntax) … attended college, I couldn’t stay awake to save MY LIFE” not my OWN life. So, basically what you’re saying is you were able to stay awake to SAVE THE LIVES OF OTHERS but NOT YOUR OWN OMFG
@@mazrio128 holy shit you are insufferable. it’s called colloquial english, einstein.
@@mazrio128 i don't think you have many friends
Step 1. Find a lady who has already expressed interest in you. If she isn't attractive to you, give her a chance anyway. If you're in school, arrive to class a few minutes late. As heads turn to look, look for the women that smile at you.
If you only pursue women who has already expressed interest in you, you will end up choosing a compromise. Doesnt matter if you have looks or talent.
@@winzyl9546 I've been single over 11 years, but it's better than being with the wrong person. Most breakups happen because I won't let them move in with me.
@@davidmuth4571 you’ve waited eleven years for the perfect woman to waltz into your life. how long will i take before you realize that no such person exists? that the only way to love another person successfully is through compromise, sacrifice, and EFFORT? sounds to me like you’re making excuses
Some say If you want deam person with certain qualities and character, first you have to become such person....Be decent, nice have sense of humor so you will attract person with such qualities.... and also they say an important thing for a new relationship or also career is vulnerability because vulnerable people are open to opportunities and that vulnerability is important for being a good leader, empathic leader to have an open mind.
@@alaalfa8839 exactly, there will always be compromises, but if you have the caliber to attract other high caliber people, you wont need to compromise too much. Trying to find your "perfect one" is a waste of time, better to strive to become the perfect one and attract people of the same caliber.
"Back then you'd last about 15 minutes."
Cracked me *up*
Life will never change and never has. If your lazy, you won't be lucky either. Hard work plus more hard work, that's the name of the game. And anyone who says it ain't necessarily so is a liar or a fool. Naturally you might just sit on your arse all day when everybody else is trying hard but if you end up alone and bitter by the time your 40, you will known who is to blame.life today is just as hard as it was back then only with variations.
I think region is important too. Some places in the world continually beat people down with poverty and a near complete lack of work. Or, they have work options that pay so little that no amount of overtime could ever overcome their poverty. OR, you have jobs that physically or mentally destroy the workers within a handful of years. I think hard work is important, but it also matters WHAT type of work you do, and what it pays.
If you don't have any particular skills to get paid more, aquire those skills. If the job is breaking you down, either adapt or get a different job. If there are no jobs, flee. Leave. Move somewhere else. Same in regions where the cost of living keeps you trapped in debt, find somewhere more affordable.
I like to think they're all sitting an important exam and Peterson's just rambling at them for 10 minutes
This man says so many words so quickly to portray concepts that i have dificulty imagining. Ill leave it to my subconscious to make sense of it and itll report back with meaning at some point i assume
Watching the students in the video: every one of them staring into a laptop screen as if typing notes will capture the essense of Dr Peterson's discourse.
WE are the ones watching and learning, now, on youtube. We can pause. We can digest. We can resume playback when we are ready. The density of insight from Dr Peterson is overwhelming for most mortals without these luxuries of control. THANKS TO WHOEVER FILMED THESE LECTURES FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUMANITY.
Humans in general like what they can’t have and don’t feel attracted to people who chaise them
But I feel like a lot of people aren’t ready to admit that
I feel like many people especially these days will be caught in this endless dating cycle forever.
Not related but 5:21 "I'm not a fan of moral relativism for a variety of reasons, partly because I think It's an extreme form of cowardice" is absolutely true people nowadays don't to accept any guidance that is restricting of their actions.
Never*, not just nowadays.
Why is it so important to be liked? I mean, you present yourself as yourself to people, you're truthful and open and up front, you don't steal from them or exploit them, or try to murder them spiritually or emotionally ot physically, and there you are. Maybe they will like you, maybe they won't. Why is it so important?
I think that really depends on the person's life experiences. If you grew up constantly belittled, or you never got praise/attention from loved ones, you might grow up seeking this kind of validation. At the end of the day, I think almost everyone likes to be praised or liked, but some people just really crave it.
Peterson would say why are you sure that yourself is good enough? And if you arent good enough why wouldn't you try to be better. And I think you are in for a rude awakening if you think you can go through life alone and be happy. The loneliness epidemic in the west causing depression and suicide at high rates is proof of that.
@@alexhoward1884 I disagree, because to be alone in the relationship department is not a socially approved way of life. You could have a virgin friend who gets a girlfriend for the first time in his life and after a couple months he and his woman can spend some time with you and they'll want you to be in a relationship just because they are. In contrast, a single red pill man will encourage you to be single because of the dramas of relationships.
The truth is, you don't know what you are talking about and life is nothing other than perspective and reactions. The majority of Humans crave attention and "love" but so do they crave Carbohydrates and Sugars, Caffienes and Sex. Just because a large number of the population decides THEY want to be a certain way "to be happy" doesn't mean You should copy them because as you said,
Society is f*cked. Suicide rates are higher than ever as well as obesity, depression and anxiety- Society is the one to blame, because they're the ones encouraging and condoning vices and weak mentalities to make themselves feel better when they don't do enough.
OF COURSE The human has it's own hormones and nature makes us men want to spread out DNA the most we can, and nature tells women to be attracted to The Most Succesful man around because it's an animalistic thing- hormones..sex..
But I have yet to meet a little 6 year old boy or a 25 year old man who tells me "I can't wait to grow up and be with the same woman for my entire life" because that is not in the mans nature. LOVE makes us think, say and do things but it's not in our nature, just another Vice.
Many people define their self worth by how valuable others find them, I really admire people, I love people for the talents they grow and wisdom they share, that is so validating, i can only speak for myself but, if others don't like me or appreciate me I must not be contributing positively to others experience of life, many people who want to be liked have often relied on others to held find themselves or help make them feel whole again by showing them new perspectives.
Because you're own hormonal balance and emotional state are greatly affected by your subconscious perspective of your relative position in the dominance hierarchies you occupy.
Who cares what women think, I do what i want..😂😂😂
And women will think well of you for that.
U have good genes nice beard and moustache
Exactley Smith!
I think as a man you’re not suppose to do what you want per se, you’re suppose to do what is right.
@@yup4609 fuck that
My dog has figured out the sacrifice the present to improve the future. This video just made it occur to me. We cook him dinner, like real food. Cooper eats his food instantly. Max leaves his for hours, eats, shits, plays with Cooper and goes to bed a happy dog!!
Never thought I’d have a dog more responsible than I am 😂
then there's dogs who chase their own tails lol
5:38 He just told us why our current society will die soon, especially when he talks about money.
human labor/work is having a much lower share of income than capital
The Bible foretold that the greatest society of all time would Fall Faster then any other society previously.
Why? Is everyone gonna work for the mexican cartel and the mafias just like in John Wick?
our society is already dead
@@borges3099 It’s way past that even at this point Full Judgement is much more of a good thing then bad.
my professors are nothing like this. These lectures are gold. This is education.
SUMMARY:
"These men" = those who do not manifest any order in their actions, so that a woman (or any person) would consider him as possessing 2 characteristics.
1 Imposing will on chaotic time to imprint a chain of predictable consequences on it (clear goals)
2 providing a stable coherence, in order to guarantee a safe ambient to stay within (explicit INDEPENDENT means, I. E. No dependent on the casual occurrence of a particular mate, but independent, variable on all of them (adaptability) since the new ingredient of the mate decision, which, then, is translated into reciprocal, particular , explicit interest.)
These are all fantastic so far. What a treasure, this presentation of information, dusting off the dormant things we know about ourselves almost forgotten. Humanity, wake up.
I love making a better future, I know that I'm sacrificing the present, but it doesn't feel like a sacrifice, the sense of moving forward towards a goal makes life meaningful and I become happy, and it's not like the sacrifice is pointless, because it pays off, everyday get the payback from the yesterday I sacrificed, and so it becomes something valuable
You have a well functioning brain and, hopefully, social network, Ro C. Make the most of them!
7:49 Jordan Peterson goes from lecturing to the class to telling off a student who fell asleep in class and is just waking up
If we were, in fact, healed by having figured out what went wrong and ensuring that it would not happen again, then we would rarely be healed. Escaping vulnerability typically carries a terrible price tag, no matter how desperate we are to do it. We usually get to a place where we _think_ we know the whole story of what happened and why, or someone like Jordan working with us thinks he or she knows it, but in my experience as an old person, our declarations and certainties, or declared uncertainties, as our final conclusions to act on, rarely prove to be the entire, accurate story in long-term retrospect.
I have watched people in great difficulties choose alienation in recent decades more than ever, as a result of betrayals and deep disappointments of all kinds, and while we assure ourselves and everyone around us of how certain we are of our knowledge and our hard choice, maybe even how proud we are of ourselves for making it and maintaining it, behind the scenes its permanence can cement our disappointments and our anguish--freezing them in time and place behind the wall of years--rather than achieving the best resolution that might have been possible with more work, more patience, more watching, and better communication (even through a third party if needed). Long-term outcomes really matter, especially when those around us suffer from the poor ones as well (such as our children) when they are not their fault, no matter how many coats of veneer we may try to cover them with.
Even the most beautiful women are humbled by the affects of time ...
The wall is very unkind to most of them and that is also when their attitude starts to catch up with them
I'm not a woman hater. Just had many experiences of beautiful woman using me when they were at their peak and then becoming desperate as their looks faded ...
I feel like ONLY the most beautiful women are humbled by the effects of time. The rest of us get humbled wayyyy earlier on lol
@@Tahany At least your sense of humor compensates 😁😁😁
They age like milk.
if you treat your life like everything has a formula and needs to be calculated, watch as nothing in it goes right. You just have to get out there and not overthink everything, there isn't a one size fits all in life. Just like with anything, what some women will like, others don't. You can't predict life or people. Just try things, live and learn. You'll be much happier and confident, even if you fail, because you tried and are living your life. There's no "what ifs" or scary mysteries to solve, you've seen the results, you've grown, and you're on to new and better things.
J.P.: “You make sacrifices in the present so the future is better.”
Boomers: “lol f*ck them kids 😂😂😂”
It's funny to me that here and in a lot of other places there is issues with being short staffed or worker shortage. I tried providing an explanation once that when I was trying just two years ago I never heard back from anyone and yet "people just don't want to work" and I'm like cause it's not worth it lol
Yep, friggin hedonist hippy boomers.
If they taught true history, all his answer would come as easy as adding pennies.
Yeah for reals liked they wud say in eglesh clas...
But then it would just be common cents
Almost all of the sacrifices I've ever made have never paid off into anything. So I've found myself mostly seeking immediate gratification in the moment for everything I do.
His voice pans at least1.5 octaves here. He's in the zone.
I literally will listen to any of his lectures doesn’t matter what it’s about. He’s just so charismatic and passionate about his teachings. I don’t always agree with everything but man is he right majority.
If masculinity and mastery are things of interest to you, I invite you to use the resources on the Mastery Order Channel and challenge yourself with some ideas about manhood to become the kind of man you would admire.
We can only better ourselves together, as men among men, so I invite you to use what I share and, of course, share your own opinions so that others can benefit from them as well.
Looking forward to your points of view.
All the best to you!
I've found that a social life is unfulfilling and cluttered with pretentious folks. I don't want to posture or embellish upon life. I just want to be free to be myself.
This is absolutely true. I would add however, a caution, to be honest with yourself but also compassionate. The common denominator may be something or even someone you never thought to look at. If you are to change your life, do so Iin small increments. Be willing to do the hard work, but don't try to shoulder the blame of the world... A good therapist (which I am not) will know the difference
Im starting to think RUclips recommendations aren't so random
After all you and I are here...
The medium is the message ♾
*lol* too funny... 👍
Everyone who just clicked on a video and then complains about the randomness of RUclips algorithm in the comments is just dumb. You clicked the video so it worked
@@omecdonald8117 How’s your day going?
@@marshallmcluhan33 Im Good. Just annoyed about ppl complaining about RUclips algorithm. Not About this guy. But it’s just annoying
People need to focus on self improvement as much as they can and ask themselves how they can be better. Try to repair/fix whatever issue is causing your problems as best as you can
The one who was very sleepy actually got the words about the eye. Lol, what a cool way to make him come to senses. Hahahahaaa
These titles are clickbait, but I still enjoy listening to this man.
What you are describing my good sir is a bandit not a warrior. The difference is a bandit can take advantage of the average person whereas once a bandit comes across the warrior he stands no chance. Warriors are calm calculated and deadly...
I really loved your description of "gang mentally". You are right on in my opinion. Hope of a better future is everything... because it subconsciously controls every little thing you do right now and day to day.
Dr. JP: "wake the hell up"
Random student in the back: "oh shit"
I could listen and would love to have a conversation with a mind like this. He's able to explain experiences I've been having most of my life. The one saying I've learned to hold above all in life has been "Some times in life you need to realize a poor investment and simply cut your losses." That goes for people too. You can exercise this once you have been alone, learning and understanding yourself. You cannot understand others or relate to them until you learn yourself first.
If you're basing your life choices around how women respond to them, then prepare yourself for a very whimsical lifestyle, gentlemen. I recommend lifting weights wearing tight shirts, and smelling healthy.
So good to see these young people getting good information. You know it will positively affect their lives😊
The problem with sacrifice even today is that you might not get anything out of it, or very little when it comes to your future and the future of your offspring. Maybe society gets something out of it, but mostly its the rich people who get something out of it. My experience. A person works 60-80 hours a weeks, little time for family/friends, little time for healthcare prevention strategies and then illness hits and the illness is partly due to overwork heartattack, autoimmune disease, psychiatric disease, etc.)... then /if you are lucky in Europe for about a year you have financial support during the year) you are not able to work for a year.... then maybe you are able to return to work for say 24-32 hours a week for the rest of your life, but doing less stressful work, less interesting work, perhaps unable to drive for work due to health complication.... That is a lot of lost days of income due to sacrifice.
Eastafrican people traditionally expected men to be warriors from late teens to mid or late 20s, they became fathers and husbands and tradesmen until 40s when they became village councillors, older men became wise elders or old men who just stepped aside to let younger men runn families and councils and spent their time drinking beer . Or so i read in national geography.
Jordan realy is a great teacher. Hes so pasionate
That last bit about betrayed by a partner in a relationship really hit home for me.
Me too. It very painful.
I feel ambitious after watching his classes! AHAHAHAH! Bless this man! So honest about his terms. So relatable!
9:00 is the point that Doctor Peterson described exactly what happened to my through my last 2 years...I feel a lot better now that I believe I know the answer that will make me trust my self and women again... ( or at least will solve a big part of the issue ), This also gave me a lot of hope, because the confusion and the problem seems unsolvable most of the time, which comforts me.
Thank you Doctor Peterson!
and thanks to the person who uploaded this.
Daniel Baloi What is the answer for you? Please share. Thanks.
I thank you for time stamp.. I really, really, really, needed the advice too.. I'm on that scenario.. Almost shattered myself..
@@ghani3952 I hope you three; the guy who commented, the second guy who replied and you to have everything you want back in your lives. I truly mean it. I hope the best for you all and good luck in your lives, don't worry we're here for you all. ❤️🙏
You want to make sure you’re at your best you can be when you meet a person you want to peruse. The last thing you want to do is be depressed, lazy, and out of shape/passion on the day you meet someone you want to peruse. I used to think I’d find the one to inspire me to be my best but that’s not how it works. I used to think it was bad timing on their part instead of mine. You don’t build a garden to attract butterflies. You build a garden so when you find a butterfly you love, you already have a garden for them to enjoy.
@ 7:30 the best explanation of how and why we react to betrayal.