Yes. Let's go 1 step further. Watch brands that don't even advertise lug width on their website. You are forced to visit 3rd party reviews to find back which strap sizes to buy
My wife said I could have anything I wanted for my birthday , tried to buy steel GMT BLNR, after being insulted by 3 AD's because I am dumb enough to want to spend $9K at their establishment but apparently you cant buy a rolex unless you already bought a rolex, anyway F those guys ...
Rolex is playing the DeBeers game of withholding stock to artificially pump the market. Rolex are way overpriced for what they are. Seiko movements blow them away and are way cheaper. Grand Seiko is the most innovative analog automatic watch movement to exist at this point making Rolex obsolete and just a piece of antiquated jewellery.
HorrorMirror Drives me nuts as well! Conversely, there’s something soothing and meditative about watching that second hand meet its mark precisely. This is even-more-so-the-case when it’s a quartz watch.
Same here. I can't stand when the minute hand doesn't hit the marker when the second hand hits 12 o'clock either. Hacking seconds are pretty much a requirement for me in a mechanical.
CrimFerret This is actually a problem with nearly any mechanical watch. You really have to line up the minute hand perfectly when you hack it at 12. On GMTs like my BLNR using the quick set hour hand can actually change the alignment depending on how you originally adjusted the time. It can move the minute hand forwards when quick setting the hour forward and backwards if quick setting backwards. Of course only OCD folks like me notice or care. The Daytona tends to line up perfectly out of all of the Rolex sports for some reason. Very easy to get it perfect.
Not to mention the amount of time that factory service can take. The price charged is already an issue a lot of the time, but how can the watchmakers justify a 6 month or even longer wait when they presumably have all the parts they'd need at their fingertips?
Go to a small watchmaker. Yes you don't have the warranty of the manufacture, but well, i needed to service two watches two years ago and the independant watchmaker did it in two weeks (not 4 month like omega or Zenith) for 80€ or something each one.
@@ald4104 I guess as long as it's not something so exotic that it would be hard for anyone but the factory to service, this sort of makes sense, especially if you never plan to sell the watch anyway. With Omega having a 5 year warranty, I'd probably consider just buying a fairly late model pre-owned with 4 or so years left and sell it when it got down to 6 months or so, wash and repeat. Never have to worry about servicing and what little I might lose would probably be less than the cost of a factory service.
I totally agree. I feel like warranties are next to worthless. I once chipped the glass on my watch. My AD sent it in to be replaced and it took 6 months. Frankly, I would have been better off having it done myself. My local watchmaker had the crystal on hand and would have done it that day.
Exactly, I have a friend who made a comment to my other friend regarding his watch, "Watches are for fashion right?" From what I understand from his statement and the tone of his voice, that there's no need to wear one since phones exist. Needless to say, I lost respect after hearing that crap lol
Recently I had a battery in my Wenger replaced at Batteries &Bulbs +. I live in a small town in Florida, originally from Orlando, and there's not a lot of places that replace watch batteries here and they are closest. The first thing I noticed when talking to the guy was that he was wearing a Breitling B1. Very uncommon around here. I wound up having a good long conversation about watches and aviation with him and he didn't even charge me for the battery. I used to be in the pawn business my family has been in the jewelry business and I know a little bit about watches and was very impressed with his knowledge. I've known guys in the business that don't know as much as a guy at Batteries Plus. He also told me about a watch maker locally that I never knew about. An all around great experience.
I have had most of my watch batteries changed out at my local Interstate Battery retail store. Friendly people and reasonable prices and they will handle any watch with care. Walk in service as well.
Batteries Plus also has a lifetime replacement option. For about twice the price of a single battery change, you can get free batteries for life on that watch. I won’t choose that option for a Casio, but the next time my Hamilton quartz needs a battery, I’m going for the lifetime plan. I’m glad to hear you had such a good experience.
Wearing small and wearing well is different. Plus a watch can wear small on onewrist but not the other. I like the Oris Aquis, it is the smallest 43.5 I have ever had on my hand, but when a friend of mine tried it on it looked massive. And we have roughly the same circumference wrists, but they are pretty different in shape.
Of all the notifications I get, the only ones I truly get excited at seeing are the ones saying The Urban Gentry has posted a new video. Thank you for all you do and for making me an avid lover of watches!
I must agree with number 10 completely. Living in New York City I've had my share of all of that nonsense and more. I no longer wear a watch when I go to an A.D. I notice it throws them off a bit as it leaves them without a way to pre judge your budget or your taste. I also have no problem walking right out the door if I'm ignored for more than a few minutes. Too many options in a city like this to deal with unacceptable behavior when I'm trying to give the store my money.
First time I tried on a smaller vintage watch I have to say initially I was far from convinced at the size. But I kept with it and now I love wearing smaller watches in particular dress watches. My fav watch at the moment (as I've mentioned) is my vintage Ricoh watch. I find it incredible (and quite annoying) that Ricoh themselves make no mention on their corporate history website anything about watches, which is sad and as mentioned, quite a bit annoying! Great video as always sir 👍
100% with you on faux patina. Much prefer it to be fresh as brand new. The whole point of patina is that it tells a story. You cant tell a story straight out the factory!
Actually, I like the dash of color it gives to the Omega Railmaster and Seamaster Coaxial Master. When I first saw it, I didn't realize it was supposed to be patina, it's done so dark!
Paying for faux patina is like spending premium money for clothing damaged ("distressed") at the factory. Used to be you paid less for seconds, not more.
Ten great points about the current watch world. I can't stand websites with an absurd lack of information about the products they're selling. Say hi to Hugo for me, and I'll be looking forward to the next one. Regards, Koen
Hi Koen ‘88. I couldn’t agree with you more. What is so difficult about providing the basic information consumers need to make informed decisions as to whether or not to purchase a particular watch. Websites that don’t provide this info totally baffle me. Your comment is spot on!
great video! the entire watch industry owes you a debt of gratitude. quick story about #1. i was in a watch store on a cruise ship recently and the sales woman was showing me a tissot or a tag and she tells me " it has a swiss quartz movement. " so i ask if it was a Rhonda . and she says " no its a swiss quartz movement and started pushing the store credit card on me . needless to say she didn't make the sale.
A big pet peeve of mine goes against this top 10 and it’s knocking larger watches. Just because your 6” wrist can’t handle a 42mm Sea Master Pro doesn’t mean it’s a bad watch or deserving of ridicule. For every 41mm+ watch a small wrist can’t pull off there are 3 or more 36mm watches that an 8” would look ridiculous wearing. Focus more on craftsmanship and less on diameter
I was thinking exactly the same thing until what he said at the end, which reminded me another of his videos where he also said it: that one should wear a watch according to ones wrist size. For him, a 42mm would look hugemongous. He does comes out as if he were angree at big sizes without thinking of big people, and as far as I can remember he hasn't make the example viceversa, that huge guys shouldn't wear little tiny watches. I just can't imagine The Mountain actor from Games of Thrones wearing a 36mm datejust. For me, at 5'10", I draw my limits at 36mm and 42mm, though my Panerai I think is 44mm but due to the design I guess, it doesn't feel as big. TGV, if you are reading this, you say you are skinny but how tall are you? I cannot believe that watch you were wearing is 34mm, it looks like a ~40mm on you. Good vid and funny as always.
My pet peeves are... -Quartz bashing -auto bashing -42mm watch size bashing (that isn’t remotely large for people 6ft+) -38mm watch bashing (that isn’t remotely small for people 6ft-) Honestly if you like it and it either A.) doesn’t overhang your wrist or B.) isn’t sub 30mm I’ve got no complaints
I like faux patina but of course it's much more preferable to have the real thing. My pet peeve is being told i have enough watches by my significant other.
Muaz Ahmed “a 10 year wait list” is Rolex AD speak for FO! I’ll take it a step further, THERE ARE NO WAIT LISTS except for high spending regular customers, celebrities, politicians and people with great influence (like your local dick news anchor) #justsayin
@@bonzerrrrr lol, yeah I sort of figured that's what they were trying to say. I figure they have a reserve of watches in the back not on display for a - premium repeat customer...
The main thing that irks me in the watch enthusiast scene is the mobs of snobs!! Watch snobbery is so crazy and most of the snobby people I have met will always swear they aren't snobs while looking down their nose at you. Thats what I appreciate about Urban Gentry. Never any snobbery and real critique of the products instead of only focusing on brand name. No brand is safe from the truth. Every watch has its place no matter how good or bad because one mans trash may be the next mans treasure.
The lack of watch service in store, all seem to want to send it away for a minimum of four weeks, then you find yourself chasing the watch up, and no one seems to care when I'll get it back.
I loved this video! I agree with all ten!! One thing that drives me nuts is when some people do not adjust the bracelet at all!! Like the watch is about to fall off over the hand. Ridiculous!!
You mentioned the devaluing of the speedmaster gravitas, I’m completely with you there. I don’t even think of SMs anymore all my fantasizing about space watches is the Bulova accutron Astronaut, I really need to just settle on one before they get expensive. PS. PLEASE do not do a video on the Astronaut, the prices will double over night at least let me buy mine first!
My biggest pet pev is actually people who know nothing about wristwatches and buy them (Rolex above all) just to show off. Unfortunately, they make the market. Also, I totally agree with you, especially with the oversize dress watch trend. I do value brands like Longines that keep on making them in traditional sizes.
You are simply the benchmark , when it comes to watch reviewing . As the son of a master watchmaker , I can only profess respect and admiration for you . Blessings , TGV .
Pet peeve about watch enthusiasts: a collection that has no surprises, nothing but the usual icons (Rolex Sub, Omega Speedmaster, etc). Collect what you love, sure, but dare to be different!
#10 is spot on. Once I entered an official omega store to ask for the speedy reduced maintenance information. The staff were plain rude and wouldn't want to attend to my inquiries, on the prejudice that I wasn't a legitimate customer that would drop money on the spot.
IWC is a perfect example of getting people into watches. Just saw alot of people talking/asking about the IWC Lewis Hamilton was wearing. IWC responded in seconds which is just amazing.
@@mdem5059 Same Orient Triton and Seiko SARK007. Paid less for the Triton than a Seiko 5 here. Just sux having to buy through the grey market and not being able to try a watch on.
@Michael L Yes I know what you are saying and that is fine for a $200 watch but when it's a $2000 watch it would be nice to try it on and have a factory warranty.
Completely agree with you TGV. I feel like a lot of brands don't disclose all the information of the watches, like the movement, dimensions, etc. Another thing is that they don't listen in my opinion to the consumer and rather make a profit of the scarcity of their watches. The Patek Philippe Nautilus in steel is one that comes to mind.
Great video as always tgv! I’m curious have you ever owned or reviewed a white dial field watch? I am eyeing a Hamilton khaki white dial but am unsure. Thoughts? Much love from the Midwest!
Great question. Truth is, no! I did cover white dial but never field. As for the Hammy, that would be my first choice too. I would not be unsure my friend, they are kings of that genre, go for it and enjoy! Life is too short my friend, thank you Ryan, Best regards, TGV
I just purchased a white dial “orient flight”. It is the type “b” flieger style, i put a nato khaki colored strap and it feels very much like a field watch for about $80. I too will someday get a hammy khaki as i’ve always wanted a hamilton watch.
#5 thank you.ive always appreciated your honesty when it comes to a watch review.its helped me make an educated decision when choosing a watch rather than being caught up with the hype.great insight. Good work fella.
I just recently reignited my passion for watches. I started with a one month subscription to a watch service. Then I started watching videos online and realized I can myself create my own masterful superb customized collection. It was then with the help of yourself, and a few of your select RUclips colleagues I now in two months have 20 watches back into my personal collection! And more to come, I collect, I am not a flipper. I am pretty much a minimalist except for the few things I collect passionately. Hats, sneakers, art, books, and now once again watches. I want to thank you especially because you are a scholar and a gentleman, pure class and honesty in all your reviews. My wife is constantly laughing now because your voice, or Fredrico's, or a few others are always playing in the background. To qoute Jody I am doing research with the Gentry because I am looking for Just One More Watch! And my huge pet peeves are watch snobbery and brand haters. I judge each piece on it's own merits just like I do people. Hope to meet you one day sir and shake your hand. You are appreciated here in Brooklyn.
My peeve is Swatch group brands taking affordable 4hz movements like the ETA2804 out of the cheaper watches and putting them in more expensive watches. That may be a very specific peeve, but a lot of people choose entry level Swiss watches over Japanese watches because they like the smooth 4hz sweeping hands that Japanese companies just don't offer for less than a thousand dollars. Now the Swiss don't either.
I have 8 and a half inch wrists and I really can't go for smaller watches... Though my exception to this is tank style watches. I seem to be relatively happy with smaller tank watches, with their elegance and sophistication. Though you have convinced me that 41 is going to work for me...
I have watches almost as large. Sport and tool watches pretty much have to be at least 42mm for me. I'm good with dress watches between 38-40ish. I mean I could probably wear that Lange fine, but I see his point.
My pet peeves: -The endless march towards oversized watches to the point that the average, non-obese, non-roid fuelled body builder, type man has a watch that is almost as wide as his wrist. This is not comfortable nor classy, and I believe one day it is going to be viewed as oversized clothing in the 90s is viewed today: excessive and silly. I would not want to invest serious money into a very expensive watch with the justification that it is "forever", only to find out in a few years time that it is out of fashion. -In house movements which can only be serviced in a place like Switzerland at exhorbidant cost and long waits. -Squared off tips on the hands of Rolex DJ. I prefer pointed, so I know what I am pointing at. -A lack of color options from Rolex. -A complete lack of Rolexes. -A complete distain for new technology from the high end market. Does every very expensive watch have to have a mechanical movement? -Prices on watches (most over $2000) which cannot possibly justify the cost except for vague intangibles having nothing to do with quality or performance. That also includes such a common metal such as steel.
I like the dash of color it gives the Omega Seamaster Coax because I honestly did not realize it was supposed to be patina. It never occurred to me that someone would actually do that on purpose.
#10 hit me right out of the box, because I remember a few years ago the battery had been knocked loose on my Timex Easy Reader (I'm assuming, I don't actually know what it is). My grandma had gotten it for me for Christmas a year or two earlier because I wanted a very simple analog watch for my crappy retail job so that I could check the time without being yelled at. I knew absolutely nothing about watches at that time, but I knew I didn't have the tools to get the case open and shut again to figure out what was wrong with my watch so I decided to go visit a local jeweler's after work one day. Turns out the only jeweler I know of is this really high-end boutique and primarily a Rolex dealership. The day of the week that I showed up they were actually open by appointment only but the guard let me in anyway. They let me, some 20-year-old kid, bum around in my Jewel Osco uniform, gawking at Yachtmasters while their Rolex tech fixed my banged-up $50 Timex. They gave me a whole new battery and a strap to replace the original one which was already falling apart because of how hard I used that watch.
I love this! I honestly don't like limited edition at all. Everyone should have the same opportunities. Rather than having to purchase it later at 3x the cost. I would love to see a video on your favorite memories with some of your favorite watches.
Wow! Really enjoyed this rant. I didn't agree with everything that you said, but that's what made it so interesting. I really felt like saying "but what about...." on more than one occasion. My pet peeves.... Microbrands and crowdfunding.
Hmm, for some of us, a 42mm watch is the right size....all a question of proportion. Styles were very different in the mid-20th century too, small watches were regarded as refined, today they’re regarded as effeminate on a man.....
Great Video TGV! Respect from The UK! But every video since joining watchbox I see you recommending their app... it doesn't work properly I have a galaxy note 9, and it's still keeps on crashing?? Please advise when this will be fixed? Thanks!
Hi, I am new to collecting watches. You spoke about Dan Henry and his history as a watch collector. I ended up purchasing a 1970 from his site. I noticed that the face rattles when I tap on it. Is that normal for a compressor watch or just any automatic watch in general?
Great video. Happy to see Hugo. My complaint on size is the oppozite, sick and tired when a 42mm watches come out people complainig its not 36mm. Keep up the good work.
I agree completely on your point regarding that the old-timer brands aren't reaching out to the younger audience enough. However, I can understand why they aren't at the same time. Because of self-proclaim "influencers", the reason why Daniel Wellington, MVMT, etc. are able to reach out to so many people is that primarily their watches are really cheap to make. The cost for 1 watch is probably $20-50 (including shipping, hiring of types of machinery, etc) and they are selling it at $200-300, therefore, allowing them to give out watches like they are Oprah. The older brands are not able to do that, even if they are able or willing these self-proclaim "influencers" will try to rip them off. With so many recent expose cases of purchased followers, fake reviews, false exposures, etc. the old-timer should not risk getting involved in those problems. Eventually, they will end up "tarnishing" their own brand instead of reaching out to younger generations. In my opinion, what they should do instead is launch cheaper alternative models. They don't have to cost $11,000, or $4,900 it can just be an AP subsidiary selling at $1000-2000, like what Rado, Tissot, Oris, Seiko, Frederique Constant are doing instead. They have higher-end models (I know people will argue that they aren't that high-end, but at least they are bringing younger generation interest towards watches) and they have their lower-end models. People who first enter into the world of watches will appreciate that they are able to get a decent watch for a decent price. A real-life example I can give for companies out there would be how I got a couple of my friends into watches, by showing them that the price of a DW in my country is around $200-300 and I manage to get a deal for a Seiko Cocktail Presage at $400. Immediately, they realize how overpriced are DWs or Fossil watches (fashion watches in general). It takes a comparison to tell people that "hey, don't fall into the trap of fashion watches. There is a bigger world of watches out there, check out my brand". This should be what old-timer should be headed towards. They don't have to necessary charge a large amount of money, just a decent amount of money will definitely help bring interest to the community.
TGV, another masterpiece. I could rant on also about so many things, but you pretty much had it covered. What brought a big smile to my face was the seething anger that was just bubbling under the surface, haha ,I was just waiting for you to explode! But of course a true Gentleman has control. Beautifully done, Regards, CJ.
Wristwatch check: Lorier Neptune II, Fortis on the winder. As you neared number 1, I found myself agreeing more and more! Thanks for another NEEDED video, TGV. Reminds me of the lyric to a great Don McLean tune: "they did not listen; they did not know how. Perhaps they'll listen now." We can only hope! Have a great weekend, sir!
Pet peeve: apple watches. Yes they may have their own corner of horology. But what's so great about a phone on your wrist? People need to put down their phones and enjoy the simpler exquisite things in life. I love listening to the clicking of my seamaster and appreciating the way a mechanical device runs without a battery. We just need to unplug sometimes.
its more convenient, i have an apple watch and i put it on instead of my speedmaster sometimes. i love and appreciate my speedy but the apple watch is the tool watch of the 21st century
As a marketing major, seeing watch brands not promote their products to the younger crowd really peeves me. So tired of cheap and shady brands taking all of the young demographic market share. It wouldn't be difficult either if they revamped their online presence and actually caught up to the 21st century. Lovely video!
Another great video from TGV, a great way to start off the weekend. You should get some kind of plant in your war room. NASA did say plants will purify the air in your house.
I'm waiting for TGV to install either a British R1155 radio receiver or an American National HRO Sr receiver. Hugo would sound rather good emanating from these wonderful units.
My biggest pet peeve is so many brands going along with the oversized watch trends. I see a beautiful watch online or on Instagram that I instantly fall in love with, then get to reading the details, only to find that its like 42mm! Plus I already have skinny wrists, so any watch I wear will automatically look bigger. You should be able to see the band on your wrist and not just the face of the watch. I will never buy into that trend. Its irritating 🤦🏻♂️
It depends, if you have gargantuan wrist, then deffo no. But truthfully, it is still and always will be a DJ. A DJ is classic no matter what the size. IMO 41 is too big, well for me certainly. Thank you sir, love your oats btw, eat them all the time. Best regards, TGV
I can certainly relate to the "AD experience" issue. A while ago on a whim I went in to a boutique of a well known Swiss brand (that shall remain nameless) on Regent St. in London. From the moment I set foot through the door I had the distinct impression that the sales staff immediately decided that I was in some way unworthy to wear their watches and was ignored for the duration of my stay in the building. Went straight to the nearby Omega boutique where I was treated courteously and professionally by a knowledgeable member of staff who was obviously a fellow enthusiast. I now know where my loyalty lays, and where money will be spent.
Pet peeve, people with fake watches that are scared to show you their watch up close or continue conversation about it! Why do that? Have s great weekend Cheers 🥂
My pet peeve about enthusiasts is thinking that you know more about watches than someone else because you know reference numbers, or models off by heart. I'm a good mechanic, and I consider myself a car enthusiast but I don't care about numbers or engine sizes, and quite frankly I don't concern myself with remembering them, but if someone thinks that they know more about cars than me because I don't know the details, I'd have to ask them if they knew how to pull it apart and put it back together...
#1 dimensions, especially height. I gotta know how big or small a watch is before I consider it. #2, height. I don't know why a watch with a 100m water resistance, and a date complication needs to be taller than 11mm. My Seamaster 300m is only about 11mm, and that's a 300 meter watch!
hello there what's the best Diver for under 200€? :) should be automatic and not from Seiko nor Orient as i don't want to get two watches from the same brand yet thank you
The fact that I bought a “luxury” watch with a leather strap. But I can’t go to the company’s website and buy a bracelet for it. And even if I didn’t want a bracelet, most of their straps are always sold out. It’s not just them too, I’ve noticed this with many companies. Just sell your damn products. They also do a terrible job with info. It’s not just one thing. But go to research watches and you probably won’t find at least 1 of: Lug to lug, thickness, AR coating (looking at you Hamilton. Say no AR if there isn’t any), lug width, strap size, power reserve, type of crystal, water resistance, etc, etc. And show more pictures! It’s online shopping people. I also think more brands could offer more customization. I understand they can’t do that for everything. But they could do more. And boy, imagine the first brand who allows customers to custom pick a dial color, type of hands/and color, type of insert, bezel, crown style, crystal, AR, date, day, etc., etc. I understand that would be made to order, take longer to ship, and cost more. But I would be interested. You don’t lose money if nobody orders right? Just don’t make the watch…
#4...for shure. My pet peeve.....not enough videos about watched for bigger guys. Most of the time anything above 39mm gets put down. I love my orient bambino and it looks wondering my wrist. #bigboywatch lol
Not to knock your choice, but I think the point is that even for the 'powerfully built' gentlemen that a mid size watch is still timeless, whereas the inflated sizes are something of a recent trend which, contrary to certain companies releases, appears to be in decline. I'd say go for an aviators watch, or a big armored diver, both are watches that suit the larger form factors, and have historically sat in these sizes.
Well, I don't particularly like big watches, but, they are the style today. I think TGV neglects to mention that all these famous guys wearing 34mm watches and such were from 50 years ago or so. I have slender wrists but, I like my watches to be about 41-42mm. Someone with big wrists would probably do well with 44mm.
Bambino is to small for my 8 inch wrists.. I do like small for me widths like 42mm but I want a longer length that few watches offer. I like to wear watches low so I don't want their width messing with wrist mobility.. My wrist is 8 inches at its thinnest part.
Hi TGV Heh heh...more Hugo, please. The first thing you’re mentioning is probably what irritates me most - boutiques combining snobbery with incompetence. But as you’re also pointing out; they’re probably a dying species as buying on the internet is taking over. It’s sad though if you in the future can’t just slip into a shop and try the watch on... Think you’re right about the example (-Omega, otherwise a truly brilliant company) devaluating a beloved watch by “upgrading” this epic timepiece making too many versions. That goes for the many reissues too, Omega as well as all the others. When it comes to dress watches I have a very simple rule; facing the watch looking at your wrist you should be able to see (-nearly) as much of the strap as of the watch itself. (Hope this makes sense...). It says more about the lug distance than about the diameter, I know, but still. Otherwise the watch should of course be appropriately thin... Keep up the good work👍
Love the Benrus! I also have one and quite like the history behind it. Love the channel, great source of information and inspiration. Keep up the great work TGV!
My pet peeve would have to be watch brands that produce cheap copycat styles of other, usually high-end watch brand styles. Originality is respected and goes a long way.
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I absolutely cannot stand that the majority of websites don’t list the lug to lug measurements!!! That’s important stuff!!!
You just hit on a sore spot! This is so true for so many sites.
Yes. Let's go 1 step further. Watch brands that don't even advertise lug width on their website. You are forced to visit 3rd party reviews to find back which strap sizes to buy
Not only! They don't ever list tip to tip measurements, a very very important specification, IMHO .
Or bracelet lengths and measurements in centimeters.
Web sites that don’t show the clasp on bracelets or have multiple images of the watch
Rolex's new tagline:
No you can't buy our watches. You can't even find them on our website.
My wife said I could have anything I wanted for my birthday , tried to buy steel GMT BLNR, after being insulted by 3 AD's because I am dumb enough to want to spend $9K at their establishment but apparently you cant buy a rolex unless you already bought a rolex, anyway F those guys ...
Rolex is playing the DeBeers game of withholding stock to artificially pump the market. Rolex are way overpriced for what they are. Seiko movements blow them away and are way cheaper. Grand Seiko is the most innovative analog automatic watch movement to exist at this point making Rolex obsolete and just a piece of antiquated jewellery.
I feel like Rolex exists mostly to be faked, if you get me.
@@pentachronic Ferrari does the same they inflate the price artificialy
Everyone: goes to Casio, Seiko, Citizen, ect instead
Rolex: huh, strange, our market share is drying up...
Omg so many times I've fallen in love with a watch and then lost all hope in it upon seeing the size of the bloody thing
It happened to me with the Bulova Lunar Pilot 🤷♀️🤷♀️😔
@@angelgarza4410 Lunar Pilot actually looks way smaller than on a paper.
A Urban Gentry Video a day keeps the Watch-snob away. Always a good time, keep it up👍🏼
Allan B wait, TGV isn’t the watch snob?
TGV’s no snob. But I seriously doubt you’ll ever see an FW 91 on Hugo’s wrist.
Haha ^ watch snob exposed!
My peeve is people downplaying the size of every watch. If everything "wears small" then nothing does.
Good insight.
My pet peeve is when the second hand dont line up with the second/minute indicator lines on quartz watches.
Deffo poor QC, totally agree!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Yeah. This is a major turn off on any watch.
HorrorMirror Drives me nuts as well! Conversely, there’s something soothing and meditative about watching that second hand meet its mark precisely. This is even-more-so-the-case when it’s a quartz watch.
Same here. I can't stand when the minute hand doesn't hit the marker when the second hand hits 12 o'clock either. Hacking seconds are pretty much a requirement for me in a mechanical.
CrimFerret This is actually a problem with nearly any mechanical watch. You really have to line up the minute hand perfectly when you hack it at 12. On GMTs like my BLNR using the quick set hour hand can actually change the alignment depending on how you originally adjusted the time. It can move the minute hand forwards when quick setting the hour forward and backwards if quick setting backwards. Of course only OCD folks like me notice or care.
The Daytona tends to line up perfectly out of all of the Rolex sports for some reason. Very easy to get it perfect.
My pet peeve is having to get a watch serviced and having to send it out into the world all on it's own, not knowing if it'll make it back.
Not to mention the amount of time that factory service can take. The price charged is already an issue a lot of the time, but how can the watchmakers justify a 6 month or even longer wait when they presumably have all the parts they'd need at their fingertips?
Go to a small watchmaker. Yes you don't have the warranty of the manufacture, but well, i needed to service two watches two years ago and the independant watchmaker did it in two weeks (not 4 month like omega or Zenith) for 80€ or something each one.
@@ald4104 I guess as long as it's not something so exotic that it would be hard for anyone but the factory to service, this sort of makes sense, especially if you never plan to sell the watch anyway. With Omega having a 5 year warranty, I'd probably consider just buying a fairly late model pre-owned with 4 or so years left and sell it when it got down to 6 months or so, wash and repeat. Never have to worry about servicing and what little I might lose would probably be less than the cost of a factory service.
I totally agree. I feel like warranties are next to worthless. I once chipped the glass on my watch. My AD sent it in to be replaced and it took 6 months. Frankly, I would have been better off having it done myself. My local watchmaker had the crystal on hand and would have done it that day.
At least when you get your Porsche serviced they provide you with a loan vehicle.
Pet peev: when someone says you dont need a watch thats what you have a phone for.
Millennials!! What do you expect from this sad generation. Lol
Phone batteries die faster then a watch. I trust a watch more with time.
Couldnt agree more.
A phone is disposable. A good watch you can wear a lifetime.
Exactly, I have a friend who made a comment to my other friend regarding his watch, "Watches are for fashion right?" From what I understand from his statement and the tone of his voice, that there's no need to wear one since phones exist. Needless to say, I lost respect after hearing that crap lol
That is how a rant video should be done! Reasoned, and salient points without the dramatic wild gesticulations and F bombs. Subscribed!
Dear TGV, thanks for the great mention. See you soon.
Team FORTIS
Proud owner of a handful of vintage True Lines and Eden Rocs here 🙂
Recently I had a battery in my Wenger replaced at Batteries &Bulbs +. I live in a small town in Florida, originally from Orlando, and there's not a lot of places that replace watch batteries here and they are closest. The first thing I noticed when talking to the guy was that he was wearing a Breitling B1. Very uncommon around here. I wound up having a good long conversation about watches and aviation with him and he didn't even charge me for the battery. I used to be in the pawn business my family has been in the jewelry business and I know a little bit about watches and was very impressed with his knowledge. I've known guys in the business that don't know as much as a guy at Batteries Plus. He also told me about a watch maker locally that I never knew about. An all around great experience.
I have had most of my watch batteries changed out at my local Interstate Battery retail store. Friendly people and reasonable prices and they will handle any watch with care. Walk in service as well.
Batteries Plus also has a lifetime replacement option. For about twice the price of a single battery change, you can get free batteries for life on that watch. I won’t choose that option for a Casio, but the next time my Hamilton quartz needs a battery, I’m going for the lifetime plan. I’m glad to hear you had such a good experience.
Your intros have become so amazingly hilarious TGV!
T has the best intros in the business.
Wearing small and wearing well is different.
Plus a watch can wear small on onewrist but not the other.
I like the Oris Aquis, it is the smallest 43.5 I have ever had on my hand, but when a friend of mine tried it on it looked massive.
And we have roughly the same circumference wrists, but they are pretty different in shape.
Personal pet peeve is watch manufacturers whose MSRP is 3x the street price from an AD.
X6 I see alot haha
Invicta haha
Of all the notifications I get, the only ones I truly get excited at seeing are the ones saying The Urban Gentry has posted a new video. Thank you for all you do and for making me an avid lover of watches!
I’m delighted Hugo made it to Philly too!
I must agree with number 10 completely. Living in New York City I've had my share of all of that nonsense and more. I no longer wear a watch when I go to an A.D. I notice it throws them off a bit as it leaves them without a way to pre judge your budget or your taste. I also have no problem walking right out the door if I'm ignored for more than a few minutes. Too many options in a city like this to deal with unacceptable behavior when I'm trying to give the store my money.
Excellent video TGV, exquisitely on point. 100% with you on this.
Marc Riches He has a perfect view on the watchindustrie and us as enthusiasts and consumers
First time I tried on a smaller vintage watch I have to say initially I was far from convinced at the size. But I kept with it and now I love wearing smaller watches in particular dress watches. My fav watch at the moment (as I've mentioned) is my vintage Ricoh watch. I find it incredible (and quite annoying) that Ricoh themselves make no mention on their corporate history website anything about watches, which is sad and as mentioned, quite a bit annoying! Great video as always sir 👍
"Celebrity does not impress me"
Preach!
Your film skills and comedic touches are really top tier, TGV. Please don't stop
Really top-notch production skills!
Hugo is such a snob! How can you bear him TGV?! You'd think he'd be more humble having those little arms. :)
100% with you on faux patina.
Much prefer it to be fresh as brand new. The whole point of patina is that it tells a story. You cant tell a story straight out the factory!
Actually, I like the dash of color it gives to the Omega Railmaster and Seamaster Coaxial Master. When I first saw it, I didn't realize it was supposed to be patina, it's done so dark!
Paying for faux patina is like spending premium money for clothing damaged ("distressed") at the factory. Used to be you paid less for seconds, not more.
Hi TGV, Great video and especially loved the story about the Breguet watchmaker. I would expect no less from you. Enjoy your weekend. Regards, John
Pet peeve #11 - JDM and other geographically-restricted watch releases!
Ten great points about the current watch world. I can't stand websites with an absurd lack of information about the products they're selling.
Say hi to Hugo for me, and I'll be looking forward to the next one.
Regards,
Koen
Hi Koen ‘88. I couldn’t agree with you more. What is so difficult about providing the basic information consumers need to make informed decisions as to whether or not to purchase a particular watch. Websites that don’t provide this info totally baffle me. Your comment is spot on!
TGV: "or they where born with DuckTales money"
ME: Dontdoitdontdoitdont.... "Life is like a hurricane here in DUCK BURG!"
Golly gumdrops, Hugo makes all other celebrities look common as muck.
great video! the entire watch industry owes you a debt of gratitude. quick story about #1. i was in a watch store on a cruise ship recently and the sales woman was showing me a tissot or a tag and she tells me " it has a swiss quartz movement. " so i ask if it was a Rhonda . and she says " no its a swiss quartz movement and started pushing the store credit card on me . needless to say she didn't make the sale.
A big pet peeve of mine goes against this top 10 and it’s knocking larger watches. Just because your 6” wrist can’t handle a 42mm Sea Master Pro doesn’t mean it’s a bad watch or deserving of ridicule. For every 41mm+ watch a small wrist can’t pull off there are 3 or more 36mm watches that an 8” would look ridiculous wearing. Focus more on craftsmanship and less on diameter
Agree wholeheartedly
Well said.
I was thinking exactly the same thing until what he said at the end, which reminded me another of his videos where he also said it: that one should wear a watch according to ones wrist size. For him, a 42mm would look hugemongous. He does comes out as if he were angree at big sizes without thinking of big people, and as far as I can remember he hasn't make the example viceversa, that huge guys shouldn't wear little tiny watches. I just can't imagine The Mountain actor from Games of Thrones wearing a 36mm datejust. For me, at 5'10", I draw my limits at 36mm and 42mm, though my Panerai I think is 44mm but due to the design I guess, it doesn't feel as big. TGV, if you are reading this, you say you are skinny but how tall are you? I cannot believe that watch you were wearing is 34mm, it looks like a ~40mm on you. Good vid and funny as always.
My pet peeve is brand not listing base movement information on the website. Just tell us if it’s ETA 2824, Sellita SW500, or whatever
Or a cheap DGxxxx Tianjing ^^
Omega Speedmaster is diluting the brand. There are some many Speedmaster LE or SE that I can not even keep track.
You buy all of them? I bought the 1969 145022 and 1967 145012. Both are very nice. Do I care about the LE, does it dilute my 321 ? Not to me...
agreed it's got ridiculous at this point
My pet peeves are...
-Quartz bashing
-auto bashing
-42mm watch size bashing (that isn’t remotely large for people 6ft+)
-38mm watch bashing (that isn’t remotely small for people 6ft-)
Honestly if you like it and it either
A.) doesn’t overhang your wrist or
B.) isn’t sub 30mm
I’ve got no complaints
I like faux patina but of course it's much more preferable to have the real thing.
My pet peeve is being told i have enough watches by my significant other.
My pet peeve: Waitlists!
For the Rolex Skydweller blue dial, I was quoted a 10 year wait!
Whaaaaat?!?! That is insane, SHM.
Thank you for sharing that,
Best regards,
TGV
Muaz Ahmed “a 10 year wait list” is Rolex AD speak for FO! I’ll take it a step further, THERE ARE NO WAIT LISTS except for high spending regular customers, celebrities, politicians and people with great influence (like your local dick news anchor) #justsayin
@@bonzerrrrr lol, yeah I sort of figured that's what they were trying to say. I figure they have a reserve of watches in the back not on display for a - premium repeat customer...
I can only imagine how an invicta "russian diver" would look on a t-rex
Very good video
😂😂😂
I dont think Brick & Mortar will die...
I think it will shift from a sales point to a location where you can “experience the brand”.
Number 3 really hits home for me. Better bracelets and hacking! Some high-end model still lack hacking and it really bothers me!
The main thing that irks me in the watch enthusiast scene is the mobs of snobs!! Watch snobbery is so crazy and most of the snobby people I have met will always swear they aren't snobs while looking down their nose at you.
Thats what I appreciate about Urban Gentry. Never any snobbery and real critique of the products instead of only focusing on brand name. No brand is safe from the truth. Every watch has its place no matter how good or bad because one mans trash may be the next mans treasure.
The lack of watch service in store, all seem to want to send it away for a minimum of four weeks, then you find yourself chasing the watch up, and no one seems to care when I'll get it back.
I loved this video! I agree with all ten!! One thing that drives me nuts is when some people do not adjust the bracelet at all!! Like the watch is about to fall off over the hand. Ridiculous!!
You mentioned the devaluing of the speedmaster gravitas, I’m completely with you there. I don’t even think of SMs anymore all my fantasizing about space watches is the Bulova accutron Astronaut, I really need to just settle on one before they get expensive. PS. PLEASE do not do a video on the Astronaut, the prices will double over night at least let me buy mine first!
I do like that shirt your wearing TGV .A touch of class with the pilot style flaps .
What make is it ?
My biggest pet pev is actually people who know nothing about wristwatches and buy them (Rolex above all) just to show off. Unfortunately, they make the market.
Also, I totally agree with you, especially with the oversize dress watch trend. I do value brands like Longines that keep on making them in traditional sizes.
You are simply the benchmark , when it comes to watch reviewing . As the son of a master watchmaker , I can only profess respect and admiration for you . Blessings , TGV .
Companies not wanting me to buy their products such as Rolex/Tudor, Mercedes and Gilette.
Pet peeve about watch enthusiasts: a collection that has no surprises, nothing but the usual icons (Rolex Sub, Omega Speedmaster, etc). Collect what you love, sure, but dare to be different!
18mm nato straps on a 19mm lug width watch, or even worse 19mm nato straps on a 20mm lug width watch, I'M LOOKING AT YOU TUDOR
THATS A THING? LOL
Bond, James Bond, innit. :D
#10 is spot on. Once I entered an official omega store to ask for the speedy reduced maintenance information. The staff were plain rude and wouldn't want to attend to my inquiries, on the prejudice that I wasn't a legitimate customer that would drop money on the spot.
I'd write an email to the store complaining and cc it to omega head office
IWC is a perfect example of getting people into watches. Just saw alot of people talking/asking about the IWC Lewis Hamilton was wearing. IWC responded in seconds which is just amazing.
Watches that don't come to Australia. You can't even buy an SKX here. Jewelers here charge $450 for Seiko 5's.
Import my dear friend. :)
(That's the only way I could get my watch)
@@mdem5059 Same Orient Triton and Seiko SARK007. Paid less for the Triton than a Seiko 5 here. Just sux having to buy through the grey market and not being able to try a watch on.
Ouch!
@Michael L Yes I know what you are saying and that is fine for a $200 watch but when it's a $2000 watch it would be nice to try it on and have a factory warranty.
The rationale behind pin and collar bracelets isn't to cut costs but to produce a bracelet that is flexible but doesn't rattle so much.
Completely agree with you TGV. I feel like a lot of brands don't disclose all the information of the watches, like the movement, dimensions, etc. Another thing is that they don't listen in my opinion to the consumer and rather make a profit of the scarcity of their watches. The Patek Philippe Nautilus in steel is one that comes to mind.
Great video as always tgv! I’m curious have you ever owned or reviewed a white dial field watch? I am eyeing a Hamilton khaki white dial but am unsure. Thoughts? Much love from the Midwest!
Great question. Truth is, no! I did cover white dial but never field. As for the Hammy, that would be my first choice too.
I would not be unsure my friend, they are kings of that genre, go for it and enjoy!
Life is too short my friend, thank you Ryan,
Best regards,
TGV
I just purchased a white dial “orient flight”. It is the type “b” flieger style, i put a nato khaki colored strap and it feels very much like a field watch for about $80. I too will someday get a hammy khaki as i’ve always wanted a hamilton watch.
#5 thank you.ive always appreciated your honesty when it comes to a watch review.its helped me make an educated decision when choosing a watch rather than being caught up with the hype.great insight.
Good work fella.
I just recently reignited my passion for watches. I started with a one month subscription to a watch service. Then I started watching videos online and realized I can myself create my own masterful superb customized collection. It was then with the help of yourself, and a few of your select RUclips colleagues I now in two months have 20 watches back into my personal collection! And more to come, I collect, I am not a flipper. I am pretty much a minimalist except for the few things I collect passionately. Hats, sneakers, art, books, and now once again watches. I want to thank you especially because you are a scholar and a gentleman, pure class and honesty in all your reviews. My wife is constantly laughing now because your voice, or Fredrico's, or a few others are always playing in the background. To qoute Jody I am doing research with the Gentry because I am looking for Just One More Watch! And my huge pet peeves are watch snobbery and brand haters. I judge each piece on it's own merits just like I do people. Hope to meet you one day sir and shake your hand. You are appreciated here in Brooklyn.
My peeve is Swatch group brands taking affordable 4hz movements like the ETA2804 out of the cheaper watches and putting them in more expensive watches. That may be a very specific peeve, but a lot of people choose entry level Swiss watches over Japanese watches because they like the smooth 4hz sweeping hands that Japanese companies just don't offer for less than a thousand dollars. Now the Swiss don't either.
I have 8 and a half inch wrists and I really can't go for smaller watches... Though my exception to this is tank style watches. I seem to be relatively happy with smaller tank watches, with their elegance and sophistication. Though you have convinced me that 41 is going to work for me...
I have watches almost as large. Sport and tool watches pretty much have to be at least 42mm for me. I'm good with dress watches between 38-40ish. I mean I could probably wear that Lange fine, but I see his point.
G'day TGV!
New fan from Aus. Great quality channel! Will you ever make a video about pocket watches?
Thanks 👍🏻
My pet peeves:
-The endless march towards oversized watches to the point that the average, non-obese, non-roid fuelled body builder, type man has a watch that is almost as wide as his wrist. This is not comfortable nor classy, and I believe one day it is going to be viewed as oversized clothing in the 90s is viewed today: excessive and silly. I would not want to invest serious money into a very expensive watch with the justification that it is "forever", only to find out in a few years time that it is out of fashion.
-In house movements which can only be serviced in a place like Switzerland at exhorbidant cost and long waits.
-Squared off tips on the hands of Rolex DJ. I prefer pointed, so I know what I am pointing at.
-A lack of color options from Rolex.
-A complete lack of Rolexes.
-A complete distain for new technology from the high end market. Does every very expensive watch have to have a mechanical movement?
-Prices on watches (most over $2000) which cannot possibly justify the cost except for vague intangibles having nothing to do with quality or performance. That also includes such a common metal such as steel.
Old school TGV and an awesome intro - thank you!
Watch brands, listen to this man. He speaks for the people!
I genuinely thought I was the only one who could not find the appeal of faux patina. It looks jarring in a pristine case
I like the dash of color it gives the Omega Seamaster Coax because I honestly did not realize it was supposed to be patina. It never occurred to me that someone would actually do that on purpose.
#10 hit me right out of the box, because I remember a few years ago the battery had been knocked loose on my Timex Easy Reader (I'm assuming, I don't actually know what it is). My grandma had gotten it for me for Christmas a year or two earlier because I wanted a very simple analog watch for my crappy retail job so that I could check the time without being yelled at. I knew absolutely nothing about watches at that time, but I knew I didn't have the tools to get the case open and shut again to figure out what was wrong with my watch so I decided to go visit a local jeweler's after work one day. Turns out the only jeweler I know of is this really high-end boutique and primarily a Rolex dealership. The day of the week that I showed up they were actually open by appointment only but the guard let me in anyway. They let me, some 20-year-old kid, bum around in my Jewel Osco uniform, gawking at Yachtmasters while their Rolex tech fixed my banged-up $50 Timex. They gave me a whole new battery and a strap to replace the original one which was already falling apart because of how hard I used that watch.
I love this! I honestly don't like limited edition at all. Everyone should have the same opportunities. Rather than having to purchase it later at 3x the cost. I would love to see a video on your favorite memories with some of your favorite watches.
Wow! Really enjoyed this rant. I didn't agree with everything that you said, but that's what made it so interesting. I really felt like saying "but what about...." on more than one occasion.
My pet peeves.... Microbrands and crowdfunding.
Hmm, for some of us, a 42mm watch is the right size....all a question of proportion. Styles were very different in the mid-20th century too, small watches were regarded as refined, today they’re regarded as effeminate on a man.....
Great Video TGV! Respect from The UK! But every video since joining watchbox I see you recommending their app... it doesn't work properly I have a galaxy note 9, and it's still keeps on crashing?? Please advise when this will be fixed? Thanks!
Hi, I am new to collecting watches. You spoke about Dan Henry and his history as a watch collector. I ended up purchasing a 1970 from his site. I noticed that the face rattles when I tap on it. Is that normal for a compressor watch or just any automatic watch in general?
How about the big R AD's only selling popular models to VIP aka people who spend 100K at their store.
Great video. Happy to see Hugo. My complaint on size is the oppozite, sick and tired when a 42mm watches come out people complainig its not 36mm. Keep up the good work.
Exactly. I have 8 and a half inch wrists, and I'm rather not interested in anything under 41mm.
I agree completely on your point regarding that the old-timer brands aren't reaching out to the younger audience enough. However, I can understand why they aren't at the same time. Because of self-proclaim "influencers", the reason why Daniel Wellington, MVMT, etc. are able to reach out to so many people is that primarily their watches are really cheap to make. The cost for 1 watch is probably $20-50 (including shipping, hiring of types of machinery, etc) and they are selling it at $200-300, therefore, allowing them to give out watches like they are Oprah. The older brands are not able to do that, even if they are able or willing these self-proclaim "influencers" will try to rip them off. With so many recent expose cases of purchased followers, fake reviews, false exposures, etc. the old-timer should not risk getting involved in those problems. Eventually, they will end up "tarnishing" their own brand instead of reaching out to younger generations.
In my opinion, what they should do instead is launch cheaper alternative models. They don't have to cost $11,000, or $4,900 it can just be an AP subsidiary selling at $1000-2000, like what Rado, Tissot, Oris, Seiko, Frederique Constant are doing instead. They have higher-end models (I know people will argue that they aren't that high-end, but at least they are bringing younger generation interest towards watches) and they have their lower-end models. People who first enter into the world of watches will appreciate that they are able to get a decent watch for a decent price.
A real-life example I can give for companies out there would be how I got a couple of my friends into watches, by showing them that the price of a DW in my country is around $200-300 and I manage to get a deal for a Seiko Cocktail Presage at $400. Immediately, they realize how overpriced are DWs or Fossil watches (fashion watches in general). It takes a comparison to tell people that "hey, don't fall into the trap of fashion watches. There is a bigger world of watches out there, check out my brand". This should be what old-timer should be headed towards. They don't have to necessary charge a large amount of money, just a decent amount of money will definitely help bring interest to the community.
TGV, another masterpiece. I could rant on also about so many things, but you pretty much had it covered.
What brought a big smile to my face was the seething anger that was just bubbling under the surface, haha ,I was just waiting for you to explode!
But of course a true Gentleman has control. Beautifully done, Regards, CJ.
11:00 There's no proper Journalism in any industry anymore.
Excellent product... thanks for taking the time to make it. And to think, it’s all for free.
I deeply appreciate that John.
Thank you sir.
Onwards and upwards!
Best regards,
TGV
Wristwatch check: Lorier Neptune II, Fortis on the winder. As you neared number 1, I found myself agreeing more and more! Thanks for another NEEDED video, TGV. Reminds me of the lyric to a great Don McLean tune: "they did not listen; they did not know how. Perhaps they'll listen now." We can only hope! Have a great weekend, sir!
Number 5: it's why you are the only one who reviews watches that I listen to, you're the only voice I trust.
“It’s called good breeding, dear boy.” 😂😂
Jesse Rodriguez I don’t get it😬
Pet peeve: apple watches. Yes they may have their own corner of horology. But what's so great about a phone on your wrist? People need to put down their phones and enjoy the simpler exquisite things in life. I love listening to the clicking of my seamaster and appreciating the way a mechanical device runs without a battery. We just need to unplug sometimes.
its more convenient, i have an apple watch and i put it on instead of my speedmaster sometimes. i love and appreciate my speedy but the apple watch is the tool watch of the 21st century
TGV an excellent blog, you raised some interesting and important questions concerning the watch industry today. Keep up the good work.
As a marketing major, seeing watch brands not promote their products to the younger crowd really peeves me. So tired of cheap and shady brands taking all of the young demographic market share. It wouldn't be difficult either if they revamped their online presence and actually caught up to the 21st century. Lovely video!
Another great video from TGV, a great way to start off the weekend.
You should get some kind of plant in your war room. NASA did say plants will purify the air in your house.
I'm waiting for TGV to install either a British R1155 radio receiver or an American National HRO Sr receiver. Hugo would sound rather good emanating from these wonderful units.
I love the little dinosaur dude! He's brilliant!
My biggest pet peeve is so many brands going along with the oversized watch trends. I see a beautiful watch online or on Instagram that I instantly fall in love with, then get to reading the details, only to find that its like 42mm! Plus I already have skinny wrists, so any watch I wear will automatically look bigger. You should be able to see the band on your wrist and not just the face of the watch. I will never buy into that trend. Its irritating 🤦🏻♂️
Well Done TGV. Things I've thought about in passing but never all together at once. You are the Man.
Do you think the Datejust 41 is too big to be a future classic?
It depends, if you have gargantuan wrist, then deffo no.
But truthfully, it is still and always will be a DJ.
A DJ is classic no matter what the size. IMO 41 is too big, well for me certainly.
Thank you sir, love your oats btw, eat them all the time.
Best regards,
TGV
I have large wrists and that would fit me just fine. I think it will hold it's value just fine, but it would appeal to a lot more people at 39mm.
Pet peeve- People wearing watches too loosely! Jingle jangle.
Tell 'em to pull up their pants
Man, I laughed so much during your intro. I have no idea how you designed the entire episode with the small T Rex. Please, invite him again. Thanks
I can certainly relate to the "AD experience" issue. A while ago on a whim I went in to a boutique of a well known Swiss brand (that shall remain nameless) on Regent St. in London. From the moment I set foot through the door I had the distinct impression that the sales staff immediately decided that I was in some way unworthy to wear their watches and was ignored for the duration of my stay in the building. Went straight to the nearby Omega boutique where I was treated courteously and professionally by a knowledgeable member of staff who was obviously a fellow enthusiast. I now know where my loyalty lays, and where money will be spent.
Pet peeve, people with fake watches that are scared to show you their watch up close or continue conversation about it! Why do that?
Have s great weekend
Cheers 🥂
I've never met anyone actually like that.
What happens when faux patina patinas?
It turns white.
My pet peeve about enthusiasts is thinking that you know more about watches than someone else because you know reference numbers, or models off by heart.
I'm a good mechanic, and I consider myself a car enthusiast but I don't care about numbers or engine sizes, and quite frankly I don't concern myself with remembering them, but if someone thinks that they know more about cars than me because I don't know the details, I'd have to ask them if they knew how to pull it apart and put it back together...
Word for word, I pretty much agree with every single point throughout the video. Thanks!
#1 dimensions, especially height. I gotta know how big or small a watch is before I consider it. #2, height. I don't know why a watch with a 100m water resistance, and a date complication needs to be taller than 11mm. My Seamaster 300m is only about 11mm, and that's a 300 meter watch!
hello there
what's the best Diver for under 200€? :)
should be automatic and not from Seiko nor Orient as i don't want to get two watches from the same brand yet
thank you
Deffo covered that to death, have a loo at the archives, tons to chose from, enjoy the hunt!
Thank you,
Best regards,
TGV
Phoibos or Spinnaker I guess. Honestly you’re ignoring the best options
thank all of you so much
Aiden Bradley KWOK - I agree, the NY004 and NY008 Divers are very good Divers, and excellent value for money.
@Aiden Bradley KWOK Good luck finding one, though.
Thank you! I am so over trying to find smaller watches for our male clients! It's ridiculous the size of watches right now.
Some of the modern watches can be used as on-wrist drinks trays. Ridiculous.
The fact that I bought a “luxury” watch with a leather strap. But I can’t go to the company’s website and buy a bracelet for it. And even if I didn’t want a bracelet, most of their straps are always sold out. It’s not just them too, I’ve noticed this with many companies. Just sell your damn products.
They also do a terrible job with info. It’s not just one thing. But go to research watches and you probably won’t find at least 1 of: Lug to lug, thickness, AR coating (looking at you Hamilton. Say no AR if there isn’t any), lug width, strap size, power reserve, type of crystal, water resistance, etc, etc.
And show more pictures! It’s online shopping people.
I also think more brands could offer more customization. I understand they can’t do that for everything. But they could do more.
And boy, imagine the first brand who allows customers to custom pick a dial color, type of hands/and color, type of insert, bezel, crown style, crystal, AR, date, day, etc., etc. I understand that would be made to order, take longer to ship, and cost more. But I would be interested. You don’t lose money if nobody orders right? Just don’t make the watch…
#4...for shure.
My pet peeve.....not enough videos about watched for bigger guys. Most of the time anything above 39mm gets put down. I love my orient bambino and it looks wondering my wrist. #bigboywatch lol
Not to knock your choice, but I think the point is that even for the 'powerfully built' gentlemen that a mid size watch is still timeless, whereas the inflated sizes are something of a recent trend which, contrary to certain companies releases, appears to be in decline.
I'd say go for an aviators watch, or a big armored diver, both are watches that suit the larger form factors, and have historically sat in these sizes.
Well, I don't particularly like big watches, but, they are the style today. I think TGV neglects to mention that all these famous guys wearing 34mm watches and such were from 50 years ago or so. I have slender wrists but, I like my watches to be about 41-42mm. Someone with big wrists would probably do well with 44mm.
Bambino is to small for my 8 inch wrists..
I do like small for me widths like 42mm but I want a longer length that few watches offer.
I like to wear watches low so I don't want their width messing with wrist mobility..
My wrist is 8 inches at its thinnest part.
Thanks for the feedback ya'll!!!
Hi TGV
Heh heh...more Hugo, please.
The first thing you’re mentioning is probably what irritates me most - boutiques combining snobbery with incompetence. But as you’re also pointing out; they’re probably a dying species as buying on the internet is taking over. It’s sad though if you in the future can’t just slip into a shop and try the watch on...
Think you’re right about the example (-Omega, otherwise a truly brilliant company) devaluating a beloved watch by “upgrading” this epic timepiece making too many versions. That goes for the many reissues too, Omega as well as all the others.
When it comes to dress watches I have a very simple rule; facing the watch looking at your wrist you should be able to see (-nearly) as much of the strap as of the watch itself. (Hope this makes sense...). It says more about the lug distance than about the diameter, I know, but still. Otherwise the watch should of course be appropriately thin...
Keep up the good work👍
Love the Benrus! I also have one and quite like the history behind it. Love the channel, great source of information and inspiration. Keep up the great work TGV!
My pet peeve would have to be watch brands that produce cheap copycat styles of other, usually high-end watch brand styles. Originality is respected and goes a long way.