3D Printer? Laser? No, a CNC Machine! Snapmaker 2.0 Test
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
- Snapmaker is such an awesome tool! It can 3D print, it can laser and it can CNC mill (even in aluminium!). Let's find out how good it is and what kind of projects you can make with it :)
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0:00 -Unboxing/Assembly
3:30 - 3D Printer
7:22 - Laser
11:47 - CNC
17:18 - Conclusions
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Merry Christmas everyone! This started as just yet another review video but every time I got to use this machine and it's software I honestly started to like it even more! It's definitely a great addition to my workshop and I can't wait to use it for some of my new projects (feel free to share your own projects ideas in the comments :))
I will do my best to make one more video this year, about *guess the title* :)
Feel free to leave questions in the comments, I will try to answer every single one and help!
Have a nice day!
Merry Christmas to you too! 🎄
Merry Christmas.
The machine is surprisingly bad in almost any of the tasks for that price. I really don't understand your excitement about that thing. It can't do anything really good, it takes lot of time to switch to different tssks and it's extremely expensive. An abomination with no real practical use.
Hello friend,
I am a product designer from London and want to print some prototypes. Here it is very expensive and I am limited with funds. Do you think you can help me? My idea is that I send you my file and you print and send me the prototype and I will pay for your service. My products are very simple shapes, so nothing complicated. Let me know if you are interested, we can exchange emails!
Sorry I posted this comment twice!
@NikodemBartnik
Hello nice video and great editing
I'm curious to know can I use the snapmaker to machine PCBs?
Please help me complete my self winding clock ro charge cellphones
I should be able to ask people where i live but they only steal they wont do a job
Please help ne complete my project
Finally someone who tries milling aluminium on the Snapmaker so i dont have to destroy mine
I just started building mine and got scared by the comments on some people about it failing.. your review is great and I can't wait to get mine started!
Amazing work!! And this machine looks pretty impressive.
Thank you very much for this Video : )
I hope the Tools still get better in Performance and Quality
Amazing machine thanks for share
Thank you for your informative video. It’s not too long but lots of info!
You did an amazing job, Congrats
Thanks. Yeah, I can see this a great fit for someone with limited workspace.
Hey, Merry Christmas to you too!
It's a great toy, but not really practical. The guy did a great review. The performance is mediocre for all three components.
Good review but you should really use a different end mill for mdf. If you use end mills with a steeper angle or even straight cut or down cut end mills you will get far better results with much less torn upper corners. Ive built my own Cnc after being inspired by you and I´ve experimentet with a lot of cutters and it makes a huge difference. I really hope, you´ll revisit this topic and that this comment helps you.
Thank you for the video, it is an excellent machine. I, as I'm sure many others would, would appreciate additional details on each process, due to the special nature of the product. I had trouble finding out what software I needed to transform files to be able to use them, and what processes are required. Finding out how to draw up my own designs and load them correctly to the machine. And machine settings, and any other ideas.
Thank you again!
Tx, USA
I'm a year late, but like what I see. You give me all kinds of ideas. Here are 2 of them.
1. Put paper mache all over the T-Rex head, then paint it for a cool finish.
2. Use flat lead weights to weigh down/counter-balance the piece and to keep it stable.
Thanks for making this video.
Thanks for the insight. I think I will save up for independant cnc and laser cutting setups with more realistic commercial bed diameters. I want to make inlayed woodworking so this is way to small for what I need.
Great job, Nikodem. Thx.
Thanks!
Hi, once you finish your design in Fusion 360 can you send it directly to printer or you have to go through providing software?
Love the review. Though, it seems like the laser was a little too high/out of focus. Not sure but it seemed like the lines were too thick?
Good review
Love the moderation! It really carried me through the whole video. Also thanks for removing loud machine noises.
Any changes in your thoughts for snapmaker 2.0? Postive or Negative
is magnetic. - best vid of the snapmaker i watched so far. thanks
Hej, thx for the video. Do you think, that it would be possible, to cut a vinyl (LP) with this CNC machine? Thx.
Snapmaker is my dream! Gonna get it one day :)
Don't.
I paid for one almost a year ago and I still have to dream about getting one. The company can't fulfill orders.
So will you be designing a laser add on for the Indy mill? That would be quite cool!
What kind of wood are you using? Also Do you know if there is a list of woods that can be used with the Snapmaker?
Thank you.
Waaauuw.. Do you have a link for the t-rex?
So you can CNC aluminum. What were your cutting speeds for cutting aluminum?
Can't wait for the powerful laser add-on.
Hi Niko!
Would you recommend this (or any other brand) for milling sandstone?
Thanks and greetings from California.
Very nice video. I just got a snapmaker 2.0 A350T. Actually got it off of eBay from someone who had no idea what they were doing, damaged it, needed stepper motors, etc. Probably had no idea how to use any design software and probably damaged it by not using the slicer correctly. Anyway, shockingly I grabbed it for $250 for a machine worth $1500 or so and I needed only $150 in parts to get it back in action. I'm mostly into 3D Printing and I mostly use a LulzBot TAZ 5. But for this I'm going to experiment with CNC, so I liked your video. Question. I see you put a support platform between the Snapmaker supplied scrap board and the wood material you are cutting. Obviously I can 3D print one. Did you build that and, if so, did you build it via 3D Printed PLA or did you mill it with the CNC? Just curious as I do see that, eventually, the scrap board will get etched so would be nice to have some kind of throw away and reprint that gap piece between the scrap board and the material that is being cut.
thank you for all your explanations! too bad the laser cutting is not more powerful, that would be perfect. Is it possible to cut rubber and leather with this machine?
nice! I really like testing limits of machines, only question is, will you mill steel on indymill? 😁
Pls no, lol
Znasz jakieś fajne gotowe podwozia do zbudowania czołgu? Mieszkam w bloku, brak warsztatu nie mam jak zbudować
I just got mine so I can’t wait to set it up and start printing. Did you use an aluminum CNC bit? And what speed did you use.
that was a single flute 2mm milling bit. Depth of cut 0.1mm and feedrate 600mm/min
Good Tutorial.
Thanks!
For someone with limited space its a good choice.
No, it is not. Simply because the requirements for CNC are opposite of the requirements for 3D printer and laser engraver. For CNC your want solid, sturdy construction capable of dealing with loads. Consequently, you cannot move it rapidly, which is what you want from 3D printer or laser engraver.
As a rule, combing several functions into one tool is not a good idea. You get something that WILL do all of them, but not very good.
It's a toy, not a serious tool. For this money I would buy a good 3D printer an a laser unit that can be installed instead of the printer head. As for the CNC, I would buy it separately. Or, even better, build one myself. Oh, yeah. The limited space argument. Unless you live in a closet, it's no argument.
What settings did you use when milling aluminum the second time?
Amazing👍
Is it possible to screw laser table on the CNC table? It will short time of change a little.
Isn't it a shame about money? I didn't translate the whole video. Is it possible to sponsor the presentation of such a product by that company? How? Good video. You're a great guy.
Thanks for the video. Have you been able to produce a grayscale image on wood that looks anything like the image in the Edit part of Luban? Thank you.
Haven't tried that but it should be easily possible (with proper settings) but will take a lot of time
Good review. Though, I think this has solidified that I'd rather dedicated machines for each function.
I kind of agree with you there, but a separate machine for each would likely cost a lot more than the SnapMaker does. I think this is a good entry point to all three, and someday I may end up with a dedicated machine for each function.
@@6moon.s I am not sure if I am understanding you but putting a CNC router on an Ender 3 would be junk. For the kickstarter price the Snapmaker isn't that bad of a deal and it is quality. I sold mine to make some extra cash because I didn't like having to switch the modules around but besides that it did everything well. I own other machines but it was the most consistent and also the loudest...
@@6moon.s nope, the ender 3 is definitely not as good as this in print quality etc, as well. adding a cnc is extremely hard and just somewhat crazy.
It’s a 3-in-1, and as such its great at many master of none. But its quality of work is better than all other 3-in-1 machines that I’ve seen.
Witam Nikodem
do do Ciebie pozwolę sobie napisać w ojczystym języku, mam pytanie czy ciąłeś laserem np. gumę np grubości 3-4 mm ?
My entire life savings??? Whaaaatttt!!!
Hi Nikodem
Excellent clear explanation.. Thank you. Can this machine cut precise geometric lines into a 1cm thin acrylic sheet?
Hi, at multiple passes with CNC toolhead it should be possible :)
I'd buy one if it didn't mean I would have to live off instant ramen for the next few months.:(
I would not recommend to buy, unless you just want to play with it.
Don't buy it. Already sold mine... Wayy to loud, many issues and not very good at anything...
I bought one and got ripped off by the company. Do not buy.
@@RobertPersichitte How did u get ripped off? :(
Basically the unit I got was garbage and nobody will help me. The linear rails, controller, and tool heads are all non-functional, and nobody will help me. They just said, "It should work."
So, it's a jack of 3 trades, master of none.
Good work bro! I have a question if you don't mind. Do the laser cut through very thin plaque of gold?
No, there is no way to cut any kind of metal with such a laser. Even more powerful CO2 laser can't do that
What about dust collection? For $2K, why can't a nice dust skirt be provided? Don't understand why this part of machining is almost always overlooked by manufacturers in this price range. Very informative video. Thank you.
So this machine can not etch with the lazer on acrylic?
What is the table and the mechanics of the machine.
It can print at speeds of up to 100mm/s. Luban itself has a Fast preset, try it.
I tried all of them, it starts to loose quality at higher printing speeds. Fast preset is still fine though.
Which model did u get??
Question?????
Will it laser a picture of someone on aluminum and Silver?
The Snapmaker should be able to cut through 3mm plywood just fine, at least it worked fine for me reliably without problems. Try those settings: 8 passes, 0.05mm per pass, 200 mm/min at a hundred percent. Most people make the mistake to set the pass depth too deep, assuming that the laser cuts away that exact amount, but the laser doesn't work this way. It is all about the focus point and if you set the focus point to deep the light will stray too much, having no force to cut. Therefore you need to keep the focus point as steady as possible.
Thank you for the settings info!
They’re coming out with a 4 watt laser and eventually a 7 watt for true cutting for the 2.0
Great review Nikodem! The aluminum milling is gorgeous. Not the case of that orange vase top though. Personally I don't believe in n those 3-in-1 solutions especially when it comes to average duty milling session. For hobbyists this could be a condensed solution. I'm pretty amazed that the version 1.0 of this stuff was "bargained" without warning people that a 2.0 is coming... at a pretty high price tag.
"Bargained" without warning? Huh?
always expect a new version or redesign to come out. but they should advertise it to some extent.
Nice
The site says it can do carbon fiber sheet. Would you try that?
Carbon fiber is dangerous to mill, you need to mill it inside the water bath it's also kind of expansive. Once I will find some at a good price I will try to mill it on IndyMill and maybe this machine too
can it machine obsidian too ?
Snapmaker or Bambu for the win?
Love the review but truth to be told that unfortunately for the snapmaker buying 3 separate machines will save you some money while giving you better results and faster. And your machines will not suffer from 'swiss army knife' syndrome.
I'm on the same track as you. I ordered snapmaker a couple of days ago but has revoked the order. Going to start with CNC and buy a stepcraft 600 instead. They have modules for 3w laser and 3d printing aswell if i want it in the future. But the machine is a CNC as base.
I totaly agree.
I would rather buy a Sainsmart Genmitsu 4030 cnc router for $999, a Creality Ender 5 plus 3D printer for $529, and an Ortur 2 15 watt laser for $220; roughly $100 more but vastly superior performance and larger capability. The only down side is the additional space required.
instead of the ender 5 go with an elf, its true corexy, other then that i agree, this printer is for user experience imo, it may not be the best bang 4 ur buck, but if a class wants one its a very easy and simple thing to use, without a lot of tweaking, and its a lot smaller then those. its not for a hobbyist.
The laser is such a let down, do they have something stronger yet ?
What CNC software to go from solid model to the code to run the machine?
Fusion360
What grade was the aluminium plate you were cutting? If you said it, I missed it. :)
I have no idea those are just scrap pieces left from a laser cutting company
@@nikodembartnik Haha, no worries. Will order a few bits and hope for the best :)
What about the fumes when using the laser? Is it just me or could that be harmful?
They are harmful, but you can buy an additional enclosure. P.S. Don't buy from Snapmaker. They never gave me a working unit.
The fumes from laser cutting cardboard are not nearly as foul as 3D printing with certain filaments. Any fumes are not likely to be good for you, so plan accordingly. And this machine is wonderful, especially to a beginner as myself.
Hi, thanks for your informative video. I have two questions for you. First one, can I design objects with Solidworks and then print them ? what types of files does the software accept ? the second question, can one foresee an upgrade, like using a stronger laser source, or a bigger CNC spindle hear ?
svg, png, jpg, jpeg, bmp, dxf, to name a few. (I just got my SM 2.0) They have many components in the works such as a 4th axis, bigger and better modules and linear axis stuff, more powerful laser, and its on the website.
@@wolfgangclassics How deep can it mill and what kind of woods are possible?
Hey, what is flexible filament?
Like the name suggests. Filament that is more flexible than normal plastics
Nice review. In fact, an excellent review. But... There is noting impressive about this machine. It's just like an MFD, a jack of all trades, but master of none.
Aluminium is somehow relatively soft compare to other metal
Software - it is CNCJS and Cura
im dissapointed for loose linear rails, it should have build with hiwin linear rails .
Quanto custa amigo uma desa meu amigo 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The benchy looks REALLY bad. Is it always like that? I recently tested a $120 ender 3 clone and it did a better job tbh.
Price.....?
Have you heard of any possibility to upgrade the laser from let’s say the given 1,6W to 5W? I get the feeling that engraving works fine but that cutting through wood (which would be my main purpose of the laser) is quite a task or takes an enormous amount of time.
There is a 10W option last time I checked
How many time he said "machine" in this video?
What is the price????
quick to google. but $1800 (iirc) for the A350.
17:19 i thought i got skype calling
You should mention if it was a gift, a review model, or if you purchased it with your own money.
Check the website out. $1700... Definitely out of my budget. 1005 reviews as we speak. I somehow doubt this number.
Good video but too many ads ! Please stop all those...that's killing the viewer experience...
I guess it didn't occur to you to open the big box and take a few of the small boxes at a time to your workshop.
Beautiful but expensive
The flexible filament needs a hotter bed and nozzle temperature.
7k PLN to dużo. Czy nie lepiej w tej cenie kupić trzy urządzenia? Ja rozumiem, że trzy urządzenia zajmują dużo miejsca ale mogą być osobno nieco lepsze w swoich kategoriach. W myśl powiedzenia "jeśli coś jest do wszystkiego, jest też do niczego"
Wydaje mi się, że głównym założeniem tej maszyny jest aby była praktycznie bezobsługowa. Jest na maksa zabudowana, bez możliwości większej ingerencji. Mimo wszystko chcąc kupować 3 osobne gotowe maszyny też trzeba liczyć się ze sporymi kosztami, pewnie mniejszymi, ale wtedy też dochodzą 3 urządzenia do osobnego ogarnięcia. Jak dla mnie, snapmaker jest ok, no i w sumie niewiele ponad to, wiadomo - laser to fajna sprawa, tym bardziej że na laser troche szkoda osobnego urządzenia, kiedy jest on w stanie przede wszystkim grawerować. Jednak ciągle no nie jest to demon wydajności, drukarka spoko, frezara - no nie oszukujmy się, raczej do okazjonalnego wycinania bo jednak wrzeciono nie powala no i laser, który jest w sumie problemem większości tego typu maszyn - po prostu lasery zdolne do cięcia grubszych materiałów/metalowych blach to jednak nie ten zakres cenowy. Jak na maszynkę do zrobienia od czasu do czasu projektów raz z druku, raz na laserze, raz do wycięcia na frezarce - fajna opcja, stosunkowo wygodna i bezproblemowa, no ale wiadomo, że szukając czegoś bardziej "diy" można lepiej rozplanować 7k i albo kupić dobrą ramę, wrzeciono, laser itp, albo samemu coś zbudować. Jednak tutaj chyba kluczowe jest połączenie 3 urządzeń w jednym, niewymagającym jakiejś niesamowitej uwagi :)
Na printermods niedługo będzie dostępny Xchange. Ze zwykłego Endera można będzie zrobić snapmakera za ułamek tej kwoty z podobnymi możliwościami.
Czemu nie nagrywasz po polsku?
Chętnie bym cię oglądał, gdy mówisz w naszym języku :d.
Ps. I tak cię oglądam xd.
dorzucaj polskie napisy
How much did they pay for you? Nobody has received his printer
Thousands of Kickstarter backers have received their Snapmaker 2.
I received mine (after a long wait admittedly) in May 2020 and COVID 19 caused tremendous delays, it was worth the wait.
It's an excellent option for those who wish to skill up their 3d/laser/CNC making at home. Changing tool heads and tables take me approximately 20-30 minutes (mine is the medium sized A250).
I received mine in Dec 2020. I preordered mine months before while they had a special promotional price
kek... 1600$! Has it any sense? you can buy 5W laser (about 150$), 3d-printer (about 350) and CNC-machine (from 400 to 800) from aliexpress.
You will end up with 3 totaly different devices (that may be a plus) and with totally different software for each one (in my opinion a big downside)
@@nikodembartnik OK. I'll have fast 3d-printer, very fast laser and reasonable priced CNC, all of them can do some jobs independently and simultaneously. Is it worth using different software? I think yes.
@@dimstr8714 its also the user experience, would a class want 3 machines all working at once? or a nice, simple to use, machine. u can get cheaper alternatives out there, but for the price u also get the experience and eas of use. (i dont have one though so :/)
No, YOU'RE magnetic!
Where do people get the money for all these expensive things???🤦🏻♂️
The largest size was like 900 on Kickstarter at one point
Do not buy!
Be careful with Snapmaker. I waited almost a year to get a broken machine. Almost two months later, I still haven't got a resolution from customer service. Terrible company.
P.S. A lot of RUclipsrs have gotten free units without properly disclosing their relationship. Not sure if that happened here.
Fajnie by bylo gdybys chociaż tlumaczenie dal po polsku
At that price a Shapeoko is better option
iTs MaGnEtIcc???????????
So basically a machine which wants to do everything but can't do anything right. Pretty much useless toy imo.
I wouldn't agree, it actually works really nice
Nothing special , move along folks
Amazing sponsored content for a $1700 machine who can do 3 things, but badly.
Buy an Ender 3, build a small CNC and you will still be left with enough money to pay your rent. It's a waste of money.
@@6moon.s I think what SaitoGray is saying is that the video may have been biased to sell the Snapmakers. The company has been giving free units to RUclipsrs who haven't been disclosing their sponsorship relationship. The only reason I know about it is because I got scammed by the company and have been working to inform others. I lost nearly $2,000 and want to make sure that others aren't in the same trap.
My Snapmaker A350 w/ Enclosure never even turned on. It isn't just working badly, it's not working at all and customer service hasn't helped after over a month of trying to contact them.
@@RobertPersichitte 7000-8000 units have now been shipped. I ordered in Sept, shipped in mid Nov arrived in Oz late Dec. My son and I put it together this week and have printed two items with no problems. I have had no previous experiences with 3d print/Cnc/laser and this machine will be a good learning experience in order to figure out which type to use for next machine. Yes there have been some QC issues but they appear to be getting on top of them. Extra staff employed to speed up customer queries. COVID also played a part in slowing down deliveries.