As an owner of a Snapmaker 2.0 A350, and it being my first ever 3D printer, first ever laser engraver, and first ever CNC machine, I found this review fair, balanced, and accurate. I appreciate that. Well done.
@@dedogster I actually was part of the original kickstarter campaign, however I was somewhat on the tail end of it, so I wasn’t among the earliest to receive shipment. It did take some patient waiting but they eventually overcame all manner of Covid impositions and fulfilled all of the sponsor purchases.
@@habiks I currently own four (4) 3D printers and three (3) CNC machines. You're not a good psychic regarding guessing how many machines someone owns. ???
Since the date of this review, a number of things have changed. Snapmaker issued new silent rails, a new power supply unit, a rotary tool, and more recently a 10 Watt laser. It's now much quieter and the laser part is very much faster.
@@ricksanchez9669 I have one myself. And although I had some issues in the beginning (mine was the Kickstarter one), it's not a bad machine. I like the robustness, the 3-in one aspect, and the inbuilt safety features. It's not the fastest or best but as a hobbyist I have the flexibility to work with 3 tools in one work area which is more than enough. Plus their support is excellent and there is a thriving community, so most definitely one never feels abandoned.
Cool review, Michael. I LOVE the sass at the end; "you'll let me know in the comments". As someone who has new to the 'maker' community, your videos are truly a godsend. Thank you so much!
I know it doesn't offer that much over other cheaper machines, but damn If this isn't the most beautiful design that ever hit the market. I want one just to admire it.
I got the A350 a month ago and love it. I have only been learning the laser engraving so far and it's quite the learning curve for noobs like me. I am am having fun learning ow to use this machine and will have the same learning process with the CNC and 3D printing as well, but it's worth it.
@@imanafman2 the laser and 3d printing modules are the easiest ones in my opinion. Cnc isn't that intuitive, I have broken some cnc bills. But it's worth it!
I very rarely comment on anything! I have viewed most of your videos now and just purchased an Ender 5+ for my workshop. Following your calibration guides I have flawless prints, you add so much value to the maker community, so thank you for the genuine content. This machine looks very nice and well produced as an all-rounder. For me personally having dedicated specialists would be the preference, but I can see there would be good market for this machine. Keep up the good work Michael it is very appreciated!
The amount of stuff I learned when getting into 3D printing way back and the amount I still learn from you is incredible. Always informative, always on point, always well done. Keep up the great work
I have 2 Snapmaker 2.0 A350s. I did get a little clever and bought both on eBay that were "As is, for parts only". But I am a real DIY guy so I sourced parts to fix it so I ended up paying about $700 for each after getting the needed parts. I like your Infiniti shirt. We drive an Infiniti Q70s with the 440hp V8. Took me about 8 months to find a specific one that we wanted fully loaded and it's a monster. Best car we have ever owned. Great reviews on your channel.
If the product development team is reading this, please consider the convenience of quick swap brackets for the different beds rather than all those screws. Other than that it looks quite useful. The only reason I'm not getting this is because of the mode change labor. A deal breaker for me in this cost range.
Several of us who own Snapmaker 2's have 3D-printed quick-swap brackets for the tool heads, and have devised ways of adding the bed change-overs without having to do all those screws.
I have this printer and enclosure. I love it but the noise is one of my gripes. I replaced the fan on the power supply to a noctua which improved it significantly. Also they are working on new and improved linear rails with silent stepper motors. Are also making a new dual extruder module for 3d printing. I noticed when you did the bed leveling you only used the 3x3 grid, you can changed this to 4x4 and 5x5 if you want it to be more accurate.
For what it's worth, the power supply is loud due to the fan they put in it. There are several forum posts on snapmaker that talk about replacing the fan with a quality replacement that drastically reduces the noise at idle. I did this within a week of getting the unit and now I have no problem with it sitting next to me on my desk.
Fred Bean: That's good to hear. If some of the comments above are correct, Snapmaker is already addressing Michael's concerns. I think it makes good sense for Michael to review it as it came from the supplier, and then, if he chooses, make an upgrade video showing the "fixes". He has done this brilliantly with many different products, and I like that approach.
I have wondered about getting this machine for a while, but always felt it might be a bit too all purpose. Your video answered a lot of my questions, so I am glad the Snap Maker folk were willing to give you some time with it. Great video. This is the first of yours I've watched, but I suspect I'll be watching a lot more so that means your subscriber count went up by one. Woo hoo. Cheers.
The A350 was my first 3D printer and I've really enjoyed it so far. I use cura for printing and lightburn for laser. Use some vasalene in the tracks of the enclosure for easier opening.
Great review thanks Michael. As far as I am concerned, you are bang on target with your conclusions. What a beautifully made and presented machine! However, assuming you have the space, I would probably go for three dedicated devices, even though they would probably be a bit more agricultural. As the saying goes: "Jack of all trades, Master of none."
I bought the F350 for only 3d printing. I'll 3d print my laser and cnc machines. One thing that is a huge fail on these is the filament runout switch. I found that the body of my micro switch came apart. So when I loaded new filament, it didn't recognize it and wouldn't allow me to resume. So I removed the right side cover and the fan, and I wedged in a shim to keep the switch body together, and it now works flawlessly. I think I made a video of it. Other than it takes a LONG time to heat the bed and its noisy as hell, it has been a good printer. It does make me money so I can't complain. Huge step up from the snapmaker original. I ordered $70 worth of 2020 extruded T- slot and a few sheets of acrylic to build my own enclosure. Works magnificently for a fraction of the price but still looks the part.
Not gonna lie I was really excited for this concept. However, it seems cumbersome to change the head and re-dial things in every single time. Seems like different machines should stay separate honestly. Incredible build quality though. Would love to see some printers designed with these high quality extrusions.
Or it might be just one Produkt iteration away from successfully joining it all in one Maschine. I think they are almost there. Remaining problems are not that hard to figure out
Several of us who own Snapmaker 2's have 3D-printed quick-swap brackets for the tool heads, and have devised ways of adding the bed change-overs without having to redo all those screws.
@@savejeff15 If they made an all-in-one, it would be very heavy. Heavy = slow. It would be a mediocre 3D printer, a mediocre laser, but maybe an OK CNC.
I just ordered the new Version of this all-in-one machine, the Artisan, which has been greatly evolved. You can switch between all 3 modes in less then half minute, laser has 10W instead of 1600 mW, the Router is stronger and the machine in general is faster and can handle much bigger load with an encloser which allows high temperature printing. All in all the Artisan is a great improvement against the old snapmaker you have tested here and it should get reviewed, too, imho.
Thank you very much for taking the time to add links. This has been very helpful. I own a 350 but have also just bought the Artisan. It's a GREAT improvement on the 350. Jim Bell (Australia)
I just finished assembly on an a250, and I echo you on pretty much everything you've said about it. Yet, you've come through again with the kirimoto option. I too found my imports vastly distorted when using Luban. If they could work on the sound problems as well as show some love and attention to Luban, this would easily be an all-in-one that any maker would be proud to own.
Good review and an impressive machine. I suspect it will get better as new versions are built. Another reason to get this verses three separate machines is Space. Not everyone has the space to house three machines, especially for those who live in apartments.
An impressive machine? It's whooping 2000$. For that amount of money I can buy 7 CR-5s which print far better than this one. CNC is good only for wood and other soft materials. Laser engraver can be purchased for less than that. It's just style over function.
@@MladenMijatov I live in a small apartment, and I am considering this because space is at a premium for me. I would LOVE to have three separate machines that are specialized, but I simply don't have the room.
It should be mentioned that they are working hard on improving the psu fan noise and silent steppers. and even better, they have a rotary module for 4th axis laser and CNC work that is accompanied with a emergency stop button and they're working hard on both a dual extruder print head and a multi material module such as the mmu2 from prusa.
Excellent job dude. Changing out modules and basic need to know info. With all the videos I've watched, you covered the grounds of mostly all of them. 4 thumbs up. 👍
I had the Snapmaker Original, direct from Kickstarter. I sold it again after 2 months: it was just too loud. I could not run it during the night, or during the homeoffice time of my wife. The SnapMaker V1 also had a much smaller volume: 110mm in all directions, and no heated bed. I discovered that I never used the CNC head because I was afraid of the dust. I used the laser only twice, because I wasn't prepared for the smell in my apartment. And for just 3D print it was too loud and too small for me. It worked great, though. For beginners it was/is a great machine... I now have a Prusa MK3 :-)
Fantastic review and I really enjoyed it, funny enough I just got an email from one of my suppliers about this so the review was timely. Quality abounds with this unit but it really baffles me that they would leave it so loud and use the old stepper drivers. Very odd, perhaps there is some reason I just don’t know. Quality machine let down a bit by the software as when you are paying this amount of money you really should not have to use third party software to get round limitations. The killer for me is the mess and all the cleaning. To be honest for me at least it has to be a no. I would rather buy a separate laser and Cnc machine and keep them separate but I do admire their attention to detail and high quality but it’s not for me.
They shouldnt even sell the laser without the enclosure. Someone who wants to cheap out is going to blind himself permanantly. Btw 1600mw is enough power to cause eye damage when you look at the laser spot, if you are not wearing laser goggles.
@@BenCos2018 Imo goggles are not suited for something that is on for hours or days and can damage youre vision so easily. Are you really dedicating a whole room to the printer so you dont have to wear goggles for days or are you going to remember to put them one everytime you walk in that room. People tend to underestimate how fast lasers damage youre vision.
You get green \ amber safety glasses last I checked it was multiple pairs, with the unit that is to be used when using the laser even if you are using the enclosure
Hi Mike Very nice video thought I would bite the bullet there was a used one for sale in our area. After this video decided on upgrade the printers I have instead. One machine I have is the Tevo Black Widow all stock was having issues with the different big name slicers. I like the layout and look of the the slicer you were showing Luban thought I would give it a try it being free and you can customize. Was very impressed with results nice to navigate through all the settings I need even tree support. Thanks for introducing the new software have a great day. thanks
The loud steppers are hard to overcome because the machine also does CNC milling, which requires a lot of torque, meaning some really beefy steppers running at high voltage.
Glad this is finally getting reviewed. Seems like a really neat platform (maybe short of being more open source and user modable (extruder swap etc) ) And i bet it is rough for these small companies to break out and get some pr etc
I've dealt with scaling issues in the past on other CO2 machines, typically what has caused this is design softwares not saving in metric/imperial correctly or different softwares not interpreting the scale. I'd sometimes see this as well in Cura.
I love the 400 Newton Meter laser. 400nm is Nanometer as the wavelength of the color, but yeah its a really good als well done Review :P If it wouldnt be that frigging expensive id buy it. Just for the laser and cnc functionality.
Never understood the slow printing speeds they use in their standard Luban profiles. I can print on my A350 at the same high speed as at my heavily modified Ender 5 Plus, which results in comparable nice print quality. The only thing that takes longer on the A350 is the recovery of your hearing... I think the major advantage of this 3-in-1 machine is not really the time, experience or energy you'll be saving, but the space you save compared with when you need 3 same sized dedicated machines in your appartment...
Thanks for watching and sharing. This one is being donated to my best friend so we'll see if they want to try other software or tweak the profiles in Luban. Space wise, I think with the enclosure this takes up the room of two machines.
That’s actually quite scary that you would leave the laser running over night while you sleep buddy unless you stayed up for 30 hours… plz be careful bud all it takes is and ember too stray of and you have a bad time on your hands all the best bro and stay safe mate
Awesome as usual! I think the other thing why this is better than the option of building or buying separately is due to space! This machine has a larger footprint but if you bought 3 machines capable of doing these functions at the same sizes, then you would need at least 3X the space just to have them! I am a cheap bastard and do not like the price, especially with the software issues and why would they only use a PTFE lined hotend rather than a full metal one??? but I can see with the quality of the actual frame it is worth a bit more than a single machine, just not what they are asking (convenience price tags are getting higher and higher it seems). I would love to hear if you can swap out the hotend, extruder, fans, etc with aftermarket parts or if once you buy this, are you stuck in their ecosystem and have to pay whatever they want to replace the parts.
Just change the fan out of the power supply. Problem solved... Change the bed to a glass one another problem solved. My printer doesn’t seem to be nearly as noisy as yours after I changed out the power supply fan. I have 10 other 3d printers and the Snapmaker by far is the best “Out of the box” printer.
You mentioned that you had to recalibrate the Z axis when 3D printing. I have had this issue with a Delta Wasp & found it necessary to calibrate with a hot bed to compensate for thermal expansion
Thanks for a great review. I will check out CNC kitchens as well. I own the A350+enclosure as well. I think luban is the worst part. I didn't have something to compare the noise to, but I'm glad to know it's subpar. Would you consider a video upgrading the sm2 stepper motors? Thanks for all your hard work!
The design of this machine is good in fact it's real eye candy, but that noise! if I had to come up with an analogy to describe this machine it would be "Serving a turd on a silver platter" I have just changed one of my Ender 3's and a CR-10 to silent driver boards as their noise is slightly annoying but this thing is in a league of its own, who in their right mind would sign off on this driver/motor combination?
I got a Snapmaker 2.0 A350 on the Kickstarter. Received the unit in May 2020 and I have had issues with the auto bed leveling since day one. When printing some areas of the print are too far away from the bed and some are too close to bed. I have gone through the bed leveling process multiple times with no improvement. I have also adjusted the sensor on the print head using Snapmaker’s guide with no improvement. I have emailed Snapmaker about the issue and was told to remove the screws in each corner of bed which changed nothing. It’s now a year later and it’s still not fixed. I feel like Snapmaker is ignoring the issue. There are a lot of posts on their forum from other people having this issue but no fix yet from Snapmaker. As for everything else, the laser engraver and CNC work great. I just wish they would fix the auto bed leveling issue because if they did it would be a great machine. P.S. It is noisy as hell so if you need something quite get something else.
I was given a Snapmaker 2.0 A350 as a graduation present after finishing a two year 3D-technician course. Long story short is that it wasn't a positive experience. First off is the noise. The machine stood in the basement and even with the doors closed one could still hear it. Second was the inconsistent auto-calibration. No matter how many times I calibrated with all the different settings I could barely get any prints which didn't turn into spaghetti goo. Filament got stuck to the nozzle or the filament got loose from the build plate (or both). Changing temperatures, Z offset and filaments made no difference. At first glance it seemed the machine didn't have any standard components (which is something I could be wrong about of course) and the addons sold separately were quite expensive. An emergency stop button should come included with any CNC/laser machine. Speaking of CNC and laser, at the time I didn't have any project which required those workflows so I never tried them and therefore can't give an opinion about it. The native slicer software Luban was quite cumbersome to use and I quickly put it aside for Cura instead. Also files sliced in Luban would take a really long time to print where in Cura it would take 1/3 of the time. In the end I sold it and bought a Creality CR-10 V2 and I don't regret it a second. The V2 just works, it's much more quiet than the Snapmaker and there's some upgrades/mods one could do. I've seen some awesome stuff people have made with their Snapmakers so it seems I only had a bad experience but in the end I'm happy to have replaced it with a CR-10 V2 and if I ever decide to jump into CNC and laser I probably buy separate dedicated machines for those tasks instead of having an all-in-one machine.
The 3d prints can be started from luban also you don't need to be at the machine, click the play button in the workspace on the top left of the work area.
I simply don't have the *space* for three dedicated machines, which seems like it'd be a pretty powerful argument for someone in that position. As it is, I don't have enough need for the CNC or laser cutting to justify the cost, and the local Fab Lab is right across the road...
I’m considering a Snapmaker 2 since I do not have the space for multiple machines but would like all 3 functions. Your review looks very fair. From what I understand from Snapmaker and other reviews is that Snapmaker has listened to the critics and made some adjustments like reducing the noice, which would be a deal breaker for me since I have to work in the same area. Could you comment on those so called improvements and update or new modules (like horizontal rotary module and 10W high power laser module) ?
At 5:00 it's 450 nanometres, not Newton metre. Nanometres describes the wavelength (color) of some light Newton metre are for torque of rotating objects
It's a shame to see such a well built machine let down by noisy fans and drivers and I was beginning to drool up to the point you turned it on - at least it is an easy fix for the manufacturers . Did you take a look at what drivers they were using ? One problem with this unit is the leadscrews on the X & Y axis - after some use they will get some backlash and this will cause some issues , ball screws would have been better .
Your videos are simply amazing. Thanks for this thorough review! You used the CNC to cut some acrylic - have you tried cutting acrylic with the laser cutter?
I wonder if we'll ever get a truly good AIO system. Every time it's a "jack of all trades" situation, feeding the "well just buy three separate, good machines" argument, and why the heck does it always feel like a "3D printer + extras" affair when the mechanical properties just don't work well that way. Is "an okay 3D printer with a lackluster milling attachment" really more useful than, say, "an okay cnc mill with a lackluster 3D printing attachment"? That's not a rhetorical question, I'd honestly like to know if there's a reason other than "well, people seem to like buying 3D printers, so let's try to stand out of the crowd by adding some extra tat to it." PS: I honestly don't mean to crap on this product, there's clearly a lot of care and effort put into it (or at least as far as we can tell from a video) and it's far from what I'd call a "bad" machine. I'm just wondering if there's a fundamental, conceptual problem that needs to be addressed before manufacturers come to the conclusion that they just have to try harder with what they've been doing so far.
I think the issue is just that making a machine good enough to actually do all three of these things is, fundamentally, flawed financially. Anyone with enough money to to buy something engineered well enough to carry out *both* routing and 3D printing to a 'good' level probably has the spare room for both machines, bearing in mind that things good for CNC (heavy frames, big motors) as well as the mess created can be a negative for 3D printing. I think the Snapmaker is priced and engineered very carefully with this in mind. I certainly think they could improve some things without incurring too much cost (could they really not think of a way to avoid having to totally swap all the beds around? Or a decent vacuum attached to the CNC end to at least do *some* of the cleaning for you?) but there are pretty good reasons why a truly good and consumer friendly AIO feels very unlikely.
So, not excelling at any task. Hmmm. I really was looking forward to this one, as I already have 2 3d printers, ill just get my laser engraver separatedly and then maybe ill just get a cnc machine later. Bummer. I like the idea of having all in 1. BTW, do you know about a cnc machine with a tad bit larger work area (say 40 cm x 40cm at least) that can support a 4th axis?
The snapmaker 2.0 may be decent for the price, but that enclosure price😬 all of the components would be easily acquired and built for probably 1/3rd what they charge
I got one from the Kickstarter and I sold it. The printer was way too slow and the motors and PSU were very loud. I also really didn't like the door of the enclosure - it just didn't shut or open smoothly at all. I wasn't a fan of the software workflow. Also, changing tools is a huge hassle. It all added up to an extremely slow, cumbersome, and loud experience. I think they can easily fix most of these things and I hope they do
I’m curious - the top link after this video is for the Creality CP-01 that also does all these things, and is also from this same channel. So, how do these two compare?
i have a €100 laser engraver from Aliexpress, it does everything via lightburn and better than the snapmaker. It just can't cut because i got the cheapest one.
I have a 350 with the rotary and the biggest problem with this snapmaker2.0 is luban. Iam not a computer person and I find luban tedious and a total waste of time. If there is a way to use the snapmaker2.0 without luban please let us know. I love lightburn and freecad! Ialso have a. Long mill cnc and comgrow and Sculpfun S9 laser.
Oh damn, that noise is a dealbreaker for me. However, my Ender3 V2 is at the same level due to its fans, but at least I can change them. Drifting bed leveling is also something I don't want to see in 2000 Dollar machines. Otherwise it's a very nice package.
Cool video. You have a link to order so youll get a kickback? Been researching for a while and after this I'm going for this machine. Great showing options at the start. Great upload!
Hello, I am currently looking at the sale of Snapmaker 2.0 with 10W laser, I wonder if I can cut acrylic (2mm) and PETG that is glued to photo paper (both about 2mm) with the laser? I am new to laser cutting, and will need a laser to do the above things but I just found it interesting have a 3d printer too, would you recommend the snapmaker for the above? I am also concerned about the fumes, I will really appreciate feedback on that too and how to handle it (forum or a guide that I can read will be welcome too). Thank you and keep up the good work doing such detailed videos. I subscribed :)
Hello there; I would like to congratulate you about the amazing tutorials you have on your page. I have the snapmaker 2.5. I am trying to use the. 3D printing but the model I want to make does not stick on the bed. I do not know why. Could you please help me out to find out the problem. I would appreciate it. Thank you!
Glenn Leader: Lurking in a dark corner! Michael was less than happy with this print, because it was darker than he wanted... I really liked it; it was clearly Chuck, but the shaded areas gave it a moody feel.
It appears the machine looks high end, however they cheaped out in several areas. That 1500mw laser..... LOL I bought a 2000mw laser for less than $200 USD over 5 years ago. For the cost of that machine, that should have been at the minimum a 10 watt LED laser today.
The other benefit of a 3 in 1 is that you save a lot of space. And if you only need 2 features you get the 3rd for free for possible future use. But I wouldn't suggest this for only 1 use. Especially as just a 3D printer That laser wattage looks way too low for what you're paying. I've seen a 5-watt cut and etch much faster.
A very pretty machine, but fails in areas that cheaper machines do not. Just because a tool moves in 3 axis, does not mean that one 3 axis moving tool can do the work of 3 axis tools designed for a specific task. The machine is far too slow. By going slow you can get away with flimsy construction, and the flimsy design and puny low speed spindle, means it is severely restricted in 3d milling. Of course it will work, but painfully. But, it looks very pretty. It will suit a number of folk that I am aware of, but if it was given to me, I'd just use it for parts, as you would with a cheaper ender3.
Love the disclosure at the start of the video, i think you should go into slightly more detail like Thomas Sanladerer, also starting if the machine gets returned or not, but already it's great stuff
Can anyone comment on the improved steppers etc, on upgraded version of the 350, the high-powered lazer module and the roary modules? ie the 'evolution of the A350 from the May 2021 date of this video?
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As an owner of a Snapmaker 2.0 A350, and it being my first ever 3D printer, first ever laser engraver, and first ever CNC machine, I found this review fair, balanced, and accurate. I appreciate that. Well done.
Did it take you long to recive it, that seen to be one of the main complaints I have seen.
@@dedogster I actually was part of the original kickstarter campaign, however I was somewhat on the tail end of it, so I wasn’t among the earliest to receive shipment. It did take some patient waiting but they eventually overcame all manner of Covid impositions and fulfilled all of the sponsor purchases.
I think these days the deliveries are down in the COUPLE of months timeframe.
as a owner of 1 machine you're not the person to be giving reviews as you have no knowledge of other machine performance to compare it with
@@habiks I currently own four (4) 3D printers and three (3) CNC machines. You're not a good psychic regarding guessing how many machines someone owns. ???
Since the date of this review, a number of things have changed. Snapmaker issued new silent rails, a new power supply unit, a rotary tool, and more recently a 10 Watt laser. It's now much quieter and the laser part is very much faster.
@@ricksanchez9669 I have one myself. And although I had some issues in the beginning (mine was the Kickstarter one), it's not a bad machine. I like the robustness, the 3-in one aspect, and the inbuilt safety features. It's not the fastest or best but as a hobbyist I have the flexibility to work with 3 tools in one work area which is more than enough. Plus their support is excellent and there is a thriving community, so most definitely one never feels abandoned.
@@johnfiott I'm uhh going through some stuff...kinda took out on snapmaker today. I have the a350t, and any failings have been mine.
Cool review, Michael. I LOVE the sass at the end; "you'll let me know in the comments". As someone who has new to the 'maker' community, your videos are truly a godsend. Thank you so much!
I know it doesn't offer that much over other cheaper machines, but damn If this isn't the most beautiful design that ever hit the market. I want one just to admire it.
I have one and I can ensure you it's the most beautiful design there!
The components really are that stunning. I felt bad for getting it dirty.
I got the A350 a month ago and love it. I have only been learning the laser engraving so far and it's quite the learning curve for noobs like me. I am am having fun learning ow to use this machine and will have the same learning process with the CNC and 3D printing as well, but it's worth it.
@@imanafman2 the laser and 3d printing modules are the easiest ones in my opinion. Cnc isn't that intuitive, I have broken some cnc bills. But it's worth it!
I very rarely comment on anything! I have viewed most of your videos now and just purchased an Ender 5+ for my workshop. Following your calibration guides I have flawless prints, you add so much value to the maker community, so thank you for the genuine content. This machine looks very nice and well produced as an all-rounder. For me personally having dedicated specialists would be the preference, but I can see there would be good market for this machine. Keep up the good work Michael it is very appreciated!
The amount of stuff I learned when getting into 3D printing way back and the amount I still learn from you is incredible. Always informative, always on point, always well done. Keep up the great work
That laser engraved Chuck Norris photo is freaking awesome.
I have 2 Snapmaker 2.0 A350s. I did get a little clever and bought both on eBay that were "As is, for parts only". But I am a real DIY guy so I sourced parts to fix it so I ended up paying about $700 for each after getting the needed parts. I like your Infiniti shirt. We drive an Infiniti Q70s with the 440hp V8. Took me about 8 months to find a specific one that we wanted fully loaded and it's a monster. Best car we have ever owned. Great reviews on your channel.
Wow a 450 Newton meter laser module?
Double check your scripts mate, good video
Hah didn't realise I said that. Cars on the brain..
If the product development team is reading this, please consider the convenience of quick swap brackets for the different beds rather than all those screws. Other than that it looks quite useful. The only reason I'm not getting this is because of the mode change labor. A deal breaker for me in this cost range.
Several of us who own Snapmaker 2's have 3D-printed quick-swap brackets for the tool heads, and have devised ways of adding the bed change-overs without having to do all those screws.
I have this printer and enclosure. I love it but the noise is one of my gripes. I replaced the fan on the power supply to a noctua which improved it significantly. Also they are working on new and improved linear rails with silent stepper motors. Are also making a new dual extruder module for 3d printing.
I noticed when you did the bed leveling you only used the 3x3 grid, you can changed this to 4x4 and 5x5 if you want it to be more accurate.
Thanks for watching, sharing and for the tip.
What’s the thickest material it can laser cut or cnc
For what it's worth, the power supply is loud due to the fan they put in it. There are several forum posts on snapmaker that talk about replacing the fan with a quality replacement that drastically reduces the noise at idle. I did this within a week of getting the unit and now I have no problem with it sitting next to me on my desk.
Fred Bean: That's good to hear. If some of the comments above are correct, Snapmaker is already addressing Michael's concerns. I think it makes good sense for Michael to review it as it came from the supplier, and then, if he chooses, make an upgrade video showing the "fixes".
He has done this brilliantly with many different products, and I like that approach.
4:56 Wow! That's a torquey laser dude! 😁
Yeah but that's crank torque, it's only 365 at the wheels.
I have wondered about getting this machine for a while, but always felt it might be a bit too all purpose. Your video answered a lot of my questions, so I am glad the Snap Maker folk were willing to give you some time with it. Great video. This is the first of yours I've watched, but I suspect I'll be watching a lot more so that means your subscriber count went up by one. Woo hoo. Cheers.
The A350 was my first 3D printer and I've really enjoyed it so far. I use cura for printing and lightburn for laser. Use some vasalene in the tracks of the enclosure for easier opening.
I used silicon spray which is super slippery.. as I think Vaseline attacks some materials.
I hadn't realized so much extensive assembly would be involved everytime I wanted to do a project, that's helpful information
Great review thanks Michael. As far as I am concerned, you are bang on target with your conclusions. What a beautifully made and presented machine! However, assuming you have the space, I would probably go for three dedicated devices, even though they would probably be a bit more agricultural.
As the saying goes: "Jack of all trades, Master of none."
I bought the F350 for only 3d printing. I'll 3d print my laser and cnc machines.
One thing that is a huge fail on these is the filament runout switch. I found that the body of my micro switch came apart. So when I loaded new filament, it didn't recognize it and wouldn't allow me to resume. So I removed the right side cover and the fan, and I wedged in a shim to keep the switch body together, and it now works flawlessly. I think I made a video of it. Other than it takes a LONG time to heat the bed and its noisy as hell, it has been a good printer. It does make me money so I can't complain. Huge step up from the snapmaker original. I ordered $70 worth of 2020 extruded T- slot and a few sheets of acrylic to build my own enclosure. Works magnificently for a fraction of the price but still looks the part.
Not gonna lie I was really excited for this concept. However, it seems cumbersome to change the head and re-dial things in every single time. Seems like different machines should stay separate honestly. Incredible build quality though. Would love to see some printers designed with these high quality extrusions.
Or it might be just one Produkt iteration away from successfully joining it all in one Maschine. I think they are almost there. Remaining problems are not that hard to figure out
Several of us who own Snapmaker 2's have 3D-printed quick-swap brackets for the tool heads, and have devised ways of adding the bed change-overs without having to redo all those screws.
@@savejeff15 If they made an all-in-one, it would be very heavy. Heavy = slow. It would be a mediocre 3D printer, a mediocre laser, but maybe an OK CNC.
I just ordered the new Version of this all-in-one machine, the Artisan, which has been greatly evolved. You can switch between all 3 modes in less then half minute, laser has 10W instead of 1600 mW, the Router is stronger and the machine in general is faster and can handle much bigger load with an encloser which allows high temperature printing. All in all the Artisan is a great improvement against the old snapmaker you have tested here and it should get reviewed, too, imho.
Thank you very much for taking the time to add links. This has been very helpful. I own a 350 but have also just bought the Artisan. It's a GREAT improvement on the 350. Jim Bell (Australia)
I don't own any of these type of machines but you did a fantastic job of reviewing this model. Thanks.
I just finished assembly on an a250, and I echo you on pretty much everything you've said about it. Yet, you've come through again with the kirimoto option. I too found my imports vastly distorted when using Luban. If they could work on the sound problems as well as show some love and attention to Luban, this would easily be an all-in-one that any maker would be proud to own.
Good review and an impressive machine. I suspect it will get better as new versions are built. Another reason to get this verses three separate machines is Space. Not everyone has the space to house three machines, especially for those who live in apartments.
An impressive machine? It's whooping 2000$. For that amount of money I can buy 7 CR-5s which print far better than this one. CNC is good only for wood and other soft materials. Laser engraver can be purchased for less than that. It's just style over function.
@@MladenMijatov I live in a small apartment, and I am considering this because space is at a premium for me. I would LOVE to have three separate machines that are specialized, but I simply don't have the room.
@@wyattsunkel1048 better have some tolerant neighbours then!
It should be mentioned that they are working hard on improving the psu fan noise and silent steppers. and even better, they have a rotary module for 4th axis laser and CNC work that is accompanied with a emergency stop button and they're working hard on both a dual extruder print head and a multi material module such as the mmu2 from prusa.
Willem van asten: That will be interesting to see... hopefully they will have enough sense to give it to Michael for a thorough and unbiased review?!
Excellent job dude. Changing out modules and basic need to know info. With all the videos I've watched, you covered the grounds of mostly all of them. 4 thumbs up. 👍
Very well done tutorial. It really enlightened me and opened my eyes on things to consider in purchasing one of these.
I had the Snapmaker Original, direct from Kickstarter. I sold it again after 2 months: it was just too loud. I could not run it during the night, or during the homeoffice time of my wife. The SnapMaker V1 also had a much smaller volume: 110mm in all directions, and no heated bed. I discovered that I never used the CNC head because I was afraid of the dust. I used the laser only twice, because I wasn't prepared for the smell in my apartment. And for just 3D print it was too loud and too small for me. It worked great, though. For beginners it was/is a great machine... I now have a Prusa MK3 :-)
I like how detailed this vid is, as I am doing research on what to get as far as brand and model. Thanks
Fantastic review and I really enjoyed it, funny enough I just got an email from one of my suppliers about this so the review was timely.
Quality abounds with this unit but it really baffles me that they would leave it so loud and use the old stepper drivers. Very odd, perhaps there is some reason I just don’t know.
Quality machine let down a bit by the software as when you are paying this amount of money you really should not have to use third party software to get round limitations.
The killer for me is the mess and all the cleaning.
To be honest for me at least it has to be a no.
I would rather buy a separate laser and Cnc machine and keep them separate but I do admire their attention to detail and high quality but it’s not for me.
They shouldnt even sell the laser without the enclosure. Someone who wants to cheap out is going to blind himself permanantly. Btw 1600mw is enough power to cause eye damage when you look at the laser spot, if you are not wearing laser goggles.
You're right but there is still going to be someone on ebay who will sell the laser module without the enclosure
@@ethanm1943 yep
At least they include laser googles that look pretty decent though tbh
@@BenCos2018 Imo goggles are not suited for something that is on for hours or days and can damage youre vision so easily. Are you really dedicating a whole room to the printer so you dont have to wear goggles for days or are you going to remember to put them one everytime you walk in that room. People tend to underestimate how fast lasers damage youre vision.
@@terra54 I agree with you
I was just adding that they do at least include some kind of safety tbh
You get green \ amber safety glasses last I checked it was multiple pairs, with the unit that is to be used when using the laser even if you are using the enclosure
Hi Mike
Very nice video thought I would bite the bullet there was a used one for sale in our area. After this video decided on upgrade the printers I have instead. One machine I have is the Tevo Black Widow all stock was having issues with the different big name slicers. I like the layout and look of the the slicer you were showing Luban thought I would give it a try it being free and you can customize. Was very impressed with results nice to navigate through all the settings I need even tree support. Thanks for introducing the new software have a great day. thanks
The loud steppers are hard to overcome because the machine also does CNC milling, which requires a lot of torque, meaning some really beefy steppers running at high voltage.
Can de stepper motor drivers be updated with silent ones? I would love to see you updating and tinkering this machine
Snapmaker are currently working on new linear rails with silent stepper motors and the power supply box upgrade with a quieter fan.
@@jhk22 thats aweasome!!! I would like to see if its user upgradable though.
@@tonialzola as far as I can find, it's not possible to replace it yourself
@@lazarjovic9948 : Anything is possible... but could you forgive yourself for butchering such a nicely made machine! :o)
Glad this is finally getting reviewed. Seems like a really neat platform (maybe short of being more open source and user modable (extruder swap etc) )
And i bet it is rough for these small companies to break out and get some pr etc
If there was a v3 that was more modable and could handle aluminium it would be one HELL of a machine
I've dealt with scaling issues in the past on other CO2 machines, typically what has caused this is design softwares not saving in metric/imperial correctly or different softwares not interpreting the scale. I'd sometimes see this as well in Cura.
Whew! Thank You! I almost pulled the trigger on buying one of these today for $2600. Nope!
I love the 400 Newton Meter laser.
400nm is Nanometer as the wavelength of the color, but yeah its a really good als well done Review :P
If it wouldnt be that frigging expensive id buy it. Just for the laser and cnc functionality.
Always nice to see an Aussie doing reviews and putting their take on stuff like this. Really appreciate your take on this stuff. Greets from Brisbane.
Never understood the slow printing speeds they use in their standard Luban profiles. I can print on my A350 at the same high speed as at my heavily modified Ender 5 Plus, which results in comparable nice print quality. The only thing that takes longer on the A350 is the recovery of your hearing... I think the major advantage of this 3-in-1 machine is not really the time, experience or energy you'll be saving, but the space you save compared with when you need 3 same sized dedicated machines in your appartment...
Thanks for watching and sharing. This one is being donated to my best friend so we'll see if they want to try other software or tweak the profiles in Luban. Space wise, I think with the enclosure this takes up the room of two machines.
Love your review Michael. Like always very professional, a must for all of us! Thank You!
That’s actually quite scary that you would leave the laser running over night while you sleep buddy unless you stayed up for 30 hours… plz be careful bud all it takes is and ember too stray of and you have a bad time on your hands all the best bro and stay safe mate
Awesome as usual! I think the other thing why this is better than the option of building or buying separately is due to space! This machine has a larger footprint but if you bought 3 machines capable of doing these functions at the same sizes, then you would need at least 3X the space just to have them! I am a cheap bastard and do not like the price, especially with the software issues and why would they only use a PTFE lined hotend rather than a full metal one??? but I can see with the quality of the actual frame it is worth a bit more than a single machine, just not what they are asking (convenience price tags are getting higher and higher it seems).
I would love to hear if you can swap out the hotend, extruder, fans, etc with aftermarket parts or if once you buy this, are you stuck in their ecosystem and have to pay whatever they want to replace the parts.
Just change the fan out of the power supply. Problem solved... Change the bed to a glass one another problem solved. My printer doesn’t seem to be nearly as noisy as yours after I changed out the power supply fan. I have 10 other 3d printers and the Snapmaker by far is the best “Out of the box” printer.
How did you change the fan?
You mentioned that you had to recalibrate the Z axis when 3D printing. I have had this issue with a Delta Wasp & found it necessary to calibrate with a hot bed to compensate for thermal expansion
Thanks for a great review. I will check out CNC kitchens as well. I own the A350+enclosure as well. I think luban is the worst part. I didn't have something to compare the noise to, but I'm glad to know it's subpar. Would you consider a video upgrading the sm2 stepper motors? Thanks for all your hard work!
The design of this machine is good in fact it's real eye candy, but that noise! if I had to come up with an analogy to describe this machine it would be "Serving a turd on a silver platter"
I have just changed one of my Ender 3's and a CR-10 to silent driver boards as their noise is slightly annoying but this thing is in a league of its own, who in their right mind would sign off on this driver/motor combination?
Easy to set up. Print quality is very good for the money.
I got a Snapmaker 2.0 A350 on the Kickstarter. Received the unit in May 2020 and I have had issues with the auto bed leveling since day one. When printing some areas of the print are too far away from the bed and some are too close to bed. I have gone through the bed leveling process multiple times with no improvement. I have also adjusted the sensor on the print head using Snapmaker’s guide with no improvement. I have emailed Snapmaker about the issue and was told to remove the screws in each corner of bed which changed nothing. It’s now a year later and it’s still not fixed. I feel like Snapmaker is ignoring the issue. There are a lot of posts on their forum from other people having this issue but no fix yet from Snapmaker. As for everything else, the laser engraver and CNC work great. I just wish they would fix the auto bed leveling issue because if they did it would be a great machine. P.S. It is noisy as hell so if you need something quite get something else.
I was given a Snapmaker 2.0 A350 as a graduation present after finishing a two year 3D-technician course. Long story short is that it wasn't a positive experience.
First off is the noise. The machine stood in the basement and even with the doors closed one could still hear it. Second was the inconsistent auto-calibration. No matter how many times I calibrated with all the different settings I could barely get any prints which didn't turn into spaghetti goo. Filament got stuck to the nozzle or the filament got loose from the build plate (or both). Changing temperatures, Z offset and filaments made no difference.
At first glance it seemed the machine didn't have any standard components (which is something I could be wrong about of course) and the addons sold separately were quite expensive. An emergency stop button should come included with any CNC/laser machine.
Speaking of CNC and laser, at the time I didn't have any project which required those workflows so I never tried them and therefore can't give an opinion about it.
The native slicer software Luban was quite cumbersome to use and I quickly put it aside for Cura instead. Also files sliced in Luban would take a really long time to print where in Cura it would take 1/3 of the time.
In the end I sold it and bought a Creality CR-10 V2 and I don't regret it a second. The V2 just works, it's much more quiet than the Snapmaker and there's some upgrades/mods one could do.
I've seen some awesome stuff people have made with their Snapmakers so it seems I only had a bad experience but in the end I'm happy to have replaced it with a CR-10 V2 and if I ever decide to jump into CNC and laser I probably buy separate dedicated machines for those tasks instead of having an all-in-one machine.
The 3d prints can be started from luban also you don't need to be at the machine, click the play button in the workspace on the top left of the work area.
I simply don't have the *space* for three dedicated machines, which seems like it'd be a pretty powerful argument for someone in that position.
As it is, I don't have enough need for the CNC or laser cutting to justify the cost, and the local Fab Lab is right across the road...
things that try to do everything often don't do any of them very well
Jack of all trades, master of none
I’m considering a Snapmaker 2 since I do not have the space for multiple machines but would like all 3 functions. Your review looks very fair. From what I understand from Snapmaker and other reviews is that Snapmaker has listened to the critics and made some adjustments like reducing the noice, which would be a deal breaker for me since I have to work in the same area. Could you comment on those so called improvements and update or new modules (like horizontal rotary module and 10W high power laser module) ?
Did you end up buying the Snapmaker? If you need to ask anything feel free..
Good review, thanks. I agree, the machine is EXTREMELY noisy and bad cable management for something this expensive.
WOW! Gorgeous looking kit/machine.
At 5:00 it's 450 nanometres, not Newton metre.
Nanometres describes the wavelength (color) of some light
Newton metre are for torque of rotating objects
Wow that laser has a lot of torque!
It's a shame to see such a well built machine let down by noisy fans and drivers and I was beginning to drool up to the point you turned it on - at least it is an easy fix for the manufacturers . Did you take a look at what drivers they were using ?
One problem with this unit is the leadscrews on the X & Y axis - after some use they will get some backlash and this will cause some issues , ball screws would have been better .
Great review as always. Thanks!
Your videos are simply amazing. Thanks for this thorough review! You used the CNC to cut some acrylic - have you tried cutting acrylic with the laser cutter?
I wonder if we'll ever get a truly good AIO system. Every time it's a "jack of all trades" situation, feeding the "well just buy three separate, good machines" argument, and why the heck does it always feel like a "3D printer + extras" affair when the mechanical properties just don't work well that way. Is "an okay 3D printer with a lackluster milling attachment" really more useful than, say, "an okay cnc mill with a lackluster 3D printing attachment"? That's not a rhetorical question, I'd honestly like to know if there's a reason other than "well, people seem to like buying 3D printers, so let's try to stand out of the crowd by adding some extra tat to it."
PS: I honestly don't mean to crap on this product, there's clearly a lot of care and effort put into it (or at least as far as we can tell from a video) and it's far from what I'd call a "bad" machine. I'm just wondering if there's a fundamental, conceptual problem that needs to be addressed before manufacturers come to the conclusion that they just have to try harder with what they've been doing so far.
"Jack of all trades, master of none" really applies to machines like this
I think the issue is just that making a machine good enough to actually do all three of these things is, fundamentally, flawed financially. Anyone with enough money to to buy something engineered well enough to carry out *both* routing and 3D printing to a 'good' level probably has the spare room for both machines, bearing in mind that things good for CNC (heavy frames, big motors) as well as the mess created can be a negative for 3D printing. I think the Snapmaker is priced and engineered very carefully with this in mind. I certainly think they could improve some things without incurring too much cost (could they really not think of a way to avoid having to totally swap all the beds around? Or a decent vacuum attached to the CNC end to at least do *some* of the cleaning for you?) but there are pretty good reasons why a truly good and consumer friendly AIO feels very unlikely.
Hey Michael! Thanks for the review... Out of curiosity, are you still using the Lowrider 2 for any projects?
So, not excelling at any task. Hmmm. I really was looking forward to this one, as I already have 2 3d printers, ill just get my laser engraver separatedly and then maybe ill just get a cnc machine later.
Bummer. I like the idea of having all in 1.
BTW, do you know about a cnc machine with a tad bit larger work area (say 40 cm x 40cm at least) that can support a 4th axis?
The newer versions will be more silent (F250-F350-A250T-A350T). Steppers and power module. Wonder how mush more silent.
The snapmaker 2.0 may be decent for the price, but that enclosure price😬 all of the components would be easily acquired and built for probably 1/3rd what they charge
I got one from the Kickstarter and I sold it. The printer was way too slow and the motors and PSU were very loud. I also really didn't like the door of the enclosure - it just didn't shut or open smoothly at all. I wasn't a fan of the software workflow. Also, changing tools is a huge hassle. It all added up to an extremely slow, cumbersome, and loud experience. I think they can easily fix most of these things and I hope they do
Sold my machine too. Replaced it with a Creality CR-10 V2
Hello, is it the best 3 in 1 in the market !?
I'm really interested buying a 3 in. 1 as a side hustle. so , if can advise me plz !? 🙏
I’m curious - the top link after this video is for the Creality CP-01 that also does all these things, and is also from this same channel. So, how do these two compare?
i have a €100 laser engraver from Aliexpress, it does everything via lightburn and better than the snapmaker. It just can't cut because i got the cheapest one.
Are the newer AT models noticeably quieter or is it still annoying? Thanks.
If one was to buy 3 machines over an A350t - which I am considering, what machines would be of equal comparison in quality?
I have a 350 with the rotary and the biggest problem with this snapmaker2.0 is luban. Iam not a computer person and I find luban tedious and a total waste of time. If there is a way to use the snapmaker2.0 without luban please let us know. I love lightburn and freecad! Ialso have a. Long mill cnc and comgrow and Sculpfun S9 laser.
Is the absence of ball screws explainable by the price? I guess with high lead ball screws, the speed could be doubled, couldn't it?
how come all the reviews video of SM doesn't include laser engraving on transparent acrylic?
Laser wavelength is in nano meters, not Newton meters.
Oh damn, that noise is a dealbreaker for me. However, my Ender3 V2 is at the same level due to its fans, but at least I can change them. Drifting bed leveling is also something I don't want to see in 2000 Dollar machines. Otherwise it's a very nice package.
Cool video. You have a link to order so youll get a kickback?
Been researching for a while and after this I'm going for this machine.
Great showing options at the start.
Great upload!
Got this and was excited to get started built it and it didn’t work sending it back for a refund and to get it again
Hello,
I am currently looking at the sale of Snapmaker 2.0 with 10W laser, I wonder if I can cut acrylic (2mm) and PETG that is glued to photo paper (both about 2mm) with the laser?
I am new to laser cutting, and will need a laser to do the above things but I just found it interesting have a 3d printer too, would you recommend the snapmaker for the above?
I am also concerned about the fumes, I will really appreciate feedback on that too and how to handle it (forum or a guide that I can read will be welcome too).
Thank you and keep up the good work doing such detailed videos. I subscribed :)
Hello there; I would like to congratulate you about the amazing tutorials you have on your page. I have the snapmaker 2.5. I am trying to use the. 3D printing but the model I want to make does not stick on the bed. I do not know why. Could you please help me out to find out the problem. I would appreciate it. Thank you!
Love the jacket ... for Ricciardo at redbull?
Great review! Going to get one soon!
Just when I thought I was safe... Chuck Norris finds me again.
Glenn Leader: Lurking in a dark corner!
Michael was less than happy with this print, because it was darker than he wanted... I really liked it; it was clearly Chuck, but the shaded areas gave it a moody feel.
@@PiefacePete46 It gave me the "Oh no, he's found me again" feeling.
I would rather buy a Genmitsu Prover 4030 router for $999, an Ortur 400 x 430mm laser maser II for
It appears the machine looks high end, however they cheaped out in several areas. That 1500mw laser..... LOL I bought a 2000mw laser for less than $200 USD over 5 years ago. For the cost of that machine, that should have been at the minimum a 10 watt LED laser today.
For not a huge amount more you could get an e3d tool changer with the discount. The snapmaker looks like something no one really asked for.
The other benefit of a 3 in 1 is that you save a lot of space. And if you only need 2 features you get the 3rd for free for possible future use. But I wouldn't suggest this for only 1 use. Especially as just a 3D printer
That laser wattage looks way too low for what you're paying. I've seen a 5-watt cut and etch much faster.
I bought this printer recently, and I ate most of the parts so I was not able to put it together unfortunately.
A very pretty machine, but fails in areas that cheaper machines do not. Just because a tool moves in 3 axis, does not mean that one 3 axis moving tool can do the work of 3 axis tools designed for a specific task. The machine is far too slow. By going slow you can get away with flimsy construction, and the flimsy design and puny low speed spindle, means it is severely restricted in 3d milling. Of course it will work, but painfully. But, it looks very pretty. It will suit a number of folk that I am aware of, but if it was given to me, I'd just use it for parts, as you would with a cheaper ender3.
a six hundred dollar box... we truly do live in the future.
Good review, thank you.
For something called the snapmaker you'd figure the heads would just snap on
Love the disclosure at the start of the video, i think you should go into slightly more detail like Thomas Sanladerer, also starting if the machine gets returned or not, but already it's great stuff
Des it have an adapter for coffee cups?
Can anyone comment on the improved steppers etc, on upgraded version of the 350, the high-powered lazer module and the roary modules? ie the 'evolution of the A350 from the May 2021 date of this video?
Did you contact them for the review or did they contact you?
I ben waiting for this review. Not sure how I feel about it.
What type of nozzle is it running? Looks like an MK8?