Snapmaker 2.0 REVIEW - All-Metal 3D Printer/Laser Cutter/CNC Router

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  • Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
  • The Snapmaker 2.0 is the second iteration of a modular motion system that can 3D print, laser engrave, and cut as well as CNC route by changing the tool head. Let's find out if such a multi-purpose machine can work!
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  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen  3 года назад +33

    Any questions or thoughts on the Snapmaker 2.0?
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    • @antonrickert9427
      @antonrickert9427 3 года назад +3

      You're back! Yay

    • @JohnSmith-xj7gq
      @JohnSmith-xj7gq 3 года назад

      I just ordered one and they are suppose to be coming out with an improved laser module this year.

    • @BeefIngot
      @BeefIngot 3 года назад

      How can it do the PTFE lined hot end at 275 degrees safely? Is it a special blend of PTFE?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  3 года назад +2

      Throw away the filament that came with the machine, that's garbage. I used the "regular quality + PLA" setting in the latest version of Luban. The filament was Colorfabb PLA/PVA but any other quality PLA will do as well.

    • @thealmightysnark5878
      @thealmightysnark5878 3 года назад

      Is there any way to align SVG files that are meant for the lasers? I saw you could move and scale it, but a parametric way to constrain it would be even more sensible and probably desirable for some?

  • @polo94700
    @polo94700 10 месяцев назад +34

    The ink tank system appears to be much better than the cartridge system ruclips.net/user/postUgkxciSwynMJ7PnUvvx11rewiu-yFBkZTl53 and a lot cheaper to run. The machine was easy to set up. A small point but I thought they'd be a USB cable included to help with the set up but there was none. I've been using it now for a few weeks and it seems like a good product and superior to my previous printers which were all troublesome HP machines.

  • @CraftySven
    @CraftySven 3 года назад +158

    I couldn't believe it doesn't have an emergency button !
    That's a MUST on a CNC

    • @neuroblossom
      @neuroblossom 3 года назад +5

      You can get one now as an official accessory

    • @acekiller2505
      @acekiller2505 3 года назад

      @@neuroblossom Where? I just looked and cant find one for my A350.

    • @neuroblossom
      @neuroblossom 3 года назад +3

      @@acekiller2505 I could be wrong but they were offered to kickstarter backers as an early preorder. If you were a backer then check your email for a link to a shop where you can buy them early. Sorry for the confusion, my mistake.

    • @acekiller2505
      @acekiller2505 3 года назад +8

      @@neuroblossom nah don’t worry about it. We all make mistakes. Unfortunately I was a later backer that got my machine early for some reason. Orders in august 2020 and got my snapmaker December 17 I think. So I guess I’ll just have to keep waiting :)

    • @neuroblossom
      @neuroblossom 3 года назад +2

      btw, there's a couple of really active and supportive snapmaker groups on FB, try searching for Snapmaker Enthusiasts & Users Group and Snapmaker Owners. You can also see a lot of cool stuff other people are making, I recommend it.

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 3 года назад +18

    This is the first 3 in 1 I have seen that actually works. well done Snapmaker!

  • @make.anything
    @make.anything 3 года назад +72

    Excellent review! Technical and thorough as always :)

  • @recurveninja
    @recurveninja 3 года назад +106

    An e-stop being a purchasable addon is incredibly egregious.

    • @_Piers_
      @_Piers_ 3 года назад +15

      Yeah, it'd be an entirely negligible additional cost to include one with it and they absolutely should have done.

    • @davidcullen4996
      @davidcullen4996 3 года назад +5

      Its their Apple dongle strategy all over again, sorry I should say ecosystem.

    • @blepblep8267
      @blepblep8267 3 года назад +7

      considering its most-likely just a generic on/off button with a fancy casing, it definately should just come with it.

    • @jimmyers3219
      @jimmyers3219 3 года назад +15

      @@blepblep8267 True E-stop buttons are not generic. In the US they must achieve ANSI certification for appearance/style/functionality conformity, durability, reliability/repeatability & safety circuit contact redundancy. The cost is not a deal breaker, but, while likely a few times greater than a simple input button, still is minimal in relation to the cost of this unit.
      Like you suggest, it *definitely* should be included.

    • @blepblep8267
      @blepblep8267 3 года назад +8

      @@jimmyers3219 you can buy a pack of 2 off amazon for 10$. they're pretty generic.

  • @AdrianWolf_in_TO
    @AdrianWolf_in_TO 3 года назад +18

    I remember back in the day (when I was in my Engineering classes and learning to write G-code "by hand") you had to adjust the speed very granularly depending on the size of the cutting bit, the speed of rotation, and the desired cutting speed of the radius. That was to avoid exceeding the limits for the tool bit and breaking a bit meant you failed that assignment. That was a VERY long time ago though and I'd hope that the newer software handles all of that on the fly when it generates the G-code. Granted, for 3d printing and laser cutting that makes no difference -- but for CNC it is critical.

    • @jimmyers3219
      @jimmyers3219 3 года назад +2

      The sort of understanding you describe really gives one a feel for the process & how critical are the tooling/workpiece material, tool path & spindle speed. Having software provide these process parameters is quick & dirty, but a bit numb as they make minimal deposits into the bank of machining experience.
      Another lesser consideration is the formation of & the amount/shape of workpiece chip production & the system's ability to remove it from the process's business district. The reviewer's shopvac technique seems adequate for the small tasks which seem to suit this system. A pneumatic air flush flex nozzle attached near the spindle would be handy (but messy) & seemingly a bit safer.

  • @BrodieFairhall
    @BrodieFairhall 3 года назад +10

    I was lucky enough to get a Snapmaker 2 in February 2020, your review is fantastic and echo's my feelings on the machine pretty closely. It's perfect for me given the limited amount of workshop space I have.

  • @SusiBiker
    @SusiBiker 3 года назад +3

    These multi-machines are not meant for serious engineering, but for the hobbyist, they are a game-changer. I'd love to be able to afford something like this myself.
    Great review. Thank you.

  • @rebelsoul9609
    @rebelsoul9609 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for taking time to make this review. A real adventure piece for the hobbyist

  • @WHSHAFT
    @WHSHAFT 3 года назад +1

    Yay. I have one and so glad to see you review it. Been happy with mine so far, but I am definitely building a soundproof ventilated box for it.

  • @hyperionhelios190
    @hyperionhelios190 3 года назад +8

    The snapmaker 2.0 A350 was my first printer and only received in December. I'm so excited that you were able to get one and review it. Hopefully more Snapmaker content on the channel! I've already ordered a replacement PSU exhaust fan.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  3 года назад +1

      Nice, how do you like yours so far?

    • @hyperionhelios190
      @hyperionhelios190 3 года назад +1

      @@CNCKitchen I love it! I bought it because I'm a wood worker and really envisioned myself using the laser and CNC significantly more than printer but I've found myself falling in love with printing too. It has some flaws, bed flatness has been a challenge for many and they did have issues with linear modules failing at one point but that seems to have mostly subsided.

  • @ayush8226
    @ayush8226 3 года назад +2

    Nice! I got one of these and a few days ago one linear module wouldn’t respond. So I contacted support and they quickly responded and solved the problem.

  • @TheJacklwilliams
    @TheJacklwilliams 3 года назад

    The most comprehensive show available on these sujects Stefan. Incredible, thanks for sharing. Great product, but I believe I'll opt for separate.

  • @JohnOCFII
    @JohnOCFII 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the really thorough review. Like you, I assumed this machine would not perform well, and was pleased to see it performed as well as it did. As you said - the trick is deciding if you should start down the path of a consolidated machine, with its pros and cons or work towards purchasing or building 3 separate machines.

  • @randomidiot8142
    @randomidiot8142 3 года назад +1

    Something missing in the world is more good honest reviews. Thanks 👍

  • @justinhair7268
    @justinhair7268 3 года назад +3

    Fantastic video, I was not planning on watching the whole thing, but I couldn't stop watching!

  • @jedirogar
    @jedirogar 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for this vid!! I was really curious about this printer/cutter/Cnc!!! This is the best review on it that I’ve seen!!

  • @abrokeengineer967
    @abrokeengineer967 3 года назад +1

    From a A350 and official enclosure owner: the noise is indeed a problem, but can solved with easy hacks the community found! For example, setting the machine on the foam it came with would reduce the machining noise by almost 50%! And replacing the fan on the PSU(or simply removing it) would make the machine almost completely silent! The laser fumes and optical risk are not a problem when you have the enclosure, nor is the print bed temperature, I printed a bunch of abs on my A350, and there was no problem at all. (A350 can actually reach 100C with its bed but they don't mark it on the book). I love the machine, though there are flaws, but they are continuing being ironed out by Snapmaker, which is a big pro.

  • @adamsbeforeaftercreations7625
    @adamsbeforeaftercreations7625 3 года назад +2

    I love this machine. I have the OG and 2.0, churning out prints like a pro

  • @Omar-kw5ui
    @Omar-kw5ui 3 года назад +1

    Wow what a fantastic channel. You do great reviews and in-depth analysis. Very well done. I had to sub after seeing a few videos. Top job.

  • @roybotnik
    @roybotnik 3 года назад

    Seems like a tremendous amount of effort went into designing this machine. Great review.

  • @avejst
    @avejst 3 года назад

    Great video as always 👍
    Love your honest opinion on this device.
    Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😊

  • @syranth8912
    @syranth8912 2 года назад

    If I ever get a printfarm together this is a great looking finishing system. I'm sold because of your fair review.

  • @christopherfrawley2560
    @christopherfrawley2560 3 года назад +8

    Great review, I have the snapmaker 2.0 and I feel like you covered most of it. The enclosure really does make a difference in everything you can do with the machine but how can you know if they dont have you review it right? The end remarks about if you should buy it or not are spot on! Nice job!

  • @ElGroggy
    @ElGroggy 3 года назад +2

    Finally I was waiting for a honest review
    Thanks, I had the last bit of information needed for what I wanted

  • @Mobile_Dom
    @Mobile_Dom 3 года назад +29

    that die cast y carriage is gorgeous!
    would be interesting to see this with some TMC5160s, the stepper drivers designed for monstrous NEMA23 type stuff, should have no issue with this, and quieter too

    • @knytetech7732
      @knytetech7732 3 года назад +4

      The snapmaker is closed source - you're not swapping the stepper drivers on this. The stepper drivers are actually in the linear modules, and are soldered to the boards.

    • @aarond.8904
      @aarond.8904 3 года назад

      @@knytetech7732 yup, the machine itself is the only thing about snapmaker that isn’t open source. Not to mention that even though the stepper motors are NEMA23 they ordered them with custom specs and will only work for snapmaker.

  • @matthewweinberger7023
    @matthewweinberger7023 3 года назад +19

    this is definitely a step in the right direction, previous printers have been much worse and this is a massive step up, cant wait to see a day when a all in one becomes standard

  • @acekiller2505
    @acekiller2505 3 года назад

    I got mine about 3 months ago and so far I am very happy with my purchase and don’t care if it lacks in a few places on each function. I knew that buying it. I find it dumb how some people are judging the machine in how it cant do ONE thing perfectly. Can’t wait for the Addons to come out! :D

  • @garagemonkeysan
    @garagemonkeysan 3 года назад

    Great video and review. I can imagine more of this type of convergence from other manufacturers. Mahalo for sharing! : )

  • @o.brbian6794
    @o.brbian6794 3 года назад

    Nice Concept. 'd love to see more content like this!

  • @ChrisWilliams-pu8pj
    @ChrisWilliams-pu8pj 3 года назад +1

    Your usual wonderful objective review. Thank you!

  • @joshcosco2
    @joshcosco2 3 года назад

    This really helped! Great info and review!

  • @WoLpH
    @WoLpH 3 года назад +2

    Honestly... a machine like this has always been the ideal in my mind. Practically I never expected it to be good enough though.

  • @SinceNightmoon
    @SinceNightmoon 2 года назад

    Thanks Sir! You safed me from buying my first over priced 3D printer I'm still searching a beginner 3D printer.

  • @shaussta1359
    @shaussta1359 3 года назад

    Best Snapmaker review I could find ! 👍

  • @jeffwecker
    @jeffwecker 3 года назад

    Excellent review and much appreciated! Thank you so much.

  • @Hans-ChristianSchwartz
    @Hans-ChristianSchwartz 3 года назад

    Very good review, thanks Stephan

  • @enekuda05
    @enekuda05 3 года назад

    I preordered right after the Kickstart ended and got mine in November. Best decision I've ever made! Thing is amazing, we'll built and easy to use, but has upgrade paths for the more advanced

  • @TheSchnabsiX
    @TheSchnabsiX 3 года назад +5

    I use my A350 for 3D prints as well as for PCBs with the laser for the photo resist and the CNC for drilling and cutting the PCB. It is not as good as dedicated machines, but it's really good for a 3 in 1. I also have it in the enclosure (it comes with dorr detection, exhaust fan + duct and lighting, which cuts back on the noise a lot. It's also great for the laser because the panels of the enclosure are blocking the laser.

  • @ebpman
    @ebpman 3 года назад +9

    Great review! I am posting my review of the product tomorrow. I wish it was quieter too. The Case is a most in my opinion. It gets dusty and the smell when using laser isn't good.

    • @UnitSe7en
      @UnitSe7en 3 года назад

      That's not the purpose of the case. I hope you realise.

  • @woodcat7180
    @woodcat7180 3 года назад +91

    "Jack of all trades, master of none"

    • @LukePettit3dArtist
      @LukePettit3dArtist 3 года назад +19

      The rest of that quote goes on to say "though oftentimes better than master of one" hahaha

    • @iAmTheSquidThing
      @iAmTheSquidThing 3 года назад +1

      Hey, they's me!

    • @jerribuilt
      @jerribuilt 3 года назад

      If you are lucky enough for your machine to last longer than a week.

    • @Spirit532
      @Spirit532 3 года назад +2

      "Jank of all trades, master of none" would be more applicable here.

  • @kurai3x
    @kurai3x 6 месяцев назад

    Great review. I appreciate the attention given to the software.

  • @choschiba
    @choschiba 3 года назад +1

    Incredible 👌🏼 detailed review. That’s a machine I would really love to test.

  • @echannover48
    @echannover48 3 года назад +19

    In the EU the machine has to be sold with the Enclosure to meet the CE-Certification standard. That makes the machine more expensive of course, but takes care of the laser-safety issues (and also makes the noise level a bit more tolerable).
    As someone that was fortunate enough to test the A350 myself, I absolutely agree with everything you said. I love the machine, even if it is not perfect. Great Review. :)

    • @Argysh
      @Argysh 3 года назад

      I'm in the EU and got it without. I'm waiting with the laser until I've finished building a proper enclosure though anyway. (focus on noise reduction right after laser safety)

  • @andrewvillavicencio8496
    @andrewvillavicencio8496 3 года назад +3

    Great review, thanks! I bought the A350 when the kickstarter was going on. I agree with your observations, nice machine but VERY loud!

  • @anthonyrich1592
    @anthonyrich1592 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for the fascinating review, Stefan.
    This seems to the best combo machine review I've seen so far, but it's odd to me that they spent time on "bells and whistles" features, like having a light-up USB socket for the thumbdrive, while ignoring some of the glaring basic issues, like still having a flimsy bed for machining and the lack of an e-stop switch ON THE CONTROLLER AS STANDARD.
    Although it's not outstanding at any one discipline it seems to work quite well for a combo machine and would probably be OK for a hobbyist wanting to do small laser/machining projects in addition to 3D printing. But if you're serious about all three disciplines you'd be better served with purpose-built machines. I couldn't see a combo machine supporting a 40-80 watt CO2 laser for working on shiny metal workpieces, for example. I'd be interested to see how well the 3D printing actually works: I'd expect to see backlash issues be more evident on actual test prints like the XYZ Cube because organic prints, like the busts you were printing, "hide a multitude of sins."
    I can see the potential in such combo platforms, though, and the appeal for a small operator that doesn't have space for three separate machines (e.g.: an apartment dweller), so I'd be interested to see how much better a Snapmaker 3.0 could be once they've taken all of the feedback from Snapmaker 2.0 on board.

  • @euchiron
    @euchiron 3 года назад

    I tried the version 1 about a year ago. Very cool idea. I enjoyed it but had to return it because there was a flaw in the controller - it wouldn't turn off after a few weeks. I eventually went with something that was a better fit for my needs. I feel the same about the 2.0 but might consider it again if my needs change.

  • @kkloikok
    @kkloikok 3 года назад

    Been working on a design for one of these for a few years in my spare time. This looks like a good cots option

  • @StuartChatwood
    @StuartChatwood 2 года назад

    Great review!

  • @MagicalPorkChop
    @MagicalPorkChop 3 года назад +3

    I got one as an early Kickstarter backer - had it for about 12 months. The A250 is my first 3d printer (and laser engraver and CNC router to boot).
    Certainly agree with all of Stefan's criticisms - it's noisy and not fast, also not powerful on the laser or CNC fronts.
    My main motivation for getting a multifunction device like this was I didn't have much space in the apartment I was renting - a single device on a bench is much smaller than three. I also didn't want to be limited to just 3d printing. Turns out I've had good cause to use the other toolheads as well.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  3 года назад

      Thanks for confirming my findings.

    • @MagicalPorkChop
      @MagicalPorkChop 3 года назад

      You're welcome.
      I've been following your channel for a while now and was interested in your thoughts on how much of a compromise was made for the additional functions of this device.

  • @sayhigs
    @sayhigs 3 года назад

    Gr8 and honest review.
    Keep it up

  • @madhunugg
    @madhunugg 3 года назад +4

    Ooh! Are you planning a build video/series for the voron?

  • @Nordern
    @Nordern 3 года назад +42

    Simply put, when i get the space for it, i will get one of these machines!

    • @fiberop635
      @fiberop635 3 года назад +5

      Please don't lol. This machine is trash man. There are some small routers thats are cable or you can build your own that would be capable as well.
      This thing is a gimmick nothing else. Buy a decent printer for a couple hundred bucks and then buy a decent desktop mill for a couple thousand.
      To give perspective if yiu say convert a pm25 to cnc you could actually mill parts. Its 1500 bucks plus the conversion parts.
      Using a endmil that is practically a needle to mill out parts is a joke.

    • @Nordern
      @Nordern 3 года назад +4

      @@fiberop635 fair point, i already have a Ender3 Pro that is running well, so maybe looking for a mill/engraver combo instead would be a better idea

    • @jerribuilt
      @jerribuilt 3 года назад +4

      I would strongly recommend against it. I was one of the original kick starter backers, the quality of production units has absolutely tanked.
      I never had a failure with mine but many people did. 2+ months to get replacement parts. All the parts are specialized and have to be ordered from Snapmaker.
      The laser is worthless, the CNC is mostly worthless. It’s an outstanding 3D printer but Luban (the native software) is horrible. It’s 2-3 years behind Cura / Prusa slicer.
      Not to mention the whole operating system is trash, simple things like being able to disconnect from a WiFi network are not possible and they don’t care to fix issues like that.
      I sold mine and bough an Ender 3 V2, $259 printer prints 10X better.
      I would say 50% of the units I see people receiving have quality control issues. Missing parts, parts machined wrong, holes not tapped, ban liner modules out of the box, etc.

    • @DavidGarcia-nx2gj
      @DavidGarcia-nx2gj 3 года назад +1

      @@Nordern just get a 1000$ printer and a 1000$ CNC nothing will be better

    • @V9TEK1
      @V9TEK1 3 года назад

      @@Nordern Or since you have a 3D printer already, you could build yourself an MPCNC, as Mr. Kitchen mentioned by the end. There are even a few different designs of mosly 3D printed CNC machines and a lot of them are good.
      Also, never would've guessed my favourite "wheezing asthmatic & heavily edited funny moments editor" has a hand in CNC machines.

  • @santiagoblandon3022
    @santiagoblandon3022 3 года назад +1

    Wow, loved the new intro

  • @debbie09090
    @debbie09090 3 года назад

    I have the A250 and I use it for CNC machining of carbon fibre sheet and also laser cutting/engraving. I’m very happy with it. I have the enclosure and use it in a workshop environment.
    I am very happy with the results although I am pretty conservative with the feed rate for cutting with the CNC as it is a fairly light machine. If time isn’t an issue though it’s not a problem. Yes it’s noisy for a 3D printer but that’s the lead screw design requiring a lot of turns to move any distance however you need that for the CNC function where a belt drive wouldn’t really be suitable.

  • @nathansanders8613
    @nathansanders8613 3 года назад +1

    I have the a350 and Love it. I also have 10 other 3d printers. This is the best 3d printer for the money by far. I replaced the PSU fan with one from Amazon. It's almost silent now.

  • @4o413
    @4o413 3 года назад +12

    I love my A250 it's the perfect size for me
    12:00 haha I did the same mistake and destroyed the Flatt end mill

  • @SLcompany_watch
    @SLcompany_watch 3 года назад

    Very nice review. Thanks! I would get dedicated machines for each jobs.

  • @spaceknight4775
    @spaceknight4775 3 года назад +23

    6:40 O.o uhh a voron printer is getting printed :D

    • @danilolattaro
      @danilolattaro 3 года назад

      Was gonna say the same!

    • @Whipster-Old
      @Whipster-Old 3 года назад +4

      Gotta love the cheek. Lend a guy a fancy multirole machine, uses it to print a Voron.

    • @michael.knight
      @michael.knight 3 года назад +3

      He's working on a Voron V0, he bought a Formbot kit (check his twitter).

    • @Whipster-Old
      @Whipster-Old 3 года назад

      @@michael.knight thinking about a 2.4 myself. Big fan of Klipper

    • @LanceThumping
      @LanceThumping 3 года назад

      That could be interesting. I'd love for some of the bigger names in 3D printing to weigh in on the Voron.
      I've been looking at it awhile and it seems like one of the best machines around, especially for the price.

  • @treyregruth7318
    @treyregruth7318 3 года назад +16

    That laser module makes me extremely nervous, without an enclosure you wouldn't want to be very close due to the laser scattering however you can't leave it alone because you have to be prepared to shut it down if it starts a fire

    • @rdouthwaite
      @rdouthwaite 3 года назад +2

      And no E-stop either

    • @adamc7779
      @adamc7779 3 года назад

      They do sell a laser safe enclosure (at $500). Also the laser is pretty underpowered and would have great difficulty starting a fire with anything that is appropriate for a laser cutter.

    • @Arterexius
      @Arterexius 3 года назад +1

      @@adamc7779 gotta be honest and say that $500 is a pretty overpriced enclosure, considering it's only made out of protective glass and aluminum extrusions. Protective glass is expensive, yes. But that expensive? And for a company that buys in bulk? Sounds scammy to me

    • @adamc7779
      @adamc7779 3 года назад

      @@Arterexius Yeah, I certainly won't be buying one.

  • @Corollakongen
    @Corollakongen 2 года назад

    Great review it makes it easier for the decision if I will buy one or not in the future.

  • @Chris1home
    @Chris1home 3 года назад

    Awesome Video as always. Gut gemacht Stefan :D
    Would it be possible to get your settings for Prusa Slicer?

  • @beicherla
    @beicherla 3 года назад

    auf dieses Video hab ich lange gewartet =)

  • @docmatt1
    @docmatt1 3 года назад +1

    I got the A250 from the Kickstarter at $750 and the enclosure later on for $350. It's been a year since it arrived and I've been able to play around with all the modes. I primarily bought this for 3d printing and have been struggling with it the entire time. Calibration and troubleshooting had to be solved by the community as support has been slow and spotty. The noise of this machine is no joke. Even with the enclosure, I find it getting on my nerves if I don't have something else to distract me. The laser has been fun to use and was a feature I hoped to use often with this machine. The camera on it almost never works right so I've given up on using it . CNC was just a nice extra to have with the machine. I've only used it once so I can't give much feedback on it. It's much quieter than I thought it would be. I plan on purchasing a dedicated 3d printer and have the snapmaker as a dedicated laser machine and backup 3d printer.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback!

  • @TheEtbetween
    @TheEtbetween 3 года назад

    Great coverage

  • @dguy-xk4fc
    @dguy-xk4fc 2 года назад

    Nice review. Worth mentioning: The new version the 150T, 250T and 350T versions make less noise and the laser cutter went from 1600mW to 10000mW (625% stronger)

  • @stcredzero
    @stcredzero 3 года назад +5

    "Let me show you..." I was half expecting, "Its features!"

    • @n00ki
      @n00ki 3 года назад

      Not alot of slingshot fans around here :)

  • @jazzybiscayne
    @jazzybiscayne Год назад

    i wasnt amazed by the speed with my first prints either, but after watching some videos, i have changed the layer height that is standard with the snapmaker 2.0 preset built into cura from .2mm layer height to .28 layer height. This combined with increasing the mm per second to 120mm/sec allowed me to print 500% speed. I am ordering a .6mm print head to further increase the speed. you should try that out !

  • @EJTechandDIY
    @EJTechandDIY 3 года назад +14

    almost 2000 dollars and cant add some TMC2209? like come on.

    • @JanCiger
      @JanCiger 3 года назад +4

      My guess is that they needed the extra torque. TMC2209 in the StealthChop mode produces significantly lower torque from the motors. That works for 3D printing and laser but for a router on an already marginal machine (toy spindle, poor rigidity of the table, etc.) it could have been a no-go. A silent machine that ruins your work/breaks the bit because it loses steps is useless.

    • @zgrge
      @zgrge 3 года назад

      kickstarter backers got it for 1k

    • @Arterexius
      @Arterexius 3 года назад

      @@zgrge let's see if they can pull it off too then. You can promise anything on paper, but that doesn't mean it's doable

    • @zgrge
      @zgrge 3 года назад

      @@Arterexius Stefan showed that it works fine, the only issue is the sound. And laser engraver Stefan suggests costs 2.5k alone

  • @georgematousek7937
    @georgematousek7937 2 года назад

    I actually like the loud steppers, that way if something goes wrong you know immediately and can deal with it. I like the sound of machines running well and want to know when there is a problem

  • @ArdjanVideo
    @ArdjanVideo 3 года назад +1

    I had the first snapmaker, back in 2018, straight from Kickstarter. It was my first 3D printer, and I was actually rather happy with the easy of use. But it showed a few downsides soon:
    1) It was loud. I could only print during off-time of homeoffice, and not during the night...
    2) I discovered that Laser engraving and CNC was not for me. Fumes, Dust, loudness. So I never even used the CNC module, and the laser only for one weekend.
    Don't get me wrong: for beginners, it is a nice working device, capable of doing different things for a reasonable price.
    I sold it, and got a Prusa. But the buyer is still happy with with the Snapmaker...

  • @RafaelHabegger
    @RafaelHabegger 2 года назад

    Looks very interesting

  • @ianmanners3605
    @ianmanners3605 3 года назад +2

    I thohght about getting the snapmaker. But adding it up and for the same price I went for the cr10s pro and for CNC went for the Bulkmam 3D queen bee pro 1000x1000 which has a proper spindle for cnc work.

    • @ianmanners3605
      @ianmanners3605 3 года назад

      Plus extra parts support for creality and a huge community
      The queen bee pro also has support for 4th axis milling
      Both can be modified to laster cut.

  • @Aggromagnet
    @Aggromagnet 3 года назад

    Love mine. The big 2 problems I have had are bed leveling and 3d printing after a tool head change. You can spend so much time and effort dialing all the settings to get very nice prints. BUT the moment you switch out to another mode you can kiss it all goodbye. When you go back to 3d printing its like a new machine. You will get workable prints but you have to start all over on fine tuning. So your final thought really stand firm. If you want a printer that you can fine tune to print out clean sexy prints Get a standalone 3d printer. If you want a jack-of-all-trade that does well on all but not pro then this as a great way to go.

  • @Duraltia
    @Duraltia 3 года назад +3

    Yeaa... Saw the original one being used in one of my local stores during Christmas season as a Laser engraver for personalizing wooden kitchen utensils you bought in the store.
    First thing I noticed when I saw it was the lack of an enclosure while potentially doing its thing amidst a crowd of people watching their stuff getting Laser engraved ( wasn't operated when I saw it ) so I asked one of the clerks if the machine is being run at all and if so with an enclosure - "Yes & No" to which I told them they can't run this shit in the public without a Laser certified enclosure protecting everyone! - "Noted"
    Having a little bit of a trust issue I still called the local Police station and explained them the situation - The guy I reached first was hopelessly overwhelmed with my explanation but was willing to have it investigated. A day later I received a call from his colleague not only versed but _specialised_ in the topic of Laser Warfare ( apparently blinding Officers with high power Laser pens during demonstrations is a thing here 😑 ) and they not only confirmed my request but even notified the Store HQ that all locations with such a Laser engraving service running without an enclosure must immediately shut down all operations.
    That was after they investigated the situation later that day and found the guy operating the machine doing so with _his_ safety glasses located in a drawer and customers watching the show 🙄

    • @LongDono
      @LongDono 2 года назад

      Wow! Thank you for sharing, that's crazy.

  • @BenRyherd
    @BenRyherd 3 года назад +1

    My problem with multiple use machines like this, is they generally have some sort of compromise mechanically for at least one of the attachments. But the worst part is that the single thing is as expensive or more expensive than 3 separate machines. Unless you're reaaaaally tight on space it's not worth it. The snapmaker at ~$1800 could be reasonably competed with (and exceeded in some cases) by a combo of a K40 laser (~$400-500) which is a "proper" C02 laser an Ender 3 ($180) and a Shapeoko 3 (~$1500) which is a "proper" CNC router
    I know my totals add up to slightly more than the Snapmaker, but you'd have 3 machines, 2 of which are far more powerful and a printer that's likely faster and you could do stuff on all 3 at the same time, I would think that'd be worth the extra~$200-300 from my example.

  • @francoisleclerc6299
    @francoisleclerc6299 2 года назад

    great job! I'm curious as to what you would recommend in terms of a large volume 3d printer and CNC machine that would get better results than the snap maker within the same budget.

  • @fetB
    @fetB 3 года назад

    that surface seems really smooth. Dont know anything about 3d-p but i didnt think this was possible.

  • @fred-9929
    @fred-9929 3 года назад +3

    Great review, thanks!
    What linear guide type is used in the linear modules? rods? linear bearings? rollers?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  3 года назад +2

      Rollers inside of the extrusion.

    • @fred-9929
      @fred-9929 3 года назад

      @@CNCKitchen Thanks!

    • @user-wj7dw9co7y
      @user-wj7dw9co7y 3 года назад

      @@CNCKitchen how did they do the defense? if the metal strip covers the entire extrusion slot, how is the force transferred from ballscrew to the carriage?

  • @jettran4465
    @jettran4465 3 года назад +1

    Ah I need one!

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E 3 года назад +1

    Damn. I about had a cardiac event thinking after reading Metal 3D printer, presuming that meant someone figured out how to make a cheap desktop metal filament. Still, a well-done all-in-one printer still hasn't been pulled off very well.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 3 года назад

    thanks for sharing!

  • @yuripolak
    @yuripolak 3 года назад

    Hi Stefan! had an idea last night and I think it would be interesting for you to test it: compare the strength between PLA 100% infill hooks vs hollow PLA hooks filled with epoxi resin (maybe it won´t make too much difference, but if the results are the same, printing a hollow part and filling with epoxi could be much cheaper/faster than printing it with 100% infill)

  • @navidulakshan9794
    @navidulakshan9794 3 года назад +1

    Great scott also review this

  • @KiR_3d
    @KiR_3d 3 года назад +1

    Stefan, thanks for the honest review!
    Does it has some "anti-fire protection system"? You can't leave a working laser (with a wood) if you don't have this, right?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  3 года назад +1

      No, it doesn't have anything in that regard. You shouldn't leave it running unattended.

  • @susanscovill6817
    @susanscovill6817 3 года назад

    Can’t wait to use my 350!

  • @geekoz
    @geekoz 3 года назад +1

    I have the A250 with the enclosure. I like it and use it regularly but I could not recommend it to others. It cost more than $2000 Australian, by the time you pay shipping and taxes. But you do not get a $2000 machine. It is far to noisy and the laser module is next to useless. The CNC does work well. As a 3D printer my Prusa Mini is far better. One big bonus is Snapmaker support is excellent. After about 3 months the laser module failed. I contacted support and they tried there best to short out my problem but when it became clear that the module was at fault they quickly sent a replacement at no cost to me. My hope is a upgrade to the laser that does not cost the earth.

    • @BrodieFairhall
      @BrodieFairhall 3 года назад +1

      There is plans for a more powerful laser :)

  • @FerTechCH
    @FerTechCH 3 года назад +1

    The loud noise is already a no go for me. Such a pity they thought it was not important to make it silent. Thanks for another great review Stefan!

    • @noway8233
      @noway8233 3 года назад

      Well , its dificult to make silent a CNC machine..

    • @MrBlackmidi1234567890987654321
      @MrBlackmidi1234567890987654321 5 месяцев назад

      but 3d printers are considered as CNC machines and they have gotten alot quieter over the years@@noway8233

  • @GregPeden
    @GregPeden 3 года назад

    FYI most recent firmware update only requires Wifi confirmation upon first use. Also, once the transfer is complete it doesn't need to maintain the wifi connection, in fact it disconnects by itself while it's printing.

  • @SergeiPetrov
    @SergeiPetrov 3 года назад +1

    Did you measure the stiffness of this machine? How far does the ER11 spindle bend with a force of 10 kg?

  • @jkuebbing12358
    @jkuebbing12358 3 года назад +2

    I love mine even after a 18 month wait to get

    • @jkuebbing12358
      @jkuebbing12358 3 года назад

      I have mine in a large cabinet this really helped with noise the bed heated up quicker thought still not quickly, keeps dust contained and I can be Shure no one blinds them selves.

  • @KaelumYodi
    @KaelumYodi 3 года назад +1

    The very noisy steppers got me too, but it’s not that bad with the enclosure. They couldn’t use silent stepper drivers, as they don’t work with 48v systems, which this is. They went with a 48v system, as it was the only way to get the CNC Mill to be useful. So, it’s either noisy steppers, or a fairly useless CNC Mill. They are working on some new linear rails, so we’ll see what they come up with. BTW, the A350 heated bed will go up to 100 degrees, but it will take close to 30 minutes to reach that temperature.

  • @Danny.Meatball
    @Danny.Meatball 3 года назад +10

    For better or worse, thank you Snapmaker for not being proprietary.

    • @DormantIdeasNIQ
      @DormantIdeasNIQ 3 года назад

      yeah... jump on cloud based Fusion 360, and let all your design be ripped off by the rest of the world~!

  • @labomat
    @labomat 3 года назад +1

    I once owned a similar product from a different vendor. It kind of worked for all disciplines but wasn't really good at one of them. The custom software had a lot of bugs and lacked development. I ended up selling it and bought an used Ultimaker and never looked back.

  • @islakkie
    @islakkie 3 года назад

    Realy want to build similar as my next diy project

  • @pauserratgutierrez
    @pauserratgutierrez 3 года назад +5

    Amazing review! I own a Snapmaker 2.0 a250 and it's an amazing machine! I'm looking for a prusaslicer profile for it. Can you share your's with us please? Thanks!😊

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  3 года назад +4

      Yes I can! I'll put it under my website article in a bit.

    • @pauserratgutierrez
      @pauserratgutierrez 3 года назад

      @@CNCKitchen Thanks😝

  • @digitalinversion9500
    @digitalinversion9500 3 года назад

    I builted a cnc around 2014 and I added a 3d printing hot end. You should have seen how the table it was shaking when a 45 kilo head was moving around 50mm/s. nearly broke. maybe not good as prinder but defenetly more than good enhoug for what I designed to do.

  • @Argysh
    @Argysh 3 года назад

    I got mine just a couple of weeks ago and was hoping you'd review it too!
    Thanks for not declining!
    So far I'm very happy with it, but I haven't tried everything yet.

  • @PortalFPV
    @PortalFPV 3 года назад

    This is neat, but I already have a great 3d printer. I need a decent dedicated CNC router.
    What would be something you'd recommend for cutting carbon fiber plates up to 5mm thick?