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@@E_tiBEAMERBOY the f90 platform is pretty reliablenfrom what ive heard, so far. Lets see 2022 when 2018 modelsnare coming out with 60k+ hard driven miles tonsee whats going on. Apparently so far I heard leaking turbos, leaking gaskets, blown gaskets, overheating engines etc
But the speed limiter is still inside the f90, who knows about its pure limit when it still can change the gear at around 300 km/h. That beast is caged so i guess... who knows
@@marufadi They've taken off the limiter. This comes down to how the engine is engineered and how it works. the v10 was built for high-revving N/A high top speed. The 4.4L V8 not so much, its more of a torque bear than a high end top speed car, that's not to say it cant reach it, but stock per stock F90 M5 limiter off , wont do past 200mph, the e60 m5, will. What's crazy is if you wanna keep and invest in an e60 m5, you can actually make it reliable. - Different pistons/connecting rods/crankshaft & rod bearings and for the vanos, you just need to keep the solenoid o-rings serviced and change the high pressure line. This basicaly makes the V10 bulletproof. That's what I like about the S85 v10 platform. It is simply so tunable, you can wring out of it 1850 hp with a twin turbo set-up.
@@aboom24 heheh somewhat you are right E60 was a big thing back in the day even now worth it's place Sad BMW rushed the E60 other than that V10 it's probably best M5 ever truly M spirit
My personal list: 1. F10 M5 manual, 600hp with a manual gearbox you just won’t find that in any other luxury limousine today, simply one of a kind and great driving experience 2. F90 M5, currently the fastest sedan on Earth what is there else to speak, it also offers great driving experience and looks better than the F10 with a better interior 3. E60 M5, hands down the best engine, the sound, the revs, a one of a kind beauty 4. E39 M5, the cleanest driving experience, the look, the interior, you just gotta love BMWs from that era
ツLatvian32 There is a difference between a 4 door coupe and a sedan. The car is literally even stated to be a coupe and not a sedan. But don’t worry *MERCEDES FANBOY*, the M8 Competition Pack is on its way. 😉 The Dodge Demon is also a coupe, with two doors.
Не удивлен, что на v10 стрелку положили, свыше 330 км/л летел этот истребитель, мда вот это инженеры, механики и все кто создавали и продолжают создавать их, молодцы! Спасибо вам!
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I owned an e63 m6 and I really bought it for the engine alone. When it was going right it was wonderful as the torque delivery from the v10 was very progressive as the revs would climb and gearing was great too to extract so much performance at the upper end. The turbo cars bring in the torque too quickly making them less precise under heavy throttle lacking the delicassey that the v10 possessed. The e60 / e63 was a great setup (I only sold it as the running costs ended up too high in proportion to how much I got to drive it...it defo a meet your heroes car that wont disappoint)
@@torpedo650 not really. My transmission is smg. The smg hydraulic system gives me issue after I changed out the smg fluid. As result, the new fluid even if it was the correct fluid killed one of the o-ring in the actuator block and had to have the transmission removed as that was the only way. I changed it out myself on a jack stand. The car is still on the original rod bearing. I barely rev the engine to 8,000 rpm. In fact, every cold start I always make sure the rpm is under 2,500 until operating temperature has been reached. Smg is reliable to me and the engine is really reliable. The most extensive works i done to the car was removing the transmission to get to the actuator block that has solenoid with o rings and since the transmission was out I decided to changed out all the o- rings from lower Block to top block. And clean out the pump motor and replaced the pump motor with a new brushing. All of this only cost me $150 and hours of my time. At the shop, you will likely shell maybe 1,500 to 3,000.
120-270kph E60 M5 ~21.06 Sec F10 M5 ~18.49 Sec F90 M5 ~ 16.48 Sec Kph range chosen for equality and consistency purposes (wide open throttle within all 3 clips throughout this range). Those are the facts, but experientially: the E60 wins hearts.
@@promo2099 its has really quick pick up the supercharger spools instantly..I couldnt tell you how fast from 0-60 cause i really just cruise it..shes definitely fun to drive..
I love them all... from old to new! These cars have so much soul and I wouldn’t trade my f10 for anything right now! Until I can find a reasonable deal on the f90 of course 😄 but truly nothing will ever beat that V10 scream 💦💦💦
Whichever sounds better, can we just appreciate that, no matter the model, this is a 300+ km/h car that you can take your kids to school in comfortably and drive to work everyday. Personally, I think the V8 BMW's (especially the F90) sound perhaps more satisfying than the V10; however, the V10 is still an amazing engine.
Сразу видно ты фанат E60 M5. V10 на компрессоре... Атмо это c63 amg 6.2 в 204 кузове, вот это атмо. 467 сил в стоке, прошивкой и убиранием катализаторов 570 сил.
@@400fps2 что ты несёшь? 🤦🏻♂️ V10 в М5 это атмосферный мотор. Гугли. У БМВ никогда не было компрессоров в отличии от мерса. Когда у БМВ были атмосферные v10 и V8 Мерседесы были уже на компрессорах лалка
M5 E60 still remain the best mechanical piece of Art. Most tuners consider M5 E60 the perfect base to develop monster projects. Don't Forget that M5 E60 Hurricane RR ( v10 tuned by gpower) hold the record of fastest sedan in the World.
The Gpower car is a stunt, there are lots of modified sedans with more power than that, they just don't have the modified gearing to hit that top speed (because who cares anywhere outside the Autobahn anyway, even on race tracks you're never gonna go that fast). In fact Gpower themselves have an even faster M5s since, with the new V8. The S85 is not a great platform for "monster projects" at all. It's a highly tuned naturally aspirated engine with makes it poorly suited for forced induction, and it's massive for the chassis it's in which makes it very difficult to package turbochargers. Getting a lot of power out of those engines is actually stupidly expensive, it's easier to get big power out of a B58 or even an old N54, some upgraded connecting rods, turbo upgrade and port injection and you're making 800hp+. That's why back in the day of this car the fastest BMWs on the street weren't M3s or M5s, it was the modified 335is.
No point saying F10 is better than E60 or E60 is better than F90 etc etc.... They all offer different ways to go insanely fast..... If you want 200mph N/A engine then go E60.... If you want turbocharged RWD brute force then go with F10. If you want AWD brute force then go with F90.... doesnt matter which you pick, you will be king of the autobahn.
But in the F90 you can enable RWD only and so there is no more big difference to the f10, only thing I think the f10 has still a manual option which makes it amazing
E60 M5 wins hands down. Sounds better than the other two. Look more special than the other two. That v10, b.m.w,s best motor in a road car, ever. The other two are quicker, but the e60 is the more special of the three. Great video
@@mattbudesa3038 speed limiter is still inside the f90, the factory makes it to hit the limit at 305 km/h with the speed limiter inside. Nobody knows what it's truly capable of without that speed limiter
@@TheSuperCarsChannel does f90 have a soft limiter or something? Even BMW admit that the e60/61 generation has a faster top speed than the following 2 iterations.
Don't know why, but the E60 is one of my favourite cars ever made by BMW, let alone the V10 version which sounds INSANE. Of course the newer ones are great too, but I just love that one.
I own a E63 M6 and the amount of fear mongering that goes on about the rod bearings is hilarious. It keeps the prices so low that I’m thinking about buying another to drive so I can keep the miles off of my current manual. Everyone just needs to remember that car forums breed fear and paranoia. The S85 is VERY cheap to maintain compared to other engines on its level. It’s damn near free to own compared to a Ferrari but it gives a similar sensation. The only other German car that can do that is the Carrera GT.
I enjoyed the E60 for the driving experience, very nimble car for its size... but the issues I had with it were extreme! As wonderful as that V10 is, it's genuine race engine and has to be maintained as such. I have an F10 now and even with the E60 being more fun to drive, the F10 is faster and alot less temperamental. I still miss my E60 though...
Homage to my Emmy The e60 M5 was designed as a super sports car in a sedan (limousine) body that was adapted for this purpose (own BMW part number). During this time, M-GmbH brought all of its knowledge from Formula 1 into the V10 engine and decades of experience from touring car sport into chassis and vehicle technology of the e60 M5. The result was the best car that BMW has ever developed - the crown of automotive engineering - made in Germany. I drove the e60 550i with the M package beforehand, a really great car (unfortunately it ended up as total aquaplaning damage in a cloudburst). Then followed a BMW F10 550i - here I lacked the directness, this immediacy of the feedback from road, engine, transmission, brake because of the adaptive setting options - which are actually only electronic interpretations of "comfort", "normal" and "sport" - no more direct feedback. The motor is also a V8 - but turbo-charged ... with all the turbo characteristics - little pause after kick-down and uniform power delivery like a turbine - this spontaneous biting (at higher rpm) of a naturally aspirated engine is missing. To understand me correctly - the F10 is a really good car - but I'm not a typical customer. I gave this car away after 6 months ... because I found her ... my dream „Emmy ❤️“. (Admittedly - I was looking again for an e60 550i with an M package ... not availiable). I couldn't believe my eyes when I found her, for the same budget ... e60 M5 with all options, including the Drivers Package ... except TV (honestly ... who needs TV in this car?). Guys, what can I say, I bought her directly - without a test drive, directly from a BMW sales office. That was 8 years and 145,000 km ago. Emmy definitely stays with me for the rest of my active driving life - from April to October she is my daily driver - the rest of the time she hibernates in a heated garage - Emmy never saw frost or salt. She gets her maintenance intervals by time, not by kilometers. And now to the costs that are deplored by many: as mentioned at the beginning - the e60 M5 is a super sports car -> 5 liter V10, 8,250 rpm, 507 hp, 490 Nm torque, up to 305 km / h, automated, sequential transmission with real clutch - in the same performance category, no owner of Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche complains about maintenance costs. Most important thing to save costs: - drive the e60 M5 with heart and mind: warming up (oil-temp. min 80 C(elsius), driving cold (max. 80 C), not only alternating between burnout and full braking - think about this technical masterpiece and care for it properly in accordance with the service instructions in the service booklet and the on-board computer - do not believe that you are smarter than experienced BMW motorsport Engineers -> so don’t srew on cheap tuning scrap because of „louder, lower, wider, faster“ - following up the above mentioned items - an e60 M5 can be fun for a long time with reasonable costs. I now use the second set of summer tires (Continental - made in Germany) and it still has a tread depth of over 50%, still the first clutch (0x Launch Control - what for?), the first shock absorbers, the second brake discs (preventive). As a preventive measure, the crank bearing shells of the connecting rods and the clutch will be replaced this year. Conclusion: ... and Emmy and me make the 305 km/h and above ... where conditions allow it - be sure! We prefer to drive >>controllable that's what Emmy is built for and that's why I bought her - e60 M5... the Ultimate Driving Machine.
@@stefanfreestylez Gotta remember, the E60 is faster, takes longer to get there, because the torque numbers are considerably lower on the V10 compared to the V8's
@@samuelhumphreys7712 on which engine? The V10 is known to eat its bearings regardless. 5k oil changes help. The V8 TT can blow up for fun. I prefer the v10 in my M5 at the moment
Its a known issue.. Does not matter if its warm or not. There are even upgraded after market bearings for sale. Same with e9x m3 engine.. Service to replace bearings are 90 000 km. Merc e63 or c63 is my everyday choise if i would buy this kind of car.
Every old cars needs a remaster. The E60 M5 with a low pressure twin turbo 5.0l V10 that chunks out 600hp mated to the new 8dct, improved suspension, gauge lighting from the F10 M5, features and tech from the F10 M5, etc. Who says old cars don't need to be remastered? It's like keeping a 1991 McLaren F1 but leaving it to rust and dust.
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Always a difficult question with these cars. Sound and top speed belong to the E60. Day to day getting off the line from a stoplight and passing on the freeway belongs to the newer cars. I think each might be better than the others in different ways. Just depends on what you need. I will never have room where I live for an E60's top speed (even though I love the sound) but I have enough for the acceleration of the F10 and F90. When I lived in Germany the E60 would have been great. Like I said, better depends on what you need.
@@TheSuperCarsChannel yea but at 300+ the e60 pulls harder than both, and I'm sure it's not more aero dynamic. Anyway, all great cars, but 6MT E60 FTW.
@@francesco2809 I think f10 has more aggressive speed limiter, because it pulls very hard till 300kmh even with 2 gears left and then it stops. As for the e60 m5 it has big top end power , but still the speedometer error is very big like 10-15kmh
There’s no doubt that the F90 is the best M5 ever made in every measurable way, but it lacks the character and excitement you got from the E60, largely because of the noise you got from the V10.
Nothing beats the sound, the power and beauty of a V10.
Yeah, it's called a V12. Better than a V10 in every way.
@@revokdaryl1 Nope. Nothing beats the sound of a NATURAL ASPIRATED V8; with a well made large exhaust and well tuned.
E60 sound of the v10 engine😍
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Sadly you are hearing sound injected into the audio system I believe..
degrootd2 for the V8's yes. That‘s the great thing about the V10 - no fake sound, just real music 😜
Yes e60 vin
@@striezlmuc Exact. The sound of that V10 didn't go to the sound system back in the days!
E60 M5 is the best experience M car. F90 M5 is the newest fastest accelerating M5, but for top speed E60 remains king of the roads.
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Bet u long run e60 V10 will be less to run than these newer even bigger money pit m5’s
@@E_tiBEAMERBOY the f90 platform is pretty reliablenfrom what ive heard, so far. Lets see 2022 when 2018 modelsnare coming out with 60k+ hard driven miles tonsee whats going on. Apparently so far I heard leaking turbos, leaking gaskets, blown gaskets, overheating engines etc
But the speed limiter is still inside the f90, who knows about its pure limit when it still can change the gear at around 300 km/h. That beast is caged so i guess... who knows
@@marufadi They've taken off the limiter. This comes down to how the engine is engineered and how it works. the v10 was built for high-revving N/A high top speed. The 4.4L V8 not so much, its more of a torque bear than a high end top speed car, that's not to say it cant reach it, but stock per stock F90 M5 limiter off , wont do past 200mph, the e60 m5, will. What's crazy is if you wanna keep and invest in an e60 m5, you can actually make it reliable. - Different pistons/connecting rods/crankshaft & rod bearings and for the vanos, you just need to keep the solenoid o-rings serviced and change the high pressure line. This basicaly makes the V10 bulletproof. That's what I like about the S85 v10 platform. It is simply so tunable, you can wring out of it 1850 hp with a twin turbo set-up.
E60 The BEST!!!
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Yeah Better than V8s...
*e61
@@gytisstepo3782 You're an idiot, you probably didn’t even sit in this car, not like driving, shut your mouth. You trash🖕🖕🖕
@@aboom24 heheh somewhat you are right E60 was a big thing back in the day even now worth it's place Sad BMW rushed the E60 other than that V10 it's probably best M5 ever truly M spirit
I love how the German carmakers be like: I made that odometer 330 so it WILL go 330.
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Also, you are paying for all those numbers on that odometer so you may as well use it too :)
Haha, my Caddy odometer: 260, real speed: 160
Speedometer
@@Fisco1983 oof
The sound of V10 e60 M5 is an absolutely masterpiece!
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Also M3 e92 4 liter
E60 killing it even after 12 years ! 🔥
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15 years actually
15 years
It's not reliable tbh
@@RioPutra_ Ur the old toyota guy xdxdxdxdxd
I prefer E60 M5.
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Daca nu aveau atatea probleme atunci E60 m5 era cel mai bun m
the E60 doesnt have only the best engine, it looks so fucking sexy aswell... only 25k left and i can buy it lul
@@Vx.chris_1926 In EU you can buy one for 15k, but then you pay much more for maintenance
@@specialopsgaming6243 nah In Norway it's 50k for the car and insurance and etc. Is separate
the e60 m5 my favorite bmw car the design, sound, engine sound everything perfect its a true super sedan
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V10 is the best
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No v8 is the best
@@seroabi4459 V10 is the best engine
why not V12's ? :P
@@TheSuperCarsChannel not,love the M5 E60 V10
You can see the Petrol Gauge move while accelerating on the F90.
In my opionion, E60 is the true dream! Nothing like a V10 selfbreathing Engine :)
Nyet. That V10 baby was something else altogether. 330km/h without breaking a sweat. And no turbo to boot. Epic engineering.
that sound from E60 n/a engine is just a masterpiece
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The best is E60. Legendary!
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3:43 if I pay for the whole speedometer, I’m gonna use the whole speedometer
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My personal list:
1. F10 M5 manual, 600hp with a manual gearbox you just won’t find that in any other luxury limousine today, simply one of a kind and great driving experience
2. F90 M5, currently the fastest sedan on Earth what is there else to speak, it also offers great driving experience and looks better than the F10 with a better interior
3. E60 M5, hands down the best engine, the sound, the revs, a one of a kind beauty
4. E39 M5, the cleanest driving experience, the look, the interior, you just gotta love BMWs from that era
I own 3 and 4 ..... never trade them for anything.
Fastest sedan on earth is gt63s, don't talk shit bmw fanboy
@@veljkomitic1595 its actually the hellcat charger but um, thats rwd
ツLatvian32 There is a difference between a 4 door coupe and a sedan. The car is literally even stated to be a coupe and not a sedan. But don’t worry *MERCEDES FANBOY*, the M8 Competition Pack is on its way. 😉 The Dodge Demon is also a coupe, with two doors.
@@EpsilonBiatch yup i know.
Не удивлен, что на v10 стрелку положили, свыше 330 км/л летел этот истребитель, мда вот это инженеры, механики и все кто создавали и продолжают создавать их, молодцы! Спасибо вам!
Holy shit the engine sound of the M5 E60 V10 sends shivers down my spine after 7000 rpm
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JC there is clearly something wrong with you. How can any petrolhead say m5 gives absolutely 0 emotion. regardless of the model.
@@Cz4r0xFr33styl3
Engines are becoming too linear and sanitzed, it kills pleasure.
But maybe a dieselhead can't understand such things.
JC your argument is invalid since I drive high power diesels throughout my whole life, yet every m5 gives me thrills. over and out
@@Cz4r0xFr33styl3 Nothing even compares to the feeling of the V10, its emotional...
omg sound v10 i love e60 and e39 old bmw is better
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Agree with the E60. But likes the E34 3.6 or 3.8 I6 over the 5L V8 E39
@@allanpedersen9852 Unfortunately I don't have any friend that own an E34 or E39 M5 ... :(
M530d e39 sounds even better 😀😀😀
@@TheSuperCarsChannel I have both-ish The E64 M6, but same engine! :)
M5 e60 v10 best car ever made...
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Its most unreliable BMW M5 i ever haved but most beautiful.
I would have liked to drive an E39 M5 but I don't know anybody with such car... :(
I agree best car ever made
until rod bearings fail
The old hero with the v10 😍
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Old but gold!🔥🔥🔥
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I owned an e63 m6 and I really bought it for the engine alone. When it was going right it was wonderful as the torque delivery from the v10 was very progressive as the revs would climb and gearing was great too to extract so much performance at the upper end. The turbo cars bring in the torque too quickly making them less precise under heavy throttle lacking the delicassey that the v10 possessed. The e60 / e63 was a great setup (I only sold it as the running costs ended up too high in proportion to how much I got to drive it...it defo a meet your heroes car that wont disappoint)
Interesting your car is a bit lsss reliable than mine. My e60 M5 is very reliable than the guy who have a Honda Accord across the street
@@The_North0 even now?
@@torpedo650 yes, even now. My M5 has 154,000 miles and still going strong
@@The_North0 wth. did your rod bearings or trans ever go away? is it manual? do you drive it rough or slow?
@@torpedo650 not really. My transmission is smg. The smg hydraulic system gives me issue after I changed out the smg fluid. As result, the new fluid even if it was the correct fluid killed one of the o-ring in the actuator block and had to have the transmission removed as that was the only way. I changed it out myself on a jack stand. The car is still on the original rod bearing. I barely rev the engine to 8,000 rpm. In fact, every cold start I always make sure the rpm is under 2,500 until operating temperature has been reached. Smg is reliable to me and the engine is really reliable. The most extensive works i done to the car was removing the transmission to get to the actuator block that has solenoid with o rings and since the transmission was out I decided to changed out all the o- rings from lower Block to top block. And clean out the pump motor and replaced the pump motor with a new brushing. All of this only cost me $150 and hours of my time. At the shop, you will likely shell maybe 1,500 to 3,000.
I prefer the V10 because it has real sound, something out of the ordinary even if it was slower
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120-270kph
E60 M5 ~21.06 Sec
F10 M5 ~18.49 Sec
F90 M5 ~ 16.48 Sec
Kph range chosen for equality and consistency purposes (wide open throttle within all 3 clips throughout this range).
Those are the facts, but experientially: the E60 wins hearts.
Amazing how the E60-F10 gap is smaller than F10-F90
I love driving my M6. The V10 noise is like no other...the newer Ms dont compare..
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The new m8 would be very beast, but the m6 v10 is definitely a good choice
@@promo2099 yeah I agree I threw in an ESS supercharger on mine.."and ohhh does she scream"..
Rey Ramirez how fast does your M6 accelerate?
@@promo2099 its has really quick pick up the supercharger spools instantly..I couldnt tell you how fast from 0-60 cause i really just cruise it..shes definitely fun to drive..
I love them all... from old to new! These cars have so much soul and I wouldn’t trade my f10 for anything right now! Until I can find a reasonable deal on the f90 of course 😄 but truly nothing will ever beat that V10 scream 💦💦💦
Whichever sounds better, can we just appreciate that, no matter the model, this is a 300+ km/h car that you can take your kids to school in comfortably and drive to work everyday. Personally, I think the V8 BMW's (especially the F90) sound perhaps more satisfying than the V10; however, the V10 is still an amazing engine.
E60 All Day ❤️
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you guys forget that the e60 speedometer reads about 9% high. higher than most cars. so when it displays 330 it’s really going about 300
Русские есть?) Е60 - честный атмо v10. Лучшая М5
Ограничитель снят со старой м5 вот и ушла она за 300, у этих они стоят на 310 вроде
@@alexgame4297 Дело не в огране , а в V10
Как быстро стрелка солярки в лево ползет....
Сразу видно ты фанат E60 M5. V10 на компрессоре... Атмо это c63 amg 6.2 в 204 кузове, вот это атмо. 467 сил в стоке, прошивкой и убиранием катализаторов 570 сил.
@@400fps2 что ты несёшь? 🤦🏻♂️ V10 в М5 это атмосферный мотор. Гугли. У БМВ никогда не было компрессоров в отличии от мерса. Когда у БМВ были атмосферные v10 и V8 Мерседесы были уже на компрессорах лалка
M5 E60 still remain the best mechanical piece of Art.
Most tuners consider M5 E60 the perfect base to develop monster projects.
Don't Forget that M5 E60 Hurricane RR ( v10 tuned by gpower) hold the record of fastest sedan in the World.
The Gpower car is a stunt, there are lots of modified sedans with more power than that, they just don't have the modified gearing to hit that top speed (because who cares anywhere outside the Autobahn anyway, even on race tracks you're never gonna go that fast). In fact Gpower themselves have an even faster M5s since, with the new V8.
The S85 is not a great platform for "monster projects" at all. It's a highly tuned naturally aspirated engine with makes it poorly suited for forced induction, and it's massive for the chassis it's in which makes it very difficult to package turbochargers. Getting a lot of power out of those engines is actually stupidly expensive, it's easier to get big power out of a B58 or even an old N54, some upgraded connecting rods, turbo upgrade and port injection and you're making 800hp+. That's why back in the day of this car the fastest BMWs on the street weren't M3s or M5s, it was the modified 335is.
E60 hands down! Nothing beats the V10!
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Driving an E60 M5 is pure ecstasy. One of the most visceral driving experiences one can have in a sedan.
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Me: still satisfied with my old E34 M50
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What a beast is the E60 M5
Been my faforite since
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No point saying F10 is better than E60 or E60 is better than F90 etc etc.... They all offer different ways to go insanely fast..... If you want 200mph N/A engine then go E60.... If you want turbocharged RWD brute force then go with F10. If you want AWD brute force then go with F90.... doesnt matter which you pick, you will be king of the autobahn.
But in the F90 you can enable RWD only and so there is no more big difference to the f10, only thing I think the f10 has still a manual option which makes it amazing
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E60 M5 wins hands down. Sounds better than the other two. Look more special than the other two. That v10, b.m.w,s best motor in a road car, ever. The other two are quicker, but the e60 is the more special of the three. Great video
If only the e60 was as reliable as good as it sounds... Really great car with a big personality that most newer BMWs lack of
@Peter Ian Staker damn that's impressive. Avg,milage per year?
How long can the new turbo engines last until major $ need to spend to get it back to work?
Unfortunately (or fortunately?), F90 is much more reliable, than E60. It's a fact.
It's much faster. Especially after stage 2.
E60 was my favorite, but imagine if those speed limiters were to be removed on the F90 what figures can it reach🙆♂️
I'm pretty sure the limiters are off on those 2. I don't think they'd be doing 300+ on a factory ecu. Lol.
@@mattbudesa3038 speed limiter is still inside the f90, the factory makes it to hit the limit at 305 km/h with the speed limiter inside. Nobody knows what it's truly capable of without that speed limiter
That's right. Only the E60 M5 has its speed limiter removed.
@@marufadi Gotcha. I stand corrected then.
@@TheSuperCarsChannel does f90 have a soft limiter or something? Even BMW admit that the e60/61 generation has a faster top speed than the following 2 iterations.
Gimme the old manual car ANY day. I don't race so I don't care about 0-60 times, I just want fun and nice engine sound!
I guess the e60 wasnt stock and we got a little fanboy over here
Its literally fucking stock
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Its totally stock , if it was modified it will be +300km/h still on 6th gear and would hit +330km/h on 7th gear , i have an e60 m5
Please you should take into consideration that recent models are equipped with limiter!!
Actually they have have (or had) speed limiter.
Don't know why, but the E60 is one of my favourite cars ever made by BMW, let alone the V10 version which sounds INSANE. Of course the newer ones are great too, but I just love that one.
The new ones are certainly quicker and more modern, but there’s something special in having an V10 in an super sedan like that
I own a E63 M6 and the amount of fear mongering that goes on about the rod bearings is hilarious. It keeps the prices so low that I’m thinking about buying another to drive so I can keep the miles off of my current manual.
Everyone just needs to remember that car forums breed fear and paranoia. The S85 is VERY cheap to maintain compared to other engines on its level. It’s damn near free to own compared to a Ferrari but it gives a similar sensation. The only other German car that can do that is the Carrera GT.
Hail to the King!! V10 muscle!!💪💪💪
switching from rwd to awd was a gamechanger
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I enjoyed the E60 for the driving experience, very nimble car for its size... but the issues I had with it were extreme! As wonderful as that V10 is, it's genuine race engine and has to be maintained as such. I have an F10 now and even with the E60 being more fun to drive, the F10 is faster and alot less temperamental. I still miss my E60 though...
I want to buy one in the future. Can you tell me how much money did you spend on that car ?
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Whats ur opinion on a newer m3 g80 xdrive? Super reliable engine + faster than all cars in the video
E60 top spped 339 kmh f10 315
Homage to my Emmy
The e60 M5 was designed as a super sports car in a sedan (limousine) body that was adapted for this purpose (own BMW part number).
During this time, M-GmbH brought all of its knowledge from Formula 1 into the V10 engine and decades of experience from touring car sport into chassis and vehicle technology of the e60 M5. The result was the best car that BMW has ever developed - the crown of automotive engineering - made in Germany.
I drove the e60 550i with the M package beforehand, a really great car (unfortunately it ended up as total aquaplaning damage in a cloudburst).
Then followed a BMW F10 550i - here I lacked the directness, this immediacy of the feedback from road, engine, transmission, brake because of the adaptive setting options - which are actually only electronic interpretations of "comfort", "normal" and "sport" - no more direct feedback. The motor is also a V8 - but turbo-charged ... with all the turbo characteristics - little pause after kick-down and uniform power delivery like a turbine - this spontaneous biting (at higher rpm) of a naturally aspirated engine is missing.
To understand me correctly - the F10 is a really good car - but I'm not a typical customer. I gave this car away after 6 months ...
because I found her ... my dream „Emmy ❤️“. (Admittedly - I was looking again for an e60 550i with an M package ... not availiable). I couldn't believe my eyes when I found her, for the same budget ... e60 M5 with all options, including the Drivers Package ... except TV (honestly ... who needs TV in this car?). Guys, what can I say, I bought her directly - without a test drive, directly from a BMW sales office. That was 8 years and 145,000 km ago.
Emmy definitely stays with me for the rest of my active driving life - from April to October she is my daily driver - the rest of the time she hibernates in a heated garage - Emmy never saw frost or salt. She gets her maintenance intervals by time, not by kilometers.
And now to the costs that are deplored by many: as mentioned at the beginning - the e60 M5 is a super sports car -> 5 liter V10, 8,250 rpm, 507 hp, 490 Nm torque, up to 305 km / h, automated, sequential transmission with real clutch - in the same performance category, no owner of Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche complains about maintenance costs.
Most important thing to save costs:
- drive the e60 M5 with heart and mind: warming up (oil-temp. min 80 C(elsius), driving cold (max. 80 C), not only alternating between burnout and full braking
- think about this technical masterpiece and care for it properly in accordance with the service instructions in the service booklet and the on-board computer
- do not believe that you are smarter than experienced BMW motorsport Engineers -> so don’t srew on cheap tuning scrap because of „louder, lower, wider, faster“
- following up the above mentioned items - an e60 M5 can be fun for a long time with reasonable costs.
I now use the second set of summer tires (Continental - made in Germany) and it still has a tread depth of over 50%, still the first clutch (0x Launch Control - what for?), the first shock absorbers, the second brake discs (preventive).
As a preventive measure, the crank bearing shells of the connecting rods and the clutch will be replaced this year.
Conclusion: ... and Emmy and me make the 305 km/h and above ... where conditions allow it - be sure!
We prefer to drive >>controllable that's what Emmy is built for and that's why I bought her - e60 M5... the Ultimate Driving Machine.
I have that V10 love it looks more aggressive which is real sport car
I like the old M6 too, what a beast, good looks and power
Внимание, только е60 положил стрелку, это опять доказывает что машины раньше делали лучше!
Ограничитель сняли вот и ушла
Это ещё не значит, что реально разогнался)))
А теперь поговорим про надёжность и тюнинг.
The V10 killed it but in terms of acceleration the F90 is a monster
тот момент когда атмосферный мотор тащит и звучит лучше турбированного!
Definitely the E60. V10 sounds incredible and keeps pulling. At 200mph and temperature needle is staying slap bang in the middle. Hardly even trying.
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E60 M5 V10 oldy but goody !!
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Does the E60 have less Air Resistance?
2 Words naturally aspirated ❤️
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with turbos every car can be fast, but this V10 engine is just unique!
E60 M5 is the best it has the highest speed and the best sound
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The naturally aspirated V10 is pure poetry! V8 is a very good engine but does not have the same charm.
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E60 is the best car ever.. 2006 and it does 207MPH..
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I have an E39 M5, E60 M5 and and F10 M5. The E60 is epic!
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E60 - best sound
F90 best performance
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Why does the F10 interior acceleration noise sound so odd, this video showed an exhaust clip but on other videos it just doesn't sound like a BMW V8.
E60 M5 King of BMW 💪💪💪
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Just the ability of an naturally aspirated engine to rev out like that is soo amazing it almost seems faster to reach 300 +,,, E60 rules
Its consierably slower but ya they dont build em like they use to thats for sure.
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@@stefanfreestylez Gotta remember, the E60 is faster, takes longer to get there, because the torque numbers are considerably lower on the V10 compared to the V8's
And now change the crank bearings on the E60 lol
Cheaper than having to rebuild the S63 when it goes pop.
Not a problem if you let the engine warm up...
@@samuelhumphreys7712 on which engine? The V10 is known to eat its bearings regardless. 5k oil changes help. The V8 TT can blow up for fun. I prefer the v10 in my M5 at the moment
Its a known issue.. Does not matter if its warm or not. There are even upgraded after market bearings for sale. Same with e9x m3 engine.. Service to replace bearings are 90 000 km. Merc e63 or c63 is my everyday choise if i would buy this kind of car.
@@maerven ah the boring choice. That's like choosing between a hot girl and nanny mcphee, and taking nanny mcphee 🤣
You pay for whole speedometer you USE whole speedometer 😉
Haha well said !
If the new is faster? Yes it is.
But I’ll ever love the E60
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Every old cars needs a remaster. The E60 M5 with a low pressure twin turbo 5.0l V10 that chunks out 600hp mated to the new 8dct, improved suspension, gauge lighting from the F10 M5, features and tech from the F10 M5, etc.
Who says old cars don't need to be remastered? It's like keeping a 1991 McLaren F1 but leaving it to rust and dust.
E60 best ❤️
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where did you get the 07 speedometer
is th 07 not really going 300 its just the dials you put on there?
That is why i own an E60 M5 🏎 i love everything about it NA era the best 🏎🔥
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Me too brother, I never wanna get rid of mine.
twin turbo v8s are beast
old is gold..i love my e60..
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E61 owner here, cheers!
E60 v10 💪💪 🔥🔥
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Aaah! German engineering at its best! Who can deny that all of these cars are absolutely awesome!
E60 BEST!!😍😍😍😍
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The shift speed of that ZF 8HP in the F30 is so quick, on par with the DCT. Amazing!
The Best is BMW e60.
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the m5 f10 seems limited? my 535d gets to 300+ aswell
Yes, F10 and F90 M5 still have speed limiter...
Old m5 330 new 315😂
Speed limiters
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Там ограничитель снят
Always a difficult question with these cars. Sound and top speed belong to the E60. Day to day getting off the line from a stoplight and passing on the freeway belongs to the newer cars. I think each might be better than the others in different ways. Just depends on what you need. I will never have room where I live for an E60's top speed (even though I love the sound) but I have enough for the acceleration of the F10 and F90. When I lived in Germany the E60 would have been great. Like I said, better depends on what you need.
You can see the fuel gauge go down in real-time on the E60 V10 lol
You can't see but the oil level is doing the same.
This is how old school kick asses!
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F10 is slower at the top end compared to E60 and F90....
I'm sure it's something to do with the ECU limiting acceleration. Because it pulls hard to 300, then it just hits a wall. It's not something "organic"
Weight and aero makes a huge difference at that speed..
@@TheSuperCarsChannel yea but at 300+ the e60 pulls harder than both, and I'm sure it's not more aero dynamic. Anyway, all great cars, but 6MT E60 FTW.
@@francesco2809 I think f10 has more aggressive speed limiter, because it pulls very hard till 300kmh even with 2 gears left and then it stops. As for the e60 m5 it has big top end power , but still the speedometer error is very big like 10-15kmh
is the bmw m5 e60 modified?
În video maybe F90. But for me BMW E60 M5 is the best car in the world!😍❤
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There’s no doubt that the F90 is the best M5 ever made in every measurable way, but it lacks the character and excitement you got from the E60, largely because of the noise you got from the V10.
E60😍😍 iam in love
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Could I get the name of the song at the end?
I Found an Answer - Twin Musicom (ruclips.net/video/TjxxFObj_8A/видео.html)
E60 a legjobb a hangja is a legjobb.!!!
always my love E60M5
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Everyone screaming 🗣E60, please don’t forget the it’s brother. The KING 👑 of coupes, E63!!! 😮
V8 sonidos atificiales
If I may ask, how come no 0-100 for the E60 M5?
2:31 Best Part of the Video!
OLD IS GOLD BRO🖤
F10 for me
Question, why F10 over F90 ? I'm curious.