LUMIX S5iiX: Is it Still Worth It After 5 Months?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024

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  • @themostbeautifulworldever
    @themostbeautifulworldever 11 месяцев назад +21

    The S5IIx is so good - it's the best value on the market by far. 6k open gate, Panasonic color science, great battery life... I bought two of them. Going to get another one soon for my C cam. You can't beat it. 3x cameras and 3 prime lens (24, 35 and 85mm 1.8) for less than 10k. That's value

    • @deivytrajan
      @deivytrajan 7 месяцев назад

      I can even find S5II + 50mm lens for just £1600. Incredible value. I bought S5iiX + 20-60mm + 50mm + 85mm for £2389 as my first camera. Really happy with the camera and going full frame is amazing.

  • @Bigcookfilms
    @Bigcookfilms 11 месяцев назад +13

    The S5 ii is still worth it. I gave up my A7siii and got a BMPCC6K Pro then I realized that I'm a mirrorless hybrid shooter and got the S5 ii. It's my favorite camera of all time.

    • @alucardhellsing1037
      @alucardhellsing1037 10 месяцев назад +3

      Blackmagic just recently joined the L Mount Alliance.

    • @Bigcookfilms
      @Bigcookfilms 10 месяцев назад

      @@alucardhellsing1037 I may get one now that I have a hybrid

    • @Kryzvlogs
      @Kryzvlogs 2 месяца назад

      Hows the experience going back on the s5ii after leaving your a7siii?

  • @marinrealestatephotography
    @marinrealestatephotography 11 месяцев назад +11

    Thank you for the long term review, Matthew. I am a bit pessimistic about Panasonic fixing the HDMI issues. I don't think Panasonic has fixed them in the original S5 (or S1-series of cameras) so I just don't think it is on their radar (hope I am wrong about that). If I can add one other personal gripe about Panasonic L Mount cameras - ok, the SYSTEM, not really the cameras - is that there are not nativle ultrawide angle lenses with LENS stabilization. Hence, the five-axis IBIS leads to some serious corner warping when shooting ultrawide (under, say, 28mm). Panasonic could possilbly lessen the corner warping if they allowed users to switch from five-axis IBIS to only three-axis IBIS, but that is something that doesn't seem likely. I know that Sean Robinson of Lumix has mentioned this to Panasonic corporate and there doesn't seem to be any response.

    • @der.kommentierende.komment5275
      @der.kommentierende.komment5275 9 месяцев назад

      I guess the only way right now is to turn off stabilization and use some external one like a gimbal for example

    • @VeganLinked
      @VeganLinked 8 месяцев назад

      Yikes corner warping under 28 mm? I haven't heard about this yet. I suppose that's not an issue with Sony FX3.

    • @marinrealestatephotography
      @marinrealestatephotography 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@VeganLinked I don't know either way about the fx3. I do know that early Sony ULTRA-WIDE lenses had Lens stabilization (at least, my 10-18 f/4 for aps-c has lens stabilization, thought that was the same for the zeiss-badged 16-35 f/4 too). In a perfect world, every lens would have dual is, where the lens will stabilize two or three axis, and the body would stabilize the rest.

  • @auxsom
    @auxsom 7 месяцев назад +2

    Phenomenal video. Specifically the parts about what you didn't like. This is the first I have heard about the lagging and having to force shut down. Thanks again for the video.

  • @elieh.studio
    @elieh.studio 9 месяцев назад +4

    How is you experience on "moiré" with the S5iiX? I have heard pretty bad comments around it and I am afraid to make the jump

    • @jackd4575
      @jackd4575 9 месяцев назад +2

      I have the original S5 - moiré should only be a problem in a limited number of circumstances. I've only experienced in once. I was shooting 50fps slow mo, and thought to myself, nah don't need to bother putting on an ND filter for this quick shot, and I cranked the shutter speed. That definitely revealed some nasty moire. So yeah, if you expose properly, stick to 180 degrees (as much as possible) you should be all good.

  • @garypranzo9334
    @garypranzo9334 11 месяцев назад +3

    I love This Camera and will stick with Lumix but to help people I will list some of the cons to this camera.
    - No Phase detect AF at full frame over 30fps no matter what resolution
    - No 4k 60 at all unless APSC
    - Wobbly jello effect when using IBIS full frame under 24mm
    Bottom line = get an APSC lens for 60fps and ultrawide IBIS and all will be good.

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting, for sure the bottom two make sense. But I never ran into autofocus issues at 4k 60fps\

    • @garypranzo9334
      @garypranzo9334 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@MatthewDangyou That is because it is only an issue in full frame and this Camera only does 4K 60fps in APSC mode. The AF issue is mainly for people shooting 1080p full frame 48 or 60fps

  • @JWS1968
    @JWS1968 3 месяца назад

    I have this camera. Auto-Focus is amazing when you learn how to use the different modes. I don't even think about low light now as this camera is amazing in low light with the dual native ISO. Put the 50mm f1.8 on this camera and forget about low light. Image quality and colours are great. Battery life is also stunning. But the one thing that really makes this camera great is it's price. I got mine with the kit lens and a spare battery for £1700 off Amazon. Please, someone tell me how that's not a no brainer.

  • @VERTMEDIA
    @VERTMEDIA 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for your video. Im on a phase to jump from A7IV to S5iiX but cant find information what bothers me. Maybe you can help me? Does it shoot photos in APSC mode so having 35mm I also have 52mm FL. Does it have Compressed RAW M/L/Full as Sony has? Does it record audio in SnQ mode (aka 60fps)?

  • @BackusCreativeImaging
    @BackusCreativeImaging 11 месяцев назад

    What's weird about the HDMI issue is I have the GH5 II which uses the same updated menu system in the S series (and new MFT cameras like GH6 and G9 II) and it sends all info over HDMI like framing marker so on set director monitor will get final framing guide of say 2.35 AR. I would love to see this fixed for the S5II S5IIX GH6 and G9II ... it works correctly in the GH5 II :)

  • @filipmichalsaffray441
    @filipmichalsaffray441 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great review,
    About crop I have 3 S5org for multicam purpose (bought them mega sales 800CHF+-850$ new )
    I put a short cut button to change the rexording size ob front near the lens mouth so I switch between FF and S35 super quick.
    In S5 org coupled with Ninja V,BM video assist .no problem with laging when switching fps.
    Just one observation recording BRAW with pana you don't havr backup...so kind of risky if you live events...I tend to record all in Prores and backup it with inside SD...but eith S5iix you could do double prores one on ssd like prores HQ and the second LT on Ninja V for live events.
    Btw on Org S5 I tend to shoot S35 or crop mode all the time...image is fantastic and just for special shots I use FF...always shotting prores 422 or HQ.
    Great channel
    Hope you will get the BMCC6K from blackmagic I would be interested with your opinion about it
    Yours fil from
    Biel CH

  • @samuelboatengyt
    @samuelboatengyt 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hey thanks a lot for the video, I love my S5IIX, and agree with you on almost everything. About the lag issue, I think it is only for the Ninja V users, at least I haven’t heard nothing like that from BM Video assist users, and I have not had any issue like that, except from the normal delay.

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад +2

      I am talking specifically for just normal basic monitors like cheaper ones from OSEE and feelworld

    • @wildsfilms
      @wildsfilms 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yep, i can confirm this. The lag issue only happens with my atamos monitors. No issues with my black magic video assist.

  • @MagnumoftheMountains
    @MagnumoftheMountains 11 месяцев назад +1

    Matthew, your content focused on Lumix is outstanding for creators like me. THANK YOU for what you do! Question. I know you mentioned to others and me that you didn't find the rolling shutter to be too problematic for your shooting. What about aliasing or worse, moire? The S5iiX doesn't have an optical low pass filter, so it's more subject to these problems. Has it been a noticeable issue for you, and if so, what have you done to mitigate that?

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hey thank for the comment! Yeah for Moire is an issue I do run into on very texture things, but when I normally film I just don’t run into the issues. I try to ask my talent to bring a few options to see the best option. But personally it depends on what you film, it isn’t a crazy issue for myself

    • @anujsharmapandit
      @anujsharmapandit 11 месяцев назад

      Is there a way to fix this anytime soon ?Is LUMIX looking in to it

    • @MagnumoftheMountains
      @MagnumoftheMountains 11 месяцев назад

      @@anujsharmapandit without an optical low pass filter, there's no way to fix that aliasing and moire. It's more a matter of how often it crops up, and if that's a make or break for using the camera.

    • @anujsharma-yv7yd
      @anujsharma-yv7yd 11 месяцев назад

      Ok is there anyway to put lowpass filter from third party in s52x and Does Sony a74 has optical low pass filter?

    • @MagnumoftheMountains
      @MagnumoftheMountains 11 месяцев назад

      @@anujsharma-yv7yd you'd have to google that on the Sony, and I've never heard of an optical low pass filter being installed in a camera by a third party, that would be unusual I would think, or not doable

  • @tuzuharurakutu
    @tuzuharurakutu 9 месяцев назад

    Too bad it doesn't have a cf xpress type B port for internal ProRes recording. Having an SSD and cable dangle around is not ideal and not the most secure way to record important footage. Xh2S got it beat in that regard. Will wait for the S1H mark II and hoping it'll have that port like so many high end video cameras.

  • @techtechuw597
    @techtechuw597 10 месяцев назад

    Why don't you shoot all 4k videos cropped? You really don't loose much in quality and I've seen several videos that actually recommend this to get rid of edge wobble issues and have less rolling shutter.

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  10 месяцев назад +2

      Truthfully, idk, I like having the wider angles be an option is my main reason. Plus why have full frame if you don't use full frame. I normally only shoot open gate 24/30fps when I am using the camera and 4K 48/60fps for any slowmo broll

  • @MondoCheapo
    @MondoCheapo 5 месяцев назад

    Helpful video! How do you feel the AF compares to the G9II?
    Just to check, does the S5II crop when shooting 48fps too? or anything over 30fps?
    Many thanks

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  5 месяцев назад

      Yes the S5ii crops on 48fps. I actually have a video on my channel comparing the G9ii to the S5iiX but they feel very similar

  • @Sachinvlog1
    @Sachinvlog1 11 месяцев назад

    Please also tell how you can record best sound for video

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад

      I gotchu! I actually made an entire video about getting the best sound for Lumix cameras (since they are all the same menu systems basically) ruclips.net/video/Xb4UdBtG2A8/видео.html it is a little outdated but the concepts are still there. I do recommend though externally recording your audio whenever possible. I use a Zoom F3 and a really nice high end shotgun microphone for these videos

  • @jeremy_woods
    @jeremy_woods 8 месяцев назад

    Really can’t wait for the S1H2. The going theme with these cameras from what ive seen kind of just boils down to the most powerful processor. You won’t get lag with a kickass processor if they put it in the S1H2. (Which, they don’t have a cinema camera to protect so….). Very hopeful for a realistic 14 stops, 6k, open gate, phase detect af…and…. INTERNAL ND!!! Ftw.

  • @solarion33
    @solarion33 6 месяцев назад

    did Lumix fix the lag you mentioned when switching framerates ?
    its something I noticed on more then a few RUclips demo's and it wasn't pretty.

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  6 месяцев назад

      Not gonna lie kinda forgot about the issue so hope that answered your question😂

  • @MIXBYMALACHI
    @MIXBYMALACHI 11 месяцев назад

    i'm just hoping they make using the s5iix as a webcam more simple, Me being a content creator i love to go live with my hd capture card it just makes it so much more easier in obs. Now i have no idea on how to get my s5iix video screen on obs as i did with my cannon R5 but i love the s5iix no overheating just much more fun to use that why i said goodbye to the the r5

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад +1

      You can use a HDMi Capture Card to USB C with this camera, but I know there is a way to stream with this camera but I don't mess with streaming or webcam features personally. They are weird work around to get it to work on OBS though with there own apps

  • @ScreaminpirateEDC
    @ScreaminpirateEDC 7 месяцев назад

    How is the object AF? I shoot mostly pocket knives and need good AF.

  • @richnationfilms
    @richnationfilms 11 месяцев назад

    i don't think the HDMI full info display to both internal and external monitor will ever get fixed. I had the sony a7iv and it was the same way. I think most cameras in this price rage are the same with HDMI

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад

      Well two thoughts on that. One pledge Lumix cameras didn’t have the issue, and two lumix updates their cameras frequently unlike Sony too

  • @unpaid_review
    @unpaid_review 5 месяцев назад

    Didn't know that GH6 has CFE. SD cards suck in that case, while CFE is cheaper AND faster.

  • @coin777
    @coin777 6 месяцев назад

    Was the bugs fixed after 4 months?

  • @schwitzberger7325
    @schwitzberger7325 10 месяцев назад

    Hi @matthew Dangyou. Thx for your video. As a s5ii user I would like to know your opinion about ibis settings. I am still not sure when to use e-stabi on or not. Maybe you can tell me how you are using this setting...

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  10 месяцев назад +2

      Honestly, E Stabilization is something I pretty rarely use. Only in times when I need a shot to look like a gimbal or I am extremely zoomed in. I actually have the front button customized to be the boost IS lock stabilization. This allows me mid show to make my camera look like it is on a tripod with ease.

    • @schwitzberger7325
      @schwitzberger7325 10 месяцев назад

      @@MatthewDangyou thx a lot!

    • @VeganLinked
      @VeganLinked 8 месяцев назад

      Is there a significant crop when you switch to this e-stabilization?

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  8 месяцев назад +1

      Not really...but if you are shooting in 60fps you have a 1.5x crop plus electronic stabilization is just another crop that is added. So like I mentioned before it is only something I use when I feel the need for extra stabilization@@VeganLinked

  • @danprocaccio
    @danprocaccio 9 месяцев назад

    One thing Panasonic desperately needs is pancake lenses for the l mount. It's not fun to travel and walk around with these bigger primes. If they can get two nice little 40mmm and 28mm pancakes I'd be pumped.

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah that would be cool! Their current primes are pretty small when you compare to other fullframe lenses though.

    • @danprocaccio
      @danprocaccio 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@MatthewDangyou ya but other manufacturers are starting to offer some really nice small, decently priced primes that are wayyyy smaller than what's offered for the L mount. the smallest we have is some stuff from sigma, but even those are big. id love to not feel so obvious walking around with my s5ii. If Panasonic can recreate their 14mm (28) and 20mm (40) m43 pancakes (obviously I know these are diff mounts and sensors) for full frame, that'd be the ticket!

  • @CalebHoover
    @CalebHoover 11 месяцев назад

    still worth it i think! great vid and 🔥points

  • @VeganLinked
    @VeganLinked 8 месяцев назад

    What about moire?

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  8 месяцев назад +1

      Personally I only noticed it on areas where most other cameras even like the Sony A7SIII had it on tiny detail shirts, and bags. But in interview scenarios I will tell the talent to have at least two other shirt option just to be safe

    • @VeganLinked
      @VeganLinked 8 месяцев назад

      @@MatthewDangyou That's a good idea!

  • @castielvargastv7931
    @castielvargastv7931 11 месяцев назад

    The Condor ssd handle costs 300! This is a ridiculous price for what this thing is

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад +1

      yeahhhh that is fair! It is a one time purchase for a glorified SSD reader but the down side is I don't think it even comes with storage itself.

  • @castielvargastv7931
    @castielvargastv7931 11 месяцев назад

    Hm as i want no crop in 4 k 60 and i want 4k120 the g92 looks like a better buy to me. Yes the s5 is full frame but it can do less than my old gh5 from 2018 in a way. The g9 is a Superior camera in almost any way. Better rolling shutter, no crop plus 4k 120 and i dont care about excessive bokee or low light

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад

      true true! All valid points, for me owning the GH6 I almost never use the 4K 120 though. And no crop on MFT cameras is also slightly debatable because a 12-60mm is more like a 24-120mm since it is 2 times crop for the lenses when compared to Full Frame but it is nice that is doesn't crop in when changing frame rates though. The G9ii is interesting, I will have my hands on it soon to be testing

    • @Bigcookfilms
      @Bigcookfilms 11 месяцев назад +1

      G9ii can overheat so that's a big no no for me. TBH for me 4k 120fps is overrated. I didn't use it on the A7Siii or the Z Cam E2 M4. I used to love M43 but I would revert back to it now that I've went full frame. The G9ii is a great camera for m43 users though.

    • @castielvargastv7931
      @castielvargastv7931 11 месяцев назад

      @@Bigcookfilms i own a gh5 and it never Overheats. Mft cameras do not overheat , not even in summer for me. My friend owns a g92 and he can record 4k120 until his card us full, no problems.

    • @Bigcookfilms
      @Bigcookfilms 11 месяцев назад +1

      @castielvargastv7931 It's been tested...I've owned a GH5 also one of my favorite cameras. The G9ii doesn't have a fan but can record the same as the GH6 which has a fan.

    • @Bigcookfilms
      @Bigcookfilms 11 месяцев назад

      @@castielvargastv7931 Check out micro four nerds g9ii video at the 12:35 minute mark

  • @JustAaronJoshua
    @JustAaronJoshua 11 месяцев назад

    Yes :)

  • @XYZVISUALS713
    @XYZVISUALS713 8 месяцев назад

    My Sony a74 is worth it

  • @krzysztofniewiadomski7009
    @krzysztofniewiadomski7009 6 дней назад

    You all start to live in a total illusion guys if you buy a new camera and in less than half a year ask a question is it worth... of what? To have it? To buy it again? You think we all in the industry gonna change the cameras constantly twice a year because there are few newer cameras on the market? ;) It`s nonsense. When you buy a camera you gonna work with this camera for at least 2-3 years - it`s an investment, workhorse, not a toy. We have job to do, content to create, sets to record ;). We don`t have time to analyze month after month did we make a good decistion with this camera or another... Only tech-geeks earning money on RUclips creates such a silly titles like "WORTH IT AFTER 5 MONTHS"? Of course it`s worth it. It`s gonna be valuable also in 2025, 2026, probably 2027. To be more funny do an episode like "DJI NEO - STILL WORTH IT AFTER 5 DAYS?", or "TOP 5 CAMERAS THAT ARE WORTH THE PRICE LONGER THAN A WEEK". ;)

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  6 дней назад +1

      Well it’s more for people who are thinking about buying this camera and have been thinking it still worth it considering all the other cameras that get released in the year🤷🏼‍♂️ I own most of all lumix cameras so of course I think it will be worth it but kinda my job to point out all the little flaws for people who want to invest $2K

  • @youfollow_
    @youfollow_ 11 месяцев назад

    I HOPE THE S1H11 REMOVE ROLLING SHUTTER!

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah I never had a problem with rolling shutter. I did an entire short soccer shoot and didn't notice any crazy issues with it even when doing fast pace movements like running with the camera

    • @youfollow_
      @youfollow_ 11 месяцев назад

      @@MatthewDangyou its minimal stuff you saw...

  • @legniak1
    @legniak1 9 месяцев назад

    After 5 months? 😂

  • @CTcoreytrevor
    @CTcoreytrevor 11 месяцев назад

    A camera with a 1.5x crop at 4k 60p is worth nothing to me. In all seriousness if I didn't have a camera, and panasonic sent this to me for FREE, I would sell it and buy a different camera. Completely, completely useless with a 4k60 crop. How Sony can manage a camera with no crop at 4k60 in the size of something like the FX3, and Panasonic can't manage it in any of their FF cameras....shows how far behind Lumix is. And by the way, I love Lumix. But it's pretty pathetic when their micro 4/3 lineup absolutely crushes their FF lineup.

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад +1

      I think it has less to do with the crop and more about the price point. The S1H a few year old camera that cost $3,500 can do 4K 4:2:2 10 Bit 60fps no crop. Meanwhile, the S5ii is at $2,000 and the FX3 is at $3,800. So Lumix can put in the 4K 60fps no crop, but they just need to be wise on making sure people buy the higher end cameras at the end of the day. The S2H (new model) most likely will just be the GH6 but fullframe and with phase detect.

    • @herisson207
      @herisson207 11 месяцев назад

      @@MatthewDangyou When will they reveal the S2H? Do you have any ideea? Thanks!

    • @MatthewDangyou
      @MatthewDangyou  11 месяцев назад

      Honestly no clue. My hope is next year

    • @CTcoreytrevor
      @CTcoreytrevor 11 месяцев назад

      @@MatthewDangyou The S1H has a super 35mm crop at 4k60p, meaning a user cannot shoot full frame 4k 60p on the S1H or any of Panasonic's full frame cameras. The only cameras that Lumix makes that can shoot 4k 60p without a crop are their micro 4/3 cameras.

    • @mattricci2981
      @mattricci2981 9 месяцев назад

      People that stream are using 1080p so you’re wrong here saying it’s useless without 4K 60 not everyone needs that

  • @mostfrequencies4981
    @mostfrequencies4981 9 месяцев назад

    Keep your head still and your glasses straight. It's distracting,

  • @tonymag28
    @tonymag28 8 месяцев назад

    after 5 months....dude calm down, automatic dislike and unfollow