Sam Monson answers: Is Sam Darnold elite? Will he beat the Packers?

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @bladerunner1680
    @bladerunner1680 День назад +7

    I think the league loves the idea of Vikings @ Lions for the #1 seed, we could see the calls help steer the Packers game to that end. We know how "they" love to hype up a good story to generate buzz for the game, season, & league.

    • @MINNESOTA_PTSD
      @MINNESOTA_PTSD 21 час назад

      Tbh , the Vikings can’t lose this game and be taken seriously.
      -The Sam Darnold story
      - The upstart head coach
      - The stock market GM
      - The #1 defense in football
      - The best WR in football
      - The RB looking to stick it to his former team…..
      And you lose ????
      So the Week 18 matchup for #1 seed means nothing ???
      You just can’t lose that game.
      You just can’t.
      You can lose week 18.
      But ain’t no coming back from losing at home to your arch rival , quieting every ounce of hype/momentum your team had heading into the playoffs.
      Nope.
      You beat GB.
      You go to Det.
      You show out.
      And win or lose.
      Your head held high. 💯

    • @martygras378
      @martygras378 13 часов назад

      I hope you're right, but I have seen similar narratives with other teams other seasons, where it went the other way. If things start to seem too predictable, the NFL seems to have a way of going against it, whether it's through the refs, through the players, or a combination thereof.

  • @CrudPig12
    @CrudPig12 15 часов назад +2

    Love only has a cap hit of $20 mil this year. The Lions have a bunch of key players still on rookie deals. There are ways to pay a QB and still have a competitive roster. But a lot of stuff has to go right. I personally would like to see a few years of Vikings football where they aren't in cap hell from overpaying a non elite qb. Fill the roster holes around JJ's contract. Even if he isn't a stud right away, i have no doubt in this offense that JJ can at least be a serviceable starter that can move the ball and score some points. It seems like everyone thinks the offense is currently putting up like 40 a game all because of Darnold. He's looked good, but he's also still inconsistent.

  • @Score1more
    @Score1more День назад +2

    Whatever glaring needs this team has, you’ll see over the next couple of weeks.

    • @forestspiritsforaging
      @forestspiritsforaging День назад +1

      Yea interior of the lines & DBs are going to really be tested from here on out. No bad opponents left from here on out.

  • @forestspiritsforaging
    @forestspiritsforaging День назад +1

    Kirk took over a team on the verge of a Superbowl too. I think there's just as much risk in giving Sam Darnold a 3yr deal & he potentially regresses. To me O'Connell is the reason the bottom wouldn't completely drop out. Yet it is interesting to me that so many people just seemingly assume this is Sam Darnold now. Theres this unspoken belief that they'll be at 13 wins next year for sure if they just resign him. I love & appreciate what hes done so much. Tagging & trading him is the move. We need picks badly & there is no worry about finding a trade partner anymore. The national media is all saying the Vikings are crazy for not locking up Darnold just as they said we're crazy for letting Kohl's Cash broken as* & fake personality go. Point is the league wants Darnold & the market will be competitive. We can be 1 & done in the playoffs this year & somebody is trading a 2nd for him minimum.That is in cement. You move on with the $4 million dollar kid thats going to shock the league with what hes capable of & who he is. Then you bring in your pick of big time FAs with the extra $40-$50 Mil.

    • @MoMoMyPup10
      @MoMoMyPup10 14 часов назад

      This isn't 3 or 4 or 5 games, this is 15 games and still getting better. This is Sam Darnold now. He is exactly the player that KOC wants running his offense, and the only reason anyone would talk themselves out of wanting him back is the money. And I'm not sure why some think another team will be willing to give up premium picks + sign him for a big contract when you can have him for just money, and probably at a less than market value deal.

    • @martygras378
      @martygras378 13 часов назад

      ​@@MoMoMyPup10The Vikings have played a soft schedule. The next 2 games, and the playoffs will say a lot about what you do with Sam Darnold.

    • @jimbo92107
      @jimbo92107 41 минуту назад

      Analysts are seeing how Darnold is now throwing beautiful anticipation throws to JJ and Adds. Darnold will keep getting better with more reps. His ceiling is a taller, stronger Kurt Warner.

  • @JohnKan-uo7ne
    @JohnKan-uo7ne Час назад

    JJ was a 85 QB in preseason and had a major injury that required two surgeries which has been a year for him to heal. Kirk was a 100 QB before he had a major injury that took a year to heal. QB Bridgewater was injured at the height of his performance. Darnold is a 105 QB and never has had injuries that needs a year to heal in five regular NFL seasons. Vikings will choose JJ and let him walk as NY Jets?

  • @jimbo92107
    @jimbo92107 16 часов назад

    What most people missed about Sam Darnold was comparing his talent to KOC's internal examples. Even going back to the Rams, there was evidence that Kevin O'Connell was doing great work optimizing the talent of his QBs. Matt Stafford looked great. Then, after becoming HC for Minnesota, KOC's QBs immediately improved. Notably, Kirk Cousins had improved seasons, and then we saw the shocking episode with Passtronaut Dobbs, and even a flash of good play from Nick Mullens.
    Point is, if we compare their physical talent to what we saw in Sam Darnold, the "draft flop" always looked a lot better. Taller, stronger, better arm, cool and determined, surprisingly athletic. Now working with the best coach he'd ever had.
    Consider just Mullens. His main shortcoming is what? He's a mad bomber, and KOC hasn't been able to make him stop throwing deep balls at every opportunity. Now, add a few inches of height, a much stronger arm, max out the accuracy, and minimize the foolish throws. That version of Mullens would be pretty close to what Sam Darnold looks like.
    The best news is, what Sam has learned from KOC isn't the kind of stuff he'll forget. Darnold is going to be an excellent QB for a long time, wherever he goes. He'd love to stick around Minnesota for another year, but he will now make any QB needy team a lot better.

    • @martygras378
      @martygras378 13 часов назад

      Dobbs went backwards in KOC's system. Dobbs looked great for 2 games, mostly because of his athleticism and off script plays. When he tried to stay within the system, he looked awful.

    • @jimbo92107
      @jimbo92107 45 минут назад

      @@martygras378 Of course. That's why KOC let Dobbs go, and picked up Daniel Jones later.

  • @johnnycook1035
    @johnnycook1035 День назад +1

    Been a vikings fan for 30 years. In that time, they’ve had some one year rentals at qb who have balled for a season (Favre, Keenum, Bradford) but have never had a franchise guy- Unfortunately Culpepper and Bridgewater were never the same after significant injuries. Vikings have won 13 games despite being a flawed team. Their o-line is suspect; they cannot get qb pressure without blitzing; and they need two new DBs. If Darnold can elevate this team and get them to a superbowl I would agree with them re-signing him at the going rate. Anything less means this organization has use the 70m in salary cap monies to be major players in free agency; sign Daniel Jones to a team-friendly deal and allow him and JJ compete next year

    • @heinzbucksandcastle2053
      @heinzbucksandcastle2053 День назад

      Why are they a flawed team? That makes no sense.

    • @johnnycook1035
      @johnnycook1035 День назад +1

      The Vikings flaws include: average to below average offensive line. Darnold faces alot of pressure. His mobility mitigates this issue. Look at the Vikings’ winning td drive from the Seattle game and you’ll see that he was walloped or sacked 3 times (one was the sack negated by the face mask). Next the Vikings lack a run stopper who can pressure up the middle. As a result they are vulnerable against a physical running team that can attack the middle of the field and on the outside. They mitigate this with games and exotic blitzes. Cannot consistently get pressure on the qb with 4. By flawed I mean this team is not built to beat a healthy Philadelphia team on the road. It will be tough to get the one seed because both GB and Detroit can exploit the Vikings’ defense. If Sam can help them win despite these flaws, then I say pay the man!!!

    • @CrudPig12
      @CrudPig12 16 часов назад

      ​@@johnnycook1035they've won multiple games on the backs of the defense where Darnold struggled in. The oline isn't as bad as your making it out to be. And Darnold still seems indecisive or just holds onto the ball too long at times. And the majority of Darnold's throws are you to open receivers on timing routes. The team has holes, I'll agree. But instead of fixing those other roster gaps, you'd rather throw money at a non elite QB? I'd stick with McCarthy, who is also mobile and has an NFL arm. Upgrade the weak spots on the roster with the money saved. I feel like too many fans are content with the $70 mil or whatever in cap space that is free next year and just want to spend it all in one off-season.

    • @seancurtis3975
      @seancurtis3975 16 часов назад

      ​@@CrudPig12I'm on the same side as far as I think this teams ceiling is higher to roll with JJ and spend money to make this a true super bowl caliber roster. I believe JJ can be special and I believe KOC can make that happen. But I can't deny that Sam has looked like an elite QB so many times this year. I don't want them to resign him but I wouldn't hate if they used the tag on him and gave him one more year. He doesn't have to win 13 or 14 games again next year but if he can play like this again and make them real contenders again next year then plans might just have to change.

    • @johnnycook1035
      @johnnycook1035 15 часов назад +1

      Darnold has played great most of the season but It remains to be seen if he is elite. You make your bones during the playoffs. Since I’ve been a fan, this team is 0-4 in nfc championship games. If Sam Darnold can drive this team to the superbowl, then by definition that would make him elite. You have to pay him and give him top dollar. If this team peters out in the playoffs, then Darnold is no different from Favre, Culpepper, Keenan, or Cunningham. If he doesn’t elevate this team when it counts the Vikings can bring in good players at key positions. I believe this is a great offensive system with talented weapons. If the coaches have confidence that JJ or Daniel Jones (on a team-friendly contract) can thrive, I will defer to them with confidence.

  • @MINNESOTA_PTSD
    @MINNESOTA_PTSD 20 часов назад

    I would compare the Vikings opportunity vs GB this week to be the equivalent of a heavy underdog upsetting a team in the Div round and moving on to the Conf champ against a total juggernaut.
    Nobody expects the Vikings to win the 1 seed.
    Beating GB isn’t about the 1 seed at all.
    It’s about full circle validation , the buzz leading up to @Det, and verification that this team is in fact, for real.

  • @toddaulner5393
    @toddaulner5393 22 часа назад

    We need pressure on Love and sacks! Our running game needs to break to the outside and screan passes. Two arms on the ball Aaron!

  • @mrmayortheiv
    @mrmayortheiv 3 часа назад

    The thing I'm afraid of with paying Darnold isn't about closing a Superbowl window due to his pay. I know we can kick the can down the road a couple of years. I'm just afraid of what happens then, when the bill comes due. Do we turn into the Saints?

  • @glenbroemer
    @glenbroemer День назад

    one announcer noted that the vikes and packers usually split their season series. vikes weak up the middle and their success is slightly illusory. close but not there yet.

  • @leonardshevlin7260
    @leonardshevlin7260 18 часов назад

    He's elite.
    Let him call his own plays.

  • @arnoldjanikowski7122
    @arnoldjanikowski7122 День назад +12

    JJ looked a lot better than Sam in camp in the Redzone drills he’d go 9/10 with getting TD’s Sam would only go 2/10 getting the offense in the endzone JJ really did look like the better QB in camp with the same offensive players vs the same defenses Sam went against. Sam is great but he is the product of KOC and JJ ADDI and HOCK. We have to roll with the kid and stick with the plan vs throwing all the $ at Sam

    • @BM-si2ei
      @BM-si2ei День назад +1

      Agreed

    • @mgtow-balance3409
      @mgtow-balance3409 День назад +2

      i don't agree
      #InDarnoldWeTrust14

    • @javiernegron9525
      @javiernegron9525 День назад +4

      We talking about practice

    • @forestspiritsforaging
      @forestspiritsforaging День назад

      ​@@mgtow-balance3409 We all trust Darnold. What we trust more is KOC & long before the draft JJ was the #1 guy for me. He's going to be elite, everyone is severely missing out on his potential & physical tools. It's kinda mind blowing. He's also 21, Darnold is 27, he's $4 million a year, Darnold will be $45-$55 a year. The extra $40-$50 million per year to add DBs, DTs, G, maybe center. That is why you do it. It's not about trusting or not trusting Darnold. It's about building the best roster you can before you're forced to pay a QB top of the market $.

    • @bladerunner1680
      @bladerunner1680 День назад +2

      I'm completely content to roll with whatever the Vikings brass decides to do, I feel they have earned that! there is nothing I can do to sway their decisions anyway.

  • @EnigmaticVayne
    @EnigmaticVayne День назад +2

    We have 6 prior years of Sam Darnold. You don't pay him for this one year.
    JJ is the future. Daniel Jones is the backup. Mullens is the reserve. Book it

    • @jaredpribyl
      @jaredpribyl День назад

      Bucs paid Baker…and he kept ballin

    • @EnigmaticVayne
      @EnigmaticVayne День назад

      @jaredpribyl Darnold has never had anywhere near the success that baker had. Darnold is a one year wonder.
      Just like Keenum. Just like Cunningham.

    • @bladerunner1680
      @bladerunner1680 День назад +2

      ​@EnigmaticVayne I would agree if he was old like Cuttingham, or physically limited like Keenum. He's not past his prime or physically limited for the position, so I think in the same situation you will get similar results next season.

    • @ryanwall1780
      @ryanwall1780 День назад

      Too early to book anything

    • @seancurtis3975
      @seancurtis3975 15 часов назад

      ​@@jaredpribylhe did but the Bucs aren't true super bowl contenders. I'm tired of reaching for good seasons and maybe a playoff win. I'd rather roll the dice, JJ has a lot of talent, great leader and KOC might be able to turn him into a star. If he can and they have the money to fix their weaknesses because they're not paying a lot for their QB then maybe they are the team to beat and possibly win a damn ring.

  • @forestspiritsforaging
    @forestspiritsforaging День назад +1

    JJ McCarthy was & is QB #1 out of that class. I said it 6 months before the draft. Had he come back he'd be clear #1 this year by even national media, who has surface level knowledge. Just watch & see what this kid does with KOC.

    • @MINNESOTA_PTSD
      @MINNESOTA_PTSD 20 часов назад

      Stop acting like you’re smarter than everyone else and speaking in absolutes about JJ and other QBs.
      Out here presenting opinion as fact to stroke your own ego.

    • @forestspiritsforaging
      @forestspiritsforaging 9 часов назад

      @@MINNESOTA_PTSD I'm going out on a limb by saying that. People laughed & told me he was a 3rd pick in the fall of last year. We're all on the same side here & what the Vikings have lacked their entire franchise is a top 5 QB on earth. I believe they finally have that in JJ McCarthy. Not that he comes out as that day 1 at 22 years old. But we have 15 years of elite QB play & multiple Superbowls with this kid & KOC I fully believe. I believed it when he was at Michigan, this kid is the next big thing & I hate Michigan. Now if they win it all this year with Sam, then we all celebrate like crazy & you definitely run it back with him while JJ is in his rookie deal. Whatever happens, I trust KOC. The guy is on his way to be one of the all-time great coaches. So far when his QB doesn't get hurt he's producing 13 win seasons, battling Donashell, cutting edge offensively, brilliant mind, great human being. The Vikings are set-up as well as any team in the NFL that doesn't have Patrick Mahomes & Taylor Swift for ratings.

  • @Ineed2fabb
    @Ineed2fabb 2 часа назад

    Just look at where he was drafted no # 3 over all to one of the worst QB neede teams that ruin QB's carrers. Just take a good look at the previous QB's the jets have had, and then the panthers come on the two worst teams for years. The jets for decades, his play shows why he was a 3rd over all drafted...

  • @tohdbld
    @tohdbld День назад

    Vikings path to victory on Sunday will be through T.J. And Jones against an overly aggressive GB defense.

  • @leonardshevlin7260
    @leonardshevlin7260 17 часов назад

    The big play that could cost the game could be another special teams blunder.
    And throw in a high-risk trick play that fails or a key uncorrected mistake by an official and an uncharacteristic miss by our human kicker or uncharacteristic drop by a supremely talented receiver and it's another missed opportunity.

    • @martygras378
      @martygras378 13 часов назад

      Hopefully it's the Packers with those sorts of mistakes

  • @heinzbucksandcastle2053
    @heinzbucksandcastle2053 День назад

    If Vikes lose week 17 there is no more week 18, we are a 5 seed. Yuk.

    • @traderduke2
      @traderduke2 16 часов назад

      Yes, but #5 seed only means, road game at Atlanta. Vikings are totally solid on the road. Against a rookie QB, Vikings should be content with that matchup.

    • @seancurtis3975
      @seancurtis3975 15 часов назад

      If the Vikings lose week 17 and 18 then they will drop to the 6 seed because Green Bay is going to win week 18 and then Green Bay would be going to Atlanta while Minnesota would probably go to LA. 5 seed is better than the 6 seed

  • @Score1more
    @Score1more День назад

    No your right like Kirk Cousins

  • @xophaser
    @xophaser День назад

    Darnold talent level play style is a poorman Mahomes. He reminds me of a young Russel Wilson too, deep throws and scramble to keep drive alive in the 4th quarter. Wilson was just short so he couldn't see over the middle and so he didn't pass over the middle or didnt quick passes much. He held onto the ball longer than most QBs. Daniel Jone is more like a poorman Josh Allen with that running ability, but without Allen's arm strength/ ability. i guess like Jalen hurt too. Hurt is a good runner but average arm talent, plus great RB. lamar jackson is a Mike Vick. Didn't watch much of JJ McCarthy except for the bowl game. JJ McCarth looks like a Darnold style too, but if his knee ever recover so he can scramble is a question.
    The 9ers superbowl window is over, they got hurt and over paided. Purdy arm lost the SB to Mahome. They are eying Darnold again. Purdy is a smart QB, but Sheigaian wanted a strong arm QB, they drafted Trey Lance and Signed Darnold.

    • @leonardshevlin7260
      @leonardshevlin7260 18 часов назад

      Daniel Jones and Josh Allen both did very well on the Wonderlic.

  • @pridemyselfwithnontrolling5230
    @pridemyselfwithnontrolling5230 День назад

    This dude has an extremely heavy Canadian accent lol

  • @lukelee3
    @lukelee3 7 часов назад

    When was the last time a cheap qb won a superbowl, let a rookie? Lol