They need to make a dead rising set on a cruise ship. It would be somewhat similar to the mall setting but it would also have the benefit of being stranded in the middle of the ocean.
That's genuinely a fantastic idea. It would also give a natural time limit as well, and potentially some shenanigans about piloting the ship and storms or something could happen.
@@DeadX2 DR2 frank edition is the best it both dr1 and dr2. Dr1 has dated controls plus once you know about the mini chainsaw and magazines the game gets stale fast.
@@slayking2378 dude controls arent even dated at all quit coming up with excuses sandbox is boring af and story is littraly the same why the hell would i play it its the same except a few differences lol and game is still fun so ur argument is invaild good day
@@DeadX2 they are hella dated let your member berries were off and go play both games. Dr2 ofr is way more fun looks better and not a pain in the ass. Not saying DR1 is trash definitely one of my most memorable games playing as a kid. Plus once you know about the mini chainsaw magazine combo there is no reason to use anything else. Pretty boring if you ask me
I’d like to believe that this is a movie that the real Frank West is watching, and at the end of the game/movie it would pan out to show the theater and Frank commenting “well that was a load of crap”. As he exits the theater he sees that another outbreak as started up while he was watching and it shows Frank West, voiced by TJ Rotollo and says “the real Frank West is back” And that my friends is how I would show a teaser trailer for Dead Rising 5
As cathartic as this would be I’d rather they just stop trying with frank, trying to double back and bring back “real frank” would just be shitting on the VA for this game and he honestly doesn’t deserve it
I 'd love to see that, like he leaves the near empty theater (he looks back to see a couple making out) he leaves only to find everyone in the theater is gone and when he looks outside he sees people being eaten by zombies and all Frank says "You've got to be fucking kidding me!"
Meanwhile, Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite (a game from 2017) has Frank West, Dante from DMC, and Chris Redfield all having their OG voice actors and appearance. All three after having their own games that changed their VAs and appearance. Thought that was interesting
Capcom as a company always does this, driving their series into the ground, and then a few years pass and they release a new one in the franchise that rejuvenates the franchise. Here's hoping Dead Rising: Please Accept Our Apology comes soon.
33:16 the blender juices weren't removed in DR3, they were instead implemented into the combo system (so holding two food items would allow you to combine them). very weird decision but i guess it was a little more convenient that way but can be easy to miss
I like to make believe that the main character really is Hank East. Pretending to be. K I typed this as you brought up the theory. There are no such things as an original thought.
Frank *sees something shocking in DR* "Jesus christ!" Frank *sees something shocking in DR2 OTR* "Well what do we have here?" "Frank" *sees a couple of maniacs running up on him in DR4* "am I supposed to be scared of you maniacs? 'cause am a little"
This Frank feels like a Ash Williams and Frank West had an evil kid together, I get so many Ash vibes (which isn’t bad, it just doesn’t fit Frank) they got inspired by other characters for sure, and they wanted to make him feel fresh, but missed the mark
Fun fact: plans for a Dead Rising 5 was in development by CAPCOM VANCOUVER, but it would’ve been a midquel, where we would’ve been reunited with Chuck Green and Katy, where they would’ve gone to Mexico. However, the game was cancelled due to CV shutting down but there are gameplay on what the game could’ve looked like. Just thought I’d bring this up. (And now we’re getting a remake of the first game)
Just a few things: - I think the reason people HATE DR4 is that they believe it is the biggest insult to the series. A game series that once was using everything in a mall as a weapon to survive became a mindless hack-and-slash, arcade-like series. Crowbcat made a great comparison video between DR1 and DR4 that manages to get his point across without any commentary. GhenryPerez also made a great video describing the marketing behind this game as the studio constantly bragged that they were "going back to their roots" (even though they didn't make the first game and this game does NOT in any way capture the spirit of the original) and, at some points, even say their story would be better than the first two games. His video is called "developing deception." I highly recommend it. - I actually think the plot has some potential with the clone aspect and Dr. Barnaby's research. But, they don't dive into it, big surprise. Instead, they focus on dumb characters, shallow gameplay, and terrible writing. -Everyone can agree on this Frank essentially being a completely different character. -I'm sure that people will spam this in the comments, but the Brad character who meets Frank is a returning character from one of the DR3 DLCs. Again, great work on the analysis.
That's the first I heard of the Brad thing, very weird. No clue why they named him Brad or made him so useless of a character. It's outright nuts how many interesting ways they could have taken the story/themes. Like i said, a planet of the apes take with sentient zombies vs humans would have been rad. The ethical dilemma of killing diseased humans(zombies) was brought up for nothing, yet again(like in DR2). Cloning was brought up for no reason, even though it could have been used as a way to explain why Frank was so different. He was cloned. (i'm not sure how or why, but honestly, it would at least clear the not-frank issue up). The slave labor zombies thing was never really discussed in-depth for some reason. There was barely a mention of climate change/humans destroying the earth besides that one time calder mentioned it. So many ways they could have taken the story, but went with "frank and vick are mad at each other, now they're not" and "investigation of the big monster" angles instead. Fucking RIP.
What annoys me is that Capcom Vancouver directed OTR which had Frank and he felt more like a natural evolution of Frank from dead rising 1 then in this. Like all they had to do is write Frank like they did in OTR and you would at least solve the problem of Frank being incredibly out of character.
To me i can see what were trying to do with Frank joking around in Dead rising 4 as Giving the fact he got PTSD he most likely trying to joke around as a way of dealing with his issues and problems and not trying to deal with the fears of things but the way it was handled makes me think they wren't even trying to find a way to help find a better way of giving frank a new way to deal with his PTSD
By the time this game was made CV had gone through so many employee changes that nobody who really worked on Dead Rising 2 was even around anymore. At best there was still staff who worked on 3... as their only dead rising game.
I had my wisdom teeth out right after I bought this game and, I swear, being high on painkillers is the only reason I was able to get past the first 20 minutes and actually finish the game
They should have down a dead rising game where the location is a theme park (Something like a Disney/Six Flags parody) under lockdown after an zombie outbreak unfolds.
They can simply redo the entire game like a Zack Snyder cut type of thing to try and make it feel Canon and redo the entire game completely by having stuff that makes Dead Rising Iconic like the timer, Frank West being Frank West and not a joke, and the psychopaths I think idea of a Christmas themed Dead Rising game is great on paper just wish it wish we didn't get this
I remember when I first heard Franks voice and the utter disappointment that immediately sank in afterwards. He sounds so much like Bender from Futurama it's ridiculous, and I can't hear anything else. He even fucking acts like Bender sometimes. I've really dug these Dead Rising vids, they've been fantastic and the effort put into these babies is most appreciated. As far as I'm concerned the first is and always will be a classic, but I'll be damned if it isn't tough to play it these days. It's one of those games that just stresses me the fuck out, probably because I'm way older now than when I first played it. Life is now one big time crunch, so I guess I try to steer clear of that type of shit with my entertainment. Great vids, I've had a blast!
Bro, I just binged all of your dead rising critiques today, and I’m blown away, they’re so thorough, I’m very impressed. Reminds me of the Shrek films, as both those films and your videos are of incredible quality
Yeah, the whole "Livestock for meat produce" thing wasnt apparently the reason that zombies happened, no no no Its because Barnaby wanted to discover immortality? I mean come on, Barnaby was insane, but he wouldnt ever exploit zombies for the use of human evolution - all it was is to meet demands for meat consumption
I wish that Capcom will do a reboot of this franchise or just go back to it. I miss the original Dead Rising, it would be nice if a new game could be developed in house
Y'know, there's a part of me that's really glad Frank's original VA didn't voice him in 4. It means I can completely separate Frank West from the fourth game entirely. Fourth Frank looks and sounds nothing like actual Frank, so you know what? It's not Frank 🙄 Thanks, Capcom.
Dead Rising 1 i played thru 6+ times, survival mode played around 60+ hours over the years (that mall music still haunts me and plays in my head at random.) Dead rising 2 i played thru twice and mostly enjoyed. Came back a few times for fun and achievements. Dead rising 2.5 I played twice by myself and another time in co op with my wife and liked it better than 2 Dead rising 3...I tried to co op it with my wife but we wandered away to other games at the halfway point. Didn't enjoy it as much and haven't returned to it. Dead rising 4 i started it before i learned what they had done to the game, played a few hours in disappointment. Ended up feeling disgusted by the whole experience and uninstalled.
I remember being hyped for dead rising 4. I was a big fan of the series and I even liked 3 , it was fun. When the reviews came I was thinking „it cant be that bad” and then when I started playing I got to know that its even worse.
In regards to the character of Brad, he was a playable character in one of the Dead Rising 3 DLC expansions. Capcom Vancouver brought him in this game for some reason.
You watch.. Dead Rising 5 will have the real frank talking about the events of dead rising 4 being a nightmare he had. "I even died at the end and became a zombie"
When I firts saw the teaser for dr4 I didn't realise it was frank sat in the chair. I thought the main guy from the deadrising movies would be the main character. He is also a freelance journalist but in the first one he stuggles to kill a single zombie in an allyway filled with random objects.
I bought DR4 on steep sale a few years ago and have yet to finish it. There’s no feeling of progression or interest to keep you going/slogging through it.
I really enjoyed this entire critique and respect your thoughts about DR4. Moreover thanks a lot for the time stamps and the way you made your essay. Left a like 👍
For all your complaints about the senseless murder of human enemies, did you forget how even back in the original Frank cut down through dozens of cultists without batting an eye? If there is a game to delve into the toll of taking a human life, it is definitely not Dead Rising.
@@Deadsea_1993 How do we know that? Cliff had an emotional death scene - he also strung people up and tortured them to death with a machete. Totally possible the cult roped in some innocent people, as cults tend to. Or did Willamette just have a few hundred serial killers sitting around that we just weren’t told about?
Barnaby's cat named flamel is actually kinda funny, being that is the last name of the alchemist who supposably made the philosophers stone , a path to immortality
Hey, I noticed your a smaller channel but even a whole year later I found all your dead rising videos so entertaining! Keep it up you should definitely have more subs
Look DR4 is easily the worst Dead Rising game but I still had an absolute blast playing it. DR4 is nowhere near as good as the previous games in almost every way but I clocked in 80 to 100hrs and didn't regret it. I missed the timer a little, Hated maniacs compared to psychos, and really really missed co-op. Environmental interactions were much less varied than the others and the inventory was very simplified. I liked the safe zones better than 3 and I loved the megaplex as well as the Christmas setting tbh. I don't think it's a bad game only a bad DR game.
Safe zones are a copy unlike 3 their different and more unique than shitty dr4 and 100 hours? Dear god u watsed 100 hours of your life just down the drain and u can't even interact with any of the objects for example when u enter a sportrance in the mall it won't let u pick a baseball bat in dr1 and Dr2 you can. Pick up anything in dr4 the game tells you what is a weapon it takes the point out of a dead rising game your suppose to use anything as a weapon and this game has the worst inventory system in the world what if u pick up a chair on accident and u try to drop the chair and u can't and the themes are terrible not one memorable theme in the entire game and tj isn't voicing frank anymore
The naming conventions alone show this was Vick's game. Capcom shat the bed by changing EVERYTHING about Frank instead of just giving this a different protagonist.
About dead rising being… dead we just got shown a dead rising remaster/remake so there is some hope but Franks classic voice actor is not coming back unfortunately but I guess it makes sense since it’s a young frank west.
I'm gonna be an oddball here but I actually liked Dead Rising 4 But I feel it needs some context, I was poor, I just discovered what humble bundle was and that you could get 8 games for like a tenner or whatever and I hadn't owned a new game in over a year, and DR4 happened to be the headlining game that month. So it's like being a dying man in a desert and finding some lukewarm water But yeah I enjoyed it, if only because it was the first new thing I played in over a year. Not a glowing recommendation I know,
I totally feel that. I think we all have a story similar to yours, where you just didn't have many options and what you did have/got for cheap held you over in a surprisingly enjoyable fashion. I get it.
The people that made this game didn't even work on Dead Rising 3 or Dead Rising 2 games, it was a seperate studio. The Dead Rising 3 story with Carlito was fine since he did create children that were infected as we saw in the first game. Him creating an immune child that was a cure was fine too since Carlito didn't want to destroy humanity, he wanted to paint a message. Isabella being manipulative and conning us and Frank and Chuck was actually great writing. Anne was also the writer for Dead Rising 3, she was co-writer for Dead Rising 2, she was the writer for Case 0, Case West, and Off the Record, so I think her work was great as usual. I didn't like the nonsensical changes here and you can tell that Anne wasn't part of the writing team cause so much was wrong with this world, even if you were to exclude Frank from this. Like you mentioned, teleporting monsters, but also talking zombies, magic weapons, scrap, and exo suits. Just ridiculous. I agree that making changes to Barnaby was horrible since he actually was a good guy in the first game and he was trying to end world hunger. This one has him as being evil and trying to discover immortality ? Like what ? We know what his intentions were cause he mentioned it as did Carlito and Isabella. This further shows that this has to be an alternative universe and it explains the changes to Frank. I like your thinking when you mention "Can zombies be considered as equal individuals ?" Yet that was a huge story point in Dead Rising 2 already. That's what CURE was for and I thought it was a great addition to the series. Terror Is Reality also was creative writing and something else that seperated this series from other zombie games. I hope that we get a reboot with new characters, no combo weapons, and a modern mall. Start over and fresh. It would be cool to have TJ and Peter (Frank and Chuck) return to voice new characters.
Bought the game on sale with all dlcs included. Uninstalled less than an hour in. I don't really remember what pushed me to do so other than probably being like "so they were right, this game IS awful"
I had a similar reaction tbh. Well, you watched the intro, I said it there, but hey man I'll say it again, for sure. I was REALLY into the idea of making a video on why DR4 was good, better than what everyone says. Then I played it, and that thought fizzled out real quick.
The new map felt nothing like Willamette at all and the Christmas theme makes playing this slog of a game feel so out of place any time of the year. How did they fuck this up so bad? I pray this isn’t the last Dead Rising game we’re gonna get but honestly it seems hopeless at this point. Here’s hopes that Dead Rising 1 or 2 gets the Resident evil 4 VR treatment though.
Let's hope for a reboot. Like I wouldn't mind a new universe with new characters, no combo weapons, a new modern mall, new bad guy, etc. I think that an emphasis on the first game with modern technology would be good. I don't really want an open world. The first two as semi open world sandbox games were the Pinnacle of the series. Open world with towns and a giant city was a huge step backwards. We just need to start over entirely like Resident Evil 7 did at this point. I'd be all for TJ and Peter returning to voice new characters and we would say, that's Frank and Chuck ! Yet I don't want anymore stories from the old franchise. 3 was the ending, 4 never existed, that's it. Plus the first game was set in 2006 and we've seen that 4 had an ok idea about a giant mall set in 2021, albeit the wrong idea about ignoring it and making it giant for no reason. Just have a modern mall that is decent size in a major city and make it the only area to explore like Willamette Parkview Mall was.
@@Deadsea_1993 um dude they tried that with saints row I don't have much hope for man kind anymore and if they tried to reboot the series it would be god awful probably
The worst part about DR4 is that it wasn't wholly bad. You can see the glimmers of good ideas buried under all the nonsense and terrible decisions. If the whole thing were bad, top to bottom, that'd be an easier pill to swallow. But the fact that you can see the tiniest shreds of cool shit in there (most certainly not placed by management) it's just frustrating, and tiresome.
i feel like this game is somewhat better than the 3rd game but not by much. I do wish though that mainstream titles would make one game around the christmas theme it would be nice.
If DR4 renamed its protagonist and ditched the dead rising name and connections to the previous games the it might’ve sold half as much but at least the reviews would probably be half okay
The whole frank west voice actor reminds me of how fans defend the voice acting change from batman arkham city to arkham knight saying that the characters in origins sound different because it supposed to be younger but Arkham Origins and Asylum only take place not even ten years apart, so there is no reason Batman and Joker's voices should have changed that much
Barnaby should have come back as some sort of zombie The Hulk and told people to get out of his swamp. That's respecting the original game lore. Also as an aside I thought Calder was going to be some giant thing and then he's just dude in a suit.
How do you not have more subs. Love it. Quality of a 100k channel with only 6k keep it up Edit: just saw you have less than 2k. How is that even possible.
i just played all four games in the dead rising series (as someone whos never played them before) and the people who made dead rising 4 shouldnt even be allowed to eat lunch in the same room as the people who made dead rising 2
TJ's voice also hasn't changed much, but he still sounds fantastic. I wouldn't even care so much if the main character just wasn't Frank. If they made him some other guy I wouldn't care as much.
What i thought was that they went full Ash from Evil Dead with Frank but with way more dumb Humor. In some Screenshots back then without Context i even thought it's an Evil Dead Game because of the Color of his basic Clothing. It just doesn't match the Character for me.I like Evil Dead btw, but well, this is Dead Rising.
I wrote a comment in another video why "Dead Rising Fell Off"......Well it comes down to number of factors. For one, the whole '3 Days Until The Military Arrives" game story mechanics is too out dated for new younger players. Also, The zombie horror genre changed......its not about linear straight to the point game play anymore. Now with big budgeting writers for more popular titles such as "Resident Evil", "Dead Island", "Dying Light" & 'Days Gone" that also are Open World Sandboxes gave players a world to explore. Although, DR4 was open like but what turned us off was the map was too small & out in the world it wasn't nothing more to do but rescue distress citizens like the previous games . At this point, we wouldn't need a "DR5".....unless Capcom is willing to invest with better story writers, allow a vast open world with great quest & lastly, a great customization menus. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Every time I think about this game I always am confused as how they made 3 seem like a decent game in comparison. Who thought limiting the amount of weapon typea you have to 3 and restricting their uses was a good idea for a zombie killing sandbox game like dead rising? And removing most of the things that made the games fun like psychos just makes this feel like they never understood what people actually liked from 1 2 and hell even 3
What’s more messed up is clearly they heard the petition and public outcry of Terrance not coming back. They bring him back one year later in another bad capcom product that really pisses me off.
TJ Rotolo literally stated a hundred times that even if they had asked he would not have been able to take the job because at the time there was a strike that would have prevented him from doing it. Which likely means Capcom knew about the strike and moved on. Sorry in adult world they generally aren't going to stop production on something just for 1 actor
I literally went before class to get the game in the middle of winter, without a car during college. I walked 30 minutes into town to wait outside gamestop, just to go back, leave it to install during class, and come back... to what would be such a goddam disappointment. I defend Dr3, I do not defend this, I know there may be decent bits in it.. but I cant.
If there ever is a deadrising 5 I wanna have hope for it bc I've always been a huge fan of dead rising and a comeback is always possible so I'm willing to see what the future holds
@@taskforcekillah9722 . Only way it would be successful. Original game is still the best in the franchise. It basically was so odd and out there. There is nothing like it at all to this day. It is really sad that Dead Rising 3 and 4 basically became like any other zombie game on the market. The earlier ones were their own thing
Here a year later and got your dead rising videos recommended, hadn’t heard of you before but I love these videos and they must have been a *hulk* of a task to undertake.
Thanks for the love! Always cool to hear people stumbling on relatively older videos as their first impression of my channel. Hulk didn't end up happening quite yet, but I did just make a video on a shrek game or two! Thanks for taking the time to pause the video on a single frame you mad person, you.
They need to make a dead rising set on a cruise ship. It would be somewhat similar to the mall setting but it would also have the benefit of being stranded in the middle of the ocean.
That's genuinely a fantastic idea. It would also give a natural time limit as well, and potentially some shenanigans about piloting the ship and storms or something could happen.
@@Dorkaxe Thank you!
How would the zombie horde be replenished?
@@pausetimemugen6301 good point I didn’t think of that. Maybe it docks somewhere at some point or something.
@@Yoyomo124 There is an old game called Blue Stinger that has a outbreak of zombielikes in the middle of the ocean.
As far as I'm concerned; Frank already came back in Dead Rising 2: Off The Record.
The best dead rising game
@@slayking2378 I think original 2 and 1 are better imo but ik ur gonna fight me
@@DeadX2 DR2 frank edition is the best it both dr1 and dr2. Dr1 has dated controls plus once you know about the mini chainsaw and magazines the game gets stale fast.
@@slayking2378 dude controls arent even dated at all quit coming up with excuses sandbox is boring af and story is littraly the same why the hell would i play it its the same except a few differences lol and game is still fun so ur argument is invaild good day
@@DeadX2 they are hella dated let your member berries were off and go play both games. Dr2 ofr is way more fun looks better and not a pain in the ass. Not saying DR1 is trash definitely one of my most memorable games playing as a kid. Plus once you know about the mini chainsaw magazine combo there is no reason to use anything else. Pretty boring if you ask me
I’d like to believe that this is a movie that the real Frank West is watching, and at the end of the game/movie it would pan out to show the theater and Frank commenting “well that was a load of crap”. As he exits the theater he sees that another outbreak as started up while he was watching and it shows Frank West, voiced by TJ Rotollo and says “the real Frank West is back”
And that my friends is how I would show a teaser trailer for Dead Rising 5
As cathartic as this would be I’d rather they just stop trying with frank, trying to double back and bring back “real frank” would just be shitting on the VA for this game and he honestly doesn’t deserve it
That sounds cool.
I can just imagine that.
🔪♥️🖤
I 'd love to see that, like he leaves the near empty theater (he looks back to see a couple making out)
he leaves only to find everyone in the theater is gone and when he looks outside he sees people being eaten by zombies and all Frank says "You've got to be fucking kidding me!"
That's a great fuckin idea
A masterpiece comment this is.
Meanwhile, Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite (a game from 2017) has Frank West, Dante from DMC, and Chris Redfield all having their OG voice actors and appearance. All three after having their own games that changed their VAs and appearance. Thought that was interesting
Dante's and Chris's voice are not the OGs at all but they are the most well known voices for them lol
@RaccoonCityZoo Was saying specifically after they changed their voice actors, they had them in another game where the Older VAs reprised their role.
Capcom as a company always does this, driving their series into the ground, and then a few years pass and they release a new one in the franchise that rejuvenates the franchise. Here's hoping Dead Rising: Please Accept Our Apology comes soon.
RE7 revamped the RE franchise after it got crap so maybe in 5 years we’ll get an announcement of a game going back and being great
If you get a sequel
*sad Dragon's Dogma noises*
@@nickelakon5369 there’s literally dragons dogma 2
@@shadux5587 I made this comment like a week before the announcement
@@nickelakon5369 Fingers crossed it doesn't follow the trend.
It's a shame they never made another dead rising game after off the record
After 2* off the record is fanfiction
33:16 the blender juices weren't removed in DR3, they were instead implemented into the combo system (so holding two food items would allow you to combine them). very weird decision but i guess it was a little more convenient that way but can be easy to miss
I felt like they were trying to mimic Michael DeSanta from GTA V a bit with this new Frank West, the face model definitely looks closer.
might be more of Rob riggle really, because he played frank west in the dead rising movie
the new captain america game also looks like mike.
@@BigBoiCannonexcuse me the what
It's crazy to think that DR3 - in spite of its many, many issues - is bordering on a masterpiece compared to this despicably obnoxious shitpile.
Both are different flavours of diarrhea imo.
I like to make believe that the main character really is Hank East. Pretending to be. K I typed this as you brought up the theory. There are no such things as an original thought.
Frank *sees something shocking in DR* "Jesus christ!"
Frank *sees something shocking in DR2 OTR* "Well what do we have here?"
"Frank" *sees a couple of maniacs running up on him in DR4* "am I supposed to be scared of you maniacs? 'cause am a little"
This Frank feels like a Ash Williams and Frank West had an evil kid together, I get so many Ash vibes (which isn’t bad, it just doesn’t fit Frank) they got inspired by other characters for sure, and they wanted to make him feel fresh, but missed the mark
Makes sense, ash vs the evil dead was airing when this came out.
Fun fact: plans for a Dead Rising 5 was in development by CAPCOM VANCOUVER, but it would’ve been a midquel, where we would’ve been reunited with Chuck Green and Katy, where they would’ve gone to Mexico. However, the game was cancelled due to CV shutting down but there are gameplay on what the game could’ve looked like. Just thought I’d bring this up.
(And now we’re getting a remake of the first game)
It's not Bob North, it's Dank South.
Better than Wank Fest.
Can't wait for Dead Rising 5 and the adventures of Tuck Redde and then Dead Rising 6 with Mick Famos
Just a few things:
- I think the reason people HATE DR4 is that they believe it is the biggest insult to the series. A game series that once was using everything in a mall as a weapon to survive became a mindless hack-and-slash, arcade-like series. Crowbcat made a great comparison video between DR1 and DR4 that manages to get his point across without any commentary. GhenryPerez also made a great video describing the marketing behind this game as the studio constantly bragged that they were "going back to their roots" (even though they didn't make the first game and this game does NOT in any way capture the spirit of the original) and, at some points, even say their story would be better than the first two games. His video is called "developing deception." I highly recommend it.
- I actually think the plot has some potential with the clone aspect and Dr. Barnaby's research. But, they don't dive into it, big surprise. Instead, they focus on dumb characters, shallow gameplay, and terrible writing.
-Everyone can agree on this Frank essentially being a completely different character.
-I'm sure that people will spam this in the comments, but the Brad character who meets Frank is a returning character from one of the DR3 DLCs.
Again, great work on the analysis.
That's the first I heard of the Brad thing, very weird. No clue why they named him Brad or made him so useless of a character.
It's outright nuts how many interesting ways they could have taken the story/themes. Like i said, a planet of the apes take with sentient zombies vs humans would have been rad. The ethical dilemma of killing diseased humans(zombies) was brought up for nothing, yet again(like in DR2). Cloning was brought up for no reason, even though it could have been used as a way to explain why Frank was so different. He was cloned. (i'm not sure how or why, but honestly, it would at least clear the not-frank issue up). The slave labor zombies thing was never really discussed in-depth for some reason. There was barely a mention of climate change/humans destroying the earth besides that one time calder mentioned it. So many ways they could have taken the story, but went with "frank and vick are mad at each other, now they're not" and "investigation of the big monster" angles instead. Fucking RIP.
Now this is epic. I loved the 1st and 2nd one as kid. This one looked too different for me to try when it came out
What annoys me is that Capcom Vancouver directed OTR which had Frank and he felt more like a natural evolution of Frank from dead rising 1 then in this. Like all they had to do is write Frank like they did in OTR and you would at least solve the problem of Frank being incredibly out of character.
To me i can see what were trying to do with Frank joking around in Dead rising 4 as Giving the fact he got PTSD he most likely trying to joke around as a way of dealing with his issues and problems and not trying to deal with the fears of things but the way it was handled makes me think they wren't even trying to find a way to help find a better way of giving frank a new way to deal with his PTSD
I hope Capcom can do a turnaround with Dead Rising like they did with Resident Evil
Bring back Keiji Inafune
@@airfoemoe
Dear Lord no. Keiji was responsible for treasures like DmC: Devil May Cry or Operation Raccoon City
When Hank fell from the copter I choked up a bit.
By the time this game was made CV had gone through so many employee changes that nobody who really worked on Dead Rising 2 was even around anymore.
At best there was still staff who worked on 3... as their only dead rising game.
I had my wisdom teeth out right after I bought this game and, I swear, being high on painkillers is the only reason I was able to get past the first 20 minutes and actually finish the game
That’s not Frank West. This is the MCU version of Dead Rising.
They should have down a dead rising game where the location is a theme park (Something like a Disney/Six Flags parody) under lockdown after an zombie outbreak unfolds.
I despise this game with a red hot passion. Genuinely ruins the entire series by existing, with no way to undo what it's done and what it's changed
They can simply redo the entire game like a Zack Snyder cut type of thing to try and make it feel Canon and redo the entire game completely by having stuff that makes Dead Rising Iconic like the timer, Frank West being Frank West and not a joke, and the psychopaths I think idea of a Christmas themed Dead Rising game is great on paper just wish it wish we didn't get this
I remember when I first heard Franks voice and the utter disappointment that immediately sank in afterwards. He sounds so much like Bender from Futurama it's ridiculous, and I can't hear anything else. He even fucking acts like Bender sometimes.
I've really dug these Dead Rising vids, they've been fantastic and the effort put into these babies is most appreciated. As far as I'm concerned the first is and always will be a classic, but I'll be damned if it isn't tough to play it these days. It's one of those games that just stresses me the fuck out, probably because I'm way older now than when I first played it. Life is now one big time crunch, so I guess I try to steer clear of that type of shit with my entertainment. Great vids, I've had a blast!
The "worked tirelessly" section had me laughing way more than it should, what a meme
Bro, I just binged all of your dead rising critiques today, and I’m blown away, they’re so thorough, I’m very impressed. Reminds me of the Shrek films, as both those films and your videos are of incredible quality
The whole Barnaby lab and his opinions on Zombies be a new evolution is just a ginormous retcon. Gotta love it
Yeah, the whole "Livestock for meat produce" thing wasnt apparently the reason that zombies happened, no no no
Its because Barnaby wanted to discover immortality?
I mean come on, Barnaby was insane, but he wouldnt ever exploit zombies for the use of human evolution - all it was is to meet demands for meat consumption
I wish that Capcom will do a reboot of this franchise or just go back to it. I miss the original Dead Rising, it would be nice if a new game could be developed in house
I need to get caught up with the 2 and 3 videos but I'm really excited to watch all this, will probably binge it tonight!
Y'know, there's a part of me that's really glad Frank's original VA didn't voice him in 4. It means I can completely separate Frank West from the fourth game entirely.
Fourth Frank looks and sounds nothing like actual Frank, so you know what? It's not Frank 🙄
Thanks, Capcom.
Just binge watched the entire series! Amazing work! Can't wait for the next video.
Dead Rising 1 i played thru 6+ times, survival mode played around 60+ hours over the years (that mall music still haunts me and plays in my head at random.)
Dead rising 2 i played thru twice and mostly enjoyed. Came back a few times for fun and achievements.
Dead rising 2.5 I played twice by myself and another time in co op with my wife and liked it better than 2
Dead rising 3...I tried to co op it with my wife but we wandered away to other games at the halfway point. Didn't enjoy it as much and haven't returned to it.
Dead rising 4 i started it before i learned what they had done to the game, played a few hours in disappointment. Ended up feeling disgusted by the whole experience and uninstalled.
That's not Frank West.
That's Hank East.
Love the setting, snow and Christmas decorations…….everything else to me is shit, pure unfiltered shit.
I remember being hyped for dead rising 4. I was a big fan of the series and I even liked 3 , it was fun. When the reviews came I was thinking „it cant be that bad” and then when I started playing I got to know that its even worse.
In regards to the character of Brad, he was a playable character in one of the Dead Rising 3 DLC expansions. Capcom Vancouver brought him in this game for some reason.
The pressure is mounting. Clearly I'll need to do DR3 DLC review. Oh lord help me.
@@Dorkaxe I was just clarifying, but if you don't want to, then don't.
@@emanuelespinoza9325 I've gotten the request to do them a lot, i just joking around.
The Ed Edd n Eddy and Community clips absolutely killed me, those were really well integrated with the points you were making!
You watch.. Dead Rising 5 will have the real frank talking about the events of dead rising 4 being a nightmare he had.
"I even died at the end and became a zombie"
The shit frank says in this entry honestly feels like something youd hear in a Deadpool movie
When I firts saw the teaser for dr4 I didn't realise it was frank sat in the chair. I thought the main guy from the deadrising movies would be the main character. He is also a freelance journalist but in the first one he stuggles to kill a single zombie in an allyway filled with random objects.
You know, that's a pretty apt comparison. It honestly may have made more sense if it was that guy instead.
I bought DR4 on steep sale a few years ago and have yet to finish it. There’s no feeling of progression or interest to keep you going/slogging through it.
I just started watching this series and I was like when is he going to do Dead rising 4 lol and we're here now
Same lmaooo
I really enjoyed this entire critique and respect your thoughts about DR4. Moreover thanks a lot for the time stamps and the way you made your essay. Left a like 👍
For all your complaints about the senseless murder of human enemies, did you forget how even back in the original Frank cut down through dozens of cultists without batting an eye? If there is a game to delve into the toll of taking a human life, it is definitely not Dead Rising.
Those were evil people without redemption. Did you not see Frank react to Cliff or Adam ?
@@Deadsea_1993 excalty
They are enemies.
@@Deadsea_1993 How do we know that? Cliff had an emotional death scene - he also strung people up and tortured them to death with a machete. Totally possible the cult roped in some innocent people, as cults tend to.
Or did Willamette just have a few hundred serial killers sitting around that we just weren’t told about?
I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers loving the videos my man!
Just cracked 300, so we're on the upswing! Glad to have your support 👍
@@Dorkaxe .now nearly 3000 !
Barnaby's cat named flamel is actually kinda funny, being that is the last name of the alchemist who supposably made the philosophers stone , a path to immortality
I wonder if Nathaniel is still there? I hope he's doing well 🙏
I think he changed his name again. He's good at doing that
At least the had the courtesy to give capcom a reason to kill the franchise, and didn’t leave it on a cliffhanger
Hey, I noticed your a smaller channel but even a whole year later I found all your dead rising videos so entertaining! Keep it up you should definitely have more subs
Look DR4 is easily the worst Dead Rising game but I still had an absolute blast playing it. DR4 is nowhere near as good as the previous games in almost every way but I clocked in 80 to 100hrs and didn't regret it. I missed the timer a little, Hated maniacs compared to psychos, and really really missed co-op. Environmental interactions were much less varied than the others and the inventory was very simplified. I liked the safe zones better than 3 and I loved the megaplex as well as the Christmas setting tbh. I don't think it's a bad game only a bad DR game.
Safe zones are a copy unlike 3 their different and more unique than shitty dr4 and 100 hours? Dear god u watsed 100 hours of your life just down the drain and u can't even interact with any of the objects for example when u enter a sportrance in the mall it won't let u pick a baseball bat in dr1 and Dr2 you can. Pick up anything in dr4 the game tells you what is a weapon it takes the point out of a dead rising game your suppose to use anything as a weapon and this game has the worst inventory system in the world what if u pick up a chair on accident and u try to drop the chair and u can't and the themes are terrible not one memorable theme in the entire game and tj isn't voicing frank anymore
The naming conventions alone show this was Vick's game. Capcom shat the bed by changing EVERYTHING about Frank instead of just giving this a different protagonist.
frank is more badass and cool than ever inDR4 😎
About dead rising being… dead we just got shown a dead rising remaster/remake so there is some hope but Franks classic voice actor is not coming back unfortunately but I guess it makes sense since it’s a young frank west.
Looking forward for your video on stubbs the zombie . I love that game.
I'm gonna be an oddball here but I actually liked Dead Rising 4
But I feel it needs some context, I was poor, I just discovered what humble bundle was and that you could get 8 games for like a tenner or whatever and I hadn't owned a new game in over a year, and DR4 happened to be the headlining game that month. So it's like being a dying man in a desert and finding some lukewarm water
But yeah I enjoyed it, if only because it was the first new thing I played in over a year. Not a glowing recommendation I know,
I totally feel that. I think we all have a story similar to yours, where you just didn't have many options and what you did have/got for cheap held you over in a surprisingly enjoyable fashion. I get it.
The people that made this game didn't even work on Dead Rising 3 or Dead Rising 2 games, it was a seperate studio. The Dead Rising 3 story with Carlito was fine since he did create children that were infected as we saw in the first game. Him creating an immune child that was a cure was fine too since Carlito didn't want to destroy humanity, he wanted to paint a message. Isabella being manipulative and conning us and Frank and Chuck was actually great writing. Anne was also the writer for Dead Rising 3, she was co-writer for Dead Rising 2, she was the writer for Case 0, Case West, and Off the Record, so I think her work was great as usual. I didn't like the nonsensical changes here and you can tell that Anne wasn't part of the writing team cause so much was wrong with this world, even if you were to exclude Frank from this. Like you mentioned, teleporting monsters, but also talking zombies, magic weapons, scrap, and exo suits. Just ridiculous.
I agree that making changes to Barnaby was horrible since he actually was a good guy in the first game and he was trying to end world hunger. This one has him as being evil and trying to discover immortality ? Like what ? We know what his intentions were cause he mentioned it as did Carlito and Isabella. This further shows that this has to be an alternative universe and it explains the changes to Frank. I like your thinking when you mention "Can zombies be considered as equal individuals ?" Yet that was a huge story point in Dead Rising 2 already. That's what CURE was for and I thought it was a great addition to the series. Terror Is Reality also was creative writing and something else that seperated this series from other zombie games. I hope that we get a reboot with new characters, no combo weapons, and a modern mall. Start over and fresh. It would be cool to have TJ and Peter (Frank and Chuck) return to voice new characters.
Somehow this game has zombies that have little variety compared to the games it had before it.
To be fair, it was a sick three-pointer
I didn't know I had the Christmas zombies enabled and was baffled by the elves.
Honestly the best part of dead rising 4 for me is the Christmas music, it slaps
Bought the game on sale with all dlcs included. Uninstalled less than an hour in. I don't really remember what pushed me to do so other than probably being like "so they were right, this game IS awful"
I had a similar reaction tbh. Well, you watched the intro, I said it there, but hey man I'll say it again, for sure. I was REALLY into the idea of making a video on why DR4 was good, better than what everyone says. Then I played it, and that thought fizzled out real quick.
The new map felt nothing like Willamette at all and the Christmas theme makes playing this slog of a game feel so out of place any time of the year. How did they fuck this up so bad? I pray this isn’t the last Dead Rising game we’re gonna get but honestly it seems hopeless at this point. Here’s hopes that Dead Rising 1 or 2 gets the Resident evil 4 VR treatment though.
Let's hope for a reboot. Like I wouldn't mind a new universe with new characters, no combo weapons, a new modern mall, new bad guy, etc. I think that an emphasis on the first game with modern technology would be good. I don't really want an open world. The first two as semi open world sandbox games were the Pinnacle of the series. Open world with towns and a giant city was a huge step backwards. We just need to start over entirely like Resident Evil 7 did at this point. I'd be all for TJ and Peter returning to voice new characters and we would say, that's Frank and Chuck ! Yet I don't want anymore stories from the old franchise. 3 was the ending, 4 never existed, that's it. Plus the first game was set in 2006 and we've seen that 4 had an ok idea about a giant mall set in 2021, albeit the wrong idea about ignoring it and making it giant for no reason. Just have a modern mall that is decent size in a major city and make it the only area to explore like Willamette Parkview Mall was.
@@Deadsea_1993 um dude they tried that with saints row I don't have much hope for man kind anymore and if they tried to reboot the series it would be god awful probably
The worst part about DR4 is that it wasn't wholly bad. You can see the glimmers of good ideas buried under all the nonsense and terrible decisions. If the whole thing were bad, top to bottom, that'd be an easier pill to swallow. But the fact that you can see the tiniest shreds of cool shit in there (most certainly not placed by management) it's just frustrating, and tiresome.
i feel like this game is somewhat better than the 3rd game but not by much. I do wish though that mainstream titles would make one game around the christmas theme it would be nice.
Hopefully you plan on making a video for the Dead Rising remake.
You know it’s a bad Dead Rising game when I played 2 full play throughs of the game and have NEVER died
they named him brad to connect it to dead rising 3, it’s the same character from that game
Dead Rising 4 is Frank's fever dream, a recurring bad dream he keeps having.
Love all your content, keep up the great work mate
If DR4 renamed its protagonist and ditched the dead rising name and connections to the previous games the it might’ve sold half as much but at least the reviews would probably be half okay
The whole frank west voice actor reminds me of how fans defend the voice acting change from batman arkham city to arkham knight saying that the characters in origins sound different because it supposed to be younger but Arkham Origins and Asylum only take place not even ten years apart, so there is no reason Batman and Joker's voices should have changed that much
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That deadpan way you said "Hi bob north" made me laugh pretty hard. 😆
6:07 zombie frank looks more like frank than frank does
Barnaby should have come back as some sort of zombie The Hulk and told people to get out of his swamp. That's respecting the original game lore.
Also as an aside I thought Calder was going to be some giant thing and then he's just dude in a suit.
Since when do elementary schools have drama teachers ?
Here's the main issue even on the "hardest difficulty"
It's too easy
i'm not really sure about the whole Hulk Vs Shrek argument, but I know that it Frankly sucks having to choose either
It feels like they tried to make frank more like ash from evil dead..🤔
Frank in Dead Rising 4 sounds like the guy from Man vs Food.
How do you not have more subs. Love it. Quality of a 100k channel with only 6k keep it up
Edit: just saw you have less than 2k. How is that even possible.
Love hearing these comments, thanks dude. I think I had like 300 subs when i published this video. It's a slow grind sometimes haha
@@Dorkaxe definitely worth it tho each video it better than your last. I love the long critiques i fall asleep to that shit lmao.
i just played all four games in the dead rising series (as someone whos never played them before) and the people who made dead rising 4 shouldnt even be allowed to eat lunch in the same room as the people who made dead rising 2
TJ's voice also hasn't changed much, but he still sounds fantastic.
I wouldn't even care so much if the main character just wasn't Frank. If they made him some other guy I wouldn't care as much.
Guys it not frank west its hank south
To be frank, it's terrible.
What i thought was that they went full Ash from Evil Dead with Frank but with way more dumb Humor.
In some Screenshots back then without Context i even thought it's an Evil Dead Game because of the Color of his basic Clothing.
It just doesn't match the Character for me.I like Evil Dead btw, but well, this is Dead Rising.
I wrote a comment in another video why "Dead Rising Fell Off"......Well it comes down to number of factors. For one, the whole '3 Days Until The Military Arrives" game story mechanics is too out dated for new younger players. Also, The zombie horror genre changed......its not about linear straight to the point game play anymore. Now with big budgeting writers for more popular titles such as "Resident Evil", "Dead Island", "Dying Light" & 'Days Gone" that also are Open World Sandboxes gave players a world to explore. Although, DR4 was open like but what turned us off was the map was too small & out in the world it wasn't nothing more to do but rescue distress citizens like the previous games . At this point, we wouldn't need a "DR5".....unless Capcom is willing to invest with better story writers, allow a vast open world with great quest & lastly, a great customization menus. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Kinda super late but: Shrek not Hulk
Every time I think about this game I always am confused as how they made 3 seem like a decent game in comparison. Who thought limiting the amount of weapon typea you have to 3 and restricting their uses was a good idea for a zombie killing sandbox game like dead rising? And removing most of the things that made the games fun like psychos just makes this feel like they never understood what people actually liked from 1 2 and hell even 3
50:01 How did they misspell "you're" right after spelling it right?
Capcom Vancouver manages to impress us even to this day. Can't believe I missed that one!
I would appreciate a shreck critique
Hot take: I enjoyed every Dead Rising game
Manga: Dead Rising 1 & 2
Anime: Dead Rising 3
Netflix Adaptation: Dead Rising 4
I'd say Manga is DR1, Anime DR2/OTR, Netflix DR3, and DR4 is a SyFy exclusive made-for-TV movie.
What’s more messed up is clearly they heard the petition and public outcry of Terrance not coming back. They bring him back one year later in another bad capcom product that really pisses me off.
TJ Rotolo literally stated a hundred times that even if they had asked he would not have been able to take the job because at the time there was a strike that would have prevented him from doing it. Which likely means Capcom knew about the strike and moved on. Sorry in adult world they generally aren't going to stop production on something just for 1 actor
I literally went before class to get the game in the middle of winter, without a car during college. I walked 30 minutes into town to wait outside gamestop, just to go back, leave it to install during class, and come back... to what would be such a goddam disappointment. I defend Dr3, I do not defend this, I know there may be decent bits in it.. but I cant.
If there ever is a deadrising 5 I wanna have hope for it bc I've always been a huge fan of dead rising and a comeback is always possible so I'm willing to see what the future holds
Should go back to the og capcom in house devs
@@taskforcekillah9722 . Only way it would be successful. Original game is still the best in the franchise. It basically was so odd and out there. There is nothing like it at all to this day. It is really sad that Dead Rising 3 and 4 basically became like any other zombie game on the market. The earlier ones were their own thing
@@Deadsea_1993 facts we could only hope that capcom do the right thing though
I been waiting for this my hole life
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Here a year later and got your dead rising videos recommended, hadn’t heard of you before but I love these videos and they must have been a *hulk* of a task to undertake.
Thanks for the love! Always cool to hear people stumbling on relatively older videos as their first impression of my channel. Hulk didn't end up happening quite yet, but I did just make a video on a shrek game or two! Thanks for taking the time to pause the video on a single frame you mad person, you.
23:03 You forgot the looters from 2, but it doesn't really matter.
that radiant quest fast food analogy was great