How to Talk About Suicide with Therapy Clients + Safety Planning | Therapist THRIVAL Guide: Ep. 9

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • Suicide is a topic that can be difficult to talk about-- and sometimes it's even hard for therapists to talk about this with their clients! Instead of shying away from this topic, we brought suicidologist Brittany Miskowiec, LICSW on as a guest to discuss how to talk about this with clients and what to do if a client says that they are suicidal.
    If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, help is available. Call or text 988 or chat 988lifeline.org to reach the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.
    TIPS FOR ASKING ABOUT SUICIDE:
    1. Show them the evidence:
    Tell them what you’ve noticed and why you’re asking about suicide. Example: I’ve noticed that you’ve been showing up late for work, you’ve lost a lot of weight, and I know that you and your wife have been struggling to connect lately.
    2. Normalize it:
    I like to tell people that given the circumstances (the evidence you just showed them), it’s understandable that they might be thinking about suicide. Example: In any of those situations, someone may be thinking about suicide.
    3. Ask them directly:
    When asking someone about suicide, it’s important to be direct. We want to show the person that we’re comfortable talking about suicide and that we’re there to listen. This is why it’s important to be direct and say “Are you thinking about suicide?” or “Are you thinking about killing yourself?”
    All together, it sounds like this:
    Hey, I’ve noticed that you’ve been showing up late for work, you’ve lost a lot of weight, and I know that you and your wife have been struggling to connect lately. In any of those situations, someone may be thinking about suicide. Are you thinking about suicide?
    LINKS:
    - Common myths and facts about suicide, another video from Brittany: • Common Myths About Sui...
    - Three Tips for Asking Someone about Suicide Blog Post by Brittany: elliementalhea...
    - Ellie Mental Health: elliementalhea...
    - Mental Health Crisis Line: 988lifeline.org/
    The Therapist Thrival Guide is a podcast from Ellie Mental Health. We want to take therapists from just surviving to thriving. This is everything you didn't learn in graduate school! This podcast is hosted by Miranda Barker, MSW LICSW and Dr. Lucas Volini, LMFT. We'll have a different therapist guest for each episode to talk about what they've learned and what they want to teach other therapists. This series will be covering topics like burn-out, client retention, session structure, and balancing professional relationships.
    Find this episode on your favorite podcast platform here: anchor.fm/ther....
    Dr. Lucas Volini, LMFT, has been practicing as a marriage and family therapist for over ten years. He has worked as a couple's therapist, a graduate and undergraduate professor, researcher, author, and now as the VP of Clinical Quality at Ellie Mental Health...But he mostly sees himself as a professional recreational golfer.
    Miranda Barker, MSW, LICSW, has been practicing as a therapist for a little over a year. She previously worked as a child protection investigator, adoption social worker, and case manager. She's new to the therapy game and loves soaking up all of the knowledge from the expert therapists in her life. She's the Executive Producer at Ellie Mental Health and believes that creativity is an important aspect of mental health care.
    Therapist THRIVAL Guide is one of many creative productions from Ellie Mental Health. Ellie is an outpatient mental health clinic that began in St. Paul, Minnesota and has continued to expand to over 20 clinics in Minnesota and a growing number of franchises across the country (we'll be opening over 500 locations in communities nationwide in the near future!!).
    #normalizeit #suicideprevention #mentalhealthawareness #therapists

Комментарии • 12

  • @traditionaltools5080
    @traditionaltools5080 11 месяцев назад +4

    Excellent discussion. I will point out that building a relationship seems like a luxury when even affording a therapist is impossible. Just finding a good therapist you can afford, doesnt move, taking time off work, etc is really tough.
    I do find the idea of hope interesting. Hope in what or for what? Its such a vague term. How do you know they are amazing people or things will change? Hope by definition is fleeting. It's crossing your fingers that everything turns out in the end. Or something turns out.
    On the flip side, you have Buddhist teachings that say life is suffering. Reincarnation is endless suffering. We've built a global religion on focusing that there is no hope. Only truth.

  • @larry3498
    @larry3498 9 месяцев назад +4

    Your discussion is representative of all discussions involving professionals regarding suicide.
    In fact, you and your guests are utterly failing to discuss suicide, you are advocating the position that choosing life is always to correct choice.
    How refreshing if you included a guest who recognized some people would be better off with this life.
    What you’re doing is conducting an over long exercise in confirmation bias.

    • @torenielsen9993
      @torenielsen9993 9 месяцев назад +1

      Well said!

    • @TherapistThrivalguide
      @TherapistThrivalguide  7 месяцев назад +1

      I appreciate the feedback. This was our first episode tackling this subject (which many professionals are afraid to discuss). We hope to revisit this conversation with new guests and new ideas in the next season.

    • @GSG196
      @GSG196 3 месяца назад

      wtf

  • @GSG196
    @GSG196 3 месяца назад

    Thanks - as a new therapist this was very helpful

  • @hellfireagency
    @hellfireagency 8 месяцев назад

    If therapists can be sued, this problem will never be solved. It's impossible to get therapists to care about/for suicidal people if it could cost them their livelihood.

    • @TherapistThrivalguide
      @TherapistThrivalguide  7 месяцев назад

      It certainly makes people more fearful. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @hellfireagency
      @hellfireagency 7 месяцев назад

      @@TherapistThrivalguide what conversation? No one is allowed to fucking talk about this. We cant have conversations about it because no one wants the problem to get better and pisses me all the way the fuck off.

    • @TherapistThrivalguide
      @TherapistThrivalguide  2 месяца назад +1

      @@hellfireagency I meant thanks for commenting and adding that thought. You're pointing out a scary part of this. All therapists that I know deeply care about their clients and want them to get better. I think some therapists are underprepared in dealing with suicidal clients, which is why we added this episode and several others about this topic (you can find them in our channel). We want therapists to feel less fearful of the topic so they can address it straightforward with their clients.