Dont they use this 23 mm cannon on technicals in Syria and Iraq during the anti ISIS campaigns? They seemed to chew up other technicals and urban combat support
The Shilka was way ahead of it's time. The old analogue fire control computer was amazingly accurate for the day too. Servo's driving potentiometers to vary the integrators/differentiators etc. They used dual triodes (arranged as a long tailed pair) at one point not even semiconductors.
As a Finnish reservist trained in the 80's I can assure you that that the Shilka 4 x 23mm armoured beast was perhaps the most feared Soviet weapon system by the Finnish light infantry units. They where the vechiles to be targeted first by anti-armour weapons.
Actually, you didn’t mention “Afghan” version of ZSU-23-4. While war in Afghanistan soviet troops lacked high fire rate anti-personnel weapon with high elevation to cover from Mujahideen that was ambushing roads and camps. BMP-1 had too low rate of fire and not that high enough elevation to shoot up to the mountains (partially because of that BMP-2 has 30mm gun with high elevation). So soviets removed radar system from “Shilka” and installed additional boxes of munitions, so it increased stocks of munitions up to 4000 rounds. That modification of Shilka was in service during almost all of Afghanistan war. P.S. Sorry for my bad English, I’m Russian. By the way, thanks for your videos, Matt. I’m learning some of what Englishman thinks about Russian military equipment.
ZSU-23-4M2 aka the "Afghan" variant. Re-equipped for the Soviet-Afghan War for mountain combat. The radar system was removed and a night-sight was added. Ammunition increased from 2,000 to 4,000 rounds.
The taliban had one of those pretty much exactly how you mentioned it. I got shot at by it, It was probably one of the most unpleasant 30 seconds of my life.
with a few modern upgrades this cold war titan could be just as deadly today to helicopters and aircraft as it was in the 60s and 70s. A perfect example of "if it isnt broke don't fix it"
The problem is the short range of the cannons vs modern missiles. During Just Cause, the Americans destroyed the 23mm and 14mm cannons firing hellfires from the outside range of the systems. But with drones, cruise missiles and glide bombs being more popular than ever, a autocannon system still has a place in the arsenal.. Imagine a Shilka with a updated antidrone targeting system could has prevented the drone attack on ARAMCO.
@@ricardosoto5770 no one is updating it because 23mm was long ago deemed too small of a caliber. In contrast 30mm shells can be used with both programmator or straight up proximity fuze. Hence new ammo on modernized Tunguska and modern Panzir. Not to mention those two can serve as de facto CIWS nowadays being able to detect and intercept even mortar shells. As for drones, the problem is distance. 30mm has better reach, but still not enough for a scout that just hangs 10km away. And when you can buy hundreds of them for 200$, shooting them down with missiles that costs hundred times that is not an option. Hence why 57mm is coming back. Meanwhile USA is reintroducing 45mm and 50mm. Because they can go up to 14km of range. And as always effective counter is always a coordinated system which requires all of the above and many more
@@soulsphere9242 my mistake, 40mm and 50mm. Not 45mm. Bushmaster IV is 40mm version. 50mm version of Bushmaster III is for now called XM913 as its only finished testing. I don't know if it'll be called Bushmaster V or Bushmaster III/50mm.
@@TheArklyte Excellent post. I Agree.. I think Oto Melara has even introduced land based versions of the 76mm naval gun.. agaisnt helos with with AT missiles, 23mm or even 30mm does not cut anymore.. and drones 10km away with the same weapons.
Interesting, I suppose the reasoning was that if you could take out these threats for the air support elements, the air power could help out more effectively with the opposition armor?
Yeah. I was in a TOW PLATOON in Baumholder W. Germany from 77-80. CSC 1/13th INFANTRY 8th ID. We were scared shitless by this beast back then. It was our primary target. We were to hunt it down period.
@@paulscountry456 Shit! I lived in the field. Graffenweir, Hoensfeld, Hammelburg, and fighting possitions in Fulda. But I drank a lot of Koch Braus in the Battalion keller to compensate.
I remember the first time i saw this _Russian Anti-Air Vehicle_ the *Shilka* was from the game 13 year's ago, "World In Conflict" during the very first cutscenes. When couple of Shilka's roll's out from the Disguised Russian Cargo Ships at Seattle Harbour then wreck's havoc in the skies and couple of News Choppers went down instantly due to it's sheer firepower.
Then BTRs come up from the shore and ram the Chevolet Police out of the way and Mi-24D Hinds take off from the ships cargo holds. We really need WiC 2.
If WiC was have more realistic mechanic, this piece of hell's firepower must be most terryfiyng vehicle in game, in therms of close range or town battles. Why? Cause ewen in Post-Soviet countries (like Russia, for example) where even in small towns (50-200k ppl) most part of buildings have thick stone, brick or concrete walls (thanks for cold climate) it can breach the wall about few seconds, for example brick walls in houses have 0.5m-0.8m thickness. Compare this to murica's small towns, where in most part of houses doors can be more solid than walls.
Papaver Somniferum I bet your fucking here in the uk now tho right? Like every other of your countryman. Not that I blame you getting out that shithole mate.
@eddie money Yeah thirty years ago. With eighties radar technology. And to my knowledge, it's the only one. Not saying it makes the situation better, but the Russians advertise these new radars as near foolproof (see OP). And an airliner flying low in an exit pattern from the nearby airport is about as obvious as it gets.
@eddie money "And lied about it." Im sorry, but conspiracy theories are not the same as historical record. Try again. Cruise missiles actually usually fly really low, average 50-60 meters altitude for a tomahawk missile. This is to try to AVOID radar, amongst other things. Not to mention the radar cross section (RCS) of a relatively small cruise missile is much different than that of a passenger plane large enough to carry 170 people.
I decided to look up the Russian/Soviet 23 mm round. I never realized, just for this ZSU-23 alone that there were over 10 different rounds available for it. There are over 20 different 23mm rounds and half of them are not compatible with the ZSU-23. The things I dig for and learn after watching your videos.
It is also capable to fire against ground targets, of course... Also, it can be fired without radar tracking, using optics. That gives less warning to its target, but it is, of course, less accurate as well.
Back when I was in the Corps I worked in the Direct Air Support Center where directed air support assets to the ground elements and one of our responsibilities was keeping track of the location of AA threats and the ZSU-23-4 was always a big concern or ours.
I was a KC=130 navigator in the Corps in the 80's-90's at times carrying DASC vans. ZSU-23-4 was one of our worst nightmares when doing low level air drops and such. She is one nasty SOB.
@@daviddaniken7248 It's nice to run into another Marine that actually knows what the DASC is. Years ago, I actually got to tag along with our airborne DASC during a CAX. Because of the racetrack course you guys had, I ended up getting air sick and never did A-DASC duty again. Semper Fi, brother!
@@Riceball01 A DASC mission over 29 Palms, or any desert, can be a rough and bumpy experience. Especially in the summer in a closed van with questionable ventilation and AC capabilities. Sometimes the cargo section of the aircraft could be stifling as well. Just depended what was broken. I have to say that DASC missions were usually some of the more monotonous for us (fly a racetrack pattern at 15,000 ft for 5-6 hours) but it was obvious to us that everyone in the van felt it was good training. Did you guys get flight pay during the months that you did airborne DASC? Good talking with you Marine!
@@daviddaniken7248 I never did, and since I was a Reservist the only time that my unit ever did A-DASC ops were the 2 weeks in the summer that we did CAX. Even then, I don't recall us doing it all that often, I only did it that once. I know what you mean about it being stifling in that van, we called it a yuck for the shelter's/van's official initials of something like YQ or YUQ something or the other. I remember the inside of the C-130 not being all that comfortable either. But it was definitely an experience, in my time in I got to fly in everything the Corps had that could carry passengers except for the Huey. Speaking of AC, you ever been in the old full sized DASC shelters, the ones that sat on the back of a 5 ton and folded out? That was the best place to be if you were on duty during a CAX in the Stumps. We'd always get a lot of visitors throughout the CAX, ostensibly to get an idea of how the DASC ran or to get an overall picture of the "battle" but most of us thought it was just soak up some of the AC for a bit.
the main thing the electronics upgrades bring is "battlefield connectivity" Soviet/Russian air defense operates as a layered whole, in order for this to work, you need to be able to share target information between all the layers and the PVO commanders. In days long past, this was done by the commanding officers of each endpoint, now it's done much faster with computers...
The exploded 3D axonometric animated illustration of the TANK is super precise. The video here is literally a work of art. It is precise, illustrated and accurate with the information. This is an encyclopedic work.
SIN DUDAS! EL MEJOR SISTEMA ANTIAEREO ATP , SOBRE CADENAS, Y AUN MODERNIZADO ES LETAL, EXPERIENCIA Y FOGUEADO EN COMBATE !, LE SOBRA! CUSNTOS SISTEMAS PUEDEN DECIR LO MISMO. GRANDE, RUSIA!!!
I was in the Army in the early to mid 80s. These were on the flash cards that we had. I remember one of those training us saying that we really didn’t need to be able to identify them. Because we would be dead before we spotted one.
in somalia, we splitted all these four guns into one by one, and we mounted on smaller, faster, quicker and flexible Toyota Landcruisers. they become very effective against armored American light vehicles and their infantry in the EVENT OF BLACK HAWK DOWN 1993. the Americans were both shocked and surprised by this single gun and this tactics, so they retreated after 13 hours of very very intensive fighting with out any progress, mainly because of this gun. besides i have nothing against Americans as long as they are respecting the others. any way this gun suppose to be anti air gun, but we could not challenge the Americans in the air, so we had to wait the ground troops with a russian anti aircraft guns instead, very simple. this gun can reach them long before they reach you and it can penetrate most of their armored vehicles. so split it and mount it on the roof your house or on your 4 wheel drive, it has been tested on the toughest marines in the world and they run away from it believe me.
I read a book written by a former f-16 Pilot. He said there are counter measures you can employ against Surface-to-air missiles. But there isnt much you can do to counter 4 barrels spitting 23mm cannon shells at you!
The Shilka is by far my favorite AAG system. It's simple awesome. Very effective against tactical aircraft and is excellent as an infantry suppressant system. Two thumbs up on his one.
I fell in love with this thing when I was a kid. I always wanted to see one but never did. I got to see a lot of Soviet ground vehicles in the Army as a 19k.
This is really amazing! The 1950's-era Shilka is far more effective and far more successful than the more modern American Sergeant York mobile anti-aircraft gun system that they developed in the 1980s. Good job Russia!
@@gerrycrisostomo6571 Yepp, the Tuguska on steroids. Same guns, new electronics and upgraded missiles, deployed on a variety of platforms. 8X8 truck is the most common, but they have them on the tracked chassis of the Tunguska, the DT-30 ATV for the Arctic without guns, and on ships with 6 barrelled rotary guns (Pantsir-M). When it comes to air defence the Russians lose their sense of humour. 😉
COBRA DARKNISS - I very much doubt it would stand a chance against a recent version of the Apache or Lynx or whatever. It would explode into a fireball .before the helicopter comes into range. Unless it keeps it's radars disabled and the unit camouflaged until it is too late maybe.
@@Hortifox_the_gardener I don't know about the real world, but in DCS they are mostly harmless if you know where they are and can use a stand-off weapon like a Vikhr or Maverick to take them down. But if you don't know where they are they can still give you a surprise.
This is a BEAST of anti-aircraft platform. The U.S. had tried something similar called the “Sergeant York”. It was a pair of 40mm Bofors on a tank chassis designed for anti aircraft use. Unfortunately, I don’t think the idea never got past the prototype stage?
These self propelled anti-aircraft guns are awsome. These gun now have rpg fencing or a scale armor to shield vs ATGM's. These weapons Have been used very effectively in the syrian war used on both sides.
@@flashgordon6670 yeah during army exhibition days soldiers showoff some war equipment to civilians and civilians can drive the weapons platforms and sometimes with soldier instructor can fire them too make a good army civilian relation exercise out of it to attract civilians to join army
My favorite part about this weapon is if there's no planes in the air you can drop it down and shoot everything on the ground with 23 mm now that is Devastation
It is the most feared by the RAF to this day. It actually was ahead of western tech until 2005. Visual tracking, motion tracking, radar tracking all on automated setting with solar recharge cells (photo cells); set parameters and walk away in the year 1965. Those were the most loaded versions in 1965. They were deployed in Vietnam. The range is actually more than this brit redcoat says.
In Afghanistan the Shilka was sometimes used as an ad hoc gun truck to defend convoys. A task it could perform admirably. If the guns were overheated, they would cook off rounds until all the ammo was expended. Therefore, convoy commanders chose to place the Shilka's 1 or 2 klicks in front of or behind the convoy for self protection.
I was a cold war Cav trooper and yes, we were told that the Shilka was a priority target and ground units wouldn't receive air support until identified units were destroyed.
@@RicArmstrong you have just answered your own question.. It is so well known , that why should a video be made about it.. How about the M42 Duster or the M50 Ontos .. lesser known and with a far more interesting history?... the M113 was simply a replacement for the M3 half track..how interesting is the development of a box on tracks?. Now the BMP-1 would be a good candidate ..simply because it broke new ground.
In the bad old days I had the opportunity to sit in a German Roland system - stationary model. Trust me: You got dizzy by the slew rate and pointing the broomstick in approximately the right direction would take a lot of practise. I once asked a chief of staff of the Danish Defence Forces (in the bad old days), why Denmark did not get the Roland system? He answered: "They are very expensive and cost about a squadron of tanks, so will I have more tanks or protect the couple I have?" Question answered. The equivalent German system was the Gepard with anti aircraft guns on a Leopard 1 chassis (did at least offer some protection) and they never used the fancy radarsystem. The mashine cannons were a real pest to hostile infantry though.
The Shilka in Project Reality BF2 is so bloody deadly against basically everything except MBTs. Seriously, the damn thing shreds anything from jets and gunships to IFVs and infantry. If I was fighting in an actual war in the future and saw one of these things I would lose my shit.
You should have talked about it's use against ground targets. This isn't an outdated Soviet system for that role. The Syrian Arab Army are using them today against Jihadists. When the Damascus government retook the city of Ghouta in 2018, they used them in conjunction with tanks. That was fighting in built up areas and the Shilka had the elevation to blast sniper nests out of high rise apartment blocks. Pretty brutal stuff. I also believe that the Shilka has an advantage over "Technicals" or Jihadi Wagons, 4X4 pick-up trucks mounted with similar weapons (a ZU-23-2) . As it has a quad mount and armor protection.
As a Tank Commander during the late 70's to early 80's, this vehicle gave me concern much like I'm sure NATO aircrews were as those rounds would put a hurt even on a tank, if it could hit some lightly armored areas. I DAMNED sure wouldn't want to be downrange in the impact zone of these vehicles. Thanks for the video.
The gas turbine is an Auxiliary power unit for powering the electronics of the radar and the fire control system, which on the majority of the models used an electro-mechanical computer system and thermionic valves . The main engine for driving the thing is a V-6R, 6-cylinder 4-stroke airless-injection water-cooled 20-litre diesel engine. The system was almost useless at night and bad weather if the target employed chaff or active ECM, but if it could see a target with its optical system was it was still quite lethal.
I flew Ah-1Fs during the cold war. This baby got our attention from the get go. Only one minute of continuous fire (6 hours to reload, unmolested). unable to effectively engage anything but ground targets beyond 1.5 km. for more than that they needed radar (which means we'd know exactly where they were before they'd see us. we also had a radar jammer, that was good for about 20 seconds.
It’s a great infantry support vehicle too.
Yes, Syrian army uses it against terrorists for example
Dont they use this 23 mm cannon on technicals in Syria and Iraq during the anti ISIS campaigns? They seemed to chew up other technicals and urban combat support
@@cinjonsmythe6318 they mount ZPU-2
harry guy and you get a free trip to Switzerland, to go on trial for crimes against humanity
@@harryguy76... Ummm, no.... Hæ do I say this? Delete this, PLEASE!
"Old but gold"
-Every Russian weapons specialists
Da, tank is fine tovarisch.
we have a much newer analogue. "Tunguska"
Russians build good things
@@nicholaswallen8147 That aged well
@@Lightning_Mike your right it did there kicking ukraines ass
The Shilka was way ahead of it's time. The old analogue fire control computer was amazingly accurate for the day too. Servo's driving potentiometers to vary the integrators/differentiators etc. They used dual triodes (arranged as a long tailed pair) at one point not even semiconductors.
Thanks Gordon Lawrence
Non-rotary BRRRRT
The Allah express...
The Brrrrrrtank
*BDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD*
Amazing sound of gunshots. Polish army training ground in Ustka. m.ruclips.net/video/HaYCjfvHIsQ/видео.html
Planes: *exists*
Shilka: "So anyway I started blasting"
This is hilarious
Is the plane's career is over?
@@humanbeing9079 Да
i recognise your profile picture lol, good to see F1 fans here
Hilarious 😂
As a Finnish reservist trained in the 80's I can assure you that that the Shilka 4 x 23mm armoured beast was perhaps the most feared Soviet weapon system by the Finnish light infantry units. They where the vechiles to be targeted first by anti-armour weapons.
Researchers: "How will we counter aircraft of the future?"
Shilka: "I will shoot many many boolet."
Actually, you didn’t mention “Afghan” version of ZSU-23-4. While war in Afghanistan soviet troops lacked high fire rate anti-personnel weapon with high elevation to cover from Mujahideen that was ambushing roads and camps. BMP-1 had too low rate of fire and not that high enough elevation to shoot up to the mountains (partially because of that BMP-2 has 30mm gun with high elevation). So soviets removed radar system from “Shilka” and installed additional boxes of munitions, so it increased stocks of munitions up to 4000 rounds. That modification of Shilka was in service during almost all of Afghanistan war. P.S. Sorry for my bad English, I’m Russian. By the way, thanks for your videos, Matt. I’m learning some of what Englishman thinks about Russian military equipment.
да, без афганского варианта немного кино неполное получилось, но всё равно неплохо!
That was new for me. Make the best out of what you have.
👍
ZSU-23-4M2 aka the "Afghan" variant. Re-equipped for the Soviet-Afghan War for mountain combat. The radar system was removed and a night-sight was added. Ammunition increased from 2,000 to 4,000 rounds.
The taliban had one of those pretty much exactly how you mentioned it. I got shot at by it, It was probably one of the most unpleasant 30 seconds of my life.
@@nonyabeeznuss304 ok, uh.. No offense, but _who_ are you and WHAT are you doing?
It's an amazing anti infantry system, light vehicle killer, and urban tank support in Syria.
Tunguska : oh my grandpapa
with a few modern upgrades this cold war titan could be just as deadly today to helicopters and aircraft as it was in the 60s and 70s. A perfect example of "if it isnt broke don't fix it"
The problem is the short range of the cannons vs modern missiles. During Just Cause, the Americans destroyed the 23mm and 14mm cannons firing hellfires from the outside range of the systems. But with drones, cruise missiles and glide bombs being more popular than ever, a autocannon system still has a place in the arsenal.. Imagine a Shilka with a updated antidrone targeting system could has prevented the drone attack on ARAMCO.
@@ricardosoto5770 no one is updating it because 23mm was long ago deemed too small of a caliber. In contrast 30mm shells can be used with both programmator or straight up proximity fuze. Hence new ammo on modernized Tunguska and modern Panzir. Not to mention those two can serve as de facto CIWS nowadays being able to detect and intercept even mortar shells.
As for drones, the problem is distance. 30mm has better reach, but still not enough for a scout that just hangs 10km away. And when you can buy hundreds of them for 200$, shooting them down with missiles that costs hundred times that is not an option. Hence why 57mm is coming back. Meanwhile USA is reintroducing 45mm and 50mm. Because they can go up to 14km of range. And as always effective counter is always a coordinated system which requires all of the above and many more
@@soulsphere9242 my mistake, 40mm and 50mm. Not 45mm.
Bushmaster IV is 40mm version.
50mm version of Bushmaster III is for now called XM913 as its only finished testing. I don't know if it'll be called Bushmaster V or Bushmaster III/50mm.
@@TheArklyte Excellent post. I Agree.. I think Oto Melara has even introduced land based versions of the 76mm naval gun.. agaisnt helos with with AT missiles, 23mm or even 30mm does not cut anymore.. and drones 10km away with the same weapons.
@@ricardosoto5770 The Rooikat is armed with the same gun you've mentioned.
As a 11H during the cold war we we instructed these were a priority target even above the T80.These were a real threat the 23-4
Interesting, I suppose the reasoning was that if you could take out these threats for the air support elements, the air power could help out more effectively with the opposition armor?
@@ryanotte6737 A10 was in action in mid 80s,I think the goal was to protect them,the 23 4 was a real concern as it is a very good system overall.
Yeah. I was in a TOW PLATOON in Baumholder W. Germany from 77-80. CSC 1/13th INFANTRY 8th ID. We were scared shitless by this beast back then. It was our primary target. We were to hunt it down period.
@@BRAVO-du9ed I was stationed near Bremen in 2nd AD fwd ,it was great not much field time as it was too far north...lol
@@paulscountry456 Shit! I lived in the field. Graffenweir, Hoensfeld, Hammelburg, and fighting possitions in Fulda. But I drank a lot of Koch Braus
in the Battalion keller to compensate.
My Granma's old sewing machine - but took steroids. A dozen ton of steroids.
I was in STITCHES watching "Dwanny" stitching up the roadway.
"Shilka" actualy is "sewer" on russian
3400 pills per minute..
Gallon of LSD
Loved the 3d model assembly, it's not only cool, but is great for showing internal layout.
Ah yes the ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" ....the perfect tank for teaching those god damn birds not to crap on your car!
I remember the first time i saw this _Russian Anti-Air Vehicle_ the *Shilka* was from the game 13 year's ago, "World In Conflict" during the very first cutscenes. When couple of Shilka's roll's out from the Disguised Russian Cargo Ships at Seattle Harbour then wreck's havoc in the skies and couple of News Choppers went down instantly due to it's sheer firepower.
Oooh ! Shilka vs CNN News Chopper, I Like, I Like !
Then BTRs come up from the shore and ram the Chevolet Police out of the way and Mi-24D Hinds take off from the ships cargo holds.
We really need WiC 2.
If WiC was have more realistic mechanic, this piece of hell's firepower must be most terryfiyng vehicle in game, in therms of close range or town battles. Why? Cause ewen in Post-Soviet countries (like Russia, for example) where even in small towns (50-200k ppl) most part of buildings have thick stone, brick or concrete walls (thanks for cold climate) it can breach the wall about few seconds, for example brick walls in houses have 0.5m-0.8m thickness. Compare this to murica's small towns, where in most part of houses doors can be more solid than walls.
@@xpavpushka Now this is some legit weapon system.
ruclips.net/video/ZU10b8C9orc/видео.html
I miss that game
The movies were made predominantly in Łeba, Poland. I was a soldier almost three decades ago but I still recognize the place :-)
I just wanted to say the same, eventho i wasnt at army I have been living near Łeba like 20 years ago.
Pozdrawiam! Szyłki są wspaniałe :)
Yah?
What a shithole.
Papaver Somniferum I bet your fucking here in the uk now tho right?
Like every other of your countryman.
Not that I blame you getting out that shithole mate.
Soviet/Russian makes on of the best anti aircraft guns/missiles...
They had to with how the cold war went. The SR 71 also forced their hand
Much better than US
@@iannordin5250 Maybe improve the radar systems though. They seem to keep identifying civilian airliners as military bombers....
@eddie money Yeah thirty years ago. With eighties radar technology. And to my knowledge, it's the only one. Not saying it makes the situation better, but the Russians advertise these new radars as near foolproof (see OP). And an airliner flying low in an exit pattern from the nearby airport is about as obvious as it gets.
@eddie money "And lied about it." Im sorry, but conspiracy theories are not the same as historical record. Try again.
Cruise missiles actually usually fly really low, average 50-60 meters altitude for a tomahawk missile. This is to try to AVOID radar, amongst other things. Not to mention the radar cross section (RCS) of a relatively small cruise missile is much different than that of a passenger plane large enough to carry 170 people.
2:18am I’m literally about to go to sleep and then this pops up
Lol same I guess this was keeping Matt up tonight until he hit the post button
I've just woke up and I saw this , transatlantic brother
you knows popping up when you gay lords wake up? all of you
14:42PM here
4 AM here
An extremely effective spaag system. Extremely effective. And quite deadly in target suppression if needed.
i particularly like the Zsu-23-4M4 variant. because it has 4 Igla launchers as well.
Plane: exists
ZSU-23-4: *ANGRY RUSSIAN NOISES*
I decided to look up the Russian/Soviet 23 mm round. I never realized, just for this ZSU-23 alone that there were over 10 different rounds available for it. There are over 20 different 23mm rounds and half of them are not compatible with the ZSU-23. The things I dig for and learn after watching your videos.
It is also capable to fire against ground targets, of course...
Also, it can be fired without radar tracking, using optics. That gives less warning to its target, but it is, of course, less accurate as well.
Does it have IR guidance ?
@@mattiasdahlstrom2024 no, only radar or optic
Back when I was in the Corps I worked in the Direct Air Support Center where directed air support assets to the ground elements and one of our responsibilities was keeping track of the location of AA threats and the ZSU-23-4 was always a big concern or ours.
0351 anti-tank gunner mid 80's, this was are top priority target.
I was a KC=130 navigator in the Corps in the 80's-90's at times carrying DASC vans. ZSU-23-4 was one of our worst nightmares when doing low level air drops and such. She is one nasty SOB.
@@daviddaniken7248 It's nice to run into another Marine that actually knows what the DASC is. Years ago, I actually got to tag along with our airborne DASC during a CAX. Because of the racetrack course you guys had, I ended up getting air sick and never did A-DASC duty again.
Semper Fi, brother!
@@Riceball01 A DASC mission over 29 Palms, or any desert, can be a rough and bumpy experience. Especially in the summer in a closed van with questionable ventilation and AC capabilities. Sometimes the cargo section of the aircraft could be stifling as well. Just depended what was broken. I have to say that DASC missions were usually some of the more monotonous for us (fly a racetrack pattern at 15,000 ft for 5-6 hours) but it was obvious to us that everyone in the van felt it was good training. Did you guys get flight pay during the months that you did airborne DASC? Good talking with you Marine!
@@daviddaniken7248 I never did, and since I was a Reservist the only time that my unit ever did A-DASC ops were the 2 weeks in the summer that we did CAX. Even then, I don't recall us doing it all that often, I only did it that once.
I know what you mean about it being stifling in that van, we called it a yuck for the shelter's/van's official initials of something like YQ or YUQ something or the other. I remember the inside of the C-130 not being all that comfortable either. But it was definitely an experience, in my time in I got to fly in everything the Corps had that could carry passengers except for the Huey.
Speaking of AC, you ever been in the old full sized DASC shelters, the ones that sat on the back of a 5 ton and folded out? That was the best place to be if you were on duty during a CAX in the Stumps. We'd always get a lot of visitors throughout the CAX, ostensibly to get an idea of how the DASC ran or to get an overall picture of the "battle" but most of us thought it was just soak up some of the AC for a bit.
the main thing the electronics upgrades bring is "battlefield connectivity"
Soviet/Russian air defense operates as a layered whole, in order for this to work, you need to be able to share target information between all the layers and the PVO commanders. In days long past, this was done by the commanding officers of each endpoint, now it's done much faster with computers...
3:50 6 STROKE engine?! While technically those 6 stroke exist, this vehicle seems to use a much more conventional inline 6 cylinder 4 stroke diesel?
I have an Indian friend called Shilpa and live in eternal fear of calling her... well, you can guess.
The exploded 3D axonometric animated illustration of the TANK is super precise. The video here is literally a work of art.
It is precise, illustrated and accurate with the information. This is an encyclopedic work.
We need the ZSU-57-2 NEXT!!!
Thanks Mat. Great animation showing the vehicle's insides and how its constructed
That's a lot of dakka
Ya knau wa's tru dakka iz. Get'em boiz!!!
Its still not enough
SIN DUDAS! EL MEJOR SISTEMA ANTIAEREO ATP , SOBRE CADENAS, Y AUN MODERNIZADO ES LETAL,
EXPERIENCIA Y FOGUEADO EN COMBATE !, LE SOBRA! CUSNTOS SISTEMAS PUEDEN DECIR LO MISMO.
GRANDE, RUSIA!!!
Yes my favorite anti-air on my birthday
Happy birthday
@@rebelkommando6166 thanks
Happy birthday
Happy Birthday 🥳
Happy birthday!!
[War Thunder flashbacks]
Must have been painful flashbacks?
Yes and thunderbolt 2
I'm having flashbacks too.
You got a hole in your left wing!
Die Schilka habe ich auch gefahren 1978 bis1981!!! 👍🇷🇺
Merry Christmas 2019 and Happy New Year 2020! This ZSU-23-4 SHILKA was a Russia masterpiece for low altitude flying objest!
Around 40.000 years later, and only some few modifications in design & caliber, it`s going to be called: A Hydra :) :) :)
I was in the Army in the early to mid 80s. These were on the flash cards that we had.
I remember one of those training us saying that we really didn’t need to be able to identify them. Because we would be dead before we spotted one.
in somalia, we splitted all these four guns into one by one, and we mounted on smaller, faster, quicker and flexible Toyota Landcruisers. they become very effective against armored American light vehicles and their infantry in the EVENT OF BLACK HAWK DOWN 1993. the Americans were both shocked and surprised by this single gun and this tactics, so they retreated after 13 hours of very very intensive fighting with out any progress, mainly because of this gun. besides i have nothing against Americans as long as they are respecting the others. any way this gun suppose to be anti air gun, but we could not challenge the Americans in the air, so we had to wait the ground troops with a russian anti aircraft guns instead, very simple. this gun can reach them long before they reach you and it can penetrate most of their armored vehicles. so split it and mount it on the roof your house or on your 4 wheel drive, it has been tested on the toughest marines in the world and they run away from it believe me.
I appreciate the time and efforts put into this presentation. I also think the graphics are exceptional. Thank you.
I read a book written by a former f-16 Pilot. He said there are counter measures you can employ against Surface-to-air missiles. But there isnt much you can do to counter 4 barrels spitting 23mm cannon shells at you!
The Shilka is by far my favorite AAG system. It's simple awesome. Very effective against tactical aircraft and is excellent as an infantry suppressant system. Two thumbs up on his one.
Reminds me of "inside the hatch" cover by chieftain, refreshing
oh my god the shilka is on fire
@@nerowulfee9210 in Soviet Russia Shilka is not on fire. Fire is on Shilka
Love the "community applied city cammo" version XD
Also, it was nicknamed Stalins sowing machine...
SonsOfLorgar nice name
It DOES sound like a sewing machine 🤣
Anything in Russia is nicknamed Stalin's something
@@TocTeplv Nope, the Moskvitch (that was a car) was named "Revenge of Kruschev".
Stalin died in 1953.
I fell in love with this thing when I was a kid. I always wanted to see one but never did. I got to see a lot of Soviet ground vehicles in the Army as a 19k.
Ah the Russian sewing machine my favorite
I remember slaughtering everyone in arma 2 servers with the shilka, such a beast!
Planes : Exits.
Shilka : *I'm gonna do what's call a pro gamer*
This thing made an impression on me when I played LHX Attack Chopper
6-stroke engine, never heard before, but a quick googling gave me new insight. Thanks for mentioning that! Very good video as always!
Shilka has a 4 stroke 6 cylinder.
This is really amazing! The 1950's-era Shilka is far more effective and far more successful than the more modern American Sergeant York mobile anti-aircraft gun system that they developed in the 1980s. Good job Russia!
Fun fact: by the time the US admitted defeat and cancelled the Sgt. York the 2S6 Tunguska had already been in service for 2 years.
@@imrekalman9044 Now Russia have an even more advanced one, the Pantsir S1 Short Range Air Defense which is a combination of gun and missile system.
@@gerrycrisostomo6571 Yepp, the Tuguska on steroids. Same guns, new electronics and upgraded missiles, deployed on a variety of platforms. 8X8 truck is the most common, but they have them on the tracked chassis of the Tunguska, the DT-30 ATV for the Arctic without guns, and on ships with 6 barrelled rotary guns (Pantsir-M).
When it comes to air defence the Russians lose their sense of humour. 😉
More precisely , the USSR.
What a beast....
Loved it.
Thank you Matsimus
Good vehicle, just a bit dated. Very good when it first came out.
Still killing Jihadists today.
Not as effective against jets as it used to be but you can bet your ass it will murder any helicopter that feels a bit too braveS
COBRA DARKNISS - I very much doubt it would stand a chance against a recent version of the Apache or Lynx or whatever. It would explode into a fireball .before the helicopter comes into range. Unless it keeps it's radars disabled and the unit camouflaged until it is too late maybe.
Still is a beast today
@@Hortifox_the_gardener I don't know about the real world, but in DCS they are mostly harmless if you know where they are and can use a stand-off weapon like a Vikhr or Maverick to take them down. But if you don't know where they are they can still give you a surprise.
This is a BEAST of anti-aircraft platform. The U.S. had tried something similar called the “Sergeant York”. It was a pair of 40mm Bofors on a tank chassis designed for anti aircraft use. Unfortunately, I don’t think the idea never got past the prototype stage?
The US never has cared too much for air defenses, unlike the Soviets who sufferend a lot in hand of the Germans, so they invest a lot in air defenses.
These self propelled anti-aircraft guns are awsome. These gun now have rpg fencing or a scale armor to shield vs ATGM's. These weapons Have been used very effectively in the syrian war used on both sides.
Matsimus is motivating me to join the military which is having all sought of Russian equipment in it
I drove a real shilka as a child in the Indian Army because my father is an officer.
@@flashgordon6670 lol
@@flashgordon6670 yeah during army exhibition days soldiers showoff some war equipment to civilians and civilians can drive the weapons platforms and sometimes with soldier instructor can fire them too make a good army civilian relation exercise out of it to attract civilians to join army
Oh, nice @Matsimus. That ZSU-23-4 at the beggining in that museum. This was filmed in Polish Army Military Technology Museum in Warsaw. :)
Thats exactly what i wanted to say until i saw your comment. Also that sea target shooting was filmed on proving grounds near Łeba.
Pozdrawiam!
My favorite part about this weapon is if there's no planes in the air you can drop it down and shoot everything on the ground with 23 mm now that is Devastation
Matt. I love the intro animation. Fantastic, mate!
It is the most feared by the RAF to this day.
It actually was ahead of western tech until 2005. Visual tracking, motion tracking, radar tracking all on automated setting with solar recharge cells (photo cells); set parameters and walk away in the year 1965. Those were the most loaded versions in 1965. They were deployed in Vietnam.
The range is actually more than this brit redcoat says.
In Afghanistan the Shilka was sometimes used as an ad hoc gun truck to defend convoys. A task it could perform admirably. If the guns were overheated, they would cook off rounds until all the ammo was expended. Therefore, convoy commanders chose to place the Shilka's 1 or 2 klicks in front of or behind the convoy for self protection.
That exploded assembly graphic was pleasantly hypnotic. (5)
I LOVE this vehicle!!!!
Superb presentation. Keep it coming. God Speed and Good Luck.
So glad you did a video on this monster of a AAA platform.
Keep it up 👍
Nice day at the beach, don't forget your shilka protection. Spf 1000
Interesting "urban camouflage" with all that scribbling on one of them. 😉
You have the best intro out of anyone on the internet, of the Trojan warrior.
I always thought it was the lone Roman survivor of Cannae.
4:13 - When Dimitri brings Grenades for Fishing and you need to one up him properly.
I love russian armor and anti air weapons
I was a cold war Cav trooper and yes, we were told that the Shilka was a priority target and ground units wouldn't receive air support until identified units were destroyed.
Anyone who played Jane's Longbow 2 will remember these.
I liked the assembling graphic want to see more of that kind in your videos
Well done , and also a nasty ground support weapon
Another awsome video.
Can I recommend you doing a vid on the M113 Armored Personnel Carrier? A lot of great history and variants on the M113 👍
Maybe a bit too much history to cover. It'll be grest if he covers some specific variants tho
oh yes. please.. i had driving license on the german M113 NDV 2 last month with his 11l 300hp V6 benz engine and ZF transmission
The m113 has been done to death .. If you don't know it's history mow..then you never will .. also it's boring as fook .nothing new
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If it has such a rich history, how can it be boring?
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@@RicArmstrong you have just answered your own question.. It is so well known , that why should a video be made about it.. How about the M42 Duster or the M50 Ontos .. lesser known and with a far more interesting history?... the M113 was simply a replacement for the M3 half track..how interesting is the development of a box on tracks?. Now the BMP-1 would be a good candidate ..simply because it broke new ground.
In the bad old days I had the opportunity to sit in a German Roland system - stationary model. Trust me: You got dizzy by the slew rate and pointing the broomstick in approximately the right direction would take a lot of practise.
I once asked a chief of staff of the Danish Defence Forces (in the bad old days), why Denmark did not get the Roland system? He answered: "They are very expensive and cost about a squadron of tanks, so will I have more tanks or protect the couple I have?" Question answered.
The equivalent German system was the Gepard with anti aircraft guns on a Leopard 1 chassis (did at least offer some protection) and they never used the fancy radarsystem. The mashine cannons were a real pest to hostile infantry though.
Love your vids number 1 fan from the philippines
Was my favorite tank in "Operation Flash Point:Cold War Crisis" game when i was a child. Now i realize this is actually an Anti-Aircraft :)
Happy new year to Shilkas all over the world
That War Thunder footage tho. I really like it, makes for good background.
oh shit...this shilka is very intimidating in operation flashpoint game by codemaster....great anti aircraft tank
The Shilka in Project Reality BF2 is so bloody deadly against basically everything except MBTs. Seriously, the damn thing shreds anything from jets and gunships to IFVs and infantry. If I was fighting in an actual war in the future and saw one of these things I would lose my shit.
When I played operation flashpoint Cold War crisis as a kid this thing always scared the hell out of me when I’d transport troops with a Blackhawk
Me too. I always hated those whenever I encountered them. At least only one LAW/RPG takes care of them.
my favourite military equipment.thanks
Saw this one couple of times shooting drones with explosive rounds.
It still does its job well.
Next you should analyse M53/59 Praga AA system, twin 30 mm auto cannons. Absolutely brutal as an infantry support vehicle.
You should have talked about it's use against ground targets. This isn't an outdated Soviet system for that role. The Syrian Arab Army are using them today against Jihadists. When the Damascus government retook the city of Ghouta in 2018, they used them in conjunction with tanks. That was fighting in built up areas and the Shilka had the elevation to blast sniper nests out of high rise apartment blocks.
Pretty brutal stuff.
I also believe that the Shilka has an advantage over "Technicals" or Jihadi Wagons, 4X4 pick-up trucks mounted with similar weapons (a ZU-23-2) . As it has a quad mount and armor protection.
Jake Dee quite true
As a Tank Commander during the late 70's to early 80's, this vehicle gave me concern much like I'm sure NATO aircrews were as those rounds would put a hurt even on a tank, if it could hit some lightly armored areas. I DAMNED sure wouldn't want to be downrange in the impact zone of these vehicles.
Thanks for the video.
"Da."
A Russian, probably.
YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE 23mms go pew pew
USSR: "observe the x4"
This is everything that the M247 Sergeant York wish it can do
Modern Day Wirbelwind,
Change my mind.
Yes it is.
I thought the wirblwind did not work?
The gas turbine is an Auxiliary power unit for powering the electronics of the radar and the fire control system, which on the majority of the models used an electro-mechanical computer system and thermionic valves . The main engine for driving the thing is a V-6R, 6-cylinder 4-stroke airless-injection water-cooled 20-litre diesel engine. The system was almost useless at night and bad weather if the target employed chaff or active ECM, but if it could see a target with its optical system was it was still quite lethal.
Best vehicle to move around on these cold zombie apocalypse afternoons!
Maximus: so I'm trying to get the funds to buy a tracked vehicle
Me: yay, it turns out I'm not alone, this means I'm not a weirdo
who needs a girlfriend when you have ZSU-23-4 Shilka anti aircraft combat vehicle
i prefer the girlfriend over that soviet rusted tank
Damian Rivoli foolish of you young man
I flew Ah-1Fs during the cold war. This baby got our attention from the get go. Only one minute of continuous fire (6 hours to reload, unmolested). unable to effectively engage anything but ground targets beyond 1.5 km. for more than that they needed radar (which means we'd know exactly where they were before they'd see us. we also had a radar jammer, that was good for about 20 seconds.
"Where is Romanov with those Shilkas?!"