You forgot to mention the most important part of the satchel charge: You can get 3 of them a day from ED-E after passing a 65 skill explosives speech check, for free.
A fun way to use C4 is for stealth kills - as long as you have enough Sneak to reliably reverse-pickpocket one, you can go somewhere else to detonate it. The high damage makes it useful for taking out certain NPCs without losing faction rep, or if you're unable to kill them in one hit with your normal weapons.
I mean they don't even get mad if you just drop it at their feet. So long as you are hidden when you detonate them its a sneak kill. Same with the time bomb, but you need to be quick about finding a hiding spot.
I never realized how much fun the explosives were until I made my Chinese Infiltrator character and spec'd into them. Coupled with stealth made for a great combination. I'll never forget my final encounter with Ulysses. I placed explosives all over the room, dealt with him and then just stood there and waited as all of the marked men just got destroyed by the traps I had set up. Really the time bombs are only good if you are trying to assassinate someone like Kimball or Caesar and need to do it without C4.
Been waiting for this one. 👏🏼 As an aficionado of underused NV weaponry, I can confirm time bombs are pretty much only useful on a sneak build. But they can be pretty fun to start off combat with a bang and take out the big threat at the same time. High yield time bombs are great though. Pop a stealthboy and drop two in a Deathclaw nest for best results.
4:25 The timebomb sounds like something better used for reverse pickpocketing enemies, rather than use it as some weird timed handgrenade or delayed landmine.
Timebombs is made for sneak build. For example, you can use it in deathclaws cave and escape before it blows up, super useful with stealh boi against strong enemies. C4 is useful for sneak also. You can pickpocket it and detonate from big distance without getting a reputation penalty.
Time bombs are really good with turbo or implant grx. You can place a bunch of them in an area and the turbo will make it harder for enemies to escape the blast radius
c4 is also PERFECT for stealth mass-murder. If you can put c4 in pockets of few npc you can later destroy them in one shot. That was pretty fun when i during mr House run destroyed BS bunker. But before of that i put c4 in every soldier and then when they all tried to kill me i just press the detonautor. Thats was epic
@@Honor_and_Steel no they never despawn, dont worry. Items usually never despawn in new vegas in general, only under specific circumstances like when 3 ingame days passed and you sold an item to a vendotron or a merchant that item will despawn, but besides that items never despawn.
Time bombs can actually be bought sometimes at: -Quartermaster Bardon in Hoover Dam -Mick & Ralph's in Freeside -Joshua Graham in Zion Canyon -Contreras in Camp MacCarran -great khan armory -Also those can be found on a bed in legion safe house so if anyone friendly to the legion there's that. This are the locations listed in the wiki but it's so rare that it's better to make them than to buy them. I think I only found time bombs sold by vendors twice. One time in Mick & Ralph's and another in Camp MacCarran.
I used time bombs to kill a blind death claw at level 7, placed one and primed it with a frag mine so they would both detonate when it got near, repeated a few times after its legs were crippled
You an also use some thrown explosives like Dynamite as a placed explosive by simply dropping it out of your inventory and shooting it as an enemy passes it
I think timed explosives go off if you shoot them, really good for deathclaws early on if you're running an explosive build. Throw, alert the dclaw, backup, shoot. Good at crippling it's legs with the high damage.
How I use Timebombs. 0) Scout area if possible 1) Acquire ordinance AND taget 2) Deploy ordinance near target 3) Flee like NCR tax collectors are after you 4) Find adequate hiding spot and attain [HIDDEN] status 5) Await detonation, Profit
Also something worth noting about the demolition charge is that it can be bought with sierra madre chips so you can get an unlimited amount of them from vending machines
Ohohoho, I HATED satchel charges in _Lonesome Road!_ I usually play on lower difficulties because I hate bullet sponge enemies and I love just dicking around with all sorts of guns, and those things jacked up my legs every time I so much as looked upon them.
Demolition charges have the benefit of being buyable at the vending machines, and if you have that voucher you essentially have an unlimited supply of mines
put on faction armor. walk into opposing faction area and plant a bunch of c4. Walk away and pull out the detonator. battle won as soon as you push the button
One way I was able to make use of C4 more effectively when I don't have access to a detonator was to use 'em in combination with powder charges or frag mines, especially against high health enemies like deathclaws or rad scorpions. You can also use time bombs but it's trickier to use.
I've found the best use of high yield time bombs is to use them to just get rid of inconvenient non hostile npcs guarding something. Drop one, sneak away, poof, they mysteriously disappear by the time I come back like magic.
Time bombs are best for the Crackerjack Timing challenge. Travel to Callville Bay, bringing all the sneak bonuses you can Activate stealth boy, and other items sneak over to that cazador-filled boat hangar, preferably through that side window/doorway do not bump into cazadors, and place time bomb get out, and wait for boom 4-5 cazadors should be dead now, without you having to draw a gun.
time bomb is the equivalent of come over here and check out this dead body at the start of freeside , just hope whoever you trap with a time bomb doesn’t end up being a deathclaw hunter
I live these list but maaaaan my opinion of the High yield time bomb is much different than yours it's a awesome ROOM CLEARING weapon especially if you have a explosive build. Maximum hilarity is this weapons bread and butter. Thanks for the content my guy!
At this point in my relationship with NV, I pretty much use weapons on the basis of novelty as well. High yield time bombs are pretty fun to play around with, so I like them a lot.
my main way of using most mines is how i use c4 most of the time. I place them unarmed, bait enemies i know have spawned or where they spawn, drag them to my wile e coyote trap and shoot it, always fun seeing them fly and sometimes seeing myself fly cause i used like 8 c4
Bro tbh the timer bomb (high version) is just massive dmg on early game (lvl 6), the actual way to use it is just setting a normal mine next to it, it will trigger both when anyone step near by them i usally clean quarry on lvl 8 with those mfs, just correct way to use it and go all way up to tier S
Honestly in video games I always considered mines as a sort of for fun weapon where it wasn't really a practical explosive like the grenade that you can just chuck and that seems to compliment your guns better. Although while playing fallout 4 I decided to actually try using my mins one time while I was out and about and found they were kinda decent when I had a little patience. So knowing how many explosives NV has I think I might just have to try a proper explosive run next time I reinstall the game and gives the mines a little more love.
I’m pretty sure the idea of the time bomb is to shoot the explosive once you drop it or wait for whatever it’s running toward you. It’s pretty good if you go with that. Mind you it’s still not as good as the other explosives as you can drop and forget.
I’m sure you got this in your ”to do list”, but I do wonder if you are doing any melee weapons list? Awesome content by the way. Haven’t played FNV for a while and this got me to play it again! 😊
You can find a time bomb or two in the Legion safehouse and I think that's it. One of the most fun I had was using a stealth boy to put a C4 in all the Legion pockets in Nelson and then climbing up to that top tower in the West of the town and pulled the trigger. The bodies went well over my head all at once and rained down.
You’re wrong about the timebomb. The high yield timebomb, while not really intended for combat has insane damage and explosion range. You can use it to basically clear entire large rooms safely(because it gives you the time to run away).
I feel like time bomb is only decent for placing in someone’s inventory when pickpocketing as it would give you plenty of time to get clear of the blast vs other placed explosives
pretty sure other explosives can trigger the time bomb, cant remember when was the last time i used them but i remember doing the cazador gun runners challenge with that combo
I don't think it's fair to rank the time-bombs as D-tier based on their timers. These are, after all, 'Placed Explosives.' Their role isn't direct combat, they're traps. Which, keeping that in mind, makes these both cheap, and HIGH damage. Even if the timer makes it a bit odd. Still, a tiny bit of sneak and these become DEADLY.
I think the time bomb has the benefit of not putting enemies in aggro or causing the player to lose faction reputation if someone is killed by it. I could be wrong though since I've never bothered to use it
Time Bomb is definitely screwed over by the fact that this is a video ranking these in combat, when really what they're useful for is setting it next to an NPC who pissed you off and then leaving town before anyone knows what's happening.
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You forgot to mention the most important part of the satchel charge: You can get 3 of them a day from ED-E after passing a 65 skill explosives speech check, for free.
Yeah that is a nice bonus.
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A fun way to use C4 is for stealth kills - as long as you have enough Sneak to reliably reverse-pickpocket one, you can go somewhere else to detonate it. The high damage makes it useful for taking out certain NPCs without losing faction rep, or if you're unable to kill them in one hit with your normal weapons.
Isn't the game code in a way thay its no matter what the pickpoctet explosive is, it insta kill?
@@komiks42 I'll be real, did not know that. C4 is still good for it I guess, since you can do it from a distance.
@@cliffwood7386 you can kill literally any npc by reverse-pocketing them a regular dynamite,that's how i killed ncr rangers
I mean they don't even get mad if you just drop it at their feet. So long as you are hidden when you detonate them its a sneak kill. Same with the time bomb, but you need to be quick about finding a hiding spot.
Yeah that is a very fun use for it!
In Dead Money, you can get the vending machine code for the demolition charge from the computer terminal in the service route in Puesta del Sol.
Yes that is true, but most people usually go for the weapon repair kits after Dead Money.
I don't know if this is a bug, but for me the demolition charges turn into land mines when used.
Something worth noting about all mines is that unlike grenades you can throw multiple in a pile so damage doesn’t matter quite as much
That is very true.
Love that you included the clip of the fat mine killing your foes and yourself.
Yeah it happened a few more times, that one just had the best ragdoll.
I never realized how much fun the explosives were until I made my Chinese Infiltrator character and spec'd into them. Coupled with stealth made for a great combination. I'll never forget my final encounter with Ulysses. I placed explosives all over the room, dealt with him and then just stood there and waited as all of the marked men just got destroyed by the traps I had set up. Really the time bombs are only good if you are trying to assassinate someone like Kimball or Caesar and need to do it without C4.
Satchel charges are why I prefer to get the light step perk before I enter Lonesome Road. They are everywhere in the Divide and will fuck you up.
That is a fair statement they are very scary.
True knowing that satchel charges I think have the shortest fuse time out of all of the mines.
Tin Grenades are really fun, and any mod that gives them to Raiders and Powder Gangers as their hand-held grenades really helps the game.
Been waiting for this one. 👏🏼
As an aficionado of underused NV weaponry, I can confirm time bombs are pretty much only useful on a sneak build. But they can be pretty fun to start off combat with a bang and take out the big threat at the same time. High yield time bombs are great though. Pop a stealthboy and drop two in a Deathclaw nest for best results.
Awesome, glad that you like to use the more unusual ones.
Can't you just shoot the time bomb to make it explode?
Yeah
I thought it was for reverse pick pocketing.
@@cultofcringthulhu fuck I need to try that now, I don't know why I haven't thought of that
You can also place them near frag mines or c4 charges
Use it in callville bay with a stealth boy for crackerjack timing
C-4 also has the advantage that you can reverse-pickpocket it onto enemies and blow them up all at once with the detonator.
4:25 The timebomb sounds like something better used for reverse pickpocketing enemies, rather than use it as some weird timed handgrenade or delayed landmine.
Timebombs is made for sneak build. For example, you can use it in deathclaws cave and escape before it blows up, super useful with stealh boi against strong enemies. C4 is useful for sneak also. You can pickpocket it and detonate from big distance without getting a reputation penalty.
Time bombs are really good with turbo or implant grx. You can place a bunch of them in an area and the turbo will make it harder for enemies to escape the blast radius
c4 is also PERFECT for stealth mass-murder. If you can put c4 in pockets of few npc you can later destroy them in one shot. That was pretty fun when i during mr House run destroyed BS bunker. But before of that i put c4 in every soldier and then when they all tried to kill me i just press the detonautor. Thats was epic
A question, and depending on the answer, an idea. How far away can you be and detonate C4 for stealth kills?
Secondary question, if you reverse pickpocket it into an NPC inventory, does it ever despawn out of their inventory?
@@Honor_and_Steel no they never despawn, dont worry. Items usually never despawn in new vegas in general, only under specific circumstances like when 3 ingame days passed and you sold an item to a vendotron or a merchant that item will despawn, but besides that items never despawn.
Time bombs can actually be bought sometimes at:
-Quartermaster Bardon in Hoover Dam
-Mick & Ralph's in Freeside
-Joshua Graham in Zion Canyon
-Contreras in Camp MacCarran
-great khan armory
-Also those can be found on a bed in legion safe house so if anyone friendly to the legion there's that.
This are the locations listed in the wiki but it's so rare that it's better to make them than to buy them. I think I only found time bombs sold by vendors twice. One time in Mick & Ralph's and another in Camp MacCarran.
I used time bombs to kill a blind death claw at level 7, placed one and primed it with a frag mine so they would both detonate when it got near, repeated a few times after its legs were crippled
Love your NV content man, keep up the amazing work ❤
Thanks, glad that you enjoy the videos!
time bombs are for sneaking around inside a building or other tight space. Drop it in a room then leave it.
Time bombs are for initiating combat with a non-hostile NPC. Drop one at Elder McNamara's feet and use the time to get to a better spot.
You an also use some thrown explosives like Dynamite as a placed explosive by simply dropping it out of your inventory and shooting it as an enemy passes it
I think timed explosives go off if you shoot them, really good for deathclaws early on if you're running an explosive build.
Throw, alert the dclaw, backup, shoot. Good at crippling it's legs with the high damage.
How I use Timebombs.
0) Scout area if possible
1) Acquire ordinance AND taget
2) Deploy ordinance near target
3) Flee like NCR tax collectors are after you
4) Find adequate hiding spot and attain [HIDDEN] status
5) Await detonation, Profit
Fat mines are my favorite placed explosives, glad they got a spolight. They were my Ace in the hole clearing out Dead Wind Cavern early on.
Also something worth noting about the demolition charge is that it can be bought with sierra madre chips so you can get an unlimited amount of them from vending machines
Turbo + mines = a lot of fun.
I need to try that now lol
lol I only use the time bomb for reverse pick pocket, it’s funny to watch them run around before inevitably blowing up
That is a great way to use them.
i was dying at 13:33 i love the ragdolls in new vegas
Ohohoho, I HATED satchel charges in _Lonesome Road!_ I usually play on lower difficulties because I hate bullet sponge enemies and I love just dicking around with all sorts of guns, and those things jacked up my legs every time I so much as looked upon them.
You can find 2 time bombs in the Caesar’s legion safe house
Demolition charges have the benefit of being buyable at the vending machines, and if you have that voucher you essentially have an unlimited supply of mines
You could technically place a few time bombs, and shoot them with a firearm to make them chain explode all at once.
put on faction armor. walk into opposing faction area and plant a bunch of c4. Walk away and pull out the detonator. battle won as soon as you push the button
One way I was able to make use of C4 more effectively when I don't have access to a detonator was to use 'em in combination with powder charges or frag mines, especially against high health enemies like deathclaws or rad scorpions.
You can also use time bombs but it's trickier to use.
I killed Rawr with a big ass pile of C4. Blew my self up the first try. But it was worth it.
I've found the best use of high yield time bombs is to use them to just get rid of inconvenient non hostile npcs guarding something. Drop one, sneak away, poof, they mysteriously disappear by the time I come back like magic.
Actually, all grenades have one issue: you can't hold them charged in a hand for a while.
Simple game mechanic
Time bombs are best for the Crackerjack Timing challenge.
Travel to Callville Bay, bringing all the sneak bonuses you can
Activate stealth boy, and other items
sneak over to that cazador-filled boat hangar, preferably through that side window/doorway
do not bump into cazadors, and place time bomb
get out, and wait for boom
4-5 cazadors should be dead now, without you having to draw a gun.
Yeah that is a good way to get that challenge completed!
Demolition charges are better than that because you can get them with sierra madre chips
good tier list
time bomb is the equivalent of come over here and check out this dead body at the start of freeside , just hope whoever you trap with a time bomb doesn’t end up being a deathclaw hunter
Time bombs are used for one mission and for Reverse Pickpocketing.
the demo charge is good because you can get an obscene amount of them for chips.
I live these list but maaaaan my opinion of the High yield time bomb is much different than yours it's a awesome ROOM CLEARING weapon especially if you have a explosive build. Maximum hilarity is this weapons bread and butter. Thanks for the content my guy!
At this point in my relationship with NV, I pretty much use weapons on the basis of novelty as well. High yield time bombs are pretty fun to play around with, so I like them a lot.
my main way of using most mines is how i use c4 most of the time. I place them unarmed, bait enemies i know have spawned or where they spawn, drag them to my wile e coyote trap and shoot it, always fun seeing them fly and sometimes seeing myself fly cause i used like 8 c4
Bro tbh the timer bomb (high version) is just massive dmg on early game (lvl 6), the actual way to use it is just setting a normal mine next to it, it will trigger both when anyone step near by them i usally clean quarry on lvl 8 with those mfs, just correct way to use it and go all way up to tier S
Fragmines and Deathclaws are best friends
The timebomb seems very useful for reverse pickpocketing
Just dropping a high yield bomb into your pockets and 15 seconds later you're all across the walls. Sounds like a fun stealth run.
Honestly in video games I always considered mines as a sort of for fun weapon where it wasn't really a practical explosive like the grenade that you can just chuck and that seems to compliment your guns better. Although while playing fallout 4 I decided to actually try using my mins one time while I was out and about and found they were kinda decent when I had a little patience. So knowing how many explosives NV has I think I might just have to try a proper explosive run next time I reinstall the game and gives the mines a little more love.
Tip: grenades/thrown for ranged enemies, and mines/placed for creatures and melee enemies also pick up thump thump
@@TheByrdman1999 Oh dont worry, I intend to!
Also, don't forget that you can shoot some explosives to detonate them. It's not handy all the time, but sometimes is all it takes.
@@PhoenicopterusR Thanks for the heads up, honestly never bothered to try that anytime I played previously.
Watch him do ammo type tier list
I’m pretty sure the idea of the time bomb is to shoot the explosive once you drop it or wait for whatever it’s running toward you.
It’s pretty good if you go with that. Mind you it’s still not as good as the other explosives as you can drop and forget.
I can see the Time Bombs being used in Stealth or Reverse Pickpocketing. _But I haven't tried that, I'm in your camp._
Better just reverse pickpocket a dynamite. Any evolution is insta kill anyway why waste extra items
I’m sure you got this in your ”to do list”, but I do wonder if you are doing any melee weapons list? Awesome content by the way. Haven’t played FNV for a while and this got me to play it again! 😊
You can find a time bomb or two in the Legion safehouse and I think that's it.
One of the most fun I had was using a stealth boy to put a C4 in all the Legion pockets in Nelson and then climbing up to that top tower in the West of the town and pulled the trigger. The bodies went well over my head all at once and rained down.
Main thing with the time-bomb seems to be for the Vault mission with the explosive gas. Or being a menace to people around you.
You’re wrong about the timebomb. The high yield timebomb, while not really intended for combat has insane damage and explosion range. You can use it to basically clear entire large rooms safely(because it gives you the time to run away).
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Do an S teir weapon teir list
Nice!
Will there be a melee tier list?
Fun fact about c4, drop a powder charge in it and it becomes a big landmine
I love mines, seeing my enemy walk into them and splatter into millions of pieces always put a smile in my face 🙃
U can find time bombs in legion safehouse
Awesome!
@@ReapeeRon that is only place to get them without crafting or buying
I feel like time bomb is only decent for placing in someone’s inventory when pickpocketing as it would give you plenty of time to get clear of the blast vs other placed explosives
pretty sure other explosives can trigger the time bomb, cant remember when was the last time i used them but i remember doing the cazador gun runners challenge with that combo
reverse pickpocket c4 is the funniest strategy
One of my favorite things to do in any game ever
Been waiting for this one
Can you do your favorite mods in a list or showcase?
You should do a Fallout 3 tier list it would do well man 👍
I don't think it's fair to rank the time-bombs as D-tier based on their timers. These are, after all, 'Placed Explosives.' Their role isn't direct combat, they're traps.
Which, keeping that in mind, makes these both cheap, and HIGH damage. Even if the timer makes it a bit odd. Still, a tiny bit of sneak and these become DEADLY.
Time bomb and TimeBomb High Yield exist for reverse-pickpocketing.
Time Bomb can be an A tier, but in veeeery specific circumstances, tho they're not worth going extra mile to craft them
I think the time bomb has the benefit of not putting enemies in aggro or causing the player to lose faction reputation if someone is killed by it. I could be wrong though since I've never bothered to use it
That might work, but it might still count as -rep to the faction anyway.
If your sneak is high enough you can place grenades or mines on people
Time bombs are found in the legion warehouse only place I’ve seen them. Only 2 of them
I think the timed bombs would be easier if you could reverse pick pocket them into people like you can with grenades
Time Bomb is definitely screwed over by the fact that this is a video ranking these in combat, when really what they're useful for is setting it next to an NPC who pissed you off and then leaving town before anyone knows what's happening.
2 time bombs can be found in legion safehouse
That is true.
Fully upgraded varmint rifle, 22 pistol and explosives is my favorite play stile. Put yourself into position and stir some 💩.
you can find 2 timed bombs in the legion safe house
I only use the timebomb when I have a mod that lets you open locks with explosives, or reverse pickpocketing. Good for roleplay, bad for gameplay.
cool this is the last of explosives. So the next one will be about the armor.
Thank you!
There is a time bomb in the legion safe house
Mad bomber is a perk I get no matter what build I am using
13:58 cool guys don't look at explosions
MaN these videos make me want to play new vegas again. Wait i already am
Fact: somehow, Satchel Charges are *easier* to make than Bottlecap Mines.
Awesome!
Funny is that you can sneak the fatmines into Casinos 😂
hell yeah new fallout nv tier video time to spark lol
Awesome!
What's the background music?
I i combo frag mines and c4 befause the mine will set of the c4.
this guy making content for a game launched 13 years ago wow
New phone,
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SS tier…..my asshole after eating Taco Bell or Indian food 😰
Today we are doing war crimes💣
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Placed explosives? Lol its so random
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