How To Insulate the floor In a Self Build DIY OVERLAND CAMPER VAN / VAN LIFE UK

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024

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  • @TheAndrew363
    @TheAndrew363 4 года назад +1

    i almost couldn't watch you cutting that polystyrene , the blade when cutting it makes my teeth clinch and sends shivers up my spine . so you guessed right if you said i didn't use it . good to see your starting the base build

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you and yes I get what you are saying lol 👍🤓👍

  • @jonesdecorators
    @jonesdecorators 4 года назад +2

    Looking back over these videos are so useful now I finally have a van 😊👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you that’s really appreciated good luck with your build and thank you for your support

  • @bribglbiggles7925
    @bribglbiggles7925 4 года назад +1

    I’m impressed you have a good place to park your bike.

  • @VanlifeHQ
    @VanlifeHQ 4 года назад +7

    Did I see a crack in the back of your van buddy lol grate video looking forward to next

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Haha 😂 thanks for your encouragement 😂😂🤓👍

    • @dantheman321
      @dantheman321 4 года назад +1

      Looked like a separate bike rack 😂 sorry Mel couldn't resist, looking forward to this build buddy👍

  • @sasmicky71
    @sasmicky71 Год назад

    Hi Mel thanks for the video I'm just starting my sprinter project. Great job thanks

  • @SooperSkoots
    @SooperSkoots 4 года назад +1

    Mel i have done my floor more or less the same but you made it look so much easier well done mate...

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you and good luck with the rest of your build thanks for watching 👍🤓👍

    • @SooperSkoots
      @SooperSkoots 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld I watch all your videos but i don't normally comment i all ways give the thumbs up, i have had my van nearly two years and i'm struggling for time to be honest but you and people like you inspire me along, i'm doing some work next week on the van thanks again Mel.....

  • @gardenweld
    @gardenweld 4 года назад +1

    Hi Mel, Good job coming along nicely. look forward to your next video 👍🏻🚐😀

  • @ourfrugallife
    @ourfrugallife 3 года назад

    Love the videos. Just started converting my vivaro a bit at a time. Have slept in it for work over the years across the front seats.
    Put a slide out bed in the back a couple of weeks ago along with a case of beer and we headed off to Dorset for 3 nights. Best break we have ever had. I will try to watch some more tonight as I need to get a floor in and insulation.

  • @vasel208
    @vasel208 4 года назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍👍 Excellent. Was having a bad day, but you managed to make me laugh with your cracking work @ 7:56. 😆

  • @gkuk
    @gkuk 4 года назад +1

    Hi Mel, All good. Keep smiling 👍

  • @urbexphotographer
    @urbexphotographer 4 года назад +2

    Another great vid Mel! Every week I look forward to you and this project 😀❤️

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Thanks mate really appreciate your support and encouragement 👍🤓👍

  • @StepvanDan
    @StepvanDan 4 года назад +1

    Nice Job Mel! I was floored by this ,but warmed right up to it ,lol sorry nice work ,hugs from MN

  • @ashy1423
    @ashy1423 4 года назад +1

    Hi Mel, good hints and tips 👍
    Stay well.
    Ash 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @ukbeeps
    @ukbeeps 4 года назад +1

    You crack me up sometimes Mel, Enjoying the build 👍

  • @travelingchalksworld5138
    @travelingchalksworld5138 4 года назад +1

    Well done chap, good job Chalky recommends 🚐☕️☕️👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @frenchysvanlife
    @frenchysvanlife 4 года назад +4

    Good to see your cracking on bud! Looking good!

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thanks 😂🤓👍

    • @lincolnamari3486
      @lincolnamari3486 3 года назад

      i know I'm quite off topic but does anybody know of a good place to stream newly released series online ?

    • @jessegianni3236
      @jessegianni3236 3 года назад

      @Lincoln Amari i would suggest FlixZone. Just google for it :)

  • @catdaddy2899
    @catdaddy2899 4 года назад +1

    Great video Mel.. Thanks for sharing 🍺😎👌🍺

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you and thanks for positive feedback really appreciated 🤓👍

  • @woolleycodwanderers4833
    @woolleycodwanderers4833 4 года назад +1

    Nice one Mel 👍 some very good tips there 😊 ... ❤️👵🏼🐾🐾🤠

  • @linz_in_NZ
    @linz_in_NZ 4 года назад +1

    That floor looked in very good nick. My Sprinter has that polystyrene in the ceiling - came like that - there is a ply layer with a thick velour over it, apart from where the roof vent used to be - there is a metal plate riveted & sikkaflexed to the van roof - too hot to touch on a sunny day, but the ceiling never gets very warm, so it obviously makes a huge difference - should keep your floor much warmer. I wonder if those deeper channels are for that tracking? Mine has that in - think someone called it Unwins track - was used to fasten the stretchers and seats in when it was an Ambulance.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you Linz sounds like your van is ready great 👍 🤓👍

  • @cam-bo11
    @cam-bo11 4 года назад +1

    Smart install, Mel! You make it all look so simple.

  • @catvando3209
    @catvando3209 4 года назад +1

    Nice one Mel, won't be long until you get to camp out with it.😉😁

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Cheers I’m doing it as quick as I can so I can getaway 👍🤓👍

  • @marklawrence64
    @marklawrence64 4 года назад +1

    Great channel Mel.....very interesting build from scratch, warts an all. 👍🏽

  • @Drew_Eden
    @Drew_Eden 4 года назад +1

    Nice job Mel.

  • @patrickjobling8676
    @patrickjobling8676 4 года назад +1

    Strooth me old mate .. get umungst it .. lets kick orff or on ..or is it crack around .. you know im norr sure so lets .. im 100% into this ..😁

  • @sarahthedreamcatcher8357
    @sarahthedreamcatcher8357 4 года назад +1

    Yay looks brilliant Mel xxx

  • @baloobear7838
    @baloobear7838 4 года назад +1

    Top job as ever Mel. Well done.

  • @camplinpb
    @camplinpb 4 года назад +1

    Great video Mel keep them coming mate , atb Paul

  • @garrybeard2031
    @garrybeard2031 4 года назад +1

    Great video mate well done.👍🇬🇧🍺🤘

  • @frederickharron5217
    @frederickharron5217 4 года назад +1

    Good one Mel...!

  • @r700jdk2
    @r700jdk2 4 года назад

    Hi Mel great vid thanks for the hints and tips😄
    Keep it up mate looking forward for the next vid👍
    Josh

  • @derekfixter9084
    @derekfixter9084 4 года назад

    Thanks for the information. Cheers Derek

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you and thanks for your support 👍🤓👍

  • @FreedomStrider
    @FreedomStrider 4 года назад +2

    Finally, someone else who is reusing the van floor! Good idea about using it as a stensil for the insulation board! What brand of PIR board did you use? We've been looking at buying ours as we're doing it soon, all the R values and lamda values seem similar but the prices are all over the place. Also, where did you buy it? Since any major place online charges like £40 for delivery for 3 simple board!!

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Hi ya wickes sell it only £18 a sheet 👍🤓👍

  • @pshearduk
    @pshearduk 4 года назад +1

    A great video as always Mel, thanks for sharing :)

  • @stotas2
    @stotas2 4 года назад +1

    Have you got the van running right yet. Good job on the floor

  • @MHUK-Matt
    @MHUK-Matt 4 года назад +1

    Hi Mel, great video as always! Good to see your subscriber count going up and up! I like how you make everything seem so effortless. Nice to see that polystyrene being used instead of celotex.. that stuff is expensive! ✌👽👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +2

      Thank you really appreciated 👍🤓👍

    • @MHUK-Matt
      @MHUK-Matt 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld Cheers Mel, thanks for your kind reply ✌👽👍

  • @donaldmarks8707
    @donaldmarks8707 4 года назад +1

    Good stuff Mel. Look forward to the next one. :-)

  • @katcankan7129
    @katcankan7129 4 года назад +1

    I watched this video thinking will we see Mels bottom 😹😉💜. Have a nice weekend 😺🥛🥛🐱🍺😃

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Cheers 🍻 rite back at ya 👍🤓👍

    • @katcankan7129
      @katcankan7129 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld 😊

    • @NomaddUK
      @NomaddUK 4 года назад +1

      It would not be a quality Mel video without at least a new moon. Makes me smile. Keep it up matey.

    • @gkuk
      @gkuk 4 года назад

      Hi 😺,Have a good weekend 👋

  • @TwoDogsplusMe
    @TwoDogsplusMe Год назад +1

    So Mel now you have removed the floor cargo hooks, what did you do next ? did they go back in, left as open holes or blocked with something?

  • @stewartmartin8783
    @stewartmartin8783 4 года назад +2

    Hi Mel did you think of putting strapping around the outside to support the units?

  • @simonnewton5572
    @simonnewton5572 4 года назад +2

    15.15 Mel Mel Mel . You really need a belt 🤣

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Ops sorry 😂😂🤓👍

    • @simonnewton5572
      @simonnewton5572 4 года назад +1

      Mel’s Van World it’s awful on a 60 inch tv. 🤣 the kids just pointed and laughed 🤪 hilarious. They spat there jelly out ...🤣

    • @wegenforum
      @wegenforum 4 года назад

      No he doesn't 😁

  • @adamvincent-garland7699
    @adamvincent-garland7699 4 года назад +2

    Another fab vid mate. You mentioned that next you will screw down the floor. Does that mean you wont be putting a vapour barrier down?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      No vapour barrier in the floor 👍🤓👍

    • @brynhope5544
      @brynhope5544 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld my van didn't have a vapour barrier down when it was done previously and I pulled it up to put new rear seat in and it had sweated or condensation build up and was soaking and had started to make the metal floor rust. I personally would advise you to hat least put a thin plastic sheet which is cheap to for a vapour barrier has you don't want it to be going rusty under there without you knowing

  • @NomaddUK
    @NomaddUK 4 года назад +2

    Hi Mel. Another to notch video old boy. I am finding it a tad chilly doing mine now. What temperature is it where you are? 4 degrees c here.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Hi thank you Yes same here cold as ice I have just started using an old gas heater to keep me going 👍🤓👍🥶

  • @terryhere3889
    @terryhere3889 2 года назад +1

    Hi Mel just watched your video on insulating your van floor with polystyrene from 2 years ago can I ask would you still do it that way or would you use some of these new products that are on the market that offer sound deadening and insulation ? Many thanks Terry H

  • @louisjantzen7141
    @louisjantzen7141 4 года назад +1

    Nice job: looks good.
    Dumb question: Why not use the batten as a guide to directly cut the poly, instead of marking first and *then* cutting?
    Half the work, methinks.

  • @markwhitehead1658
    @markwhitehead1658 4 года назад

    Great another video ☺ nice one Mel some good advice there mate👍

  • @ryanhaynes2206
    @ryanhaynes2206 4 года назад

    Good video what glue did you use to attach the battens to the floor

  • @Raul689
    @Raul689 2 года назад +1

    Hi Mel. I see you are using regular polystyrene for the floor insulation, rather then the more expensive celotex everyone is using 😄
    just wandering if this polystyrene is doing is job. do you feel any cold coming from the floor? I am planing on using the same thing, much cheaper than that celotex. Thanks Mel!

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  2 года назад +1

      Polystyrene is used in new motor homes and caravans it’s cheap light and it works floors are always cold no matter what you use that’s why I point my heater down at the floor when I get up in the morning it’s lush next van I build I’ll be doing it the same way so yes it works fine 😊👍

    • @Raul689
      @Raul689 2 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld Thanks a lot for you reply Mel. Just finished the floor today 👍

  • @justinsmith6296
    @justinsmith6296 4 года назад +4

    Also using Wickes carpark to build your camper costs you parking fines LOL

  • @MrWalbudri
    @MrWalbudri 2 года назад +1

    Hi Mel.. did you put down any form of vapour barrier as part of your floor insulation ?? Cheers

  • @ROUTEPLANNERPAUL
    @ROUTEPLANNERPAUL 4 года назад +1

    Your a talented man looks brilliant that floor mm cool,, Mel got a question here to see if you know how I should do mine,,, am going to be buying a sprinter like yours, but I want to put in 2xrows of 3 seats so that's 6 all together 9 seater, if I inform dvla of the conversion of the seats when I go to insure it year after year do I still need to tell the insurance of the original seat conversion,,,, am thinking if I tell dvla I shouldn't really need to, what is your opinion mate

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you 👍🤓👍

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      I think as long as it’s on the log book as a 9 seater it’s fine but better to tell insurance anyway

    • @ROUTEPLANNERPAUL
      @ROUTEPLANNERPAUL 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld thanks Mel,, its a hard one, it's just the insurance company s can be funny buggers

    • @ashy1423
      @ashy1423 4 года назад +1

      What ever you do be honest with the insurance. In the event of an accident
      (God forbid) they will use anything to get out of paying a claim, meaning that you could end up paying for any damages out of your own pocket. It won’t cost that much difference yearly.
      Good luck with your build.
      Ash from 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @ROUTEPLANNERPAUL
      @ROUTEPLANNERPAUL 4 года назад

      @@ashy1423 thank you Ash for your reply

  • @CheckFred
    @CheckFred 4 года назад +1

    I remember in my 20's being nagged at work for bending over my work outside with my T-shirt riding up my back. (I ignored them 'cause I knew best!) - UNTIL my back locked one evening at home. My missus was in fits of laughter - she thought I was joking :-(
    Had trouble with the old back ever since ..... If you've escaped the dreaded 'bad back' so far Mel, don't go getting a chill in yours, or you won't be doing any of these video's for a long time to come .... OOPS! :-)

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Cheers mate really appreciate your advice 👍🤓👍

  • @OAPMrTickle
    @OAPMrTickle 4 года назад

    Damn, I had to mute the sound when you were marking and cutting that polystyrene 😜 It's like nails on a chalk board.

  • @TheRowbotham
    @TheRowbotham 4 года назад +2

    mel that black stuff is to stop vibration but could it be repurposed to stop vibration on the walls ie abit of free soundproofing

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      No it’s horrible and really heavy good idea though 👍🤓👍

  • @derekfixter9084
    @derekfixter9084 4 года назад +1

    H i Mel, another informative video. What glue did you use to glue the wodden battens to the floor?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Thank you I used pinkgrip 👍🤓👍

    • @derekfixter9084
      @derekfixter9084 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld thanks for the information Mel. ATB Derek

  • @fritzfromswitzerland
    @fritzfromswitzerland 4 года назад +1

    Where do you bolt your forniture on? Is the floor enough thick? Nice channel by the way

  • @briancollis9352
    @briancollis9352 4 года назад +1

    Mel, good video. What is the U value of polystyrene compared to sheet insulation? Also did you mark the lines of the Batten’s as you put the ply back?

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      I don’t know the r value sorry and yes I marked it out 👍🤓👍

  • @crowyyy
    @crowyyy 4 года назад +1

    Another great vid 👍 just less but crack in nxt one cheers 🙈👍🤣🤣🤣

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Thank you and no worries I’ll try not turning my back to the camera in future 👍🤓👍

  • @GarethJonesMusic
    @GarethJonesMusic 4 года назад +1

    Hi Mel, would you recommend using a vapour barrier in the floor and as we can't use the existing hardwood floor that came with the van due to it being a bit tatty is 12 mm hardwood ply from Wickes ok to use? thanks for the videos :)

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Hello thanks for watching I have never put vapour barrier on the floor only because I never really thought about it sometimes it’s easy to over think things the wood from wickes is definitely the better quality that I have come across good luck with your build 👍🤓👍

    • @GarethJonesMusic
      @GarethJonesMusic 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld Thanks Mel, much appreciated. Have a great Christmas :)

  • @garyherbert2378
    @garyherbert2378 4 года назад +1

    Loving these vid. But got a question do you leave a expansion gap on the polystyrene? Planning on putting lvt down on floor and it needs a base like glass. Would that expand much as it warms and buckle the lvt? I am a floor crawler by trade and if not perfect will drive me batty.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      gary herbert hi Gary I didn’t know polystyrene did that I just allways fit it as snug as I can because it squeaks otherwise good luck with your build 👍🤓👍

    • @garyherbert2378
      @garyherbert2378 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld fair play nether do I never used poly as sub base. Was hoping you did lol

  • @nightwalker5278
    @nightwalker5278 4 года назад +1

    Awesome, learned loads once again. What adhesive you advise using for the floor batons? ATB

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      I use pinkgrip inside it doesn’t smell 👍🤓👍

  • @jimmyreuben6919
    @jimmyreuben6919 4 года назад +1

    What type of glue do you use for polystyrene please Mel. Most of the one I have got say not to use on it.
    Cheers

  • @modzzjust4u
    @modzzjust4u 4 года назад +1

    Hi Mel, what glue did you use to glue the timber down? Cheers

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Pink mastic from whickes 👍🤓👍

    • @modzzjust4u
      @modzzjust4u 4 года назад

      Mel’s Van World Perfect, was trying to think of a strong way of fixing them, without drilling into the floor 👍

  • @brooklyngraham4288
    @brooklyngraham4288 4 года назад +1

    Good idea putting strips of wood by door edges.

  • @inventor1v
    @inventor1v 4 года назад

    GT85 (Asda stocks it) is much better than WD40! WD40 is mainly a water dispersant, hence the WD! GT85 is a lubricant and penetrating oil. 👍

  • @stellarandrews9538
    @stellarandrews9538 4 года назад

    Hi Mel Hi Mr Cat

  • @rickardenstedt
    @rickardenstedt 4 года назад

    Hi mate! Are not going to put a VAPOR barrier on the floor? Regards Rickard.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Hi I never do 😂🤓👍

    • @rickardenstedt
      @rickardenstedt 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld well, I suppose you don't do that in houses either...hehe... Merry Christmas mate!

  • @bigcasey4143
    @bigcasey4143 4 года назад +1

    How many heads & how many handles has your old broom had then Mel???

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +2

      I’ve had that old broom 20 years it’s only had 4 new heads and 3 handles lol thank for watching 👍🤓👍

    • @stewartmartin8783
      @stewartmartin8783 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld great one trigger

  • @stokeszboy
    @stokeszboy 4 года назад +1

    Mel, would you use it on the walls aswell?, Doing my floor this weekend and this seems way cheaper and in my budget.

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад +1

      Absolutely the only down side is it’s messy 👍🤓👍

    • @adamvincent-garland7699
      @adamvincent-garland7699 4 года назад

      But worth a note that the insulating qualities for this type of foam is quite low. However, i hear that the floor is the least important surface for insulating so you can get away with it a bit more. Is that right?

    • @ResilienceQd
      @ResilienceQd 4 года назад +1

      ​@@adamvincent-garland7699 At the end of the day, how much insulation you need largely depends on where you are planning to drive your van. If you're going to Scandinavia, the Alps or Canada in the winter, you need a well-insulated floor. Too. =)

  • @errolmagill1611
    @errolmagill1611 4 года назад +1

    Do you find that the polystyrene squeeks when you drive?

  • @Beth_White
    @Beth_White 4 года назад +1

    Do you find that the polystyrene is as a sufficient insulator as other rigid board insulators?

  • @brynhope5544
    @brynhope5544 4 года назад +1

    Where is your vapour barrier bud?

  • @mychills123
    @mychills123 Год назад

    Mel is that polystyrene inflammable ?

  • @georgeoliver8989
    @georgeoliver8989 4 года назад

    Well done Mel great job how many vans have you converted 👏👏👍

  • @katcankan7129
    @katcankan7129 4 года назад +1

    #1😊

  • @CORRIGEEN71
    @CORRIGEEN71 4 года назад +1

    Why not pir ie King'span in the floor better performance

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      This is cheaper and works just as good 👍🤓👍

    • @CORRIGEEN71
      @CORRIGEEN71 4 года назад

      @@BigVanSmallWorld not what the science says but that's what's was in my Talbot highwayman camper 1989

  • @davidnew1887
    @davidnew1887 4 года назад

    Hi nelly got a quick question if you don’t mind iv bought a Chinese heater. And I can’t find your video for the life of me.
    I don’t want to put a hole in the bottom of the tank that come with the heater because it may start leaking at a later date and it’s a week point. You bought one off of eBay (a tap that goes on top of the tank any chance you can send me a Ebay item number
    I’m a bit old school and not very good on phones. Can you PM me the reply because I don’t no if I will ever find this message again.
    I won’t put a hole in the bottom of the tank if the pre fitted them I wouldn’t of minded
    Looking forward to your reply
    Mell
    (Dave). one of your FANS

    • @BigVanSmallWorld
      @BigVanSmallWorld  4 года назад

      Hi Dave try looking for this Silver 470mm Heaters Joint Gas Tank Pick up Pipe Tube Universal Line Gasoline
      Hope this helps good luck 👍🤓👍

    • @davidnew1887
      @davidnew1887 4 года назад

      Mel’s Van World
      Found them cheers mell iv had a brain wave think I’m going to put a proper motorcycle tap on it because I can have to lines in the tank that way I can put one pipe about a inch off of the bottom of the tank and one 6inchs up from the bottom so I can put the fule on and if I run out in the middle of the Knight I no i can put it on to reserve so I no iv got plenty left to keep me worm for a day or to as I can switch to the longer pipe just by twisting to reserve 👍

  • @toastieup
    @toastieup 4 года назад +1

    Blue moon of Kentucky keep on shining 15.15 🤦‍♂️

  • @mrxracing9193
    @mrxracing9193 4 года назад

    How does the polystyrene cost compare to celotex stuff?

    • @toastieup
      @toastieup 4 года назад

      MRX Media 75% cheaper

    • @stokeszboy
      @stokeszboy 4 года назад

      Is it also from Wickes