Even do Plo Koon is Dead, I want to See his Ghost as a Mentor to Ahsoka in Rebels, Since Plo Koon is Filoni's Favorite Jedi & Ahsoka is like Filoni's Baby.
No. She is not. She was created by Lucas. Not Filoni. You saw what we got from Filoni when Lucas isn’t involved. Lucas and his daughter made TCW, Filoni just directed the episodes.
Plo Koon isn’t a force ghost. He couldn’t be. It was solely Yoda and Kenobi for the first time in millennia for a reason…. Qui-Gon taught them. That “power” was lost to history. Only few actually know about it at all. Plo Koon died before Qui-Gon even finished Yoda’s teaching it, Obi-Wan’s as well. They didn’t even know you COULD retain consciousness after death until just about a year before the end of the clone wars. More like 6 months.
I love Plo-Koon. He's easy my favorite character in all of Star Wars. I always loved the Dorians as a species and Koon easily was a fascinating character that I wished the actual prequel trilogy delved more into. At least, the 08 Clone Wars series did him some justice. But yeah, I totally agree with you. Vader is an utter powerhouse. And while sharing a few points of striking similarities, Vader's proactive approach to cover his weaknesses more, plus the raw power/manipulation of the Force unfortunately is too much for Koon to handle. But I will say this. You are by far one of the most detailed RUclipsrs. It's really refreshing to see someone who pulls so much from a variety of sources, even if you have issues with them(especially with Plo-Koon, as I know quite a lot about him). So overall, good job. Many other RUclipsrs who do geek culture analysis on franchises should be more like you.
@@supremeleaderren7681 yeah but it was luke who is supposed to be one of the strongest jedi and vader was much older then. Also he was hesitant because it was his son. Anakin had not reached near his full potential and vader reached 80 percent of that potential which was more than anakin at the time. Idk man I see where your coming from but I give it to vader
@@cashhenson5198 "it was luke who is supposed to be one of the strongest jedi" Luke was weaker than most prequal trilogy jedi at this point. I don't see how he was one of the most powerful jedi. "and vader was much older then" Vader was far more powerful than his ANH version at this point. "Also he was hesitant because it was his son." On what basis? He went all out at. It's confirmed by ROTJ comic. "Anakin had not reached near his full potential and vader reached 80 percent of that potential which was more than anakin at the time." Vader didn't reach eighty percent of his own potential. He was weaker than than Anakin. It's confirmed by multiple quotes.
Christian Navarro Keep in mind that rank does not have to do with anything as far as skill goes. Anakin Skywalker was supposed to be the greatest force user and most skilled Jedi of his era.
EvanNova95 sooo...are we gonna see a certain collaboration between your good self and Jensaarai1 in the future, regarding Kyle Katarn going toe to toe with Darth Vader?
@@theamazingnobody1082plo would destroy ATOTC and CW up till mortis,after that anakin begins to accelerate in power and surpasses plo Plo is third most powerful Jedi after mace and yoda before anakin and obi wan surpass him
1)Darth Sidious vs Abeloth... 2)The entire Lost Tribe of the Sith vs Darth Kryat's entire One Sith 3)Darth Bane vs Grand Lord Darish Vol 4)Darth Sidious vs a resurrected Darth Kryat 5)Darth Kryat vs Mace Windu 6)Satele Shan vs Darth Kryat
Sidious, while being the most powerful Sith Lord ever, has nothing on Abeloth. Sidious would be on par, or slightly weaker than Son. The combined power of Son and Daughter couldn't even hold out against Abeloth. How in the hell would Sidious take on Abeloth and live?
STR33TSofJUST1C3 I agree with you. If Darth Sidious and Darth Caedus together might match Abeloth. Luke Skywalker would not have defeated Abeloth without Darth Kryat fighting with him.
Geoffrey Edgson That last duel in the Maw wasn't the only time Luke fought Abeloth. They had a couple battles. Luke got Abeloth retreating with her tail between the legs, even when the Lost Sith conspired against Luke and his son. He still defeated her. But it's true that Luke only killed (not just defeated) Abeloth with Krayt's help.
I think there's a big difference there. During the Clone Wars Anakin Skywalker faced Darth Tyranus as an equal on Tatooine, Naboo (twice), and Zygerria, before killing him on the Invisible Hand. Luke became the most powerful Force user in the Galaxy from when he defeated Darth Sidious in a duel, and remainder at the level even after he and Darth Kryat killed Abeloth. Logistically, I agree that Luke had beaten Abeloth on several occasions, but she only created more avatars and returned to the galaxy. defeating Abeloth and killing her are two different things. On the other hand, this note could be used to argue that Darth Sidious could defeat Abeloth in one of her avatar's, but could not kill her. In your earlier statement, did you mean kill Abeloth or simply defeat her when you state Darth Sidious could not survive an encounter with her?
STR33TSofJUST1C3 Actualy son and daughter defeated abeloth multiple times as a part of the cycle to hold her in prison.Their death was what eventualy freed her pretty much.
As a LOTR and Star Wars nut, as well as a longstanding fan of your channel and voice, with Vader and Plo Koon being among my favourite characters... this video is extremely satisfying to say the least.
***** He isn't over powered, it's just that his force drain is a huge issue, but its useless against people who are immune to it. Like Anakin, Dooku, Luke and Sidious, they have also shown the ability to negate force drain. People have tried to say the force drain is different to what the dark reaper does, but no source says it is any different, so really that is just guessing. But seeing as Nihilus isn't particularly impressive in anything else, well lifting his ship was done on a planet which is a force nexus. They would beat Nihilus.
cup1966wow It took Meetra Surik (The Jedi Exile), plus 2 of her companions to defeat Nihilus, and that was only after Visas Marr severed her force connection with Nihilus, weakening him. It's safe to say he's overpowered, considering what he's shown to be capable of. Note that Jensaarai has also never included Sidious or Luke in his videos. They are also overpowered. He's good at not including OP characters in his videos.
"Probably a good call." LOL. Plo Koon was a cool character -- I wish we saw more of him in the Clone Wars series. And I would put him up there as one of the few Jedi who would have a chance at defeating Darth Vader in battle. One thing I'd like to see in future versus matches is some sort of system that rates chances -- ie, Vader would have the advantage, but if they fought ten times, roughly how many times would Kloon be expected to win?
It's good to know that you've actually updated your knowledge on Plo Koon and Vader's abilities. That way, it wouldn't have been "just your opinion," like you say in almost every Versus video. I had no doubt that Vader was going to win, but I thought the match would be very close.
This review was really good. I kind of wished Plo Koon would've won though. But it is just his opinion and his research of the two characters. I wish he would do some with Darth Malak and more with Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma. I would love to see how Exar Kun would match up against Mace Windu or Darth Malak. Luke Skywalker against Darth Malgus or even Darth Maul. Count Dooku against Ulic Qel-Droma and maybe even handicap versus matches where two Jedi take on one Sith or two Sith take on one Jedi. Love your reviews Jensaarai1! Keep'em coming.
I have a recommendation for your future videos. From your previous vader descriptions it was obvious to me that you would give vader the win. As a result i am no longer convinced that your "vs" videos are about fights with uncertain outcomes. Your fights seem to be more about HOW the fight would go as opposed to WHO would win. Therefore i suggest that at the end of each fight you give a ratio of expected outcomes. E.G "vader beats koon 7/10 fights" This allows you to be more detailed about the HOW, which seems to be your main focus.
***** You're jumping the gun there. That's not necessarily true yet. All we know is that they're prepared to, and most likely will retcon much of the EU, not necessarily all of it. They'd literally have to needlessly go out of their way to get rid of all of the EU.
Plo Koon has a variant of Force Lightning called Electric Judgement, I see that as being his Ace in the hole. If he can use it against Vader, he might be able to disable Vader's Prosthetics.
Force lightning is not some end all be all. Do you really think the guy that knows how to handle a lightsaber better than anyone else in Star Wars doesn’t know how to BLOCK. Like we’ve literally seen him block more powerful force users’ lightning attacks multiple times before. Like Dooku’s. Yeah he wasn’t in a cybernetic suit yet of course, but he still used his lightsaber to do that more than once. He’d do the same thing to Plo. That’s why anyone that thinks Sidious would dogwalk him is an idiot. It solely depends on whether or not Sidious could slip a blast by him, catch him off guard. If he could, game over; if NOT, Vader kills him.
Red Pyro Bullshit. "I see Jabba as a reflection of myself. That is why he is the most powerful jedi ever." -Goge Lukas 1963 Check yourself before you wreck yourself. It's Cannon ideot
Gnost Dural vs Plo Koon? Who is the better Kel For master? Need I remind you jensaarai that you haven't done a versus video on Gnost yet. Both Jedi are highly skilled. Thus a good versus video I presume?
This is gonna seem like a really weird idea, but... Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Vader. The old vs new. Was Skywalker a more formidable combatant under the Jedi Order, with his full command of the Force and unhindered body? Or does Vader's experience and forced adaptations to his form make him superior to his former abilities.
Anakin Skywalker Lightsaber Training: Both Form V variants "Shien and Djem So" became the favored fighting styles of Anakin Skywalker as a Jedi, because their aggressive and strength-oriented fighting methods fit well with his arrogant, confrontational personality type. He also studied Form VI "Niman" to develop his skills with dual-blades. During his first confrontation with Dooku he was forced to draw heavily on his Force-abilities to match Dooku's speed and precision, tiring quickly. Dooku's far more energy efficient Makashi style won the day, and Skywalker lost his arm when he opened himself up. The aggressive Form V encourages practitioners to actively attempt to dominate their foes, and as the war progressed, Skywalker drew on his anger and rage with mounting frequently, sliding ever closer to the dark side of the Force. When confronting Dooku for the last time, Skywalker relied heavily on these emotions to fuel his offense, demonstrating both overwhelming strength and bewildering speed as he bashed through Dooku's precision defense and sliced off both of the Count's hands before brutally executing him. When Anakin Skywalker embraced the dark side and was rechristened Darth Vader, he maintained his Form V mastery, but utilized it in an even more brutal fashion, becoming a frightening opponent. However, his aggression became his fatal flaw, as he would become so controlled by it that it fucked with his judgement. During his battle with Obi-Wan on Mustafar, Kenobi, similar to his final duel with General Grievous, would utilize his "wait them out" philosophy, relying entirely on the defensive and energy-conservative moves of soresu until the opponent became frustrated or fatigued, causing them to leave sloppy openings in their offense that Kenobi could then exploit. Vader's frustration and arrogance eventually caused him to make a tactically fatal decision, and resulted in his defeat and severe mutilation. Force Abilites: The fact that Skywalker was born with the highest known midi-chlorian count in galactic history and was considered to be the Chosen One leads to various conclusions about his Force potential and power. Although extremely young and having less than perfect training (due to his late age joining the Order), Skywalker was one of the most powerful living Jedi. However, Anakin's focus was given more towards improving his lightsaber skills than his Force abilities. As such, while Anakin's raw power was immense, his knowledge of the Force was limited to fairly straightforward techniques. Skywalker was skilled in the use of telekinesis able to lift heavy objects with minimal effort. During his duel with Asajj Ventress on Yavin 4, he easily deflected a large pillar back at Ventress when she hurled it at him and immediately afterwards he used the Force to block her Force Push without even slowing down. He was also skilled at Force Jump, and was able to leap massive distances. Skywalker was also capable of a powerful Force Push;[52] however, it should be noted that despite having a stronger connection to the Force than Obi-Wan Kenobi, his Force Push was unable to overcome Kenobi's during their duel on Mustafar.[10] He was also skilled at Jedi Mind Tricks.[234] However, Skywalker also developed a habit of using the Force Choke power, a sign of who and what he would later become. Skywalker was also proficient in the use of Force speed, able to use it to increase the efficiency of his lightsaber skills.[86] Anakin also had an affinity for the use of Force visions, such as when he predicted the deaths of his mother and wife.[10][11] He also possessed a keen Force sense, such as when he sensed the assassination attempt on his future wife. During the Zillo Beast incident, Anakin was able to conjure a Force barrier with the assistance of Yoda and Aayla Secura. During the Battle of Mon Calamari, Anakin was able to use the Force to rip apart the support bindings of the planetary scanner, toppling the building over. Chosen Weapon: As per Form V weapon specifications, the lightsaber had a solid casing and a heavily shrouded blade emitter. The beveled emitter was designed to designate separate facets of the blade for either offensive or defensive purposes. The lightsaber hilt included a ridged hand grip, as Djem So required its users to maintain a solid grip on the hilt. It was also later modified to allow it to operate underwater. The focusing lense was a blue adaegan crystal.
Darth Vader Lightaber Training: Initially after gaining the suit, Vader was forced to rely on his newly enhanced strength and reach, utilizing a clumsy method that was comprised of little more than stiffly executed vertical strikes that served to wear down his opponent. This initial method was seen to elements of Soresu and Ataru bladework in conjunction with his clumsy Djem So strikes. However, Vader was able to overcome this limitation fairly quickly, developing a refined version of Djem So that continued to include Ataru and Soresu elements, but also added Makashi and Juyo to the mix. In fact, by the time of his first visit to Kashyyyk, Vader had incorporated aspects of all combat forms into his fighting style - even the highest and most dangerous ones. Rather than attempting to fight through the bulky and heavy armor, Vader fought with it, utilizing the armor's weight and his powerful prosthetics to provide his blows with incredible force, while relying on the main articulation points at the elbows and wrists for precision.With this new form, Vader regained some of his old agility, and his bladework became brutally effective. He never utilized anything less than a killing blow, and his swordplay demonstrated extraordinary precision, unpredictability, and speed, notwithstanding the two-handed grip he typically favored. Even his most simplistic moves contained enough strength to nearly disarm his opponents. The additional weight and bulk of Vader's cybernetics and armor made engaging in Ataru-esque acrobatics considerably more difficult than it had been, and he typically refrained from making use of such maneuvers. He was however, still fully capable of performing such acrobatics when pressed. Vader proved able to apply this personalized variant in many ways, sometimes opting to fight one-handed, relying on precision and economy of movement, but thanks to the added strength his prosthetics afforded him, he maintained a great deal of power. When forced onto the defensive, Vader would fight with a two-handed grip, elbows pressed tightly to his sides with the blade held straight out in front of him, manipulating it deftly with his wrists only. This method proved effective for protecting his vulnerable chest mounted control panel, but, at least in his early applications of it, it was not as effective at protecting his limbs.Vader apparently learned his lesson from his duel with Kenobi, learning how to control his emotions when in combat and finding a way to call upon calculated bursts of the dark side while not being blinded by emotions running amok, fighting with determination and relentlessness rather than rage. Force Abilites: Because his body had been severely burned on Mustafar, Darth Vader was thought to have lost much of his Force potential, although he nonetheless retained an incredibly high midi-chlorian count. Darth Vader made extensive use of both the Force Choke and Force Crush abilities.The Dark Lord also possessed skill in the use of Tutaminis, such as when he absorbed several blaster bolts from Han Solo's blaster on Bespin. He was also capable of using Force deflection to redirect blaster bolts, sometimes even at whomever fired them.It should be noted that Darth Vader, despite being a powerful Sith Lord, was rarely seen generating Force lightning. This was due to the extensive presence of cybernetic augmentations in his body as well as the presence of the electronic life-support system in his suit. Any attempt by Vader to generate Force Lightning carried the great risk of causing these systems to short-circuit, possibly to deadly effect. To Compensate for this Vader used an ability known as Kinetite. It involved molding "Force energized lightning" into a sphere of restrained kinetic energy which could be thrown at an enemy. Instead of burning or electrocuting it's target like most forms of Force lightning, it acted as a solid projectile. However he only used this abilty once and was in close proximity to the Kaiburr crystal (a force augmented artifact). Chosen weapon: Darth Vader's Lightsaber, simply put is a power tool. Following a heavy duty design typical of Form V specialists, it featured a thick, ridged handgrip, a throttle style activator, forward mounted adjustment knobs, and a beveled emitter shroud. Mechanically it utilized a high-output diatium power cell and a red-hued synthetic crystal as the focusing lense. The ironic thing about this weapon is that at first Darth Vader used Palpatines lightsaber as the model for the lightsaber Vader was trying to build. However, Vader considered his master's weapon to be an antique, and sought to create a more personalized weapon with more ballast. Wishing to impress Palpatine, Vader attempted to create a novel design, but the resulting weapon was little more than a black-alloy version of his first Jedi lightsaber. Due to the size of his mechanical hands, Vader was forced to make the grip considerably thicker and longer than his original lightsaber.Being a patron of the arts, Palpatine designed an elegant weapon with a high level of craftsmanship, clearly influenced by the Sith Lord's love of antiquity. The body of the lightsaber was fashioned from nigh-indestructible phrik alloy while the flat emitter was composed of aurodium.The whole of the weapon possessed a refined and elegant electrum finish resulting in a beautiful and almost golden in appearence. So what began as an attempt to surpass the designs of a beautiful display of craftsmanship resulted in a weapon so inelegant it verged on ungainly.
While there is little doubt that Anakin is a very well rounded fighter, he is still very arrogant and has trouble planning ahead as shown because he always cuts loose at a moments notice. Also, even though Anakin had the highest known midi-chlorian count making his sensitivity to the force incredable, he never delved deeper into his abilites making his knowleadge of the force painfully straitforward. If he had devoted more of his time to studying his force abilites, Anakin Skywalker would have been the most powerful force sensitive in the universe. Darth Vader on the other hand was forced to rebuild his technique from the ground up after his mutilation, and as a result, his force abilites were almost on par with his skill as a lightsaber duelist. Yes, Vader will never have the magnitude he could have had, but he knows how to make what he does have count. Darth Vader Wins.
I've been kind of interested about Quinlan Vos and how he holds up in a versus battle. He seems to have a impressive mish-mash skill set as a lightsaber duelist, mostly prominent during the Clone Wars (with a decent fight count against Dark Jedi to boot) while some of his force abilities that he is most known for (reading images from objects for example) aren't something that is useful in actual combat (though I admit I have been rusty on my knowledge of Prequel Era SW comics so Vos probably has more to the plate). ...I think Vos Vs Darth Maul would be interesting, as while Vos is a fast learner as a duelist, Maul has practically trained his entire life to be one of the best Sith duelist machine of his time.
Jensaarai- You do an excellent job with these VS. videos anyone posting anything other than THANK YOU has been consumed by the dark side of being an a hole THANK YOU
Hmmm... I wouldn't be so sure about this one. I think they are definitely equals as lightsaber duelists, but I dont think Vader has that much of an edge in force abilities, especially given Koons electric judgement. I think Koon would play this fight a lot more carefully than some people apparently think. He was one of the best tacticians in the order. Could Vader best Koon? Of course. But would it cost him his life? Probably. I don't think either of them are dumb enough to make this a battle to the death. I know that the point of these Versus Videos is to have a battle to the death, but I think in this case they would both know each others styles well and know that they were equals in lightsaber combat so they wouldn't waste theor energy on a long drawn out slugging match. I think Koon lets Vader think he has a massive edge in force abilities and then when Vader becomes a bit vulnerable Koon shoots some electric judgement Vaders way. This would definitely take Vader by surprise (There is no evidence Vader knows of Plos ability with this), and even if he defends against it, it would break Vaders concenration enough so that Koon could deal a decisive blow either with the lightsaber or with a series of force pushes and electric judgement incorportated into his lightsaber sequences. These characters are both tanks who could stay in the fight for the long haul if they wanted, but because of that ironically I think this fight would end up being a short one. Not because of Plos skills necessarily (Vader is a bit more powerful in my opinion), but because of Koons tactical prowess.
Vader has tutaminis and is suit has electrical insulators to prevent lightning of Koon's level of getting anywhere. vader is too smart to overextend himself. I think it's more likely that Koon escapes (barely) and vader decides not to persue.
Actually you’re quite wrong Darth Sidious built in a weakness to lightning so he could stop Vader in case he tried to overthrow him so Koon will kill him with lightning
@@joshuakei8925 While electric judgement is not as powerful as regular sith lightning, it is more powerful than blaster bolts. Vader has never been credited with the ability to repel anything other than blaster bolts, so his only defense is his lightsaber. and it's doubtful his insulators can protect him from Koon's attacks.
Hey jensaarai, I have an interesting idea for your versus series. Instead of only do light saber duellists vs light saber duellists, do a shooter vs shooter. For example, have Jango Fett vs Boba Fett, father vs son deal. Or take a clone/bounty hunter such as Commander Cody vs Bossk or IG-88. Or have a Jedi/Sith with a shooter, like your group versus, that would be awesome. Well you get the idea. I think this idea would be very interesting and a good change of pace and well I'm just curious on who would win in a shootout.
Galen Marek vs Starkiller clone. Darth Vader vs Anakin Skywalker. Galen Marek or Starkiller clone vs Luke Skywalker ( Jedi Grand Master). And finally, Luke Skywalker (Grand Master) vs Yoda.
Since you seem to have no aversion in continuing to use Vader in your videos, please do Vader vs. Bane, or at least give me a reason why you won't do that match-up. I've suggested it on most of your recent videos, and you don't have an impossibly high amount of comments on your videos, so I'd be surprised if you never saw any of my Bane vs. Vader suggestions. Plus, I'm pretty sure you'd be the first to do a proper versus video including Darth Bane. If not Bane vs. Vader, just please include Bane in a versus video with an opponent you see fit.
***** Hooray! And I completely understand. I'm not the only one giving suggestions, plus you have your own ideas as well. I look forward to seeing Bane, and maybe Bane vs. Vader in a video of yours hopefully in the near future!
***** In some ways, Exar Kun would definitely be the better opponent. The most obvious is that they were both the Dark Lord of the Sith in their respective eras, while Vader was not; he was always Sidious' apprentice technically. Though that's pretty much the main similarity between Bane and Kun that Vader and Bane don't also share. Vader and Bane actually have more in common. They both are the exact same height I believe, and along the same page, are physically intimidating; they both are some of the most preeminent Djem So practitioners of all the Sith; and they both have dealt with suits/armor that acted as both a blessing and a curse for them. Oh, by "better opponent," do you mean you think Vader's too powerful for Bane, or not powerful enough to reasonably go toe-to-toe with him?
TinyTorah I think Bane is too powerfull for Vader. Even Jensaarai said in sobe comment that Bane is stronger then Vader. I don't see any sense to make duel where we already know who will win :)
***** What are you basing these statements off of? Pretty sure it's all mere conjecture on your part. Bane lost to Zannah only because she used her OP dark side tendrils, which Bane never had any experience against, and still managed to almost kill her while she was using that technique. And in that duel, she had to RESORT to that. She was getting her ass beat by Bane. In an earlier "duel" between the two of them, Bane was unarmed, and Darth Zannah couldn't defeat him. And I wouldn't be so sure that Vader's the better duelist. In a duel with his master, Kas'im, who was considered by the Sith to be the best duelist of their era, and possibly the greatest ever, Bane was outdueling him, until Kas'im resorted to a variant of Ataru by splitting his double-bladed lightsaber into 2 separate lightsabers, which caught Bane off-guard since Kas'im kept this style secret from all his apprentices. And Bane continued to get better too. His duel with Kas'im was not even half-way through Bane's story.
My bet is, fanboy bias aside, Kyle Katarn would probably win. I'd of course love to hear Jensaarai1, EvanNova95, or GreyJedi91's opinions on it though.
TinyTorah oh yeah, i'm pretty sure Katarn would win, but yes, it would be really awesome to have the experts review it and give us their input, they often surprise me in their in depth analysis of it all.
Katarn is a bad ass, but Kenobi would put up a good fight. The problem with that match is that, while they are both suckers for punishment, excellent duelists, and even have similar lightsabers, Katarn is better with force abilities.
Zach Clapp I agree, and even when i thought about that match up, I was pretty sure Katarn was gonna win, so today I thought about what a fight would look like between Katarn and Ep. III Anakin...i think that would be even better, and probably a more even match in many ways...
asher labrousse Hmm. I actually think Katarn would win even easier against ROTS Anakin/Vader. While he was technically more skilled and more powerful than Kenobi in ROTS, he was too haughty, and fell to his own hubris. If this is the Anakin/Vader we'd pit against someone as experienced as Katarn, I don't think Anakin/Vader would stand a chance.
+Jensaarai1 Like Jensaarai1 said, Malgus' cybernetics were almost entirely around his face and chest, mending the wounds to his respiratory system from the grenade-boomage that tore up his throat. He needed them to breathe, not to walk.
NightWolfXVI I never said he was, dumb fuck you asked a dumbass question how come malgus could use force lightning, obviously he never got his hands cut off
Also a Kel dor's ability to see twice as far in dim light was not mentioned in the profile either. This ability would make tactical decisions about the battle thought far more in advance if Plo koon decided to use acrobatics to maneuver around Vader.
freesid stf You have to be vastly more powerful than someone to be able to break through there force sheild unless there injured or something like that. so no vader owuldnt be able to just break through koon's sheild
The irony of this duel - a sith that is unable to use force lightning against a jedi that has "shocking" skills for one of the jedi order :) And coming to the end result - I believe they are actually equal - the same fighting skill, Vader has a better weapon while Plo Koon has (IMO) better physical feats and to force abilities - Vader is stronger while Plo Koon has better training and Electric Judgement that grants him also a few small points. And so I think that they would actually simply kill each other.
can darth vader lose to anyone in your opinion.... he wins every video you put him in despite him have much less flesh to "feel" the force with, his hastily and poorly made cybernetics and his need for pain killer just to move let alone do battle. i just feel you say these things then immediately downplay them. its.... confusing.. after i saw the last two involving vader i figured he was getting the win again. dont get me wrong.. i like the playlist. i just dont see myself watching the next vader one.
all valid. i just want to see vader challenged more often. someone who can draw or win. we all know vader can beast out the typical jedi masters. he spent his life purging jedi and being a boss.
It doesent matter how much "flesh" he has to feel the force, or Yoda-being so small would be weak in comparison. and as for the pain from his cybernetics, we know that Sith draw power from such things like Darth bane did from his orbelisk armor....and uhh..i think Vaders line aka Luke as well was extra special- dident he transform into "pure force" or somthing during the Vong war? anyway yah Vader wins,,exept against Luke,,and maby a trained Leia,,,oh and Palps himself but hes in a different league.
Vader can not be defeated. He is the chosen one. Yoda hoped in Luke just because it was his son, otherwise there was no hope for anyone to win against Vader and Palpatine. Nobody can beat Vader if the force is not on his side. Vader would win even against Exar Kun (and exar kun is not canon, even as Starkiller).
"Plo Koon was renowned as one of the greatest swordmasters in the era..." that is what say about everyone. I find it becomes a bit meaningless. These guys gotta rank up and somehow I just dont get the impression that he is anything special.
DIGmusic7 bear in mind there are 10,000 Jedi knights operating at any one time. This means that even if you are in the top 100, which most members of the Jedi council would be, you’d be in the top 1%. Koon was at least top 20 of his time, probably more like top 10, meaning that though he wasn’t the absolute best duellist, he was without doubt one of the greatest of his era. Most of the characters that are used in verses series are of course ones which have been heavily featured, because those are the characters with enough info to form a set of statistics around. The most heavily featured Jedi are, for the most part, the most skilful Jedi, because those are the ones sent on the most interesting missions with the most interesting stories. You don’t hear much about your average rank-in-file Jedi Knight. This is why in so many versus videos the characters are described as ‘amongst the greatest whatever of his/her era’, simply because when compared to the sheer quantity of force users throughout the galaxy at any one time, they are indeed amongst best.
Even if you include the extended universe of star wars I would still put Vader in the top 10 though he would fall below 2 but only because of the serious disadvantages he has.
In an interview he stated Vader post injury had about 80% of the power of Palpatine. Had he not been injured, he would have eventually become twice as powerful as either Palpatine or Yoda.
Yeah, I think we've had that conversation before. And I understand completely. Too many unknowns. But yeah, I'd love to see a video by you pitting those two against each other.
Aayla Secura vs Darth Talon the sexy Twi'lek deathmatch everyone's been waiting for! Well mostly just me, but still oldschool Jedi vs newschool sithlady would be pretty epic! Who will hold the title of deadliest and sexiest Twi'lek???
***** I'm happy to hear you will use him! But I agree he will be difficult to pair with because of his 2 double blades, but GG is a pretty good character to use against him. And, if I may ask, what was your opinion (if you watched it) of the Season 5 finale arc with Ahsoka?
One thing I never understood when it came to Vader was why did he use cloning technology to produce new limps that would allow the force to flow through them.
My best guess is at the time of the Clone Wars it was impossible to clone Force Users, and even doing so with limbs would be impossible to do. However, after Mustafaar his nerve damage was so extensive that I wouldn't be surprised if it was impossible to mend the flesh without using cybernetics.
@Jensaarai1 Hi first of all big fan on your videos love watching them. But i am curious, I know you are mainly concerned with force sensitives but will we ever see match ups pitting someone who isnt but can more that well hold there own against a force sensitive? Like Grievous or maybe a mandalor? any way keep it up! big fan
Certainly applause & bravo but on the other hand - taking NOthing of flicker or flame from the QUALITY of this impressive essay - are their ANY more points to battles against Members of he Sons(men) of the Skywalker family & perhaps even Yoda, bc the victim is virtually predetermined against any of them?? On another note of suggestion. Have You ever done Starkiller versus young OR old Ben Kenobi?
Something I feel was neglected here is that Koon is a Master Jedi, so I believe he could and would find even the smallest opening and Force Lightning would seal the fight in Koon's favor.
His lightning isnt powerful enough to destroy it. Not just any force lightning can kill vader. Palpatine's did, but it is the most powerful force lightning ever.
Jensaarai1, what do you think about Darth Vader vs Assajj Ventress ? I know in an animation Anakin overcome Assajj but that was before she overcome Windu's Vaapad
Great Vid, I believe the Majority of us knew who the victor would be, but a more detailed analysis is all ways appreciated. For your next one............may I suggest Quinlan Vos vs. Asajj Ventress at first Glance this fight may seem lopsided but after his missions throughout the Clone War and his training under Dooku as an acolyte Vos improved by a great margin, arguably enough to give ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi a good fight, which Asajj Ventress has already done multiple times so I really think that Quinlan Vos and Asajj Ventress would be a Closer fight than what many might think.
***** Ah I see, well I hope that once you get a few more VS. vids not involving Asajj Ventress you can revisit the topic and make yet another fine video. Then may I suggest................Dass Jennir vs. Aurra Sing, despite his modest claims of being an "Average" jedi in every aspect he has consistently proven himself to be a fairly "Above Average" jedi throughout his Journeys in "Dark Times" "Blue Harvest" "A Spark Remains" etc. whereas Aurra Sing's confirmed kills (Peerce, J'mikel, Sharad Hett) and confirmed defeats against various jedi (A'Sharad Hett, Aayla Secura, Jax Pavan etc.) has consistently placed her as a skilled but marginally "Above Average" duelist . Aurra Sing and Dass Jennir are also similar in how they show an obvious preference for Blasters when lightsabers do not prove feasible. I know that Dass Jennir does not have the exposure that Aurra Sing does and that perhaps many people on here would fail to recognize him, but he has proven to be among the most prolific EU Characters not associated with the main characters of the prequels, because of his unique story. This fight may strike you as unusual and possibly redundant, but its ultimately a fight between two opponents that are not insanely powerful and not ridiculously weak, and two opponents whose only REAL exposure stemmed from the EU, and two opponents that have two very different goals but ultimately add to the varied personages in the EU and the SW universe as a whole.
22:26 But don't forget when Vader surpassed pre suit Vader he learned to adapt to his suit more he knew pretty much all forms of lightsaber combat through the three ring areas and he really seemed like he had a obsession with killing Jedi in the comics in a conversation with the emperor Darth Sidious. Also in Rogue one he deals with multiple rebel forces with blasters and it to him looked easy like almost opening a bottle with a bottle opener, battering one of them and like stabbing and cutting rebel soldiers like butter but far more easy and destroying them like the worthless trash they were to him, with badass efficiency.
Hey guys! I've heard a quote attributed to Darth Vader about a fight not being a goal unto itself, etc... Could someone tell me that quote and tell me where it's from? Thanks!
Hi Jensaarai, I just was wondering where you get your pictures from (the ones lifted from the comics) as I would love to make my own Vs series but I have no idea where to get them from. Thanks in advance!
Have you ever made a versus series with Plo Koon vs Kit Fisto??? I would really like to see that. I think it would be very interesting, I could even expect it to be a tie!
Hey Jensaarai1, I have been writing this loads of times, but I haven't got ay answer about it, but could you do a match up between Luke Skywalker and Mace Windu. According to me they are perhaps the greatest duelists of all time.
+Revanxxx1 I always just call him Dark Anakin. Really in terms of the story and metaphorically, Anakin makes his final and permanent plunge into darkness once he is put into the suit. Before that there was always a chance that he couldve been redeemed somehow. After the suit though, it would be all but impossible and even his son Luke would only barely accomplish this.
yea Vader rarely unleashes his full power, so if koon can somehow make it too costly for vader to go all out, and i think he very well can, in combination with his superior agility and speed, his formidable lightsaber skills and his force abilities, then he has a greater chance f winning than vader does. i find this to be very similar to Phoenix Exalt's Obi Wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader. if Vader has no opportunity to unleash his full power, then koon will most likely win. he is a formidable lightsaber duelist and can contend with vader in the Force, plus, he is also more agile and faster than vader.
Love the videos, Jensaarai , you and GreyJedi are my heroes. Quick question, I've always heard the stat that Vader was about 80% as powerful as Palpatine after his injuries on Mustafar, when he could've have easily grown to become twice as powerful had he not been injured. Still other sources sometimes make it feel like his power in the force could be either greater or lesser than that depending on what year the source was written. Even George Lucas stated in a ROTS featurette interview, that Vader "shouldnt be a great fighter, because at that point he was more machine than man" ... a statement that I find to be really at odds with how he was portrayed in the EU and even in his two fights with Luke in the movies. I guess my question is why all the contradictions? Furthermore, was it his actual force potential that was limited from the injuries? This is what I assumed since he lost a few limbs and ergo would probably lose a lot of tissue that was otherwise connected to the force.
This was an incredibly enjoyable analysis - even though some is derivative (as you stated very graciously). Well done. Thank you!! I love Master Plo. He and Ahsoka Tano, Obi-wan and Yoda are my top 4 Fav Jedi. But, I might give the edge to Vader, too. Though, I have much more respect for Master Plo's general philosophy and approach to all things. Thanks again!!!
i remember a certain old SW game called jedi power battles which was depicting EP1 and plo was 1 of the playable chars in it.... he was jsut a slow powerhouse and fighting darth maul with him alone was total pain xxD
Even do Plo Koon is Dead, I want to See his Ghost as a Mentor to Ahsoka in Rebels, Since Plo Koon is Filoni's Favorite Jedi & Ahsoka is like Filoni's Baby.
No. She is not. She was created by Lucas. Not Filoni. You saw what we got from Filoni when Lucas isn’t involved. Lucas and his daughter made TCW, Filoni just directed the episodes.
Plo Koon isn’t a force ghost. He couldn’t be. It was solely Yoda and Kenobi for the first time in millennia for a reason…. Qui-Gon taught them. That “power” was lost to history. Only few actually know about it at all. Plo Koon died before Qui-Gon even finished Yoda’s teaching it, Obi-Wan’s as well. They didn’t even know you COULD retain consciousness after death until just about a year before the end of the clone wars. More like 6 months.
@@dazdavis7896 what is your opinion on mace windu vs count dooku?
@@kagamiuchihathebeast5862Ik you ain’t ask me but dooku would win imo vaapad wouldn’t work well against him and shatter point doesn’t work in a duel
@@giovanniciccone1323 good
I love the music on this one! The imagery used for Vader's sections was also excellent. Well worth the wait.
I love Plo-Koon. He's easy my favorite character in all of Star Wars. I always loved the Dorians as a species and Koon easily was a fascinating character that I wished the actual prequel trilogy delved more into. At least, the 08 Clone Wars series did him some justice.
But yeah, I totally agree with you. Vader is an utter powerhouse. And while sharing a few points of striking similarities, Vader's proactive approach to cover his weaknesses more, plus the raw power/manipulation of the Force unfortunately is too much for Koon to handle.
But I will say this. You are by far one of the most detailed RUclipsrs. It's really refreshing to see someone who pulls so much from a variety of sources, even if you have issues with them(especially with Plo-Koon, as I know quite a lot about him). So overall, good job.
Many other RUclipsrs who do geek culture analysis on franchises should be more like you.
Are you..... me?
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I'd love to see Darth Vader vs. Anakin Skywalker
I think I saw that. Vader won. I didn't like the verdict, but i also couldn't dispute it. Jensaarai1 might actually have done it.
Christopher Sandidge that was pre-suit Darth Vader vs full suit Darth Vader. Which is a verdict I personally disagree with.
Anakin stomps. Vader struggles with Luke while Anakin is as powerful as Sidious or Yoda if not more powerful.
@@supremeleaderren7681 yeah but it was luke who is supposed to be one of the strongest jedi and vader was much older then. Also he was hesitant because it was his son. Anakin had not reached near his full potential and vader reached 80 percent of that potential which was more than anakin at the time. Idk man I see where your coming from but I give it to vader
@@cashhenson5198 "it was luke who is supposed to be one of the strongest jedi" Luke was weaker than most prequal trilogy jedi at this point. I don't see how he was one of the most powerful jedi.
"and vader was much older then" Vader was far more powerful than his ANH version at this point.
"Also he was hesitant because it was his son." On what basis? He went all out at. It's confirmed by ROTJ comic.
"Anakin had not reached near his full potential and vader reached 80 percent of that potential which was more than anakin at the time." Vader didn't reach eighty percent of his own potential. He was weaker than than Anakin. It's confirmed by multiple quotes.
Secret to beating darth Vader get mad and swing as hard as you can until you cut off his hand.
Very nice man.
***** I totally disagree Kyle Katarn could totally defeat Cin Drallig
Christian Navarro Keep in mind that rank does not have to do with anything as far as skill goes. Anakin Skywalker was supposed to be the greatest force user and most skilled Jedi of his era.
Brennan T Kyle Katarn only fights "Dark Jedi" not underlings of a sith lord
EvanNova95 sooo...are we gonna see a certain collaboration between your good self and Jensaarai1 in the future, regarding Kyle Katarn going toe to toe with Darth Vader?
This matchup got me thinking... Anakin Skywalker vs. Plo Koon would actually be quite interesting.
i personally think Plo Koon
@@staceyhaynes9731 no Anakin would destroy koon
@@theamazingnobody1082plo would destroy ATOTC and CW up till mortis,after that anakin begins to accelerate in power and surpasses plo
Plo is third most powerful Jedi after mace and yoda before anakin and obi wan surpass him
50 minutes?!..If we're going to do this, I'm going to need a cup of coffee.
Why are all Jedi always "one of the best". Everyone obviously can't be the best.
He really only uses the must powerful, or prominent jedi and sith in these battles.
SteakOnSpear Most of the Jedi sucked (same with the Sith), just look at how most of them got slaughtered by mere droids in Episode 2
Once again you have done a good job Jensaarai.
1)Darth Sidious vs Abeloth...
2)The entire Lost Tribe of the Sith vs Darth Kryat's entire One Sith
3)Darth Bane vs Grand Lord Darish Vol
4)Darth Sidious vs a resurrected Darth Kryat
5)Darth Kryat vs Mace Windu
6)Satele Shan vs Darth Kryat
Sidious, while being the most powerful Sith Lord ever, has nothing on Abeloth. Sidious would be on par, or slightly weaker than Son. The combined power of Son and Daughter couldn't even hold out against Abeloth. How in the hell would Sidious take on Abeloth and live?
STR33TSofJUST1C3 I agree with you. If Darth Sidious and Darth Caedus together might match Abeloth. Luke Skywalker would not have defeated Abeloth without Darth Kryat fighting with him.
Geoffrey Edgson That last duel in the Maw wasn't the only time Luke fought Abeloth. They had a couple battles. Luke got Abeloth retreating with her tail between the legs, even when the Lost Sith conspired against Luke and his son. He still defeated her. But it's true that Luke only killed (not just defeated) Abeloth with Krayt's help.
I think there's a big difference there. During the Clone Wars Anakin Skywalker faced Darth Tyranus as an equal on Tatooine, Naboo (twice), and Zygerria, before killing him on the Invisible Hand. Luke became the most powerful Force user in the Galaxy from when he defeated Darth Sidious in a duel, and remainder at the level even after he and Darth Kryat killed Abeloth.
Logistically, I agree that Luke had beaten Abeloth on several occasions, but she only created more avatars and returned to the galaxy. defeating Abeloth and killing her are two different things. On the other hand, this note could be used to argue that Darth Sidious could defeat Abeloth in one of her avatar's, but could not kill her. In your earlier statement, did you mean kill Abeloth or simply defeat her when you state Darth Sidious could not survive an encounter with her?
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Actualy son and daughter defeated abeloth multiple times as a part of the cycle to hold her in prison.Their death was what eventualy freed her pretty much.
As a LOTR and Star Wars nut, as well as a longstanding fan of your channel and voice, with Vader and Plo Koon being among my favourite characters... this video is extremely satisfying to say the least.
Vader is the victor, good choice. Here's a request, can you do someone with Nihilus?
***** How about something like Sidious VS Vitiate?
***** He isn't over powered, it's just that his force drain is a huge issue, but its useless against people who are immune to it. Like Anakin, Dooku, Luke and Sidious, they have also shown the ability to negate force drain. People have tried to say the force drain is different to what the dark reaper does, but no source says it is any different, so really that is just guessing. But seeing as Nihilus isn't particularly impressive in anything else, well lifting his ship was done on a planet which is a force nexus. They would beat Nihilus.
Sidious would win grey Jedi already did a video on it
Baldvin Jónsson evannoca95 did exactly that
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It took Meetra Surik (The Jedi Exile), plus 2 of her companions to defeat Nihilus, and that was only after Visas Marr severed her force connection with Nihilus, weakening him.
It's safe to say he's overpowered, considering what he's shown to be capable of. Note that Jensaarai has also never included Sidious or Luke in his videos. They are also overpowered. He's good at not including OP characters in his videos.
"Probably a good call." LOL.
Plo Koon was a cool character -- I wish we saw more of him in the Clone Wars series. And I would put him up there as one of the few Jedi who would have a chance at defeating Darth Vader in battle.
One thing I'd like to see in future versus matches is some sort of system that rates chances -- ie, Vader would have the advantage, but if they fought ten times, roughly how many times would Kloon be expected to win?
It's good to know that you've actually updated your knowledge on Plo Koon and Vader's abilities. That way, it wouldn't have been "just your opinion," like you say in almost every Versus video.
I had no doubt that Vader was going to win, but I thought the match would be very close.
This review was really good. I kind of wished Plo Koon would've won though. But it is just his opinion and his research of the two characters. I wish he would do some with Darth Malak and more with Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma. I would love to see how Exar Kun would match up against Mace Windu or Darth Malak. Luke Skywalker against Darth Malgus or even Darth Maul. Count Dooku against Ulic Qel-Droma and maybe even handicap versus matches where two Jedi take on one Sith or two Sith take on one Jedi. Love your reviews Jensaarai1! Keep'em coming.
I have a recommendation for your future videos. From your previous vader descriptions it was obvious to me that you would give vader the win. As a result i am no longer convinced that your "vs" videos are about fights with uncertain outcomes. Your fights seem to be more about HOW the fight would go as opposed to WHO would win.
Therefore i suggest that at the end of each fight you give a ratio of expected outcomes. E.G "vader beats koon 7/10 fights" This allows you to be more detailed about the HOW, which seems to be your main focus.
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You're jumping the gun there. That's not necessarily true yet. All we know is that they're prepared to, and most likely will retcon much of the EU, not necessarily all of it. They'd literally have to needlessly go out of their way to get rid of all of the EU.
I understand you quite well ManofChrist101 and quite agree with you. vader has almost immunity to lose on these vs the videos here.
Grand Master Yoda "vader has almost immunity to lose on these vs the videos here."
What on Earth are you trying to say?
He means that vader almost always wins in every single battle
Sorry he means that vader almost always loses every single battle
Plo Koon has a variant of Force Lightning called Electric Judgement, I see that as being his Ace in the hole. If he can use it against Vader, he might be able to disable Vader's Prosthetics.
Force lightning is not some end all be all. Do you really think the guy that knows how to handle a lightsaber better than anyone else in Star Wars doesn’t know how to BLOCK. Like we’ve literally seen him block more powerful force users’ lightning attacks multiple times before. Like Dooku’s. Yeah he wasn’t in a cybernetic suit yet of course, but he still used his lightsaber to do that more than once. He’d do the same thing to Plo. That’s why anyone that thinks Sidious would dogwalk him is an idiot. It solely depends on whether or not Sidious could slip a blast by him, catch him off guard. If he could, game over; if NOT, Vader kills him.
surprisingly Kit Fisto has been formerly named by Lucasfilm ATD as the most powerful Jedi,stronger than even Jabba the hutt
Not believing til I see source. Goge Lukas already said Jabba was the chosen one. It's canon idiot
***** you know I wouldn't kid about something like this
***** im glad I clarified this for you and you now agree that Kit Fisto was the most powerful Jedi ,as said by Lucas Films ATD
your all wrong watto is just to beast for even fisto or jabba
Red Pyro Bullshit. "I see Jabba as a reflection of myself. That is why he is the most powerful jedi ever." -Goge Lukas 1963 Check yourself before you wreck yourself. It's Cannon ideot
Gnost Dural vs Plo Koon? Who is the better Kel For master? Need I remind you jensaarai that you haven't done a versus video on Gnost yet. Both Jedi are highly skilled. Thus a good versus video I presume?
This is gonna seem like a really weird idea, but... Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Vader. The old vs new. Was Skywalker a more formidable combatant under the Jedi Order, with his full command of the Force and unhindered body? Or does Vader's experience and forced adaptations to his form make him superior to his former abilities.
Anakin Skywalker
Lightsaber Training:
Both Form V variants "Shien and Djem So" became the favored fighting styles of Anakin Skywalker as a Jedi, because their aggressive and strength-oriented fighting methods fit well with his arrogant, confrontational personality type. He also studied Form VI "Niman" to develop his skills with dual-blades. During his first confrontation with Dooku he was forced to draw heavily on his Force-abilities to match Dooku's speed and precision, tiring quickly. Dooku's far more energy efficient Makashi style won the day, and Skywalker lost his arm when he opened himself up. The aggressive Form V encourages practitioners to actively attempt to dominate their foes, and as the war progressed, Skywalker drew on his anger and rage with mounting frequently, sliding ever closer to the dark side of the Force. When confronting Dooku for the last time, Skywalker relied heavily on these emotions to fuel his offense, demonstrating both overwhelming strength and bewildering speed as he bashed through Dooku's precision defense and sliced off both of the Count's hands before brutally executing him.
When Anakin Skywalker embraced the dark side and was rechristened Darth Vader, he maintained his Form V mastery, but utilized it in an even more brutal fashion, becoming a frightening opponent. However, his aggression became his fatal flaw, as he would become so controlled by it that it fucked with his judgement. During his battle with Obi-Wan on Mustafar, Kenobi, similar to his final duel with General Grievous, would utilize his "wait them out" philosophy, relying entirely on the defensive and energy-conservative moves of soresu until the opponent became frustrated or fatigued, causing them to leave sloppy openings in their offense that Kenobi could then exploit. Vader's frustration and arrogance eventually caused him to make a tactically fatal decision, and resulted in his defeat and severe mutilation.
Force Abilites:
The fact that Skywalker was born with the highest known midi-chlorian count in galactic history and was considered to be the Chosen One leads to various conclusions about his Force potential and power. Although extremely young and having less than perfect training (due to his late age joining the Order), Skywalker was one of the most powerful living Jedi. However, Anakin's focus was given more towards improving his lightsaber skills than his Force abilities. As such, while Anakin's raw power was immense, his knowledge of the Force was limited to fairly straightforward techniques.
Skywalker was skilled in the use of telekinesis able to lift heavy objects with minimal effort. During his duel with Asajj Ventress on Yavin 4, he easily deflected a large pillar back at Ventress when she hurled it at him and immediately afterwards he used the Force to block her Force Push without even slowing down. He was also skilled at Force Jump, and was able to leap massive distances. Skywalker was also capable of a powerful Force Push;[52] however, it should be noted that despite having a stronger connection to the Force than Obi-Wan Kenobi, his Force Push was unable to overcome Kenobi's during their duel on Mustafar.[10] He was also skilled at Jedi Mind Tricks.[234] However, Skywalker also developed a habit of using the Force Choke power, a sign of who and what he would later become. Skywalker was also proficient in the use of Force speed, able to use it to increase the efficiency of his lightsaber skills.[86] Anakin also had an affinity for the use of Force visions, such as when he predicted the deaths of his mother and wife.[10][11] He also possessed a keen Force sense, such as when he sensed the assassination attempt on his future wife. During the Zillo Beast incident, Anakin was able to conjure a Force barrier with the assistance of Yoda and Aayla Secura. During the Battle of Mon Calamari, Anakin was able to use the Force to rip apart the support bindings of the planetary scanner, toppling the building over.
Chosen Weapon:
As per Form V weapon specifications, the lightsaber had a solid casing and a heavily shrouded blade emitter. The beveled emitter was designed to designate separate facets of the blade for either offensive or defensive purposes. The lightsaber hilt included a ridged hand grip, as Djem So required its users to maintain a solid grip on the hilt. It was also later modified to allow it to operate underwater. The focusing lense was a blue adaegan crystal.
Darth Vader
Lightaber Training:
Initially after gaining the suit, Vader was forced to rely on his newly enhanced strength and reach, utilizing a clumsy method that was comprised of little more than stiffly executed vertical strikes that served to wear down his opponent. This initial method was seen to elements of Soresu and Ataru bladework in conjunction with his clumsy Djem So strikes. However, Vader was able to overcome this limitation fairly quickly, developing a refined version of Djem So that continued to include Ataru and Soresu elements, but also added Makashi and Juyo to the mix. In fact, by the time of his first visit to Kashyyyk, Vader had incorporated aspects of all combat forms into his fighting style - even the highest and most dangerous ones.
Rather than attempting to fight through the bulky and heavy armor, Vader fought with it, utilizing the armor's weight and his powerful prosthetics to provide his blows with incredible force, while relying on the main articulation points at the elbows and wrists for precision.With this new form, Vader regained some of his old agility, and his bladework became brutally effective. He never utilized anything less than a killing blow, and his swordplay demonstrated extraordinary precision, unpredictability, and speed, notwithstanding the two-handed grip he typically favored. Even his most simplistic moves contained enough strength to nearly disarm his opponents. The additional weight and bulk of Vader's cybernetics and armor made engaging in Ataru-esque acrobatics considerably more difficult than it had been, and he typically refrained from making use of such maneuvers. He was however, still fully capable of performing such acrobatics when pressed.
Vader proved able to apply this personalized variant in many ways, sometimes opting to fight one-handed, relying on precision and economy of movement, but thanks to the added strength his prosthetics afforded him, he maintained a great deal of power. When forced onto the defensive, Vader would fight with a two-handed grip, elbows pressed tightly to his sides with the blade held straight out in front of him, manipulating it deftly with his wrists only. This method proved effective for protecting his vulnerable chest mounted control panel, but, at least in his early applications of it, it was not as effective at protecting his limbs.Vader apparently learned his lesson from his duel with Kenobi, learning how to control his emotions when in combat and finding a way to call upon calculated bursts of the dark side while not being blinded by emotions running amok, fighting with determination and relentlessness rather than rage.
Force Abilites:
Because his body had been severely burned on Mustafar, Darth Vader was thought to have lost much of his Force potential, although he nonetheless retained an incredibly high midi-chlorian count. Darth Vader made extensive use of both the Force Choke and Force Crush abilities.The Dark Lord also possessed skill in the use of Tutaminis, such as when he absorbed several blaster bolts from Han Solo's blaster on Bespin. He was also capable of using Force deflection to redirect blaster bolts, sometimes even at whomever fired them.It should be noted that Darth Vader, despite being a powerful Sith Lord, was rarely seen generating Force lightning. This was due to the extensive presence of cybernetic augmentations in his body as well as the presence of the electronic life-support system in his suit. Any attempt by Vader to generate Force Lightning carried the great risk of causing these systems to short-circuit, possibly to deadly effect. To Compensate for this Vader used an ability known as Kinetite. It involved molding "Force energized lightning" into a sphere of restrained kinetic energy which could be thrown at an enemy. Instead of burning or electrocuting it's target like most forms of Force lightning, it acted as a solid projectile. However he only used this abilty once and was in close proximity to the Kaiburr crystal (a force augmented artifact).
Chosen weapon:
Darth Vader's Lightsaber, simply put is a power tool. Following a heavy duty design typical of Form V specialists, it featured a thick, ridged handgrip, a throttle style activator, forward mounted adjustment knobs, and a beveled emitter shroud. Mechanically it utilized a high-output diatium power cell and a red-hued synthetic crystal as the focusing lense.
The ironic thing about this weapon is that at first Darth Vader used Palpatines lightsaber as the model for the lightsaber Vader was trying to build. However, Vader considered his master's weapon to be an antique, and sought to create a more personalized weapon with more ballast. Wishing to impress Palpatine, Vader attempted to create a novel design, but the resulting weapon was little more than a black-alloy version of his first Jedi lightsaber. Due to the size of his mechanical hands, Vader was forced to make the grip considerably thicker and longer than his original lightsaber.Being a patron of the arts, Palpatine designed an elegant weapon with a high level of craftsmanship, clearly influenced by the Sith Lord's love of antiquity. The body of the lightsaber was fashioned from nigh-indestructible phrik alloy while the flat emitter was composed of aurodium.The whole of the weapon possessed a refined and elegant electrum finish resulting in a beautiful and almost golden in appearence. So what began as an attempt to surpass the designs of a beautiful display of craftsmanship resulted in a weapon so inelegant it verged on ungainly.
While there is little doubt that Anakin is a very well rounded fighter, he is still very arrogant and has trouble planning ahead as shown because he always cuts loose at a moments notice. Also, even though Anakin had the highest known midi-chlorian count making his sensitivity to the force incredable, he never delved deeper into his abilites making his knowleadge of the force painfully straitforward. If he had devoted more of his time to studying his force abilites, Anakin Skywalker would have been the most powerful force sensitive in the universe.
Darth Vader on the other hand was forced to rebuild his technique from the ground up after his mutilation, and as a result, his force abilites were almost on par with his skill as a lightsaber duelist. Yes, Vader will never have the magnitude he could have had, but he knows how to make what he does have count.
Darth Vader Wins.
I think Anakin vs Vader would looks like Luke vs Vader
Agree on that one too Jensaarai. Vader beats pre conversion Anakin.
This versus video is excellently well done as it demonstrates how a fighting form can be used in different ways
I've been kind of interested about Quinlan Vos and how he holds up in a versus battle. He seems to have a impressive mish-mash skill set as a lightsaber duelist, mostly prominent during the Clone Wars (with a decent fight count against Dark Jedi to boot) while some of his force abilities that he is most known for (reading images from objects for example) aren't something that is useful in actual combat (though I admit I have been rusty on my knowledge of Prequel Era SW comics so Vos probably has more to the plate).
...I think Vos Vs Darth Maul would be interesting, as while Vos is a fast learner as a duelist, Maul has practically trained his entire life to be one of the best Sith duelist machine of his time.
Jensaarai- You do an excellent job with these VS. videos anyone posting anything other than THANK YOU has been consumed by the dark side of being an a hole
THANK YOU
Vader could deflect lightning with his hands. He did this in TFU and TFU 2 against Starkiller.
I love your videos. An suggestion i would have would be Nihlus vs Darth Malak, or Bastila vs Darth Traya. Keep up the great work.
Ok what if it was Darth Malak vs Darth Caedus
Hmmm... I wouldn't be so sure about this one. I think they are definitely equals as lightsaber duelists, but I dont think Vader has that much of an edge in force abilities, especially given Koons electric judgement. I think Koon would play this fight a lot more carefully than some people apparently think. He was one of the best tacticians in the order. Could Vader best Koon? Of course. But would it cost him his life? Probably. I don't think either of them are dumb enough to make this a battle to the death. I know that the point of these Versus Videos is to have a battle to the death, but I think in this case they would both know each others styles well and know that they were equals in lightsaber combat so they wouldn't waste theor energy on a long drawn out slugging match. I think Koon lets Vader think he has a massive edge in force abilities and then when Vader becomes a bit vulnerable Koon shoots some electric judgement Vaders way. This would definitely take Vader by surprise (There is no evidence Vader knows of Plos ability with this), and even if he defends against it, it would break Vaders concenration enough so that Koon could deal a decisive blow either with the lightsaber or with a series of force pushes and electric judgement incorportated into his lightsaber sequences. These characters are both tanks who could stay in the fight for the long haul if they wanted, but because of that ironically I think this fight would end up being a short one. Not because of Plos skills necessarily (Vader is a bit more powerful in my opinion), but because of Koons tactical prowess.
Vader has tutaminis and is suit has electrical insulators to prevent lightning of Koon's level of getting anywhere. vader is too smart to overextend himself. I think it's more likely that Koon escapes (barely) and vader decides not to persue.
Actually you’re quite wrong Darth Sidious built in a weakness to lightning so he could stop Vader in case he tried to overthrow him so Koon will kill him with lightning
@@Ridhwanullah yeah and that is why Vader managed to Tank the force lightning of starkiller.
I think Darth Vader is a better lightsaber duelist. I'm I wrong.
@@joshuakei8925 While electric judgement is not as powerful as regular sith lightning, it is more powerful than blaster bolts. Vader has never been credited with the ability to repel anything other than blaster bolts, so his only defense is his lightsaber. and it's doubtful his insulators can protect him from Koon's attacks.
Hey jensaarai,
I have an interesting idea for your versus series. Instead of only do light saber duellists vs light saber duellists, do a shooter vs shooter. For example, have Jango Fett vs Boba Fett, father vs son deal. Or take a clone/bounty hunter such as Commander Cody vs Bossk or IG-88. Or have a Jedi/Sith with a shooter, like your group versus, that would be awesome. Well you get the idea. I think this idea would be very interesting and a good change of pace and well I'm just curious on who would win in a shootout.
Galen Marek vs Starkiller clone.
Darth Vader vs Anakin Skywalker.
Galen Marek or Starkiller clone vs Luke Skywalker ( Jedi Grand Master).
And finally, Luke Skywalker (Grand Master) vs Yoda.
the last two are a curb-stomps for luke
OK. Then maybe, Dark Empire Luke?
Leon Ratchet thats still kinda a curbstomp cause hes got the power of luke still but maybe not cause he lacks the training
Pre Dark Empire, post Return of The Jedi? That' the last thingto say.
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Definitely agree with this one Jensaarai. Koon is powerful but no match in the end for Vader.
can you do a versus video of characters when they were younger like Anakin at the beginning of the Clone Wars versus Obi-Wan during the Naboo Crisis?
Since you seem to have no aversion in continuing to use Vader in your videos, please do Vader vs. Bane, or at least give me a reason why you won't do that match-up. I've suggested it on most of your recent videos, and you don't have an impossibly high amount of comments on your videos, so I'd be surprised if you never saw any of my Bane vs. Vader suggestions.
Plus, I'm pretty sure you'd be the first to do a proper versus video including Darth Bane. If not Bane vs. Vader, just please include Bane in a versus video with an opponent you see fit.
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Hooray! And I completely understand. I'm not the only one giving suggestions, plus you have your own ideas as well.
I look forward to seeing Bane, and maybe Bane vs. Vader in a video of yours hopefully in the near future!
***** In my opinion Exar Kun would be better opponent for Darth Bane
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In some ways, Exar Kun would definitely be the better opponent. The most obvious is that they were both the Dark Lord of the Sith in their respective eras, while Vader was not; he was always Sidious' apprentice technically.
Though that's pretty much the main similarity between Bane and Kun that Vader and Bane don't also share.
Vader and Bane actually have more in common. They both are the exact same height I believe, and along the same page, are physically intimidating; they both are some of the most preeminent Djem So practitioners of all the Sith; and they both have dealt with suits/armor that acted as both a blessing and a curse for them.
Oh, by "better opponent," do you mean you think Vader's too powerful for Bane, or not powerful enough to reasonably go toe-to-toe with him?
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I think Bane is too powerfull for Vader. Even Jensaarai said in sobe comment that Bane is stronger then Vader. I don't see any sense to make duel where we already know who will win :)
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What are you basing these statements off of? Pretty sure it's all mere conjecture on your part.
Bane lost to Zannah only because she used her OP dark side tendrils, which Bane never had any experience against, and still managed to almost kill her while she was using that technique. And in that duel, she had to RESORT to that. She was getting her ass beat by Bane. In an earlier "duel" between the two of them, Bane was unarmed, and Darth Zannah couldn't defeat him.
And I wouldn't be so sure that Vader's the better duelist. In a duel with his master, Kas'im, who was considered by the Sith to be the best duelist of their era, and possibly the greatest ever, Bane was outdueling him, until Kas'im resorted to a variant of Ataru by splitting his double-bladed lightsaber into 2 separate lightsabers, which caught Bane off-guard since Kas'im kept this style secret from all his apprentices. And Bane continued to get better too. His duel with Kas'im was not even half-way through Bane's story.
We've seen some Sith vs Sith duels, but how about a Jedi vs Jedi match?
I suggest Obi Wan Kenobi (Ep. III) vs Kyle Katarn
That would be epic!
My bet is, fanboy bias aside, Kyle Katarn would probably win. I'd of course love to hear Jensaarai1, EvanNova95, or GreyJedi91's opinions on it though.
TinyTorah oh yeah, i'm pretty sure Katarn would win, but yes, it would be really awesome to have the experts review it and give us their input, they often surprise me in their in depth analysis of it all.
Katarn is a bad ass, but Kenobi would put up a good fight. The problem with that match is that, while they are both suckers for punishment, excellent duelists, and even have similar lightsabers, Katarn is better with force abilities.
Zach Clapp I agree, and even when i thought about that match up, I was pretty sure Katarn was gonna win, so today I thought about what a fight would look like between Katarn and Ep. III Anakin...i think that would be even better, and probably a more even match in many ways...
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Hmm. I actually think Katarn would win even easier against ROTS Anakin/Vader. While he was technically more skilled and more powerful than Kenobi in ROTS, he was too haughty, and fell to his own hubris. If this is the Anakin/Vader we'd pit against someone as experienced as Katarn, I don't think Anakin/Vader would stand a chance.
Yeah, was pretty much betting on vader from the beginning. :P
While this is awesome. I wonder if you can make a Anakin skywalker vs someone, because it would be cool to see how diffrent he is to vader.
Anakin vs Cade Skywalker
I love these videos. You just earned a new sub :) Nice work.
But how did Darth Malgus use force lighting with his cybernetic augmentation then.
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+Jensaarai1 Like Jensaarai1 said, Malgus' cybernetics were almost entirely around his face and chest, mending the wounds to his respiratory system from the grenade-boomage that tore up his throat. He needed them to breathe, not to walk.
NightWolfXVI I never said he was, dumb fuck you asked a dumbass question how come malgus could use force lightning, obviously he never got his hands cut off
anthony matagi No, that was an intelligent question dumbass stop being stupid.
Also a Kel dor's ability to see twice as far in dim light was not mentioned in the profile either. This ability would make tactical decisions about the battle thought far more in advance if Plo koon decided to use acrobatics to maneuver around Vader.
I wonder if Vader could simply crush Plo Koon's Breathing mask with telekinesis
If Vader can do that Plo Koon can do that with Vader cybernetics
He would have to break through koons force shield to do it, which he has more than enough power to do it i think.
freesid stf You have to be vastly more powerful than someone to be able to break through there force sheild unless there injured or something like that. so no vader owuldnt be able to just break through koon's sheild
banethesithari Vader in the EU has been shown to break through Force Barriers.
The Dark Lord of The Sith Yes but only with people who are far weaker than him such as cin drallig
I love that you are using Plo Koon now! Now Ki-adi mundi and I will scream like a little girl.
The irony of this duel - a sith that is unable to use force lightning against a jedi that has "shocking" skills for one of the jedi order :)
And coming to the end result - I believe they are actually equal - the same fighting skill, Vader has a better weapon while Plo Koon has (IMO) better physical feats and to force abilities - Vader is stronger while Plo Koon has better training and Electric Judgement that grants him also a few small points. And so I think that they would actually simply kill each other.
Love your videos
Any chance of:
Darth Krayt vs Dart Bane?
can darth vader lose to anyone in your opinion.... he wins every video you put him in despite him have much less flesh to "feel" the force with, his hastily and poorly made cybernetics and his need for pain killer just to move let alone do battle. i just feel you say these things then immediately downplay them. its.... confusing.. after i saw the last two involving vader i figured he was getting the win again. dont get me wrong.. i like the playlist. i just dont see myself watching the next vader one.
i know that. but t this point any video he puts vader in is auto win for vader. whats the point.
all valid. i just want to see vader challenged more often. someone who can draw or win. we all know vader can beast out the typical jedi masters. he spent his life purging jedi and being a boss.
brandon cawley he's won 2/3 of the videos jensaari put him in thats isnt exactly a ludicrous amount
It doesent matter how much "flesh" he has to feel the force, or Yoda-being so small would be weak in comparison. and as for the pain from his cybernetics, we know that Sith draw power from such things like Darth bane did from his orbelisk armor....and uhh..i think Vaders line aka Luke as well was extra special- dident he transform into "pure force" or somthing during the Vong war? anyway yah Vader wins,,exept against Luke,,and maby a trained Leia,,,oh and Palps himself but hes in a different league.
Vader can not be defeated. He is the chosen one. Yoda hoped in Luke just because it was his son, otherwise there was no hope for anyone to win against Vader and Palpatine. Nobody can beat Vader if the force is not on his side. Vader would win even against Exar Kun (and exar kun is not canon, even as Starkiller).
Another superb video my friend simply amazing
34:24 ... what the hell is that thing?
Don't worry. I'll still give your channel the automatic like. Would love to see this fight.
CAN YOU DO MACE WINDU VS COUNT DOOKU??
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You should still do it as no one won the fight.
"Plo Koon was renowned as one of the greatest swordmasters in the era..." that is what say about everyone. I find it becomes a bit meaningless. These guys gotta rank up and somehow I just dont get the impression that he is anything special.
DIGmusic7 bear in mind there are 10,000 Jedi knights operating at any one time. This means that even if you are in the top 100, which most members of the Jedi council would be, you’d be in the top 1%. Koon was at least top 20 of his time, probably more like top 10, meaning that though he wasn’t the absolute best duellist, he was without doubt one of the greatest of his era. Most of the characters that are used in verses series are of course ones which have been heavily featured, because those are the characters with enough info to form a set of statistics around. The most heavily featured Jedi are, for the most part, the most skilful Jedi, because those are the ones sent on the most interesting missions with the most interesting stories. You don’t hear much about your average rank-in-file Jedi Knight. This is why in so many versus videos the characters are described as ‘amongst the greatest whatever of his/her era’, simply because when compared to the sheer quantity of force users throughout the galaxy at any one time, they are indeed amongst best.
Do you consider Vader to be one of the top 10 strongest Sith lords?
#MrVegeta360 Hello! You have great debating skills...come checkout www.starwarsforums.org/ where there are tons of versus battles
Number two, behind only Palpatine, as cannon clearly states.
Even if you include the extended universe of star wars I would still put Vader in the top 10 though he would fall below 2 but only because of the serious disadvantages he has.
Lucas. Case closed.
In an interview he stated Vader post injury had about 80% of the power of Palpatine. Had he not been injured, he would have eventually become twice as powerful as either Palpatine or Yoda.
You got a subscriber for life! Ive just discovered you Jensaarai and have been watching your videos all week!
Obi-Wan Kenobi VS. Mace Windu
PLEASE!!
Finally someone else wants to see that everyone listen to this guy we need this NOW
Mace Windu.
Mace would win that battle
I could go on for hours about why Obi-Wan would win, but I'm far too tired at the moment. Anyway, Obi would win. Just my opinion.
Isaiah Hayes Mace Windu
Kyle Katarn vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi or Revan vs. Starkiller. Love to see either you, GreyJedi, or Evan do those two.
Yeah, I think we've had that conversation before. And I understand completely. Too many unknowns. But yeah, I'd love to see a video by you pitting those two against each other.
DARTH CAEDUS PLZZZZZZ
Aayla Secura vs Darth Talon the sexy Twi'lek deathmatch everyone's been waiting for! Well mostly just me, but still oldschool Jedi vs newschool sithlady would be pretty epic! Who will hold the title of deadliest and sexiest Twi'lek???
(17:23) Eeease
I now use this too much
@Jensaari1 dude i love your verses series i want you to do a verses fight with Revan that would be awesome ^^
Darth Vader wins. not even close.
Another great video, Jensaarai!
I really enjoyed it!
Jensaarai1, do you think you will ever use Pong Krell?
***** I'm happy to hear you will use him! But I agree he will be difficult to pair with because of his 2 double blades, but GG is a pretty good character to use against him. And, if I may ask, what was your opinion (if you watched it) of the Season 5 finale arc with Ahsoka?
***** I agree.
One thing I never understood when it came to Vader was why did he use cloning technology to produce new limps that would allow the force to flow through them.
My best guess is at the time of the Clone Wars it was impossible to clone Force Users, and even doing so with limbs would be impossible to do. However, after Mustafaar his nerve damage was so extensive that I wouldn't be surprised if it was impossible to mend the flesh without using cybernetics.
George Lucas didn't think about it
Could you do a versus episode with anakin skywalker as a jedi and not as a sith?
@Jensaarai1 Hi first of all big fan on your videos love watching them. But i am curious, I know you are mainly concerned with force sensitives but will we ever see match ups pitting someone who isnt but can more that well hold there own against a force sensitive? Like Grievous or maybe a mandalor? any way keep it up! big fan
Certainly applause & bravo but on the other hand - taking NOthing of flicker or flame from the QUALITY of this impressive essay - are their ANY more points to battles against Members of he Sons(men) of the Skywalker family & perhaps even Yoda, bc the victim is virtually predetermined against any of them?? On another note of suggestion. Have You ever done Starkiller versus young OR old Ben Kenobi?
Something I feel was neglected here is that Koon is a Master Jedi, so I believe he could and would find even the smallest opening and Force Lightning would seal the fight in Koon's favor.
His lightning isnt powerful enough to destroy it. Not just any force lightning can kill vader. Palpatine's did, but it is the most powerful force lightning ever.
Jensaarai1, what do you think about Darth Vader vs Assajj Ventress ? I know in an animation Anakin overcome Assajj but that was before she overcome Windu's Vaapad
I'm not very knowledgeable in terms of the EU, but perhaps Darth Bane vs Lumiya?
Another excellent breakdown, thank you for your work. :)
Do you think the new movies will retcon loft or fotj? btw great video:)
Great Vid, I believe the Majority of us knew who the victor would be, but a more detailed analysis is all ways appreciated.
For your next one............may I suggest Quinlan Vos vs. Asajj Ventress at first Glance this fight may seem lopsided but after his missions throughout the Clone War and his training under Dooku as an acolyte Vos improved by a great margin, arguably enough to give ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi a good fight, which Asajj Ventress has already done multiple times so I really think that Quinlan Vos and Asajj Ventress would be a Closer fight than what many might think.
***** Ah I see, well I hope that once you get a few more VS. vids not involving Asajj Ventress you can revisit the topic and make yet another fine video.
Then may I suggest................Dass Jennir vs. Aurra Sing, despite his modest claims of being an "Average" jedi in every aspect he has consistently proven himself to be a fairly "Above Average" jedi throughout his Journeys in "Dark Times" "Blue Harvest" "A Spark Remains" etc. whereas Aurra Sing's confirmed kills (Peerce, J'mikel, Sharad Hett) and confirmed defeats against various jedi (A'Sharad Hett, Aayla Secura, Jax Pavan etc.) has consistently placed her as a skilled but marginally "Above Average" duelist . Aurra Sing and Dass Jennir are also similar in how they show an obvious preference for Blasters when lightsabers do not prove feasible. I know that Dass Jennir does not have the exposure that Aurra Sing does and that perhaps many people on here would fail to recognize him, but he has proven to be among the most prolific EU Characters not associated with the main characters of the prequels, because of his unique story.
This fight may strike you as unusual and possibly redundant, but its ultimately a fight between two opponents that are not insanely powerful and not ridiculously weak, and two opponents whose only REAL exposure stemmed from the EU, and two opponents that have two very different goals but ultimately add to the varied personages in the EU and the SW universe as a whole.
Music from "the hobbit"?
22:26 But don't forget when Vader surpassed pre suit Vader he learned to adapt to his suit more he knew pretty much all forms of lightsaber combat through the three ring areas and he really seemed like he had a obsession with killing Jedi in the comics in a conversation with the emperor Darth Sidious. Also in Rogue one he deals with multiple rebel forces with blasters and it to him looked easy like almost opening a bottle with a bottle opener, battering one of them and like stabbing and cutting rebel soldiers like butter but far more easy and destroying them like the worthless trash they were to him, with badass efficiency.
Dude I love your music selections!
Hey guys! I've heard a quote attributed to Darth Vader about a fight not being a goal unto itself, etc... Could someone tell me that quote and tell me where it's from? Thanks!
Plo Koon is my favorite jedi :)
Hi Jensaarai, I just was wondering where you get your pictures from (the ones lifted from the comics) as I would love to make my own Vs series but I have no idea where to get them from. Thanks in advance!
Have you ever made a versus series with Plo Koon vs Kit Fisto???
I would really like to see that. I think it would be very interesting, I could even expect it to be a tie!
Not really. Fisto has a fatal weakness against single opponents due to the nature of Shii Cho.
Hey Jensaarai1, I have been writing this loads of times, but I haven't got ay answer about it, but could you do a match up between Luke Skywalker and Mace Windu. According to me they are perhaps the greatest duelists of all time.
Luke is over powered, plus I don't think his story line is finished developing him.
How about the Anakin Skywalker version of Darth Vader (Not Cyborg Vader) vs Plo Koon.
+Revanxxx1 I always just call him Dark Anakin. Really in terms of the story and metaphorically, Anakin makes his final and permanent plunge into darkness once he is put into the suit. Before that there was always a chance that he couldve been redeemed somehow. After the suit though, it would be all but impossible and even his son Luke would only barely accomplish this.
just curious but what do you think about karen traviss and her novels
Amazing Deatail on the Versus Series.
Great video man! Plo Koon is one of my favorites
where I'm not happy about this result. I do see why it happened (I'm just a hard core Koon fan)
yea Vader rarely unleashes his full power, so if koon can somehow make it too costly for vader to go all out, and i think he very well can, in combination with his superior agility and speed, his formidable lightsaber skills and his force abilities, then he has a greater chance f winning than vader does. i find this to be very similar to Phoenix Exalt's Obi Wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader. if Vader has no opportunity to unleash his full power, then koon will most likely win. he is a formidable lightsaber duelist and can contend with vader in the Force, plus, he is also more agile and faster than vader.
Most excellent I very much enjoyed listening to this while playing swtor....that was awesomeness
I really enjoy these. Keep 'em coming!
At 2:25 you said "Pulpatine"
Your orange juice has betrayed you my friend
It's treason then
Goooooooooood. The orange juice tastes. Gooood. ::Palpatine::
Darth Traya vs Darth Malak.
I've suggested this for a while, and I just think it would be a nice match-up.
Are you planning on doing Palpatine/Darth Sidious at all?
Love the videos, Jensaarai , you and GreyJedi are my heroes. Quick question, I've always heard the stat that Vader was about 80% as powerful as Palpatine after his injuries on Mustafar, when he could've have easily grown to become twice as powerful had he not been injured. Still other sources sometimes make it feel like his power in the force could be either greater or lesser than that depending on what year the source was written. Even George Lucas stated in a ROTS featurette interview, that Vader "shouldnt be a great fighter, because at that point he was more machine than man" ... a statement that I find to be really at odds with how he was portrayed in the EU and even in his two fights with Luke in the movies. I guess my question is why all the contradictions? Furthermore, was it his actual force potential that was limited from the injuries? This is what I assumed since he lost a few limbs and ergo would probably lose a lot of tissue that was otherwise connected to the force.
dude y in a star wars vs video, did you overlay lord of the rings music?
Random question but whats going on in clips starting at 15:12 who is that Vader is beating on and what did he do for him to bring up his wife?
Yeah, thanks just read them :D
two in a week this is the best week for this month.
Very good I liked it but could you do sora bulk vs Kyle katarn?
This was an incredibly enjoyable analysis - even though some is derivative (as you stated very graciously). Well done. Thank you!! I love Master Plo. He and Ahsoka Tano, Obi-wan and Yoda are my top 4 Fav Jedi. But, I might give the edge to Vader, too. Though, I have much more respect for Master Plo's general philosophy and approach to all things. Thanks again!!!
i remember a certain old SW game called jedi power battles which was depicting EP1 and plo was 1 of the playable chars in it.... he was jsut a slow powerhouse and fighting darth maul with him alone was total pain xxD
Hey can you do a video on lord Kas'im vs someone like obi wan, or some other jedi council member?
Hey can you do a video talking about what you think Disney will or wont include from the expanded universe in their new movies please?
Does anyone know where the picture at 33:19 of Vader choking multiple people at once is from?
Please do Darth Vader vs Darth Maul!
They already fought in the comics.
The cyborg Maul?
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Not according to "Darth Maul--Death Sentence." They say that Maul has become more powerful and much more dangerous.
Yeah I my mistake. I forgot they already fought in the comic but again, I have a better idea, Darth Malgus vs. Mace Windu.
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Well, Maul seems to have learned his lessons well since Naboo.
Plo Koon as a sith lord would be pretty interesting
Pre-Suit Vader vs. Mace Windu
Mace Windu no contest
You did see the movie right?
Peter Hanson They never fought, he practically backstabbed Windu
Peter Hanson dude that wasn't a fight, that was Skywalker taking a cheap shot.
Brian Rose I think it would be a good duel. But i think Windu would barely scrap over the line