I just donated to your Go Fund Me - you deserve it. It's amazing the hoops you guys were prepared to jump through to demonstrate the simple fact that most of us are aware of every day; that we live on a beautiful globe. It's such an obvious thing to most of us that we don't think of how we might demonstrate it to obstinate flat heads, but there are so many ways and you guys produced the evidence. CT, your weight demonstration doesn't get a lot of airplay but it is such a simple test with such significant implications. It seems to skim over the hard core flatheads but anything that requires a bit of actual research and study to understand usually does. Seeing Jeran and Witsit on TFE livestream acknowledging the truth of what they were seeing was a big deal. A true epiphany for them though only Jeran seems to be accepting the full implications of what he's seen. Although the cause of the whole thing was a bit silly, demonstrating the nature of the world to a group of reality deniers, I'm sure it was an amazing experience that made the whole thing worthwhile.
I downloaded the GPS data from the flight and loaded it into my Geo-Data Visualisation and Calculator App. This App allows me to make measurements on the GPS data: Calculated total dip angle: 103.25° Great Circle Distance: 6,212 nmi Flat Earth Distance: 20,503 nmi Globe mean Speed: 542.9 kt Flat Earth mean Speed: 1.792 kt Wow, this plane flew fast, almost Mach 0.95 mean speed! Must have had tail wind.
There are so many ways to corroborate the information. You can look at plane tracker apps at the time of your flight, you can probably cross reference weather data and check the cloud coverage, there might be a geostationary satellite that has pictures during the time of the flight and you can check the cloud formations. Once I was looking at the ISS live feed and got curious about the cloud coverage. Just so happened to be over the side of Earth that the Himawari-8 satellite hangs out at, so I checked and sure enough, everything matched up. Funny that!
@Critical Think. I love the shadows on the engine. They are really significant. I saw the same thing years ago when I made the Sydney to Santiago flight. You are obviously filming from the right hand side of the aircraft. At the start of the flight the right wing is illuminated and the shadows indicate the Sun to be on the right, so flying in a south(ish) direction. On approach the sun rises on the right, so flying north(ish). These directions are the opposite to flat erf doctrine. Perhaps QANTAS has to drug everyone, turn the plane around when it gets dark, hit the afterburners and go mach 9 to fly back past Sydney and over North America and, then turn around before sunrise to fly north again at normal cruise speed so the Sun rises in the correct side of the aircraft. That sounds do-able doesn't it. Maybe a follow up video just focusing on the shadows and the direction of the Sun.
@mrxmry3264 That would seem to be the point of my comment. The only way flerfs can explain the actual Sydney to Santiago flight (and return) is to make up imaginary aircraft. Of course you could manage it without doing Mach 9. All you need to do is drug everyone on the plane and keep them out for the 30 hour flight needed of flat erf. That does not align with the scheduled flight time so you need to change everyone's watch to hide the extra time. But then making calls to family and friends to let them know you have arrived would be a problem, so you need to go through the passenger list and find all their family and friends, drug them and reset their watches and clocks. But then associated of those family and friends would think it strange that they disappeared and had watches set to the wrong time, so drug every person in the entire country those people came from 9and the countries their family and friends live in drug every person and reset all time pieces. But then travellers would arrive at night instead of the daytime, family and friends would suddenly notice it was night instead of day. Obviously the Sun is in the wrong place, so all you need to do is move the Sun to match the time on people's watches. and do this for every flight (and of course the return flights). See simple to make the flights fit a flat earth.
Yeah, would like to see someday the flight timelapse in combination with flight path as flightradar tracked it, on A) A globe and approximate great circle B) A flat earth map, showing what the required speed would be. Similar for the tracked flights for those flight into and departing Chile, maybe those show bigger differences? I'm not sure, too early in the morning and no coffee yet...
That little vane on the engine cowling grabbed my attention right away. The shadow from it could be used in conjunction with the time as a heading indicator. You'd need longitude data as well, though. At least we can get the latitude at 23:02, because that's Pintué, Aculeo, and Laguna de Aculeo there, with the Maipo River on the left of the view and Maipo the town across the river from the bump, disappearing behind the engine intake at 23:05. I can't see Puente la Puntilla in your footage, but I can do an image search for it and match what I see in the images to what I see on Google Maps and what I see in this timelapse. Then, of course, we get a lovely view matching a street map of Santiago before that left turn onto base and another left turn onto finals for Runway 17L.
I'm so not impressed with this Amazon LCD studio. I was expecting better quality 🤣😂 Awesome job Critical Think. I'm glad you were able to go, experience this and bring back so much data and footage.
The delay on departure was due to an airport gate problem, I don't think it was any fault of Qantas. A late flight from another airline meant a change of gate, and they had a bit of difficulty finding a spare gate.
Alright, alright. You can buy the ticket and board the real flight, but then Ethan Hunt, who’s secretly the pilot, flips a switch that fills the passenger cabin with sleeping gas. While you’re out cold, they land the plane, move you to an LED-panel studio, and load your GoPro with meticulously rendered fake flight footage. You’ll never know the difference.
This video alone debunks whole flat earth and it's prior to 24h sun observation. 1. Given the time of flight (about 11.5 h), and the distance (11,375 km), we can calculate the avg speed. This gives us 989 km/h (614.6 mph for those using older code that still checks out), which perfectly fit the graph from flightaware. For flat earth the distance would be 25,664.5 km, and given the same avg speed the flight would take almost 26h. 2. On flat earth flight path is nowhere near New Zealand. 3. Given the flight path, the view we have from the window is due south. Sunset at south-west and sunrise at south-east is impossible on flat earth anywhere south of the Tropic of Capricorn. Bye bye flerfs.
It was OPTICAL curve here from either a fish eye cam or the window distortion. It shows the same convexity on the ground as in flight. What you saw was OPTICAL and you could have proven it to yourself with ground observations on the same plane.
Expect flat-earthers to misrepresent this as an attempt to ‘prove’ Earth’s curvature, then ‘debunk’ their own misrepresentation and declare victory with a smug ‘welcome to flat Earth’.
They dim the windows in the 787 when it is sleep time. No control over that. As you get closer to the destination, they undim a little and enable manual control. I had to manually undim at the end.
@@CriticalThink So that's an electrically-controlled active layer in the window itself? Did you try to get any GPS fixes on a hand-held device? In my experience that was always possible, even a long way from land, as long as you were near a window. But if they're making windows with conductive layers they're plugging the gaps in the Faraday cage. It must be close to impossible now. Shame.
It's a pity you couldn't get a copy of the flightplan from the pilots. They usually have waypoints in an abbreviated lat/long format for these kind of flights.
@@CriticalThink looks you know flerfs are going to move goalposts. More: you know beforehead where they will move. Ehen they hit with a 'but you did not check if...' you can reply: well. actually I checked
I think there wasn't any moment with the antarctica ice visible, you had the closest approach during the night (with sunset very much southeast), but Professor Bell says that you can see antarctica during the day, and that's probably true.
@an.d.m.a i think conspiracy think went in Antarctica and i think he is very smart. So i question, how so smart man, forgot to correct date, for so important trip, when he knows that no one will believe him and date is one of important proofs. Like this video can be from any other person 😄
It’s all fake, the shadows! They’re all wrong!…… sorry I was just trying to see what it felt like to post something like that in public and on purpose. It felt horrible Got to hand it to these science deniers because how do they do it? I’m going to have a shower now, I’m feeling dirty Then I’ll have to figure out why my I-pad seems to be making a weird noise right now. It sounds like…..? Sobbing!
@@CriticalThink Haha, I should've have said that, now Steve might want his money back claiming foul play. He thought he was dealing with CT, but no, it was ET.
I just donated to your Go Fund Me - you deserve it.
It's amazing the hoops you guys were prepared to jump through to demonstrate the simple fact that most of us are aware of every day; that we live on a beautiful globe. It's such an obvious thing to most of us that we don't think of how we might demonstrate it to obstinate flat heads, but there are so many ways and you guys produced the evidence.
CT, your weight demonstration doesn't get a lot of airplay but it is such a simple test with such significant implications. It seems to skim over the hard core flatheads but anything that requires a bit of actual research and study to understand usually does.
Seeing Jeran and Witsit on TFE livestream acknowledging the truth of what they were seeing was a big deal. A true epiphany for them though only Jeran seems to be accepting the full implications of what he's seen.
Although the cause of the whole thing was a bit silly, demonstrating the nature of the world to a group of reality deniers, I'm sure it was an amazing experience that made the whole thing worthwhile.
I downloaded the GPS data from the flight and loaded it into my Geo-Data Visualisation and Calculator App. This App allows me to make measurements on the GPS data:
Calculated total dip angle: 103.25°
Great Circle Distance: 6,212 nmi
Flat Earth Distance: 20,503 nmi
Globe mean Speed: 542.9 kt
Flat Earth mean Speed: 1.792 kt
Wow, this plane flew fast, almost Mach 0.95 mean speed! Must have had tail wind.
There was a tailwind most of the time. More information on that in later analysis.
There are so many ways to corroborate the information. You can look at plane tracker apps at the time of your flight, you can probably cross reference weather data and check the cloud coverage, there might be a geostationary satellite that has pictures during the time of the flight and you can check the cloud formations.
Once I was looking at the ISS live feed and got curious about the cloud coverage. Just so happened to be over the side of Earth that the Himawari-8 satellite hangs out at, so I checked and sure enough, everything matched up. Funny that!
That's some awesome quality for 1970 :)
Great time lapse, the pilot had me worried for just a second, thought he was going to forget to nose down and you would just fly off into space.😅
What a fantastic opportunity and experience!
@Critical Think. I love the shadows on the engine. They are really significant. I saw the same thing years ago when I made the Sydney to Santiago flight. You are obviously filming from the right hand side of the aircraft. At the start of the flight the right wing is illuminated and the shadows indicate the Sun to be on the right, so flying in a south(ish) direction. On approach the sun rises on the right, so flying north(ish). These directions are the opposite to flat erf doctrine.
Perhaps QANTAS has to drug everyone, turn the plane around when it gets dark, hit the afterburners and go mach 9 to fly back past Sydney and over North America and, then turn around before sunrise to fly north again at normal cruise speed so the Sun rises in the correct side of the aircraft. That sounds do-able doesn't it.
Maybe a follow up video just focusing on the shadows and the direction of the Sun.
Yes, step by step, a lot of material to cover and it will take some time.
LOL! show me one airliner that can hit mach 9. just one.
@mrxmry3264 That would seem to be the point of my comment. The only way flerfs can explain the actual Sydney to Santiago flight (and return) is to make up imaginary aircraft.
Of course you could manage it without doing Mach 9. All you need to do is drug everyone on the plane and keep them out for the 30 hour flight needed of flat erf. That does not align with the scheduled flight time so you need to change everyone's watch to hide the extra time.
But then making calls to family and friends to let them know you have arrived would be a problem, so you need to go through the passenger list and find all their family and friends, drug them and reset their watches and clocks.
But then associated of those family and friends would think it strange that they disappeared and had watches set to the wrong time, so drug every person in the entire country those people came from 9and the countries their family and friends live in drug every person and reset all time pieces.
But then travellers would arrive at night instead of the daytime, family and friends would suddenly notice it was night instead of day. Obviously the Sun is in the wrong place, so all you need to do is move the Sun to match the time on people's watches.
and do this for every flight (and of course the return flights).
See simple to make the flights fit a flat earth.
Yeah, would like to see someday the flight timelapse in combination with flight path as flightradar tracked it, on A) A globe and approximate great circle B) A flat earth map, showing what the required speed would be. Similar for the tracked flights for those flight into and departing Chile, maybe those show bigger differences? I'm not sure, too early in the morning and no coffee yet...
That little vane on the engine cowling grabbed my attention right away. The shadow from it could be used in conjunction with the time as a heading indicator. You'd need longitude data as well, though.
At least we can get the latitude at 23:02, because that's Pintué, Aculeo, and Laguna de Aculeo there, with the Maipo River on the left of the view and Maipo the town across the river from the bump, disappearing behind the engine intake at 23:05.
I can't see Puente la Puntilla in your footage, but I can do an image search for it and match what I see in the images to what I see on Google Maps and what I see in this timelapse.
Then, of course, we get a lovely view matching a street map of Santiago before that left turn onto base and another left turn onto finals for Runway 17L.
"It's not an unedited video! It's a time-lapse!"
-Kingdom In Context
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Great work CT. :)
I think this is actually more interesting when it comes to the path of the sun than the 24 hour videos in Antarctica.
I'm so not impressed with this Amazon LCD studio. I was expecting better quality 🤣😂
Awesome job Critical Think. I'm glad you were able to go, experience this and bring back so much data and footage.
Great video mate.
Unix Epoch date: January 1st 1970. 32-bit counters are due to overflow in 2038.
22:45 The colours look almost like the background on Windows Vista Mediaplayer in the old days.😁
Good thing the front didn’t fall off.
Huh?
@mrxmry3264 They are having a go at perceived problems with Boeing aircraft (The Qantas SYD-SCL flights use 787s)
@@magical_catgirl No, nothing to do with Boeing. Just a silly reference to a classic Aussie interview by John Clarke. Please ignore.
Well I mean, these aeroplanes are built to very specific regulations... Regulations which prevent the front from falling off.
The flight that doesn't exist?
Uh oh, another flerf argument goes down. 😂
How close to on time were your QF27/28 flights? Qantas has been having ... Issues recently with their wide body fleet on time performance.
This one left 49 min late, arrived on time. QF28 left 8 min early arrived 52 min early
The delay on departure was due to an airport gate problem, I don't think it was any fault of Qantas. A late flight from another airline meant a change of gate, and they had a bit of difficulty finding a spare gate.
But but but "nuh uh" "you can't board those flights" "they go to the states"
“You go to buy a ticket and they’re all sold out”
“You can buy a ticket but they transfer you to a different flight”
Alright, alright. You can buy the ticket and board the real flight, but then Ethan Hunt, who’s secretly the pilot, flips a switch that fills the passenger cabin with sleeping gas. While you’re out cold, they land the plane, move you to an LED-panel studio, and load your GoPro with meticulously rendered fake flight footage. You’ll never know the difference.
@markksargent this is a flight which you claim 'doesn't exist'... Care to elaborate?
Mark Sargent is the dumbest person on the internet.
Nu-uh, even if the time was wrong in the camera that plane didn't exist in 1970, so the footage is fake.
This video alone debunks whole flat earth and it's prior to 24h sun observation.
1. Given the time of flight (about 11.5 h), and the distance (11,375 km), we can calculate the avg speed. This gives us 989 km/h (614.6 mph for those using older code that still checks out), which perfectly fit the graph from flightaware. For flat earth the distance would be 25,664.5 km, and given the same avg speed the flight would take almost 26h.
2. On flat earth flight path is nowhere near New Zealand.
3. Given the flight path, the view we have from the window is due south. Sunset at south-west and sunrise at south-east is impossible on flat earth anywhere south of the Tropic of Capricorn.
Bye bye flerfs.
Yes correct. These things will be dealt with in a later video.
I saw the earth curve on QF3 on New Years Day. ;)
It's been curved since at least 1983 when I saw it flying over Central Australia in clear conditions on my way to Europe.
I could feel the earth spin 04:00 New Years Day 🤣
It was OPTICAL curve here from either a fish eye cam or the window distortion. It shows the same convexity on the ground as in flight.
What you saw was OPTICAL and you could have proven it to yourself with ground observations on the same plane.
Nice
Is that a fish eye lens CT? If it's not then you can literally see the curve that's so cool. 👍
It's a fish eye lens, so don't worry about that.
@CriticalThink I'm not trying to say it is a fish eye just so you know mate haha , I am in no way a retarded flerf.
Expect flat-earthers to misrepresent this as an attempt to ‘prove’ Earth’s curvature, then ‘debunk’ their own misrepresentation and declare victory with a smug ‘welcome to flat Earth’.
@m80coco I've already seen them try it in the comments.
The thing with the color, is that the auto white balance enabled that is messing things up?
They dim the windows in the 787 when it is sleep time. No control over that. As you get closer to the destination, they undim a little and enable manual control. I had to manually undim at the end.
@@CriticalThink Oh, cool. I had no idea that was a thing.
@@CriticalThink Oh, that would annoy me. I guess I am in the minority on that. Thank you again, CT. Lovely stuff!
@@CriticalThink So that's an electrically-controlled active layer in the window itself?
Did you try to get any GPS fixes on a hand-held device?
In my experience that was always possible, even a long way from land, as long as you were near a window. But if they're making windows with conductive layers they're plugging the gaps in the Faraday cage. It must be close to impossible now. Shame.
@sineout9294 yes electrically controlled window. GPS doesn't work inside a 787.
Which time zone is the clock time please?
@@edby263 none. The time was not set, but it is easy to correlate with the real time.
@@CriticalThink Aha. So what time in Sydney (GMT+11) did the plane take off?
@@edby263 1:25pm
@@CriticalThink Thanks!
i wonder on what studio you guys have flawn to to be able to hide big plane like this and simulate flying.
The flight that doesn't exist on flat earth 😎
It's a pity you couldn't get a copy of the flightplan from the pilots. They usually have waypoints in an abbreviated lat/long format for these kind of flights.
@@ImperrfectStranger for a future video. Be patient.
@@CriticalThink looks you know flerfs are going to move goalposts. More: you know beforehead where they will move. Ehen they hit with a 'but you did not check if...' you can reply: well. actually I checked
I think there wasn't any moment with the antarctica ice visible, you had the closest approach during the night (with sunset very much southeast), but Professor Bell says that you can see antarctica during the day, and that's probably true.
A lot of cloud too. Closer to Antarctica on the way back, but cloud again.
Sunset of course is "very much south WEST".
@@rubygray7749 Yes, mistake, I meant sw.
Did anyone else notice the obvious transition to bluescreen at 22:35?
what? What transition?
I noticed that. Even more significant is the moment when the Sun simulator runs out of gas at 10:10.
Wrong date 😅
Read the description.
@an.d.m.a yes I did. But he goes on souch important travel and not making good date? 😄
@@SerbianConspiracy so you think it was really filmed in 1970?
@an.d.m.a i think conspiracy think went in Antarctica and i think he is very smart.
So i question, how so smart man, forgot to correct date, for so important trip, when he knows that no one will believe him and date is one of important proofs.
Like this video can be from any other person 😄
@@SerbianConspiracy another person in 1970? OK.
It’s all fake, the shadows! They’re all wrong!……
sorry I was just trying to see what it felt like to post something like that in public and on purpose.
It felt horrible
Got to hand it to these science deniers because how do they do it?
I’m going to have a shower now, I’m feeling dirty
Then I’ll have to figure out why my I-pad seems to be making a weird noise right now. It sounds like…..? Sobbing!
I once made a comment pretending to be a flerf, and I got more likes on that comment than any other I've posted on youtube.
There's a second sun starting from 8:51, and it's in front of the engine, proving that the sun is small and local.
Wow, then that second sun becomes 8 or 12 suns, all surrounding the first... Like a lens flare or something!
@@Adrena1in Lensflare? That would NEVER happen with a Nikon P100000.
CGI.
They didn’t have CGI in 1970 when this was recorded.
@ good point 🤌
@@andrewjohnston6631 They didn't even have HD video back in 1970 when this was recorded in HD. I think it's safe to say that CT is an Alien.
@@gjw45 I cannot confirm or deny those rumours.
@@CriticalThink Haha, I should've have said that, now Steve might want his money back claiming foul play. He thought he was dealing with CT, but no, it was ET.