RUclips age restricted the last one so here's a re-upload a kid derailed a bnsf coal train in bennet, ne Join this channel to support my work and get exclusive perks: / @bnsf1458
RUclips age restricted this previously so I had to re-upload it, for anyone wondering (If you want to be REALLY nice do me a favor and re-watch it so the algorithm likes it just as much as the last)
1st offender plea deal, 5 years probation and their criminal record will be cleared and sealed upon successfully completing probation. Even a mildly incompetent public defender can get this sentencing.
I would like to add a note that tanpering with railroads is a federal crime especially when it causes substantial damage so he aint goin to normal jail either
@@jonnie2bad Any mildly incompetent ADA would say hell no. Plea deal for 25 years, with parole eligibility after 10 years served. Train wrecking is a capital offense in some states, though they are usually old laws from a different time, and probably wouldn't be enforced today. That said, it can still be a life sentence.
He not only endangered the train crew, but if the train was moving faster and had hazardous or flammable materials on board, an entire neighbourhood could have been destroyed. He had no idea what speed the next train was going or what it was hauling.
@sludge8506 Even with radio's things still can go horribly wrong "champ", they aren't wonder devices and to fully trust radio's to prevent catastrophes is naive at best.
@sludge8506 even so, if a crew expects a switch to be lined straight and it is not, going into a somewhat sharp curve, it could have a disaster ending
Me too. But I don’t even film them sometimes. I just live in the moment because most of the trains I see are just NS locomotives. Unless I know a heritage unit is nearby i usually don’t record.
Sorry buddy, but when you create a social identity that has zero barriers to entry, its inevitable that criminals will use your hobby to earn money or get back at society. If you don't like that, then form actual official clubs that have standards for entry.
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 I think I know the video you're talking about. It wasn't clear from the video if the person was still standing near the camera, or not. If he placed the camera and walked back, then it's no big deal. If a loose strap is swinging and destroys the camera, it would suck for sure, but it's replaceable. If he was actually standing by the camera when the Z flew by, then that's just stupid on his part.
You know up until the one kid started uploading the videos of setting switches and trespassing to get access to locomotives at a yard, railroads thought Railfans were somewhat of a nuisance but one that had a higher benefit of being able to see areas and warn them of nefarious people and actions along the rails. Basically a free set of eyes and ears that would offer a little more security for nothing more than filming their trains doing their job. Now that this is happened, that will swing completely the other way. Railfans will be declared dangerous and the people that hated you at the railroads will win in the conversation. Not only that but they will have to increase security around switches in dark territory to prevent this from happening again, costing them even more money to retrofit switches. Although, if a kid can do it, it probably should have been fixed years ago.
Older fans probably were more of a help, wanting to be a part of the endeavor. But with social media, simply being a fan and being a part of it isn't enough, now you have to do more and more to get views and likes and all that. Pretty sad. What's going to happen now is anyone posted up watching a train will have the police called on them for fear of another incident. Truthfully though, it's shocking these switches don't have any automation or sensors. Small solar and cell/satellite sensors are dirt cheap today and could be deployed everywhere rather quickly.
The reason why the rail industry hates 'railfans' is because they didn't lift a finger to punish people who did things like this. The fact that the first guy making videos of himself playing with switches didn't get physically battered and publicly humiliated by the 'railfan' community ensured that other guys would do the same thing. When your group's reaction to dirtbags within your community is to whine about it and let the police handle it, then things will never get better. I'm not saying you guys should kick the crap out of this kid. That boat has already sailed. Now you get to be considered equally as malicious as him while he makes fun of your community for being pushover cowards who won't defend their own hobby from imposters using it as a shield to commit crimes against society.
Its starting to make sense why many railroads dislike railfans. And its a shame too because not every railfan is willing to derail a train for clout. It sucks that im saying this, but I can easily see railroads here in the U.S start to take major action against railfans after this accident in the near future at least.
@@DanknDerpyGamer Like them reporting railfans to the railroad police the moment they spot them near the tracks with a camera and a tripod. (Except for maybe a railroad crossing), possibly them having to have a security guard on board the locomotive at all times as one commenter said, anything really. I may sound unrealistic but considering this kid managed to flip a yard switch (which by the way should have been locked) And derail a freight train and caused major damage and could have gotten someone killed, those are almost the railroads only options to prevent this from happening again now.
@@zachzebra56 I really hope it doesn't go that far. After this video, I'm going to go to some Virtual Railfan live feeds at some of my favorite spots and check on any recent activity, by both railfans and cops.
Yesterday I went to see 4014's return to Cheyenne, and some dingleberry tried to get into the cab, but he relented when Ed told him off. Ridiculous as that was, I miss the days when that was the worst you could expect from railfans.
@@HunterWilliams-le9bk He does seem nice. From what I could hear over the three dynamos and the idling of number 1983, he was diplomatic during his confrontation with the impulsive foamer.
Would that be trespassing to try to climb into a steam locomotive cab on a class 1 while it is idling but in active use? Probably yes. He had no prior permission to do that. I got to climb into 611's cab at Strasburg in Sept 2019 for a whistle blow I already had paid for. We rode behind 611 as well before that.
I, from the start, thought it to be quite a coincidence that he happened to be RIGHT where the train derailed. Along with that, he already came up with a full-blown story of how an empty coal train had forgotten to realign the switch to the main after setting off a car. Already had an unlikely event, but he already came to the conclusion that the switch was misaligned well even before the investigation was complete. Also, judging by his reaction to the derailment, he handled it surprisingly well. I think most of us would have said some other things.
When the previous train set out the defective car they would have had to realign the switch to the main to back onto the rest of their train, unless the defect was the very last car.
That's meaningless. They're part of your community because you let anyone be part of your community. You have no organization that can police members and speak officially to other parties. You create a market of ideas and your social group financially rewards people who record events like this. This means that the criminals are part of the community since they feed off of it while using it as a shield. Had there not been trainians all over the world messing with trains, then there would be much more scrutiny for people who seem overly interested in the rail system. Saying you disavow this criminal is like saying you 'stand with Ukraine;' it meaningless words unless you actually try to do something to help. Your opinion about a criminal disguised as yourself means nothing to the potential victims of criminals like him. Unless you can create an organized group akin to the VFW, Masons, or Rotary for your hobby that can punish criminals and speak for your group, then you'll always be burdened by criminals who try to use your hobby for their own personal gain regardless of the cost to you or to the rest of society. When previous criminals within your hobby were causing problems in the past, you guys should've done something about that. You should've made sure to punish those individuals for tarnishing your reputation instead of just relying on the police to handle it. This is what groups like the VFW or Masons do when criminals enter their organizations and try to exploit them for person illicit gain. Those organizations make sure to punish the criminals harshly and distance them from their groups regardless of how well the police and courts punish the perpetrators. A bad doctor should fear his peers more than the law. A bad veteran who's a member of the VFW should fear their response to his illicit actions more than the punishment dealt out by the courts. When your social group has an organized system, then it can weed out the bad people and punish the criminals who try to weasel their way in.
@@ryelor123 IMO part of the problem is the idea that others can treat a "community" of loosely associated people as if it were some organization, which IMO means it is also important to call out idiots who generalize ALONGSIDE those who do dumb things.
The fact that one kid modified his Scanner or used a scanner that had a PTT button on it to ask the crew when are there trains coming is in my opinion the quickest way to go to jail.
FCC loves when they get to break out the expensive toys... normally it is a pirate radio or such, violating the railway band will just make him more popular.
I maybe harsh! Good! As a retired Locomotive Engineer,I thought I had seen it all from irresponsible "foamers",Climbing on Equipment,running across tracks as we were bearing down on them,etc. I even had one character use a flashbulb to take a picture of me in the cab.I was running Multiple Unit Equipment. I thought the cab exploded and put my train into Emergency. Having said this,I have found that MOST railfans are respectful of Property and have even assisted us like when you are stuck somewhere when it is 95 degrees and somebody brings you a cool drink. This VANDAL should not be charged as he was. He should be charged with 2 counts of Attempted Murder and Felony Assault for the Engineer and Conductor,who I am sure suffered some sort of injury. This is WAY beyond the pale,and serious time should be given upon conviction.
Sure is, and an FCC fine. In the 90s, we had a guy here that modded an HT to talk on police frequencies. Hed cuss, yell at the top of his voice, threaten cops. He finally got caught .. 😮
@aoiasahinashusband So radio frequencies are a multimillion fund for the government, anyone that doesn’t pay to transmit on those certain frequencies will be hunted down by the government. The railroad paid for exclusive use of those frequencies, long story short, don’t mess with the government’s money.
5:41 The gross overuse of the term "terrorism" really drives me up the wall. Was this destructive act for the furtherance of political goals? As far as we all know, no. So it does not fit the definition of "terrorism," which is the act of, or threat of, violence in the furtherance of political goals. The way it's been misapplied and stretched by the government in the last 25 years to cover things it shouldn't is infuriating. The least we can do is not misuse the term, and check those that do, to start reining its use back in to where it ought to be.
I'm desperately trying to understand why. Why did what he did reflect on railfans in any way? It's like saying pilots can't be trusted because one guy decided to crash his plane on purpose.
@@itwasaliens It doesn't, IMO. "One bad apple" is bullshit, hobbies are not barrels of apples that face disease. "Good" railfans don't become bad just because there are bad people who like the same hobby, That's a logical fallacy - "guilt by association" is a logical fallacy, and IMO using it as an excuse to deflect from people who generalize being held responsible for generalizing (which Briannat isn't doing, but others are) is just stupid.
@@DanknDerpyGamer”One bad apple ruins the barrel” Is a saying. For example, that one crackhead doing something stupid(eg. messing around with railroad equipment then Filming The result). makes everyone doing something similar(just Filming a train go by) look bad automatically.
@@Merri-bekRailfan *”One bad apple ruins the barrel” Is a saying"* Yeah - but applying it to something as nebulous as a hobby or fandom is erroneous since the mechanics are not the same - and even in the scope of people doing bad things, the comparison falls apart, IMO, that's the point I'm trying to make.
I stick to myself and stay back from the tracks for a reason. Crews on my sub usually wave, and I've even gotten thrown a few hats. It's better not to do any stupid stuff. This has gone to far.
Thats why when I'm out railfanning i always keep eyes glued foward as the train goes by mostly for safety and in case something happens i got a head start.
If this person is a railfan, does that make a nitwit who drops a cinder block off of a highway overpass onto oncoming traffic an automobile enthusiast?
No, because the railfan community had no barriers to entry and thus criminals could walk among them and use them to profit off of criminal activity. The guy dropping concrete blocks onto cars isn't part of any community except the pedestrian community and that community would actually physically punish him if they saw him doing that instead of sitting on the internet and whining. If you open your doors to everyone, then you're going to be inviting in problems.
@@ryelor123Barriers to entry are a silly thing to consider because the criminals don’t do it to be a part of any community. They do it for social media clout. And that has no barriers to entry. You don’t need to be licensed doctor to post medical advice on RUclips unfortunately, although sometimes there is enough outrage that a video is taken down. You won’t ever get this for people filming trains though.
In my 20 years of being a railfan, I have never seen this kind of behavior from railfans. Ever! I've seen railfans do dumb things sometimes but this is a whole other level of stupid for what this railfan has done
No e spoke a language they well understand in the tune of a half million . his tender young ass is toast. I wouldn't be caught on the property now guarantee you will go to jail
@@Kearneymort its rail road so its federal charges not state level so he could actually have it elevated to a class two with a terrorism charge thrown in alongside trespassing and tampering with rr property. potentially attempted murder too. just saying because federally when you get charged with a felony your getting tried as a adult regardless of age provided your above 4.
@@SiriusG BNSF having the state charge him. I live in Nebraska and use to work in the juvenile system and they hardly ever send juveniles to federal they usually have state do the court because we had more resources for juveniles then federal
I am a railfan, but I'm A twelve year old, and I've never done trainspotting, and it annoys me when people are so foolish to trespass and nearly get hit by a train for kicks and giggles
Here’s some context, as this incident is semi-local to me. This is the OPPD arbor line, it runs from Lincoln, NE to Nebraska city, NE. The power plant in NebCity owns the line, a 3rd party maintains it, and BNSF hauls the coal to the plant over the line. There is one shuttle elevator that UP serves further east. This line is dark territory, also very hilly and curvy which requires trains to run 2x3, and they still stall out coming out of Lincoln on occasion. The crew of the empty train would’ve had to throw the switch back after setting out the defective car to put the train back together as stated above they had 3 DPUs. It was also said the switch had been tampered with and supposedly locked before the incident occurred with the loaded train. It’s pretty obvious the kid did it, which tallies this up to being the THIRD incident to occur in the Bennet area in the last 3 years. This line was reopened in 2021 after 17 years of dormancy when BNSF got the coal bid back, the first incident in ‘21 was a washout causing a derailment NW of town, derailment 2 east of town when a bridge gave out in ‘22, and now this.
The account that uploaded the derailment video also uploaded another Bennet derailment from a year or so back. Well, claimed derailment. Quite the coinkydink doncha think?
@@JH-wd6dp That was a legit derailment, a wooden bridge gave out underneath one of the loaded coal trains. It was one of the bridges they didn't replace when rehabbing the line in late 2020 for the reactivation.
@@Rosso_Dabosso Oh for sure, I'm just not certain if his video titled as a derailment was that incident or something else. The video he uploaded shows a train stopping after passing his location.
A big difference now is that the kid used the train-sniffing community to make money from his criminal act. He wouldn't have done it if there wasn't a community that would praise him had everything gone to plan. This is why innocent people who are part of a group get blamed for the bad apples within their community. Train-lovers should've created an official club with membership and standards that would police the members of that hobby. Instead they didn't and they complained every time some criminal used their hobby as a means to profit off of crime. This is why groups like the VFW, Rotary, Masons, various unions, and professional organizations all exist. Its so that their social communities can impose standards on its members and punish criminals beyond what the law itself would do. The trainsexual community should create their own trainwatcher organization so that stuff like this can't happen. If you want to annoy train captains - or whatever their drivers are called - without being labeled as a terrorist, then you need to weed out the criminals from your hobby lest they define you as another one of themselves.
The kid at 1:26 could not have "found a talk button on his scanner," that's like finding the "pop wings out and fly" button on a Honda Civic, it wasn't built with those parts. Kid must have been using a different kind of radio transceiver and set it up for the railroad frequencies. It's cheap. It's easy. It's STUPID. If someone knows to be looking for you, it's so simple to track you down that radio hobbyists practice it as a game, they call it "foxhunting". It gets punished severely when you get caught, the FCC can't be bothered if you interfere with ham radio hobbyists but they bring down the hammer of the gods if you mess with business bands. If you don't know what you're doing you could interfere with something safety-related like airport navigation aids or ambulances. Don't do it.
FCC is cringe to be honest. I'm not saying we should interfere with safety-critical communications, but they regulate it too much. I shouldn't need a license to utilize physics, and I don't want those toy walmart radios either.
@@shamancredible8632 At least there are plenty of amateur and ISM bands that the FCC doesn't care about, to the extent that you can easily get away with high power unlicensed transmissions. Just don't do anything too stupid like jamming the band or transmitting out of band, both of which are likely to get some unwanted attention from the FCC.
@@shamancredible8632 Oh, just shut up. Safety regulations are written in blood. There's a reason private radio bands are heavily regulated. Screw your freedumbs.
Sucks that even adults double your age have no control over their maturity...Keep doing your thing lil bro and take notes cause railfanning might be outlawed someday
The Railfanning community is infact more messed up, my home address has been leaked by people in this community, I’ve moved into a 2nd house and it was leaked again. Asides from the foamers and trespassers, there’s some people in this community that leak others addresses. I was a victim of this.
How did these people even get ahold of your home address? I won't even share anything personal to keep absolute secrecy. And what happened when your adress was leaked? did people start showing up at your house?
What did you do that led to people leaking your address? I've been in the railfan community for a whole now, and to be honest, you'd really have to set someone off for them to stoop down that low in the first place.
Here in Canada, I have meet a lot of railfans who are really responsible when it comes to ensuring they stay safe, apart from one idiotic old man who was yelling at my day saying that one specific railfan spot was his and we aren't allowed there which it Municipal property and we have every dam right to be there
Doesn't even make sense that the crew left it open. If you pull up, and set out a bad order. You still have to line it normal to hook back into your train. Even if it was the last car. You'll still want to shove the train back to pick up the conductor
@@ghostbaz12 even that varies. There're all kinds of different locks where you could do that, but the most common lock used by railroads is the Sergeant & Greenleaf High Security Environmental Padlock. Which can only be left unlocked, if the key is in it.
I was a railroader for over 20 years between Amtrak OBS and CSX T&E. When I finally left, I made absolutely sure that they recorded my turning back in my radio and switch key, just for reasons like this, so I would not get a knock on my door from a special agent checking to see where I was when someone stupid did something like this within a hundred miles of me.
Meanwhile in NYC, the MTA is spending some insane amount of money rekeying all subway car doors because there are tons of unaccounted for and unauthorized master keys floating around. Teens are getting into the control cabs and doing all sorts of bad things.
@@NotMyProblem711 I don't think railfans are the ones doing that. Sounds more like idiot kids who never got told no by mommy and daddy (who am I kidding, people who act like that don't have fathers)
I have always been a rail fan. But I would never do very dump and dangerous things like this kid. I had model trains and, when I was old enough, I went to work of the Southern Pacific Railroad. I had a great career with that wonderful railroad. Train wrecking is a Federal offense which can send you to jail for a very long time. To be a rail fan means that your "love" trains. And you don't try to destroy and cause problems for something that you love!
Yeah, I'm good at reading people, as in invited covertly to a couple of business lunches over the years, by friends, wondering if a potential partner or business sale was a scam. I thought from the beginning, when I first saw that kids video, he was "bad acting" ie rehearsed but badly acted. Sounded like a person getting busted for 5lbs of drugs, trying to tell the cops they've never even heard of that stuff, oh my god, really? It's what?
I've given up on the railfan scene because there have been too many of these kids who give it a bad name through their careless actions and attitudes. The most recent incident has really given the railfan community as a whole a really big black eye for which there will be long term consequences.
I mean the things Sebastian Deyoung and Capital City Railfan did are already illegal, so yes Foamers (or at least their actions of messing with railroad equipment) are already illegal.
It's unfortunate that it has to be done, but it seems like we have to make it _more_ illegal. Trespassing on a railway (including railway property adjacent to but not near the line) should result in jail time. Period. No matter how seemingly minor it is.
We can safely say the majority of tiktokers who do anything related to trains always do something stupid (like trespassing) but there are definitely a lot of dumb railfans as well like this kid who derailed the train
If a previous train had set out a bad order on that track, they would have had to reline the switch back to the main to get their locomotives back to their train before they departed.
like i said in the previous video, i expect penguinz0 to cover this story aswell, considering how much coverage its been getting... EDIT (27 July 2024; 16:30 UTC): I FUCKING CALLED IT!!!
So this is where the rest of us step up and show them all how real railfans act. For years now I've been saying we need to set the example, not try to be the exception, and now is the time we all really have to do that. Stay a safe distance from the tracks. Cross only at marked crossings, if crossing on foot, stop, check both ways, step over the rail. If we act reasonable and set the example for how to behave safely around trains, then the railroads and trains crews will not have any reason to dislike us.
Im an 18 year old railfan, and as much as I (sorta) regret joining this community, it's one of my hobbies, and it's all in my blood. Still, A PHACKING 17 YEAR OLD CHARGED WITH 3RD DEGREE FELONY
This is what happens when a generation of self-indulgent brats who’ve never been given boundaries by their parents or caregivers get social media accounts and use that for the attention they so desperately crave. I hate that I sound like a frustrated Karen, but this Gen Z bullshit makes my piss boil. Ship these assholes off to a developing country, take their phones and iPads away and make them work hard and live like the locals.
Im known on my old subdivision by some crews and maintainers ive gotten a vest and even crossing bells they know im not crazy. I have learned to stay back from the tracks after having a random reality check a couple months ago. Its just mind blowing to me how him having autism was an excuse to some people. Im putting my two cents on my channel soon.
I’ve gotten a few things as well. Have a decommissioned cross buck stashed away for some year to grace a shop wall given to me watching crews replace an overhead cantilever signal. In 30 plus years being mindful and courteous I only got in trouble once. And yes I had to pay a small fine. Up at the cascade tunnel, pre 9/11 we could almost walk up to the tunnel for shots. Post, even a decent 300mm telephoto makes shots different due to the Telesmoosh. I wanted a better shot so I entered the edge of the yard to and hiked to the Tye River Bridge and set up on the edge of the edge. 5 mins later I heard on the radio a “RF” was in the yard. I didn’t try and run. I just was met by an officer at my truck. I believe they have laxed it a bit recently but this will just make it harder.
You know, I was telling someone a while back I'm starting to want to distance myself from the railfan community for all of these reasons. I don't understand what has gotten into people lately. I genuinely worry that within the next few months or years, even being spotted near tracks with a camera is going to warrant investigation or be outlawed entirely simply because people can't stand to keep their hands to themselves. I sincerely hope we can go back to being normal railfans and not genuine felons and delinquents.
I think that would go against freedom of speech since we can be filming from public property. But I’m sure we’ll get visited by rail police more often though.
@@devernepersonal3636 Maybe, but at the same time, if railroads start to genuinely worry that those trackside are a real threat to operations and safety, it's hard telling. I'll admit that outlook is fairly dark, but these days there's no telling what will happen. I'm sure anything like that would raise controversy, and end up at a much higher power than local police or railroad police.
@@SouthernKansasRailfan yeah i do see what you are saying man. though, i still think it will be alright. though i am not as hardcore of a railfan as i used to be simply because i never got lucky with "the good stuff" which the definition for has changed over time. I only say that because maybe i am less worried than i would be if i were still hardcore. but you will always have crazy people doing stuff. some that we will never hear about. i have distanced myself slightly, because a lot of railfans seem to be opiniated or bullies at times now. but also because photography opens up everything, not just trains.
@@devernepersonal3636 I've also pulled away from the community a big as well. I'm more focused on documentary filmmaking, but that's not to say I've lost an ounce of my passion for railroading and steam locomotives, just the community.
I'm gonna be that guy. Let's put down our pitchforks for a minute and admit that the idea this kid really did cause this derailment is mostly speculation. 1. This kid was filming trains at this spot for a long time. Railfans are contantly moving back and forth to try and get better shots. That can explain the security cam footage of his car, but that footage DOES NOT PROVE HE MOVED THE SWITCH. 2. The switch was supposed to be physically locked. From my research the lock was supposedly found to be missing, which could be explained by a railroad worker just plain forgetting. The kid could have cut the lock,, but there seems to be no evidence of him having that kind of equipment with him, nor that the switch was actually tampered with. 3. The lead investigator of this is EMPLOYED BY THE RAILROAD. How is that not a glaring conflict of interest? The company has a financial interest to blame this on malice rather than worker incompetence. I'm sorry, but this evidence is just not compelling enough, and railfans love to pretend that their fellow railfans are idiots and the rail company can't do wrong.
I find not being forgiving to people, even Sebastian DeYoung to be a very heartless thing to do. Where is the mercy for a mentally ill kid? Even God commands us to be forgiving to our enemies and to love them.
Scanners don't have "talk" buttons. He either had a 2-way, or that clip is fake. Oh, almost forgot... The camera didn't show anyone actually doing anything with the switch, it only showed someone walking along the tracks, in the direction of the switch....
Also in the video, kid is breathing heavily like he knows its gonna happen. Then he screams "Oh my God" before impact even happens. Further more train that set of the bad order had dpu on rear. They had to line switch back to normal position to tie back up. Yet this kid says crew failed to set switch back correctly. Its also being reported that they are seeking to charge him as an adult, and if that happens, he'll serve some serious time. He'll be in juvenile hall until he turns 18, at which point he will be transfered to Prison.
The train was off the “main” (don’t think I’d call the OPPD Arbor a main lol) before they were in the video. They didn’t say “Oh my God” until right before it hit. Yeah, OMAX trains run with DPUs. 19, not 18. You aren’t an adult in Nebraska until you are 19.
As an engineer myself I tend to dislike FOAMERS. There have been time when I don’t blow the horn for them because I’m already 10 hours into a shift that started at 1 in the morning and they end up flipping me the bird. FOAMERS that get too close to the track because they NEED that perfect shot of a train. I have no respect for them.
You can go to stations n stuff. Or just a stretch of track with no switches or nothing by em. Stay the allotted 50 ft or so and don't record people or trains standing around. If things are moving people won't care. Least in my experience
I still believe in the railfan community, there’s still normal railfans out there, and many people still do this hobby. Although I’m still young at 14, even I don’t do this. I guess you could say the “dumbest” (not really dumb) thing I did was stand a little close to a crossing signal for a good train angle. The train crew didn’t seem to mind when I did it either, I may have gotten lucky
I wonder if his parents could be charged with neglectence of what happened without knowing that it even happened. If it was even worse, he could've cost his life, but instead, he has cost himself near death, taxes, and jail time
I’m not a railfan myself, but I occasionally film some trains like DART, TRE and TexRail during holidays. I played video games and sometimes stream than filming trains and sirens.
Last I heard is that he was sentenced to a $10,000 fine. There was probably more, but let's hope he learns the lesson not to tamper with the equipment again.
I Used to be a Foamer before i realized it could had me fucking killed me so Tip Never EVER! Go onto a line and switch the line it can kill you if you change the points PSA: Trains are Big trucks
It seems like in the past year or so, people that are railfanning with shady intent are getting more and more bold. Kinda feel bad for honest railfans at this point.
It has been YEARS since I last railfanned in any meaningful way. While I can't say I never trespassed on RR property, I never stepped on rails, walked on bridges, walked "inside the gauge", and I always kept a good sense of what was going on around me. I enjoy watching trains with VRF, Steel Highways, and some other channels.
Hi, every so often I hear what I assume to be unauthorized transmissions on the NJ Transit frequencies. I think they should have asked where he was so the railroad police would come, but oh well.
Just to be clear, just because he got video of a train derailing doesn't mean it had help being derailed. There are plenty of videos on youtube and elsewhere that show trains being derailed. I have seen a train derail while sitting a crossing. Now in this case there seems to be other evidence that he had something to do with it and he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. All I'm staying is just because he managed to video it, doesn't mean he had something to do with it.
To be fair some of the metra crews are chummy with some of the more well known railfans in Chicago. I've seen meetups at the IRM. It's not common but I have seen it. We were once on the platform at Stone Ave and somebody whose in like flynn asked if the Q heritage unit was running that day. Sure enough conductor replied wait about an hr 20. Sure enough got a beautiful run by.
So nobody is talking about it but has anyone noticed how this kid is breathing very heavily as the train approaches? Almost like he knew exactly what was gonna happen.
The Mexican thing is very unsurprising since I watch off road racing...if you have any familiarity with the Baja 1000 then you know what I'm talking about.
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RUclips age restricted this previously so I had to re-upload it, for anyone wondering
(If you want to be REALLY nice do me a favor and re-watch it so the algorithm likes it just as much as the last)
okay because I was curious why it said "8 minutes ago".
Bruh
That was me at (1:52) keep in mind I work for Amtrak.
You could've sent an appeal
@@BenthetrainkidRUclips doesn't give a fuck, it would have been denied for no reason.
17-year-old’s are frequently tried as adults when felonies are involved. Dude’s not facing juvie, dude’s looking at prison.
Good. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
1st offender plea deal, 5 years probation and their criminal record will be cleared and sealed upon successfully completing probation. Even a mildly incompetent public defender can get this sentencing.
I would like to add a note that tanpering with railroads is a federal crime especially when it causes substantial damage so he aint goin to normal jail either
@@jonnie2bad Any mildly incompetent ADA would say hell no. Plea deal for 25 years, with parole eligibility after 10 years served. Train wrecking is a capital offense in some states, though they are usually old laws from a different time, and probably wouldn't be enforced today. That said, it can still be a life sentence.
They are asking for the adult court is what I heard on a different video.
He not only endangered the train crew, but if the train was moving faster and had hazardous or flammable materials on board, an entire neighbourhood could have been destroyed. He had no idea what speed the next train was going or what it was hauling.
Trains have radios, champ. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@sludge8506 Even with radio's things still can go horribly wrong "champ", they aren't wonder devices and to fully trust radio's to prevent catastrophes is naive at best.
Thanks to his criminal actions, everyone part of the train-watching hobby is now a suspected terrorist.
@sludge8506 even so, if a crew expects a switch to be lined straight and it is not, going into a somewhat sharp curve, it could have a disaster ending
There was a video of a man destroying a Sandstone formation in a Natl Park in Utah.He filmed himself doing it too
I don’t like these kids doing this. I just want to film trains with no one interrupting me.
Same.
Same
Me too. But I don’t even film them sometimes. I just live in the moment because most of the trains I see are just NS locomotives. Unless I know a heritage unit is nearby i usually don’t record.
Sorry buddy, but when you create a social identity that has zero barriers to entry, its inevitable that criminals will use your hobby to earn money or get back at society. If you don't like that, then form actual official clubs that have standards for entry.
@@ryelor123 or just don't trespass and film any trains at all. Common sense.
Now yall see why some karens call railfans terrorists, It's crazy this guy literally put the crews lives at risk to get a couple views on YT
People will do anything for that little hit of dopamine from numbers on social media
They arent karens
@@ASoCalRailfanner-hg7mb but in this case the karens are actually right for once
100% is terrisom
Oh watch out, you offended a karen lover
Not to mention those railfans that risk their lives by railfanning at amtrak stations and standing as close to the edge of the platform as possible
Yeah I saw a guy placing his tripod on the yellow line as a 70 mph z train is blowing by
If you want close ups, cameras have a zoom feature
@@ShukakuTheCrazy1we already know that
@@SilkyTrains that was more directed at the idiots that keep going too close to the track for a better view
@@NorCaliRailroading2023 I think I know the video you're talking about. It wasn't clear from the video if the person was still standing near the camera, or not. If he placed the camera and walked back, then it's no big deal. If a loose strap is swinging and destroys the camera, it would suck for sure, but it's replaceable. If he was actually standing by the camera when the Z flew by, then that's just stupid on his part.
You know up until the one kid started uploading the videos of setting switches and trespassing to get access to locomotives at a yard, railroads thought Railfans were somewhat of a nuisance but one that had a higher benefit of being able to see areas and warn them of nefarious people and actions along the rails. Basically a free set of eyes and ears that would offer a little more security for nothing more than filming their trains doing their job. Now that this is happened, that will swing completely the other way. Railfans will be declared dangerous and the people that hated you at the railroads will win in the conversation. Not only that but they will have to increase security around switches in dark territory to prevent this from happening again, costing them even more money to retrofit switches. Although, if a kid can do it, it probably should have been fixed years ago.
Older fans probably were more of a help, wanting to be a part of the endeavor. But with social media, simply being a fan and being a part of it isn't enough, now you have to do more and more to get views and likes and all that. Pretty sad.
What's going to happen now is anyone posted up watching a train will have the police called on them for fear of another incident.
Truthfully though, it's shocking these switches don't have any automation or sensors. Small solar and cell/satellite sensors are dirt cheap today and could be deployed everywhere rather quickly.
There were plenty of goofy, power hungry, totally ignorant railroad cops back in the day. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The reason why the rail industry hates 'railfans' is because they didn't lift a finger to punish people who did things like this. The fact that the first guy making videos of himself playing with switches didn't get physically battered and publicly humiliated by the 'railfan' community ensured that other guys would do the same thing. When your group's reaction to dirtbags within your community is to whine about it and let the police handle it, then things will never get better. I'm not saying you guys should kick the crap out of this kid. That boat has already sailed. Now you get to be considered equally as malicious as him while he makes fun of your community for being pushover cowards who won't defend their own hobby from imposters using it as a shield to commit crimes against society.
@@ryelor123 You think they all live in the same town?
Seems like they would have a lock on the switches, maybe one with an indicator to show if it isn't fully locked.
Its starting to make sense why many railroads dislike railfans. And its a shame too because not every railfan is willing to derail a train for clout. It sucks that im saying this, but I can easily see railroads here in the U.S start to take major action against railfans after this accident in the near future at least.
"Major action against railfans" like what?
@@DanknDerpyGamer Like them reporting railfans to the railroad police the moment they spot them near the tracks with a camera and a tripod. (Except for maybe a railroad crossing), possibly them having to have a security guard on board the locomotive at all times as one commenter said, anything really. I may sound unrealistic but considering this kid managed to flip a yard switch (which by the way should have been locked) And derail a freight train and caused major damage and could have gotten someone killed, those are almost the railroads only options to prevent this from happening again now.
@@zachzebra56 I really hope it doesn't go that far.
After this video, I'm going to go to some Virtual Railfan live feeds at some of my favorite spots and check on any recent activity, by both railfans and cops.
Yesterday I went to see 4014's return to Cheyenne, and some dingleberry tried to get into the cab, but he relented when Ed told him off. Ridiculous as that was, I miss the days when that was the worst you could expect from railfans.
I met Ed Dickens when I got to see 4014 in New Orleans and he seemed like a nice guy.
@@HunterWilliams-le9bk He does seem nice. From what I could hear over the three dynamos and the idling of number 1983, he was diplomatic during his confrontation with the impulsive foamer.
Would that be trespassing to try to climb into a steam locomotive cab on a class 1 while it is idling but in active use? Probably yes. He had no prior permission to do that. I got to climb into 611's cab at Strasburg in Sept 2019 for a whistle blow I already had paid for. We rode behind 611 as well before that.
@@robkrasinski6217 Yes, it would.
I, from the start, thought it to be quite a coincidence that he happened to be RIGHT where the train derailed. Along with that, he already came up with a full-blown story of how an empty coal train had forgotten to realign the switch to the main after setting off a car. Already had an unlikely event, but he already came to the conclusion that the switch was misaligned well even before the investigation was complete. Also, judging by his reaction to the derailment, he handled it surprisingly well. I think most of us would have said some other things.
I mean he set it up so he’s not that surprised
When the previous train set out the defective car they would have had to realign the switch to the main to back onto the rest of their train, unless the defect was the very last car.
@Biwabik223 True. But usually, these coal trains have DPUs, which will have to be cut off, so I'm not sure if it would make a difference.
@@Biwabik223Exactly, and OMAX trains have DPUs, I haven’t heard of one that doesn’t.
It's not the first derailment in Bennet he captured either, allegedly. The account is there along with the video.
Yeah the heat is on us railfans because of smart guys trackside😑😒
Don't know if I would call him smart.........
@@user-mr3ct1dm9p you don't know sarcasm when you read it?
I am a railfan
He really isn't THAT smart, he is pretty dumb for that
@@STUAA2024read the reply section of this comment
As rail fans we should disavow this publicly and make it clear these people are not rail fans nor are they part of us.
That's meaningless. They're part of your community because you let anyone be part of your community. You have no organization that can police members and speak officially to other parties. You create a market of ideas and your social group financially rewards people who record events like this. This means that the criminals are part of the community since they feed off of it while using it as a shield. Had there not been trainians all over the world messing with trains, then there would be much more scrutiny for people who seem overly interested in the rail system.
Saying you disavow this criminal is like saying you 'stand with Ukraine;' it meaningless words unless you actually try to do something to help. Your opinion about a criminal disguised as yourself means nothing to the potential victims of criminals like him. Unless you can create an organized group akin to the VFW, Masons, or Rotary for your hobby that can punish criminals and speak for your group, then you'll always be burdened by criminals who try to use your hobby for their own personal gain regardless of the cost to you or to the rest of society.
When previous criminals within your hobby were causing problems in the past, you guys should've done something about that. You should've made sure to punish those individuals for tarnishing your reputation instead of just relying on the police to handle it. This is what groups like the VFW or Masons do when criminals enter their organizations and try to exploit them for person illicit gain. Those organizations make sure to punish the criminals harshly and distance them from their groups regardless of how well the police and courts punish the perpetrators. A bad doctor should fear his peers more than the law. A bad veteran who's a member of the VFW should fear their response to his illicit actions more than the punishment dealt out by the courts. When your social group has an organized system, then it can weed out the bad people and punish the criminals who try to weasel their way in.
@@ryelor123 IMO part of the problem is the idea that others can treat a "community" of loosely associated people as if it were some organization, which IMO means it is also important to call out idiots who generalize ALONGSIDE those who do dumb things.
The fact that one kid modified his Scanner or used a scanner that had a PTT button on it to ask the crew when are there trains coming is in my opinion the quickest way to go to jail.
"Any trains coming?" "Sure, let me check... what's your exact location?"
That WAS NOT a scanner. Most likely one of those Baofeng radios you buy on Temu for 20 bucks.
And, yes you CAN program them with RR band frequencies
@@WorldTravelA320 That’s what I thought.
@@WorldTravelA320 I wondered how that was done. I never saw a "scanner" with a PTT button. Insane these VHF radios are that cheap.
FCC loves when they get to break out the expensive toys... normally it is a pirate radio or such, violating the railway band will just make him more popular.
I maybe harsh! Good! As a retired Locomotive Engineer,I thought I had seen it all from irresponsible "foamers",Climbing on Equipment,running across tracks as we were bearing down on them,etc. I even had one character use a flashbulb to take a picture of me in the cab.I was running Multiple Unit Equipment. I thought the cab exploded and put my train into Emergency. Having said this,I have found that MOST railfans are respectful of Property and have even assisted us like when you are stuck somewhere when it is 95 degrees and somebody brings you a cool drink. This VANDAL should not be charged as he was. He should be charged with 2 counts of Attempted Murder and Felony Assault for the Engineer and Conductor,who I am sure suffered some sort of injury. This is WAY beyond the pale,and serious time should be given upon conviction.
Bro that radio transmission is a downright felony
Sure is, and an FCC fine. In the 90s, we had a guy here that modded an HT to talk on police frequencies. Hed cuss, yell at the top of his voice, threaten cops. He finally got caught .. 😮
@aoiasahinashusband its bad, what if someone was making a coupling or saying something important.
@aoiasahinashusband So radio frequencies are a multimillion fund for the government, anyone that doesn’t pay to transmit on those certain frequencies will be hunted down by the government. The railroad paid for exclusive use of those frequencies, long story short, don’t mess with the government’s money.
I had no license and I transmit on a Union Pacific Railroad line I got caught once
@aoiasahinashusband It doesn't matter what you're saying, transmitting on a frequency you're not authorized to use is a federal crime, end of story.
I would not call nor consider trespassing and vandalism rail fanning! Don’t demean the responsible!
5:41 The gross overuse of the term "terrorism" really drives me up the wall. Was this destructive act for the furtherance of political goals? As far as we all know, no. So it does not fit the definition of "terrorism," which is the act of, or threat of, violence in the furtherance of political goals. The way it's been misapplied and stretched by the government in the last 25 years to cover things it shouldn't is infuriating. The least we can do is not misuse the term, and check those that do, to start reining its use back in to where it ought to be.
Terrorism is just an extra charge they can throw on somebody to mess with them further.
You’re gross for defending such a terrible act of endangerment and stupidity. This is why railfans are no longer safe.
Havlock,
Legend has it that...
Another grossly misused term.
Welcome to the generation that never learned how to talk; but talks constantly.
@@PrinceWillPlaysOfficial Saying the use of the term "terrorism" is inappropriate isn't defending anything, you actual dipshit.
When Penquinz0 is talking about this guy, you know its over
On behalf of all people loving trains: Those people are not part of our community!
Absolutely agree 👍💯
Worked RR for a decade. Never had a problem with Railfans...always one apple ruins the barrel.
I'm desperately trying to understand why. Why did what he did reflect on railfans in any way? It's like saying pilots can't be trusted because one guy decided to crash his plane on purpose.
@@itwasaliens It doesn't, IMO.
"One bad apple" is bullshit, hobbies are not barrels of apples that face disease. "Good" railfans don't become bad just because there are bad people who like the same hobby,
That's a logical fallacy - "guilt by association" is a logical fallacy, and IMO using it as an excuse to deflect from people who generalize being held responsible for generalizing (which Briannat isn't doing, but others are) is just stupid.
@@DanknDerpyGamer”One bad apple ruins the barrel” Is a saying. For example, that one crackhead doing something stupid(eg. messing around with railroad equipment then Filming The result). makes everyone doing something similar(just Filming a train go by) look bad automatically.
@@Merri-bekRailfan *”One bad apple ruins the barrel” Is a saying"*
Yeah - but applying it to something as nebulous as a hobby or fandom is erroneous since the mechanics are not the same - and even in the scope of people doing bad things, the comparison falls apart, IMO, that's the point I'm trying to make.
I stick to myself and stay back from the tracks for a reason. Crews on my sub usually wave, and I've even gotten thrown a few hats. It's better not to do any stupid stuff. This has gone to far.
Thats why when I'm out railfanning i always keep eyes glued foward as the train goes by mostly for safety and in case something happens i got a head start.
If this person is a railfan, does that make a nitwit who drops a cinder block off of a highway overpass onto oncoming traffic an automobile enthusiast?
If the nitwit has previously posted auto enthusiast videos, then yes.
Considering how bad street takeovers are in the automotive scene, in the eyes of law enforcement yes they are.
That is giving nitwits a bad name.
No, because the railfan community had no barriers to entry and thus criminals could walk among them and use them to profit off of criminal activity. The guy dropping concrete blocks onto cars isn't part of any community except the pedestrian community and that community would actually physically punish him if they saw him doing that instead of sitting on the internet and whining. If you open your doors to everyone, then you're going to be inviting in problems.
@@ryelor123Barriers to entry are a silly thing to consider because the criminals don’t do it to be a part of any community. They do it for social media clout. And that has no barriers to entry. You don’t need to be licensed doctor to post medical advice on RUclips unfortunately,
although sometimes there is enough outrage that a video is taken down. You won’t ever get this for people filming trains though.
In my 20 years of being a railfan, I have never seen this kind of behavior from railfans. Ever! I've seen railfans do dumb things sometimes but this is a whole other level of stupid for what this railfan has done
No I'm sure none of you never looked at a no trespassing sign and thought hey I'm privilege I dont have to comply I'm a foamers.
@@rc391995 Do you not understand the concept of "whole other level"?
This is NOT a railfan.
That guy that derailed the coal train should be arrested, but I’m sure they’ll let him get away with it
Better not--- make an example out of him, otherwise others will try it.
No e spoke a language they well understand in the tune of a half million . his tender young ass is toast. I wouldn't be caught on the property now guarantee you will go to jail
🤣🤣🤣
He was arrested and is being charged, but we'll see how much sticks.
And how are you sure of that?
Since he's 17 and this is a pretty serious crime, he could be tried as an adult, so...
He will with the damage he caused
Nebraska won’t unless it like a class 2 or any one of the class ones felonies
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@@Kearneymort its rail road so its federal charges not state level so he could actually have it elevated to a class two with a terrorism charge thrown in alongside trespassing and tampering with rr property. potentially attempted murder too. just saying because federally when you get charged with a felony your getting tried as a adult regardless of age provided your above 4.
@@SiriusG BNSF having the state charge him. I live in Nebraska and use to work in the juvenile system and they hardly ever send juveniles to federal they usually have state do the court because we had more resources for juveniles then federal
@@Kearneymort It can Become a Fed Gov Case
0:19 Blud got that dramatic cinematic ice fall…
I am a railfan, but I'm A twelve year old, and I've never done trainspotting, and it annoys me when people are so foolish to trespass and nearly get hit by a train for kicks and giggles
You're already smarter than a certain 17 year old from Nebraska.
Lol. You had a RUclips account for 12 years already? Or is your kid using your account without your knowledge?
Here’s some context, as this incident is semi-local to me.
This is the OPPD arbor line, it runs from Lincoln, NE to Nebraska city, NE. The power plant in NebCity owns the line, a 3rd party maintains it, and BNSF hauls the coal to the plant over the line. There is one shuttle elevator that UP serves further east. This line is dark territory, also very hilly and curvy which requires trains to run 2x3, and they still stall out coming out of Lincoln on occasion. The crew of the empty train would’ve had to throw the switch back after setting out the defective car to put the train back together as stated above they had 3 DPUs. It was also said the switch had been tampered with and supposedly locked before the incident occurred with the loaded train.
It’s pretty obvious the kid did it, which tallies this up to being the THIRD incident to occur in the Bennet area in the last 3 years. This line was reopened in 2021 after 17 years of dormancy when BNSF got the coal bid back, the first incident in ‘21 was a washout causing a derailment NW of town, derailment 2 east of town when a bridge gave out in ‘22, and now this.
The account that uploaded the derailment video also uploaded another Bennet derailment from a year or so back. Well, claimed derailment. Quite the coinkydink doncha think?
@@JH-wd6dp That was a legit derailment, a wooden bridge gave out underneath one of the loaded coal trains. It was one of the bridges they didn't replace when rehabbing the line in late 2020 for the reactivation.
@@Rosso_Dabosso Oh for sure, I'm just not certain if his video titled as a derailment was that incident or something else. The video he uploaded shows a train stopping after passing his location.
A big difference now is that the kid used the train-sniffing community to make money from his criminal act. He wouldn't have done it if there wasn't a community that would praise him had everything gone to plan. This is why innocent people who are part of a group get blamed for the bad apples within their community. Train-lovers should've created an official club with membership and standards that would police the members of that hobby. Instead they didn't and they complained every time some criminal used their hobby as a means to profit off of crime.
This is why groups like the VFW, Rotary, Masons, various unions, and professional organizations all exist. Its so that their social communities can impose standards on its members and punish criminals beyond what the law itself would do. The trainsexual community should create their own trainwatcher organization so that stuff like this can't happen. If you want to annoy train captains - or whatever their drivers are called - without being labeled as a terrorist, then you need to weed out the criminals from your hobby lest they define you as another one of themselves.
Oh, wow. I didn’t realize trains there actually stall out. Might have to do with why the track was originally decommissioned.
The kid at 1:26 could not have "found a talk button on his scanner," that's like finding the "pop wings out and fly" button on a Honda Civic, it wasn't built with those parts. Kid must have been using a different kind of radio transceiver and set it up for the railroad frequencies. It's cheap. It's easy. It's STUPID. If someone knows to be looking for you, it's so simple to track you down that radio hobbyists practice it as a game, they call it "foxhunting". It gets punished severely when you get caught, the FCC can't be bothered if you interfere with ham radio hobbyists but they bring down the hammer of the gods if you mess with business bands. If you don't know what you're doing you could interfere with something safety-related like airport navigation aids or ambulances. Don't do it.
They never caught the Max Headroom TV pirate that interrupted a Chicago PBS Tv station back in 1987
FCC is cringe to be honest. I'm not saying we should interfere with safety-critical communications, but they regulate it too much. I shouldn't need a license to utilize physics, and I don't want those toy walmart radios either.
@@shamancredible8632 At least there are plenty of amateur and ISM bands that the FCC doesn't care about, to the extent that you can easily get away with high power unlicensed transmissions. Just don't do anything too stupid like jamming the band or transmitting out of band, both of which are likely to get some unwanted attention from the FCC.
@@shamancredible8632 Oh, just shut up. Safety regulations are written in blood. There's a reason private radio bands are heavily regulated. Screw your freedumbs.
you're very confident for someone unaware that radios are sold with PTT buttons
As if we weren’t cooked enough already 💀
Ikr. This might be the last straw for the railroads in regards to railfans.
They’re gonna start putting armed guards in trains because of this💀
@@DominikDavis-lf7wy That's definitely not out of the question unfortunately.
Even though I'm 14 still... kids these days
I’ll just ignore your age…
same here brother
Im really disappointed in why people (especially kids) like this exists..
Sucks that even adults double your age have no control over their maturity...Keep doing your thing lil bro and take notes cause railfanning might be outlawed someday
Even us in our 30s see people our age doing stuff like this. The only difference is that they're better at getting away with it due to experience.
god save the railfans out there just trying to enjoy this hobby like our lord and saviour BNSF 1458
I suspected something from the beginning when I saw jerk's video. He sounded so phony when he said "Oh wow! I can't believe this is happening"
im glad that as a british trainsportter, im glad our trainspotters aren't clinically insane
For now…
The Railfanning community is infact more messed up, my home address has been leaked by people in this community, I’ve moved into a 2nd house and it was leaked again. Asides from the foamers and trespassers, there’s some people in this community that leak others addresses. I was a victim of this.
Really?? Oh wow :(
How did these people even get ahold of your home address? I won't even share anything personal to keep absolute secrecy. And what happened when your adress was leaked? did people start showing up at your house?
idk
What did you do that led to people leaking your address? I've been in the railfan community for a whole now, and to be honest, you'd really have to set someone off for them to stoop down that low in the first place.
Here in Canada, I have meet a lot of railfans who are really responsible when it comes to ensuring they stay safe, apart from one idiotic old man who was yelling at my day saying that one specific railfan spot was his and we aren't allowed there which it Municipal property and we have every dam right to be there
As Person from the Railfanning Community, We do not claim that Guy
Doesn't even make sense that the crew left it open. If you pull up, and set out a bad order. You still have to line it normal to hook back into your train. Even if it was the last car. You'll still want to shove the train back to pick up the conductor
RIGHT!
They left unlock
@@ghostbaz12 even that varies. There're all kinds of different locks where you could do that, but the most common lock used by railroads is the Sergeant & Greenleaf High Security Environmental Padlock. Which can only be left unlocked, if the key is in it.
My railroad switchiies are locked
I’m going to add, OMAX trains run with DPUs.
“Some men are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.”
The same thing could be said about stupidity.
"...and others, fabricate greatness through acts of sabotage."
@@JH-wd6dp
Yes
There's a reason tracks are fenced up in other parts of the world. Maybe now this could put that idea on the table
That's probably more due to people stealing the rails for scrap.
In my career I’ve had encountered two railfans with keys.
I was a railroader for over 20 years between Amtrak OBS and CSX T&E. When I finally left, I made absolutely sure that they recorded my turning back in my radio and switch key, just for reasons like this, so I would not get a knock on my door from a special agent checking to see where I was when someone stupid did something like this within a hundred miles of me.
That is scary!
@@paulw.woodring7304 Hey Paul! Fancy seeing you here 🙂
Meanwhile in NYC, the MTA is spending some insane amount of money rekeying all subway car doors because there are tons of unaccounted for and unauthorized master keys floating around. Teens are getting into the control cabs and doing all sorts of bad things.
@@NotMyProblem711 I don't think railfans are the ones doing that. Sounds more like idiot kids who never got told no by mommy and daddy (who am I kidding, people who act like that don't have fathers)
That CSX clip was at Ashland Train Days in VA
I have always been a rail fan. But I would never do very dump and dangerous things like this kid. I had model trains and, when I was old enough, I went to work of the Southern Pacific Railroad. I had a great career with that wonderful railroad. Train wrecking is a Federal offense which can send you to jail for a very long time. To be a rail fan means that your "love" trains. And you don't try to destroy and cause problems for something that you love!
He ISN'T a Railfan, just a Clout-Chaser looking for online "cred".
@@abn82dmp Has anyone heard of that kid that derails trains for views and hasn't been put in jail?
He was like “Oh My FriCkiNg GoD”
He sounds so rehearsed tbh.
Yeah, I'm good at reading people, as in invited covertly to a couple of business lunches over the years, by friends, wondering if a potential partner or business sale was a scam. I thought from the beginning, when I first saw that kids video, he was "bad acting" ie rehearsed but badly acted. Sounded like a person getting busted for 5lbs of drugs, trying to tell the cops they've never even heard of that stuff, oh my god, really? It's what?
@@MrEricmopar he sounded scripted.
I've given up on the railfan scene because there have been too many of these kids who give it a bad name through their careless actions and attitudes. The most recent incident has really given the railfan community as a whole a really big black eye for which there will be long term consequences.
Good thing we have videos here in RUclips to watch.
2023 and 2024 were the worst years in railfanning history all because of foamers. If only foamers were ILLEGAL!
I mean the things Sebastian Deyoung and Capital City Railfan did are already illegal, so yes Foamers (or at least their actions of messing with railroad equipment) are already illegal.
@@Kenny_CopeFax
Least Metra is still friendly
@@thekidfromcleveland3944Yeah, I can agree
It's unfortunate that it has to be done, but it seems like we have to make it _more_ illegal. Trespassing on a railway (including railway property adjacent to but not near the line) should result in jail time. Period. No matter how seemingly minor it is.
Lets not confuse failfans with Tic Tokers. Railfans-intelligent, Tic Tokers-Not intelligent.
Yea sorry, I disagree. I've seen some pretty unintelligent railfans.
We can safely say the majority of tiktokers who do anything related to trains always do something stupid (like trespassing) but there are definitely a lot of dumb railfans as well like this kid who derailed the train
stop with the tiktok hate, okay we get it you don't like china, go away.
There's many stupid railfans out there. Sorry
debatable
If a previous train had set out a bad order on that track, they would have had to reline the switch back to the main to get their locomotives back to their train before they departed.
True railfans DO NOT interfere with operations or derail trains! No mercy for those guilty, PERIOD!! Juvie or above.
like i said in the previous video, i expect penguinz0 to cover this story aswell, considering how much coverage its been getting...
EDIT (27 July 2024; 16:30 UTC): I FUCKING CALLED IT!!!
Bro was right
@@BNSF1458 it was obvious, wasnt it?
So this is where the rest of us step up and show them all how real railfans act. For years now I've been saying we need to set the example, not try to be the exception, and now is the time we all really have to do that. Stay a safe distance from the tracks. Cross only at marked crossings, if crossing on foot, stop, check both ways, step over the rail. If we act reasonable and set the example for how to behave safely around trains, then the railroads and trains crews will not have any reason to dislike us.
Good luck with that
@@rc391995 It's worked well for me so far.
@@rc391995 Thanks. It's worked for me so far.
Im an 18 year old railfan, and as much as I (sorta) regret joining this community, it's one of my hobbies, and it's all in my blood.
Still, A PHACKING 17 YEAR OLD CHARGED WITH 3RD DEGREE FELONY
the Fed Gov may take it Higher
How stupid do people have to be nowadays, this kid could’ve gotten the crew killed
This is what happens when a generation of self-indulgent brats who’ve never been given boundaries by their parents or caregivers get social media accounts and use that for the attention they so desperately crave. I hate that I sound like a frustrated Karen, but this Gen Z bullshit makes my piss boil. Ship these assholes off to a developing country, take their phones and iPads away and make them work hard and live like the locals.
Im known on my old subdivision by some crews and maintainers ive gotten a vest and even crossing bells they know im not crazy. I have learned to stay back from the tracks after having a random reality check a couple months ago. Its just mind blowing to me how him having autism was an excuse to some people. Im putting my two cents on my channel soon.
Im Autistic and even I have the Common Sense to stay back from the tracks
@@Elliottblancher 😂 see theres no reason
I’ve gotten a few things as well. Have a decommissioned cross buck stashed away for some year to grace a shop wall given to me watching crews replace an overhead cantilever signal.
In 30 plus years being mindful and courteous I only got in trouble once. And yes I had to pay a small fine.
Up at the cascade tunnel, pre 9/11 we could almost walk up to the tunnel for shots. Post, even a decent 300mm telephoto makes shots different due to the Telesmoosh. I wanted a better shot so I entered the edge of the yard to and hiked to the Tye River Bridge and set up on the edge of the edge. 5 mins later I heard on the radio a “RF” was in the yard.
I didn’t try and run. I just was met by an officer at my truck.
I believe they have laxed it a bit recently but this will just make it harder.
@@danielhildebrand6892 agreed!
@@Elliottblancher I'm on the spectrum and I'm safeworking qualified at the railway I volunteer for
You know, I was telling someone a while back I'm starting to want to distance myself from the railfan community for all of these reasons. I don't understand what has gotten into people lately. I genuinely worry that within the next few months or years, even being spotted near tracks with a camera is going to warrant investigation or be outlawed entirely simply because people can't stand to keep their hands to themselves. I sincerely hope we can go back to being normal railfans and not genuine felons and delinquents.
I think that would go against freedom of speech since we can be filming from public property. But I’m sure we’ll get visited by rail police more often though.
@@devernepersonal3636 Maybe, but at the same time, if railroads start to genuinely worry that those trackside are a real threat to operations and safety, it's hard telling. I'll admit that outlook is fairly dark, but these days there's no telling what will happen. I'm sure anything like that would raise controversy, and end up at a much higher power than local police or railroad police.
@@SouthernKansasRailfan yeah i do see what you are saying man. though, i still think it will be alright. though i am not as hardcore of a railfan as i used to be simply because i never got lucky with "the good stuff" which the definition for has changed over time. I only say that because maybe i am less worried than i would be if i were still hardcore. but you will always have crazy people doing stuff. some that we will never hear about. i have distanced myself slightly, because a lot of railfans seem to be opiniated or bullies at times now. but also because photography opens up everything, not just trains.
@@devernepersonal3636 I've also pulled away from the community a big as well. I'm more focused on documentary filmmaking, but that's not to say I've lost an ounce of my passion for railroading and steam locomotives, just the community.
Real ones know this is a reupload
Cuz RUclips is bozo
@@BNSF1458yup
@@BNSF1458why are railfans stupid nowadays
@BNSF1458 yup I hate RUclips
Yup
1:54 "stop talkin on the radio" lmao he didn't sugar coat anything he just said it plain and simple💀
Millennium force cought a csx coal train not derail but a coupling snap and csx let him have the 2 pieces of the couple
That won't csx was bnsf train that derailed
@@ghostbaz12 what
bruh This kid should be grounded for life
He should go to jail.
Grounded? What is this, GoAnimate?
@LNERMallard you didn’t know?
he should do my dishes for free
What's a bruh?
Derailing a train ought to be a felony If not already
It is.
I'm gonna be that guy. Let's put down our pitchforks for a minute and admit that the idea this kid really did cause this derailment is mostly speculation.
1. This kid was filming trains at this spot for a long time. Railfans are contantly moving back and forth to try and get better shots. That can explain the security cam footage of his car, but that footage DOES NOT PROVE HE MOVED THE SWITCH.
2. The switch was supposed to be physically locked. From my research the lock was supposedly found to be missing, which could be explained by a railroad worker just plain forgetting. The kid could have cut the lock,, but there seems to be no evidence of him having that kind of equipment with him, nor that the switch was actually tampered with.
3. The lead investigator of this is EMPLOYED BY THE RAILROAD. How is that not a glaring conflict of interest? The company has a financial interest to blame this on malice rather than worker incompetence.
I'm sorry, but this evidence is just not compelling enough, and railfans love to pretend that their fellow railfans are idiots and the rail company can't do wrong.
I doubt the District Attorney works for the railroad. Besides, it will have to be proven to a jury.
This just pisses me, i hope railroads dont ban us from recording
I find not being forgiving to people, even Sebastian DeYoung to be a very heartless thing to do. Where is the mercy for a mentally ill kid? Even God commands us to be forgiving to our enemies and to love them.
There’s too many train wrecks in USA 🇺🇸 this sucks big time
Scanners don't have "talk" buttons.
He either had a 2-way, or that clip is fake.
Oh, almost forgot... The camera didn't show anyone actually doing anything with the switch, it only showed someone walking along the tracks, in the direction of the switch....
truckspotters and railfans…aren’t too far away from each other
Yeah, both are groups of annoying autists.
Also in the video, kid is breathing heavily like he knows its gonna happen. Then he screams "Oh my God" before impact even happens. Further more train that set of the bad order had dpu on rear. They had to line switch back to normal position to tie back up. Yet this kid says crew failed to set switch back correctly. Its also being reported that they are seeking to charge him as an adult, and if that happens, he'll serve some serious time. He'll be in juvenile hall until he turns 18, at which point he will be transfered to Prison.
He yelled "Oh my God" before the train hit a car on the same track. Should he have waited?
The train was off the “main” (don’t think I’d call the OPPD Arbor a main lol) before they were in the video.
They didn’t say “Oh my God” until right before it hit.
Yeah, OMAX trains run with DPUs.
19, not 18. You aren’t an adult in Nebraska until you are 19.
As an engineer myself I tend to dislike FOAMERS. There have been time when I don’t blow the horn for them because I’m already 10 hours into a shift that started at 1 in the morning and they end up flipping me the bird. FOAMERS that get too close to the track because they NEED that perfect shot of a train. I have no respect for them.
How do you feel about hobos, tramps, and crustpunks?
Which is why I stay in my car and simply record the trains through my windshield.
You can go to stations n stuff. Or just a stretch of track with no switches or nothing by em. Stay the allotted 50 ft or so and don't record people or trains standing around. If things are moving people won't care. Least in my experience
He's got a job at CNN!
Autism is one hell of a drug
Agreed (as an autistic)
Yep unfortunately not bad enough to take me to The 27 club but it's still pretty awful to live with
More like attention, just because someone is autistic doesn't guarantee they will be criminals.
I’m not sure autism had anything to do with it.
Im autistic and I agree man
Pretty sure I heard that they're trying him as an adult later on.
I still believe in the railfan community, there’s still normal railfans out there, and many people still do this hobby. Although I’m still young at 14, even I don’t do this. I guess you could say the “dumbest” (not really dumb) thing I did was stand a little close to a crossing signal for a good train angle. The train crew didn’t seem to mind when I did it either, I may have gotten lucky
I wonder if his parents could be charged with neglectence of what happened without knowing that it even happened. If it was even worse, he could've cost his life, but instead, he has cost himself near death, taxes, and jail time
I'm sure the BNSF will sue as well. I hope they have umbrella insurance.
Foamers trespass constantly and put others in danger. They are a pain in the butt to the RR community.
Next from him:prision cell tour
Next crime:I destroyed a crossing,switched a switch,and destroyed a train
I’m not a railfan myself, but I occasionally film some trains like DART, TRE and TexRail during holidays. I played video games and sometimes stream than filming trains and sirens.
Last I heard is that he was sentenced to a $10,000 fine. There was probably more, but let's hope he learns the lesson not to tamper with the equipment again.
He should have to pay the whole bill of $350,000.00
@@dkservice424 And serve time.
I'm also a railfan, but I'm NOT an idiot like them. I know that I shouldn't do these sorts of things and will not do them.
I Used to be a Foamer before i realized it could had me fucking killed me so Tip Never EVER! Go onto a line and switch the line it can kill you if you change the points
PSA: Trains are Big trucks
Oh another coming out of the closet
It seems like in the past year or so, people that are railfanning with shady intent are getting more and more bold. Kinda feel bad for honest railfans at this point.
350K?
My local government would def turn that into a 10 mil repair at least
It has been YEARS since I last railfanned in any meaningful way. While I can't say I never trespassed on RR property, I never stepped on rails, walked on bridges, walked "inside the gauge", and I always kept a good sense of what was going on around me. I enjoy watching trains with VRF, Steel Highways, and some other channels.
Sebastian deyoung on caffeine type shit
This train enthusiasts chaos is also happening here in Singapore btw.
Which really surprises me, because Singapore employs literal torture (caning) as official state punishment.
Hi, every so often I hear what I assume to be unauthorized transmissions on the NJ Transit frequencies.
I think they should have asked where he was so the railroad police would come, but oh well.
Just to be clear, just because he got video of a train derailing doesn't mean it had help being derailed. There are plenty of videos on youtube and elsewhere that show trains being derailed. I have seen a train derail while sitting a crossing. Now in this case there seems to be other evidence that he had something to do with it and he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. All I'm staying is just because he managed to video it, doesn't mean he had something to do with it.
That female rail fan in Mexico that was killed was idiotic.
I was on a Metra train and a kid with a radio was talking to the conductors with the UP frequency (AAR 52)
To be fair some of the metra crews are chummy with some of the more well known railfans in Chicago. I've seen meetups at the IRM. It's not common but I have seen it. We were once on the platform at Stone Ave and somebody whose in like flynn asked if the Q heritage unit was running that day. Sure enough conductor replied wait about an hr 20. Sure enough got a beautiful run by.
We’re cooked guys
Real
There's nothing we can do
Peace brothas 🫡
If the railfanner community keeps getting worse they might even make it so bad that they ban anyone from Railfanning…
Bullshit!! If you're on public property they can't say shit!!
So nobody is talking about it but has anyone noticed how this kid is breathing very heavily as the train approaches? Almost like he knew exactly what was gonna happen.
Woah.. the transitions of 1458 looks nice
$500,000 fine and 10 years in Fed Penitentiary
I don't think it has been charged federally.
Thats domestic terrorism and attempted murder....
Terrorism is violence with political goals. What political agenda was the kid trying to push by derailing that train...?
It doesn't help that train crews didn't really like us so much already, this is just going to make it worse...
My scanner (Uniden BC75XLT) does not have a talk button
The one who transmitted likely had a Baofeng transceiver.
@@johndeerefan725that’s why I decided to get a Uniden because I would likely accidentally transmit on railroad property
The Oh my god is just... beautifully fake.
Holy shit, he covered it too
The Mexican thing is very unsurprising since I watch off road racing...if you have any familiarity with the Baja 1000 then you know what I'm talking about.