I was explaining this to my girlfriend. Like I made it to stage 2 of the qualifiers but I told her I'm not going to actually do it because there is a 0% chance of me winning unless for the next 72 hours I sit in a chair. Because if I don't do it someone else will. Yep I qualified but didn't compete because I have things to do, and I know what it actually takes to win.
I was mostly interested in the rewards so I just took my qualifier and went back to standard ladder. I guess it's kinda good since it does cull out alot of players that mostly stumbled upon the second round leaving the more dedicated and skilled players to duke it out as they should.
We all have lives and there's no valid reward (except for the worlds ticket) to sit and play the maxx c minigame for 72hs straight not being able to play other decks bc you need to play the best thing to get wins so you play fire mirrors, fire vs stun, fire vs mikanko, fire vs x deck every time
But doesn't that apply to every competition? Imagine training your whole life only to lose. Welcome to the world of Competition. I guess people should just quit trying eh?
Besides the health concerns, I also hate the issue of the time required because it sort of kills the idea that the qualifying process is truly open. Its really only the people who can afford to commit their time solely to master duel for 3 days that can win, when most people have commitments with stuff like work, family, and other normal life things. It should be obvious that the overlap between the best players and the players who can make that commitment is extremely high, but changing the process to be something an average player could at least give an honest attempt at would do a lot to drive home the point that it truly is skill that separates the top players from the rest.
People who have life going on and family stuff are probably not the super competitive players who put the goal to get 1st place. If someone wants to really qualify, he would clear the 3 days to commit to doing it. This applies to ever form of competition on a high level.
Totally agree, whats the point of trying to get a good score when you know there is someone on the other side of the world who has triple the time you have, it's just a waste of time to even try, especially with the joke rewards jn stage 2. And let's not even talk about the account sharing problem...
I think the same. For example in theory their could be one player who is rly the best in the world from a skill perspection. But maybe the player has kids, and maybe it isn't possible for the player to leave the kids allone. So the player can't play for 72 Hours. The take that u can only be a good or competetive player if u have time to play for 72h is ridiculous.
Ive said for years that stage 2 should be “game based” not “time based” it’s so much more feasible to get in like 10 or 20 games in a 24 period to accumulate points vs over the course of 72 long hours. Another solution is a tournament with a set date & time after the first stage is over🤷🏻♂️
Lol ahh no. It wouldn't change a thing that's liberal thinking enforcement. The fact is it's once a.year humans can handle 3 days of playing a game. Health reasons lol zzzzzzzip cowboy the fk up
What if you only got 100 duels instead of the 72hr limit. Whatever your win percentage would be after 100 duels, doesnt matter when you complete them. That would be your rank, and after the 100 duels it would be a final percentage.
Nah, bad idea. That will leave way too much up to randomness. You can just get lucky on your cointosses, queue up into a lot of bad matchups, happen to draw Maxx c a lot, just queue up against good players a lot more... There is a lot that you can't control for in just 100 games
What's actually gold is that Jesse is talking about health and working out when he's obese himself and must eat the absolute worst food in the world to have his face skin be so messed up.
@robinwesterbeeke1498 What in the actual world? You don't know his life at all except for the small portion you see on yt videos, he could be desperately trying to get in better health as far as we know, yet you're insulting him and assuming he doesn't care about his body at all. He could have a health problem that could make him gain weight faster cause those exist and aren't uncommon, yet you're trying to make him feel bad about himself
@@whiteshadow2535 I know that he's looked the same for a long time which would indicate that he is either not trying or he is but it isn't working. While health problems can cause weight gain, they don't violate the law of thermodynamics. Even when you're sick or suffering from some conditions you can still reduce weight gains to simply kcal in vs kcal out. It might be unfair because it means that if he is suffering from something he will have to put in 10 times the effort a normal person does to make sure his energy intake < energy expenditure but it is still very possible to do so. So no, he doesn't get my sympathy.
@@MrKickassFTW I’m not so sure. What I am sure of is that he has improved his presenting skills and talking into the camera. That probably distracts from how he looks.
TCG/OCG players growing aware of the madness of Konami's rules and systems in these qualifiers some 7 years after Duel Links players have been sounding the bell and being shunned as "not real ygo"
I think having a separate ladder that‘s open to climb for 3 months instead of 1 month like the usual ranked ladder could do it. Players high on this ladder could get to go into bo3 qualifiers in the last week or something like that.
I mean theres nothing actually stopping you from doing this by just playing with 2 devices at the same time. You would also be trading off sleep to do this which just isnt really worth it
I made it to stage 2 of the qualifier, that’s when I realized I had to do it all over again but with points now. I wanted to keep going but genuine just didn’t have the fire in me to keep playing. Especially after seeing the leader board and how so many people already had thousands of points
So excited to see what deck everyone is going to be playing, rescue ace snek, Fire King snek, Pure snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, and mikanko.
Putting a time gives a massive advantage more aggressive decks who are able to play more games. It should be a week long event that caps the ammount of games you can play either per day or total for the event
While capping is absolutely better than what we have now and should happen, suggesting capping to 100 games or less is a rather shortsighted solution, as in addition to problems like people being able to go on multiple accounts to have multiple chances, people suggesting this don't seem to realise is that this flat out just wouldn't work as that is way too few games. Thousands of people will be able to play that many games which means so many people will end on the exact same record that the ranks would end up way too congested with there being only 100 possible results (many of which won't be reached because ofc no one is going to go 100-0 or 0-100 so it's even less than that). So what this means is that there will surely be way more people that get the top win % per region than the 1 or 2 available slots so with what they have now this doesn't work. So to do something like this you would need one of 4 changes. The number needs to be a lot higher than 100 (although idk what number would be viable) but then you run back into the health issue. They could add a tiebreaker system similar to irl tournaments based on opponent's strength (and opponent's opponent's strength if extra is needed). But idk if I was someone who did well I'd be very mad if I missed out on qualifying just because of the matchmaking system giving me weaker opponents, although saying that pokemon has online events with a very limited game cap so I assume they have tiebreakers to decide position (idk I have never played in one) and I haven't seen people complaining about those tournaments so maybe it would be fine. If they just keep it at 100 without anything special, they'd either they have to increase the amount of players that go to worlds similar to pokemon's worlds. Or run a second tournament to cut down however many people to the 1 or 2 region slots. Which while would both be great solutions imo, I'm pretty unoptimistic that they'd do this as they haven't changed this format yet when its been complained about a lot from both MD and Duel Links and these 2 solutions would take a lot more effort on konami's part than what I believe they're willing to put in. Anyway all of this is to say that limiting the number of games instead of the time is probably an unviable solution without work from konami.
If they were to keep this format (I know they're very stubborn when it comes to changing their formats), they should at least limit the ammount of games you can play in stage 2 to, say, 100. That way you can still grind, but don't have to grind the entire weekend and are not punished by not being able or willing to pause your entire life for 3 days straight in order to have any chance of qualifying.
I played a good 20 hours the first day, I was playing scareclaw.I got to 16,000 dp. I was pretty happy at the rate I was going. I didn't want to win, I just wanted to push myself to my limit and see how far I could go. But by the second day I was doing a lot worse, and went down to 13,000. So after about 12 hours I decided I just need a break so I could be ready to push it the next day. On the 3rd day I played until the minute it ended and just went on a horrible losing streak right at the end and ended with 8,000dp and feel terrible. I would've been content with 16,000, ideally I was trying to hit 20,000-30,000, but 8,000 just felt awful.
I really appreciate that you approached this subject pretty objectively. You made sure to give time to the benefits as well as the downsides of the system, which I don’t usually see. I’ve been thinking for awhile that the system is actually really good for selecting the best players consistently (why players like me won’t reliably make it to the very top) and while it has its issues I don’t see a good way to select for the best players that looks very different from the system we currently have. I like the idea of just putting a hard cap on total hours per day on the qualifiers. In some sense that might actually improve the selection process because it would filter out the people who are able to artificially inflate their numbers just because they have so much more ability to spend time on it. I think it’s worth considering extending out the selection process as well, honestly to as long as a week depending how hard you cap the time. But compare it to any other game or sport and the qualifier system we have looks a little bit nuts (hearthstone’s is similar though). I’m certainly not a good enough player to make this call myself but I think it would be cool if there was a more transparent discussion about this between the organization and the players
I agree that limiting the amonunt of games could do, but using a time limit doesnt really solve It since that IS how it's already handled (72 continuos hours). I think the real aproach is to limit how many games would count (i.e 75 games/day) since It would encourage people to play better games instead of faster ones
Allow 24 hours. Period. Put things on a timer that can be used over the course of 'X' days. This allows people to do it as hard or as leisurely as they want in their own time. It's so easy and mind blowing Konami does not do this.
I was talking about this with my friends last week. Personally i think it’s better to give everyone certain amounts of matches like everyone has 100 matches. Or just do it point system and the players with most points at the end of the year wins or the best 32 players compete for title or like every months or 2 that Konami helds big tournaments and the best among them compete at the end of the year
A way to get around or fix this 72 hour issue is to increase the time allowed and then set a number of duels total to complete like 500 duels over the course of a week so you can get a more accurate take on who’s the best over the course of 500 duels
I think how cod mobile handles qualifiers works well, you have a longer time (I think about a week), you play a certain number of games, you gain points depending on your rank, so if you want to gain more points you can rank up first before playing your qualifier matches. They have multiple stages, basically first stage is singles, where you just need a minimum number of points out of 10 games to proceed to stage two which is teams where you have 30 games and gain points, and top 128 per region move on to stage three, and so on.
But in the end, majority players that can qualify to the top are the player who literally live for YGO. For normal people, this still an unfair format. . I think Master Duel can just try to be a normal competitive online game. Move the point system to the higher rank, Master 1 for now. Then, top 100-200 players can duel outside the game, or make it better, Konami create an online competition, and only top 100-200 can enter to get the world ticket. In chess, you know something called as ELO System. Usually you can join a tournament based how many ELO you have. . Yes, skill is needed. I know you mention it a little. But the "time" is also very important in current system. If you don't have time for it, just forget it.
This assumes that everyone plays paper along with master duel. I bet there are a bunch of people that only play MD because it's possible to play F2P vs having to drop thousands on a T1 deck in paper. If the competition is in the client it should stay in the client and never overlap with paper.
@@RandomGuyCDN I never said anything about paper YGO. I mean, they can make Point or ELO system in Master 1. And the top players with highest points can join tournament like Challenger Cup (You should know if you follow EU and US YGO streamer, like Farfa, he host Challenger Cup a lot) to get the ticket for World Cup.
They should do what Pokémon does for vgc online challenges your allowed like 10 games a day and if you miss a day you can make up the games then you dont have to play as many games as possible
I made it to stage 2 as usual but didnt even know stage 2 had started. Maybe its just me but it didnt seem clear on the dates on the main page to the event. I never get to grind since i work a lot and have a family but always make it a goal to get top 5k which is typically 20k plus pts which isnt bad if i go on a decent streak
If the format to qualify in this championship were to be more friendly to the best players in the world, we would be having the same players participating in it too often. Then, other players will feel discouraged due to the fact that they're not good enough to beat those players. Despite this is the ideal thing to happen from the competitiveness and quality of players perspective, it would be detrimental for the business of Konami. So, I think its more "fair" to have a grind system to this qualifications. The talent is needed but the determination is the key. Anyways, in the end, your health should be more important than a stupid digital cardboard championship.
What if theres more than 2 stages? What if they do 50-75 duel limit stages. And the people with the top records if tied move onto the next. And sure it would thin out enough to not have that go on forever and use an algorithm to pair everybody up against one another
Probably reducing the time to 2 days / 1 weekend can help with the time issue. Maybe the elo point formula can be slightly tweaked to reward a bit less people who play more. Mathematically, you can create a point system where the number of games you play doesn't matter or a system where it's all that matters or any variants in-between. There is nothing math can't solve.
I think having a cap for amount of games would fix a lot of these issues. A big enough number to keep the sample size high, and not incentivize people to have a bunch of accounts, but not so big that people will have to give up sleep over it, or do account sharing. Something reasonable for a person playing for 3 days, 10h a day
Guys, i have an actual question about effects not activating. So i was dueling this guy, and hes destroyed my Starving Venom fusion Dragon, he effect is to destroy all special summoned monsters when he is destroyed. So he got destroyed, and i chose to activate the effec, but then gave the opponent a chance to react, but the opponent chose to do nothing, and after it went back to me, the effect never activated. Can someone tell me why please?
"Title" Add it to the list that's always growing and never shrinking. Real talk: The true winners are the people who saw this start and immediately went, "Yeah, no.".
Of the 20 duels I played in the 2nd stage, 16 of them I lost the coin toss. I have never had that kind of bad luck on the toss when I played ranked. By the time I won a toss, the opponent surrendered before my turn even started. Definitely need a match format, and wonder if anyone had this same problem?
as a 26 year old my body cant do 3 days straight maybe 2 at most but this is insane if i was younger yea my mind and body could sit there for 3 days and grind non stop easy asf but now hell no
@@tolesla3921I'm 27, I think my body could handle it but I'd get extremely depressed while I'm playing. I need some sunlight and 1 - 2 hours of physical activity, even if it's just light exercise, to stay sane. Also at 27 and single even I find it hard to make the time to do nothing but game for 3 days. I'm sure people who manage their time differently can and will do that. But if your body's the problem at this age, you propably have other problems than qualifying for worlds.
@@tolesla39213 days straight isn’t good for you physically or mentally regardless of your overall health. Anything longer than 48 hours and you’re just begging for hallucinations and/or a psychotic episode
@@DonnieY23 If you plan to be awake for 72 hours you should be in jail, for your own good. But sleeping for a couple of hours and then playing non-stop is definitely doable
I actually don’t think it’s bad that the points are only updated every hour because, in my opinion, as a competitive, good player, you shouldn’t stop participating in the tournament once you realize you’re already ahead. It shouldn’t matter how good your opponents or competitors are. As a good or competitive player, your goal should always be to get the most out of yourself and always be 100% better than everyone else. You can only be sure of this if you keep grinding all the time, even without knowing how many points you have. On the other hand, if you’ve played through the first two days and have a lead of tens of thousands of points and want to take a break, the hourly updates can’t give you the confidence to take a break. But I’ll put it this way, in a tournament where everyone wants a spot in the World Championship, that kind of security shouldn’t really be there either.
you could change it so that its 2w long and allow people to compete for a certain total amount of games like 100 or so that way people wanting to compete can throw their games in for the day and stop once theyre happy with it.
Honestly, I think there is a simple way to solve the bad aspects of such a qualifier on Konami's side. Just make them start considering winrates in the DP algorithm after a certain DP limit. Not everyone plays to get the invites, and there is enough data to know which limit is a good cutoff.
I dont get why they dont have rolling mini-tourneys over a week or something, and then on the seventh day have a tournament for the victors where the top 2 or something make it to worlds. or something like that. Online isnt a venue cost, or whatever.
I think if anything locking the number of games per day in the cup would be ideal. Even if its a crazy number like 100. This would one force quality over quantity of games played but also force people to log off at some point to rest. Also it would discourage people from having other people on their accounts as you wouldn't need to be up for 72 hours.
Yeah I usually just play for gems. This time I actually tried. I got to Lv15 quick. Then I had 2 ish days of "connection issues" costing me games, when there was nothing wrong on my end. Then I was able to get back in, and ended on Lv18. Ran pure chimera, and ran into just snake-eyes, salamangreat, horus, tear, and of course, kashtira. It was frustrating. Seemed like 1 loss set me back so much.
There should be a poitns threshold that forces the first say 20k to reach it to qualify. Then the next phase should be held at a different time as a special event for those 20k. That should pick the duelist with the best win rate after a set number of games. You get 100 duels. Everyone shoule be ranked based off win percentage. Take the top 8 and let them play in a tournment bracket 2 out of 3. Winner qualifies
I would like to know how random master duel really is. With all algorithms and data collection,the game can decide to give a favourable hand to an opponent that is less likely to win ! Same with SBMM in COD if you know what i mean ! Its a AI controlled data that is very easy to manipulate and set up favourable result . And not just by opening hands but also while top decking the game knows which card is good or bad to draw depending on the current game state. It kinda kills off the pure randomness that you get while playing physical card game.
I have no experience with tournaments so maybe the participants wont like this but wouldn't it be more fair and balanced for everyone including those who work to just have a set amount of duels like 100 for example to complete within a week and those with the highest win rates will then compete until you have those for the tournament bracket? This current process seems to punish those who do not have the ability to dedicate 3 days to do nothing but play
With an online qualifier like this there is no time constraints like at a venue. Why not just stretch it out over a week capping number of games per day? That way you still have the high number of games ( reduce variance) and not be glued to a chair for 72 hours.
Thank you for this video, it’s really important to talk about this kind of stuff! Personally, i’m a really big fan of how Pokemon handle the World Championship, allowing more people to qualify makes them more accessible without taking away the competitiveness of the event (the best players will always be there) making it a true final celebration of the season. Also, with more slots available to qualify, the qualifications would be less exhausting for the players themselves, perhaps leaving the more “aggressive” part only to have the paid trip for by Konami, I really think it would benefit everyone🙏🏻
Funny enough all the high level pokemon players are complaining about how "easy" it is for anyone to make it to worlds. But i agree anyone should be able to go for it and make it and maybe make a huge run at worlds as a dark horse
Hey man, I noticed you slowed down your speech just a tad and spoke much more clearly. I don't know if this was intentional or not but I really appreciated it. I'm big fan of your content, my only criticism has been that it can sometimes be hard to focus on and understand what you're saying. Good stuff, keep it up man!
The problem I have with the system is that the 1st placer choose the other 2 and the other 2 top of the region in the game gains nothing. I would like a system where: 1- the top 3 are the team representatives, no "choosing the youtuber" shit Or 2- All 3 top 3 can make a regional team and the main event have a regional elimination phase.
My only complaint is quality of duels in tournaments just having decks in tournaments with gimmicks to stall a duel to a crawl or lock out players from doing anything really isnt appealing diffently when expecting a good match to get gozen match dim barrier there can be only one and what ever stall gimmick to just have to surrender needs to be standards diffently if players are expecting more then a prize card or some small prize
I've almost 2000 hours on Master duel and I participate on the Worlds every year now, last time I went up only to 9k but this time I went up to 21k, I honestly think it's really good to have the opinion of a pro like you about the subject. Found myself specially soothed by seeing you ALSO had 1 hour -12k point streaks at times, just like me. I personally feel that the 72 hour problem is tiring and might be bad for people's health, yes you can play less games but then you'll have to perform better which means using better cards and having better deckbuild but even that has no guarantee on a best of 1 format with coin flip. I do think rolling 2 dice each and compare the total open up much more of a chance for the "go first" or second patterns to be more broad. While in coin, there is ONLY yes or no, it's 50/50 so it gives less variation.
I think limiting hours is bad. Do it like clash of clans comp scene. Limit the amount of games you can play per day. For example clash of clans raids per day for the comp league is 8 attacks per day max and 8 defences per day max.
I was actually wondering why nobody has talked about the stage 2 system for duelist cups and wcs for MD. It's absolutely terrible. No idea why they don't just cap the limit to 100 duels over 3 days.
You are so right Jesse. My Deck is going First very powerfull. I can do Something going second but it can be very hard when opponent Just got full combo. I counted my Coin Flips. The result cannot be random. I lost 13 Out of 15 Flips. After that i lost 9 Out of 10. 2 Coin Flip wins in a row was maybe 3 Times. It is so annoying when Skill doesent even Matter.
I qualified last year and this year as well but there is no way in hell I'm playing for 3 days straight. I don't even bother playing on stage two because of it.
Why don't they make it like you have a set amount of duels to prove yourself For example : you have to duel 100 duels in 3 days and that's it. Based on your result you can either qualify or not and the top dogs proceed
Yeah I agree there definitely should be a limit on how much time you can spend playing because it’s not healthy nor should anyone be sitting down playing a game for 20+hrs and we know people are doing just that and probably utilizing other people play on there account as well just to get the most points.
Maybe I am wrong but I really would like for it to be a 4 days system with a cap of 10 hours a day for the first 3 days and on the last day it should only available for an specific amount of time for everyone(lets say the last 8 hours)
Stuff like this is why I, as a rule, never play in official tournaments. A company that both prints cards AND hosts events should be viewed as an illegal monopoly (anti-trust violation). These should be different organizations. But even without an anti-trust suit, the solution is just to create a non-Konami tournament that is more prestigious.
i understand how having so many games reduces the variance of loses to bad hands/coin flips and whatever, and even in paper formats you see how the better players will always come out on top. what i dont like is how a 72 hr grind is how konami chose to do it. like even if you say like 90% of the player base isnt realistically gonna be grinding for the top spot, those that do a kinda forced to do something pretty unhealthy. to me the whole system for duel links and master duel just was chosen just cause its the easiest and least effort thing that konami can do.
Each duelist in the second stage gets a certain amount of duels (lets say 100) over the span of a few days ( Lets say 72 hours). Players with the highest score after 72 hours and/or having played 100 duels move on.
The last reward in stage 1 is just a title. It's useless. In stage 2, to get decent rewards, you'd have to perform pretty well, for a long a$$ time. I usually don't even finish stage 1, and stop 1 reward short. In short: I'm not even interested in qualifying to stage 2, as I know that I wouldn't be able to keep dueling for 3 days straight to get a decent result.
So, I'm putting this here before watching the video, but for me as a Duelist, qualifying for the Regional Championships was smooth sailing, but by the time I woke up in the morning the lead those grinders had on me already seemed insurmountable, and I'm not spending 2-3 days with no sleep, living off of peanuts, grinding games in Master Duel just to prove myself. With the competition structured the way it was there was basically no incentive to play the Regional Qualifier part of the event at all, and that's too bad. I'd appreciate if they capped players to a certain number of matches, or otherwise organized the qualifiers to take place over a shorter period of time, I'd gladly play 8 hours of Yu-Gi-Oh! but waking up at 6am my time to stay up for 3 days is simply asking too much of me.
Pokemon Go has a maximum number of battles you can do a day. They also have an ELO system where you gain rank with wins and drop rank with losses. Yeah it's a completely different game, but I think that concept would work perfectly well in Master Duel during these specific events.
They should do something closer to what the Pokémon games have done, where you have a limited number of matches you can play in the online tournament per day.
The people playing 72 hours straight 100% have someone else on their account. There's no way you can do top level play for that long without making mistakes. I like the 6 hours of playtime blocks, or maybe 30-40 games per day cap so that people don't have to literally play for 3 days straight, it's just ridiculous that's a system someone came up with. Imagine if in person regionals were ran this way lol
I dont think top playes winning can be exclusively tied to a lack of variance. it's also because they have the time and resources to compete for 72 hours straight
They should really cap the amount of duels you can do to contribute to your point cost and should instead focus on the quality of duels and award points based that.
Why cant we just have tournament brackets instead of the random battle city type of deal. The more brackets you win, the better. I honestly think that's better than the dum point system.
As a returning player who got back into Yugioh through master duel it shouldn’t be used as a competitive outlet UNLESS they do make a best of three mode for the competitive parts of the game
1. I think this is people’s biggest grievance with the style of tournament. I don’t think it’s SHOCK FACTOR either, master duels been around for awhile andddd duel links has the EXACT same system. Konami has to address this, not only because of reasons you gave in the video, but also it deters/hinders many great duelists away from playing. 2. Cheating is gonna happen 🤷🏻♂️ and “at home playing master duel” it’ll be even harder to monitor but people cheat irl so cheating isn’t that big of a concern to me 3. The ranking system constantly updating seems relatively impossible, at best it could be every 15 minutes, but even then I don’t think it would work 4. The best of one is the way master duel is don’t play master duel if you don’t like best of one Thank you for coming to my Ted talk😅
It's the good old Duel Links problem. I will not stay awake for three days straight to qualify for an event. I will not destroy myself. Jesse can feel free to do that if he thinks it's worth it though.
did i miss something? is jesse pro this type of entering worlds even though he has never toped one of these himself? this year ryan toped the events and last year it was rayman who invited them.
Always hated this type of event, they do the same thing in Duel Links too, iirc. You either need to have nothing going on or take time off work/obligations & play back to back just to keep up your score & not everyone can justify doing that even if its something they'd like to do.
The only thing not adressed here is the amount of cheaters. (I stumbled upon at least two every DC or WCQ 2nd stages. My most recent one was with this Synchro spam deck that run the adventure engine and then uses Thrust to Card Destruction after they play around enough in the Maxx C challenge, and their monster effects cannot be negated by imperms and veilers.)
As a Duel Links player since 2017 welcome to the pain and suffering lol. Although I've never taken stage 2 seriously because it takes literally hundreds of games to place in the top
Just out of curiosity what do you mean by toxic? Stun Decks? Stalling? Because just based on the streams I watch, it seemed less of those as they get higher in rank, infact it was almost non existence in the upper echelon.
I was explaining this to my girlfriend. Like I made it to stage 2 of the qualifiers but I told her I'm not going to actually do it because there is a 0% chance of me winning unless for the next 72 hours I sit in a chair. Because if I don't do it someone else will. Yep I qualified but didn't compete because I have things to do, and I know what it actually takes to win.
I was mostly interested in the rewards so I just took my qualifier and went back to standard ladder. I guess it's kinda good since it does cull out alot of players that mostly stumbled upon the second round leaving the more dedicated and skilled players to duke it out as they should.
Yeah - watching people stream like 8 hours every day to top. Not worth it.
Same
Not everyone is a streamer and does this sort of thing for a living. Most people have other things to do besides play yugioh for 3 days straight.
We all have lives and there's no valid reward (except for the worlds ticket) to sit and play the maxx c minigame for 72hs straight not being able to play other decks bc you need to play the best thing to get wins so you play fire mirrors, fire vs stun, fire vs mikanko, fire vs x deck every time
Imagine playing 72 hours straight and still not becoming first so it was all for nothing
No participation gems, no real prize for anything past 2nd…all of that just sucks.
And even if you win you don’t get paid
There was a streamer last year, maybe Coder or Sam who literally missed out by 1 spot. They played nearly 3 days straight
@@wizchrills2889 I saw
But doesn't that apply to every competition? Imagine training your whole life only to lose. Welcome to the world of Competition. I guess people should just quit trying eh?
Besides the health concerns, I also hate the issue of the time required because it sort of kills the idea that the qualifying process is truly open. Its really only the people who can afford to commit their time solely to master duel for 3 days that can win, when most people have commitments with stuff like work, family, and other normal life things.
It should be obvious that the overlap between the best players and the players who can make that commitment is extremely high, but changing the process to be something an average player could at least give an honest attempt at would do a lot to drive home the point that it truly is skill that separates the top players from the rest.
People who have life going on and family stuff are probably not the super competitive players who put the goal to get 1st place. If someone wants to really qualify, he would clear the 3 days to commit to doing it. This applies to ever form of competition on a high level.
Totally agree, whats the point of trying to get a good score when you know there is someone on the other side of the world who has triple the time you have, it's just a waste of time to even try, especially with the joke rewards jn stage 2. And let's not even talk about the account sharing problem...
@@deanefe9 It would have to be a career at that point. One of Konami doesn’t pay you for. That makes no sense.
I think the same. For example in theory their could be one player who is rly the best in the world from a skill perspection. But maybe the player has kids, and maybe it isn't possible for the player to leave the kids allone. So the player can't play for 72 Hours. The take that u can only be a good or competetive player if u have time to play for 72h is ridiculous.
They should limit it to like 50 games a player
Ive said for years that stage 2 should be “game based” not “time based” it’s so much more feasible to get in like 10 or 20 games in a 24 period to accumulate points vs over the course of 72 long hours.
Another solution is a tournament with a set date & time after the first stage is over🤷🏻♂️
yeah maybe say 30 games then swiss with the people with 28+ wins
I like this idea
I stopped after level 19 because I earned all the gems and there’s no way I’m wasting time grinding for 72 hours with no sleep
Konami should put a duel limit to everyone at phase 2, like you can only play up to 30-50 games and that's it.
Lol ahh no. It wouldn't change a thing that's liberal thinking enforcement. The fact is it's once a.year humans can handle 3 days of playing a game. Health reasons lol zzzzzzzip cowboy the fk up
Could work
What if you only got 100 duels instead of the 72hr limit. Whatever your win percentage would be after 100 duels, doesnt matter when you complete them. That would be your rank, and after the 100 duels it would be a final percentage.
I like it, Picasso.
Nah, bad idea. That will leave way too much up to randomness. You can just get lucky on your cointosses, queue up into a lot of bad matchups, happen to draw Maxx c a lot, just queue up against good players a lot more... There is a lot that you can't control for in just 100 games
I got 7th place and all I got was a bronze banner and severe sleep deprivation.
“You’re gonna actively ignore your body, you’re not gonna work out” and immediately using a clip of Asmon is gold
What's actually gold is that Jesse is talking about health and working out when he's obese himself and must eat the absolute worst food in the world to have his face skin be so messed up.
@robinwesterbeeke1498 What in the actual world? You don't know his life at all except for the small portion you see on yt videos, he could be desperately trying to get in better health as far as we know, yet you're insulting him and assuming he doesn't care about his body at all. He could have a health problem that could make him gain weight faster cause those exist and aren't uncommon, yet you're trying to make him feel bad about himself
@@whiteshadow2535 I know that he's looked the same for a long time which would indicate that he is either not trying or he is but it isn't working. While health problems can cause weight gain, they don't violate the law of thermodynamics. Even when you're sick or suffering from some conditions you can still reduce weight gains to simply kcal in vs kcal out. It might be unfair because it means that if he is suffering from something he will have to put in 10 times the effort a normal person does to make sure his energy intake < energy expenditure but it is still very possible to do so. So no, he doesn't get my sympathy.
@@robinwesterbeeke1498looks like he has lost weight to me actually
@@MrKickassFTW I’m not so sure. What I am sure of is that he has improved his presenting skills and talking into the camera. That probably distracts from how he looks.
TCG/OCG players growing aware of the madness of Konami's rules and systems in these qualifiers some 7 years after Duel Links players have been sounding the bell and being shunned as "not real ygo"
Duel links players: *WE WARNED YOOOOU!*
I think having a separate ladder that‘s open to climb for 3 months instead of 1 month like the usual ranked ladder could do it. Players high on this ladder could get to go into bo3 qualifiers in the last week or something like that.
The problem with capping time is people would just hop on other accounts and with friends, play stall and run down peoples clocks.
Pretty sure ppl run down their own clock, ppl running stun is unrelated. If you get a timeout loss it's completely your own fault.
@@Citizen_Nappa23 Im not referring to the in game clock. That is a different issue. Im referring to the suggestion of capping duelist cup playtime.
I mean theres nothing actually stopping you from doing this by just playing with 2 devices at the same time. You would also be trading off sleep to do this which just isnt really worth it
@@fortant691Why not cap it at number of games then?
the time is capped already at 72 hrs and this is a non issue
I made it to stage 2 of the qualifier, that’s when I realized I had to do it all over again but with points now. I wanted to keep going but genuine just didn’t have the fire in me to keep playing. Especially after seeing the leader board and how so many people already had thousands of points
So excited to see what deck everyone is going to be playing, rescue ace snek, Fire King snek, Pure snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, snek, and mikanko.
Hey at least ranked is less shitty atm
@@Kessogsasaina ?
@@Kessogsasaina Maybe at Masters. I'm stuck at plat and it's about the same.
@@VectornautIsLive oh no im in gold my dude i run a obelisk deck
Putting a time gives a massive advantage more aggressive decks who are able to play more games. It should be a week long event that caps the ammount of games you can play either per day or total for the event
2:44 Bruh.. guy in a work meeting while playing WCQ brought me to tears. Whoever edited this deserves a reward!
I like hearing your thoughts on the matter, very thorough.
While capping is absolutely better than what we have now and should happen, suggesting capping to 100 games or less is a rather shortsighted solution, as in addition to problems like people being able to go on multiple accounts to have multiple chances, people suggesting this don't seem to realise is that this flat out just wouldn't work as that is way too few games. Thousands of people will be able to play that many games which means so many people will end on the exact same record that the ranks would end up way too congested with there being only 100 possible results (many of which won't be reached because ofc no one is going to go 100-0 or 0-100 so it's even less than that). So what this means is that there will surely be way more people that get the top win % per region than the 1 or 2 available slots so with what they have now this doesn't work.
So to do something like this you would need one of 4 changes.
The number needs to be a lot higher than 100 (although idk what number would be viable) but then you run back into the health issue.
They could add a tiebreaker system similar to irl tournaments based on opponent's strength (and opponent's opponent's strength if extra is needed). But idk if I was someone who did well I'd be very mad if I missed out on qualifying just because of the matchmaking system giving me weaker opponents, although saying that pokemon has online events with a very limited game cap so I assume they have tiebreakers to decide position (idk I have never played in one) and I haven't seen people complaining about those tournaments so maybe it would be fine.
If they just keep it at 100 without anything special, they'd either they have to increase the amount of players that go to worlds similar to pokemon's worlds.
Or run a second tournament to cut down however many people to the 1 or 2 region slots.
Which while would both be great solutions imo, I'm pretty unoptimistic that they'd do this as they haven't changed this format yet when its been complained about a lot from both MD and Duel Links and these 2 solutions would take a lot more effort on konami's part than what I believe they're willing to put in.
Anyway all of this is to say that limiting the number of games instead of the time is probably an unviable solution without work from konami.
If they were to keep this format (I know they're very stubborn when it comes to changing their formats), they should at least limit the ammount of games you can play in stage 2 to, say, 100. That way you can still grind, but don't have to grind the entire weekend and are not punished by not being able or willing to pause your entire life for 3 days straight in order to have any chance of qualifying.
I played a good 20 hours the first day, I was playing scareclaw.I got to 16,000 dp. I was pretty happy at the rate I was going. I didn't want to win, I just wanted to push myself to my limit and see how far I could go. But by the second day I was doing a lot worse, and went down to 13,000. So after about 12 hours I decided I just need a break so I could be ready to push it the next day. On the 3rd day I played until the minute it ended and just went on a horrible losing streak right at the end and ended with 8,000dp and feel terrible. I would've been content with 16,000, ideally I was trying to hit 20,000-30,000, but 8,000 just felt awful.
I really appreciate that you approached this subject pretty objectively. You made sure to give time to the benefits as well as the downsides of the system, which I don’t usually see. I’ve been thinking for awhile that the system is actually really good for selecting the best players consistently (why players like me won’t reliably make it to the very top) and while it has its issues I don’t see a good way to select for the best players that looks very different from the system we currently have. I like the idea of just putting a hard cap on total hours per day on the qualifiers. In some sense that might actually improve the selection process because it would filter out the people who are able to artificially inflate their numbers just because they have so much more ability to spend time on it. I think it’s worth considering extending out the selection process as well, honestly to as long as a week depending how hard you cap the time. But compare it to any other game or sport and the qualifier system we have looks a little bit nuts (hearthstone’s is similar though).
I’m certainly not a good enough player to make this call myself but I think it would be cool if there was a more transparent discussion about this between the organization and the players
I agree that limiting the amonunt of games could do, but using a time limit doesnt really solve It since that IS how it's already handled (72 continuos hours). I think the real aproach is to limit how many games would count (i.e 75 games/day) since It would encourage people to play better games instead of faster ones
Allow 24 hours. Period. Put things on a timer that can be used over the course of 'X' days. This allows people to do it as hard or as leisurely as they want in their own time. It's so easy and mind blowing Konami does not do this.
I was talking about this with my friends last week. Personally i think it’s better to give everyone certain amounts of matches like everyone has 100 matches. Or just do it point system and the players with most points at the end of the year wins or the best 32 players compete for title or like every months or 2 that Konami helds big tournaments and the best among them compete at the end of the year
A way to get around or fix this 72 hour issue is to increase the time allowed and then set a number of duels total to complete like 500 duels over the course of a week so you can get a more accurate take on who’s the best over the course of 500 duels
2:45 you decided to play master duel while on a zoom call, just to seals pass
I think how cod mobile handles qualifiers works well, you have a longer time (I think about a week), you play a certain number of games, you gain points depending on your rank, so if you want to gain more points you can rank up first before playing your qualifier matches. They have multiple stages, basically first stage is singles, where you just need a minimum number of points out of 10 games to proceed to stage two which is teams where you have 30 games and gain points, and top 128 per region move on to stage three, and so on.
Yeah, the play as much as you can aspect is what needs to change.
Perhaps having a limited number of games as an alternative.
But in the end, majority players that can qualify to the top are the player who literally live for YGO. For normal people, this still an unfair format.
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I think Master Duel can just try to be a normal competitive online game. Move the point system to the higher rank, Master 1 for now. Then, top 100-200 players can duel outside the game, or make it better, Konami create an online competition, and only top 100-200 can enter to get the world ticket. In chess, you know something called as ELO System. Usually you can join a tournament based how many ELO you have.
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Yes, skill is needed. I know you mention it a little. But the "time" is also very important in current system. If you don't have time for it, just forget it.
This assumes that everyone plays paper along with master duel. I bet there are a bunch of people that only play MD because it's possible to play F2P vs having to drop thousands on a T1 deck in paper. If the competition is in the client it should stay in the client and never overlap with paper.
@@RandomGuyCDN I never said anything about paper YGO. I mean, they can make Point or ELO system in Master 1. And the top players with highest points can join tournament like Challenger Cup (You should know if you follow EU and US YGO streamer, like Farfa, he host Challenger Cup a lot) to get the ticket for World Cup.
They should do what Pokémon does for vgc online challenges your allowed like 10 games a day and if you miss a day you can make up the games then you dont have to play as many games as possible
I made it to stage 2 as usual but didnt even know stage 2 had started. Maybe its just me but it didnt seem clear on the dates on the main page to the event. I never get to grind since i work a lot and have a family but always make it a goal to get top 5k which is typically 20k plus pts which isnt bad if i go on a decent streak
If the format to qualify in this championship were to be more friendly to the best players in the world, we would be having the same players participating in it too often. Then, other players will feel discouraged due to the fact that they're not good enough to beat those players. Despite this is the ideal thing to happen from the competitiveness and quality of players perspective, it would be detrimental for the business of Konami.
So, I think its more "fair" to have a grind system to this qualifications. The talent is needed but the determination is the key.
Anyways, in the end, your health should be more important than a stupid digital cardboard championship.
What if theres more than 2 stages? What if they do 50-75 duel limit stages. And the people with the top records if tied move onto the next. And sure it would thin out enough to not have that go on forever and use an algorithm to pair everybody up against one another
Probably reducing the time to 2 days / 1 weekend can help with the time issue. Maybe the elo point formula can be slightly tweaked to reward a bit less people who play more. Mathematically, you can create a point system where the number of games you play doesn't matter or a system where it's all that matters or any variants in-between. There is nothing math can't solve.
I think having a cap for amount of games would fix a lot of these issues. A big enough number to keep the sample size high, and not incentivize people to have a bunch of accounts, but not so big that people will have to give up sleep over it, or do account sharing. Something reasonable for a person playing for 3 days, 10h a day
Guys, i have an actual question about effects not activating. So i was dueling this guy, and hes destroyed my Starving Venom fusion Dragon, he effect is to destroy all special summoned monsters when he is destroyed. So he got destroyed, and i chose to activate the effec, but then gave the opponent a chance to react, but the opponent chose to do nothing, and after it went back to me, the effect never activated. Can someone tell me why please?
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Add it to the list that's always growing and never shrinking.
Real talk: The true winners are the people who saw this start and immediately went, "Yeah, no.".
i like the idea of only being able to play for 6-10 hours in a day. maybe for like 2-3 days max
Sorry boss I cant go to work today... I have to play yugioh...
In the early Duel Links Days it was an entire week for Stage 2 and I think Dkayed was it who suggested a change at the time
I remember that, one of the events even ran while a YCS was going on.
Of the 20 duels I played in the 2nd stage, 16 of them I lost the coin toss. I have never had that kind of bad luck on the toss when I played ranked. By the time I won a toss, the opponent surrendered before my turn even started. Definitely need a match format, and wonder if anyone had this same problem?
as a 26 year old my body cant do 3 days straight maybe 2 at most but this is insane if i was younger yea my mind and body could sit there for 3 days and grind non stop easy asf but now hell no
At 26 your body can't handle it? Time to hit the gym
I think this is a symptom of greater forces in your life. I'd re-consider your activity, diet and sleep schedule.
@@tolesla3921I'm 27, I think my body could handle it but I'd get extremely depressed while I'm playing. I need some sunlight and 1 - 2 hours of physical activity, even if it's just light exercise, to stay sane.
Also at 27 and single even I find it hard to make the time to do nothing but game for 3 days. I'm sure people who manage their time differently can and will do that.
But if your body's the problem at this age, you propably have other problems than qualifying for worlds.
@@tolesla39213 days straight isn’t good for you physically or mentally regardless of your overall health. Anything longer than 48 hours and you’re just begging for hallucinations and/or a psychotic episode
@@DonnieY23 If you plan to be awake for 72 hours you should be in jail, for your own good. But sleeping for a couple of hours and then playing non-stop is definitely doable
I actually don’t think it’s bad that the points are only updated every hour because, in my opinion, as a competitive, good player, you shouldn’t stop participating in the tournament once you realize you’re already ahead. It shouldn’t matter how good your opponents or competitors are. As a good or competitive player, your goal should always be to get the most out of yourself and always be 100% better than everyone else. You can only be sure of this if you keep grinding all the time, even without knowing how many points you have. On the other hand, if you’ve played through the first two days and have a lead of tens of thousands of points and want to take a break, the hourly updates can’t give you the confidence to take a break. But I’ll put it this way, in a tournament where everyone wants a spot in the World Championship, that kind of security shouldn’t really be there either.
you could change it so that its 2w long and allow people to compete for a certain total amount of games like 100 or so that way people wanting to compete can throw their games in for the day and stop once theyre happy with it.
Honestly, I think there is a simple way to solve the bad aspects of such a qualifier on Konami's side. Just make them start considering winrates in the DP algorithm after a certain DP limit. Not everyone plays to get the invites, and there is enough data to know which limit is a good cutoff.
I dont get why they dont have rolling mini-tourneys over a week or something, and then on the seventh day have a tournament for the victors where the top 2 or something make it to worlds. or something like that.
Online isnt a venue cost, or whatever.
I think if anything locking the number of games per day in the cup would be ideal. Even if its a crazy number like 100. This would one force quality over quantity of games played but also force people to log off at some point to rest. Also it would discourage people from having other people on their accounts as you wouldn't need to be up for 72 hours.
Yeah I usually just play for gems. This time I actually tried. I got to Lv15 quick. Then I had 2 ish days of "connection issues" costing me games, when there was nothing wrong on my end. Then I was able to get back in, and ended on Lv18. Ran pure chimera, and ran into just snake-eyes, salamangreat, horus, tear, and of course, kashtira. It was frustrating. Seemed like 1 loss set me back so much.
There should be a poitns threshold that forces the first say 20k to reach it to qualify. Then the next phase should be held at a different time as a special event for those 20k. That should pick the duelist with the best win rate after a set number of games. You get 100 duels. Everyone shoule be ranked based off win percentage. Take the top 8 and let them play in a tournment bracket 2 out of 3. Winner qualifies
I got stuck at lv19 with resonators 😢, although still pretty surprised I even got that far with a not optimal version
I would like to know how random master duel really is. With all algorithms and data collection,the game can decide to give a favourable hand to an opponent that is less likely to win ! Same with SBMM in COD if you know what i mean ! Its a AI controlled data that is very easy to manipulate and set up favourable result . And not just by opening hands but also while top decking the game knows which card is good or bad to draw depending on the current game state. It kinda kills off the pure randomness that you get while playing physical card game.
I have no experience with tournaments so maybe the participants wont like this but wouldn't it be more fair and balanced for everyone including those who work to just have a set amount of duels like 100 for example to complete within a week and those with the highest win rates will then compete until you have those for the tournament bracket? This current process seems to punish those who do not have the ability to dedicate 3 days to do nothing but play
With an online qualifier like this there is no time constraints like at a venue. Why not just stretch it out over a week capping number of games per day? That way you still have the high number of games ( reduce variance) and not be glued to a chair for 72 hours.
Thank you for this video, it’s really important to talk about this kind of stuff!
Personally, i’m a really big fan of how Pokemon handle the World Championship, allowing more people to qualify makes them more accessible without taking away the competitiveness of the event (the best players will always be there) making it a true final celebration of the season.
Also, with more slots available to qualify, the qualifications would be less exhausting for the players themselves, perhaps leaving the more “aggressive” part only to have the paid trip for by Konami, I really think it would benefit everyone🙏🏻
Thanks Pokemon for proving me wrong right away
Funny enough all the high level pokemon players are complaining about how "easy" it is for anyone to make it to worlds. But i agree anyone should be able to go for it and make it and maybe make a huge run at worlds as a dark horse
Hey man, I noticed you slowed down your speech just a tad and spoke much more clearly. I don't know if this was intentional or not but I really appreciated it. I'm big fan of your content, my only criticism has been that it can sometimes be hard to focus on and understand what you're saying. Good stuff, keep it up man!
100 game max. Same/similar point system. If large pool of 100k players happens than a small tournament is done amongst them in order to get 3.
The problem I have with the system is that the 1st placer choose the other 2 and the other 2 top of the region in the game gains nothing.
I would like a system where:
1- the top 3 are the team representatives, no "choosing the youtuber" shit
Or
2- All 3 top 3 can make a regional team and the main event have a regional elimination phase.
My only complaint is quality of duels in tournaments just having decks in tournaments with gimmicks to stall a duel to a crawl or lock out players from doing anything really isnt appealing diffently when expecting a good match to get gozen match dim barrier there can be only one and what ever stall gimmick to just have to surrender needs to be standards diffently if players are expecting more then a prize card or some small prize
I've almost 2000 hours on Master duel and I participate on the Worlds every year now, last time I went up only to 9k but this time I went up to 21k, I honestly think it's really good to have the opinion of a pro like you about the subject. Found myself specially soothed by seeing you ALSO had 1 hour -12k point streaks at times, just like me. I personally feel that the 72 hour problem is tiring and might be bad for people's health, yes you can play less games but then you'll have to perform better which means using better cards and having better deckbuild but even that has no guarantee on a best of 1 format with coin flip. I do think rolling 2 dice each and compare the total open up much more of a chance for the "go first" or second patterns to be more broad. While in coin, there is ONLY yes or no, it's 50/50 so it gives less variation.
die roll is also 50/50
at 6:19 is that Utopia you just summoned? I would like the decklist if it was please!
I think limiting hours is bad. Do it like clash of clans comp scene. Limit the amount of games you can play per day.
For example clash of clans raids per day for the comp league is 8 attacks per day max and 8 defences per day max.
I was actually wondering why nobody has talked about the stage 2 system for duelist cups and wcs for MD. It's absolutely terrible. No idea why they don't just cap the limit to 100 duels over 3 days.
You are so right Jesse. My Deck is going First very powerfull. I can do Something going second but it can be very hard when opponent Just got full combo. I counted my Coin Flips. The result cannot be random. I lost 13 Out of 15 Flips. After that i lost 9 Out of 10. 2 Coin Flip wins in a row was maybe 3 Times. It is so annoying when Skill doesent even Matter.
Hello Jesse, Kirin at 3, can you build Majespector deck with Dracoslayer, thank you!
I qualified last year and this year as well but there is no way in hell I'm playing for 3 days straight. I don't even bother playing on stage two because of it.
Why don't they make it like you have a set amount of duels to prove yourself
For example : you have to duel 100 duels in 3 days and that's it. Based on your result you can either qualify or not
and the top dogs proceed
Yeah I agree there definitely should be a limit on how much time you can spend playing because it’s not healthy nor should anyone be sitting down playing a game for 20+hrs and we know people are doing just that and probably utilizing other people play on there account as well just to get the most points.
Maybe I am wrong but I really would like for it to be a 4 days system with a cap of 10 hours a day for the first 3 days and on the last day it should only available for an specific amount of time for everyone(lets say the last 8 hours)
And make them lose money for free? None of you get the point and the reason why they do it like this like any other videogame does.
Imagine if the limit is 10h/day, and it is the sleep time in your country.
@@renaldyhaen Yu gi oh players sleep?
Stuff like this is why I, as a rule, never play in official tournaments. A company that both prints cards AND hosts events should be viewed as an illegal monopoly (anti-trust violation). These should be different organizations. But even without an anti-trust suit, the solution is just to create a non-Konami tournament that is more prestigious.
i understand how having so many games reduces the variance of loses to bad hands/coin flips and whatever, and even in paper formats you see how the better players will always come out on top.
what i dont like is how a 72 hr grind is how konami chose to do it. like even if you say like 90% of the player base isnt realistically gonna be grinding for the top spot, those that do a kinda forced to do something pretty unhealthy. to me the whole system for duel links and master duel just was chosen just cause its the easiest and least effort thing that konami can do.
Each duelist in the second stage gets a certain amount of duels (lets say 100) over the span of a few days ( Lets say 72 hours). Players with the highest score after 72 hours and/or having played 100 duels move on.
The last reward in stage 1 is just a title. It's useless. In stage 2, to get decent rewards, you'd have to perform pretty well, for a long a$$ time. I usually don't even finish stage 1, and stop 1 reward short.
In short: I'm not even interested in qualifying to stage 2, as I know that I wouldn't be able to keep dueling for 3 days straight to get a decent result.
Maybe they could reduce the time to 24 hours. To me, it seems entirely reasonable to no-life it for one day.
12 or 6 hours I'd agree more with for me
I just wish MD learned the lesson MTG Arena learned and add a Best of 3 mode. My climb to Diamond would be less of a pain in the ass each season.
So, I'm putting this here before watching the video, but for me as a Duelist, qualifying for the Regional Championships was smooth sailing, but by the time I woke up in the morning the lead those grinders had on me already seemed insurmountable, and I'm not spending 2-3 days with no sleep, living off of peanuts, grinding games in Master Duel just to prove myself. With the competition structured the way it was there was basically no incentive to play the Regional Qualifier part of the event at all, and that's too bad. I'd appreciate if they capped players to a certain number of matches, or otherwise organized the qualifiers to take place over a shorter period of time, I'd gladly play 8 hours of Yu-Gi-Oh! but waking up at 6am my time to stay up for 3 days is simply asking too much of me.
Pokemon Go has a maximum number of battles you can do a day. They also have an ELO system where you gain rank with wins and drop rank with losses. Yeah it's a completely different game, but I think that concept would work perfectly well in Master Duel during these specific events.
They should do something closer to what the Pokémon games have done, where you have a limited number of matches you can play in the online tournament per day.
The people playing 72 hours straight 100% have someone else on their account. There's no way you can do top level play for that long without making mistakes.
I like the 6 hours of playtime blocks, or maybe 30-40 games per day cap so that people don't have to literally play for 3 days straight, it's just ridiculous that's a system someone came up with. Imagine if in person regionals were ran this way lol
When I play I usually get 75 to 100 games in win bout 80 percent games and finish with 20000 plus pts
this discussion videos are great, hope we get more of them once in a while
Its crazy this is the same goofy goober that won 5 YCS. Didnt know he had motion like that
Have it take place over a week and lock the players to 40 hours of total game time before being locked out.
I dont think top playes winning can be exclusively tied to a lack of variance. it's also because they have the time and resources to compete for 72 hours straight
They should really cap the amount of duels you can do to contribute to your point cost and should instead focus on the quality of duels and award points based that.
Why cant we just have tournament brackets instead of the random battle city type of deal. The more brackets you win, the better. I honestly think that's better than the dum point system.
Still confused as to why there are no bracket tournaments…
As a returning player who got back into Yugioh through master duel it shouldn’t be used as a competitive outlet UNLESS they do make a best of three mode for the competitive parts of the game
1. I think this is people’s biggest grievance with the style of tournament. I don’t think it’s SHOCK FACTOR either, master duels been around for awhile andddd duel links has the EXACT same system. Konami has to address this, not only because of reasons you gave in the video, but also it deters/hinders many great duelists away from playing.
2. Cheating is gonna happen 🤷🏻♂️ and “at home playing master duel” it’ll be even harder to monitor but people cheat irl so cheating isn’t that big of a concern to me
3. The ranking system constantly updating seems relatively impossible, at best it could be every 15 minutes, but even then I don’t think it would work
4. The best of one is the way master duel is don’t play master duel if you don’t like best of one
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It's the good old Duel Links problem. I will not stay awake for three days straight to qualify for an event. I will not destroy myself. Jesse can feel free to do that if he thinks it's worth it though.
did i miss something? is jesse pro this type of entering worlds even though he has never toped one of these himself? this year ryan toped the events and last year it was rayman who invited them.
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Always hated this type of event, they do the same thing in Duel Links too, iirc. You either need to have nothing going on or take time off work/obligations & play back to back just to keep up your score & not everyone can justify doing that even if its something they'd like to do.
I think an elo based system plus a maximum amount of games per stage, is the best way to handle it
They should just extend the 72 hours to a full week and max out the hours played in a day to 2-3 hrs. That should do the trick.
The only thing not adressed here is the amount of cheaters.
(I stumbled upon at least two every DC or WCQ 2nd stages. My most recent one was with this Synchro spam deck that run the adventure engine and then uses Thrust to Card Destruction after they play around enough in the Maxx C challenge, and their monster effects cannot be negated by imperms and veilers.)
There should be a cap of how many games or a certain amount of hours you can play within a 24 hour window.
As a Duel Links player since 2017 welcome to the pain and suffering lol. Although I've never taken stage 2 seriously because it takes literally hundreds of games to place in the top
I don’t think there is a way to fix that problem any other option is worse for someone and better for some other
The qualifiers got me to delete the game because pf how toxic the games were at high rank, so there’s that…
Just out of curiosity what do you mean by toxic? Stun Decks? Stalling? Because just based on the streams I watch, it seemed less of those as they get higher in rank, infact it was almost non existence in the upper echelon.
I think over a week you should be able to play 20 games a day and the person with the most points in the same point scoring fashion would suffice.