Everyone involved treated his deceased wife horribly, her friend who had an ongoing affair with him before and way after her passing, was never her friend! The nerve of her to be smiling in their family videos 🤬😡
@@illbeyourstumbleine No, she never knew the wife. She was hired after the wife had already died and came in to be a nanny. Unfortunately, she fell in love with Mark in the process.
When mark winger was arrested and jailed…Rebecca started a new life from nothing raising her 4 children alone…and she was able to raise them ( she survived all the difficulties in life ) after 2 decades her children now young adult seems happy and looks wonderful…they are all SIMIC not WINGER anymore…as their SURNAMES…
You really have a way to turn it around and blame a woman, anything to not hold a man fully accountable. First blame the friend, then blame Rebecca for marrying him when she never even met Donnah? “How could she marry someone so soon after he lost his wife?” I’m sorry what???
@@kepo364 Rebecca didn’t even meet Mark until months after Donnah’s murder, and that was because Donnah’s own mother suggested it to him. Get out of here with your conspiracy bullshit.
I just heard this story on MrBallen's podcast. Oh my goodness, I feel terrible for this woman and her kids. To trust and share a life with a cold-blooded killer is mind blowing. Thank goodness he was caught.
Yikes! Wow! Once again, she thought she found the “perfect” person. Based on my experience with this story and others, when you think you have found the “perfect” person and especially a partner, I think you had been run the other way, duck down, and brace for COVER!!! There IS NO perfect person! Safe yourself the heartbreak.❤
Heartbreaking story💔 I couldn't stop crying for the victims, for the pain of the family, the kids😥 I'm glad justice was made. It is very scary to see how a loving father could also be a murderer, or vice versa. Violence against women is a big issue and it is heartbreaking the amount of women that suffer abuse, have to go to a shelter, or get killed😥. Specially, during these difficult times, the cases of domestic violence have increased significantly and women are at higher risk, so more support and education in matters of domestic abuse and violence is needed as well as more mental health support for victims and their families. I'm glad the family is supporting women victim of abuse in her memory💜
The Babysitter is fake and not as nice as she portrays 🤣only after her strange marriage fell apart, she was broke and homeless with 3 kids to raise alone & He's in jail she *all the sudden* wants his adopted daughter she basically took hostage of, to meet her extended family 🙄 strange how she only wanted to claim & raise her to get in good with an overgrown married man
Bailey was 7 when Mark was sent to prison. The baby sitter went to live with her brother and found a job. They met the Donnah’s family years after that. She filed for a divorce ,changed her and her children last name and moved on. She has remained single . www.southeastoutlook.org/news/features/article_c9f5510a-b579-11e1-9314-0019bb30f31a.html
I don't know what to think of her either. I understand she came in to be a nanny after Donnah's death. Yet, I don't understand how she could get involved so quickly with a man who just lost his wife (especially in that horrific way). I don't understand why she couldn't be just the nanny and do her job. How was she able to get involved with him so quickly? That would have been the last thing on my mind...even if he was trying to date me...I wouldn't be rushing to date and then have sex with a man who just lost his wife tragically. I would be thinking he needs to grieve...the last thing he needs to do is get seriously involved with anyone. That should've been a red flag to her. It wasn't like the wife had been sick with cancer or something and then died. I have heard of husbands having a hard time raising young children on their own when their wives die...but that's usually when the husband's wife has been sick for a while and there has been some preparation that she will only have so much time. People can understand that you want to move on eventually. But...this dude hurried up and starting sleeping with the nanny.
This sheds more light on her story, I can understand your heart going out to a "hero" great father, who is lonely and sad and wants another great marriage. He said he couldn't have kids and...whupsie, knocked her up, then they got married. ruclips.net/video/zNzkejDm85o/видео.html
@@lisacox3750 he wrote her letters convincing her to marry him and that he needed her. She questioned him and he said he needed her to fill the void of his loss. She was young and impressionable and had a strong bond with the baby. She was an easy target for him. Don't blame this girl she didn't lose anyone, blame him. She was probably next on his hit list. He lied to her their entire relationship and she saw him as a heroic man in need of a mother for his child.
Are you not comprehending this story at all? Have you listened to the entire story? From Bailey's POV, Rebecca is only mother she's known. Her biological mother gave her up when she was born, and Donnah adopted her. Then three months later Donnah gets murdered, Mark hires Rebecca later as a live-in nanny. Rebecca did not take her hostage, she took the job to help take care of a child, and while she did marry Mark, she did the best she could despite the circumstances. Imagine raising four kids, one of whose father killed her prior adoptive mother. Raising kids is hard, but I have to give her an A+ to her for dedicating her life to raising her kids.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a weird ass story? Like honestly okay what was the motive for killing her? The affair? He didn’t want the baby? Like it doesn’t make sense, he didn’t kill her for the affair because Deann was still married to her husband. So why kill her? Like it really doesn’t make sense honestly. Deann it’s something with her! So you slept with him for 6 months after Donna was killed and never said anything about the comment he made about Donna being gone. Can someone please explain because it really doesn’t make any sense, like he knew he s was going to be stuck with the baby after she was dead like it didn’t make any sense
There could have been a few- could be Deann wanted him to/promised to leave her husband/couldn't cope with the guilt (🙄 doubt it but who knows what was said), could be that Donna found out about it & was going to leave him (doubtful tho, she probably would have told her sisters, unless embarrassed/not sure, but threatening to take away their daughter, could be a huge motive). There could have been a life insurance not mentioned, the lawsuit filed against the ride company, or their faith frowning upon divorce, etc. Interesting she only came forward after seeing him moved on & happy (he's a disgusting murdering dirtbag, I'm just saying she seems like a lying, jealous beotch as well).
It truly is weird. This isn't the first time I read about this story but for some reason after watching few more clips I got the feeling that this man was obsessed with impregnating women in a way? Rebecca described his joy when she was pregnant with his first biological child as a "victory" for him! Maybe he thought less of Donnah because she couldn't get pregnant? Also, he seems to be a narcissistic who is secretary obsessed with murder, read about the Solicitation of Murder part in his Wiki, he was plotting murders from prison! As for Donnah's friend, she says that she suffered from guilt and depression and her therapist advised her to talk to the police. Also, it's possible that she believed the story he told initially and then later connected the dots. Keep in mind, this man wanted to look like a hero, being stuck with a baby was the least of his concerns, help was going to be thrown his way nonetheless.
@@MoniB888 I dont know if you know that the story got wierder. He hired a hitman from prison and plottet to kill that friend he had an affair with (who's testimony re-opened the case) and his ex-father in law (Donnas stepdad). He recieved additional 35 years for this. Another weird thing he converted from judism to christianity because he felt judism was "less forgiving". And he did want the child, he raised her with his new family (with the nanny)...well until he went to prison at least. What went on inside his head and his motives for all this, I have no idea.
Cash Brown (Donnah’s biological father) was the only family member who had no sympathy for Mark (unlike Sarah Jane Drescher [Cash’s ex-wife] and her current husband Ira) because he didn’t believe Mark acted like a mourning widower.
Am I wrong for not feeling sorry for Rebecca Simac Winger? Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the children, but she was his employee and fell into a relationship that should've remained professional. And she knew she should've never condoned Mark shutting out Donnah's family after Donnah was murdered. But she went along with it. Now it seems like she wants pitty. 🤔🤔🤔 Please don't come at me with cruel comments. I'm asking the question seeking real answers/opinions.
I could see what your trying to say. I'm kinda agreeing with you but at the same time I kinda do feel sorry for her. Sometimes you can't control who you fall in love with especially if you are a good hearted person. Sometimes good hearted people get fooled into believing something is too good to be true. She really thought guy was a wonderful man because he was good in acting like one.
@@ladymebane4333 You're very welcome. I think if you go on the ABC website they have a full documentary on this topic on 20/20 talking about this. You might get an idea of the whole story or at least some of it.
I understand what you are saying but I look at the following: At the time she got involved with him, his wife was already deceased so it's not like she had an affair with a married man. I also applaud her for accepting that he is guilty instead of being delusional like so many other people that continue to defend people when it's obvious they are wrong. And this last point speaks volumes....I applaud her for continuing to raise the girl as her own daughter, when she started out as her nanny. The child was originally given up by her biological teenage mother, then adopted by Donna, who was of course murdered....so the child lost 2 mothers and lost her adopted father because he murdered her adopted mom and is in jail. This woman is actually amazing in that she continued to love and raise the child as her own along with her other children and that says a lot about her character.
Hi celly, so what do you think about the fact that he hired a hitman from prison and plottet to kill that friend he had an affair with (who's testimony re-opened the case) and his ex-father in law (Donnas stepdad). He received additional 35 years for this. Not so important or?
Everyone involved treated his deceased wife horribly, her friend who had an ongoing affair with him before and way after her passing, was never her friend! The nerve of her to be smiling in their family videos 🤬😡
This woman knew the wife too? She sure didn't make it sound like that here did she, that's super sketchy if that's what you're saying.
@@illbeyourstumbleine No she sid not. She came in as a nanny after Bailey's mother died.
And yes, her best friend is a snake.
Wow that’s evil
@@illbeyourstumbleine No, she never knew the wife. She was hired after the wife had already died and came in to be a nanny. Unfortunately, she fell in love with Mark in the process.
@@illbeyourstumbleine The nanny and her "best friend" are two different women, just to clarify.
Wonderful woman she took in the child. Donna is watching over Bailey.
When mark winger was arrested and jailed…Rebecca started a new life from nothing raising her 4 children alone…and she was able to raise them ( she survived all the difficulties in life ) after 2 decades her children now young adult seems happy and looks wonderful…they are all SIMIC not WINGER anymore…as their SURNAMES…
It's good the kids changed there last names. No one would want to be associated with a killer.
with the help of her brother
You really have a way to turn it around and blame a woman, anything to not hold a man fully accountable. First blame the friend, then blame Rebecca for marrying him when she never even met Donnah? “How could she marry someone so soon after he lost his wife?” I’m sorry what???
lol u are delusional if u think rebecca was not to blame
@@kepo364
Rebecca didn’t even meet Mark until months after Donnah’s murder, and that was because Donnah’s own mother suggested it to him. Get out of here with your conspiracy bullshit.
@@kepo364
Mark didn’t have an affair with Rebecca, he had an affair with her best friend by the name of Deanne Schultz.
I just heard this story on MrBallen's podcast. Oh my goodness, I feel terrible for this woman and her kids. To trust and share a life with a cold-blooded killer is mind blowing. Thank goodness he was caught.
Yikes! Wow! Once again, she thought she found the “perfect” person. Based on my experience with this story and others, when you think you have found the “perfect” person and especially a partner, I think you had been run the other way, duck down, and brace for COVER!!! There IS NO perfect person! Safe yourself the heartbreak.❤
I just loved this woman 😍
Heartbreaking story💔 I couldn't stop crying for the victims, for the pain of the family, the kids😥 I'm glad justice was made. It is very scary to see how a loving father could also be a murderer, or vice versa. Violence against women is a big issue and it is heartbreaking the amount of women that suffer abuse, have to go to a shelter, or get killed😥. Specially, during these difficult times, the cases of domestic violence have increased significantly and women are at higher risk, so more support and education in matters of domestic abuse and violence is needed as well as more mental health support for victims and their families. I'm glad the family is supporting women victim of abuse in her memory💜
But even more heartbreaking is also violence against children
He was a wolf in the sheep clothing
Indeed he is, Anna
Devil in disguise narcarcisst
The Babysitter is fake and not as nice as she portrays 🤣only after her strange marriage fell apart, she was broke and homeless with 3 kids to raise alone & He's in jail she *all the sudden* wants his adopted daughter she basically took hostage of, to meet her extended family 🙄 strange how she only wanted to claim & raise her to get in good with an overgrown married man
Bailey was 7 when Mark was sent to prison. The baby sitter went to live with her brother and found a job. They met the Donnah’s family years after that. She filed for a divorce ,changed her and her children last name and moved on. She has remained single .
www.southeastoutlook.org/news/features/article_c9f5510a-b579-11e1-9314-0019bb30f31a.html
I don't know what to think of her either. I understand she came in to be a nanny after Donnah's death. Yet, I don't understand how she could get involved so quickly with a man who just lost his wife (especially in that horrific way). I don't understand why she couldn't be just the nanny and do her job. How was she able to get involved with him so quickly? That would have been the last thing on my mind...even if he was trying to date me...I wouldn't be rushing to date and then have sex with a man who just lost his wife tragically. I would be thinking he needs to grieve...the last thing he needs to do is get seriously involved with anyone. That should've been a red flag to her. It wasn't like the wife had been sick with cancer or something and then died. I have heard of husbands having a hard time raising young children on their own when their wives die...but that's usually when the husband's wife has been sick for a while and there has been some preparation that she will only have so much time. People can understand that you want to move on eventually. But...this dude hurried up and starting sleeping with the nanny.
This sheds more light on her story, I can understand your heart going out to a "hero" great father, who is lonely and sad and wants another great marriage. He said he couldn't have kids and...whupsie, knocked her up, then they got married.
ruclips.net/video/zNzkejDm85o/видео.html
@@lisacox3750 he wrote her letters convincing her to marry him and that he needed her. She questioned him and he said he needed her to fill the void of his loss. She was young and impressionable and had a strong bond with the baby. She was an easy target for him. Don't blame this girl she didn't lose anyone, blame him. She was probably next on his hit list. He lied to her their entire relationship and she saw him as a heroic man in need of a mother for his child.
Are you not comprehending this story at all? Have you listened to the entire story? From Bailey's POV, Rebecca is only mother she's known. Her biological mother gave her up when she was born, and Donnah adopted her. Then three months later Donnah gets murdered, Mark hires Rebecca later as a live-in nanny. Rebecca did not take her hostage, she took the job to help take care of a child, and while she did marry Mark, she did the best she could despite the circumstances. Imagine raising four kids, one of whose father killed her prior adoptive mother. Raising kids is hard, but I have to give her an A+ to her for dedicating her life to raising her kids.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a weird ass story? Like honestly okay what was the motive for killing her? The affair? He didn’t want the baby? Like it doesn’t make sense, he didn’t kill her for the affair because Deann was still married to her husband. So why kill her? Like it really doesn’t make sense honestly. Deann it’s something with her! So you slept with him for 6 months after Donna was killed and never said anything about the comment he made about Donna being gone. Can someone please explain because it really doesn’t make any sense, like he knew he s was going to be stuck with the baby after she was dead like it didn’t make any sense
There could have been a few- could be Deann wanted him to/promised to leave her husband/couldn't cope with the guilt (🙄 doubt it but who knows what was said), could be that Donna found out about it & was going to leave him (doubtful tho, she probably would have told her sisters, unless embarrassed/not sure, but threatening to take away their daughter, could be a huge motive).
There could have been a life insurance not mentioned, the lawsuit filed against the ride company, or their faith frowning upon divorce, etc.
Interesting she only came forward after seeing him moved on & happy (he's a disgusting murdering dirtbag, I'm just saying she seems like a lying, jealous beotch as well).
But it's absolutely a weird ass story.
It truly is weird. This isn't the first time I read about this story but for some reason after watching few more clips I got the feeling that this man was obsessed with impregnating women in a way? Rebecca described his joy when she was pregnant with his first biological child as a "victory" for him! Maybe he thought less of Donnah because she couldn't get pregnant?
Also, he seems to be a narcissistic who is secretary obsessed with murder, read about the Solicitation of Murder part in his Wiki, he was plotting murders from prison!
As for Donnah's friend, she says that she suffered from guilt and depression and her therapist advised her to talk to the police. Also, it's possible that she believed the story he told initially and then later connected the dots.
Keep in mind, this man wanted to look like a hero, being stuck with a baby was the least of his concerns, help was going to be thrown his way nonetheless.
@@MoniB888 Weird stories like this does happen around the country. Don't be too shocked. We do have crazy ass people here.
@@MoniB888 I dont know if you know that the story got wierder. He hired a hitman from prison and plottet to kill that friend he had an affair with (who's testimony re-opened the case) and his ex-father in law (Donnas stepdad). He recieved additional 35 years for this. Another weird thing he converted from judism to christianity because he felt judism was "less forgiving". And he did want the child, he raised her with his new family (with the nanny)...well until he went to prison at least. What went on inside his head and his motives for all this, I have no idea.
Donnas seemed like such a wonderful woman
He been looking creeepy as hell..!!! Weird
Right lol the news articles keep calling him “handsome and charming” LIKE EW HE IS SO UGLY AND CREEPY
I feel bad for nanny she didn't know anything about her husband
WONDERFUL woman.
Yeah right when she married Mark she thought she won the lottery !
What the fuck you rattling off about now?
Cash Brown (Donnah’s biological father) was the only family member who had no sympathy for Mark (unlike Sarah Jane Drescher [Cash’s ex-wife] and her current husband Ira) because he didn’t believe Mark acted like a mourning widower.
Didn’t you just know this psychopath had killed her
Am I wrong for not feeling sorry for Rebecca Simac Winger? Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the children, but she was his employee and fell into a relationship that should've remained professional. And she knew she should've never condoned Mark shutting out Donnah's family after Donnah was murdered. But she went along with it. Now it seems like she wants pitty. 🤔🤔🤔 Please don't come at me with cruel comments. I'm asking the question seeking real answers/opinions.
I could see what your trying to say. I'm kinda agreeing with you but at the same time I kinda do feel sorry for her. Sometimes you can't control who you fall in love with especially if you are a good hearted person. Sometimes good hearted people get fooled into believing something is too good to be true. She really thought guy was a wonderful man because he was good in acting like one.
@@arabicmusiclady1428 thanks so much for your respectful response. I can see it from your point of view as well.
@@ladymebane4333 You're very welcome. I think if you go on the ABC website they have a full documentary on this topic on 20/20 talking about this. You might get an idea of the whole story or at least some of it.
I understand what you are saying but I look at the following: At the time she got involved with him, his wife was already deceased so it's not like she had an affair with a married man. I also applaud her for accepting that he is guilty instead of being delusional like so many other people that continue to defend people when it's obvious they are wrong. And this last point speaks volumes....I applaud her for continuing to raise the girl as her own daughter, when she started out as her nanny. The child was originally given up by her biological teenage mother, then adopted by Donna, who was of course murdered....so the child lost 2 mothers and lost her adopted father because he murdered her adopted mom and is in jail. This woman is actually amazing in that she continued to love and raise the child as her own along with her other children and that says a lot about her character.
She was very young and the situation involves a psychopath murderer you can imagine the control he has over her
Beautiful woman inside
This woman then remarried again?
U r lovely woman strong sweet and good heart go girl😇🌹💋❤👀⚘❤
Diabolical 💥
Looks like you guys know the vibe too. Good to know and thanks.
Part 6
I just watched it on RUclips Dateline nbc. I couldn't find part 6 either. They never give the last part.
ruclips.net/video/VcerU-6U6qY/видео.html
I was mark's celly while I was in Western Illinois correctional Center. I can tell you personally, I think he didn't actually kill his wife.
Hi celly, so what do you think about the fact that he hired a hitman from prison and plottet to kill that friend he had an affair with (who's testimony re-opened the case) and his ex-father in law (Donnas stepdad). He received additional 35 years for this. Not so important or?
Well that goes to show how easily manipulated you are then
Woman Narrator~ The name Winger is not pronounced WeenGRR. The g is soft in ing words. Learn to talk if you're going to be a reporter.