It was Aegon AND his sisters
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- It was Aegon AND his sisters.
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"You remind me of my daughter" was the harshest roast Tywin could have delivered to Arya and he didn't even realize it...
I think Tywin said that because Arya wasn't interested in dresses and looking pretty. Cersei in 7th season says how she learnt the value of gold and other lessons from Tywin
Arya may hate Cersei but I thought this moment was more endearing for a father to compare someone to a daughter that he loved.
She knows your daughter, says her name every night before bed
@Justin Hinson I personally love Cersei and always secretly rooted for her
It's funny I always thought Sansa was similar to Cersei in some ways even Cersei herself admitted it
I love the interaction between Tywin and Arya. Like Sansa learnt a lot from Littlefinger, Arya learnt a lot from Tywin as well.
I'd argue Sansa didn't learn too much but Alayne Stone sure did.
@@coachmcguirk6297 What did Arya learn from Tywin though? I'd say she mostly learned from the Hound and Jacquen. Tywin taught her to pour a drink and get a book.
@@zagreus5773 she listened to his councils and gained wisdom about how to run a kingdom effectively and shrewdly.
The tension was so high in these scenes that even a casual conversation had me sitting at the edge, biting my nails. One slip of tongue and she's beheaded
@@zagreus5773 the first thing that comes to my mind is paying attention to little details. Tywin saw through Arya properly, he immediately knew Arya was a girl, and noticed she didn't speak like an usual low born northerner (which he isn't very familiar with).
Parallel to this skill she also figured out that she has to be more careful with her disguises, so nobody can ever get a hint.
I like to believe Tywin had his suspicions but couldn't verify it before he had to leave and she escaped.
I just realized the sword Arya mentions, "Dark Sister" is Daemons sword in House of the Dragon
yeah i also realised it 😂
That's why they uploaded this clip
There Is Vhagar In the show too!
Die Hard fans knows every detail
Yesss
Tywin was one of the best written characters in the show and the best thing is he didn't stick around when the writing got bad
@You alright boi ? it's ok, you can enjoy bad things
so was arya… before season 5 came along
One could make the argument that the show lost some steam because his character got killed
@You alright boi ? everyone knows the ending is bad. But if u like bad writing and plotholes i cant stop you.
@You alright boi ? Um, when did he generalize his opinion? Which word indicated that?
"I'm sure I knew that when I was a boy". That was low key a hilarious line.
And honestly, yeah I'd believe it, given how much many Lords (particularly as a Warden of the West) would learn of such history
Can u tell me which season this was!
@@haneefs666 season 2nd
@@haneefs666
This was like, Season 2 or 3, can't recall
Fairly certain it's Season 2. Arya and Gendry have been captured by the Lannisters and this is after Tywin shows up and pretty much saves the prisoners from death by the Mountain.
Gendry is saved to be a Smith for them and Arya becomes Tywin's Cup Bearer
@@thalmoragent9344 now I remember..
I sort of skipped first 2 seasons of got, have a brief idea what happened.
I loved Tywins charecter, the sophisticated villain. And he is hardly evil, no more than most in this story and less than many. This scene especially humanized him.
Less than many? The man had an entire family massacred including a pregnant woman. Tywin was methodical and calculated, stern and swift to act… but less evil than many? No, he wasn’t. He was one of the most evil guys in the series… his end was well deserved.
@@IronWolf_345 I mean he did what he had to do to keep his people and his family safe. If Tywin was still alive there’s no way Daenerys just walks into kings landing like that dragons or not
Villian*
@@eddieberlingeri4257 you’re really rationalizing his actions. You really love that Tywin pov
Objectively he’s pretty awful. One of the worst in the series with Ramsay Bolton and his grandson Joffrey. Apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree
Love how simple and cool this conversation is
Same. One of my favorite Tywin scenes. Definitely showed a rare side of him the human, more liggthearted side.
@@fantuckstic 💯
Better than all of season 8 combined (?).
That is because deep down Tywin was a GOOD person. He never wanted to hurt anyone, only help others. In the end, it was the Starks who were the evil ones. 😞
@@costco_pizza what? You clearly do not understand A Song of Ice and Fire then. None of it is Black and White. Tywin did want to hurt people. Are you high?
I really loved their dynamic. Tywin knew all the time she was the daughter of a lord, but he chose to not know which one. He allowed himself to enjoy her company and wits.
wat he knew?
I don’t think he knew
Not that she was a stark at least
He knew she was high born because of the way she spoke, he even reminded her that if she was gonna pretend to be poor she was gonna have to tone it down, he didnt know what family though because he never met Arya Stark under her official titles
@@hakiymyoung2513 Oh thanks, It's been a long time. I must've forgotten it. Thanks.
"He was a well read stonemason", "Can't say I have ever met a literate stonemason" - Lord Tywin
"Have you met many stonemasons my 'lord" - A Girl 🥶
Savage my gal!
I don't get it?
@@limyize Tywin, as the head of a great house would be unlikely to have interacted with someone as common as a stonemason, but nonetheless makes a disparaging generalisation about them (which granted is likely to have been correct in this show, poor folk would not be likely to be literate).
Imagine Tywin still alive and meets Arya again as the faceless man she became. In another universe they would conquered westeros within a day😊
I believe this is the only time Tywin genuinely laughs at something
I just was going to comment how his laugh is so genuine. Then I read this post 👍🏾👍🏾
Which is very out of character. Book-Tywin hates laughter. It was a constant reminder of the mockery he endured from other houses, all because his own father was pathetic loser.
"What killed your father?"
"Loyalty."
Loved that line. It was so true and descriptive of ned's character in just one word...
Exactly...
And the way Maisie delivers it, her eyes and her dialogue delivery ❤
The thing is this actually never happened in the books... So Credit where it's due to the Showrunners for this Scene
Of course it never happened, Tywin would've immediately got suspicious who this girl actually is. It's a wonder Bolton has never discovered it during their relationship.
@@SuperCosty2010 She was Mostly Terrified of Bolton and really avoided any talks with him
very many things are due to the showrunners!!!
One of the best things they did outside of the books. Best addition imo.
@@SuperCosty2010 no it’s absolutely an absurd thing to think that a tomboyish dirty girl would be an actual princess. Tywin in the books also would’ve never come to that conclusion, just say that the show runners did sth right for once
This is such a heart warming moment, which is really sad considering who these people are and what they mean for each other.
The last line "From my father " Her face really expressed the feeling :(
Fantastic bit of acting there.
I love the animal symbolism of GoT, a small wolf pup being educated by a Lion who was fooled by a sheep clothing, and by a Dog who chose first to deliver the wolf to Falcons and Wolves, but later came to raise the pup as his own.
Also the dragon and kraken who were raised by wolves, while the stag raised a Lion who thought himself a stag.
The little bird of the wolf pack that grew to be a mighty falcon.
The wolf that learnt to be a raven.
In general, the wolf pack that was loyal to itself.
The two stags who locked horns in combat.
The lions that lived and died by their pride. While the runt who they rather leave to die managed to achieve greater things by leaving his pride behind.
And the three headed dragon who found her place amongst horses and slaves.
This was incredible thanks for writing this
JRR MARTIN: 😮 I DIDNT KNOW THIS ONE 😂😂😂😂😂
Pagan worship
I would love to see a series based off the era of Aegon Targaryen to see his conquests along with Balerion and the burning of Harrenhal would be amazing. I also hope they do a series during Rhaegar Targaryens time so we can see Robert's Rebellion and get more from sir Arthur Dane. There are so many great characters to bring to screen.
Same, they should cast the guy that played Peter in Narnia as Aegon the conqueror
Dude same. As much as I am loving house of the dragon I would love to see a series about Aegon and his sisters and their conquests.
I think they plan to make season 5 of House Of the Dragon about Aegons Conquest.
@@MarcS24-058 King Aegon I Targaryen was the founder and first king of the Targaryen dynasty when he conquered all of Westeros and united the realm (except Dorne and the lands beyond the Wall) with three great dragons, Balerion, Vhagar, and Meraxes. Viserys son Aegon in the series is not Aegon the Conquerer. He lived long before the events of House of the Dragon. Balerion is also dead in the series. Unless they take us back in time to see those events but why show us what took place that far ago? It would be cool for sure but I don't see why they would go that far back in time.
Robert Rebellion would be so cool! even if its just a mini series
you can tell how jealous tywin is of aegons overwhelming legacy in this scene
^ This
@@TiaguinhoMuthere is nothing jealous to be about. The guy “conquered,” kingdoms that weren’t willing to fight. They just gave up. Anyone that put up a fight, Aegon just withdrew like the coward that he is. He had two sister wives that should tell you everything you need to know about that character
@@em34ev3r that he had two sisters should us everything ?
@@em34ev3r weren't willing to fight or more like scared to fight? Argillac and Harren were willing, now where are their houses?
@@devpurohit2565 they weren’t willing to fight because he had a flying nuclear bomb. Not because he was a brilliant military tactician. lol go play w/ yourself
"You remind me of my daughter" *The daughter in his ultimate dreams* of course.
Tywin's eyes sparkled as soon as Arya started talking about History of Westeros. Because he never thought he'd find a young child who understands and adores what "True Legacy & Glory" like the Targaryens Legacy had carved into Westeros 'history.
What I love about Arya here is that she's not afraid to show she has knowledge. She could just play a dumb farmer's girl but she showed that she was educated to some degree
I interpreted it as how a child easily forgets their situation, and she was reminded of it again when Tywin asks where she learnt this and she says "my father". But for a moment she was a child, basking in the glory of showing of her knowledge to the great Tywin Lannister
@@Exsulator2 agreed
Didn't she have to pretend she's from high family? Just asking
I love that Visenya gets a lot of praise from Arya, but all the descendants of the Targaryens come from Rheanys' side of the family.
because meagor couldn't reproduce
Why does that matter? Doesn't change the fact that Visenya was a great warrior.
@@wrenna976 Maybe because Rhaegar and Jon are elite swordman ? Idk, that's what i understood from his comment
Well, they're all related anyway LOL. But I see your point!
@@joymon6235 he got sabotaged lol someone poisoned all his pregnant consorts
That short laugh from tywin at the end was probably the only time I remember him expressing this emotion
You clearly don't remember his anger "my children" "you're no son of mine"
Every scene Tywin is in is a joy to watch
I like how people often say "Aegon Targeryen this,Aegon Targeryen II battled his sister for the throne"
When reality is:
Visenya basically did all the rulling after she crowned Aegon,she also defended him when they came for him,and she is the one who lived the most among all three of them.
Aegon the II didn't even wanted to be king his mother was the one who convinced him to do it but she basically was the one behind all things happening on the dance.
You mean alicent? Visenya was the mother of Maegor
@@rick_sijben He's talking about both Aegon I and Aegon II
Visenya sat the iron throne but that was because Aegon was away making peace with the lords he just conquered. Took a while to tour the realm. Visenya was cruel and let Maegors terror take place
@@joshuaadams6565 tbh I've seen plenty of comments saying people are very biased against Maegor bc of his title,of course he did some horrifying things (all kings and queens did) but most of it has reasons,also Visenya let Maegor take the throne AFTER the son of Rhaenys and Aegon died,she also took care of him when he started to fell ill and tried to advise him but he was just not a good king (Rhaenys and Aegon son which name i forgot)
I dunno, people make Visenya out to be some mastermind above Aegon and the others but... Aegon had the right temperament as King, and he was off in Westeros to make peace and connections with his new Lords.
Visenya did well but I feel people don't give all 3 the credit they each deserve for their parts (even if Aegon and Visenya typically did more of it)
So no I don't think it's fair to say Visenya "basically did all the ruling" after she crowned Aegon, he was just as much a part of it.
Rhaenys was the soft one, Visenya the more brutal one, Aegon was a decent middle ground. Reasonable but also a man of his word to those who opposed him, promising Fire and Blood.
So I mean, I dunno... her placing Maegor on the Throne and letting him off on his reign of fear and the likes led to Maegor basically dying alone with a rough run.
Yes some fear is needed but it's clear to me that Maegor took after his mother more than father, and that says something
As Arya said, she was a great warrior, and was very important to the Targaryen Conquest, but Aegon was the one who truly led them there. Visenya is more like Robert or Stannis, in the sense of a Warrior, but in terms of proper rule, Aegon specialized in that
Tywin: “You remind me of my daughter”
**grabs neck**
Joker Tywin: “I HATED MY DAUGHTER! You wanna know how I got these scars?”
I died. That’s amazing, thank you
Wish we had a book show or whatever just dedicated to Tywin raising arya as his adopted daughter then teaching her to lead troops and lead a house to properity
An ASOIAF What If? series could be fun
That does sound like fun, but if Tywin ever adopted Arya, he’d marry her off to the highest bidder and expect her to have sons who are loyal to House Lannister
sounds cool!! although i dont recall any instance in asoiaf where anyone has adopted kids..
@@dharashah2467 Yeah, I think the closest equivalent is taking a ward
@@DeepikaGinger there actually is a fanfiction of it and in the fic tywin just ends up marrying Arya to Jaimie to remove him from the kingsgaurd and to ally the north with the lannisters
the 3 or 4 episodes where Arya & Tywin interact are some of my favorite scenes in the entire series, showing another side of Tywin.
These sequences were so important in developing Tywin as a character. Sure, we got to see his eye for tactics and how disappointed he was in his own family but a chance to see the better and lighter side of his fatherly self is such a gem.
I like her being Tywin’s page rather than Roose Bolton’s like she was in the books.
Boy am I glad that the girl who looked up to the Targaryen women dragonriders as her heroines got to have a convo with that Daenerys lady in Season 8
Well... When Daenerys arrived that girl learned that the Targaryen dragon rider was kind of a power hungry type who meant to rule her family, so there was not much to admire any longer, was there?
imagine if she'd learnt that through talking to her
I really disappointed that so many of beautiful interaction we could have seen in last season.
Oh wait...
@@Jonsephar be quiet
I loved these moments between Tywin and Aria.
I loved these interactions between these two. Epic scenes
Scenes like that made me appreciate good writing where you can't tell who is evil. Everyone is just simply being human.
I mean, you still know he is evil. But you just see he is also human.
This whole Tywin-Arya interaction was the best change they did from the books
My highlight of season 2 was the Tywin and Arya moments. Something about it had a warmth. Two opposing houses having an innocent conversation.
it just dawned on me, history repeats. Just like she told Tywin of Aegon and his sisters, it was in GOT timeline, Aegon and his sisters that brought the realm together ( Jon Snow (Aegon) Sensa and Ariya). One of Aegons sisters for sure had a Valyerian steel sword, much like Ariyas dagger.
🤯🤯🤯🤯
And upon further thought, Job Snow wasn’t really considered a brother by the Starks( I don’t care what they said, I saw what they did) so the brother and two sisters was really Bran, Sansa and Ariya
some people loves that,the dragons are kiling soldiers or John fighting etc,the best parts are these conversations
We just love… EVERYTHING, actually.
That crackling fire is ASMR 👂👂💖
Looking back the scenes with these two are probably some of my favorites.
Tywin was never seen laughing as he hated it and thought it was weak, so for Arya to get a laugh from him is so important to me.
This scene never gets old
I love this conversation
The scariest thing about Tywin to me is that people find him relatable. He's a very human character. That doesn't make him good. Most, if not all of his actions are driven by his self-justified prejudice. The fact that he's smart and can actually get things done makes his evil ideas so much worse.
I doubt anyone finds Tywin relatable. There isn't a man alive today with even half with confidence. People just like the character because he's really compelling and Charles Dance is a great actor.
The scenes with these two characters were absolutely epic! Very underrated part of the show indeed!
the earlier seasons were some of the greatest tv moments ever
God the dialogue in the early seasons was just perfect
Charles Dance as Tywin was literally perfect. PERFECT.
''From my father'' hits HARD!!
Tywin sounds like he admires Aegon 😂and the way Aegon’s legacy was still alive even for 300 years
I swear HBO is reading my mind🤣
Why ?
Seeing Vhagar get name dropped in the main show is so much cooler now. Will be a tough one to swallow when the old beast meets her end.
An example when the show did something better than the books. This is one of my favorite interactions in the series.
Tywin: “You remind me of my daughter”
Arya “😐😕 Excuse me, what did you just say? I remind you of who? Actually nevermind, stay right here, I’ll be right back. Have you seen Jaqen H'ghar around by any chance?”
And then red wedding would have never happened.
@@imadarif3055 he didn't planned the red wedding.
It would have been amazing if
1) Tywin got to know Arya’s real identity at some point before his death. There’s no payoff in the end for the whole Tywin-Arya arc, given that they were provided so much of screen time and rich conversation (much more than Tywin just passing on orders to a cupbearer).
2) If Arya could get her hands on Dark Sister somehow to fight the walkers in S8. Aegon and his 2 sisters (one of them with Dark Sister sword) fought for Westros. This arc could have been a foreshadow of Aegon (Jon) and his 2 sisters fighting for Westros (against White Walkers), with Arya using Dark Sister sword (being the dark sister of the 2).
We don't need payoff. It's just a cool little side thing to show how cunning Arya is.
@@cwdoby What else makes a show 'good' without the payoffs? All this the built-up for nothing in the end
This is just a wholesome conversation between two enemies.
This is what tends to happen when people don't KNOW that they're enemies.
This highlights how Cersei and Arya are very similar personalities, it’s just that Cersei had a more cruel father growing up and lost her mother. Arya was lucky she had a loving family.
One of my favorite interactions in the entirety of GoT and the books
Charles Dance is an impeccable actor
What’s interesting about this scene is the parallel between Jon Snow (Aegon Targaryen) and his warrior sister (Arya/Visenya) who wields a valaryan steel blade (sword/dagger)
I dont understand why the Arya sequel never came out. She deserves a whole bloody tvshow all for Maisie Williams, she is an amazing actress.
Would have been a disaster. Arya was the *only* truly bad character throughout the show
Because that would be boring
That's funny... Aegon VI has two sisters, one of them is a warrior and seems pretty dark, too! 🤔
"I don't want it"
Of course Arya likes Visenya, she was ruthless in getting what she wanted. Only one of her children ever ascended to the throne and that was Maegor The Cruel, as cold as his mother.
Lol that’s exactly why all the boys like Arya so much. “Most girls are idiots” 😅😅 I like Arya and all but she definitely had growing up to do, and she did!
Mostly Aegon then his sisters , Aegon the Conqueror and .. his sisters
Wow I never thought about the parallel between aegon and his sisters and Jon and his sisters
I did and even more after hotd. When they talk about Aegons dream of ice and fire they are talking about Jon ( real name Aegon)
@@No-one313 no they are talking about Aegon the conquerer not Jon
Arya had always fascinated about women warriors and it just doesn't make sense that she suddenly antagonizes Dany. They didn't even have one single internaction. Season 7-8 were badly written.
I think one thing could be her personality have changed after going through so much. Now, she admires brienne more then Dany.
She is fiercely loyal to Jon who was displaced by Dani. Seasons 7 and 8 were very well written. You don't get Arya at all. She doesn't want to meet or interact with anyone new.
You're forgetting that Arya in the beginning of the story and Arya in the last seasons are two completely different people
@@alphanerd7221 eishh.... I wouldn't go say that in public if i were you
@@seancoetzee5399 I say it in public often and people usually agree with me.
I like to think Tywin knew he was talking to Arya. But just liked her too much to have her killed.
He knows that she is a girl who disguised as a boy but he didn't know who she was because they haven't met each other since Tywin wasn't in Season One. Tywin got introduced in Season Two.
@@margarethmichelina5146 yeah but I’m sure he was aware of the Starks, and who their successors are. Man was always playing chess.
At the end it was Aegon the king and not his sisters
I started watching GoT again a few weeks ago - just saw this episode! Arya is one of my favorite characters!
It will forever be frustrating that it's called "Aegon's Conquest", like he didn't have two sisters who did just as much work. Had the Targaryens had absolute primogeniture it would've been "Visenya's Conquest", as she was the eldest. History always puts the women in the shadows.
They were important sure but it was Aegon that lead it. He told them where to go and who to burn. He was the one that gave the orders, showed mercy when people knelt and showed ruthlessness when people didn't. If it was up to Visenya, houses like the Starks would be dead. Rhaenys got her and her dragon killed in Dorne so she was pretty useless on the battlefield.
@@hunterhorsehelmsley7315 Aegon led and gave orders because he was given that position sinply for being born a man over his older sister. History is always written to hide the womens' prowess. Without Rhaenys or Visenya it wouldn’t have worked
@@Julleo12 but if Visenya had been the leader then the Targaryen dynasty would've died with them
well at the and.. it was still aegon and his sisters..
The simple facts impress me most. Arya knows the man Tywin is and whats he’s done in the presence of a reaper. saw her father beheaded by a Lying Lion. Still remains to only disclose the truth when questioned by a man who knows all to well about lies and deceitful strategy. This show was Peak television. Forever stained.
That “From my father.” hits so hard…..😔😔😔
I remember there was so much tension when I first watched this scene. But the dialogue was jus so on point I couldn't stop watching
Hits different after seeing S1 of HotD
I wonder if we'll ever get to see Vhagar in HoTD , Viserys clearly acknowledge she's still somewhere out there ❤️❤️❤️
Dark Sister is Daemon Targaryen's sword in "House of the Dragon"
it was also the sword of the three eye raven that bran meet
@@niallharrington3636 True.
Love Arya and her way of being ☺❤
Feels great being able to follow along after watching house of dragon
1:15 Tywin Lannister never smiles, but Arya made him laugh.
I LOVE HOW WITH NEW BOOK/SERIES WE CAN FINALLY PLACE A FACE TO THESE CHARACTERS!
Maybe the only time Tywin actually laughs
Tywin was intelligent to understand a lot of things that people tried their best to hide. He knew Arya was uigh born, knew she was a northerner, here and there he must have picked up other hints about her family. He should have put two and two together easily.
It is now certain that the next spin off after HOTD will be about Valeyria and the conquest of Westerous
I hope it’s Robert Rebelion
@@Ccm2019 as much as i like the Robert Rebellion as a live tv show and more then any other prequel or sequel but I'm am afraid that i may not love it that much without the cast that made us love those characters even i like lyanna to be played by same lyanna and Arthur dyane rheagar. I hope if they ever make Robert Rebellion tv show they bring back old cast
@@Ccm2019 Roberts Rebellion is covered pretty well already, best bet for a TV show would be the Blackfyre Rebellion(s) imo
That would be insanely expensive to make
Well, Aegon alone burned Harrenhal, his sisters were conquering elsewhere at the time. Though they all did their share of castle burning, just ask a Dornishman.
Okay, I will !
And the dornish took their fair share of Dragon Killing
tied with the Night King and Euron Greyjoy
@@michaelbeasley9401 well.... Only if you count this as Canon
False.
I love Tywin's "hah!" when Arya said most girls are idiots
I love this scene. Almost makes one like Tywin.
That castle is more crippled than I am, Your Grace.
Kind of sad that they had to retcon The song of ice and fire into the dagger she was using just so it would make sense that she was the one that killed the night King so that Jon Snow not being the prince that was promised could somehow make sense
Thank You Arya. These little stories are fantastic.
At the end 'From my father ' gave me chills
Last word of this video reminds me that I should teach something to my children... Hmmm...
It's so cool that we are actually getting to see Vhagar and Dark sister in House of the dragon.
Spoilers everywhere in Game of Thrones😂
- It was Aegon.
- Me.
Tywin Lannister and Otto Hightower are pretty much the same person. Slaved their daughters off to dying kings, personally oversaw the killings of their rivals, and both had kind of the same smug personality.
“Aegon and his sisters.”
- Aegon’s sister
Wouldve been interesting to see what Tywin and Arya’s relationship couldve been in an alternate timeline. One where Robert didnt die, kept Ned as hand, and upon returning to court, Tywin met Arya during her sword training and took a liking to her. Tbh Cersei probably wouldve seen her as a threat to her line and still caused another war.
bruh, Visenya rode vhagar and was wielding the valyrian steel sword: dark sister, and according to the history of westeros daemon targaryen plunged dark sister into the skull of aemond targaryen, the rider of vhagar during the dance of the dragons!!! awesome.
Bro is Arya the only person we’ve seen make Tywin laugh?
And here is Aegon and his sisters taking the North back!
@@aragorniielessar1894 Still sisters 😂😂😂😂