WHY 3 LOCOMOTIVES USED AS BANKER IN GHATS || BANKER में तीन इंजन क्यों लगते हैं
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Banker locomotive sirf train ko push Karne ke liye Nahi attached kiye jate incase Agar ghat par coach ki coupling toot jye or train 2 part me divide ho jye to Banker locomotive break se control karta he ! It's tha main reason to attached Banker locomotive !
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Bro toh 3 loco kyon lagta hai
@@BaZiGaR_JaY dono kaam ke liye break + pull
Agar ek loco fail ho to dusra or agar dusra fail ho jay to 3rd loco sambhal le .!
बहुत ही अच्छी वीडियो , बचपन में इगतपुरी रेलवे स्टेशन पर और कसारा रेलवे स्टेशन पर Lokomotive Change, and Banker attachment देखने बहुत मज़ा आता था। और घंटों तक स्टेशन पर खड़े रहकर Engine change & Banker attachment देखते ही रहता था।
आपने बहुत ही प्यारी और पुरानी यादें ताजा कर दी। बहुत ही उम्दा एवं सटीक वीडियो साझा किया आपने
धन्यवाद 🙏 आभार
Shubhamji bahot bahot shukriya video ke liye.
Kripayaa mere 5 sawaalon ka jawaab dijiye if possible:
1) Maine bahot si countries mein train mein yaatra ki hai. Sirf India ke trains mein hi maine dekha hai ki engine ki khidki par iron grill lagi hota hai. Aisa kyon? Grill lagaane ki kya vajah hai?
2) Kya Banker Locomotive baaki ke locomotive jaise hi hote hain ya unka nirmaan special ghat chadhaane ke liye hota hai? Mere kehne ka matbal ye hai ki kya kisi Banker Locomotive ka upyog kisi doosri train ko (for example: Nagpur - Bilaspur Passenger) kheenchane mein use kar sakte hain?
3) Kisi train ko adhik traction dene ke liye peechhe Push Engine lagaaya jaata hai. Kaun decide karta hai ki kitne engine lagne chahiye?
4) Sab engines mein kisi station ka naam hota hai, jaise Igatpuri, Bhusawal, Arakkonam, Ghaziabad ityadi. Iska kya matbal hai? Kyon naam likha jaata hai?
5) WAP7 (Wide, Alternating Current, Passenger, Version 7), WAP8 ((Wide, Alternating Current, Passenger, Version 8), WAM6 ((Wide, Alternating Current, Mix (matbal Passenger and Goods both) Version 6), ya phir WDM7 (Wide, Diesel, Mixed ) ityadi engines pe likha jaata hai jo sabko maloom hai. Kya Banker Locomotive ke alag se code hote hain?
Bahot bahot shukriya Shubhamji.
There maybe another reason for banker locomotives. On a severe incline , the following cars have a downward vector force which can stretch the joints between the cars . This can cause snapping of the joints or damage to them. Locomotive at the rear will counter this force and cause less stress while pushing forward
Locomotive attach karte hue video banayi n ser ji.ghat section ki.
the railways have either a 2 loco or a 3 loco MUed group.
there is no 4 locos setup (which someone said ,3 is the max no of locos which can be MUed together, not confirmed though)
so, what railways do is, if the train is a passenger train or an empty goods train, they add the 3-loco set at the rear but only last 2 are powered while the one closest to the train is simple dead weight, both its pantos will be down.
but for heavier trains, all 3 pantos are up ie all 3 locos are powered up.
sometimes even 1 banker loco can do the job effectively but for safety's sake, atleast 2 locos are always powered up)
When I was a Kid and even till 1980s, I could see ONLY ONE BANKER
At raising gradients slope bankers at rare portion of the boggies bankers required but at falling gradients slope bankers are not required as the front engine alone controls the entire boggies attached to it
In some heavy freight rakes, for descending ghat sections, extra locos are attached to the front of the train to increase the total braking power. These locos are called "braker" locomotives. That is why we see stuff like "penta WDG 4 locomotives heading a freight train descending the Braganza Ghats". Passenger trains in general do not need braker locomotives as the braking power of a single loco is more than enough to hold a rake at steady speeds.
However, braker locos are rare on ghat sections if there are catch sidings provided, where an out of control train could be safely captured and stopped on a reverse gradient. The Braganza Ghats do not have such catch sidings, so every heavy train uses braker locomotives.
Mera ek saval hy kisi station par originating or terminating trains ki sankhya equal kyu nhi hoti
Or ye posible kese hota hy
Sir Mai aapka bahut bada fan hun rain aaye ya tuphan aaye Mai aapka video pakka dekhta hun vasai road diva DMU me middle me only diesel engine lagta tha to vaha kaise dmu ko Chala pata tha please ek detail video banado bhai
Please request hai,
what happens if bankers are attached in forward instead of rear ?
Then the support will decrease if any one coupling of the locomotive breaks down, making the job more difficult for other locomotives to pull
No, Banker locomotive should be placed at back because these is physics. When train pull only on gradient then it will run continuously there is not problem, but the main problem is that force will exert at backward due to which there is high chance that coupling will break
Your explanation is awesome thanks sir for your nice information
Thanks and welcome
How do main engine and BANKER ENGINES communicate with each other and adjust speed control brakes etc?
Bahut acha video banaya hai apne
Kya train Mae RAAT ko KAR SAKTE hai? Please btao 🙏
Nice information
Non ghat section me Kabhi Kabhi twin ALCO ya WDM engine kyu lagate hai aur Woh v Dono engine start kiye huye
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Double decker container ke vajah se locomotive ke double height ki train hoti hai to height zyada hota hai over head wire ka, isliye pentograph utha huva hota hai, and all the over bridges are also with double height. Dedicated Corridor banta hai.
If pair of three banker locomotives are attached and if there is need of only two banker locomotives, does the extre locomotive draws power or runs idle?
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Bhaijaan coupling tutne par train reverse na ho or ek gati se train gradiant chade isliye coupler lagaye jaate hai
Shubham bhaiya great video ❤️❤️😄😁
An accurate video, going into the details of operations research for the train allocations. However, banker locos are not purely about pushing the load up the gradients. It's about ensuring that the load on the couplers does not exceed the tensile limits of all the couplers combined. At the start of the rake, the first coupler has to endure the entire weight of the rake in addition to the starting TE of the loco.
Screw couplers can handle massive loads of over 7000+tons on level ground, which makes it easy for locos to go full throttle on passenger rakes, but on gradients of 1:100, these couplers can only handle a total load of 1700 tons (due to gravity), whereas a full length passenger rake weighs around 1300-1500 tons. This leaves very little margin for startup TE of the loco, making stops and starts on the grade very difficult. And the Ghat Sections in and around Mumbai have ruling gradients of around 1:37 to 1:40, which leaves screw couplers unable to climb these without the push of the banker locos.
Even with CBC couplers, there is a limit of force of around 9,000 to 10,000 tons on level gradients, and on the steep ghats, they too end up needing banker locos, especially if the freight train is fully loaded. This is the key reason why the "python" rakes have to have a mid-section locomotive, to ensure that the lead locomotives do not tear the train apart with their excessive TE.
Thanks for info Shubham bhai.
Very informative video
Needs more clarity on this subject with real video
Thanks bhai waiting from much time for your video n info for same
बहुत अच्छी जानकारी दे दी आपने . लेकीन अभी के दौर में वन्दे भारत ट्रेन को बँकर नही लगाना पडता.
Info to sahi hai phir bhi maine Karjat station pe dekha hai ki goods train ko 2 banker lagaye the wo bhi wcam 3.....our Panvel - Pune passanger ko 3 bankers wag 7 lagaye the😁😁😁😁😁 bankers to apni duty karte hai koi bhi train kyo na ho bankers to kon se bhi lagaye jate hai our wo bhi 1 line me hi khade hote hai jo train aayegi our jis bankers ka pehla number hoga wo attach ke liye ready rehta hai wo 3 ho ya phir 2 ..lekin aaj tak aisi ghatna hui nhi ki kam bankers lagne ke karan coupling bich me se tuti ho😂😂😂😂
Push pull ko kevel cst rajdhani me hi kyo use kiya jata hai dusari trains me kyo nahi?
Push Pull requires two locomotive per one set of coaches, which can not be afford considering no of trains plying & available locomotives. Now Vande bharat trains having in built push pull locomotive
One question.
Mano agar train ka main engine kharab ho jata hai to kya bankers ki madat se poori train ko ghat chadwa sakte hai ya train dusare main engine aane ka wait karegi?
Shubham Kumarji, thanks a lot for very good information. I was always curious to know the reason behind 3 or 4 Banker Locomotives.
WHY???BANKER LOCOMOTIVE NOT USE IN ITARSI AND BHOPAL SECTION.
It is used in teenagaon chichonda section
It use only in goods train in budhni ghat
3 का पेअर, 4 का पेअर 🤣🤣
YEH BATAIYE KI KUCH JAGAHO PAR TRAIN GUJAR NE KE BAAD BHI SIGNAL GREEN SE RED KYU NAHI HOTA ISPAR EK VIDEO BANAIYE
Very informative video.
Spare Lokmotiv Extra Drear Control Ya Same Draevar Control Ansar Me
Bhaiya Multiple unit train k case mein kya hota hai ?
Kam informative.
Train ko shunting ke liye piche se engine lagya jata hain to aage jane ke liye us engine ko kaise oparate kiya kata hain matlab engine main baite loco pailot ko aage kaise dikhai deta hain
Very nice explained bhaiya😁
Chalo yah to ho gaya ab jo pahle old route tha Jo bhorghat Se jyada tha vah band kyon Hai uske upar bhi video bana do because Jo old route thought dikhne mein abhi bhi mast lagta 😅
Very nice information 👍👌
Thanks ❤️❤️❤️
Very nice Shubham Bhaiya. You are perfect as usually in your all previous videos.
Goods train ke complete 3 ya 4 loco use karte hi kya jabki passenger train me 1 ya 2 hi use karte hai baki 2 loco band karte hai kya
पॅसेंजर ट्रेन्स को 3 इलेक्ट्रिक इंजिनवला बँकर लगाया तो उनमेसे 1 इंजिनका पेंटोग्राफ नीचे रखा होता है
bhai sahib 1 locomotive 24 coach kheench leta hai
Bahi pls btayeee ki aap ke paas railways ki itni sari information h to aap loco pilot kyu nahi bane plz btayeee🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Na jaane kaun sa namak hai in aankho ke paani mai,
Barasti to chehre se hai magar jalan dil mai hoti hai 💔 💔
Bahut acha info tha bhayya ❤️❤️ hamara support hamesha aapke sath rahegaa 👍 tq so much bahut kuch seekhen ko milta hay aapsey
There are lots of ups and downs between Bangarpet and jolarpettai section equivalent to Mumbai Pune section even then they attach only one locomotive in the front
Depends on the gradient height as well. Mum-Pune and Mum-Igatpuri section gradients are massive and the climb is steep whereas Bangalore - Chennai, Bangalore - Makalidurga secton lines don't have that much steep gradients.
@@siddheshshanbhag no once I saw there where very steep gradients b/w bwt and jtj
Nhi aaaya
Very Good Information For Shubham Bhai. 😀🙂
Egatpuri Railway staition Ghat yeriya
Good informaton
Happy bdy deccan queen
bankers main steem loco ka koi video aay to jarur dikhna ....baaki aaj ki jaankari kaafi hay...
Janab india me kidar kidar bankers lagte hi
Banker locomotives fulfill two purposes.
1. Pushing is just one aspect.
SECOND and the more important aspect is braking. In trains the braking system used is normally applied- it means by default the brakes of a train are applied by default. Only when the locomotives are attached the compressors must help generate pressure enough to disengage the brakes apart from acceleration. The rear locomotives assist the main locomotive balance the pressure required to keep the brakes disengaged.
Three bankers se electricity bhi toh jyada karch hoti hai
banker locomotivw 3-4 loco use krne se acha hai wag 12 ka use kre .bcoz wag 5 ka use krkr koi fyda nhi hai jbki wag 12 k pass 120000 ka horsepower hai
It has enough power but the couplers might not be capable
12 k
Power is useless in gradient area
As it is only 8 traction motor
So wheels slip kar jayenge
Phir jammu kashmir me Banker locomotive kyu nahi lagaya jata hai balki
Katre se raste se ghar hi ghat hai.... Boutt risk bhi hai ...
❤️❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯Shubham u make so many videos atleast make one telling people how useful it would b to have 8 vande bharat given to 8 cities infact of 8 vande barat 4can b made into 8 ie of 8 coaches or 8 so that 8 cities can run w 8 coaches nd 4 w 16coaches producex each month ie 12nos nd 8 given to 8 cities ie 100cities covered in total in a yr and each VB if it does 1600kms a day ie 8 can do 1hr runs of 100kms carrying nearly 1.44lalh passengers in 8 runs apiece in 8 cities as 1hr trains, rest of the 4vb can do 700-800km 8hr runs as intercity connecting 4-5citoes at 150kms distance ❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🙏🙏or pin this one decent decision can change India in one yr, 8 cities every mth
Even from Vasco to Londa section same are done
Manish bhai ye badlapur stn hai na mumbai ka
Pahle 2 ka pair aata tha.
हालांकि इस सवाल का जवाब अभी तक नही मिला कि दूसरे पैसेंजर गाड़ियों में ज्यादा और राजधानी जैसी गाड़ियों में कम banker locomotives क्यों लगाए जाते हैं?
Rajdhani ( CSMT ) has push pull concept. One engine in front and one on the rear. Hence it does not need bankers.
Well explained
Thankyou shubam sir 👍❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Khandala pe nahi igatpuri pe lagta hai
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Is the banker controlled by the main loco ?
Apparently no. These bankers are attached only for these short distances and detached at Lonavala or Igatpuri and will have their own loco pilots. The pilot of main front loco will talk and coordinate the running through talks on the walkie talkie and by sounding the whistle to certain standard codes.
@@gkrishnan4829 thanks for the reply...i thought the front loco inputs were synchronised to bankers
@@manan3230 Yes, synchronised controls and inputs are there in where there are two locomotives either in front or one at either end where there are no pilots and in the second locos where two or more locos haul the train start to end. So is the case of 22221 Rajdhani Express via Manmad and Bhopal with extra locomotive at rear end of the train but no loco pilots there.
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Are bhai jldi bol... Subeh panvel nikalna hai..
Are bhai dhakkan, ghat section me train ki weight ke hisaab se locomotives lagte hai, kisi me 2 tho kii me 3, ye zaruri nhi hai ke sab me 3 ya 4 hi Lage, aur inko jodne nikaalne ka kaam sirf minutes me hota hai, ......
Bekaar ki video banaana chhodo
sir me loco pilot hu 🙏
Bahi mujhe samajh me nhi aaya
batao kya samjh nahi aaya
Are sadha knowledge nahi aapko are train upar chadhte samay piche se na locomotive ko chodna nahi chahiye isliye banker locomotive lagate hai
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Bakwaas jyaada bolte ho
मुझे लगा था एक इंजन पंचर हो जाए तो आगे वाले को खोल के पीछे लगा दे ..अभी अपने बताया तो समझ गया
आप cut to cut नहीं, बेवजह की बात समझा रहे हैं
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Are yeto chota bachha bhi kah sakega lekin aap to uske bahar ke ho sadha knowledge nahi hai aapko train upar chadhate samay kuch problem na aaye isliye
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Pahale khudhi samajlo Bhai.🦵👼
Mote
तेरी एकभी व्हिडिओ जरा भी समझने मे नही आती. कितना बोलता हे
Abe chu😂
Now Also WCAM3 Locomotive Is Also Running At All. 🇮🇳🚉
Nice information