Lesser Garth Cave / Ogof Ffynnon Taf
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2012
- Another cave in the series 'We do these caves so that you don't have to.'
Ogof Ffynnon Taf was first explored in 1986 after the entrance was uncovered by quarrying. It is now only accessible via Lesser Garth Cave as the original entrance has been filled in, however the connection between the two caves contains a number of physical challenges. Ogof Ffynnon Taf contains some really superb cave formations, but they can only be viewed by those cavers thin enough and determined enough to make a visit.
Filmed on Sunday 29th April 2012. 
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I don't know why I watch this stuff..
I don’t know why I watch it either! 🤦♀️
Same I already have a fear of this shit🤦🏼♀️
Same
me too, it is terrifying.
Same
I've got a severe phobia of wasps but i'd rather play football with a wasps nest daily, than attempt this once.
hardcoretam lmao 🙌🏼
Me too if you need a warm body.
omg thats literally me! i have a severe phobia of wasps too but i’d do exactly what you just said. proves how bad that really is to me.
what I dont understand is for these super tight passages, how does the first person to ever go down them know that they wont reach a dead end and get stuck there, brave, BRAVE people!!!
It's a thought that has crossed my mind too. I don't think I could be the first.
One might argue it's even really brave to go in after the first guy, haha.
It's always on one's mind that it might not be as easy to get back out.
i always thought the smartest thing to do is to have a 2-way camera system like a go pro with a feedback monitor and be able to put the camera on a very long stick to push it through these very tight squeezes for future endeavors that are unexplored. I would NOT wanna be the guy/gal to take the first glance and figure out that i can't turn around or go backwards due to positioning like at *the coffin* part at 6:10.
If you reach a dead end, you Back out the way you came in.
I have such a fear of tight spaces, especially with low ceilings, just watching these videos helps me face the fear- and I’m on my couch at home. Saw a video where a caver said that going deeper into the cave was going deeper inside himself and I can’t think of a better way to truly face your darkest mental, emotional and spiritual corners than when squeezing yourself through a “choke”. Bless you all for having the guts to face life in such a way. I’m off to fit through the wide berth of the hallway between my living room and the kitchen pantry. My weekend exploration!
Thanks for the comment. I'm just back from a weekend's caving. Still love going to these places.
Until you get stuck. Rip john jones
@@jasons1769 mate getting stuck like that very rarely happens.
I've been watching these video for the past 2-3 days and god these are weird but fun to watch and god I would never put a feet in a cave like this
Thanks for watching. Keep up the good work.
I've been watching these videos therapeutically. Maybe one day I'll stop being claustrophobic. Though I doubt it.
Same not for a 1 million dollars i would go in there
They really do help!
How’s it going you think?
I had to hold my breath just watching this video !!!
11 minutes 13 seconds. World record!!
respect, I would never try it.
For most of these fits I would be more worried about getting out than getting through...
Zag me too haha
Same here
Dear lord 😱 watching this is giving me a heart attack but I can’t stop watching it 🤷♀️
Cheers
Good on you Keith for answering all the questions it’s very interesting.
I’d never do this in a million years but for some strange it’s enjoyable to watch!
when you are too big for the McDonald's playground slide
If I get stuck, leave me in there until I starve down to small enough to fit through.....
proof that the line between crazy and brave is a very thin one ...
Nothing brave about this! This is just absurd! Lol
I have watched five of this guys videos and I just amazed at anyone willing to do this
Imagine getting in easy but on the way out the cave falls in love with u so it decides to keep u
i can not believe i am feeling really panicked just watching u guys.
Me too. I’m still having panic attacks and nightmares from am MRI and I had had a diazepam lol.
You got my respect on this one. Thank you for sharing these rare caves in there natural beauty.
I’m that guy like I’ll wait out here for ya lmao
“iM sO gLAd i SToPPeD cAViNg aFTeR mY bIRtH”
I wish I had £1 for every time this comment was made about one of my caving videos. I could retire.
Hang on a minute.
. . . . . .
I am retired!
When ever I feel stressed, I just watch you guys & feel all peachy inside that I'm not there ,wahala! : ) tyvm 💖
My pleasure.
I give you and your team lots of credit....
I think my phobias are saving my life at this point
At 3:00 how the heck do you get out of there if you can barely get in there?!?
ZagPC thats always what i think
Thats like the worst part😩💯
@The Numb Might.
It’s called a 5point turn, they find small holes in the cave and wiggle themselves around
@@rossm.80 That's a bold strategy there, Cotton.
those wet calcite walls must constantly be getting tighter and tighter though
The credits🤣🤣👌🏼.. Loved the video, it was a real challenge going in and coming out❤️
Absolute respect to you all but I really can't think of anything worse to do.
@6:41 I would've tapped out.
Yeah... computer end program computer end program COMPUTER END PROGRAMMMM!!!!!!!
@0:36 I would have turned around, walked back to my car, turned on the ignition and drove home!!!
0:00 I would of tapped out
@@seb8636 would've: would have.
At -0:00 I would have tapped out
The Coffin. No comment. You guys and gals are amazing! Give me my diving 30 metres underwater any day! I love Keith’s matter of fact commentary ☺️
the credits roll made me chortle after being so stressed out for the narrow wriggly bits! thank you for humanising the sport for us; this one come-along has done what countless reports and documentaries couldn't: driven into my understanding why, and how sense of humour and morale are as important for explorations as technical skills and good judgement. again, thanks muchly for helping a non sporty person understand why sports!
Firstly thanks for watching and persevering to the very end.
Many of the comments on my caving videos ask the question, "Why?"
It's almost impossible to explain why we do it to anyone who doesn't cave but you get it! It's a shared experience, there's great camaraderie and we do have enormous fun. Re-watching this video has brought back brilliant memories of good times spend in the company of my fellow cavers.
Id be like "ill stay out here and make sure the car stays warm"
Does it ever cross your mind that if someone has an emergency there is no quick way out?
Hats off to you guys,I am panicking now. You guys are crazy but i'm subscribing.:) Im so claustrophobic it's crazy but like watching you all!!!
Thanks very much for subscribing.
These videos are brilliant! Terrifying, but brilliant. A really cool look at places in the world I'd never be able to squish myself into.
Glad you like them!
Making it in is one thing. You still have too make it out. .
Used to go here regularly. We would park in the Ty Nant pub of an evening have a blast through the cave then return to the pub and sit outside in our stinking overalls! The pub changed since then and im sure they wouldn't be impressed these days. Was a great little cave. I used to be a member of the Taffs Well caving club and went through here with John Brakespear and Martin Probert who were the guys who went first. Back in the 80's was unlocked and anyone could get in there. The curtain formations in the main chamber were very musical if tapped! I recall there was another small cave on the rockface overlooking the river. We tried that a few times with hammers and chisels but could never quite get through it. Not sure if that ever went any further. Brings back memories of those squeezes!
Hi. It's great to get comments like this. That's for watching and for sharing your recollections. It remains one of my favourite caving trips.
As a caver, I think people who don't cave enjoy these videos the most. Having squeezed through tight spaces (sometimes with spiders) i guess that's something you can't quite understand until you do it lol
Hi. I'm sure you are correct. The vast majority of my viewers are non-cavers and the comment that I get more than any other is, "Why?" followed by "You're crazy" and then "I couldn't do it."
Can't stop watching
I can’t come up with the words to express how much this disturbs me.
If it were a passage from a large opening to an exit, It would be terrifying. Having to go back again is just insane.
I’m a roofer who is afraid of heights but it pays well
so I do it.
I wouldn’t go through that kind of cave for a billion dollars. I hope they carry a gun in case they get stuck.
No guns in the UK.
I love to go to caves that are open to the public and have done what is in this video a couple of times in a few private caves. Honestly, I dont really see the point. These are usually featureless caves with very few formations. To each his own and they must be getting something out of it. I personally dont understand the draw of it.
Brilliant video! I have recently become fascinated with watching and reading caving experiences, would really love to try it out some time
Thanks. Well I've been obsessed with caving for over 25 years. You really should give it a go.
Keith Edwards How would you recommend I get started? I live in London, but don't mind taking a weekend trip to somewhere in the UK. How easy is it to do this sort of thing? Are there lots of restrictions and limited access? Is it best to join a caving club of some sort?
Hi. The best advice is to join a club. If you go to www.trycaving.org.uk you should be able to find a suitable one.
Keith Edwards Thanks, appreciate it :)
When you see brilliant and love in one sentence you know the person is English.
I got the shivers just watching this. Lol
Really find these videos quite interesting.
+Beetroot Gains Thanks.
Love watching this !! Maybe my claustrophobic mind helps.
Fat Caver 1, Fat Caver 2. Lol you guys are a hoot.
Amazing video. Gives new meaning to: know thyself.
wow i love the videos!
Thanks.
I'm in absolutely no way at all inclined to even try anything half as adventurous, dangerous or down right insane as this, but I'm grateful there are people who do, because it's absolutely beautiful under there, and it's amazing to see how different our world is, in places that very few people would see. I'm an amateur photographer, and some of the stills that you've shown here are simply breathtaking. I really do like these videos, even though I'm squeezing and wriggling watching them, and it really makes me stop and think how brilliant the human mind is, for instance, I'm sure some of you people would think that driving a Porsche 911 at 240kph, braking with centimetres to spare and tipping the car into a right hand bend at 100kph is something so dangerous and ridiculous that no one should ever do it, where as I would try to go faster. What I perceive to be a complicated, dangerous, but relatively easy to execute manoeuvre on the track, is the same as you and your mindset for caving.
What a great comment and it about sums it up really.
Keith Edwards thanks Keith. The human mind is amazing, isnt it? Some things are almost second nature to some, and some things you cannot teach or train.
Very well said. I love watching these vids. I’ll never do this lol, but love watching :-)
240 isnt that fast, look at irish roadracing. That is fast
Imagine being there and the water level starts to rise up.
Sorry to disappoint but this is a dry system. No active stream and hence no risk of flooding.
Does the camera guy have like noclip on or smt?
This video deserves a much better title. Something along the lines of 'How to feel claustrophobia from the comfort of your own home'…. Maybe?
I like to imagine the feeling these carvers feel when they're squeezing through such tight crevices is the same feeling as being lost in a store as a kid.
Obviously you guys are experienced which explains why you aren't terrified. I'd be worried about my headlamp breaking or someone getting stuck.
Flipping hell, thought I’d have a gander under there till I watched that
At the entrance of all caves there should be a statistic of all the people's height, weight, breast-/belly-/hip size that made it through the cave ... or not! 😊
This is madness!
It was a little snug.
LOL! You sir are more brave than I. The most dangerous thing I do is take my boat into the ocean for some fishing.
So beautiful
Wow now that’s my old playground. How long has the gates been on there. We used to wrap a rope around us and abseil down that drop tied the rope out on the big rock above the drop. and have to chimney back up at the end of the trip. I don’t quite remember it being that tight but yes helmet off for the squeeze ( i was shouting at the screen LOL) the coffin and the coffin and the traverse were always hold your breath an go for it moments. The formations in lesser garth are really good and the bacon rashers as we used to call them are awesome I have the same photo of my mate looking up at them somewhere.
Back out in the main chamber at the end there used to be a draft and its general location direction was meeting up with the direction of the cave in the face of cliff facing castel Coch. It has never been pushed as the choke was way too unstable
It was really SCARRY traversing the cliff face to get to that one i can tell you. Only done that twice. It was not that big though and very precarious in there.
OFT though loads of times over quite a few years.
we used to slide back down the hil by sitting back on one foot and see how far and fast we could go as we slid down. Ten minutes to climb up 20 seconds to get down.
Once done a cave search of it when requested by police who were looking for a young one who had gone missing and sadly chose never to return home. A sad day for her, her family and all that searched for her.
Thanks for posting
All I can think about is that you have to go back! Keep carm and carry on!!! That should be written on your grave stone, in the most positive way meant. Super brave.carm and slippery. Xxx
I only wonder one thing when I watch these kinds of videos. "WHY“. 🙄. Thanks for another anxiety attack.👍🏻
I wouldn't try to squeeze through that even if I were an octopus.
I'm glad I was born allergic to spelunking!!
Do you ever panic when in them tight spots?
of curse they do, but they like that feeling, thats why they go doen there.
Joey Diaz I'm sure it helps to have buddies heckling you.
Panicking is the worst thing to do. Getting stuck is somethiing we dont think about
@@majortom4543 No, that's called adrenaline.
@@Tcrror You are confusing 2 different things. Dont worry though, learn from today teach tomorrow
A bit scary to know that someone went in that cave, to find out a way to crawl in and finding out it's good to go. Did you ever discovered a cave yourself and how did that went?
For all these videos the time my eyes are fixed on the video itself is far less than the time they are focused on the comments🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
I crawled about an American football field length down a small storm runoff drain once. Once i got to the end i was in a little room but there was no way out and i realized i had to crawl back through the pipe to get out, it took all my mental strength not to go into a full panic.
Youd make a good caver then. Learning to control your emotions is great thing to have in caves
So you are negotiating a really tight squeeze after four or so others and its taken you minutes so far. You then get a text saying there's torrential rain outside... RESPECT
Not possible. No phone signal in caves.
All that for a couple pictures? I’m out
Unless they’re coming out with pockets full of diamonds, there’s no reason to do this.
This goes against the #1 rule for caving which I saw on another caving video and I fully endorse - "Never go caving, this simple rule drastically reduces your chances of getting horribly stuck in a cave"
🤣
Just wondering that if you have to get through those same constrictions as in the way in, but now with fatigue and from and different angle, isn't the risk of getting stuck much higher?
seeing all this repeatedly makes my claustrophobia diminish...
Pleased to have been of help. Please keep watching I need the views. 😀
Hi , I know Lesser garth cave and Ffynnon taf well, I live in Cardiff so it was my go to cave , one of our team had to strip to underwear to get through the squeeze, the first chamber encountered after this if I remember rightly was tad dodgy due to the quarry works, was last in there around 1999 no gate at entrance then. good times.
Caving has given me so many happy memories.
Tbh it looks fun
Who was the first to access these cave so the other cave explorers after them new they was accessible
Look Ma!!!!! I'm a Inchworm. ♥️🐛💛
I watch this because I could never go in that shit these guys are crazy. I always think what if the tunnel just ends and you can't turn around.
Keith, my heart is beating fast watching you go through these tight spaces. But I have a question. (I know nothing about caving).
Is air quality ever an issue? I see four of you breathing pretty hard in some very small spaces a long way from fresh air. Is depleting the oxygen a potential issue? Or is that something that just doesn't seem to come up for some reason?
+Leopold3131 Air quality is rarely an issue. Caves are like Swiss Cheese - full of holes so there is generally air flow in almost all cave passages.
I love watching this but would absolutely never do it because it terrifies me. I would be ruled by two thoughts. One, im never going to get back out and two the brains default tendency to decide thats it I want out NOW. But because you are un a tight cave you cannot satisfy the brains demand for instant release and freedom, this would trigger a panic attack in me. I really admire the bravery and mind control of those who do these things. This looked quite intense at parts.
Great video well explained but hard to watch aswell,wouldnt do that stuff myself..
Keith is the Jedi Master of Caving Zen.
how about an earthquake would that make you get through the cave faster?
Lol, thanks for that... I snorted my coffee. Hot coffee in the sinus tract, by the way, really wakes you up quickly. LoL
Fair Witness cocaine works better
Beetlejuice nah heroin foes
Shut up lol you kidding right. Heroin will knock you cold out
This shit stresses me out so much. Damn.
You guys best hope your life insurance agents don’t come across this video lol
I would rather walk up a hill and watch the sunset. Easier to get home that way.
The new Elder Scrolls DLC looks dope
"I think something is in my chest pocket"
"Your chest?"
"OH yeah, I think you're right"
Do you have a natural inclination to avoid panicking in restricted squeezes? Is there a mental technique used? A matter of experience and acclimatizing yourself to it? Caving seems to be a confrontation of the summation of almost all human fears from heights, to darkness, to confined spaces, and the sense of being trapped. It is quite amazing to see people in video after video regularly overcoming them.
+HeliosWorksAV I guess we have no imagination! I don't like crowded places and get a feeling of claustrophobia but squeezing through tight spaces has never bothered me. I don't mind heights or the darkness either but do not like going through sumps.
Pleased you are liking the videos.
+Keith Edwards (Caver Keith) Thanks for answering my questions.
I've never went caving(would love to though, I love all outdoor sports) but I personally have almost the opposite effect of claustrophobia, I actually enjoy to be crammed into small spaces, always have since I was a child. I feel very safe and secure in a tiny space, like being in the womb. Some people just aren't made for this type of thing.
The sport that scares me the most is diving, seems like so much work for not so much reward, and I've got a deviated septum, hole in my right ear, and my clavicle is pressing slightly on my airway from a climbing fall, so I can't see me doing well at diving until taking care of those things.
Cuz they are together. That would be a huge factor in reducing the level of fear each person experiences. Imagine having to go through all of that by yourself, with no one to talk to or to count on when you're a bit stuck. How scary is that?
To be honest I can’t fathom doing anything like this the minute I felt stuck I would have a heart attack and die 😳
Hi Brittany. Thanks for watching so many of my videos and taking the time to comment. It is appreciated. Caving is an incredibly safe sport, it really is. Deaths underground and incidents of people getting stuck are extremely rare, so rare that they almost always make news headlines. John Jones was very unlucky but it does seem that he may have broken a golden rule of cave exploration which is never enter a tight downwards sloping passage head first as it is very difficult to back out if it proves to be a dead end.
"2 dodgy P bolts" LOL. Is the cave SSSI ? If it isn't, would it be worth popping the squeeze (as the other entrance is filled in) as so many people are unable to so the cave because of it ? Having said that, the 2nd squeeze (the coffin?) didn't look much easier and the 3rd was just crazy :o) Loved the camera sound effects and the flash of a negative frame (made it look like everyone had been shot by a Dalek!)
I noticed that when doing these inward for the first time you go feet-first when possible, presumably in case you get wedged? I'd go feet-first into the nearest taxi, but that's just me.
Just imagine going there alone and getting stuck... Then, your flashlight runs out of battery... 😟
Sweet.
Progress! I made it to about 3 minutes before I had to go for a lie-down! Being perhaps an overly thinking person and, apart from the normal phobia reaction, what if the way through such tight squeezes is just OK because the walls are smooth BUT what if the return entrance has sharp edges etc - so it's effectively a one way-trip? Uggggghhhhh!
Wow. Amazing. I struggle to watch.
10:48 Lol @ the credits though. "Fat Caver 1 & 2"
Oh my word that's tight .. stuff that but good effort for the vid ..
What amazes me most is the baggy clothes cave crawlers wear?
Now I know how my poo feels.
I'm having panic attacks just watching but I'm so intrigued
This is one of the tightest squeezes I have ever been through and as you will have seen none of us thought we would be able to do it, and we were all more than a little apprehensive about coming back through it!
Keith Edwards I'm not surprised.. balls of steel you all have. My god , your calm narrative doesn't do justice to this
Seems like the Dudley Caving Club is one of the most fun clubs in the UK.
We like to think so. We really do enjoy our caving.
Unless u find diamonds in these caves it ain’t worth it to me I’m panicking just watching this
Heh