I uninstalled the Borla axle back exhaust on my IS 500: Here’s why.
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- After a few months and 700 miles with the Borla S-Type axle back exhaust on my IS 500, I decided to uninstall it and go back to just the Apexi resonated midpipe with the OEM axle back.
Borla S-Type Axle Back + Apexi Resonated Midpipe...
The good:
Sounds incredible at WOT
Downshifts in Sport+ pop and crackle, and they sound amazing
No drone on the highway below 75mph
The combination of midpipe + axle back results in a cat back exhaust that does improve performance slightly (yes, you can feel it)
The bad:
Overwhelmingly boomy and high frequency buzzing in the cabin at 2,200-2,750rpm
Drones on the highway above 75mph
Compared to some other systems, the 4" tips aren't my favorite
It's LOUD: Cold start, even once broken in, is so loud that it can be heard around the block or from several houses away
The Borla is so loud that it overshadows the engine's induction noise, which is one of the best things about the 2UR-GSE
Overall there were things about this setup I liked and some that I didn't. Some will mention Borla's no-drone guarantee and as a Borla fan who has Borla exhaust on other cars... that guarantee doesn't extend to other brand's midpipes, and understandably so. My expectation is that the Borla axle back alone is not as loud and probably sounds great with no drone. I chose to keep the Apexi midpipe because of the proven performance gains from that mod by itself.
Nice update man appreciate! I have a couple thousand miles on just Borla axle back with stock midpipe and it hits right where I was looking for. This helps me with any ideas of an aftermarket midpipe as I don’t want it annoying the neighbors or me inside the cabin.
I think just the Borla is probably perfect! Glad you like it 👍
Yeah it works great for me coz the stock setup was just too quiet for me but I didn’t want anything obnoxious either. Looking at getting a tune from Loi after I get a few more miles logged to fine tune what Lexus leaves on the table. Are you tuned?
IMO, Apexi Res mid pipe alone is the best combination between exhaust and the induction noise. The midpipe alone isn't as fast as cars with full cat back but it is better than the oem for sure. I can now pass cars with 8th gear on the highway without downshifting. This wasn't possible before the installation.
Agreed. It’s the single best mod for this car I’d say.
arm + oem muffler is best setup if you don't want to piss off your neighborhood and is quiet for freeway cruise
Bro, I had a complete set of GThaus installed, and it sounds way louder than the Borla. I have no complaints so far, but I have received compliments about the neighbors not needing an alarm clock to wake them up 😂.
Looks awesome in silver. And I dig the wheels.
Thank you!
What are those wheels?
Appreciate the opinions about the sound and drone of the products you installed. I am shopping for IS exhausts for my new 500 and want to make a smart purchase that I don't regret on the highway.
Those wheels and the fitment are super-boss! LOL @ Neighbors hearing the car. Yeah, that's not the vibe you want to give. 🙂
Exactly... when neighbors know when you come and go... that's a little too much for me 😭
Completely understand. Definitely no drone with just the Apexi resonated midpipe. I’ve got the Invidia Q300 axle back on my 500 and you’re right, it’s very loud on cold start. Trick for me is to quickly get it into reverse to drop the idle RPM.
I have found my combo not unbearable. In my mid 40s so definitely don’t want to roar awake the neighbors at 6am. Was actually surprised a couple of my neighbors mentioned it wasn’t that loud after I preemptively apologized to them.
Separately - what wheels & tire sizes are you running? Those look GREAT !!!
Nice video! It really sucks that exhausts cost mutliple thousands of dollars and you know within about 5 minutes after installing it if you like it or not. Trial and error gets very expensive with exhausts 😂
Agreed. Getting it right and enjoying the car is certainly important too though. I'll likely sell the Borla soon to recoup some of the money!
That’s a sexy car man.
@@THeN9nEefFeCT thank you!
@@FINALV8
just an FYI for everyone:
RPM is RPM, not RPMs.
RPM is revolutionS per minute.
RPMs is revolutions per minuteS which makes no sense
Anyone that says RPMs doesn't know what they're talking about. It would be the same as PSIs. PSI is pounds per square inch. PSIs would be Pounds per square inches.
Otherwise, great video and good personal insights.
Thank you for keeping us updated . I have order the Apexi Resonated midpipe but still can't decide which axlenack to pair it with .
Apexi resonated midpipe is a great start... and plenty of good axle back options too. Let me know which you end up with!
I was considering non resonated because of you’re videos but I haven’t heard one in person but im thinking ima do a resonated mid pipe and keep the rest of the exhaust stock I love how the car sounds over 3k with the stock setup I just wish it was a bit more
I think unresonated midpipe by itself is probably a great sound for the car. It's just pairing with an axle back that makes it super loud 😃
Hello! Beautiful car! Just picked up my is500 and installed borla exhaust. It sounds great but would like it to sound like this. Only thing that concerns me is cabin noise and drone. Is it that bad? I'm not worried about neighbors because I live on a big land in the middle of nowhere.
@@husamshuayb99 cabin noise and drone are definitely pretty noticeable with Borla + the Apexi midpipe, unfortunately.
I need to replace my Invidia q300 axleback with something, you think the borla axleback will mate to the invidia midpipe? It all fits like stock anyway, correct?
@@dennisprow7576 in theory I believe it should work since they’re both spec’ed for the IS 500. Good luck 👍
Just imagine if you had the non resonated mid pipe with borla axleback that would be even more louder
@@bljtgill for sure. A few people have done the unresonated midpipe + Borla axle back and I believe most have uninstalled one or the other because it’s so loud. I can’t imagine that combo with how loud the resonated midpipe is with the Borla.
@@FINALV8I did a borla with my gt haus midpipe. It sounds loud and amazing and everyone loves it but I can say it did ruin the daily drivability a little with the extra rumbles and vibrations. Wanting to upgrade to the full gthaus cat back when I get enough saved. Wondering if that will fix what the borla failed at for me. Still love the sound with the windows open tho lol.
Louder=more loud
@@FINALV8 I actually have that exact combo lol. Apexi non resonated mid pipe + Borla AB. I've had it on for roughly 1,500 miles now, and it's smoothed out quite a bit. It's loud for sure, but the majority of the attention I get is very positive. Most people are just shocked a Lexus can produce a sound this incredible. I think how loud your exhaust is comes down to 1) personal preference, and 2) where you live, aka how cool your neighbors are.
great color -- what does Lexus call it ? Wish someone was building this motor with super charger or turbo kit.
@@holmesroach thank you. This color is Atomic Silver and it’s one of my favorites for sure.
Hello, do you lose the exhaust valve button feature when getting the Apexi Resonated Midpipe? I REALLY want to get this for my wife but I know she would want to retain that key feature.
@@ishinish there is no exhaust valve button feature on the IS 500.
@@FINALV8I realized that after I posted 🤦🏾♂️ lol. For some reason I thought there was but I confused it with the sports plus mode 😂
Thank you for your reply! That actually simplifies things much easier. We live in California. Do you think this will cause smog issues? She also has a warranty through Lexus as well. It will probably void the warranty though.
Lastly, did you install yourself? I’m hoping I can just do this myself as I do most car work myself.
btw do you have a matte ppf your IS500? not sure if it's the camera or just me...looks like the silver is a bit matte
@@tubedude92 nope, just the normal XPEL ultimate clear stuff 👍
So far corsa are the only muffler I’ve owned that have zero drone. And i’m in my 50s now lol so I’ve have a lot of set ups. And I have their ‘extreme’ mufflers in my 07 GT500 which are their loudest.
Borla touring didn’t drone much but was too quiet.
Ive heard good things about Corsa - good to know!
Try the RR bazooka. It’s valved so you can have it quiet and loud when you want. The only thing is when I looked at it once on their website, I think you have to buy their midpipe too. However it does sound great. Also I love the IS 500, I wish I could afford one. However recently I got a pre owned ‘19 ES 350 for a good deal and it’s plenty fast for me tbh, especially on the highway
I had this on my RCF really was perfect. I'm probably going to just do borla on the 500 though.
I did a muffler delete on mone, and exactly from 2000-3000 rpm under load is very boomy. Not overwhelming but on a long drive it gets annoying. My shop is going to add in two small resonators. Otherwise the sound is perfect...just loud enough and at full throttle screams in a beautiful symphony. But that drone...it's gotta go. Those little stock mufflers were doing a lot of heavy lifting back there.
Agreed. Muffler delete on this engine sounds great!
nice rims
What about just the axle back system with no aftermarket midpipe for just sound purposes?
Just the Borla axle back and nothing else? I think that sounds great.
man nice wheels...what are the specs of those wheels and tires?
@@tubedude92 thanks!
Wheels: BBS CI-R in Diamond Black finish
Front: 20x9, et: 36
Rear: 20x10 et: 44
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4
Front: 235/35 20
Rear: 275/30 20
@@FINALV8 you’re welcome…very beautiful thanks!
would you ever sell the exaust?
I have the apexi non resinated midpipe and it's perfect with the stock axle back.
Any drone cruising on highway?
@@E99584 no it's perfect. No drone
PPE has me in a chokehold.
I dont care what any1 says i removed resonators /mufflers on all my cars and I HAVE always noticed a lack of powder in the butt dyno.
A lack of power?
Are those LFA rims?
Wheel is BBS CI-R in diamond black - similar in look to the LFA though.
Pretty sure we are neighbors, within 2-3 miles. We should link up
@@juntan1294 hey Jun - where do you live? There’s a group on fb called “Atlanta Lexus Owners and Enthusiasts” if you’re in the area.
@@FINALV8 Im in the Ashford/Brookhaven area. Currently in a 2015 Black RCF, my last one was gray but was totaled earlier this year.
What kind of wheels are those?
BBS CI-R in diamond black finish.
Such a nice engine and style from Lexus thats it makes it that much more shameful that they only devided to give it an outdated torque converted auto trans. Such a shame!
Definitely would prefer the 10AT from the LC 500, but you learn to live with the 8AT haha.
I would just put a PPE headers and call it a day.
Can you Make a quick video of your car payments and expenses please.
"Don't you mean wabaki?"
Get a JoeZ and call it a day. I love mine and it has zero drone.
No support from Joe Z for the IS 500 unfortunately - I wish.
@@FINALV8 No shit? I would just buy one for the gsf and modify it.
let us hear it bruh wtf
@@adzappin_2567 check the rest of my videos - plenty there