That is because there is No turbo on the light...However they should implement as they need More Speed to get you to the Service Dept....we akll know that Porsche beemers and cedes all make their money in their SERVICE dept!
Relax bro its not that deep. I watched the whole thing and realized if you are just going to look at the CR and decide the why make a video in the first place. We all know the b58 is reliable and new lexus are questionable. Yet based on the CR Lexus is more reliable still.
The comments show people did not listen to the video: - He did not say BMWs are more reliable than Lexus. Only that Lexus is now having issues because they are forced to use smaller, turbo charged engines. BMW went through this process and have better engines and engine support systems now. - Yes, there are still recalls on BMWs. Many of the recalls people are pointing to are from BMWs from the same years and engines that are described as being very unreliable in the video. Saying the a water pump recall on a N55 platform disproves this video when he literally points out how bad the plastic water pumps on BMWs were shows you were too busy writing comments to listen. - He in no way is telling you to buy a BMW over a Lexus. If you still want a Lexus, by all means get one. He is just pointing out that you should be cautious about the Lexus you are purchasing and do your homework. Just like you should be very cautious before buying a used BMW. Don't assume that just because Lexus has great reliability means these new turbo charged engines will be without any issues.
He says that 'in 2024 Lexus reliability and BMW reliability are much closer' but the figures show you are more than 38% more likely to have a failure with a BMW than with a Lexus He says of BMW 'clearly they're much better than the average' quoting figures which indicate they are actually only 1% better. For reference Lexus are 28.5% better than average.
In 2018 my wife went to dealer to purchase a certified 2016 BMW X3 and after few hours she decided to buy 2015 Lexus NX200t and she is happy with her Lexus. No problems at all!
Haha, same, had a bmw x3 and was just boring and uncomfortable to drive, then got wife the Lexus nx200t back in 2016. She’s still happy with it even over 210k km problem free, still rocking the original brake rotors….
You failed to mention the awful sensor, electronics and general electrical problems in BMWs and most German cars have. There's a reason wht they depreciate a lot and their value crayers when the waaranties expire. Best route if you like Beemers is to lease and always remain under warranty
Honestly speaking I’ve found Lexus depreciates about the same as a bmw does, at least here anyway. A 2 year old bmw 5 series with 30kmiles goes from 49k to about 26-28k whereas the Lexus ES goes from about 46k to about 20-23k with the same time and mileage roughly speaking.
@@arnarmagnusson8201 Why would you go around lying about something that is so easily disproven? Are you illiterate or intentionally spreading disinformation?
In Europe, BMW is considered as one of the most reliable cars, just buy diesel. Never heard from anybody, mechanics or drivers that they ever had electrical issues. French and Italian cars have electric issues.
Although BMW has come a long way in terms of reliability.. Lexus still tops it. I have a Lexus with over 201,876 miles all I’ve done is regular maintenance and front shocks. My wife’s BMW 330 has had various seal leaks and a few electronic problems with regular maintenance. The biggest thing is she only has 82k on the odometer..
This is kind of what he says in the last 20 seconds of the video. Average failures 186 per 100,000 with BMW 184 and Lexus 133. So BMW are above average (though not 'clearly they're much better than the average' as he says) and are a long way behind Lexus. Yep, I was suckered in by the video title.
And you’ll see this change as Toyota made a disaster of the forces induction engines along with BMW going electric 😂 BMW won’t have engines in 15 years … but Toyota and the whale eating board can’t see the writing on the wall. So yea BMW will eventually win 🤭
I own a MK5 Supra which is essentially a BMW inside but I've had almost zero issues with the car despite tracking it 2-3 times a year whilst putting on 50k miles on it. I do frequent oil/coolant changes. The B58 engine is an absolute gem and it handles like a dream.
I had a Honda pilot, I recently switched up to a BMW X5 with the V8. I do allot of preventative maintenance and I feel it’s worth it. Me and my family really enjoy it.
@@Ilikepie18855 It's not so much what they're telling you to buy, but the regulations they make the car manufacturers follow, thus making over engineered junk.
Just look at the price of a low mile 2 year old BMW compared to the equivalent year/mile/price Lexus. The 50% discount on the BMW should tell you everything you need to know.
What bmw are you talking about a 7 series? You will not find a bmw with the b58 engine or higher less than 50% discount. The Lexus has the same engines in Toyotas yet they are discounted even more and their interiors melt in the sun. You have no idea what you are talking about. Stop living in the past bmw is reliable now for the past 6 years
Lexus, no questions there. For many reasons, BMW failed a lot because of cost-saving measures and tried to use the same block or components for diesel and petrol engines. While Lexus did not waste energy and resources on diesels, they perfected hybrid systems, which prolong the life of petrol engines. Another factor is customer attitude. While Germans use customers as beta testers, Toyota tests its components for an extra few thousand hours before release.. Also, you should learn to read statistics, average 186 failts, per 100, car, bmw has 184 and you say they are clearly better than average? No, infact this is very average.
@@jahudini BMW defenders are quick to deflect blame as "it's only the old cars" bullshit, lol. BMW will need 10+ years of reliable cars for their shit reputation to only start to wash away.
I've been through 8 BMWs with minimal or no problems. They have been more reliable than many other brands I have owned. I laugh at how Lexus owners push the notion that repairing a Lexus at the dealer cost a fraction of what BMW. Having taken Lexus to the dealer, they have been on par (and in some cases more expensive) than my Bimmers. The main benefit Lexus had was relatively low output NA engines and all the carryover tech and low cost parts sourced from Toyota.
I had a Lexus GS and I kept up with the schedule maintenance and the engine still had problems. I recently purchased a BMW and I love it. I loved my Lexus as well. At the end of the day if there is a car that you like and you can get it; go for it. All cars are going to need repairs so get what you like and enjoy life.
@@ECPP Mark ...the PHEV Porsche Cayenne I just tested was 120K Try driving those TWO Practical models (in choices to use Elec or Gas... Oh & my LEXUS gets 89 miles per gal and 49 miles on plug in & *REGULAR gas...& no Freak'n Turbos....The LEXUS was my bench mark...was a finer vehicle than the Porsche.
The N55 was/is very reliable and came out in 2011, so I am not sure where this dude has his dates. The only troublesome BMW engines have been the N54, the N63 and the N20.
I have a 235i with N55 engine, i like the car its so fun to drive. The charge pipe and valve cover are plastic but can be replaced for metal parts if they break. Electric waterpump will break over time but it can cool the engine after the contact is turned off thats not bad for some users. But with a mechanic pump if you drive the last miles at normal speed there is no need for electric pumps.
😂 no the new one's aren't anymore....... maybe after Toyota pays the billion+ dollars to replace all the faulty engines, we can wait 10 yrs to see if Lexus/ Toyota is
I believe in bmw . I have owned 5 bimmers e28 535i,e46 325xi, f30 320i(15), f30 320i(18), and g80 m3 (current). Buy new for bmw and service your car. My used cars were brutal but cheap. It is that 2nd,3rd owner that just neglects them. I have 5th gen 4 runner as well. I also service that regularly
I bought a 2023 Lexus RX350 with a 4 cylinder and it was horrible. Anti freeze leaks and computer issues. Traded it in for a BMW X5 and do not have any issues..
just because BMW fixed engine, drive train, water pump, chain issues etc. doesn't make it reliable. It still has lots of electrical issues. b58 drive train may be bullet proof but the cars aren't fault free elsewhere. BMWs have been a lot MORE reliable nowadays, at least no drivetrain issues, but still not comparable to lexus
Bro if the drivetrain is reliable, the car is reliable. Nobody cares about random small problems. All anyone really cares about is can I drive the car?
BMWs + 10k oil changes, never worked together never will. That’s why most issues exist with them. Valve stem seals, leaking oil, eating through piston rings, blue smoke is all due to oil. My BMW is at 200k now and doesn’t have any of the common issues in 20 years and had since the beginning.
All our Lexus are 15 000km oil change intervals, our Volvo and Benz are 20 000 km intervals. The Volvo broke like shit…. Hmm…. The engine is fine but everything around it breaks. Lexus with 210k km and zero problem.
I just bought a 2021 bmw x5 xdrive40i with 40k miles based on your advice and CR reports. I stayed away from the 8 cylinder because of your videos. I have a ram as a winter vehicle, so the beamer will only see 10k miles a year. You're helping out! Keep making these videos!
I got 2011 X5 35D best car ever! Already at 170k miles, not a single breakdown. 2 years ago purchased another car 540xi and loving this car too. Absolutely amazing cars!
They’re still more reliable than any of the Germans. Also their vehicles are built in way that it’s easier to work around the engine unlike the others that will cost big $$$ in labour alone, just to take things out of the way then put it back together. My brother in law used to call his 335Xi his babe until the problems started, he just sold it. I would take an LC500, GTR or an NSX any day over an M4 or C63.
911 turbos are reliable and NA(except 1997-2006). AMG v8s are rock solid too. Many Toyota broke down in Nurburgring during summer run. EOD if you rev up to 7k continuously it would question reliability but Porsche, Ferrari v8s ,AMG knows how to make them.
@@ady007pl how can you compare a 3.5 million dollars car with others in the 150k range. With that kind of money you could buy an LFA, GTR, NSX, GT3RS, SF90, Huracan and an R8.😂
@@jvr601 why would you get an M4 lol m340i or a standard new 3 series will be the preferred choice and as for the Mercedes probably the A Class would be better in terms of reliability
Reliability isn't magic, it's about experience and dedication- there is absolutely no way Toyota introduces an entirely new drivetrain and it's more-reliable than one that BMW et al. have been refining for a decade. The plain fact is that these drivetrains are new- Toyota/Lexus is going to have reliability problems until they do some re-engineering. I really don't understand why people think that reliability (or quality) is something inherent to Japanese people- I'm married to one, they are not special, i promise you.
Actually the 450h+ "F" Sport is much faster / quicker due to Torq of the ELEC 3 motors & w/ the Adaptive Suspension is a finer Ride and tighter in corners...Test drive ONLY the model 450h+ "F" Sport...& get RELIABILITY as this model is the only one MADE exclusively in Glorious Japan!
The sweet spot for Lexus owners is getting the maintenance bill at the shop and nodding to their fellow Lexus owner in satisfaction at checkout. No thanks. The sweet spot for me starts when I walk into my garage and it only gets better from there after I start it up knowing I have a 4-year 50k mile warranty.
It's same thing, Americans here and look down on hate Hyundai and Kia, especially lexus/toyota fanboys, but the rest of the world kia/Hyundai is appreciated and reliable brand
@@i.d.6492 Hyundai and Kia are some of the best brands in Germany and I don´t just talk about the price. But not many people here are fans of Lexus (overpriced, boring, weird UI) and Toyota (same as Lexus, but with a lower price).
@@justinking8220 FALSE! That engine has been having issues in the LS since its inception. It just now got worse with this new engine! It was not as known because Lexus sell like TWO LS these days!
I have never driven a Lexus before, but people said it’s soft, everything is soft. The chairs are soaking you in when you sit in there…and now both Toyota and Lexus are having more problems than before.
@@stevensong8832 Lexus is a brand if you want something that won't break down on you BMW is great in terms of driving dynamics and overall performance so yeah there is a difference between the two brands
If you service your BMW regularly then no major issue. I have 2, E34 and F11 with N47 .. 245k km on the clock, chain done properly and runs very well. Keeping your car fresh is vital
So buy a used Lexus. Anything they made with the 3.5 V6 and 6-speed transmissions was pretty bulletproof. The other thing is Toyota/Lexus stands behind their vehicles.
I’ve heard from someone with the naturally aspirated BMW having about 280K miles on it, manual 3, I think V6, and a friend with a 5 series manual, I think a V6 (late 90s), had about the same mileage before he bought a Tesla and sold the car. A person in my golf league has a 2005-2008ish I think V8 5 series, auto, over 180K miles. The late 90s BMW my buddy took to a lower cost BMW specialist business for maintenance and also did some things himself, the golf league guy knows cars a bit, and the other guy with the 3 knows cars to some degree. My uncle has had a fleet of BMWs building up for decades, he changes the oil on the cars and does some self maintenance. Never heard about major problems. I hear others with these cars though and a lot of complaints. Generally a Toyota or Honda is a good route if you don’t want to fuss with cars. I had a Pilot with 300K miles on it, ran exceptionally well, mostly just computer recommended oil change intervals.
Reliable cars are those that have old but proven technology. Here, a great example is Toyota/Lexus or Nissan, Mazda, Kia, Hyundai etc. You can't expect advanced cars like BMW or Audi to be just as reliable. You can't expect it from anyone anyway cars like Ferrari or Porsche etc. Some are aimed at people who pay attention to costs, and others at people who pay attention to above-average engine parameters and performance in corners. The target group of customers is different. Both groups are great but for different cleints. That's simple.
Got rid of my 2023 RX350 Luxury AWD with ~10k miles on it three weeks ago for a 2025 x50e - couldn't be happier and hated (underscore) the Lexus in so many ways. Wind noise from front end that dealer could never replicate, poor paint quality on hood, so-so triple beam headlights, interior door handles that required a lesson for any passengers that had never ridden in it, layers upon layers of menus in HMI, poor fuel economy, cheap plastics in cabin, and drove like a marshmallow on 21" rims...
My wife drove a BMW for over 15 years with hardly any problems, the most reliable car she has driven. And after all these years the car still feels solid, like new. We have driven almost all brands of Japanese cars and sure they are great in the first 3 to 5 years, then it starts loosing the feel, steering, etc. Just from our experience.
It's funny how every lexus is boring, well apart from lc500 and rcf, but not every lexus is reliable but most of bmws are exciting but only few in between are unreliable. Certain models. You sound as if every single bmw car is unreliable. The exaggeration the lexus fanboys would come to is beyond astonishing
@@ThatBMWGuy-i3g I used to own a BMW. It drove very nice, but maintenance was shit. I don't hate them, I just don't trust their cars. I could probably get one in the future, but not likely.
@@JunYamog : Toyotas Hybrid is so good, that BMW begged to get the obsolete generation hybrid engine from Toyota to put into their “newest” generations- yeah that’s true!
It's so funny, in a time when we are at peak power, gas mileage and reliability for NA motors, we are now forced to go to smaller boosted engines. History will not forgive us for this. People always complain about BMW being less reliable but you gotta understand, their target customer is not the person who keeps a car for 5-10 years, its a person who switches car every 2-3.
But by definition that makes it a bad car. The main boast of RR in the 1970s was that 50pct of all the cars they ever produced were still on the road. I love the feel and identity of BMW. But my last one died at just 83k miles. And they couldn;'t even say exactly WHAT was wrong with it. They went from good engineers to good businessmen. Selling overpriced bs designed to fall apart and need lots of repairs. Real shame. Japanese are far far better cars but don;t stir the soul in the way some German, British, Italian cars do... for me.
@@MR3DDev No I agree with you, that is their business plan. Real shame tho because it effectively relegates them to "fashion" cars as the French became for a long time. I dont mind spending money but I want a car that is symbolic of the era and can become almost like an heirloom. Thats what all the old great cars were.
@@RS-xx9ve Sadly the identity is that of DUMB people who own these TEMPORARILY is that the owner own nothing but rather rents becaus they made a bad decision on a car NOT Reliable and has No / bad resale value!
I absolutely disagree with you. Many bmw enthusiasts keep their cars for a long time, do you think people got money to be switching cars on a left and right 🤡
I have a 2006 BMW 330Xiwith 79k miles. Great car, great straight six N52 engine, all wheel drive, runs like a bandit. Love it! This is terrific, no turbos, no intercoolers, just 265 natyrally asperated horses. This is the type engine that made BMW…enough said!
Please do! Yes I would like to hear more about the long term results of the oil consumption concerns. The engine in general is pretty stout. Hope your week is going well too.
I had the 2002 E39 540i that I drove till it hit 308k miles then moved on to the E60, a 2010 535i that I kept till 316k. Then I bought a 2017 435i and I drove that for 300k before moving on to a 2020 M550i. In all of these cars, I didn’t have any major problems other than window regulators on the E39, the water pump on the E60 and the turbocharger actuator on my 440i. The part was like $300.
BMW has vastly improved reliability. Maybe even more importantly is that they have better rust protection than most. They may cost more to maintain but nothing is more expensive than fixing rust.
The B58 is not only reliable but an amazing engine that outperforms lexus in everyway. Lexus interior's are outdated and their performance is at the bottom of the class.
The Germans know luxury. Lexus and Toyota are nice and yes reliable but their interiors do look outdated. Reliable = basic engineering and basic interiors 🤷♂️. In my Country Toyota and Lexus vehicles are ridiculously priced. Yes they are reliable but Im almost sure The basic tech and cheap materials used in their productions is not the cause the market value in my Country. They are reliable but still cheaply made🤷♂️
@DAMCARTER1 lexus is luxury. Alot higher quality than bmw. Bmw interiors are a joke. Horrible materials and they squeak so much. I've been in hundreds by now since I'm a bmw technician. I've been in practically every model. Compared to audi and mercedes it's incomparable. And audi is luxury and they are reliable. Definitely not cheap but they are truly reliable. Mercedes I don't really know but my friends with mercs had no problems with them. Germans know bmw is a bad car brand. They have many sayings and make fun of it. Like I heard someone call them bavarian manure wagon. Bmws are just so bad they don't even have a single good nurburgring lap time. The fastest bmw m4 csl is 7:19 whilst for the same price you can get a gt3 or r8 which both have 6:53. Mercedes achieved crazy good times too. So did audi. Bmw is left at 7 minutes and 19 seconds. I would like bmws if it weren't for their horrible utter shit delusional fanbase.
@@DudeThedudeskyDude no offense but lexus interiors look like s*, hell I'll go even further, they look like they have been designed by a blind person. There's zero elegance and flow of lines. Compare tgat to something German especially audi/porsche interiors. 😅
Interesting perspective, and all true. We'll see how the Toyota/Lexus turbo engines hold up. The Tundra issue wasn't reliability, it was manufacturing. As for BMW, their biggest problem now is still not figuring out correct location for the gas fill. Germany is a LHD country. Gas fill should be on the left. I hate having to walk around the car every time... not my idea of 'luxury'.
When it comes to BMWs, 1999 to 2006 referred to as the E46 and E39 are the best if maintained. They exceed the reliability of my LEXUS. None of my three BMWs and one of them has 268,000 miles on it. This summer I took it on a 4,000 milf road trip without a second thought. No loss of oil or coolant or anything.
Family had a 2001 bmw 320d new back then, by 2006 when the warranty expired suddenly half the car started breaking, engine, turbo, starter, center locking, AC, transmission. None stop repair. The most unreliable bmw we ever had. We had X3 and 5 series after, but none of them were as bad as the 2001 model
Plenty of issues with the E46 platform, especially if you go up to the M3. Oil pressure and trans issues possible in all, subframe issues with the M3 that are difficult to detect with any standard PPI. Really need to know what you're getting into buying one; may go without a hitch, may cost you up to half of what you paid for the car in repairs by the time you're done, all in how your luck comes out.
I had a BMW 3 series and it was genuinely one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever owned. The car didn't even have 50k miles on it and something was constantly breaking down. I then bought a Lexus IS250 put over 150k miles on it and it NEVER had one issue. It was so good i bought another Lexus and honestly I don't think I will own anything but a Lexus again
@olympbarca3313 I don't hate bmw as a brand. I hate their delusional fanboys. Yeah they have shit quality interiors compared to merc and audi and porsche.
@user-wi4ci2jo4u yeah sure look the new mers with that screen on the middle .Sorry that's not good interior. Bmw make much better interiors than before. So please stop. I see you hate bmw on every comment when someone said good thing for bmw. I hate that kind of people
You're repeating a common false narrative that greater fuel efficiency is a product of government regulations and not a market pressure from shrinking pocket books and wallets at the pump. The 2020 OPEC deal that the former President negotiated cemented lower oil production at a time when motorists needed greater supply. The Saudis, Russians ane Texas oil companies made staggering sums on the backs of motorists. Tesla prices exploded as did demand for high mpg cars. The 2020 OPEC deal expired in the first quarter of 2022 and oil production finally went up and gas prices slowly came down but inflation remained sticky as corporations rarely lower prices when unemployment remains below 4% for nearly 30 consecutive months.
Newer BMWs are reliable for what they are. They've come a long way and are a genuine solid choice if you have the funds to stay on top of the maintenance... But they can't match Lexus on reliability.
........I always find it Highly interesting that beemer supporters always have the EXCUSE built in " BMWs are reliable for what they are " and yes they are known as BMW..Bring More Wallet's i.e. #1 for initial cost #2 Huge Repair / Sevice costs HUGE LOSS in DEPRECIATION...Wake up!
When you quote Consumer Reports as a reliable source, I lose all interest. They're a pay to play just like JD "awards" you keep hearing about on car advertising. It's all bull.
Lexus fanboys saying oh lexus is more reliable because I have a lexus with x amount of miles, not realizing he's talking about new lexus not the old shit yall got that still runs
I recently read a Consumer Reports magazine issue that said BMW was number one in customer satisfaction and Jeep was the worst, in Customer /satisfaction? WTF?
Perhaps the close cooperation between Toyota and BMW gives the Bavarians a greater advantage. They are also working together on completely new technology for a new and completely different generation of engines (it suppouse to be an alternative to hydrogene and electrics, which was announced not so long ago).
You can thank unrealistic government emissions targets for forcing Lexus to go to smaller turbocharged engines. I understand that Lexus has taken some hits recently but I’m sure that they’ll get it right soon. Furthermore the problem with BMW’s is that their parts are so expensive as is their service. I currently own two Lexus vehicles and they’re both fantastic, I would recommend buying a used Lexus car with the older engines and keep it for a number of years then Lexus will have it right.
All these comments about how reliable their Lexus is. The new Lexus are not as reliable and BMW are becoming more reliable. Get with the times people. Toyota isn't what they use to be
Can't go wrong with hybrid lexus. The made in Japan one. German cars are filled with overcomplicated electronics, its obvious that more parts to break = more problems. That's how it is. New bmw 2.0 engines tend to fall apart after 90k miles, do you imagine a big lexus v6/v8 doing that?
People have been saying this every year though… “Toyota isn’t as reliable as it used to be” . Literally a decade ago, yet they still create reliable vehicles…
Somewhere in the middle. Consumer Reports loves them both for short term. Reading recent 10 year ownership reports and Lexus/Toyota was still first by a mile but BMW has worked it's way ahead of every single brand made outside of Japan. Take every source with a grain of salt but the report was Lexus/Toyota followed distantly by Acura/Honda followed distantly by Mazda and BMW.
Just traded my 22 RX 350 for a new 24 RX 350. I absolutely love it. It was time for the update. Actually more spirited driving with the higher end torque. I’ll bet on Lexus as much I love the X5
............................... Any added Tech ...is obviously an over kill and Keep DOG BMW...( B ring M ore W allet's ) RELIABILITY is * LUXUARY!!!!!!!
lol I got 2019 bmw 530i. weekly problem is guaranteed with this vehicle with all the maintenance. Do not drive this thing without warranty. today I have a blown evaporator and got quoted 6200 from the dealder. the car's worth 23k. Is it worth to fix it?
This video is missinformation central.. 🤦♂️.. the giant recall Toyota did on their new v6 is NOT because they "unreliable" but because the NC plant they were produced screwed it up and built it with defects. (All affected engines were replaced for free!) This same engine built in Japan has 0 problems. As for other new engines, as you said: "remains to be seen" - which means there are NO major issues as of right now. So, what exactly are you complaining about then? 🤷♂️
If what you’re saying is true, then why they are also recalling Lexus lx 600 which should be built in Japan? Things are not adding up I’m not sure if this is plant specific or it’s just the new engine that needed better production.
I always sell my BMWs when they reach about 75-80k miles and have never experienced any mechanical problems up to the time I’m ready to trade. Ive always loved the appearance, style, and performance of BMW over Lexus. I lost all interest in considering Lexus when they were redesigned with that hideous looking spindle grill. I’m in the market for a new 2025 but the new gen x3 and X5 have too many design flaws that I can’t overlook. What was the design team thinking??
It's called a brand new platform. The b58 and s58 are bulletproof engines from bmw. They are so good toyato and range rover bought them for their cars.
Family currently still have 3x Lexus, RX350 and two NX200t. 8 years old and basically zero problems. Over 100k miles and one with 130k miles, we only do basic maintenance…. Even alternators and brake disc rotors are still factory. Had 4x bmw before this…. X3, 3 series, 5 series…. Lexus hands down more luxurious and reliable. Reason for changing bmw? They keep breaking down none stop.
Many Lexus owner who switch to bmw is due to how dull Lexus are to drive. If reliability is the only benchmark Germans have no chance of sale, but they outsell Lexus globally. Most people who own these cars don’t own them 10 plus years. They want to feel that thrill of performance and Germans know that, those are choices they have made. 3 series has lost some of its thrill because they went more close to nice ride and reliability got CR badge but lost enthusiasts as well. My buddy has 07 3 series close to 200k miles water pump replaced after 100k miles basis maintenance. I owned 3 series till 100k miles with no issues. Never any issues with many leased bmws and Audis. When you push for performance there are parts need to be replaced like in race cars you drive like golf cart nothing needs to replaced more often.
.....Sad you Never mention how Sooooo very many who get a Repair burdened and LOSS configured in depreciation owners of beemers SWITCH BACK to LEXUS or simply remain dumb by Leasing and dumping beemers every 2 years.just like cedes owners.
Majority of luxury cars are leased very few people buy them new, there is huge market of used buyers also, it is choice there is no dumbness on both choices, some see value buying new some old whatever based on their financial condition and other priorities in life. If one choose a car to push it to limits then it comes with constant repairs and more maintenance it is conscious choice by car maker and buyer both, Lexus is great value for many but not others.
BMW can be reliable you just have to know which model and year you're dealing with I have a 09 328i which was one of BMW best years it had the N52 Engine Naturally aspirated inline 6 which was bulletproof I think what hurt a lot of car manufacturers with reliability is when they started adding turbos to everything which makes more moving parts and can make engines run hotter so you had a uptick of cars just breaking down or having something wrong with it all the time case in point I had a VW 08 Passat with a 2.0 turbo and those cars had a ton of problems leading to engine failure.
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The only thing that doesn't break on a BMW is the engine light !
That is because there is No turbo on the light...However they should implement as they need More Speed to get you to the Service Dept....we akll know that Porsche beemers and cedes all make their money in their SERVICE dept!
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so true, soooooooooooooooo true - shitty BMW, junk !
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I have 2 BMW’s and 1 Lexus. Lexus is definitely way more reliable. My BMWs keeps me broke with the repairs. Will never buy a BMW again.
I believe you 100%
which versions are your bmw's
But yet you have 2 of them and only 1 Lexus ?
How old are they
What models you have?
Thank me later... Answer: 9:46
No thanks, I enjoyed the video before that. Are you saying the rest isn't worth watching?
Relax bro its not that deep. I watched the whole thing and realized if you are just going to look at the CR and decide the why make a video in the first place. We all know the b58 is reliable and new lexus are questionable. Yet based on the CR Lexus is more reliable still.
Exactly @@uptoolayte1
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THANK YOU!! 😊
The comments show people did not listen to the video:
- He did not say BMWs are more reliable than Lexus. Only that Lexus is now having issues because they are forced to use smaller, turbo charged engines. BMW went through this process and have better engines and engine support systems now.
- Yes, there are still recalls on BMWs. Many of the recalls people are pointing to are from BMWs from the same years and engines that are described as being very unreliable in the video. Saying the a water pump recall on a N55 platform disproves this video when he literally points out how bad the plastic water pumps on BMWs were shows you were too busy writing comments to listen.
- He in no way is telling you to buy a BMW over a Lexus. If you still want a Lexus, by all means get one. He is just pointing out that you should be cautious about the Lexus you are purchasing and do your homework. Just like you should be very cautious before buying a used BMW. Don't assume that just because Lexus has great reliability means these new turbo charged engines will be without any issues.
He says that 'in 2024 Lexus reliability and BMW reliability are much closer' but the figures show you are more than 38% more likely to have a failure with a BMW than with a Lexus
He says of BMW 'clearly they're much better than the average' quoting figures which indicate they are actually only 1% better. For reference Lexus are 28.5% better than average.
Ding ding ding! Excellent comment 😊
@@cain1448yup. If its the 2.5 hybrid u shud be fine its been around forever
I feel your pain 😂
Same with Honda
In 2018 my wife went to dealer to purchase a certified 2016 BMW X3 and after few hours she decided to buy 2015 Lexus NX200t and she is happy with her Lexus. No problems at all!
That’s great they are predictably reliable especially in the slightly older units
Cheers
Previously she had a 1999 Lexus ES300 and the miles she put on it was more than 300,000 and finally she gave away that car in 2014.
Haha, same, had a bmw x3 and was just boring and uncomfortable to drive, then got wife the Lexus nx200t back in 2016. She’s still happy with it even over 210k km problem free, still rocking the original brake rotors….
@@Ilikepie18855😂😂😂
You failed to mention the awful sensor, electronics and general electrical problems in BMWs and most German cars have. There's a reason wht they depreciate a lot and their value crayers when the waaranties expire. Best route if you like Beemers is to lease and always remain under warranty
I had 550i for 3 years and now 750Li after 3 years.....nothing happened....🤷🏼♂️
Honestly speaking I’ve found Lexus depreciates about the same as a bmw does, at least here anyway. A 2 year old bmw 5 series with 30kmiles goes from 49k to about 26-28k whereas the Lexus ES goes from about 46k to about 20-23k with the same time and mileage roughly speaking.
@@arnarmagnusson8201 Why would you go around lying about something that is so easily disproven? Are you illiterate or intentionally spreading disinformation?
In Europe, BMW is considered as one of the most reliable cars, just buy diesel. Never heard from anybody, mechanics or drivers that they ever had electrical issues. French and Italian cars have electric issues.
@@GodricThe
Still shit compared to Lexus.
there is a very good reason lexus vehicles hold their value. there is also good reason audi and bmw do not.
Speaking for the latest turbocharged models only, the "good reason" is the average consumer doesn't know a shit about them.
@@dannyz955 The same turbo engines that fall apart after 80k miles (bmw 2.0)?
@@dannyz955I have a 200t 2016 with 130k miles with no issues….
False
If you consider Audi and BMW unreliable, in which category would you put US, Korean and UK cars?
Although BMW has come a long way in terms of reliability.. Lexus still tops it. I have a Lexus with over 201,876 miles all I’ve done is regular maintenance and front shocks. My wife’s BMW 330 has had various seal leaks and a few electronic problems with regular maintenance. The biggest thing is she only has 82k on the odometer..
Lexus is ugly looking cars
This is kind of what he says in the last 20 seconds of the video. Average failures 186 per 100,000 with BMW 184 and Lexus 133. So BMW are above average (though not 'clearly they're much better than the average' as he says) and are a long way behind Lexus. Yep, I was suckered in by the video title.
And you’ll see this change as Toyota made a disaster of the forces induction engines along with BMW going electric 😂
BMW won’t have engines in 15 years … but Toyota and the whale eating board can’t see the writing on the wall.
So yea BMW will eventually win 🤭
He ain't talking about old lexus and old bmw you boomer
@@ssing7113 go to bed…… have a good dream😂
I own a MK5 Supra which is essentially a BMW inside but I've had almost zero issues with the car despite tracking it 2-3 times a year whilst putting on 50k miles on it. I do frequent oil/coolant changes. The B58 engine is an absolute gem and it handles like a dream.
I had a Honda pilot, I recently switched up to a BMW X5 with the V8. I do allot of preventative maintenance and I feel it’s worth it. Me and my family really enjoy it.
Finally someone is willing to talk about this, instead of stereotyping
I mean it isn’t really hard to understand and simply google why owning a bmw is such a horrible idea
The issue is governments telling people what they should buy rather than let the customer decide.
"Amen" to this remark.
What is the government telling you to buy?
@@Ilikepie18855 It's not so much what they're telling you to buy, but the regulations they make the car manufacturers follow, thus making over engineered junk.
Just look at the price of a low mile 2 year old BMW compared to the equivalent year/mile/price Lexus.
The 50% discount on the BMW should tell you everything you need to know.
What are u talking about. My bmw m4 comp xdrive is exactly the same price used as when I bought it. Maybe lost 5k at most.
@@G82Watts 🧢
50%? lol
That’s not a good argument. Lexus depreciates more than Toyota. Yet it’s solid
What bmw are you talking about a 7 series? You will not find a bmw with the b58 engine or higher less than 50% discount. The Lexus has the same engines in Toyotas yet they are discounted even more and their interiors melt in the sun. You have no idea what you are talking about. Stop living in the past bmw is reliable now for the past 6 years
Lexus, no questions there. For many reasons, BMW failed a lot because of cost-saving measures and tried to use the same block or components for diesel and petrol engines. While Lexus did not waste energy and resources on diesels, they perfected hybrid systems, which prolong the life of petrol engines. Another factor is customer attitude. While Germans use customers as beta testers, Toyota tests its components for an extra few thousand hours before release..
Also, you should learn to read statistics, average 186 failts, per 100, car, bmw has 184 and you say they are clearly better than average? No, infact this is very average.
Cheers
BMW recalls over 720,000 cars due to fire risk from water pump failure. (WSPA) - BMW issued a recall for more than 720,000 cars last week.
They were NOT the GX Generation. The recalls affected the 2012-2017 models. Its there online for you to search. We are referring to the GX generation.
no
Also BMW currently has a stop sale on the X5,X7 and others due to brake issues, brand new cars that don't work well.
lol I love recalls. Free new parts! My BMW is schedule for a recall in two weeks.
@@jahudini BMW defenders are quick to deflect blame as "it's only the old cars" bullshit, lol. BMW will need 10+ years of reliable cars for their shit reputation to only start to wash away.
BMW has pioneered the oil 🛢 BURNING technology 😂🤣😅
Haha nice
@@blackmorpheus4331 does all German cars high on oil
This is the n63b44
😂😂😂
Audi tfsi : Hold my beer
Anything with a manual is more fun.
I really love that white Lexus RX350, VERY SHARP, BEAUTIFUL VEHICLE AND RELIABLE
Lexis has always been and will allways be the most reliable car ever..
I have 2 Lexus for 5 years now and I have no problem and issues when it comes to engine. Truly reliable car no headache
I've been through 8 BMWs with minimal or no problems. They have been more reliable than many other brands I have owned. I laugh at how Lexus owners push the notion that repairing a Lexus at the dealer cost a fraction of what BMW. Having taken Lexus to the dealer, they have been on par (and in some cases more expensive) than my Bimmers. The main benefit Lexus had was relatively low output NA engines and all the carryover tech and low cost parts sourced from Toyota.
Oh yeah, those BMW's had such little problems that you went through EIGHT OF THEM. LOLOL
I had a Lexus GS and I kept up with the schedule maintenance and the engine still had problems. I recently purchased a BMW and I love it. I loved my Lexus as well. At the end of the day if there is a car that you like and you can get it; go for it. All cars are going to need repairs so get what you like and enjoy life.
Good to know!
I had a Lexus GS (2014), did not really keep up with the schedule maintenance and never had any problems, sold the car with over 120k miles.
😂 the usual zombies they're so bamboozle BMW 😂 lol Germany car's so called premium are a disaster of reliability.
Agree!!
I love bmws!!! But Lexus is still king of reliablity !!!
NX450h+ F Sport has everything all in one. Fuel efficient, fast, reliable, not too small or too big
Hey Mark what do you think?
Thats a niceunit indeed
I totally agree with you. I drove one and was considering buying one but price was a bit steep.
@@ECPP Mark ...the PHEV Porsche Cayenne I just tested was 120K Try driving those TWO Practical models (in choices to use Elec or Gas... Oh & my LEXUS gets 89 miles per gal and 49 miles on plug in & *REGULAR gas...& no Freak'n Turbos....The LEXUS was my bench mark...was a finer vehicle than the Porsche.
you just can't compare lexus to bmw. lexus is for old, calm people that don't care about how the car feels to drive.
The N55 was/is very reliable and came out in 2011, so I am not sure where this dude has his dates. The only troublesome BMW engines have been the N54, the N63 and the N20.
I have a 235i with N55 engine, i like the car its so fun to drive.
The charge pipe and valve cover are plastic but can be replaced for metal parts if they break.
Electric waterpump will break over time but it can cool the engine after the contact is turned off thats not bad for some users.
But with a mechanic pump if you drive the last miles at normal speed there is no need for electric pumps.
I have a 2019 Honda accord 2.0 and I just found out the 18-22 accords are having head gasket issues
Buy any BMW from the current 8th Generation and the 2016 Pre LCI versions ❤ Reliability holds well on these specific models
I still say lexus is one brand I know is reliable😊😅😂
New generation of Lexus trash but the old generation fine.
😂 no the new one's aren't anymore....... maybe after Toyota pays the billion+ dollars to replace all the faulty engines, we can wait 10 yrs to see if Lexus/ Toyota is
@@Rezvan7171thats waht people tell long time ago and provem wrong
@@Rezvan7171 Buy only japanese made lexus. Vin starting with J. Lexus from Canada tend to have more problems.
I believe in bmw . I have owned 5 bimmers e28 535i,e46 325xi, f30 320i(15), f30 320i(18), and g80 m3 (current). Buy new for bmw and service your car. My used cars were brutal but cheap. It is that 2nd,3rd owner that just neglects them. I have 5th gen 4 runner as well. I also service that regularly
I bought a 2023 Lexus RX350 with a 4 cylinder and it was horrible. Anti freeze leaks and computer issues. Traded it in for a BMW X5 and do not have any issues..
Sounds like a bummer, thanks for sharing your experience.
just because BMW fixed engine, drive train, water pump, chain issues etc. doesn't make it reliable. It still has lots of electrical issues. b58 drive train may be bullet proof but the cars aren't fault free elsewhere.
BMWs have been a lot MORE reliable nowadays, at least no drivetrain issues, but still not comparable to lexus
how can we say that new bmws are reliable, if theyre still new? lets wait 5-10 years :)
Do you have any new BMWs?
Bro if the drivetrain is reliable, the car is reliable. Nobody cares about random small problems.
All anyone really cares about is can I drive the car?
I'll get an older Lexus or Toyota or Honda or Acura over any BMW
Your hint was older. Not new
And that’s why I own a 200 Land Cruiser
Owned 4 BMWs and now a 25 year old Lexus with 220k miles, I trust the Lexus a lot more than my Bimmers, though my 1990 525i was just as reliable.
id get best of both worlds and go for 1980s mercedes
I have a 22 year old Lexus and still going strong without any problems; just fluid changes.
@@toyouall great car 👍👌✨️
BMWs + 10k oil changes, never worked together never will. That’s why most issues exist with them. Valve stem seals, leaking oil, eating through piston rings, blue smoke is all due to oil. My BMW is at 200k now and doesn’t have any of the common issues in 20 years and had since the beginning.
All our Lexus are 15 000km oil change intervals, our Volvo and Benz are 20 000 km intervals. The Volvo broke like shit…. Hmm…. The engine is fine but everything around it breaks. Lexus with 210k km and zero problem.
I just bought a 2021 bmw x5 xdrive40i with 40k miles based on your advice and CR reports. I stayed away from the 8 cylinder because of your videos. I have a ram as a winter vehicle, so the beamer will only see 10k miles a year. You're helping out! Keep making these videos!
Congrats that’s a wonderful vehicle. Thanks for watching.
And in 2 years you'll know why you shouldn't take advice from literal salesmen on youtube.
My 2019 BMW 330i xdrive has 61k miles on it with a bm3 and downpipe tune, still running strong, I'm thinking keep driving it until it pass 100k miles.
most bmws start to break down at 80k miles. good luck!
@@ady007pl I will let you know if it break.
I got 2011 X5 35D best car ever! Already at 170k miles, not a single breakdown. 2 years ago purchased another car 540xi and loving this car too. Absolutely amazing cars!
Yes those are a couple of their best drivetrains too
They’re still more reliable than any of the Germans. Also their vehicles are built in way that it’s easier to work around the engine unlike the others that will cost big $$$ in labour alone, just to take things out of the way then put it back together. My brother in law used to call his 335Xi his babe until the problems started, he just sold it. I would take an LC500, GTR or an NSX any day over an M4 or C63.
911 turbos are reliable and NA(except 1997-2006). AMG v8s are rock solid too. Many Toyota broke down in Nurburgring during summer run. EOD if you rev up to 7k continuously it would question reliability but Porsche, Ferrari v8s ,AMG knows how to make them.
id take chiron over lc500
@@ady007pl how can you compare a 3.5 million dollars car with others in the 150k range. With that kind of money you could buy an LFA, GTR, NSX, GT3RS, SF90, Huracan and an R8.😂
@@jvr601 why would you get an M4 lol m340i or a standard new 3 series will be the preferred choice and as for the Mercedes probably the A Class would be better in terms of reliability
Reliability isn't magic, it's about experience and dedication- there is absolutely no way Toyota introduces an entirely new drivetrain and it's more-reliable than one that BMW et al. have been refining for a decade.
The plain fact is that these drivetrains are new- Toyota/Lexus is going to have reliability problems until they do some re-engineering.
I really don't understand why people think that reliability (or quality) is something inherent to Japanese people- I'm married to one, they are not special, i promise you.
With the b58 reliability is hard to find a Lexus that gives you great comfort, acceleration, and fun that driving a bmw gives you...
Yes especially now Lexus phasing out the 3.5 V6 and dropping in the 2.4L turbo 4
Actually the 450h+ "F" Sport is much faster / quicker due to Torq of the ELEC 3 motors & w/ the Adaptive Suspension is a finer Ride and tighter in corners...Test drive ONLY the model 450h+ "F" Sport...& get RELIABILITY as this model is the only one MADE exclusively in Glorious Japan!
Lc500
@@TrvrSand Also Naturally Aspirated...Much nicer quality interior than any beemer Sounds Great and at 100K you will Never beat it!
@@donaldbanner2185 Bullshit
The sweet spot for Lexus owners is getting the maintenance bill at the shop and nodding to their fellow Lexus owner in satisfaction at checkout. No thanks. The sweet spot for me starts when I walk into my garage and it only gets better from there after I start it up knowing I have a 4-year 50k mile warranty.
Ehh 4 year 50k? Doesnt seem worth it to me
Weird, in Germany BMW is one of the most reliable brands. What´s wrong with you?
Well in America there's different things
It's same thing, Americans here and look down on hate Hyundai and Kia, especially lexus/toyota fanboys, but the rest of the world kia/Hyundai is appreciated and reliable brand
@@i.d.6492 Hyundai and Kia are some of the best brands in Germany and I don´t just talk about the price. But not many people here are fans of Lexus (overpriced, boring, weird UI) and Toyota (same as Lexus, but with a lower price).
key phrase: in Germany. everywhere else in the world bmw's are considered mid
@@jimbeam4736 agreed
BMW nr1 … bulletproof car.. I have my 2017 X5 diesel for 2 years around (did around 40k in 2 years) .not a single issue absolutely beast ❤
Awesome. Which engine?
@@olympbarca3313 it’s BMW N57 Turbo diesel 3.0 , one of the best diesel engines ever made.
Bulletproof my ass
We've got a 2018 5 series, been reliable as hell.
People seem to forget the LS has been using that V6 twin turbo since 2018 with no issues so i don't know where this is coming from
bmw paid some loot
@@justinking8220 FALSE! That engine has been having issues in the LS since its inception. It just now got worse with this new engine! It was not as known because Lexus sell like TWO LS these days!
Please add that magical time of 2017 for the B58 motor was also BMW’s partnership with Toyota, coincidence?
Ford also got rid of their 4.6 V8 and they made a big mistake, that was a bullet proof engine
Me watching this video while I still have my N52 3 series! Definitely wouldn’t mind upgrading to that B48/58 one day!
N52 engine is underrated bmw engine its bulletproof … because it doesn’t have turbos
Same, but I have a 128i M sport. Funnest car ever
I have never driven a Lexus before, but people said it’s soft, everything is soft. The chairs are soaking you in when you sit in there…and now both Toyota and Lexus are having more problems than before.
@@stevensong8832 Lexus is a brand if you want something that won't break down on you BMW is great in terms of driving dynamics and overall performance so yeah there is a difference between the two brands
Volvo seats are better, the best in the business. Not too soft but comforting on a long trip. Like a Mattress turned into automotive chairs.
@@hastensavoir7782Volvos are trash
If you service your BMW regularly then no major issue. I have 2, E34 and F11 with N47 .. 245k km on the clock, chain done properly and runs very well. Keeping your car fresh is vital
Nice. Maintenance does help a lot
I’d still buy a Lexus, no way in the world l’ll buy a BMW.
Big Money Waist😂😂😂😂
@@henkbouman2277 Broke My Wallet. 🤪
528i from 2011, with the NA 3lt 6 cylinder engine, was very reliable.
So buy a used Lexus. Anything they made with the 3.5 V6 and 6-speed transmissions was pretty bulletproof. The other thing is Toyota/Lexus stands behind their vehicles.
That was one of their best engines
I’ve heard from someone with the naturally aspirated BMW having about 280K miles on it, manual 3, I think V6, and a friend with a 5 series manual, I think a V6 (late 90s), had about the same mileage before he bought a Tesla and sold the car. A person in my golf league has a 2005-2008ish I think V8 5 series, auto, over 180K miles. The late 90s BMW my buddy took to a lower cost BMW specialist business for maintenance and also did some things himself, the golf league guy knows cars a bit, and the other guy with the 3 knows cars to some degree. My uncle has had a fleet of BMWs building up for decades, he changes the oil on the cars and does some self maintenance. Never heard about major problems. I hear others with these cars though and a lot of complaints. Generally a Toyota or Honda is a good route if you don’t want to fuss with cars. I had a Pilot with 300K miles on it, ran exceptionally well, mostly just computer recommended oil change intervals.
Reliable cars are those that have old but proven technology. Here, a great example is Toyota/Lexus or Nissan, Mazda, Kia, Hyundai etc. You can't expect advanced cars like BMW or Audi to be just as reliable. You can't expect it from anyone anyway cars like Ferrari or Porsche etc. Some are aimed at people who pay attention to costs, and others at people who pay attention to above-average engine parameters and performance in corners. The target group of customers is different. Both groups are great but for different cleints. That's simple.
Got rid of my 2023 RX350 Luxury AWD with ~10k miles on it three weeks ago for a 2025 x50e - couldn't be happier and hated (underscore) the Lexus in so many ways. Wind noise from front end that dealer could never replicate, poor paint quality on hood, so-so triple beam headlights, interior door handles that required a lesson for any passengers that had never ridden in it, layers upon layers of menus in HMI, poor fuel economy, cheap plastics in cabin, and drove like a marshmallow on 21" rims...
was it made in Canada or Japan? vin starting with J?
@@ady007pl Made in Canada - all the North America market RX models, including the hybrid versions, are made in Ontario.
My wife drove a BMW for over 15 years with hardly any problems, the most reliable car she has driven. And after all these years the car still feels solid, like new. We have driven almost all brands of Japanese cars and sure they are great in the first 3 to 5 years, then it starts loosing the feel, steering, etc. Just from our experience.
"Hardly" any problems? Why don't you go ahead and list them all so we can laugh at your delusional confirmation bias.
@@evrythingis1 It was not up for debate. I was just telling my experience. That;s it. Don't want to talk about this any more.
Boring but reliable. Exciting but costly. You do you.
It's funny how every lexus is boring, well apart from lc500 and rcf, but not every lexus is reliable but most of bmws are exciting but only few in between are unreliable. Certain models. You sound as if every single bmw car is unreliable. The exaggeration the lexus fanboys would come to is beyond astonishing
@@i.d.6492 Name me one unreliable Lexus model, and name me one single reliable BMW model.
@@evrythingis1 bmw m340i reliable. lexus gx unreliable.
I hope those of you who would rather push a BMW than drive a Lexus are physically prepared for that very real possibility.
Been driving BMW for just about a year and never got stranded. What you talking about lol.
@@ThatBMWGuy-i3g Give it a couple more thousand miles, you'll see what everyone is talking about, 😂
@@old_dan What do you mean EVERYONE BMW hater?
@@ThatBMWGuy-i3g I used to own a BMW. It drove very nice, but maintenance was shit. I don't hate them, I just don't trust their cars. I could probably get one in the future, but not likely.
BMW engines is so good Toyota put in a B58 in the Supra 😂
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What Supra? You mean the BMW with a Toyota badge? I previous MK4 owner here, will never ever buy a MK5 Supra, I got the IS500 instead
They are plastic shit. Toyota only took it because they're lazy cunts and wanted an inline 6
Along with Land Rover using the engines in Range Rover now
@@JunYamog : Toyotas Hybrid is so good, that BMW begged to get the obsolete generation hybrid engine from Toyota to put into their “newest” generations- yeah that’s true!
It's so funny, in a time when we are at peak power, gas mileage and reliability for NA motors, we are now forced to go to smaller boosted engines. History will not forgive us for this.
People always complain about BMW being less reliable but you gotta understand, their target customer is not the person who keeps a car for 5-10 years, its a person who switches car every 2-3.
But by definition that makes it a bad car. The main boast of RR in the 1970s was that 50pct of all the cars they ever produced were still on the road.
I love the feel and identity of BMW. But my last one died at just 83k miles. And they couldn;'t even say exactly WHAT was wrong with it. They went from good engineers to good businessmen. Selling overpriced bs designed to fall apart and need lots of repairs. Real shame. Japanese are far far better cars but don;t stir the soul in the way some German, British, Italian cars do... for me.
@@RS-xx9ve I am not saying its a good car but you gotta understand who is their target demo.
@@MR3DDev No I agree with you, that is their business plan. Real shame tho because it effectively relegates them to "fashion" cars as the French became for a long time. I dont mind spending money but I want a car that is symbolic of the era and can become almost like an heirloom. Thats what all the old great cars were.
@@RS-xx9ve Sadly the identity is that of DUMB people who own these TEMPORARILY is that the owner own nothing but rather rents becaus they made a bad decision on a car NOT Reliable and has No / bad resale value!
I absolutely disagree with you. Many bmw enthusiasts keep their cars for a long time, do you think people got money to be switching cars on a left and right 🤡
I have a 2006 BMW 330Xiwith 79k miles. Great car, great straight six N52 engine, all wheel drive, runs like a bandit. Love it! This is terrific, no turbos, no intercoolers, just 265 natyrally asperated horses. This is the type engine that made BMW…enough said!
Great video, as always!
Will keep u updated on the situation with my f36n 430i.
Please do! Yes I would like to hear more about the long term results of the oil consumption concerns. The engine in general is pretty stout. Hope your week is going well too.
I had the 2002 E39 540i that I drove till it hit 308k miles then moved on to the E60, a 2010 535i that I kept till 316k. Then I bought a 2017 435i and I drove that for 300k before moving on to a 2020 M550i. In all of these cars, I didn’t have any major problems other than window regulators on the E39, the water pump on the E60 and the turbocharger actuator on my 440i. The part was like $300.
Hang on to that Toyota 4.7L NA V8!
Yes that is a true workhorse
My 20 Year Old 4.7 L NA V8 is the best and most reliable car I have ever owned in over 60 Cars. So well built !
Our 2004 Sequoia has been flawless since new. 4.7 runs like a sewing machine.
@@abidnessman wait for the timing belt to go down rip off
BMW has vastly improved reliability. Maybe even more importantly is that they have better rust protection than most. They may cost more to maintain but nothing is more expensive than fixing rust.
The B58 is not only reliable but an amazing engine that outperforms lexus in everyway. Lexus interior's are outdated and their performance is at the bottom of the class.
That’s a fair statement and the older Lexus. Vehicles were durable but there is a shift right now
Bmw fanboy alert
The Germans know luxury. Lexus and Toyota are nice and yes reliable but their interiors do look outdated. Reliable = basic engineering and basic interiors 🤷♂️.
In my Country Toyota and Lexus vehicles are ridiculously priced. Yes they are reliable but Im almost sure The basic tech and cheap materials used in their productions is not the cause the market value in my Country. They are reliable but still cheaply made🤷♂️
@DAMCARTER1 lexus is luxury. Alot higher quality than bmw. Bmw interiors are a joke. Horrible materials and they squeak so much. I've been in hundreds by now since I'm a bmw technician. I've been in practically every model. Compared to audi and mercedes it's incomparable. And audi is luxury and they are reliable. Definitely not cheap but they are truly reliable. Mercedes I don't really know but my friends with mercs had no problems with them. Germans know bmw is a bad car brand. They have many sayings and make fun of it. Like I heard someone call them bavarian manure wagon. Bmws are just so bad they don't even have a single good nurburgring lap time. The fastest bmw m4 csl is 7:19 whilst for the same price you can get a gt3 or r8 which both have 6:53. Mercedes achieved crazy good times too. So did audi. Bmw is left at 7 minutes and 19 seconds. I would like bmws if it weren't for their horrible utter shit delusional fanbase.
@@DudeThedudeskyDude no offense but lexus interiors look like s*, hell I'll go even further, they look like they have been designed by a blind person. There's zero elegance and flow of lines. Compare tgat to something German especially audi/porsche interiors. 😅
Interesting perspective, and all true. We'll see how the Toyota/Lexus turbo engines hold up. The Tundra issue wasn't reliability, it was manufacturing. As for BMW, their biggest problem now is still not figuring out correct location for the gas fill. Germany is a LHD country. Gas fill should be on the left. I hate having to walk around the car every time... not my idea of 'luxury'.
Believe me, the new Toyota/Lexus engines will be the most reliable once they work out the kinks.
If they take out the turbos then yes
How much does it cost to maintain a 2022 BMW X5 vs Lexus LX600/annum?
Those Toyota and lexus hybride are amazing
Yes they are!
When it comes to BMWs, 1999 to 2006 referred to as the E46 and E39 are the best if maintained. They exceed the reliability of my LEXUS. None of my three BMWs and one of them has 268,000 miles on it. This summer I took it on a 4,000 milf road trip without a second thought. No loss of oil or coolant or anything.
Family had a 2001 bmw 320d new back then, by 2006 when the warranty expired suddenly half the car started breaking, engine, turbo, starter, center locking, AC, transmission. None stop repair. The most unreliable bmw we ever had. We had X3 and 5 series after, but none of them were as bad as the 2001 model
Plenty of issues with the E46 platform, especially if you go up to the M3. Oil pressure and trans issues possible in all, subframe issues with the M3 that are difficult to detect with any standard PPI. Really need to know what you're getting into buying one; may go without a hitch, may cost you up to half of what you paid for the car in repairs by the time you're done, all in how your luck comes out.
WOW amazing TY so much ,,Keep up the great work,
Thanks
I had a BMW 3 series and it was genuinely one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever owned. The car didn't even have 50k miles on it and something was constantly breaking down. I then bought a Lexus IS250 put over 150k miles on it and it NEVER had one issue. It was so good i bought another Lexus and honestly I don't think I will own anything but a Lexus again
Lexus would be boring old car. Bmw is thrill and luxury of both worlds.
They aren't. Bmws are shit with shit quality interiors
@@DudeThedudesky bmw hater right here😂😂
@olympbarca3313 I don't hate bmw as a brand. I hate their delusional fanboys. Yeah they have shit quality interiors compared to merc and audi and porsche.
@user-wi4ci2jo4u yeah sure look the new mers with that screen on the middle .Sorry that's not good interior. Bmw make much better interiors than before. So please stop. I see you hate bmw on every comment when someone said good thing for bmw. I hate that kind of people
@olympbarca3313 no. I hate people who over exaggerate how good bmws are. They aren't bad but they aren't good
There's no such thing as a reliable machine. Its just how long can you run it without it being a headache
The only bmw engines that don’t have leaks are the electric ones haha
haha nice
You're repeating a common false narrative that greater fuel efficiency is a product of government regulations and not a market pressure from shrinking pocket books and wallets at the pump. The 2020 OPEC deal that the former President negotiated cemented lower oil production at a time when motorists needed greater supply. The Saudis, Russians ane Texas oil companies made staggering sums on the backs of motorists. Tesla prices exploded as did demand for high mpg cars. The 2020 OPEC deal expired in the first quarter of 2022 and oil production finally went up and gas prices slowly came down but inflation remained sticky as corporations rarely lower prices when unemployment remains below 4% for nearly 30 consecutive months.
Newer BMWs are reliable for what they are. They've come a long way and are a genuine solid choice if you have the funds to stay on top of the maintenance...
But they can't match Lexus on reliability.
Much more reliable these days
anything new is generally reliable...at least I would hope so. Only time will tell actually.
........I always find it Highly interesting that beemer supporters always have the EXCUSE built in " BMWs are reliable for what they are " and yes they are known as BMW..Bring More Wallet's i.e. #1 for initial cost #2 Huge Repair / Sevice costs HUGE LOSS in DEPRECIATION...Wake up!
@donaldbanner2185 just tell that you hate Bmw and cannot afford yo and cannot admit that the new Bmw are more reliable than the new Lexus😂😂😂😂
I put almost 80k in my 430 2020, and no issues, only normal maintenance. Everything original from the dealership.
When you quote Consumer Reports as a reliable source, I lose all interest. They're a pay to play just like JD "awards" you keep hearing about on car advertising. It's all bull.
That or they drive them for 10k miles and judge them to be amazing and reliable in only 10k miles lol
Where would be reliable sources to learn about the reliability of cars?
Lexus fanboys saying oh lexus is more reliable because I have a lexus with x amount of miles, not realizing he's talking about new lexus not the old shit yall got that still runs
I recently read a Consumer Reports magazine issue that said BMW was number one in customer satisfaction and Jeep was the worst, in Customer /satisfaction? WTF?
everytime i take out my M2 it has to get serviced. my V8 lexus still running w/out any major issues for yrs. lexus reliability is incredible.
Perhaps the close cooperation between Toyota and BMW gives the Bavarians a greater advantage. They are also working together on completely new technology for a new and completely different generation of engines (it suppouse to be an alternative to hydrogene and electrics, which was announced not so long ago).
You can thank unrealistic government emissions targets for forcing Lexus to go to smaller turbocharged engines. I understand that Lexus has taken some hits recently but I’m sure that they’ll get it right soon. Furthermore the problem with BMW’s is that their parts are so expensive as is their service. I currently own two Lexus vehicles and they’re both fantastic, I would recommend buying a used Lexus car with the older engines and keep it for a number of years then Lexus will have it right.
Lexus isn’t associated it is a fancy Toyota with some better quality control
I have 1 Lexus and always keeping breaking down (the newer one 2023 and above) so I sold it and bought a Mercedes Benz over a Lexus
You can lie due to hatred but not in this level, everything is covered under Lexus warranty for 10 years and 100000 miles. 😂
Last 5 vehicles were BMW’s. All have been problem free. Currently have a 24 X1 M35i, and a 20 X3 M40i. Both have been very reliable.
All these comments about how reliable their Lexus is. The new Lexus are not as reliable and BMW are becoming more reliable. Get with the times people. Toyota isn't what they use to be
They will not accept it 😂😂😂
Can't go wrong with hybrid lexus. The made in Japan one. German cars are filled with overcomplicated electronics, its obvious that more parts to break = more problems. That's how it is. New bmw 2.0 engines tend to fall apart after 90k miles, do you imagine a big lexus v6/v8 doing that?
My experience with Lexus over 20 years is that they are way ahead of all German car manufacturers. No contest
People have been saying this every year though… “Toyota isn’t as reliable as it used to be” . Literally a decade ago, yet they still create reliable vehicles…
Somewhere in the middle. Consumer Reports loves them both for short term. Reading recent 10 year ownership reports and Lexus/Toyota was still first by a mile but BMW has worked it's way ahead of every single brand made outside of Japan. Take every source with a grain of salt but the report was Lexus/Toyota followed distantly by Acura/Honda followed distantly by Mazda and BMW.
Just traded my 22 RX 350 for a new 24 RX 350. I absolutely love it. It was time for the update. Actually more spirited driving with the higher end torque. I’ll bet on Lexus as much I love the X5
If Lexus have half of bmw technology and engine power would be less reliable
what technology? the newest lexus aren't that bad. they finally upgraded the infotainment and such.
Fancy screen is not technology. What have bmw that missing on Lexus
Lexus has been eating BMW’s dust in terms of technology the whole time. There’s nothing in there. That’s why it doesn’t break down
............................... Any added Tech ...is obviously an over kill and Keep DOG BMW...( B ring M ore W allet's ) RELIABILITY is * LUXUARY!!!!!!!
@@donaldbanner2185 any luxury car is a big scam to keep you poor. 😜
lol I got 2019 bmw 530i. weekly problem is guaranteed with this vehicle with all the maintenance. Do not drive this thing without warranty. today I have a blown evaporator and got quoted 6200 from the dealder. the car's worth 23k. Is it worth to fix it?
This video is missinformation central.. 🤦♂️.. the giant recall Toyota did on their new v6 is NOT because they "unreliable" but because the NC plant they were produced screwed it up and built it with defects. (All affected engines were replaced for free!) This same engine built in Japan has 0 problems. As for other new engines, as you said: "remains to be seen" - which means there are NO major issues as of right now. So, what exactly are you complaining about then? 🤷♂️
If what you’re saying is true, then why they are also recalling Lexus lx 600 which should be built in Japan? Things are not adding up I’m not sure if this is plant specific or it’s just the new engine that needed better production.
quality control in america is just shit
US plant even managed to mess it up the v6 from the es 350. There was some issues with engine seals or something of that sort... only with usa models.
I always sell my BMWs when they reach about 75-80k miles and have never experienced any mechanical problems up to the time I’m ready to trade. Ive always loved the appearance, style, and performance of BMW over Lexus. I lost all interest in considering Lexus when they were redesigned with that hideous looking spindle grill. I’m in the market for a new 2025 but the new gen x3 and X5 have too many design flaws that I can’t overlook. What was the design team thinking??
BMW more reliable than Lexus...next i will hear how great Trudeau is as our leader. It cant be.
The new Bmw definitely
Wait for new Lexus having twin turbos.
Toyota has no experience how to build a reliable turbo powertrain.
It's called a brand new platform. The b58 and s58 are bulletproof engines from bmw. They are so good toyato and range rover bought them for their cars.
@G82Watts I watch I DO CARS with Eric...you cannot baffle me with BULL💩💩💩💩
@@mikefoehr235Oh boy, he had a bad B58 core. The horror! I guess an engine must be trash if it makes an appearance on I Do Car’s channel.
Family currently still have 3x Lexus, RX350 and two NX200t. 8 years old and basically zero problems. Over 100k miles and one with 130k miles, we only do basic maintenance…. Even alternators and brake disc rotors are still factory. Had 4x bmw before this…. X3, 3 series, 5 series…. Lexus hands down more luxurious and reliable. Reason for changing bmw? They keep breaking down none stop.
Many Lexus owner who switch to bmw is due to how dull Lexus are to drive. If reliability is the only benchmark Germans have no chance of sale, but they outsell Lexus globally. Most people who own these cars don’t own them 10 plus years. They want to feel that thrill of performance and Germans know that, those are choices they have made. 3 series has lost some of its thrill because they went more close to nice ride and reliability got CR badge but lost enthusiasts as well. My buddy has 07 3 series close to 200k miles water pump replaced after 100k miles basis maintenance. I owned 3 series till 100k miles with no issues. Never any issues with many leased bmws and Audis. When you push for performance there are parts need to be replaced like in race cars you drive like golf cart nothing needs to replaced more often.
.....Sad you Never mention how Sooooo very many who get a Repair burdened and LOSS configured in depreciation owners of beemers SWITCH BACK to LEXUS or simply remain dumb by Leasing and dumping beemers every 2 years.just like cedes owners.
Majority of luxury cars are leased very few people buy them new, there is huge market of used buyers also, it is choice there is no dumbness on both choices, some see value buying new some old whatever based on their financial condition and other priorities in life. If one choose a car to push it to limits then it comes with constant repairs and more maintenance it is conscious choice by car maker and buyer both, Lexus is great value for many but not others.
Lexus suv dull? No shit sherlock. It's not a sports car. Their sports cars are great. Bmws oversteer like a piece of shit they are
Lexus is dying as we know it really fast. The NX, RX, TX don't even deserve that badge.
Honestly driven BMW and Toyota for the last 15 years and they are equally dependable and both have been greatly exaggerated.
BMW can be reliable you just have to know which model and year you're dealing with I have a 09 328i which was one of BMW best years it had the N52 Engine Naturally aspirated inline 6 which was bulletproof I think what hurt a lot of car manufacturers with reliability is when they started adding turbos to everything which makes more moving parts and can make engines run hotter so you had a uptick of cars just breaking down or having something wrong with it all the time case in point I had a VW 08 Passat with a 2.0 turbo and those cars had a ton of problems leading to engine failure.
My 2013 328i has been quite reliable tbh. I just wish the dealer would charge normal prices for maintenance.
Cheers