Every now and then, I stumble into a video so unexpectedly entertaining that it makes my day and I end up subbing and binge watching an entire channel's worth of content. Today is that day.
Stop right there I know you're joking, but think about it adapting Lovecraft's work for the modern day but with gangsters and stuff, like you said That would be IRL amazing
1gil2Kill Finally someone calling out Lovecraft for the bitch he is! Just because he can't deal with a world that doesn't revolve around comforting his fragile psyche doesn't mean everybody in the world is brain-breakingly horrified by whatever he's going on about. What Lovecraft didn't realize is that people are often drawn to the unknown, the unexplored, the mysterious, and the new. Take out the subjective adjectives from a Lovecraft story and you can see how irrationally his protagonists treat the unfamiliar. Other species are no more "wrong" than other races, cultures, genders, or religions. Just because you find something unusual or even alien doesn't make it bad.
If it weren't for the paranoia and Rhode Island weather, we wouldn't have Lovecraft's works. That being said, gangsta theme The Outsider en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outsider_(short_story) would have to be funhouse mirror of horrific racism or something bizarre.
+Alberto Hinojosa, yes he was but remember that he is a product of his time he was also a large anti-Semite and ended up marrying a Jewish woman. He was very introverted man who for his time was used to people being homogeneous. I don't think we should hold it against him, Del Toro said that we shouldn't use that to judge him we should look at it like a carbon record of how soceity used to be and how we as a people are advancing
I think my favorite part of the story is when the Shoggoth is chasing the characters. It's stated that they're running at top speed and don't have time to turn around, as that would slow them down. Despite this, the main character feels the need to turn around and see what's chasing him. The reader is never given a description of the creature. All you get is pretty much "OH, SHIT," and then the main character runs even faster than he thought he could. Sometimes things are better left to the imagination. :-D
Actually sounds to similar to one point in Stephen King's The Dark Tower, where Roland and Susannah had to go in a tunnel and started running when they found out there was a monster with multiple eyeballs chasing after them.
@Tony Montresor - The first one could have been good, but test audiences thought they were watching a zombie apocalypse movie and that led to editing that ruined it.
@@julietfischer5056 most likely, especially since the Dark Tower series has a bunch of obvious references from other books including Stephen King's other works
A previous poster is bemoaning Lovecraft's pessimism and bigotry, while having obviously not read much of his work. Lovecraft had some really backwards ideas, however his horror, and technique is worthy of praise. I am of Portuguese descent, and Lovecraft was no fan of Portuguese people, Swedish, Polish, Jewish, or any other non-Anglo whites. He suffered psychological abuse from his grandfather who instilled many of his xenophobic ideas in to him at a very young age. There is no forgiving the slurs that Lovecraft uses, or his ignorant mentality. However it should also be noted that he did not approve of violence, and became more progressive after marrying. Also he spent most of his life in poor neighborhoods in which he was perhaps the only Englishman so it is likely that he encountered hostility himself and vented untrue sentiments through his writing. H.P Lovecraft was human like the rest of us, and I don't accept that he was just a "product of his time", but I do like to think if he were alive today that he would be more open minded. After all he was a man of science and modern science shows that all humans are Homo-Sapien-Sapien. As far as pessimism goes, aren't most smart people a little cynical? I think it was very big of Wisecrack not to be cruel to the man's legacy and judge Lovecraft's work on its own merits. I have also watched a few Thug Notes after this video and found them all quite amusing. If anyone is interested in reading cosmic horror similar to Lovecraft's I would recommend: "The King in Yellow" by Robert Chambers, "Monstrocity" and "Unholy Dimensions" by Jeffrey Thomas, and "The Beautiful Thing that Awaits Us All" by Laird Barron. We are truly living in a historic period of horror stories if one knows where to look. Thanks for your time y'all.
It's weird that he made Randolf Carters most trusted friends Black and Indian if he was so racist. Though Randolf was one of the most open minded charecters in his books. He's probably the exception not the rule.
Thugs notes is so very very awesome. I cannot contain a full measure of just how amusing, these things are, and yet still carrying a degree of lucid educational value.
Depends. If he filmed it in a style reminiscent of Hitchcock, where most of the horror is left up to the imagination of the viewer, I think he could pull it off.
That's what I love about Lovecraft and why I think his stuff is so scary. It's not just the language he uses, it's that existential philosophy that's in everything he writes. Like humans are so...pathetic in the end compared to what's out there that we don't know about. And it's because we don't understand it that we're so pathetic. And we never WILL understand it. It's just inevitable that we remain lowly, ignorant life forms for all eternity. We were never meant to understand some things and we never will.
Yup. Thats what makes lovecraftian horror so damn good IMO. It shatters that deeply help human faith that we are somehow important and that things will be okay. No. For all our progress and technology we are children stumbling in a dark room full things our tools couldn't explain even if we could detect them.
Love Lovecraft. Even with his flaws, his writing as always inspired me in so many ways. And this review you have done for one of my favorite stories is just awesome.
I read a lot of Lovecraft on a Western Pacific (WESPAC) deployment aboard a fast attack submarine and some of the nightmares derived from the stories were horrifying, to say the least. I haven't read this one yet, though, and this analysis of it has DEFINITELY got me interested
You read lovecraft on a submarine? You're a brave soul. Most of his terrors sleep at the bottom of the ocean in that very region. Lovecraft was terrified of the sea as it was and is still hardly touched by man(plus he hated seafood
darkservantofheaven It definitely showed in his work. Very fascinating. I dunno...I love Lovecraft's style of writing: very descriptive and engaging. It also helped me a lot to have a thesaurus at hand hahah
I still remember that story. I was reading it in school, and the bell at the end of a class period rang right in the middle of the climactic scene. It was the first time I ever had a story get my heart pounding in my chest.
My GOD that was an incredible summary. I love how he hits every key point and makes it cool to get into good literature. I'm years late to loving this but it's keeping me very well entertained and enlightened during quarantine. This is wonderful.
I've thought a bit about it and i think a better line would be "it's one of the less lovecraftian stories". It doesn't contain any old ones, it doesn't have any talk about insanity in it and focuses more on isolation. I think you can place most of his stories in one of 2 camps some like the call of Chtulhu, Dagon, the Colour out of space and the Shadow over Innsmouth involve old ones, alot of insanity (usually from interacting with old ones) and alot of completly supernatural things. The other camp are stories like the outsider, the picture in the house and herbert west the reanimator (all great short stories) that sometimes feels alot closer to an Edgar Allan Poe story than the others which have alot of old one influnce. The non-old ones stories are by no means bad, infact imo alot of the best lovecraft stories are in this camp. However they are not really the stories he is know for since they don't have all of the hallmark lovecraft traits. It doesn't really have any signs that it is in the same universe as the stories in the former category. So they don't contribute to the lovecraft mythos but are instead self contained stories. TLDR The outsider doesn't contain old ones and insanity so it isn't that "lovecraftian" and not the kind of story that illustrate what a classic lovecraft story is typically like.
A well spoken succinctation. I literally finished this yesterday, and I found it--outside of Tolkien--to be one of the most slogging-reads I've ever experienced. Well done in encapsulating it so well.
I'm new to Lovecraft and, I admit, it took me a while to look him up because one of the first things I learned about him was his extreme xenophobia which, needless to say, was a complete turn-off for me. But after learning more about him, I understood more about why he thought the way he did. Not that that excuses his views or what he said because of them, of course. But while researching him, I didn't find the heartless monster I'd expected such views to come from. If anything, Lovecraft was a fascinating, complex character: He wrote about outsiders and considered himself one, but he was a xenophobe; he was anti-Semitic and yet he married a Jewish woman. He was human, like the rest of us. We're all creatures of both light and dark and only time will tell which the world will see us in. Anyway, this was a great review. I'll definitely add this to my "to read" list. Keep up the good work, Sparky! P.S. "Every player know you gotta warm the oven before you slide in the meat. Lovecraft, know what I mean?" Best. Quote. Ever. With a last name like Lovecraft, one has to wonder if he . . . well, if he lived up to his name in other aspects of his life. Oh, come on, we were all thinking it!
It’s believed by some that he included spore-based reproduction in his works a lot because he didn’t know that much about sex. I just don’t think he was that interested in sex.
This is was my first experience of f H.P. Lovecraft. I read a comic book adaptation of At the Mountains of Madness at my local library. And I'm glad that I read this story as my introduction.
My friend had sent me a link to the website with all of his work my freshman year of High School and people were quiet about him then too. The Hound story really stuck out to me for whatever reason. I do really like how he's become so in vogue....most of the times anyway.
I think it's also partly due to games like Bloodborne, which kind of came out of nowhere. It threw the lovecraft ball at people when they didn't expect it, thus, people who think "Love craft is boring" were sort of "forced" to give it a shot if they tried the game. I was one of those people, and now I absolutely adore the setting. It's so good. I wish more games would go in depth on it. :/
I guess in the Lovecraft world the only way for humanity to evolve is to learn to live with madness ... we learned to adapt to everything else in our known world ... but to live with the unknown we must master our minds to live with the madness that will take hold when we see the unexplainable. Control what is out of our control to live with what we can never explain.
Makes sense. If ancient hominids walk in our cities now, chances are they will go mad, being unable to comprehend the steel serpents under our feet, the metal dragons that soared our skies and the metal chariots that need not be drawn by horses. Hell, the very sight of our glass spires would fill our ancestors with awe and terror.
in stephen kings "It" Stan Uris was an example of humans that couldn't possibly rewire their brains to deal with the unexplained and impossible... stan eventually committed suicide rather than come face to face with the impossible again... Stephen King is a great Lovecraft imitator one of the best.
The trick to dealing with insanity, I reckon, was to be exposed to insanity gradually. If our ancestors were immediately placed in space, they will go nuts right then and there. The reason why modern astronauts didn't go nuts was because we as a species had many centuries to prepare for the event. Centuries of learning, study, imagination, mathematics, etc. I say this applies even to the unimaginable horrors beyond space and time. If we were to face with such horrors right now we will go insane. However, if we were to study bits and fragments and indirect observations of the horror for several centuries, we might actually be able to cope with the horror when we see it in full.
A few years ago, I read that the remains of a now-extinct species of giant penguin were found in the Antarctic. They were fully as large as the birds in the story.
yeah, the theme to every HP story I've read can be summed up in 4 words 'curiosity killed the cat'. Every story is about someone looking too far and deep into something, taking chances and reaching beyond either intellectually or physically or both, and paying a price of some kind for it It's almost kind of prudish, in a way. His centerpiece creations, the Necronomicon and 'The Call of Cthulu' spell it out pretty plain. The Necronomicon is a 'thing that should not be' that people regret looking at, and from the above story: ' We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.' there's always a dread in HP that the truth, whatever it is, must be something horrible. Yes, I know he's a horror writer, and there's no way a horror writer can get around that dread of the unknown and general pessimism thing completely, but HP really takes it to extremes. btw the above passage is one of my favs in all literature, in case anyone things I'm just being a critical ass
"Hmmmm, how do I describe how alien and incomprehensible these creatures are? I'll just tell the reader they're indescribable. My work as a writer is done!" -HP Lovecraft Also, the taxonomic rank chart in this video skipped over "genus" :(
dorpth if he described it , doesn't that mean it's comprehensible xD? i think just saying incomprehensible is justified since people go insane when they see those creatures , i don't think we're supposed to be able to imagine them
@@moonscented6783 I could just as easily be lazy writing. Establish the premise they are incomprehensible to avoid having to come up with something in detail. If they are entities from another dimension making them incomprehensible he should have avoided any details such as the many eyes or tentacles and such but to only alluded to the effect of having seen one.
metatechnocrat While the monsters are mostly indescribable, the many narrators do their best to describe what they see, the many eyes and tentacles are just two of the very few things that these horrors have in common with us and the animals we have studied and seen.
@@metatechnocrat - Are you claiming that if you saw something beyond your experience that you would be able to accurately describe it in minute detail?
Prometheus is why Guillermo del Toro put his adaptation of this story on indefinite hold. The two stories were too similar and del Toro didn't want to deal w/ making the same movie as someone else. It's a shame, as I'm pretty sure his adaptation of At the Mountains of Madness would have been miles above Prometheus.
Prometheus and Aline Vs Predator "borrow" from this story. If you put the two together you get a rough outline of it. Ridley Scott is known for this, like how Gladiator is based on Spartacus. Then again a lot of stories "borrow" from others. Hunger Games also takes a lot from Spartacus, but also Uglies by Scott Westerfeld and the legend of Theseus and the Minotaur.
Immensely entertaining and informative analysis! I bought Lovecraft's Complete Fiction early last week, and I'm reading all of the stories pertaining to the Cthulhu Mythos. I've read The Call of Cthulhu and The Dunwich Horror so far, with At The Mountains of Madness in queue! I'm ashamed that I put off reading Lovecraft, because these tales are absolutely awesome and terrifying! I'm hoping that you'll cover the Cthulhu Mythos and stories in full for some of your videos in the near future; possibly for Halloween! Thank you for the stellar content!
2:35 I have a feeling that's your natural voice. Much clearer. I know roughening up your voice is a part of the shtick and gimmick of this series, and I understand how you can't really change things now, but personally, I prefer this over the voice you usually use. Less grating, less sounding like someone stuck your poor vocal chords through a cheese grater.
It's not "shtick and gimmick"; it's the role he's playing. Don't you think some of those crazy things he says would sound strange coming from a more normal voice?
Snuggles McSquishbottom Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to. I call it a schtick, you call it a role. And yes, actually. Plenty of hardcore born on the streets thugs don't talk raspy. They effect a slang, a dialect, a drawl, but raspyness isn't one of them.
Son of Nahuatl Oh, I see. So, in order for me to understand something, I actually have to live it. I can't see it, read it, or watch it. Well, if that is the requirement for understanding, then I guess, for example, you wouldn't know a damn thing about, say, slavery, since you've never been a slave.
***** Huh? Your little dig at me doesn't make any sense! At least in the states, it was freaking white people who did the enslaving! So, you would think that I wouldn't want to "fall back" to slavery as a point considering how shameful it is. My point stands. People can have an opinion on something, have knowledge about something, without actually having to experience it firsthand. So, you got a counterargument there, chum, or are you going to try and level more awkward racist crap at me?
@@VinnyDaQ Well, technically, the Old Ones who built the Antartican city were no "Cthulu spawn", as Lovecraft put it. They actually fought the Cthulu spawn in a war and Lovecraft made clear these were different beings, calling the Cthulu spawn "Another race". It's in chapter 7 of Mountains of Madness, on about the 5th page.
Wisecrack Well, just so you know Thug Notes holds it down mighty well. 8-bit Philosophy, love it. I can't wait for the new shows that are on the horizon :).
I think my favorite line in all of Lovecraft was in Call of Cthulhu, where the ship sustained damage because it crashed into an angle "that looked acute, but acted as though it were obtuse," or something to that extent. Man, that is genius.
Lotus Prince "That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die" - Abdul Alhazred, The Nameless City Best Lovecraft quote imo
@@paulmccollum8954 - HIs stories are chock full of science and scientific concepts. R'lyeh is truly alien to this world, a reflection of the plane from which its builders originated, and thus impossible to adequately describe in any human language.
PUH-TO-THE-PLEASE keep 'em coming Wisecrack! I REALLY enjoy what you're doing with THUG NOTES. I'm so glad you did " A Wrinkle in Time!" I met Madeleine and she was straight up COOL! I Love your show, and it speaks to me, as I'm sure many others. Peace.
Desdemona People like me? Wow...I didn't realize we knew each other. If by "people like me," you mean people who can't get very far in books that feature hilariously incompetent prose, then I suppose that's fair enough. And of course, many classics were viewed as important, substantial, and well-written in their own time, so your statement is a poor generalization. Nice try, as you would say to "people like me." At any rate, there is no valid argument that The Da Vinci Code is classic literature, so again, this is not a reasonable request.
OK I have to say that I love most of the books you have done this with including this one. I also have to say I love it man! The comedy that you infuse into your reviews is awesome and your review are insightful! Keep it up!
How am I just finding these now! These are Amaz-K! This is possibly my favorite HP story! & this is the most accurate & well put together synopsizes I've ever seen!
I am so happy I found this channel....oh my god. I haven't laughed and been enraptured so well in a long time. This has got to be the best way to review and analyze a story. KEEP IT UP MY MAN XD
Dude! Brilliant way to bring people into classic literature. Plus, I think you may be the only brother to tackle Lovecraft. I concur with retsz. Do you thang my dude!
Ha ha, I'm a Halfling, can reroll if it's a "1", and have advantage on saves against being frightened, and I took the Lucky Feat! #ShouldHavePickedHalfling
Every now and then, I stumble into a video so unexpectedly entertaining that it makes my day and I end up subbing and binge watching an entire channel's worth of content. Today is that day.
+retsz We've got 200+ videos, you may want to make popcorn!
Yeah! More Lovecraft Thugnotes would be wicked!
retsz I was just about to make this same comment >.< I had no idea I needed this until I saw it, and yes. Yes I do.
retsz I know, I chanced on Thug Notes... it's genius, something I would have never thought possible.
who is thug notes? your reviews and exploration is very well in depth farther than I ever expected, it's genius.
"Check yourself, before you wreck yourself"
It's strange how many Lovecraft stories can be summarized by that quote.
All I want is an actual adaptation of a lovecraft story with gangstas, and when they see the horror, say "Oh, shit dawg! Break yourself!"
That's actually not a bad idea.
thesalanian you just made me get a laugh attack. thabksew mate. also i find your idea amazing.
Stop right there
I know you're joking, but think about it
adapting Lovecraft's work for the modern day but with gangsters and stuff, like you said
That would be IRL amazing
1gil2Kill Finally someone calling out Lovecraft for the bitch he is!
Just because he can't deal with a world that doesn't revolve around comforting his fragile psyche doesn't mean everybody in the world is brain-breakingly horrified by whatever he's going on about. What Lovecraft didn't realize is that people are often drawn to the unknown, the unexplored, the mysterious, and the new.
Take out the subjective adjectives from a Lovecraft story and you can see how irrationally his protagonists treat the unfamiliar. Other species are no more "wrong" than other races, cultures, genders, or religions. Just because you find something unusual or even alien doesn't make it bad.
If it weren't for the paranoia and Rhode Island weather, we wouldn't have Lovecraft's works.
That being said, gangsta theme The Outsider en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outsider_(short_story) would have to be funhouse mirror of horrific racism or something bizarre.
Can we get more Lovecraft.
+License Plate Jacket Radio Yas please!
+Alberto Hinojosa, yes he was but remember that he is a product of his time he was also a large anti-Semite and ended up marrying a Jewish woman. He was very introverted man who for his time was used to people being homogeneous. I don't think we should hold it against him, Del Toro said that we shouldn't use that to judge him we should look at it like a carbon record of how soceity used to be and how we as a people are advancing
License Plate Jacket Radio Holy Shit...now I feel proud to say I am a Mexican (Like Del Toro) you got a point, fella. Thank you for the illumination.
+Alberto Hinojosa watch the documentary on him, it is really interesting.
License Plate Jacket Radio Will do
I think my favorite part of the story is when the Shoggoth is chasing the characters. It's stated that they're running at top speed and don't have time to turn around, as that would slow them down. Despite this, the main character feels the need to turn around and see what's chasing him. The reader is never given a description of the creature. All you get is pretty much "OH, SHIT," and then the main character runs even faster than he thought he could.
Sometimes things are better left to the imagination. :-D
@Tony Montresor Why shouldn't the first I Am Legend have come out? It gave us that EARLY BvS logo.....
Actually sounds to similar to one point in Stephen King's The Dark Tower, where Roland and Susannah had to go in a tunnel and started running when they found out there was a monster with multiple eyeballs chasing after them.
@Tony Montresor - The first one could have been good, but test audiences thought they were watching a zombie apocalypse movie and that led to editing that ruined it.
@@Spooknight - Perhaps inspired by that moment?
@@julietfischer5056 most likely, especially since the Dark Tower series has a bunch of obvious references from other books including Stephen King's other works
A previous poster is bemoaning Lovecraft's pessimism and bigotry, while having obviously not read much of his work. Lovecraft had some really backwards ideas, however his horror, and technique is worthy of praise. I am of Portuguese descent, and Lovecraft was no fan of Portuguese people, Swedish, Polish, Jewish, or any other non-Anglo whites. He suffered psychological abuse from his grandfather who instilled many of his xenophobic ideas in to him at a very young age.
There is no forgiving the slurs that Lovecraft uses, or his ignorant mentality. However it should also be noted that he did not approve of violence, and became more progressive after marrying. Also he spent most of his life in poor neighborhoods in which he was perhaps the only Englishman so it is likely that he encountered hostility himself and vented untrue sentiments through his writing.
H.P Lovecraft was human like the rest of us, and I don't accept that he was just a "product of his time", but I do like to think if he were alive today that he would be more open minded. After all he was a man of science and modern science shows that all humans are Homo-Sapien-Sapien.
As far as pessimism goes, aren't most smart people a little cynical?
I think it was very big of Wisecrack not to be cruel to the man's legacy and judge Lovecraft's work on its own merits. I have also watched a few Thug Notes after this video and found them all quite amusing.
If anyone is interested in reading cosmic horror similar to Lovecraft's I would recommend: "The King in Yellow" by Robert Chambers, "Monstrocity" and "Unholy Dimensions" by Jeffrey Thomas, and "The Beautiful Thing that Awaits Us All" by Laird Barron. We are truly living in a historic period of horror stories if one knows where to look.
Thanks for your time y'all.
It's weird that he made Randolf Carters most trusted friends Black and Indian if he was so racist. Though Randolf was one of the most open minded charecters in his books. He's probably the exception not the rule.
+Yakui Maybe he was looking to the challenge that of writing someone he wasn't? Who knows.
He DID NOT travel the world.
spookmonster52 Lovecraft wasn't English, he was a Yank.
He was a yank of english descent.
Probably one of the best if not the best episode of thug notes to date. I mean "Lovecraft...Knamean?" That's just gold in its pure form :)
You spelled na mean wrong you dumbass
Sorry, uncultured dumbass
"Lovecraft. Know what I mean?" xD xD xD
Best line in this video.
So true. That was one evil metaphor + pun combo, masterfully conceived and appropriately deployed.
Headrock I don't get it
@@Toto-95 and also following a line about turning someone on before doing anything else.
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Even after all these years that cracks me up. I'm here because I was randomly reminded of it and I just had to hear it. :D
Thugs notes is so very very awesome. I cannot contain a full measure of just how amusing, these things are, and yet still carrying a degree of lucid educational value.
GOD DAMMIT LET GUILLERMO DEL TORO DIRECT THIS MOVIE!
YES!!!!! HIS VISUAL STYLE ALONE IS WORTH IT😄👿
Depends. If he filmed it in a style reminiscent of Hitchcock, where most of the horror is left up to the imagination of the viewer, I think he could pull it off.
Archduke what a fantastic idea. Yes please.
Go read his script. Its not that good
Archduke maybe... That could be interesting if done right....
That's what I love about Lovecraft and why I think his stuff is so scary. It's not just the language he uses, it's that existential philosophy that's in everything he writes. Like humans are so...pathetic in the end compared to what's out there that we don't know about. And it's because we don't understand it that we're so pathetic. And we never WILL understand it. It's just inevitable that we remain lowly, ignorant life forms for all eternity. We were never meant to understand some things and we never will.
Yup. Thats what makes lovecraftian horror so damn good IMO. It shatters that deeply help human faith that we are somehow important and that things will be okay. No. For all our progress and technology we are children stumbling in a dark room full things our tools couldn't explain even if we could detect them.
I love how he suddenly become soft-spoken and articulate when he starts quoting the book.
That's his schtick.
Love Lovecraft. Even with his flaws, his writing as always inspired me in so many ways. And this review you have done for one of my favorite stories is just awesome.
+Dreaming Serpent Wasn't he a nihilist though? I love his works, but I'm not sure inspiring is the proper term for him.
Existentialist*
Brother Malachai He was so ahead of his time, imo. Especially about religion, and our place in the universe.
Pinip_F_Werty other then writing he was a piece of shit read about him
The Daemon Sultan Does that matter?
Please do: The Call of Cthulhu
Yeeeees.
What about The Shadow Over Innsmouth?
The Colour Out of Space?
Thing on the Doorstep
The Case of Charles Dexter Ward!
Dr. Sweets, I really wish you were still doing these! They are amazing!
“ every player knows u gotta warm the oven , before u slide in the meat . love craft ! Naw mean? “ 😂😂😂
You should definitely do more Lovecraft! Glad to see him on this channel.
Hi Lovecraft
I read a lot of Lovecraft on a Western Pacific (WESPAC) deployment aboard a fast attack submarine and some of the nightmares derived from the stories were horrifying, to say the least. I haven't read this one yet, though, and this analysis of it has DEFINITELY got me interested
You read lovecraft on a submarine? You're a brave soul. Most of his terrors sleep at the bottom of the ocean in that very region. Lovecraft was terrified of the sea as it was and is still hardly touched by man(plus he hated seafood
Hey man, next time you're out there you should read The Temple.
Man, if there ever was a correct way to read Lovecraft, you've found it.
Joe Young Hahah, right? I like to write myself, so it was inspiration for me, too!
darkservantofheaven
It definitely showed in his work. Very fascinating. I dunno...I love Lovecraft's style of writing: very descriptive and engaging. It also helped me a lot to have a thesaurus at hand hahah
I still remember that story. I was reading it in school, and the bell at the end of a class period rang right in the middle of the climactic scene. It was the first time I ever had a story get my heart pounding in my chest.
My GOD that was an incredible summary. I love how he hits every key point and makes it cool to get into good literature. I'm years late to loving this but it's keeping me very well entertained and enlightened during quarantine. This is wonderful.
In my opinion, the Outsider is Lovecraft's most underrated story
+Jacob Benko The Outsider is one of his best
Probably because it's one of the least lovecraftian out of all of his stories.
Still one of my absolute favorites.
My personal favorite is The Case of Charles Dexter Ward. The atmosphere and mystery in that one are just too good.
Why do you think so?
I've thought a bit about it and i think a better line would be "it's one of the less lovecraftian stories".
It doesn't contain any old ones, it doesn't have any talk about insanity in it and focuses more on isolation.
I think you can place most of his stories in one of 2 camps some like the call of Chtulhu, Dagon, the Colour out of space and the Shadow over Innsmouth involve old ones, alot of insanity (usually from interacting with old ones) and alot of completly supernatural things.
The other camp are stories like the outsider, the picture in the house and herbert west the reanimator (all great short stories) that sometimes feels alot closer to an Edgar Allan Poe story than the others which have alot of old one influnce.
The non-old ones stories are by no means bad, infact imo alot of the best lovecraft stories are in this camp. However they are not really the stories he is know for since they don't have all of the hallmark lovecraft traits.
It doesn't really have any signs that it is in the same universe as the stories in the former category. So they don't contribute to the lovecraft mythos but are instead self contained stories.
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The outsider doesn't contain old ones and insanity so it isn't that "lovecraftian" and not the kind of story that illustrate what a classic lovecraft story is typically like.
I just finished this book. This is exactly how the director in my mind played it out as the story progressed. Your analysis was spot on.
A well spoken succinctation. I literally finished this yesterday, and I found it--outside of Tolkien--to be one of the most slogging-reads I've ever experienced. Well done in encapsulating it so well.
Man having such a nostalgic time. I come back to Thug Notes after 8 years at least. I loved these videos and they’ll still classic
I'm new to Lovecraft and, I admit, it took me a while to look him up because one of the first things I learned about him was his extreme xenophobia which, needless to say, was a complete turn-off for me. But after learning more about him, I understood more about why he thought the way he did. Not that that excuses his views or what he said because of them, of course. But while researching him, I didn't find the heartless monster I'd expected such views to come from. If anything, Lovecraft was a fascinating, complex character: He wrote about outsiders and considered himself one, but he was a xenophobe; he was anti-Semitic and yet he married a Jewish woman. He was human, like the rest of us. We're all creatures of both light and dark and only time will tell which the world will see us in.
Anyway, this was a great review. I'll definitely add this to my "to read" list. Keep up the good work, Sparky!
P.S. "Every player know you gotta warm the oven before you slide in the meat. Lovecraft, know what I mean?"
Best. Quote. Ever.
With a last name like Lovecraft, one has to wonder if he . . . well, if he lived up to his name in other aspects of his life.
Oh, come on, we were all thinking it!
He didn't date much. His wife called him 'an excellently adequate lover', but at the time that didn't exclusively mean sex.
It’s believed by some that he included spore-based reproduction in his works a lot because he didn’t know that much about sex. I just don’t think he was that interested in sex.
This is was my first experience of f H.P. Lovecraft. I read a comic book adaptation of At the Mountains of Madness at my local library. And I'm glad that I read this story as my introduction.
"That's double digit adjectives in one damn sentence, maan."
Lovecraft was about that thug life.
I have never loved a channel so much I subscribed after two videos
I love lovecraft's work and I've noticed a spike in people talking about his work
Strange when I read Lovecraft back in the 80's and 90's there was complete silence. Sometimes your born too late and/or your born too early.
My friend had sent me a link to the website with all of his work my freshman year of High School and people were quiet about him then too. The Hound story really stuck out to me for whatever reason. I do really like how he's become so in vogue....most of the times anyway.
Preamble Zero Mountains of Madness, Shadow over Innsmouth, and the Call of Cuthulu are good.
because of Rick and Morty...
I think it's also partly due to games like Bloodborne, which kind of came out of nowhere. It threw the lovecraft ball at people when they didn't expect it, thus, people who think "Love craft is boring" were sort of "forced" to give it a shot if they tried the game. I was one of those people, and now I absolutely adore the setting. It's so good. I wish more games would go in depth on it. :/
I am in a very loud environment so I needed to put on the captions. I am beyond impressed with them!!! So on point!!!
Thank you for delving into Lovecraft.
I randomly was suggested this on RUclips. Bro, this is some hardcore service to literature here. Thank you.
I guess in the Lovecraft world the only way for humanity to evolve is to learn to live with madness ... we learned to adapt to everything else in our known world ... but to live with the unknown we must master our minds to live with the madness that will take hold when we see the unexplainable. Control what is out of our control to live with what we can never explain.
Whatever doesn't kill us, makes us stronger.
Makes sense. If ancient hominids walk in our cities now, chances are they will go mad, being unable to comprehend the steel serpents under our feet, the metal dragons that soared our skies and the metal chariots that need not be drawn by horses. Hell, the very sight of our glass spires would fill our ancestors with awe and terror.
Punishthefalse And to think it all started with a tiny fireplace a long time ago...
in stephen kings "It" Stan Uris was an example of humans that couldn't possibly rewire their brains to deal with the unexplained and impossible... stan eventually committed suicide rather than come face to face with the impossible again... Stephen King is a great Lovecraft imitator one of the best.
The trick to dealing with insanity, I reckon, was to be exposed to insanity gradually. If our ancestors were immediately placed in space, they will go nuts right then and there. The reason why modern astronauts didn't go nuts was because we as a species had many centuries to prepare for the event. Centuries of learning, study, imagination, mathematics, etc. I say this applies even to the unimaginable horrors beyond space and time. If we were to face with such horrors right now we will go insane. However, if we were to study bits and fragments and indirect observations of the horror for several centuries, we might actually be able to cope with the horror when we see it in full.
Came across this review looking for something to push me over to Lovecraft. You've done it. This was original and entertaining.
+justin lacasse
Another convert! Welcome to the obsession... ;D
Try Bloodbourne
Aw, no mention of the giant, blind penguins? Pretty sure that's the best part!
A few years ago, I read that the remains of a now-extinct species of giant penguin were found in the Antarctic. They were fully as large as the birds in the story.
I thought I didn't understand the plot until I read your comment
Awesome presentation! And way to stay on topic, something that almost never happens when lovecraft is discussed.
This is freaking hilarious and awesome and so well done. Bravo! Author! Author!
This....this video is a gift to mankind
yeah, the theme to every HP story I've read can be summed up in 4 words 'curiosity killed the cat'. Every story is about someone looking too far and deep into something, taking chances and reaching beyond either intellectually or physically or both, and paying a price of some kind for it
It's almost kind of prudish, in a way. His centerpiece creations, the Necronomicon and 'The Call of Cthulu' spell it out pretty plain. The Necronomicon is a 'thing that should not be' that people regret looking at, and from the above story:
' We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.'
there's always a dread in HP that the truth, whatever it is, must be something horrible. Yes, I know he's a horror writer, and there's no way a horror writer can get around that dread of the unknown and general pessimism thing completely, but HP really takes it to extremes. btw the above passage is one of my favs in all literature, in case anyone things I'm just being a critical ass
You deserve an award for this . . .
"You've got to warm the oven, before you slide in the meat." 😁
this is everything I've ever needed in my life.
Could you do some other works of Lovecraft?
I read a graphic novel adaptation of this book. It was the first H P Lovecraft story I ever read, and I loved it. Thank you for reviewing this.
oh man, I wanted this one so much!
I'm super pumped for all the other new formats - Keep'em coming!
"Hmmmm, how do I describe how alien and incomprehensible these creatures are? I'll just tell the reader they're indescribable. My work as a writer is done!" -HP Lovecraft
Also, the taxonomic rank chart in this video skipped over "genus" :(
dorpth if he described it , doesn't that mean it's comprehensible xD?
i think just saying incomprehensible is justified
since people go insane when they see those creatures , i don't think we're supposed to be able to imagine them
@@moonscented6783 I could just as easily be lazy writing. Establish the premise they are incomprehensible to avoid having to come up with something in detail. If they are entities from another dimension making them incomprehensible he should have avoided any details such as the many eyes or tentacles and such but to only alluded to the effect of having seen one.
metatechnocrat While the monsters are mostly indescribable, the many narrators do their best to describe what they see, the many eyes and tentacles are just two of the very few things that these horrors have in common with us and the animals we have studied and seen.
@@metatechnocrat - Are you claiming that if you saw something beyond your experience that you would be able to accurately describe it in minute detail?
@@julietfischer5056 well, it had like a body. And like things and stuff
Fantastic! Please, do more Lovecraft.
How about Shadow over Innsmouth?
Loved the Chappelle Show reference!
Keep up the good work guys!!!
Oh lovecraft I've been waiting for this!
RUclips finally got something right in my suggestion box. I'm so glad I clicked on this video and cannot wait to watch all your other content.
So Prometheus was just a shite ripoff of this? Good job, Damon Lindelof :P
Prometheus is why Guillermo del Toro put his adaptation of this story on indefinite hold. The two stories were too similar and del Toro didn't want to deal w/ making the same movie as someone else. It's a shame, as I'm pretty sure his adaptation of At the Mountains of Madness would have been miles above Prometheus.
Prometheus and Aline Vs Predator "borrow" from this story. If you put the two together you get a rough outline of it.
Ridley Scott is known for this, like how Gladiator is based on Spartacus. Then again a lot of stories "borrow" from others. Hunger Games also takes a lot from Spartacus, but also Uglies by Scott Westerfeld and the legend of Theseus and the Minotaur.
prometheus, avp and thing are inspired from this movie.
poporopo913 The hunger games is pretty much the running man
Ricky Cross Or Battle Royale -Art and +mainstream-appeal.
Love your channel! Found you through H.P. Lovecraft and couldn’t be happier
"Lovecraft! Naw mean?"
Nice!
Immensely entertaining and informative analysis! I bought Lovecraft's Complete Fiction early last week, and I'm reading all of the stories pertaining to the Cthulhu Mythos. I've read The Call of Cthulhu and The Dunwich Horror so far, with At The Mountains of Madness in queue! I'm ashamed that I put off reading Lovecraft, because these tales are absolutely awesome and terrifying! I'm hoping that you'll cover the Cthulhu Mythos and stories in full for some of your videos in the near future; possibly for Halloween! Thank you for the stellar content!
2:35 I have a feeling that's your natural voice. Much clearer. I know roughening up your voice is a part of the shtick and gimmick of this series, and I understand how you can't really change things now, but personally, I prefer this over the voice you usually use. Less grating, less sounding like someone stuck your poor vocal chords through a cheese grater.
It's not "shtick and gimmick"; it's the role he's playing. Don't you think some of those crazy things he says would sound strange coming from a more normal voice?
Snuggles McSquishbottom Po-tay-to, Po-tah-to. I call it a schtick, you call it a role. And yes, actually. Plenty of hardcore born on the streets thugs don't talk raspy. They effect a slang, a dialect, a drawl, but raspyness isn't one of them.
Son of Nahuatl Oh, I see. So, in order for me to understand something, I actually have to live it. I can't see it, read it, or watch it. Well, if that is the requirement for understanding, then I guess, for example, you wouldn't know a damn thing about, say, slavery, since you've never been a slave.
+infernocanuck Leave it to a white boy to get defensive and instinctively fall back to slavery as a point.
***** Huh? Your little dig at me doesn't make any sense! At least in the states, it was freaking white people who did the enslaving! So, you would think that I wouldn't want to "fall back" to slavery as a point considering how shameful it is. My point stands. People can have an opinion on something, have knowledge about something, without actually having to experience it firsthand. So, you got a counterargument there, chum, or are you going to try and level more awkward racist crap at me?
This is the greatest RUclips series I've ever seen. I'm laughing and I'm learning.
I know this is a short story, but can you do 'The Call if Cthulhu'?
MrRenegadeshinobi I would rather he do The Shadow Out of Time.
Yo In his crib at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming Ya' know what I'm sayin'?
Omg this is awesome! You totally need to do an audio book, you have the perfect voice for it.
Lovecraft?? Hell yeah!!!!
"Elder Playas" is now an official part of my lexicon. Bravo, good sir! The day is yours!
John Oliver was right, don't visit Antartica
Unless you are a C'thulu worshiper !
@@VinnyDaQ Well, technically, the Old Ones who built the Antartican city were no "Cthulu spawn", as Lovecraft put it. They actually fought the Cthulu spawn in a war and Lovecraft made clear these were different beings, calling the Cthulu spawn "Another race". It's in chapter 7 of Mountains of Madness, on about the 5th page.
I am so glad that H.P lovecraft is finally being recognized for his amazing writing with crazy details.
whats with the rebranding?
Magmus I'm expanding beyond literature and launching new shows... Thug Notes ain't goin' nowhere...just want a name that can go beyond books...
Wisecrack Well, just so you know Thug Notes holds it down mighty well. 8-bit Philosophy, love it. I can't wait for the new shows that are on the horizon :).
+Wisecrack So is there a different person who replies to comments depending on what your watching?
+The Phantom of the Paradise I want to know this answer too??
+Wisecrack Just found you, this is awesome! Fucking great, funny, and turn people on to books they might not have read before.
Man, I do miss thug notes, but I hope that he's gone on to bigger and better things.
I really love H.P. Lovecraft
Wisecrack! You are awesome, keep up the good work!
Non-Euclidean geometry.
I think my favorite line in all of Lovecraft was in Call of Cthulhu, where the ship sustained damage because it crashed into an angle "that looked acute, but acted as though it were obtuse," or something to that extent. Man, that is genius.
Lotus Prince "That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die" - Abdul Alhazred, The Nameless City
Best Lovecraft quote imo
Yeah Lovecraft was a racist who didn't understand math lol
@@paulmccollum8954 - HIs stories are chock full of science and scientific concepts. R'lyeh is truly alien to this world, a reflection of the plane from which its builders originated, and thus impossible to adequately describe in any human language.
PUH-TO-THE-PLEASE keep 'em coming Wisecrack! I REALLY enjoy what you're doing with THUG NOTES. I'm so glad you did " A Wrinkle in Time!" I met Madeleine and she was straight up COOL! I Love your show, and it speaks to me, as I'm sure many others.
Peace.
I just found my new favorite thing to watch lol
this is hillariously awesome.
Would you review angels and demons or the da vinci code?
They're almost the same exact book. So is Digital Fortress, actually. :-P
That's why I said "or".
Isn't the point to review CLASSIC books? Not poorly-written tripe?
James O'Blivion Except that "classic" books were once considered as poorly-written tripe by people like you. Nice try.
Desdemona People like me? Wow...I didn't realize we knew each other. If by "people like me," you mean people who can't get very far in books that feature hilariously incompetent prose, then I suppose that's fair enough. And of course, many classics were viewed as important, substantial, and well-written in their own time, so your statement is a poor generalization. Nice try, as you would say to "people like me."
At any rate, there is no valid argument that The Da Vinci Code is classic literature, so again, this is not a reasonable request.
Possibly your best video yet!
Curiosity most certainly did kill one of those cats. Killed a whole camp full of 'em! And a whole species of crazy shit before them!
Curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back.
OK I have to say that I love most of the books you have done this with including this one. I also have to say I love it man! The comedy that you infuse into your reviews is awesome and your review are insightful! Keep it up!
I would love a thugnotes on Faust (part 1 and 2) by Goethe
This is AWESOME. Thanks for sharing it.
Lovecraft gave new meaning to disturbing.
Well done as always! Can't wait for next weeks episode.
Lovecraft has some damn good vocabulary.
Nice! So entertaining, yet such an in depth break down! I loved at the mountains of madness! I can hardly wait to see your other videos!
PRAISE BE C'THULU
Cthulhu*
Clulu Clooloo Cthulhu C'thulhu Cighulu Cathulu C'thlu Cuitiliú Cqulu Kathulu Kutulu Kthulhu K'tulu Kthulhut Kutu Kulhu Ktulu Kutunluu Q'thulu Tulu ThuThu. . .
Fhtagn.
PRAISE BE FHTAGN!
praise be, praise be
+CCTV9 Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fthagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
How am I just finding these now! These are Amaz-K! This is possibly my favorite HP story! & this is the most accurate & well put together synopsizes I've ever seen!
yo, Mr. Lovecraft was badass! Loved this episode XD
I am so happy I found this channel....oh my god.
I haven't laughed and been enraptured so well in a long time.
This has got to be the best way to review and analyze a story.
KEEP IT UP MY MAN XD
Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" sure has some crazy shit to talk about ^_^
Damian Reloaded I agree. You should do "the dark tower."
Best review of At the mountains of madness ever!
please do pickman's model & cool air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude! Brilliant way to bring people into classic literature. Plus, I think you may be the only brother to tackle Lovecraft. I concur with retsz. Do you thang my dude!
fucking finally, ive been suggesting lovecraft since the first episode lol
Glad too see u back at it thug, live on
Bloodborne comes to mind for some reason
keith8880 because Miyazaki took direct inspiration from Lovecraft's work.
Very well done!! Can't wait to see you do more Lovecraft.
MORE H.P LOVECRAFT
Laying it thick with mad smarts, dude. Word!
Now everybody roll your willpower save.
*grumblegrumblelawngnomesgrumble*
Ha ha, I'm a Halfling, can reroll if it's a "1", and have advantage on saves against being frightened, and I took the Lucky Feat! #ShouldHavePickedHalfling
Hands down best thing on the internet THUG NOTES!!
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you are so well spoken and yet so good at doing the gangsta voice