Forest Fair Mall Pt. II | a dead mall at night in Cincinnati | ExLog 31|Rated-R:Spiders and Language
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In the 31st Episode of the Expedition Log Series, we revisit the Forest Fair Mall for a nighttime excursion into the depths of this mammoth beast of a mall. Come take a walk with me, Ron and Kristin of Unicomm productions in the Part II, and finale to Forest Fair Mall.
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I’ve got a lot of good memories of this mall when Time out on the Court was downstairs, hanging out in the food court as a teen. Now I take my kids there to run around in the winter when it’s to cold for the park. They can run all there energy out and never disturb a soul in the 1.5 mil sq ft playground lol
giant indoor playground is a good idea.
I'm amazed the entire mall is completely accessible so late at night. Even with the arcade open I'd think they'd section off the rest of the place from a security standpoint. Like Sal said you never know what is around the corner...
I guess there is just not much left for them to care about, plus it gives the security guard something to do.
Back in the day it had a variety of bars and restaurants. In the nineties it was the nightspot. It was a gorgeous behemoth. My brother was one of the builders. Sad to see it graffitied dark and vacant
No, Sal likely arranged this beforehand with mall security.
She said, “hot, steamin’ cup o’nope”! I am dyin’! 🤣🤣🤣
Pretty much my favorite thing on the internets last year, that comment.
Can they turn dead malls into film studios or use them for movies?? Or how about into amusement complexes? Go kart racing, indoor mini golf, rock climbing etc...
A part of Century III Mall was recently used for Mindhunter. Before that, She's Out of My League was filmed in the food court.
As of October 2019, the spooky security car has been removed. I miss that car.
Oh god original Ronald McDonald is scarier than the mall at night.
This is my favorite dead mall.. the absurdity of the size, the decor, the fact that its a nice mall on some level and started failing before it began.. i cant look away, its like a car accident.
Damn, that garage was creepy in the dark in 1993 when there were customers. I can't imagine what it's like these days.
Pitch black. Pure black. Nothing.
How many malls are going to look like this when jcpenney goes under. Also there no way I’d pay double digit figures for the mall especially with the millions of dolllars you’ll need for repairs.
Cindy Klenk The only way to take the steam out of Amazon would be to end their generous tax breaks, but they already have seen this occur and they have a solution to salvage themselves: relocate their distribution centres to other countries that have corrupt governments that are thrilled for their improvements on their usually non-existent infrastructure that retains the bare minimum of regulations regarding safety and environmental protections, and buy off the political elite in order to get away with wages that are not even close to a minimum wage for the employees of the region.
In these countries people will do anything to survive, even when survival is a loosely defined and deflationary bidding war. Initially they set up shop in the business district for their customer support via email, chat and phone support. The buildings have an image of success for the country, with wages of the college-educated providing earnings that for the majority of their nation appears to be a dream come true, and this assures the political elite continued dominance. However they quietly open up the sweatshops and distribution centres that are horrendous, cheap as chips to locate a deserted former factory or building distribution centres the size of Cincinnati Mall, with lower health and safety standards and focus their inflated costs to build on the construction of their internet and telecommunications infrastructure that is built just for their own structures, and protections for the employees in these facilities would never receive permission to purchase the land, let alone hire employees.
I’m in the UK, so I don’t know if America has seen this political bribery, but we are struggling to end the Working Tax Credit System. What WTC does for the Middle and Lower Class workers on the WRAG (Work Related Activities Group) or for those that are legally working but falling below the already weighted down Government’s Cost Of Living figures are given a Government Benefit that provides the worker money from the taxpayers to the workers wages, so a deception is created and the Corporation begins its exploration of alternative and far more lucrative locations for returns.
In other words the Corporation is receiving another tax cut by paying their employees a top-up that the Corrupted Government Representatives that receive bribes hides it in Legislation suggested by the PR for these Corporations, allowing them to say during Election Campaigns that Employment is at an all time high. It is very rarely discussed. If someone writes about it or a news programme mentions it almost every time they either let time cover up the facts; claim that it’s fake in order to buy enough time for the country to remember it; the Corporation is given a pathetic slap on the face with velvet gloves or the Tipping Point happens when the Corporation is fined and some of it’s Cuts are removed. Then the Corporation declares Chapter 7, which allows them to sack employees, they close locations and pay more for less. That’s not attractive to most, so they Fire Sale their assets and announce massive closures or even remove their presence from an entire country in lieu of a better return on investment (ROI) and move to locations where overhead, safety, employees’ healthcare and pensions are repressed or eliminated completely. And the building where they started off as Superstars is used in a limited capacity or is closed completely, as we see here at Cincinnati Mall.
What an Experiment!
@Cindy Klenk I think you mean Jeff Bezos, he's the CEO of Amazon. Zuckerberg is Facebook.
@Cindy Klenk honestly these old malls would be great skateparks.
@@garygansbrubaker: wow: you know your stuff.
Dead malls at night. Where all your dreams and nightmares collide.
I enjoyed the Orson Welles War of the Worlds broadcast in the background.
Great video! I laughed a few times "those doors are possessed." 😆🤣 But yeah, malls get spooky after dark. I used to work in one and after everything was closed I just wanted to get out of there STAT! Keep up the good work!
Funny, but 2 years back during the winter, some water pipes burst, & flooded that garage entrance where you started out. That security vehicle, has been there forever!
I really enjoyed this two-part series. I live in the area and used to go to this mall, especially when it was Cincinnati Mills and they had a lot of outlet stores. My favorites were Wilsons Leather Outlet and Steve & Barry's. I stopped going when it got to the point that fewer stores were in the mall and it felt unsafe because of how empty it was.
This mall never worked because of where it's located. There are two other malls just a few miles away, right off the same freeway, I-275. Both of those malls are also struggling at this point, but historically they were doing better for longer. There are also a couple of strip malls at the same exit across the freeway that seem to be doing okay. And at this point, the popular shopping spots are in West Chester, Monroe (both outdoor shopping/lifestyle centers), also Kenwood, and to some degree Florence, KY (both indoor malls).
Forest Fair never stood a chance.
Both this mall and Tri-County Mall are gone now. Of the three 275 malls, Northgate Mall is the only one left. And it's not far behind suffering the same fate both Tri-County and Forest Fair suffered.
I've only watched two of you're video's. And they remind me of the Dan Bell dead mall vids and this makes me happy! Im hooked!
Lots more on the way :)
Fantastic! Keep em coming!!
@@sal I think this video kinda reminds me of Dan Bell's "Neon Dreams" video--minus the vaporwave music!
I love Dan, but I have tried distancing myself from his style in a big way. I appreciate that though :)
@@sal No problem!
I find it interesting that someone is still paying the electric bill
As do I sir...
I'm wondering bout how much that bill would be each month
@Tom Johnson I would think it be more than that it's a big place
Financial firms buy it and write it off as tax write off from what I’m told.
This mall looks very much like the Colorado Mills Mall, which was closed for damn near a year after a huge hail storm damaged the building and was flooded by the accompanying heavy rain.
Wow, just open to midnight for an arcade. So much space, so much lost history.
Sal - I notice you visit some malls multiple times looking at various degrees of decay. Would be interesting to see split screens of the same angles over time. Sounds like a pain to edit, but I think it might look cool.
Simple to edit, but a pain to plan and visit...amazing idea though, I’ll look into it!
"That's a hot steaming cup o' nope." 😂😂😂
Lololol
I worked in the is particular mall during Phase I at Time Out. We were open late and I can tell you every employee knew the place was haunted so being in there at night was always a creepy time. The mall was big back in those days and a great first job out of high school but it died quickly. The good old days
14:16 always go deadmalling with a locksmith 😂
Wow. That was spooky. Must be a good arcade to keep it open that late. Thank you for the great video.
This is very creepy for sure. Never have I seen Malls this dead silent, nobody around. Pure nightmare fuel, it's so big and spacious yet. It's colourfulness adds to it's terrifying vibe. Great job, Sal.
Excellent video! I really enjoy the history you provide in your videos..... adds so much to the content!
Thank you, Janet!
It’s weird thinking that security car is just there abandoned for ten years. You’d think at a bare minimum the company that owns it would have sold it when they no longer needed it or a manager would have taken it. To just leave it there to rot seems frivolous. And heaven knows how long that mirror has been busted off. But there’s always the possibility that the business that owned it and is responsible for it no longer exists.
Then again it IS a Ford. Found on road dead. Fix or repair daily. Hell, they should have junked it.
And after ten years that registration plate has been reassigned.
But I digress, dude you are either super brave or freaking crazy. I would never go to a dead mall at night
If Auntie Ann's leaves, you know you're in trouble
Someone go to 4:33 and tell me you don’t hear a voice whispering “get out”
I heard it. Very slow and drawn out.
I heard it. that's wack
I heard it..
When I was younger this mall was actually cool with the original time out arcade and movie theaters. Even when they had that club at the top of the building. I had so many dates there as a teen lol. It's a shame how they let that place fall apart.
Cathrenee Waters holy crap! Fancy seeing you here! What’s up long lost sis?
The announcer on the McD's ad is Willard's radio partner in Washington, DC, Ed Walker (RIP). Willard and Ed were known as the "Joy Boys" on WRC radio, and Willard was the local Bozo on WRC-TV channel 4 - which is how he came to be recruited for the Ronald character.
I'm glad they changed him later on to the Ronald we know today, because the original design was just laughably cheap, and creep all at the same time.
Hi sal, would just like to say I am loving your vlogs. I think I find them fascinating due to I have experienced redundancy at what once was the largest car making firm in the UK. Your videos show that nothing lasts forever and how quickly business/life can go bad. Keep up the great work, all the best from the UK.
Thanks Colin!! New video tonight!!
Love the creepy, abandoned ascetic of this place! I've been looking for an excuse to go to Ohio just to explore this mall!
Check this one out, then go 15min SE and checkout Kenwood mall for contrast lol, a ridiculously high-end and jam-packed CIncinnati mall.
(Theres a cool maintenance hallway close to the movie theater that you didn't go in, but this was still really cool to see at night) I really old memories of this place from when I was a little kid, and seeing it always feels so surreal.
...I need to get in this hallway.
UniComm Productions I made a video of it on my second channel:
ruclips.net/video/n6dJ4Lus6S8/видео.html
Part 1 was some of your best work. Can’t wait to have the time to watch part 2
Then why are you commenting. This is part II.
I watched the daytime exploration you did and watching the night time one, I started to think that it can be a location for science fiction movies, it looks like the inside of a space station; I watched the series: The expanse and it sorts of look like it. It is great to see a mal with lights on and a minimum of care; it is not trashed and the lawn is still cut. It deserves praise for this at least. I would say it is like walking into a museum, or a modern art exhibit t.,it is a museum of mall architecture. Thank you for the great work showing it and researching the history, you're a curator of mall artefacts.
OMG! It would be so funny to scare people exploring the mall at night. 🤣
Love the way you hold the camera at wheel chair hight, now i can enlarge the screen and kid myself its me exploring, ducking n diving lol
i hope this place survives. so much potential in such a big building
You know your Mall is doomed when Mall Historian RUclipsrs show up...
This mall really is amazing, your video captured areas that most people aren't willing to go, so thanks!
Imagine bumping into Ronald McDonald or seeing him running towards you from the end of a dimly lit service corridor. At night. Far worse than a tiny spider.
My 1st nightclub experience was at Bourbon Street in the Forest Fair Mall. The year was 1996
Your videos are outstanding! Keep up the good work.
As Sal and his friends open the door their not entering the Massive Mall like they think , they have just entered The Twilight Zone lol you sound just like the host of that show but I’m sure you’ve been told that before lol loving this Second Part !!!
I love this channel much more than the proper people.
Hey thanks!
Congrats on 10k! Well-deserved!
I gotta see this mall before its gone. Awesome mall!
THE REAL DAWN OF THE DEAD!! 🧟♀️🧟♂️🙀
I'm so depressed by these videos. I grew up going to Forest Fair Mall in the 90s and early 2000s.
I'm really enjoying your expeditions and I just recently came across your channel. If you would like any suggestions, there is a Mall in Cleveland TN that I came across on a drive a couple years ago called Bradley Square Mall. While I was there it was still in operation but not more than 30 people there, many stores were empty and the only ones I saw were a jewelry store, game store, a little bounce house place for kids, Lazer tag and a beautiful cinema. The employees I talked to said that business like the Lazer tag and kids place only last about a month and they are gone and they said the mall was dying a slow death. To my knowledge it's still open, but that's just from searching Google as I haven't been back. Another one that is dying out is Knoxville Center Mall also in TN. I have watched it dwindle away over the years and have seen it in its prime. I have heard that someone had purchased it and was attempting to bring it back to life, much like the mall we had in Oak Ridge which was demolished and rebuilt as a strip mall (I had the pleasure of walking around it many times before it did, even as a child that mall was almost dead with only a Petros, Dollar General, Belk and JC Penney.), but I have seen nothing to support that. I apologize for rambling on lol I just genuinely enjoy urban exploration, especially Malls and get excited when someone is able to capture it all before it's gone. Thank you for what you do and sharing these places of beauty! It is most appreciated.
First! Great to be actually first on one of your videos, Sal. I really enjoyed this Cincinnati Mills series. This also reminds me of Dan Bell's work. Your videos are so super in quality! I'm quite sure he will be watching this video! Thanks for all your efforts!
I wish Dan Bell did as many vids nowadays, that were like his older videos. His newer ones(hate to say it) don't strike me to the great extent, his older ones had that awesome feel to them. Not sure why. Maybe one day, he'll get back into doing such vids again?
@@BoratWanksta feel exactly the same. I'm glad I just found this channel
Love the old ads playing in the background, the gameboy one being my favorite..right after you spoke of your impending doom. 16:02 to 16:45.
thanks for the great explore and and the info / homework youve done , sad none of these out fits could make it work , keep up the good work , very cool.
You mentioned that an arcade was still running in the mall. Why didn't you show it? I would've loved to see if it were a REAL old school type of arcade, or a ticket winning quarter muncher of lame prize games. Seeing an old school arcade still in operation would've been as much of a blast to the past than the mall.
I’m going back in May to film the whole Arcade! Stay tuned :)
Wow I came to ur Part 2 right away.
I remember the huge indoor gulf course and fairs wheel and the sand box I grew up in the 80’s I loved timeout the movie theater with the pulsating lights you could see for a dollar. note want to see a dyeing mall close by tri county mall is getting there.
Your production of videos is excellent and information is so interesting. Such a beautiful mall in such a sad state.
Is that war of the worlds?
Really given the size and parking the best purpose i think of is housing. Keep the food court and a few shops, neighborhoods A and B could legit be neighborhoods. Add a playground and a gym all inside.
I'm currently looking for donations to make the necessary 55 million dollars.
You win!! Good ears!!! You’re the first to notice it! Also, I put his “apology” at the end :)
@@sal I noticed orson at the end. Good show, too many spiders tho. lol
Lolol just...no. No spiders. The mall needs to be demolished because of the spiders.
LMAO!!! "Thats a hot steaming cup of Nope" @6:23
'Cincinatti killer spiders' lmao. Great video :)
The whole 🕷thing, I'm right here with you, Sal🤬
hey bud just wondering if you heard a disembodied voice at 4:33. defiantly something. either its that girl thats with you guys or a spirit looking for her car
Nice catch. I heard it too. Spooky.
Hey Sal, been enjoying your channel for a while now. It's funny you called this place in Cincinnati haunted. Go to back to this video, and at about 4:32, when you guys are walking through the garage, see if you hear a whisper that says "get out" or something phonically similar. I ran it back several times, its like an EVP but I heard it with the naked ear. Right after you were asked "Did you see something" and you said "I thought I did." You will hear it better with a good pair of headphones or earbuds etc. Keep it up man.
Woah wtf
Gorgeous spiders. You should be glad they're around; they add to the ecosystem and rid your air of pests. Garden spiders are one of my favorite species.
An awesome, and sad place all at the same time.
Good video! I laughed when you said anything could be lerking twice it gave it more a creepy vibe
Awesome looking 🕷 🕸.
What was that "Due to unforeseen circumstances we are unable to continue with our broadcast." It sounds like something I heard in the first Panic at the Disco album.
12:00 if im correct, the place youre walking in is larger than 1.5m square feet. The 1.5 million is the retail alone (stores, anchors, etc.) So the indoor section itself is around 200k-300k square feeta added to the size.
I remember the movies that had the flashing lights in the front. They caused kids to go into seizures. If it were my place I'd probably secure it and make a large indoor medical pot farm.
My daughter works in marketing for Simon Properties in Indianapolis. I told her to pitch this mall as a giant skate park with all that floor space, you could even have races from one side to the other.
Great Video. Loved seeing the mall at night. You rock Sal,
Thanks Kevin...you rock too :)
“Oh oh I’m not scared…..we just need to stay close together for safety….yeah safety…”
See’s spider: “I’M OUT!! ITS EVERY MAN FOR HIMSEEEEELLLFFFF!!!”
The spider wanted to kill me.
I adored that place as a teenager :(
Congratulations on 10k subscribers. I think you were at only 2-3k when I discovered your work. Keep up the great work and be sure to have fun doing it.
Thank you!!!
I greatly appreciate your demeanor in your videos. I love this video genre, but there are a lot of goofballs who sound like 3 year olds who spend most of the time amusing themselves with sound effects. Your adventures have been great fun!
Don't judge them Spiderbros. They're just minding his own business in their little home.
Yeah man they just be chilling, and be like don't bother me man, and I won't bother you.
Vinesauce Obscurities I'd be attacking someone too if a big human had a brite ass light shining on me lol.
Very nice look , really looked cool at night, and them spiders tho wow, Big 👍
I was looking forward to this video since last week
Ah, those are harmeless spiders, only danger is walking into their webs, they stay put unlike other creepy crawlies
I would turn it into an indoor community. Put in a bunch of condos, a supermarket, a bank, retail stores, a park area on the roof for picnics, proper bars, an amusement park, and then it will be a self contained town with proper security. Someone needs to do that fast before the place becomes structurally unsafe. At least it's not beyond repair...yet.
Gustave Frankfurter unfortunately it is in one of the poorest suburbs of Cincinnati. There is a mall 20 minutes away in kenwood, which is a pricey area and they have opened gigantic shopping outlets in Monroe, about 20 minutes north. There unfortunately just isn’t the money in this area to support much of anything anymore. And it’s a high crime area right off of an extremely congested section of highway. I agree with you tho that it’s sad to watch such a giant structure fall into disrepair.
Congratulations on reaching the 10,000 mark!
I was curious who was responsible for all the theming, and now that you've said it was the Mills Corporation, it makes a ton of sense why this mall reminds me so much of the former St. Louis Mills (now St. Louis Outlet Mall, although it's 92% vacant). It's also themed out in an OTT way, and was also sold to Simon Properties. And it was also WAY too large for the area it was in. St. Louis Mills has an ice rink, LOL. It also had a go-cart track, indoor skate park, and a mini golf place. They are literally twins of each other, except that St. Louis Mills was built all on one level. It's now going to be repurposed as a Sports Complex, so at least it's not going to waste like this one is. Hopefully they can come up with some sort of plan for Forest Fair!
Such a weird place ! so big ! i wish i could see this in person. Great video as always Sal ! cheers :)
As always, ❤️ your video! So spooky at night! Great job Sal!
Y'all have balls of steel playing in a dark, empty, graffiti'd parking garage at midnight in Cincinnati
Yeah I’d be so scared in that mall in the dark.
What seems interesting is the location for such a mall. Ohio seems like a largely obscure place for such activity. I have heard people describe Ohio as poor and bland, with nothing to really offer. On the other hand, I am not surprised with malls closing due to the online marketplace. I live in Minneapolis, MN, and very close to the Mall of America in Bloomington, and Southdale Center in Edina. I would actually be surprised if either of these malls closed, particularly Mall of America.
those two orbweavers outside the building are really really pretty! though I would not want them in my house.
Damn, the DDR machine at 21:30 just sitting there not plugged in gave me feels. That's many hours of my teenage years. Would love to have it for myself, but I'm in Australia.
Speaking of Australia, does anyone know what kind of spiders they were in the video? Australian spiders would call them "snacks", but what's the human name for them?
Ah yes orb web spiders. They only come out at night and love to build their webs where you'll run into them. Around here it's "kill on sight".
(not afraid of spiders, but in my case some are ok, others die).
I ALMOST DIED CAUSE OF A CINCINNATI KILLER SPIDER!!!! (LOLOLOLOL) ...He was just saying hello.
Thank you again for bringing us along for this. Awesome treatment of the subject matter.
First up, them poor lil orb weavers won't hurt you. Bite like a minor bee sting and you'd have to try to get bit at that. Anyhoo... I find it so odd that there are so many malls in the USA that are just failing or abandoned. Never seen that here in Aus. Even most of our least busy malls in poorer areas have the majority of tenancies occupied. A mall like this in a similar location would thrive in Aus. We have several of similar (and larger) and all doing great. Is it just poor management or is it to do with the GFC (we had almost zero crisis here compared with y'all). Also, never seen buildings so big sitting vacant for so long as some of your abandoned malls do. We'd either repurpose it or knock it down and do something else with the space. It wouldn't sit there for years on end. Or at least, I haven't seen that done yet. 😜
Same situation as abandoned theaters and cinemas - in the US they seem to sit derelict for decades - some for nearly 100 years!! in other parts of the world including as you say Australia - these sites are demolished quick smart and the land used for something else. There must be something about the way US property taxes or laws work that allows or causes this to happen.
@@rainscratch Thanks for responding! Property laws makes sense. I guess technically everything here is "crown land" or more accurately "commonwealth land". So they probably have the right to intervene if it goes unused? I'll have to look into it. The closest example I remember was our local open air mall. Council sold it to a Singaporean firm who upped rent till no one could pay. So they bought it back and refurbished it and now its a thriving location. But it was fairly dead for a good few years. Lotsa townies. 🤣🤣 Anyway, got a bit of research to do.
i can just see sombody come running out of the dark in the parking structure. dawn of the dead baby.
I think spiders are totally cool! 8 lovely eyes! I really like them! On the other hand my wife is FAR more afraid of them then you seem to be!
"Killer Cinicinati Spiders" Guffaw-guffaw-guffaw! Those spiders are wee babies compared to some of monster Wolf spiders I've encountered in New York.
I’m never stepping foot in the state of New York again.
Christ, they should have called it 'Mirkwood Forest Fair Mall', lol
They should turn it into condos or apartments. I’ve seen other dying malls that have done that.
Wow Sal....you braved it way better than I would of been able to handle. I would rather get into a fist fight with a big stronger person than be around those spiders. Another instant classic Sal...much love brotha!
Love the War of the Worlds soundtrack soaked in reverb. Malls just don't meet the current year's idea of shopping. I lived in a couple in my youth (Cherry Hill, Echelon, and Deptford malls in New Jersey in the 80s) but that was then and this is now. The Intertubes killed them off.
I think also the economy is also to blame for most of it. Also related to the whole internet killing malls and any form of retail alike; I think it's more of people being TOO DAMN LAZY to go out and shop or even do anything! They just all wanna stay home all day and all night probably wanting to only jack-off to pronno until they have a heartattack and possibly die from it! A sad insight into modern day American society... No wonder why obesity is a major problem compared to anywhere else!
@@NathanDavisVideos I don't know I live in S. Carolina, and the parking lots of stores are always full, it's not that people don't want to get out, it's just people want their stuff, and want it cheap like Walmart, Dollar General, Target, TJMaxx, etc.. cheap, or when they buy online eBay, and Amazon cheap, and most malls just can't compete.
you need to join a ghost hunting crew so you get over your fear of going to dark places at night, at least you had a light