Ive never been able to tell if Autechre is carefully constructed complex rhythems with 64s and nested tuplets, or if it's just haphazardly made with trial and error until they're like, Bloody hell, play that one again! Or both XD
Both, that's what sets them apart. They have the vision and also the ability to go off script when something unexpected happens to reign in the magical details that vision will leave behind
@@curvcaten888 yeah, based on interviews it seems more like experimentation until it sounds good. like, maybe there's a general idea beforehand, but a lot is left up to the process
saw them live in 2008 in @ the black cat in D.C. it was amazing. the BPM was a bit lower than this but its great to finally hear a clean version there set again :)
This is one of my favourite eras of Autechre's music. I saw them in Nottingham play a similar set touring Untilted and it blew my swede. If I remember right they were using an Elektron Machinedrum, Elektron Monomachine and an Akai MPC1000. Great memories, thanks!
Hey, very many thanks for sharing this. I only recently got a Digitakt. I figured someone in my genre of taste would have used Elektron at some point. Really floored to see Autechre was one of them but it explains a lot given they’re style that it would be a natural conclusion. Cool to hear some music of theirs that wasn’t on an album too!
This may be a shot in the dark, but it looks like most of the sequences have a 32 step length? Just got the Md SPS-1UW and I'm wondering how much I'm missing from this patches, since they were made on the MKII machines
Looking at the sysex data from the MM, the effect is achieved by using the RAM machine capturing sounds in real-time. The sample is played back in reverse, using a short retrig time and pitched all the way up. Seems like a random effect by trial-and-error, but sounds cool.
Fantastic to hear! I've loved the 2008 set the most until 2014 and the recording I have isn't very clear so this was wonderful to hear clearly. many thanks for uploading, much appreciated
Pretty sure if you listen to live performances from that time the beats are more varied. I wonder if they had some max stuff hooked up either in the midi chain or just doing buffering type effects on the audio coming out. This is just a bunch of loops with surprisingly little or no probability/conditional-trig stuff going on in any given loop.
I feel like they also had a nord modular as part of this setup. Ages ago someone posted an overhead shot and pretty sure one of them manned the elektrons, and the other the nord.
@@rpaulseymourone manned the two Elektrons (Monomachine and Machinedrum), the other had the MPC1000, a Nord Modular G2 engine, and I think a Bitstream midi controller. The Elektrons were mainly independent together, and the Nord was being played by the MPC along with some midi control of both from the controller. Based on the patches, the Nord was just a synth box, nothing crazy or remarkable. 3 Oscillator patches, the most wild thing in there being a modulation sequence that was triggered via clock. Even the stuff on the Machinedrum was pretty tame. Nothing really using the UW stuff unless they did that live. All pretty basic stuff, some complex modulation and a few layered sounds but that’s it. There was no Max involved as far as I can tell or have read, and no probability for anything. Just good old fashioned sequencing and sound designing. There’s no magic to it, they’re just really fucking good.
Yeah! I think the monomachine is lower on volume cause it was intended to go thru the mpc according to their official technical notes. MD goes straight to the mix!
@@shirishsarkar yes of course. The +drive is just for storing snapshots of the entire machine, but on a plain mkII you always have 8 banks * 16 patterns * 64 steps each.
è tutto il contenuto dei sysex, non ne esiste una seconda metà, temp (anche perchè i banchi della md e della mono sono PIENISSIMI). A occhio e croce ti direi che la seconda metà che manca è quella di Rob Brown :)
@@buromaschinen ah! probabilmente i pattern sono tutti concentrati in questi 36 minuti, dal vivo portavano la durata a un'ora, un'ora e qualcosa: in questa versione lasciataci (stando a quel che ho capito, ogni parametro è preimpostato, dunque, se non si interviene, quello che ascoltiamo è esattamente quanto Booth e Brown hanno previsto), la chiusura avviene sul tappeto di cassa, che nel live (prendo qui ad esempio la data di toronto) irrompeva a circa metà, definendo forse l'acme dell'"avventura": ruclips.net/video/YxkV7zLqZYk/видео.html ...ad ogni modo, grazie davvero per il video, non esagero nel parlare di catarsi ;)
intervengo in tempo reale: sul sito AE_STORE stanno venendo caricati nuovi file nascosti: autechre.bleepstores.com ...i trattini in fondo - ...ci siamo, non è finita
per altro, mi sono accorto che i patterns, in effetti, ci sono tutti, solo nel video si ripropone una parte sulla chiusura. Grande attesa per una versione che integri i nuovi file...
Its a bit late. But basially Autechre (for a while) posted the files for the Machinedrum so you basically had all the files they used on your machine and could go from there
Hey! No problem. Autechre released the project files for their 2 Elektron boxes driven live set from 2008 (Machinedrum and Monomachine, a drum machine and a synthesizer, both with advanced sequencing capabilities). A project file ("sysex" file) holds all the information to configure both machines to perform the exact sequences and sounds Autechre created in their studio. I happen to have exactly those two Elektron boxes in my studio so I could reproduce a fairly similar performance to the real thing (some other gear is missing, MPC and Nord Modular if I recall correctly). I just loaded the project files, configured and synchronized the machines and launched every pattern / sound they contained. So it's no samples, just pure synthesis and melodies designed by my favourite music artists out there :) Hope this helps.
@@JasonBoon02 they’re quite expensive as they’ve been discontinued for a while and bc of their sort of cult following due to artists like sophie and ae using them. i can’t comment on difficulty of mastering them bc i don’t own them but pretty much any new piece of gear you get is going to have some amount of learning curve no matter what. elektron boxes are super in depth and provide a lot of parameters for you to control, which definitely could seem daunting at first. idk if you know someone that owns a monomachine/machinedrum then i would see if you could try them out before you buy and see how you enjoy the workflow
Elektron silver machines store their patches inside patterns. They unextricably linked. So if you enable prgchange and transport out on your master machine, pattern and patch will change in the slave one as well. Of course it only works If patterns are written in a 1:1 fashion (a1 on the MD goes with 1:1 a1 on the mono).
nah there's re-sampling and shit, and also supposed to be real-time sampling input from the Monomachine as well. and there's a kit in there that references a user ROM file that I don't have.. or doesn't seem to be included in their live set export.
Stands for "System Exclusive". It's a special midi message type that can be used in several ways. In this case it's used for a total backup/recall of the two machines states, including sequencing data and automations, of course.
As I wrote in the description I just sticked to the BPM in the sysex songmode. No intention to copy the original live which has, as we discovered later in the setlist rtf, different BPM for each track. Anyway thanks for pointing that out :)
some people just have their gear to shine in their studio. Its never the people who buy screensavers for their synths and drum machines who use them the most.. trust
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@@buromaschinen importante anche per noi: è infatti ragionevole sospettare vi siano altri 225 droni in arrivo, senza considerare che proprio in questo istante ne stanno comparendo di nuovi... o__O
Is that cover up all over your mono machine? What happened? Lol if you tell me that you slapped a chick with your mono machine I’m going to die laughing.
MarkOfTheNorth just depends on what you like. I enjoy sound design and just hearing AE’s sound coming from an Elektron device after recently acquiring my own is inspiring, regardless of whether it’s considered compositionally competent. Plus it’s a treasure trove of samples!
Ive never been able to tell if Autechre is carefully constructed complex rhythems with 64s and nested tuplets, or if it's just haphazardly made with trial and error until they're like, Bloody hell, play that one again! Or both XD
Gotta be more of the latter 😂
Both, that's what sets them apart. They have the vision and also the ability to go off script when something unexpected happens to reign in the magical details that vision will leave behind
@@curvcaten888 yeah, based on interviews it seems more like experimentation until it sounds good. like, maybe there's a general idea beforehand, but a lot is left up to the process
They’re not formally trained but then again neither was Buddy Rich
This was the best thing about AE and Elektron
They could make an entire set with 3 damn machines
Nicholas Lem ((and other artists) can play an entire set with just one elektron and rocks
@@liantrosretrospectiva4134 you can’t compare AE with Nicholas Lem
@@tristansotomayor8354 I like some stuff from Lem more than some AE ones. They are not gods, they have some crap music too.
Absofuckinglutely true: Nikolai Lem is a very underrated artist who made some crazy shit with the MnM
@@liantrosretrospectiva4134 I agree with your sentiment that they aren't gods, but I'm curious about what you find crap by ae?:)
that one at 3 mins is one of my faves ae jams ever i reckon
That there is possibly my favorite autechre moment ever. Glad to know there are other people out there who appreciate it :)
I can't get over how good these are
its absurd how clean this is
saw them live in 2008 in @ the black cat in D.C. it was amazing. the BPM was a bit lower than this but its great to finally hear a clean version there set again :)
This is one of my favourite eras of Autechre's music. I saw them in Nottingham play a similar set touring Untilted and it blew my swede. If I remember right they were using an Elektron Machinedrum, Elektron Monomachine and an Akai MPC1000. Great memories, thanks!
This live set is electro pushed to the next level, fucking genius, Ae for life!
Inteligente musicale rifa🇲🇽3113🐀
Hearing this set shows me how far these beautiful boxes can be pushed~
Thanks for sharing!
I'm listening to this like an album.
Hey, very many thanks for sharing this. I only recently got a Digitakt. I figured someone in my genre of taste would have used Elektron at some point. Really floored to see Autechre was one of them but it explains a lot given they’re style that it would be a natural conclusion. Cool to hear some music of theirs that wasn’t on an album too!
AE music is revolutioned by elektron gears.. mainly their live in 2008 were composed with MD and MNM..
I have no idea what is going on here, but its wonderful!
This may be a shot in the dark, but it looks like most of the sequences have a 32 step length?
Just got the Md SPS-1UW and I'm wondering how much I'm missing from this patches, since they were made on the MKII machines
The pattern at 4:15 blows me away, love it
I almost couldn't believe what I was hearing.
Looking at the sysex data from the MM, the effect is achieved by using the RAM machine capturing sounds in real-time. The sample is played back in reverse, using a short retrig time and pitched all the way up. Seems like a random effect by trial-and-error, but sounds cool.
yeh
deeply sick
For me it's 11:42 Absolutely insane
Fantastic to hear! I've loved the 2008 set the most until 2014 and the recording I have isn't very clear so this was wonderful to hear clearly. many thanks for uploading, much appreciated
saw them 2008 middle east downstairs in cambridge. amazing set
Pretty sure if you listen to live performances from that time the beats are more varied. I wonder if they had some max stuff hooked up either in the midi chain or just doing buffering type effects on the audio coming out. This is just a bunch of loops with surprisingly little or no probability/conditional-trig stuff going on in any given loop.
max more likely
What year did the Megacommand become available? If not earlier than that then probs etc wouldn't have been possible, it's not onboard with the MD.
I feel like they also had a nord modular as part of this setup. Ages ago someone posted an overhead shot and pretty sure one of them manned the elektrons, and the other the nord.
@@rpaulseymourone manned the two Elektrons (Monomachine and Machinedrum), the other had the MPC1000, a Nord Modular G2 engine, and I think a Bitstream midi controller.
The Elektrons were mainly independent together, and the Nord was being played by the MPC along with some midi control of both from the controller.
Based on the patches, the Nord was just a synth box, nothing crazy or remarkable. 3 Oscillator patches, the most wild thing in there being a modulation sequence that was triggered via clock.
Even the stuff on the Machinedrum was pretty tame. Nothing really using the UW stuff unless they did that live. All pretty basic stuff, some complex modulation and a few layered sounds but that’s it.
There was no Max involved as far as I can tell or have read, and no probability for anything. Just good old fashioned sequencing and sound designing.
There’s no magic to it, they’re just really fucking good.
Thanks for the video! Machinedrum sounds huge
Yeah! I think the monomachine is lower on volume cause it was intended to go thru the mpc according to their official technical notes. MD goes straight to the mix!
Is it possible to get a hq download of this?
hey question would these files work on a mkII machinedrum without the +drive? I'm curious if you could get that many patterns
@@shirishsarkar yes of course. The +drive is just for storing snapshots of the entire machine, but on a plain mkII you always have 8 banks * 16 patterns * 64 steps each.
dieci anni di attesa per riascoltarlo così come fu: grazie! Spero potrai caricare la seconda metà.
è tutto il contenuto dei sysex, non ne esiste una seconda metà, temp (anche perchè i banchi della md e della mono sono PIENISSIMI). A occhio e croce ti direi che la seconda metà che manca è quella di Rob Brown :)
@@buromaschinen ah! probabilmente i pattern sono tutti concentrati in questi 36 minuti, dal vivo portavano la durata a un'ora, un'ora e qualcosa: in questa versione lasciataci (stando a quel che ho capito, ogni parametro è preimpostato, dunque, se non si interviene, quello che ascoltiamo è esattamente quanto Booth e Brown hanno previsto), la chiusura avviene sul tappeto di cassa, che nel live (prendo qui ad esempio la data di toronto) irrompeva a circa metà, definendo forse l'acme dell'"avventura": ruclips.net/video/YxkV7zLqZYk/видео.html ...ad ogni modo, grazie davvero per il video, non esagero nel parlare di catarsi ;)
intervengo in tempo reale: sul sito AE_STORE stanno venendo caricati nuovi file nascosti: autechre.bleepstores.com ...i trattini in fondo - ...ci siamo, non è finita
per altro, mi sono accorto che i patterns, in effetti, ci sono tutti, solo nel video si ripropone una parte sulla chiusura. Grande attesa per una versione che integri i nuovi file...
@@guraindocoa eh si! è una nave in bottiglia :)
8:46 IO.
Ahhhh ma gaaaad - this is like my fave live set (oK, after Glasgow era...) ANY CHANCE THE MACHINEDRUM SHIZZLE WILL WORK ON THE OCTA?????
Nope, sorry :/
@@buromaschinen ah well - nicely performed!!
Did you recreate this or is this using parts of actual live recordings from them? I’m a bit confused.
Its a bit late. But basially Autechre (for a while) posted the files for the Machinedrum so you basically had all the files they used on your machine and could go from there
@@robindreier9796 I just got hold of an MD and I'd love to try this out - is there any way to still get hold of the files?
this thing sounds absurdly good on 0.75x speed.
fooookin' awesome bruv thanx!!
Just got a machinedrum today. How do I install these files?
Through usb to midi cable and the c6 software.. get reference on the manual
Still great!😮
this is so amazing
The Sicc-ness,
Pure
Unrefined
Shot in the dark but how did they make those squelching sounds around 9:12 ?
It's on the Machinedrum sysex, so it's the Monomachine.. good luck :)
Where can we get these patterns?
For the dummies like me can you explain what's going on here, are these autechre samples or something youve created yourself?
Hey! No problem. Autechre released the project files for their 2 Elektron boxes driven live set from 2008 (Machinedrum and Monomachine, a drum machine and a synthesizer, both with advanced sequencing capabilities). A project file ("sysex" file) holds all the information to configure both machines to perform the exact sequences and sounds Autechre created in their studio. I happen to have exactly those two Elektron boxes in my studio so I could reproduce a fairly similar performance to the real thing (some other gear is missing, MPC and Nord Modular if I recall correctly). I just loaded the project files, configured and synchronized the machines and launched every pattern / sound they contained. So it's no samples, just pure synthesis and melodies designed by my favourite music artists out there :) Hope this helps.
Sorry, I answered your question with the wrong account. It was me :)
@@buromaschinen awesome thanks for the info sounds unreal!
@@buromaschinen How expensive are these machine and how hard are they master for someone who's new to producing music?
@@JasonBoon02 they’re quite expensive as they’ve been discontinued for a while and bc of their sort of cult following due to artists like sophie and ae using them. i can’t comment on difficulty of mastering them bc i don’t own them but pretty much any new piece of gear you get is going to have some amount of learning curve no matter what. elektron boxes are super in depth and provide a lot of parameters for you to control, which definitely could seem daunting at first. idk if you know someone that owns a monomachine/machinedrum then i would see if you could try them out before you buy and see how you enjoy the workflow
Dope! Thx for posting......
I JUST BOUGHT THESE MACHINES 😭
what are they?
@@curvcaten888 elektron monomachine and elektron machinedrum
How you getting on with them? I realise it’s been three years lol
@@Snulrichi pee beds quietly 😊
😆 🤣
Sick.
Fuck.Yes.
thats fire
How long does it take to design a set like this?
As long as u want
It'd be cooler if
there were
four
hands.
BOOOOOM!
excellent thanks to share this
Holy shit, thanks for sharing
amazing!
how could you get working the PRGCHG on the MM from the MD with instant change?
Elektron silver machines store their patches inside patterns. They unextricably linked. So if you enable prgchange and transport out on your master machine, pattern and patch will change in the slave one as well. Of course it only works If patterns are written in a 1:1 fashion (a1 on the MD goes with 1:1 a1 on the mono).
@@buromaschinen thanks
@@carloinj you're welcome :)
dutty box man duttybox..
Amazing⚡️
4:50 is where it's at!
Arecthe kicks samples or md machines?
No samples.
@@buromaschinen any kick machines that were predominantly used more than the other machines?
Wicked
MC 202 ❤
Hey, were they playing mk1 non uw gear?
nah there's re-sampling and shit, and also supposed to be real-time sampling input from the Monomachine as well.
and there's a kit in there that references a user ROM file that I don't have.. or doesn't seem to be included in their live set export.
Sympan Sky just loaded it in my mkI. It works minus sampling parts.
awesome!
sweet
What does Sysex means?
Stands for "System Exclusive". It's a special midi message type that can be used in several ways. In this case it's used for a total backup/recall of the two machines states, including sequencing data and automations, of course.
OH Shit Yeah
❤️
Has anyone made a track out of it?
YES Ae!!!!:)
Yeah
At 2:30 is this a song pattern from aphex twins drugs album song? ruclips.net/video/0P848Ixqcz0/видео.html
Yuss
would this open in volca fm or dx7??
No, unfortunately you can't. Elektron sysex is an hardware specific backup kind of file.
the tempo is too high on the first part
As I wrote in the description I just sticked to the BPM in the sysex songmode. No intention to copy the original live which has, as we discovered later in the setlist rtf, different BPM for each track. Anyway thanks for pointing that out :)
not enough crowd noise in background
@Robert Tebby I rarely use the same tempo I composed in live... I'm sure this is just something they modified after the backup
Anyone looking for the sysex files hit me up. I installed them a while back on my Machinedrum seamlessly. Fucking bonkers sound kits and sequences.
oh i would love to. arent they still online somewhere? also do you know maybe if they will work on mk1 models?
please clean your precious hardware.... :(
LOL, ok!
buromaschinen naw, just use it :) dope video by the way!
it looks cooler this way IMO
some people just have their gear to shine in their studio. Its never the people who buy screensavers for their synths and drum machines who use them the most.. trust
Dirty gear is normally indicates a hard worker! Fuck aesthetics, function is all the matters.
Sixteen's
6:49 how could humans come out with that beat?
ruclips.net/video/2fNJZ67roTM/видео.htmlm20s
expermentation
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Madonna, stupendo. 444 video, poi: un numero importantissimo :)
nel senso che è importante per loro (non si può non pensare a incunabula).
@@buromaschinen importante anche per noi: è infatti ragionevole sospettare vi siano altri 225 droni in arrivo, senza considerare che proprio in questo istante ne stanno comparendo di nuovi... o__O
Ah, no, ho sentenziato una minchiata: sono già 444, solo youtube ne visualizzava poco meno di metà...
2:46 sono asceso
😁
7:30
17:19 >:-}
Is that cover up all over your mono machine? What happened? Lol if you tell me that you slapped a chick with your mono machine I’m going to die laughing.
Thought experiment: pretend this is an upload from just some random person on RUclips. Still think it’s genius? Yeah, me neither.
MarkOfTheNorth just depends on what you like. I enjoy sound design and just hearing AE’s sound coming from an Elektron device after recently acquiring my own is inspiring, regardless of whether it’s considered compositionally competent. Plus it’s a treasure trove of samples!
Yes sir, very much so.
MarkOfTheNorth this slaps. I would smash that mf subscribe
I would subscribe too. Maybe you just don't like it, and that's OK.
It's OK to be wrong.
do something better and upload it. otherwise get fucked mate.
This is amazing
thanks for sharing this
Wicked