When my dad was fighting terminal cancer, people told my mom that she wasn’t praying hard enough, that she wasn’t doing the “right” alternative treatment with him… it broke her. How dare people do that. They should be ashamed.
That is awful and F those assholes. Some people truly have no self awareness, otherwise they wouldn't say half the awful things that come out of their mouths on the regular.
I am so sorry for you! Of course for you Mom, too, but my Mom is being swallowed up by a manipulative, verbally abusive boyfriend, so I realise how absolutely horrific it is to have to watch your loved one under bad inlfuences and being unable to help. And loosing gour Dad at the same time... It being a year since your comment, I hope you are better by now, and maybe your Mom has recovered a little, too! Sending good wishes from probably quite far away!
Okay James, let me give you some background. I’m a 62 year old, white Christian woman who suffers from auto immune disease. I worked as a makeup artist for Prescriptives (the predecessor of MAC) for many years. I love your show and also Robert’s show, and your show together. Great info and so much fun. I am here to break the stereotype. I can’t count the times I’ve been offered essential oils for my disease. Oh, and also all kinds of supplements, and a whole new wardrobe from Luluroe. Would you like to hear about Mary Kay? I honestly don’t know why religious people are attracted to this junk. Anyway, I appreciate you shining the light on these groups. They steal from their friends, their families, their children’s future, and themselves. Hard to have compassion for it. Love you and keep up the good work.
It’s absurd how many people try to push essential oils on those of us w/ chronic health conditions! I have a rare genetic disorder as well as multiple autoimmune disorders & it’s disturbing how people think they are going to cure things.
I have an autoimmune disorder too, plud EDS type 3, which basically keeps me in severe pain for the first half of my day- I cannot even count how many looney "cures" have been pushed at me, and it's really messed up because people who feel bad 99 percent of the time are in a very vulnerable state mentally, & for people to actually act like they even know you enough to offer some fake ass "this will make everything better" is just really invasive! ..my son is on the autism spectrum & when he was diagnosed, a looong time ago, the Dr that diagnosed him said to us, and I quote: "all I know is, there is a god and he makes everything perfect " ...this was after me and my then- husband learned our son had autism, we were still in a bit of shock or just confusion..& the DOCTOR actually says that...she had no idea if we were religious or not..what if she said this to complete atheists?? Isnt that something drs aren't supposed to do??( sorry I went off on a tangent here) Ppl have offered every kind of "miracle" and "cure" for my son as well...I am not gonna get into all that but I have a small circle of friends I trust, and I am very careful about who I let into my life because of stuff like this. Sorry again for the length of this.
Religious people are attracted to this junk because it's designed to prey on women whose families and communities refuse to let them get real jobs because a woman's place is in the home. The "set your own hours, throw parties X times a week and do everything else on Facebook" structure appeals to women who want an income of their own but feel culture- or faith-based pressure to remain in the home as a SAHM. It is predatory and these companies deserve all the scorn they get.
@@rebecastevens8892 camouflage concealer, just the best. Line Preventer is still one of my fave serums. First to deal with free radicals and brought us Hyaluronic Acid.
I was raised and worked at a nonprofit in the Christian community and one thing I noticed was that a lot of con artists, narcissists, and sociopaths have learned if they talk ostentatiously about being a Christian, they will be accepted and supported by the community without question. A lot of them use this for personal gain, due to the moral imperative Christians feel to support “Christian” businesses. It’s a perfect environment for MLMs.
Yah this is exactly how the church allows abuse and misinformation to continue. I don’t remember reading in the Bible to negate all scientific knowledge and pursuit.. and yet that’s why they think they should do? They pick and choose what they want to believe and use for their benefit and how they interpret the Bible and base nothing else on actual real science?? Surely there have been so many marriages, relationships, mental illnesses, children, women, even men, being mistreated, neglected, and/or pigeon holed by these ostentatious, quite frankly, narcissistic and on some levels socio/psychopathic nonsense, people, and ideas they support. This kind seem to often turn a blind eye to the actual people who need help.
My mom has unfortunately been possessed by the young living “oily community” scam. She uses them as MEDICINE and it always irritated me. I wasn’t even allowed to have 100% soy and essential oil candles in my room because they “weren’t purified young living oils” and smells “irritate her nose” even though she’d blast seven diffusers in one room. a few years ago when my brother was 6, he had to have an emergency appendectomy and was in the hospital for almost two weeks because every time he complained about the pain, my mom just slathered his stomach with oil until it was almost too late 😞
so sorry to hear that- that must be incredibly tough for you. but i think it’s really awesome that you can recognize that it’s a scam and that you have your sense and wits. hopefully you can pass that down to your younger brother so he doesn’t become brainwashed. i sincerely hope if you ever need medical attention you have someone other than your mother you can confide in (even a guidance counselor at school). try to build ties and relationships with others so in the event you need help, you have somewhere to turn. life’s not easy, but just by your short comment- you appear to have your head screwed on good. sending you much success and happiness. 💕
I’m the medical community and giving false hope or promises is ethically and morally horrific. Telling people essential oils cure cancer or covid hurts my heart. I believe having a positive outlook prior to and during treatment (surgery etc.) plays a huge role but it by no means replaces medically appropriate treatment nor does it “guarantee” a positive outcome.
As a “Mormon” and with a mom who had breast cancer…people who worship essential oils as “god’s medicine” are…insane. Love this new series and your takes on them!! 💕
@@aliciakali-panaceabiomed-p6755 cults enforce lose of choice and take away their members rights as human beings. We do not. People have taken some teachings of ours, reworded them, to form cults but that isn’t what we are. We are church, a religion. Misinformation is very prominent for us. Now hearing that we “believe black people are aliens” is a new one and that was a great little laugh 😆 I come from a biracial family and none of us were taught that we are “aliens” or lesser beings for being anything other then white.
@@JamesWelsh yes, super predatory! When I was diagnosed with breast cancer, the amount of mlm huns that suddenly appeared and started telling me “their products could cure my cancer” was disgusting!
As an aromatherapist, essential oils are complementary to medicine. They can help with stuff, but not cure. There are strict measurements to follow with essential oils and never take internally. Lots of those MLM essential oil companies don't follow these measurements and encourage taking the oils internally which is extremely dangerous
Yes. I was trained by a couple healers a curendera and walker of the path aka shaman. Both told me to never ingest essential oils and always use a carrier oil. I was horrified the first time I hear YL reps telling people to use oils directly on their skin and even worse is when they tell people to ingest it, the frankincense especially worries me.
@@ashassassin not to mention the amount of WATER and resources they take to make. I've stopped using them in my massages and in my daily life. I mean, it's not like we have an endless supply of fresh water. If we truly want to be in harmony with the earth, we need to be wary of how much were using.
Omg I'm 3 mins in and I'm raging. I couldn't agree with you any more. I'm a fully qualified holistic therapist. I never claim to cure. Oils and massage are an aid to modern medicine only never a cure and anyone who says different should be in prison. They have healing properties and are great but we spend years training to use them correctly and safely. It's companies like this that give us a bad name
I'm an aromatherapist and these MLMs give very dangerous advice. There was one meeting where the YL told a woman to put peppermint on their baby's gums. The baby cried and screamed so hard from the pain that he had a seizure. One of the other YL reps reported it and they told her nothing wrong had been done and the baby was just "detoxing."
Aw poor baby . Chamomile or lavender would have been safe but idk if the mlm is food safe. I use peppermint oil soap though it shouldn't be a bad feeling just to be real babies cry when they teeth because of that prob not spicy peppermint ooo scarry.
So one day at work this lady I was serving asked me if I knew what essential oils are. So she got her whole little packet of info (including peppermint oil sample) and was telling me all about the farms. How not even swearing is allowed in the fields and if someone is having a "bad day" and having negative thoughts, they are not to be working. Me (plant science student) was very interested, as they were speaking of all the growing and distilling process like they owned the actual farms and business. When I finally was like "wow, so you own all of this??" "Well... No.." 🙄🙄 I had no idea at the time! They were speaking as if they actually have been on the farms and worked there. Nope. Crazy how they speak of the business as if they own it, but just sell the oil kits. 🙄
I worked as a server with a super weird religious essential oil mlm weirdo. She would try to sell these 60 dollar bottles of oil to the customers she was serving sometimes! It was bonkers. She moved eventually and doesn't talk to me anymore because I didn't vote for trump 😐 I do miss her sweet little daughter a lot. But the lady trying to push that crazy expensive oil on me when I was like 100 bucks away from homelessness every month... Ugh. Like... Yea fuck it, I'll buy your oil and live on the street, just me and my super tiny bottle of essential oil. 😂
@@healthiswealth77711 Gee, sounds just heartwearming...until the whackadoodles snatch you and your life savings up, glassy-eyed, into their creepy pyramid scheme...
My mother is really into alternative things like essential oils, all kinds of powders, alternative meds etc etc and i already decided if i ever get diagnosed w cancer i will never never never ever tell my family because of this.
Friends mother sneaked vitamins, etc into her shake after she started chemo. Dr. had said nothing of the sort, they could stimulate things they are trying to kill.
A family member sells Young Living and is fully immersed in its ridiculousness. Back when she started, she would have us smell different oils. According to YL, the ones you think smell bad or react negatively to are the ones you actually need. What a sales tactic. Sell oils people hate because you say that’s their body telling them they need it. And never mind the fact that most of them make me wheeze. Those are the ones I “need.”
I know right? It‘s so counter-intuitive. They totally meddle with one‘s common sense. I think it‘s manipulation. Another strategy to make people give up their thinking and make them more easy to control.
I am a scientist and I get goosebumps when I hear people curing cancer and other diseases with unconventional treatment like essential oils. Ethically is very wrong to take advantage of desperate people who would try anything to get cured. Shame on them.
What about curing cancer by eating lots of plants and baking soda to turn your body PH alkaline? I heard that cancer can't grow in an alkaline environment. Is this BS in your opinion?
@@annmiller1823 acid-base homeostasis aka your body regulates its pH balance. It is not possible to alter your body pH (blood) through food, and your kidneys are responsible for removing acids & regulating blood pH (along with other systems). Cancer cells are not strictly confined to just an acidic environment, they can grow in an alkaline environment as well.
@@annmiller1823 yes it is BS, at least from a scientific point of view. Like James said: you can believe whatever you want, but when it comes to health and fight diseases, beliefs are simply not enough to get cured.
There is something existentially terrifying about this women like, tearing up about this “demonic” book and James just on the other half of the screen calmly doing his brows, it has super villain origin energy
"Is Satan royal diamond crown status?!" 😂 As a Christian, I get so frustrated when people use this faith to pad their bank accounts. I once went to a Young Living sales pitch. (I think it was back in 2018; I went mainly to see old friends.) The cheapest thing was like $200! I was pushed pretty hard. I didn't buy. (You see, it's easy not to buy when you actually stick to a budget.) I was the ONLY person there who didn't make a purchase -- and there were probably 3 dozen+ ladies there. I don't recall any mentions about the Christian side of the business (other than that it was a Christian company -- supposedly) but there were plenty of health claims. As someone in the medical field, I asked about these claims after the videos, and I was never given any research. Shocking, I know. I've never been again natural remedies/alternative medicine. (I mean, I'm a huge believer that food can often heal.) But claims demean research & science!
That "Is Satan royal diamond crown status" quote reminds me of a Bendy and the Ink Machine comic where Bendy (who is a cartoon DEMON mind you) is LEGIT pitching a cartoon idea to a board of executives! 😆😆
My cousin used to work in the young living corporate office as their head of marketing. She worked directly under Gary Young, and has some of the craziest stories I’ve ever heard. Gary Young served a prison sentence for infanticide and impersonating a doctor after he held his new born daughter underwater for too long in a botched water-birth. During that time, he met the director of formulation Marc Schreuder who was in jail for killing his grandfather. They made Marc’s story into a TV movie, because of how prominent a figure his grandfather was. The way this company was founded is just super crazy, and Gary Young was kind of insane. My cousin was somewhat traumatized after working for him and I’m glad she got out a while ago and has a better job now.
He died of asphyxiation. Just like his daughter. A fitting end imo for a man who was either profoundly deluded or willfully evil until his final moments.
Ironically enough watching this made me realize that everyone I know who swears by essential oils & have fallen into the MLM trap have chronic illnesses. Extremely gross to take advantage of people who need something to believe in.
"It's a cute idea, but ummm, not true" Best summation of alternative medicine I've heard since Tim Minchin! The first 3 minutes of this had me cry laughing! "Good for him....!" "So after NOT graduating" dead!
I’m really enjoying this series you’re doing about exposing corporate beauty controversies. I’ve also converted my lovely mother into a Welsh Twins fan; she says she could listen to you guys giggle and joke all day. 💕
I almost got suckered into this. It was such a trip. I dabble in making things and I made a sugar scrub and oil based perfume for myself. I had a friend who knew this woman from her church who did these little class/mini events at her home. Like a arts and craft thing. Even the seller that was trying to get us in it was having reactions to using it so much. It like blocked her pores all over her body and was causing her to retain it. Her skin was just awful. I still make my own perfume, just not with YL products. They stole almost $500 out of my bank account. Saying it was because I added things to my cart, they were processing it as my order. Being on the phone with their customer service gave me an honest to goodness panic attack, which sent me into an asthma attack. I ended up in the hospital because I really couldn't breathe. The first person I spoke to, that sent me to the hospital, said he was not going to get a higher up because it was not that serious. After I was admitted into the hospital, I used a chat and that person didn't believe I was in the hospital, so I sent a selfie. He refunded me my money and told me that since the order was mailed out, all I would have to do is refuse the delivery. He said he would call back on the day it was scheduled to be delivered and he did. He heard me tell the post office to return to sender. Afterwards he told me that whatever happens now, I wouldn't have to worry about anything. He was probably bending over backwards so I wouldn't sue. I had just started my job, I only wanted my paycheck back.
My partner just came into the room to hand me a cup of tea. Watched a little bit of the video then said "sucks we have too much of a conscience to screw these idiots over too, we'd rake it in". I almost lost my tea, of course he says that 😂 Context: my partner is from a christian/catholic family, went to a religious school, etc. As an adult though he is non-religious.
Even working for mainstream cosmetic brands (not MLM) has a cult like feeling and there is a LOT of gaslighting of staff and toxic positivity. Never again!!
I was in Young living up until about four years ago. Funny how they make you feel like family while you’re in it making them money but yet when you decide to leave because I couldn’t afford to spend the $100 just to get my $65 check, they drop you like you never existed.
the secret and even some life coaching is NOT harmless. when trying to move on from my cult upbringing, i found the secret and proceeded to beat myself up for years because i couldnt keep my thoughts positive enough and fix my life, including self harm that lead to brain damage. i KNEW everything bad that ever happened to me way my fault because the law of attraction says our lives are shaped by our thoughts and feelings. i have cptsd and a few other severe mental health probs and i need medication and care or i cant control whats going on in my head, as well as having a hard time keeping my life together. again, the language of the secret had me convinced all this was my fault because i "let" my thoughts and emotions get bad.
I'm sorry this happened to you. The positive vibes only crowd can do a ton of damage. I'm a yoga teacher and the things I've heard are frightening. I'm a realist and I teach the traditional teachings of life is shit, we use yoga to try to rise above it. We don't pretend bad things don't happen
LOVEDDD it. Love anti-MLM. Love conspiracy theories. Love when beauty turns ugly. Literally & unequivocally love every single creation you’ve put on the platform for us. Much love, James. You’re amazing! Side note: Can’t wait for the next season if the podcast 😍🥰
My mother used to buy tons of essential oil’s from young living because she was influenced and made to think it’d be the miracle cure for her pains associated with lupus and arthritis. She’d even give oils to me because she was constantly buying them and all I would do is use them to diffuse and make my room smell nice. Years ago when she told me that she has to purchase from a coworker who sells Young Living to get her oil, I thought that was so weird because everything can easily be bought online nowadays. I didn’t know what an MLM was at the time and I don’t think she did either. She probably spent hundreds on oil from her coworker until she realized that a majority of it she does not need, and that the things she actually does like didn’t really do anything for her either. Thankfully she didn’t start selling them, but she was one step away from being conned into it. Young Living was super predatory and really made her feel like she had to constantly buy from them every week to not lose access to their products. It was a huge waste of her hard earned money on stuff that she was told would help her. I truly wish MLM’s were shut down and outlawed. I really loved this video and I would loooove to see more like this as well 💜
When I was first getting into essential oils for like room sprays and cleaners, I met a lot of YL consultants trying to sell everything to me. There was a woman who was trying to sell me the "cure to my daughter's autism" using 3 essential oil blends lol
‼️Yeah they are absolutely vile! I'm an in-home geriatric nurse and one of my patients had severe Alzheimer's he was in the middle to late stages. And he was on his 7th wife she was like 30 years younger than him she was like mid-40s. And OBSESSED with young living. She obviously married him for his money and then because they were married she basically had power of attorney over him. So she refused to give him the medicine his doctor prescribed because he was paranoid and scared all the time and kept trying to run away from the house. So instead of treating his Alzheimer's with REAL medication that would really help him she would try to treat his Alzheimer's with essential oils. And it wasn't his fault but he was a really stressful and nightmare client to work with because his wife refused to give him medicine! He would sun down really bad and the whole thing was just a disaster. I f****** hated her guts. I tried to go to bat for him, I tried to advocate for him, I tried to do everything I could but there was nothing I could do. He developed Alzheimer's after they got married and after he changed his will. There's nothing his children could do. Frankly I saw it as elder abuse and I reported her and was removed as his nurse. I have no idea what happened to him due to HIPAA laws they can't tell me because he's no longer my patient. But it was so frustrating and it hurt my heart so much. This was 4 years ago and I still think about him all the time. I doubt he's alive anymore but I f****** hate that b**** and she deserves to be scammed by Young living and I hope she loses every single f****** dime she inherited to pyramid schemes.
@@WhitneyDahlin that is absolutely horrific. Poor man. I knew a lady that would give her children Essential oils instead of taking them to the doctor. It made me so sad for those children. What Young Living is selling is so dangerous for people that fall for it.
I remembering asking forthe price of a lavender oil for cleaning and I received a look filled with hate 😅 Good, I never bought any other essential oil. By that moment I had 3 that was using for cleaning.
What kills me is that Garry Young delivered one of his children at his own clinic. He held his daughters under the water, claiming she could breathe because if babies could breathe in the wombs they can underwater after being born because "the cord was still intact." He should've gotten life, IMO, but he didn't. And this was before the cancer patient, so he kept going after unaliving his own daughter. It happened in WA state where I grew up.
it took me a very long time but i am so happy that i’m no longer belong in “mormon”. it’s no secret that mlm is huge in mormon community… it hurts me to see people around me wasting money and emotions with mlm companies believing it’s going to cure them. i mostly feel bad because they always target vulnerable people tricking them that they can own a business and earn significant income. i am so glad you are talking about young living and how awful they are!
I think a big part of the draw is the idea that a woman should be in the home, caring for the children, should get married and start popping out kids really young so higher education kind of goes out the window. This would make sense as to how so many of them get duped into believing in the products, so being able to sell the (useless) products they now believe in and make (read: NOT) a little extra income to “supplement” their husband’s helps them feel more important? Empowered? That’s the vibe I get anyway.
There lash serum, although crazy expensive does work. I've been lucky not to have any reactions, but my lashes grew like crazy! I don't sell it and I'm not connected with the company at all.
@@jkc8407 from my understanding the product really does work, but it works because it uses prescription grade ingredients despite being sold as a cosmetic grade product. This means they have different regulations and do not disclose all of the dangers/side effects. He did do a video about lash serums!
@@emmalinekim9822 that explains it lol. I love it! I am super careful with it. I'm always scared my eyes with turn color or something bad will happen. I feel a little better now. Thank you!!!
As someone who gets chronic migraines, I do love me some peppermint oil, but I also love my prescription medications. I take my daily preventative meds and my medication for when a migraine attack comes on, but there’s nothing wrong with finding something soothing in essential oils. Just stop thinking it’s going to “cure” everything. And remember not to go out in the sun with oils on your skin! I remember my best friends mother in high school thinking she could get rid of my gal stones with essential oils and trying to talk me out of surgery. She was a sweet lady but that was absolutely nutty.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. Have you looked more into the founder, Gary?? Weeeird stories about him. I was raised with yleo since around 2015 just when my teens began, and my mom is still a member of the company. She makes monthly payments in order to maintain her "business" when she is not making nearly enough to make a profit (as are more than half of the members). When you walk through my parents house it's like a yleo pop up shop. Products for skincare, laundry, dishwashing, disinfecting, illnesses, workout supplements, everything you could think of. Whenever I bought a product outside of yleo for my sensitive skin or disinfecting spray, she'd take it personally. She's not very religious and she doesn't practice witchcraft, but she believes the claim that specifically yleo has the superior EOs and are effective scientifically. When I showed evidence that the company was misleading, and she'd dismissively say there's evidence for many different perspectives.
Exactly like my mother’s house. She only gets their products because she has sensitive skin/nose/etc. but I think the YL is changing her biology. There are claims that Gary murdered his minutes old daughter by drowning her purposefully. Also claimed the “paralyzed story” has no hospital or any other records of any sort of accident.
@@julialucey4587 yes! He opened a fitness center or something like that. He made his wife give birth in the pool but held the baby under water for an hour. The baby obviously died and he was arrested. This happened in the early 1980’s in Spokane Washington.
As a Christian I loved this video. I do believe ppl will follow religion blindly which honestly makes a lot of them more vulnerable to being scammed. Religion has been a tool for control since the beginning of time and I feel bad for the customers that had to suffer
"Everything is just allegedly in my opinion for legal reasons" oh my god I am using this in all of my conversations now 😂😂😂😂😂 no one will ever find a comeback to that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I went to a craft fair (people sell handmade items, or MLM products.) I went to a table that had essential oils, and the women were explaining the basic stuff, I smelled one that made me flinch away, and the woman said “that means you are in need of that oil if you don’t like it. It means something needs a good cleanse.” And I was like that’s interesting, also it just smells bad 😂
It’s genuinely really refreshing to see one of these kinds of videos that isn’t going overboard criticising peoples religions and beliefs, just the ways in which they’ve been manipulated and can cause harm when you become too indoctrinated and rely on them too heavily
"He then decided to ruin other people's lives in a different way." You slay me! Love the tone fluctuation in how you stated this. All your videos are informative and well researched. I could listen to you talk all day. Your facial expressions are hilarious, especially your deadpan "right." expression.
As someone who grew up in an actual cult, surrounded by Young Living reps, this one is so funny and sad at the same time. The attitude at that time was very cliquish… like if you weren’t using these specific oils you’re “NoT a GOod CHrIsTiaN.” The whole YL and it’s Christian following is truly so disgustingly hypocritical, privileged, and stupid. So so glad to have escaped when I did and thanks for covering this topic so well James 🖤
It’s interesting to see how there’s still differences within one group. I’m a Latter Day Saint (aka “Mormon”), born and raised, and my parents always taught me that God’s medicine is actually doctors and real medicine (ie. God blessed us with brilliant people who have those ideas to keep us healthy).
As a practicing Christian… I cackled laughing at this! I also believe that essential oils are NOT on the level as actual medicine, doctors & science! 🤦🏼♀️ Thanks for the laugh today James, adore you!
Practicing Christian, herbalist, and traditional living expert here. I use oils, herbs, supplements, and a whole food diet daily to stay alive. I was injured by a standard medical procedure years ago and now must keep epipens on hand at all times, among taking other serious precautions to keep death at bay. I am allergic to OTC and RX meds. I had a life-threatening medical emergency a few years back and guess what? I took the damn morphine (the only painkiller that doesn’t cause anaphylaxis) and the penicillin to keep from losing my mind to pain and losing my life to infection. I don’t use a hammer when I need a saw, and I don’t use oils when I need surgery. Shew.
Practicing Christian here too. I have some people in my church who do use YL oils and do think they are “almost” medicine. Like they go to the doctor, they have surgery when needed and take medicine. But they also heavily rely on oils for a lot. I am totally not in favor of them (especially since my mom is a nurse so conventional medicine was big in our house). I use a little lavender oil on my pillow at night to help me sleep, but YL costs a fortune and I can get an oil that works for a fraction of the price. I’m not sure why it is that many Christians move towards oils and alternatives to traditional medicine. I also have a lot of friends who are Christian who see naturopaths and take herbs and things like they are medicine. I don’t know- I believe God gave humans the ability to learn about science and medicine and then use that knowledge to create actual medical treatments.
I love a good MLM debunking, they are pretty awful and I discourage anyone I know from buying anything repeatedly from them. MLM = more expensive it's that simple and they have terrible corporate unofficial-policies. More please
Fun fact: when I was a kid I thought “witch craft” was pronounced “witch crap” I even asked one of my teachers as a kid which one it was, “crap or craft” and she said “crap” so I went around sounding like an idiot for a good year or so every time I talked about it.
I mean when your religion teaches that Hebrew people came to North America 2,000 years ago and that they wrote their story on some magical tablets that oopsie no one can find... it's not a big leap to believe that peppermint oil cures cancer. Mormonism is a crackpot religion and it's super racist and anti-Indigenous too. Sorry that's just the truth.
Thank you! You are kicking a hornets nest and I'm GLAD. I hate MLM's. I've watched companies like Younique, etc. take advantage of poor, uneducated women. They should be illegal.
They technically are, but the regulations just haven’t caught up. People are getting crafty with their taxes, pay structure, and business plans to avoid the ‘label’ of mlm so that they can still do business.
Heartbreaking, especially the end of the video. Taking advantage of the seriouy ill and the economically desperate is disgusting and the popularity of mlms just shows how desperate people are. Thank you for giving warnings.
Man this leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I work in healthcare and have had family members with cancer and I’m Catholic. The fact that they are saying essential oils will cure those things is absurd and damaging.
As someone who's in the same boat whose relatives will go to quack doctors, I mean traditional healers because they want to avoid the side effects of modern medicine it's effing crazy.🥴😡
GREAT job James! A friend of mine sells YL and its made it awkward and sent me on an MLM spiral learning all kinds of things about YL. You handled this topic with such care.
This is my main problem with religion, particularly evangelicals. This notion of being “I’m holier than thou” all the while being intolerant, close-minded, scared of everything and anything, anti-science, which is why most (at least in the US) go down the right wing conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Being a good human does not always come hand in hand with religion
That’s true about both extremes. You can say the same about left wingers as well, intolerant, close-minded, scared of everything and anything, anti-science 🤷🏽♀️
Me, woman who doesn’t believe in the whole essential oils nonsense but goes to church with a few that sell for Young Living. I am READY for the tea and shade. ☕️
Comical that someone who sells scams to ppl and lies to them about what essential oils can do, would take a “moral” stance and tell ppl not to allow demonic teachings in their house 😏.
I’m only 14 minutes in but when I was a Pentecostal Christian as a teenager anything like the secret or manifestation was seen as demonic (as was yoga, meditation, Harry Potter, the list goes on). So basically as soon as YL started incorporating spirituality that wasn’t explicitly Christian, the fundamentalist sellers started freaking out. Hope that helps with context lol.
As a believer (not necessarily religious but i do believe in God), I am not offended by your video. I'm offended that there are evil people who claim religion and faith that ruin lives through mlm
I'm not a Christian, but I asked a literal pastor about this kind of thing out of curiosity and he said that telling someone that God wants them to join your MLM scam is blasphemy. He explained it better than I can.
Thank you for making a video on this! My dad got sucked into buying a ton of stuff from Young Living during the pandemic and continues to be sucked in. It's incredibly frustrating to see people get suckered into this cult.
Using fear and manipulation is the opposite of what a region is based upon. Anyone who EVERRRR tries to convince you of something and does so in a belittling way is more hell bound than you are.
I enjoyed this episode, thank you for shining a spotlight on mlms and showing people they are a scam. I would love to see more beauty industry deep dives.
A recently exposed organization that taught self improvement, NXIVM, was definitely a cult in disguise! I'm not sure if you've heard of the story that took place in New York. My indirect connection to it is one of the creators of NXIVM, Nancy Salzman was my mother's therapist back in the early 90's! And my mom really liked her and did well with her therapy! My mom died in 2011 and the story broke in 2017, so she missed all the insanity around it! Lol....just thought I'd share since you mentioned the self improvement movement is similar to a cult and you were definitely right!! Love your channel and this alternative to your regular content is awesome!
I can't even tell my bestie about the stress and anxiety I've been dealing for these past few years from the amount of workloads I have.. bcs she will went "I recommended you this oil bla bla bla.." Urghh just stop promoting your oil everytime someone mentioning their struggles
You missed the part in his biography where he's responsible for the death of his newborn daughter because they kept her under the water for an hour during a water birth. 🤬 ETA-He did mention it in passing later in the vid. You can find the info on Gary Young's Wikipedia page.
@@suziek888 well our court system is about that insane in jailing nearly half the planet so...may as well start jailing the dead too?! Duh! This country has become stark raving mad!
This is my second time watching because I'm playing your list. You summed it up perfectly, you can believe in something outside yourself, or you can believe you are in control, the only difference is that and the amount of ritual you feel you have to go through to ask for what you want
I know I'm late to the party but I just wanted to say how glad I am that you've brought this to your audience's attention. MLMs are making their way to the UK and there needs to be more awareness.
@@JamesWelsh exactly! They can’t even explain to me what lupus is and how their miracle oils cure it. I’m always getting targeted by these huns to fix me because someone in their group had lupus and they don’t now. It’s infuriating.
@@erinwarner3376upus ought to be an easy one by now since the very first support group for those damaged by Prozac was for those who developed lupus from it. Now with so many Prozac clones out there there must be tons of people with Lupus!
Loved this video! MLMs have a chokehold on Mormons. I lived in Utah where there are tons: Young Living, DoTerra, NuSkin, Younique, Senegence, Maskcara Beauty (now Seint makeup), etc. I’d love to see more videos about these.
Loved this episode, MLM's are the worst, pyramid schemes of course. Great on how you pointed out that their basically poached by another company (allegedly) and paid for their clients(allegedly).🤔💬👏
I love that you did this! The amount of times I’ve been approached by YL shills. Maybe God gave us EO and yeah they smell nice but they’re not curing my depression and anxiety, Carol! That’s why he gave us klonopin.
I mean in some ways they can HELP with anxiety and depression in the forms of aromatherapy and things like that but it's no cure for sure. And definitely not meant to be ingested or used in place of real medication but it is often a great aid in treating those things.
Love this one! If you don't know what these companies are, what these people are really selling, you can get seriously hurt in many ways. Keep covering these kind of things, you did great work with this.
When my dad was fighting terminal cancer, people told my mom that she wasn’t praying hard enough, that she wasn’t doing the “right” alternative treatment with him… it broke her. How dare people do that. They should be ashamed.
That is awful and F those assholes. Some people truly have no self awareness, otherwise they wouldn't say half the awful things that come out of their mouths on the regular.
I am so sorry for you! Of course for you Mom, too, but my Mom is being swallowed up by a manipulative, verbally abusive boyfriend, so I realise how absolutely horrific it is to have to watch your loved one under bad inlfuences and being unable to help. And loosing gour Dad at the same time...
It being a year since your comment, I hope you are better by now, and maybe your Mom has recovered a little, too! Sending good wishes from probably quite far away!
I hope she's doing okay now
The “rock” “and” “roll” music you play at the start of this video is the devil so I will now be leaving RUclips and posting exclusively on Vimeo 🙏🏻
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Omg I knew you were in here Robert 😂
Love it! ❤️ 🤣🤣
that intro was actually pretty great 🤘🤘🤘
but I'm a proud atheist metalhead, I may be biased (and already doomed)
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You doing your eyebrows while the woman cried about the 'satanic book' bs on her IG was such a mood. Excellent
Yes, that cracked me up! 😂😂
I was laughing the whole time James was plucking. That fake crying made me want to vomit 🤢 what a scam 😒
chefs kiss
I thought the same thing! Like, ugh here we go, Karen is ‘crying’😂
lmao , thats quality content right there
Okay James, let me give you some background. I’m a 62 year old, white Christian woman who suffers from auto immune disease. I worked as a makeup artist for Prescriptives (the predecessor of MAC) for many years. I love your show and also Robert’s show, and your show together. Great info and so much fun. I am here to break the stereotype.
I can’t count the times I’ve been offered essential oils for my disease. Oh, and also all kinds of supplements, and a whole new wardrobe from Luluroe. Would you like to hear about Mary Kay? I honestly don’t know why religious people are attracted to this junk. Anyway, I appreciate you shining the light on these groups. They steal from their friends, their families, their children’s future, and themselves. Hard to have compassion for it.
Love you and keep up the good work.
It’s absurd how many people try to push essential oils on those of us w/ chronic health conditions! I have a rare genetic disorder as well as multiple autoimmune disorders & it’s disturbing how people think they are going to cure things.
I have an autoimmune disorder too, plud EDS type 3, which basically keeps me in severe pain for the first half of my day-
I cannot even count how many looney "cures" have been pushed at me, and it's really messed up because people who feel bad 99 percent of the time are in a very vulnerable state mentally, & for people to actually act like they even know you enough to offer some fake ass "this will make everything better" is just really invasive!
..my son is on the autism spectrum & when he was diagnosed, a looong time ago, the Dr that diagnosed him said to us, and I quote:
"all I know is, there is a god and he makes everything perfect "
...this was after me and my then- husband learned our son had autism, we were still in a bit of shock or just confusion..& the DOCTOR actually says that...she had no idea if we were religious or not..what if she said this to complete atheists??
Isnt that something drs aren't supposed to do??( sorry I went off on a tangent here)
Ppl have offered every kind of "miracle" and "cure" for my son as well...I am not gonna get into all that but I have a small circle of friends I trust, and I am very careful about who I let into my life because of stuff like this.
Sorry again for the length of this.
I loved the Prescriptives concealer!!
Religious people are attracted to this junk because it's designed to prey on women whose families and communities refuse to let them get real jobs because a woman's place is in the home. The "set your own hours, throw parties X times a week and do everything else on Facebook" structure appeals to women who want an income of their own but feel culture- or faith-based pressure to remain in the home as a SAHM.
It is predatory and these companies deserve all the scorn they get.
@@rebecastevens8892 camouflage concealer, just the best. Line Preventer is still one of my fave serums. First to deal with free radicals and brought us Hyaluronic Acid.
I was raised and worked at a nonprofit in the Christian community and one thing I noticed was that a lot of con artists, narcissists, and sociopaths have learned if they talk ostentatiously about being a Christian, they will be accepted and supported by the community without question. A lot of them use this for personal gain, due to the moral imperative Christians feel to support “Christian” businesses. It’s a perfect environment for MLMs.
Yes this exactly
Yah this is exactly how the church allows abuse and misinformation to continue. I don’t remember reading in the Bible to negate all scientific knowledge and pursuit.. and yet that’s why they think they should do? They pick and choose what they want to believe and use for their benefit and how they interpret the Bible and base nothing else on actual real science?? Surely there have been so many marriages, relationships, mental illnesses, children, women, even men, being mistreated, neglected, and/or pigeon holed by these ostentatious, quite frankly, narcissistic and on some levels socio/psychopathic nonsense, people, and ideas they support. This kind seem to often turn a blind eye to the actual people who need help.
My mom has unfortunately been possessed by the young living “oily community” scam. She uses them as MEDICINE and it always irritated me. I wasn’t even allowed to have 100% soy and essential oil candles in my room because they “weren’t purified young living oils” and smells “irritate her nose” even though she’d blast seven diffusers in one room. a few years ago when my brother was 6, he had to have an emergency appendectomy and was in the hospital for almost two weeks because every time he complained about the pain, my mom just slathered his stomach with oil until it was almost too late 😞
Your mother should be serving time!
Oh my god 😟 I’m so sorry
Oh no! That must’ve been a huge amount of suffering for him. I hope he’s okay and actually getting treatment now!
Yikes. Sorry about your mom. Hope your brother is doing better now. Hope you both get the medical care you deserve
so sorry to hear that- that must be incredibly tough for you. but i think it’s really awesome that you can recognize that it’s a scam and that you have your sense and wits. hopefully you can pass that down to your younger brother so he doesn’t become brainwashed. i sincerely hope if you ever need medical attention you have someone other than your mother you can confide in (even a guidance counselor at school). try to build ties and relationships with others so in the event you need help, you have somewhere to turn. life’s not easy, but just by your short comment- you appear to have your head screwed on good. sending you much success and happiness. 💕
I’m the medical community and giving false hope or promises is ethically and morally horrific. Telling people essential oils cure cancer or covid hurts my heart. I believe having a positive outlook prior to and during treatment (surgery etc.) plays a huge role but it by no means replaces medically appropriate treatment nor does it “guarantee” a positive outcome.
Sitting here reading this with heart damage due to Covid. Virus induced myocarditis is real.
As a “Mormon” and with a mom who had breast cancer…people who worship essential oils as “god’s medicine” are…insane. Love this new series and your takes on them!! 💕
It’s so predatory and just so sad too. 💜💜
@@aliciakali-panaceabiomed-p6755 🤣👌. Thank you.
@@aliciakali-panaceabiomed-p6755 what 😂 wait... this explains everything about my life. Can anyone please guide me to the spaceship home?
@@aliciakali-panaceabiomed-p6755 cults enforce lose of choice and take away their members rights as human beings. We do not. People have taken some teachings of ours, reworded them, to form cults but that isn’t what we are. We are church, a religion. Misinformation is very prominent for us. Now hearing that we “believe black people are aliens” is a new one and that was a great little laugh 😆 I come from a biracial family and none of us were taught that we are “aliens” or lesser beings for being anything other then white.
@@JamesWelsh yes, super predatory! When I was diagnosed with breast cancer, the amount of mlm huns that suddenly appeared and started telling me “their products could cure my cancer” was disgusting!
As an aromatherapist, essential oils are complementary to medicine. They can help with stuff, but not cure. There are strict measurements to follow with essential oils and never take internally.
Lots of those MLM essential oil companies don't follow these measurements and encourage taking the oils internally which is extremely dangerous
Yes. I was trained by a couple healers a curendera and walker of the path aka shaman. Both told me to never ingest essential oils and always use a carrier oil. I was horrified the first time I hear YL reps telling people to use oils directly on their skin and even worse is when they tell people to ingest it, the frankincense especially worries me.
@@ashassassin not to mention the amount of WATER and resources they take to make. I've stopped using them in my massages and in my daily life. I mean, it's not like we have an endless supply of fresh water. If we truly want to be in harmony with the earth, we need to be wary of how much were using.
Omg I'm 3 mins in and I'm raging. I couldn't agree with you any more.
I'm a fully qualified holistic therapist. I never claim to cure. Oils and massage are an aid to modern medicine only never a cure and anyone who says different should be in prison. They have healing properties and are great but we spend years training to use them correctly and safely. It's companies like this that give us a bad name
@@PunkAssB1tch QUACK, QUACK, QUACK
@@argusfleibeit1165 I see you also enjoyed the mighty ducks movie
I'm an aromatherapist and these MLMs give very dangerous advice. There was one meeting where the YL told a woman to put peppermint on their baby's gums. The baby cried and screamed so hard from the pain that he had a seizure. One of the other YL reps reported it and they told her nothing wrong had been done and the baby was just "detoxing."
Oh my god
Aw poor baby . Chamomile or lavender would have been safe but idk if the mlm is food safe. I use peppermint oil soap though it shouldn't be a bad feeling just to be real babies cry when they teeth because of that prob not spicy peppermint ooo scarry.
I literally don't believe "baby cried so hard he got a seizure"
The saddest thing about that is that if they had used clove oil it might have actually helped. They're worse than ignorant.
So one day at work this lady I was serving asked me if I knew what essential oils are. So she got her whole little packet of info (including peppermint oil sample) and was telling me all about the farms. How not even swearing is allowed in the fields and if someone is having a "bad day" and having negative thoughts, they are not to be working. Me (plant science student) was very interested, as they were speaking of all the growing and distilling process like they owned the actual farms and business. When I finally was like "wow, so you own all of this??" "Well... No.." 🙄🙄 I had no idea at the time! They were speaking as if they actually have been on the farms and worked there. Nope. Crazy how they speak of the business as if they own it, but just sell the oil kits. 🙄
I worked as a server with a super weird religious essential oil mlm weirdo. She would try to sell these 60 dollar bottles of oil to the customers she was serving sometimes! It was bonkers. She moved eventually and doesn't talk to me anymore because I didn't vote for trump 😐 I do miss her sweet little daughter a lot. But the lady trying to push that crazy expensive oil on me when I was like 100 bucks away from homelessness every month... Ugh. Like... Yea fuck it, I'll buy your oil and live on the street, just me and my super tiny bottle of essential oil. 😂
Just FYI the YL farm is in Mona Utah and I have been there. It's beautiful and open to the public.
@@healthiswealth77711 Gee, sounds just heartwearming...until the whackadoodles snatch you and your life savings up, glassy-eyed, into their creepy pyramid scheme...
@@healthiswealth77711well then anyone having a bad day could go there then lmao
“Is Satan Royal Diamond Crown status?!?” Yes, he also fuels hot pink Cadillacs and causes unbelievers hair to fall out.
Omg 😂😂😂💀
Monat so fast, Satan.🤣
I laughed out loud when he said that! 🤣
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My mother is really into alternative things like essential oils, all kinds of powders, alternative meds etc etc and i already decided if i ever get diagnosed w cancer i will never never never ever tell my family because of this.
Friends mother sneaked vitamins, etc into her shake after she started chemo. Dr. had said nothing of the sort, they could stimulate things they are trying to kill.
Chemo is quite literally a poison and if you get to the stage where you need it, you're already done for anyway
I love watching anti-MLM videos. It’s like watching Hoarders.
i LOVE hoarders
Yes! So addicting, I can’t stop watching them! Anti-MLM and Hoarders lol
Lmao. So true!
Cc Suarez, Savannah Marie and Hannah Alonzo are my fav anti mlm channels. But I follow like 10 others
A family member sells Young Living and is fully immersed in its ridiculousness. Back when she started, she would have us smell different oils. According to YL, the ones you think smell bad or react negatively to are the ones you actually need. What a sales tactic. Sell oils people hate because you say that’s their body telling them they need it. And never mind the fact that most of them make me wheeze. Those are the ones I “need.”
Lmaooo!!! Yes I was told this by the lady who got my mom into them lol
I know right? It‘s so counter-intuitive. They totally meddle with one‘s common sense. I think it‘s manipulation. Another strategy to make people give up their thinking and make them more easy to control.
I am a scientist and I get goosebumps when I hear people curing cancer and other diseases with unconventional treatment like essential oils. Ethically is very wrong to take advantage of desperate people who would try anything to get cured. Shame on them.
Omg same and same 😬
What about curing cancer by eating lots of plants and baking soda to turn your body PH alkaline? I heard that cancer can't grow in an alkaline environment. Is this BS in your opinion?
@@annmiller1823 acid-base homeostasis aka your body regulates its pH balance. It is not possible to alter your body pH (blood) through food, and your kidneys are responsible for removing acids & regulating blood pH (along with other systems). Cancer cells are not strictly confined to just an acidic environment, they can grow in an alkaline environment as well.
@@annmiller1823 yes it is BS, at least from a scientific point of view. Like James said: you can believe whatever you want, but when it comes to health and fight diseases, beliefs are simply not enough to get cured.
The comment about turning your body alkaline - nice to have a laugh first thing in the morning - screenshot for future enjoyment 😬😂
There is something existentially terrifying about this women like, tearing up about this “demonic” book and James just on the other half of the screen calmly doing his brows, it has super villain origin energy
"Is Satan royal diamond crown status?!" 😂
As a Christian, I get so frustrated when people use this faith to pad their bank accounts. I once went to a Young Living sales pitch. (I think it was back in 2018; I went mainly to see old friends.) The cheapest thing was like $200! I was pushed pretty hard. I didn't buy. (You see, it's easy not to buy when you actually stick to a budget.) I was the ONLY person there who didn't make a purchase -- and there were probably 3 dozen+ ladies there. I don't recall any mentions about the Christian side of the business (other than that it was a Christian company -- supposedly) but there were plenty of health claims. As someone in the medical field, I asked about these claims after the videos, and I was never given any research. Shocking, I know. I've never been again natural remedies/alternative medicine. (I mean, I'm a huge believer that food can often heal.) But claims demean research & science!
That "Is Satan royal diamond crown status" quote reminds me of a Bendy and the Ink Machine comic where Bendy (who is a cartoon DEMON mind you) is LEGIT pitching a cartoon idea to a board of executives!
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My cousin used to work in the young living corporate office as their head of marketing. She worked directly under Gary Young, and has some of the craziest stories I’ve ever heard. Gary Young served a prison sentence for infanticide and impersonating a doctor after he held his new born daughter underwater for too long in a botched water-birth. During that time, he met the director of formulation Marc Schreuder who was in jail for killing his grandfather. They made Marc’s story into a TV movie, because of how prominent a figure his grandfather was. The way this company was founded is just super crazy, and Gary Young was kind of insane. My cousin was somewhat traumatized after working for him and I’m glad she got out a while ago and has a better job now.
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Came to the comments to see if anyone would mention the infanticide. This guy was truly a piece of… work.
Wow. Crazy story indeed.
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He died of asphyxiation. Just like his daughter. A fitting end imo for a man who was either profoundly deluded or willfully evil until his final moments.
Ironically enough watching this made me realize that everyone I know who swears by essential oils & have fallen into the MLM trap have chronic illnesses. Extremely gross to take advantage of people who need something to believe in.
Ding ding ding religion and mlms are designed in a way to control vulnerable groups of people.
I am *LIVING* for this shady content! "His parents must have been so proud! A fake doctor in their family?" 😆
@@Balletified 😂
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"It's a cute idea, but ummm, not true"
Best summation of alternative medicine I've heard since Tim Minchin!
The first 3 minutes of this had me cry laughing! "Good for him....!" "So after NOT graduating" dead!
Not all alternative med is like this. Big pharma is just as bad. But you do you.
I’m really enjoying this series you’re doing about exposing corporate beauty controversies. I’ve also converted my lovely mother into a Welsh Twins fan; she says she could listen to you guys giggle and joke all day. 💕
That was some spicy saucy tea and I licked up every drop of it. More more more
Omg I didn’t even realize he is a twin, weird that one of their videos have never popped up on my page!
Their laughs are so contagious! Most times I’m caught between crying tears of laughter and hyperventilating.
@@simplyarebelteeta3406 same!!
I almost got suckered into this. It was such a trip. I dabble in making things and I made a sugar scrub and oil based perfume for myself. I had a friend who knew this woman from her church who did these little class/mini events at her home. Like a arts and craft thing. Even the seller that was trying to get us in it was having reactions to using it so much. It like blocked her pores all over her body and was causing her to retain it. Her skin was just awful. I still make my own perfume, just not with YL products. They stole almost $500 out of my bank account. Saying it was because I added things to my cart, they were processing it as my order. Being on the phone with their customer service gave me an honest to goodness panic attack, which sent me into an asthma attack. I ended up in the hospital because I really couldn't breathe. The first person I spoke to, that sent me to the hospital, said he was not going to get a higher up because it was not that serious. After I was admitted into the hospital, I used a chat and that person didn't believe I was in the hospital, so I sent a selfie. He refunded me my money and told me that since the order was mailed out, all I would have to do is refuse the delivery. He said he would call back on the day it was scheduled to be delivered and he did. He heard me tell the post office to return to sender. Afterwards he told me that whatever happens now, I wouldn't have to worry about anything. He was probably bending over backwards so I wouldn't sue. I had just started my job, I only wanted my paycheck back.
Ah yes, scamming people is totally fine but focussing on yourself CROSSED the line.
That’s exactly it!
So succinct but right on the money!
My partner just came into the room to hand me a cup of tea. Watched a little bit of the video then said "sucks we have too much of a conscience to screw these idiots over too, we'd rake it in". I almost lost my tea, of course he says that 😂 Context: my partner is from a christian/catholic family, went to a religious school, etc. As an adult though he is non-religious.
Yes, please continue exploring MLMs and take a dive into skincare cults. People are so scary and weird about making money.
Yo like Younique would be great!!
Even working for mainstream cosmetic brands (not MLM) has a cult like feeling and there is a LOT of gaslighting of staff and toxic positivity. Never again!!
@@LJL-4377 wow. But I can't say I'm surprised. Beauty sure does turn ugly.
I was in Young living up until about four years ago. Funny how they make you feel like family while you’re in it making them money but yet when you decide to leave because I couldn’t afford to spend the $100 just to get my $65 check, they drop you like you never existed.
Glad you got out❤ They only care about Money.
the secret and even some life coaching is NOT harmless. when trying to move on from my cult upbringing, i found the secret and proceeded to beat myself up for years because i couldnt keep my thoughts positive enough and fix my life, including self harm that lead to brain damage. i KNEW everything bad that ever happened to me way my fault because the law of attraction says our lives are shaped by our thoughts and feelings. i have cptsd and a few other severe mental health probs and i need medication and care or i cant control whats going on in my head, as well as having a hard time keeping my life together. again, the language of the secret had me convinced all this was my fault because i "let" my thoughts and emotions get bad.
YESSSSSS - it’s an excellent way to victim blame & suppress your trauma as well!
I’m so sorry! I hate that Oprah etc gave these people a platform. It’s so harmful. I hope you’re doing ok. ❤️
I'm sorry this happened to you. The positive vibes only crowd can do a ton of damage. I'm a yoga teacher and the things I've heard are frightening. I'm a realist and I teach the traditional teachings of life is shit, we use yoga to try to rise above it. We don't pretend bad things don't happen
LOVEDDD it. Love anti-MLM. Love conspiracy theories. Love when beauty turns ugly. Literally & unequivocally love every single creation you’ve put on the platform for us. Much love, James. You’re amazing!
Side note: Can’t wait for the next season if the podcast 😍🥰
My mother used to buy tons of essential oil’s from young living because she was influenced and made to think it’d be the miracle cure for her pains associated with lupus and arthritis. She’d even give oils to me because she was constantly buying them and all I would do is use them to diffuse and make my room smell nice. Years ago when she told me that she has to purchase from a coworker who sells Young Living to get her oil, I thought that was so weird because everything can easily be bought online nowadays. I didn’t know what an MLM was at the time and I don’t think she did either. She probably spent hundreds on oil from her coworker until she realized that a majority of it she does not need, and that the things she actually does like didn’t really do anything for her either. Thankfully she didn’t start selling them, but she was one step away from being conned into it. Young Living was super predatory and really made her feel like she had to constantly buy from them every week to not lose access to their products. It was a huge waste of her hard earned money on stuff that she was told would help her. I truly wish MLM’s were shut down and outlawed.
I really loved this video and I would loooove to see more like this as well 💜
When I was first getting into essential oils for like room sprays and cleaners, I met a lot of YL consultants trying to sell everything to me. There was a woman who was trying to sell me the "cure to my daughter's autism" using 3 essential oil blends lol
Omg. That is terrible.
‼️Yeah they are absolutely vile! I'm an in-home geriatric nurse and one of my patients had severe Alzheimer's he was in the middle to late stages. And he was on his 7th wife she was like 30 years younger than him she was like mid-40s. And OBSESSED with young living. She obviously married him for his money and then because they were married she basically had power of attorney over him. So she refused to give him the medicine his doctor prescribed because he was paranoid and scared all the time and kept trying to run away from the house. So instead of treating his Alzheimer's with REAL medication that would really help him she would try to treat his Alzheimer's with essential oils. And it wasn't his fault but he was a really stressful and nightmare client to work with because his wife refused to give him medicine! He would sun down really bad and the whole thing was just a disaster. I f****** hated her guts. I tried to go to bat for him, I tried to advocate for him, I tried to do everything I could but there was nothing I could do. He developed Alzheimer's after they got married and after he changed his will. There's nothing his children could do. Frankly I saw it as elder abuse and I reported her and was removed as his nurse. I have no idea what happened to him due to HIPAA laws they can't tell me because he's no longer my patient. But it was so frustrating and it hurt my heart so much. This was 4 years ago and I still think about him all the time. I doubt he's alive anymore but I f****** hate that b**** and she deserves to be scammed by Young living and I hope she loses every single f****** dime she inherited to pyramid schemes.
@@WhitneyDahlin that is absolutely horrific. Poor man. I knew a lady that would give her children Essential oils instead of taking them to the doctor. It made me so sad for those children. What Young Living is selling is so dangerous for people that fall for it.
I remembering asking forthe price of a lavender oil for cleaning and I received a look filled with hate 😅 Good, I never bought any other essential oil. By that moment I had 3 that was using for cleaning.
Anti-MLM + a Welsh Twin is a combo of my 2 favorite things, more of this please James 💜
Right? It's like my 2 You Tube worlds have collided
I’ve never clicked on a video so fast!
AGREE!!
Agree 100%!!!
What kills me is that Garry Young delivered one of his children at his own clinic. He held his daughters under the water, claiming she could breathe because if babies could breathe in the wombs they can underwater after being born because "the cord was still intact." He should've gotten life, IMO, but he didn't. And this was before the cancer patient, so he kept going after unaliving his own daughter. It happened in WA state where I grew up.
it took me a very long time but i am so happy that i’m no longer belong in “mormon”. it’s no secret that mlm is huge in mormon community… it hurts me to see people around me wasting money and emotions with mlm companies believing it’s going to cure them. i mostly feel bad because they always target vulnerable people tricking them that they can own a business and earn significant income. i am so glad you are talking about young living and how awful they are!
I think a big part of the draw is the idea that a woman should be in the home, caring for the children, should get married and start popping out kids really young so higher education kind of goes out the window. This would make sense as to how so many of them get duped into believing in the products, so being able to sell the (useless) products they now believe in and make (read: NOT) a little extra income to “supplement” their husband’s helps them feel more important? Empowered? That’s the vibe I get anyway.
@@EmmieHunny yeah I totally agree
“Only people who are in cults say they’re not in cults anyway.” Lmaoooo truth!!!
PLEEEASE do Rodan and Fields! I really wanna hear you talk about their eyelash serum lawsuit as well as their shady MLM practices :)
YES YES YES
Can't remember which youtuber that made a vid about Britney Spears' mom also a member of this mlm.
There lash serum, although crazy expensive does work. I've been lucky not to have any reactions, but my lashes grew like crazy! I don't sell it and I'm not connected with the company at all.
@@jkc8407 from my understanding the product really does work, but it works because it uses prescription grade ingredients despite being sold as a cosmetic grade product. This means they have different regulations and do not disclose all of the dangers/side effects. He did do a video about lash serums!
@@emmalinekim9822 that explains it lol. I love it! I am super careful with it. I'm always scared my eyes with turn color or something bad will happen. I feel a little better now. Thank you!!!
“I’ll let her explain- watch this.” *sudden ad break* I love the timing
You definitely should do anti-MLM videos you have the absolute talent for it. Love love love this video
I second this! I'd love to see him tear into MLMs!
As someone who gets chronic migraines, I do love me some peppermint oil, but I also love my prescription medications. I take my daily preventative meds and my medication for when a migraine attack comes on, but there’s nothing wrong with finding something soothing in essential oils. Just stop thinking it’s going to “cure” everything. And remember not to go out in the sun with oils on your skin! I remember my best friends mother in high school thinking she could get rid of my gal stones with essential oils and trying to talk me out of surgery. She was a sweet lady but that was absolutely nutty.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. Have you looked more into the founder, Gary?? Weeeird stories about him. I was raised with yleo since around 2015 just when my teens began, and my mom is still a member of the company. She makes monthly payments in order to maintain her "business" when she is not making nearly enough to make a profit (as are more than half of the members). When you walk through my parents house it's like a yleo pop up shop. Products for skincare, laundry, dishwashing, disinfecting, illnesses, workout supplements, everything you could think of. Whenever I bought a product outside of yleo for my sensitive skin or disinfecting spray, she'd take it personally. She's not very religious and she doesn't practice witchcraft, but she believes the claim that specifically yleo has the superior EOs and are effective scientifically. When I showed evidence that the company was misleading, and she'd dismissively say there's evidence for many different perspectives.
Just like "alternative facts".
Sounds like my house in the 80's when my parents did Amway
Exactly like my mother’s house. She only gets their products because she has sensitive skin/nose/etc. but I think the YL is changing her biology. There are claims that Gary murdered his minutes old daughter by drowning her purposefully. Also claimed the “paralyzed story” has no hospital or any other records of any sort of accident.
Sorry to hear this
@@julialucey4587 yes! He opened a fitness center or something like that. He made his wife give birth in the pool but held the baby under water for an hour. The baby obviously died and he was arrested. This happened in the early 1980’s in Spokane Washington.
As a Christian I loved this video. I do believe ppl will follow religion blindly which honestly makes a lot of them more vulnerable to being scammed. Religion has been a tool for control since the beginning of time and I feel bad for the customers that had to suffer
"Everything is just allegedly in my opinion for legal reasons" oh my god I am using this in all of my conversations now 😂😂😂😂😂 no one will ever find a comeback to that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I went to a craft fair (people sell handmade items, or MLM products.) I went to a table that had essential oils, and the women were explaining the basic stuff, I smelled one that made me flinch away, and the woman said “that means you are in need of that oil if you don’t like it. It means something needs a good cleanse.” And I was like that’s interesting, also it just smells bad 😂
It’s genuinely really refreshing to see one of these kinds of videos that isn’t going overboard criticising peoples religions and beliefs, just the ways in which they’ve been manipulated and can cause harm when you become too indoctrinated and rely on them too heavily
"He then decided to ruin other people's lives in a different way." You slay me! Love the tone fluctuation in how you stated this. All your videos are informative and well researched. I could listen to you talk all day. Your facial expressions are hilarious, especially your deadpan "right." expression.
As someone who grew up in an actual cult, surrounded by Young Living reps, this one is so funny and sad at the same time. The attitude at that time was very cliquish… like if you weren’t using these specific oils you’re “NoT a GOod CHrIsTiaN.” The whole YL and it’s Christian following is truly so disgustingly hypocritical, privileged, and stupid. So so glad to have escaped when I did and thanks for covering this topic so well James 🖤
I know and I get the "priviledge" of moving near their headquarters. I may be unable to keep my mouth shut and get myself in trouble.
It’s interesting to see how there’s still differences within one group. I’m a Latter Day Saint (aka “Mormon”), born and raised, and my parents always taught me that God’s medicine is actually doctors and real medicine (ie. God blessed us with brilliant people who have those ideas to keep us healthy).
As a practicing Christian… I cackled laughing at this! I also believe that essential oils are NOT on the level as actual medicine, doctors & science! 🤦🏼♀️
Thanks for the laugh today James, adore you!
Glad you enjoyed it 😝🙏🏼💜
Practicing Christian, herbalist, and traditional living expert here. I use oils, herbs, supplements, and a whole food diet daily to stay alive. I was injured by a standard medical procedure years ago and now must keep epipens on hand at all times, among taking other serious precautions to keep death at bay. I am allergic to OTC and RX meds. I had a life-threatening medical emergency a few years back and guess what? I took the damn morphine (the only painkiller that doesn’t cause anaphylaxis) and the penicillin to keep from losing my mind to pain and losing my life to infection. I don’t use a hammer when I need a saw, and I don’t use oils when I need surgery. Shew.
@@monstermcboo7282 agreed! Also, hopefully your health is improved.
Practicing Christian here too. I have some people in my church who do use YL oils and do think they are “almost” medicine. Like they go to the doctor, they have surgery when needed and take medicine. But they also heavily rely on oils for a lot. I am totally not in favor of them (especially since my mom is a nurse so conventional medicine was big in our house). I use a little lavender oil on my pillow at night to help me sleep, but YL costs a fortune and I can get an oil that works for a fraction of the price. I’m not sure why it is that many Christians move towards oils and alternatives to traditional medicine. I also have a lot of friends who are Christian who see naturopaths and take herbs and things like they are medicine. I don’t know- I believe God gave humans the ability to learn about science and medicine and then use that knowledge to create actual medical treatments.
A Christian who is not admomishing someone to turn back from their sinful lifestyle?... 🤔
I think you’re absolutely right and well done you for exposing these hypocrites and con-artists!
my anti-MLM world and my skin care world are colliding and I’m living for it
I love a good MLM debunking, they are pretty awful and I discourage anyone I know from buying anything repeatedly from them. MLM = more expensive it's that simple and they have terrible corporate unofficial-policies. More please
I love that she said "it's written in black and white" without showing any text to back up that claim...
I thought that too. You have the book. Show us the page about satanic rituals 🧐
If you want to hear some of the bananas stuff in the book, Savannah Marie has started doing an ASMR read of it. 😂
I remember learning about this after watching Unwell on Netflix. I knew about the MLM history, but the rest of it is just wild to me!
I woke up really depressed and “we’re going to be talking about satan 🥴” is the first smile I’ve had today
Same. That head tilt and I burst out laughing 😈
Fun fact: when I was a kid I thought “witch craft” was pronounced “witch crap” I even asked one of my teachers as a kid which one it was, “crap or craft” and she said “crap” so I went around sounding like an idiot for a good year or so every time I talked about it.
As a “Mormon” and Utah resident, it’s just insane and sad how well MLM’s thrive here. And don’t get me started on all the claims of “essential oils” 🤮
Same haha. Ew. I hate it
And then there's the "war" between Young living and doTERRA.....
I mean when your religion teaches that Hebrew people came to North America 2,000 years ago and that they wrote their story on some magical tablets that oopsie no one can find... it's not a big leap to believe that peppermint oil cures cancer. Mormonism is a crackpot religion and it's super racist and anti-Indigenous too. Sorry that's just the truth.
I don’t believe a word these people say. 🤦♀️ Love that you covered this.
Thank you! You are kicking a hornets nest and I'm GLAD. I hate MLM's. I've watched companies like Younique, etc. take advantage of poor, uneducated women. They should be illegal.
They technically are, but the regulations just haven’t caught up. People are getting crafty with their taxes, pay structure, and business plans to avoid the ‘label’ of mlm so that they can still do business.
Heartbreaking, especially the end of the video. Taking advantage of the seriouy ill and the economically desperate is disgusting and the popularity of mlms just shows how desperate people are. Thank you for giving warnings.
Man this leaves a bad taste in my mouth, I work in healthcare and have had family members with cancer and I’m Catholic. The fact that they are saying essential oils will cure those things is absurd and damaging.
As someone who's in the same boat whose relatives will go to quack doctors, I mean traditional healers because they want to avoid the side effects of modern medicine it's effing crazy.🥴😡
So do you believe chemo cures cancer? Not look it up 95% die within few years. This world is sick and run by Satan not healthcare.
GREAT job James! A friend of mine sells YL and its made it awkward and sent me on an MLM spiral learning all kinds of things about YL. You handled this topic with such care.
This is my main problem with religion, particularly evangelicals. This notion of being “I’m holier than thou” all the while being intolerant, close-minded, scared of everything and anything, anti-science, which is why most (at least in the US) go down the right wing conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Being a good human does not always come hand in hand with religion
You said it yourself. Religion if they the problem, it’s that some people are crappy.
I’m with you 💯! Evangelicals are such hypocrites
Right? Hearing her IG story was a wild ride. People actually think and talk like that? That is so scary.
That’s true about both extremes. You can say the same about left wingers as well, intolerant, close-minded, scared of everything and anything, anti-science 🤷🏽♀️
Thank you for naming them 'evangelicals'! I'm sick and tired of them calling themselves 'christians' as if they were the only (or the best) ones 🤦🏻♀️
I remember James once said that he's started to losing ideas to create contents. Now that he produces this series, I feel happy for him!
Me, woman who doesn’t believe in the whole essential oils nonsense but goes to church with a few that sell for Young Living. I am READY for the tea and shade. ☕️
Hysterical!!! Your timing is perfect.
Comical that someone who sells scams to ppl and lies to them about what essential oils can do, would take a “moral” stance and tell ppl not to allow demonic teachings in their house 😏.
I’ve watched sooo many young living deep dives and I’ve never seen it so thoroughly dragged in such a nuanced and hilarious way. Bravo 👏🏼
I dislike MLMs. They always make me feel cornered to buy something I don't want.
I’m only 14 minutes in but when I was a Pentecostal Christian as a teenager anything like the secret or manifestation was seen as demonic (as was yoga, meditation, Harry Potter, the list goes on). So basically as soon as YL started incorporating spirituality that wasn’t explicitly Christian, the fundamentalist sellers started freaking out. Hope that helps with context lol.
As a believer (not necessarily religious but i do believe in God), I am not offended by your video. I'm offended that there are evil people who claim religion and faith that ruin lives through mlm
SAME!!!
I'm not a Christian, but I asked a literal pastor about this kind of thing out of curiosity and he said that telling someone that God wants them to join your MLM scam is blasphemy. He explained it better than I can.
This _screaaaaaaams_ high tea gossip sesh XD The eye rolls, the side-eyeing, the adoring disbelief ahaha
I found you through CC Suarez & I ABSOLUTELY ADORE YOU!!
Thank you so much! I love her! 💜
Thank you for making a video on this! My dad got sucked into buying a ton of stuff from Young Living during the pandemic and continues to be sucked in. It's incredibly frustrating to see people get suckered into this cult.
I love this series so much. I love how James is just spilling the tea like we're his best friend 😅
Using fear and manipulation is the opposite of what a region is based upon. Anyone who EVERRRR tries to convince you of something and does so in a belittling way is more hell bound than you are.
I enjoyed this episode, thank you for shining a spotlight on mlms and showing people they are a scam. I would love to see more beauty industry deep dives.
A recently exposed organization that taught self improvement, NXIVM, was definitely a cult in disguise! I'm not sure if you've heard of the story that took place in New York. My indirect connection to it is one of the creators of NXIVM, Nancy Salzman was my mother's therapist back in the early 90's! And my mom really liked her and did well with her therapy! My mom died in 2011 and the story broke in 2017, so she missed all the insanity around it! Lol....just thought I'd share since you mentioned the self improvement movement is similar to a cult and you were definitely right!! Love your channel and this alternative to your regular content is awesome!
Omg this is probably my favorite video you've ever done. I'm sharing this EVERYWHERE
I wanted to thank you for bringing attention to the toxic MLM culture. We need as much help as we can get!
“Not speaking ill of the dead” rule is dumb, dude was a dangerous fraud and just cause he’s dead doesn’t change what he did
I wish my sister could watch these MLM videos and realize she's in a cult basically :(((
Hopefully she comes to her senses soon !
I can't even tell my bestie about the stress and anxiety I've been dealing for these past few years from the amount of workloads I have.. bcs she will went "I recommended you this oil bla bla bla.." Urghh just stop promoting your oil everytime someone mentioning their struggles
Are you stepping into Anti MLM territory?! I’m here for it 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I appreciated hearing the history (and current occurrence) in your humorous but sincere manner. Thanks!
You missed the part in his biography where he's responsible for the death of his newborn daughter because they kept her under the water for an hour during a water birth. 🤬
ETA-He did mention it in passing later in the vid. You can find the info on Gary Young's Wikipedia page.
He should be jailed!
WTF!?? Are you serious 😰💔
@@suziek888 well our court system is about that insane in jailing nearly half the planet so...may as well start jailing the dead too?! Duh! This country has become stark raving mad!
This is my second time watching because I'm playing your list. You summed it up perfectly, you can believe in something outside yourself, or you can believe you are in control, the only difference is that and the amount of ritual you feel you have to go through to ask for what you want
lol love tbe opening devil worship music and footage of someone doing the worm.
😂
You did so well covering this James!!! 👏 👍
I love how you put out the details on this one
🙏🏼💜I try! I feel like I’m not the best at putting a timeline together and including all relevant info but I hope it’s entertaining at least haha
I know I'm late to the party but I just wanted to say how glad I am that you've brought this to your audience's attention. MLMs are making their way to the UK and there needs to be more awareness.
If one more hun tells me their crappy oils is going to cure my Lupus imma scream
Omg And you just know they don’t even know what Lupus is
@@JamesWelsh exactly! They can’t even explain to me what lupus is and how their miracle oils cure it. I’m always getting targeted by these huns to fix me because someone in their group had lupus and they don’t now. It’s infuriating.
Me too!!! They all think they can cure my lupus!!
@@erinwarner3376upus ought to be an easy one by now since the very first support group for those damaged by Prozac was for those who developed lupus from it. Now with so many Prozac clones out there there must be tons of people with Lupus!
Loved this video! MLMs have a chokehold on Mormons. I lived in Utah where there are tons: Young Living, DoTerra, NuSkin, Younique, Senegence, Maskcara Beauty (now Seint makeup), etc. I’d love to see more videos about these.
Loved this episode, MLM's are the worst, pyramid schemes of course. Great on how you pointed out that their basically poached by another company (allegedly) and paid for their clients(allegedly).🤔💬👏
Lol, the shade in this video is everything. Deeply satisfying.
I love that you did this! The amount of times I’ve been approached by YL shills. Maybe God gave us EO and yeah they smell nice but they’re not curing my depression and anxiety, Carol! That’s why he gave us klonopin.
Love this 🖤
Okay but have you tried snorting eucalyptus during a panic attack? I swear by it! 😉
I mean in some ways they can HELP with anxiety and depression in the forms of aromatherapy and things like that but it's no cure for sure. And definitely not meant to be ingested or used in place of real medication but it is often a great aid in treating those things.
@@HB-yg3ke ok we have to be friends LOLLL 😂
@@eveningstar8581 deal! 😆❤️
This video was so interesting! I know this style of video probably takes a lot of research and work to make but I'd love to see more like this 💕
The video of the lady talking about the manual and the spiritual warfare... was the most bizarre experience I've had in a while.
Love this one! If you don't know what these companies are, what these people are really selling, you can get seriously hurt in many ways.
Keep covering these kind of things, you did great work with this.