I don’t think you have to wait for any sort of complete edition of p3 reload. You can simply not buy episode Aigis. Just watch the cutscenes online. It’s not worth playing, I think.
I honestly don't care if they sue Palworld. Oh well. They had similar designs and their success is only because people think it's Pokemon on other consoles. I do think going after them over something like catching isn't cool and could cause issues for other games. They couldn't get them on the designs and it feels like they're going after them for something small.
Honestly, the Pal World company (sorry, I keep forgetting the name of the company) had it coming. The president of the company had always said they could settle it in court if there was a problem. The tweet they made about how they're just a small indie company trying to protect the freedom in creation / development has gone slightly viral in Japan too. Can we really call a company that's capable of spending a billion yen to develop a game and doing a joint venture with Sony Music to create a new company that produces merch and Anime as indie? Imamura-san (the Star Fox / F-Zero director) tweeted he knew this would happen too.
Yes you literally can call it indie, as they are an independent studio. The money used for development came from the development of their previous game(s) and other investments. Not only that but your sony argument holds not weight. Their deal with sony didnt happen until half a year after the game's release. They earned that deal from the popularity of the game itself. The real insanity is that Instead of using this instance of competition to maybe better themselves, Nintendo is petty enough to weaponize the patenting of universal game mechanics against an indie developer. And look if you dont like Palworld, fine. But supporting nintendo in this is the wrong take. As what they are establishing not only hinders innovation and development of other games of the genre, just as with WB Namco and Sega before them. But they can just weaponize patents against any game of a similar genre that outsells their game(s)
@@user-io9hj9ip2d Seeing as how said million dollar company hasn't sued smaller companies or placed patents on universal mechanics of genres, then i would say yes. Defend the company that is the video game equivalent of Disney.
Want to give an answer to DisneyDuncan's patreon question, as mine would be cut Pokémon, there are many interesting cut Pokémon designs that I can't help but think of what if it wasn't cut, like Goruchu, the Vulpix Pre-evo and the original Johto fire starter line.
While I think just having an upgrade for Switch 2 was the right move, I hope for whatever comes next that they manage to bring back having a second screen
With how many monster catchers they are out there I still find it pretty confusing, where was that mentality when Yokai Watch 2 was outselling Pokemon in Japan?
@@NintenSegaPlay You dont catch yo kai unlike pokemon tho, you befriend them and increase those odds with food they like. The only real comparison between the two is that there Monster tamers games at there core.
@@NintenSegaPlay That's why I don't think it's about the patents. The patents are just an assured way to prevent Pocketpair from infringing on other games in general, and this is a means to an end.
I seem to have a different opinion from a lot of people in the comments. Palworld didn’t really have it coming; in that case, any pokemon-like, especially the ones that are ACTUALLY like pokemon (lol), have it coming. No, Palworld’s catching heat because it was about as successful as a Pokemon game and competition is unacceptable. They’d do this with like, Temtem if it sold even nearly as well. The poke ball thing or whatever game mechanic they’re suing for is ultimately unimportant. They want a reason to bully and intimidate what they perceive as competition and are honestly being pretty brazen and obvious about it…maybe to set an example. luv pokemon btw
How is Palworld a competition for Pokemon when it is way more of an Arc clone. It would be one thing if Palworld is actually fully copying Pokemon format but it is not. They just capitalized on pokemon like design and flaunted that for attention. It feels less to do with palworld being competitive and more just Nintendo and Gamefreak not liking an arc clone being associated with their IP. Palworld being a Pokemon killer makes about as much sense as Darksiders being a Zelda killer. They are just different games despite some similarities.
not sure if ur knowingly agreeing with my thoughts or not, but 100% agreed my friend. Tis why i said palworld isnt actually like pokemon, and why i said they only “percieve it as competiton” bc it was pokemon-level successful and ppl associate it with pokemon 🙃
It's more of a half agree. Like Palworld probably could just exist because it is fundamentally a different game than Pokemon. They just can't really put a dent into the Pokemon franchise. But I do disagree that Gamefreak feels threatened by them in any capacity. So, i feel it is more of them flaunting their pokemon like design and associating their design to Pokemon that Gamefreak did not like. They don't want guns and violence to be part of any Pokemon discussion.
@@goldmemberpb ah i see your point of view. You could be right, its hard to tell their intention. I have a habit of trying to think about each party’s financial self-interests but it could be a controlly brand image thing like you describe . Hard 2 say 🤔
Regarding the Switch 2, I am a bit worried that Nintendo will hit the technology ceiling the generation after it. However, I also think Nintendo is in a unique position with them having hybrid consoles. If they release a mid-gen refresh for Switch 2 that’s smaller and has longer battery life, then I could see the console after (the Switch 3 let’s say) being able to connect to cellular networks and having only a small boost in power and still selling really well. Still, I’m not sure exactly where the future of gaming in general will go though with a lot of companies pushing for digital only. I can only hope that Sony will learn some lessons from Concord and PS5 Pro.
I've seen a lot of people being weird and supporting Palworld just because they hate Pokemon that much for some reason. They can't be reasoned with either. Really sad people. I don't see how a game with no story and focuses on Ark-like gameplay is better than Pokemon. You don't see these people playing Ark. I don't see how people can say it's better when the gameplay isn't similar at all.
I agree. I think a lot of other comments are more out of bitterness for loud Nintendo fans less than love for Palworld. Perhaps also how litigious Nintendo has been. That said, I do like what Pocketpair did with the monster-taming genre. I just wish they hadn't lifted Pokémon designs to get the game off of the ground.
Palworld definitely had it coming. I have a degree in 3d art and i can say that they likely ripped models to make a lot of their creatures. They were also in the middle of making a liscencing comoany for designs made from those stolen assets, so ifc they got got.
Except they didnt, if they did then nintendo would have sued them for copyright. But they are suing for patent infringement because they wouldnt win in copyright.
Great episode! Really enjoyed the patron conversations
I don’t think you have to wait for any sort of complete edition of p3 reload. You can simply not buy episode Aigis. Just watch the cutscenes online. It’s not worth playing, I think.
Tales of the Abyss mentioned! I put it up there with FF4 for older games I love.
I honestly don't care if they sue Palworld. Oh well. They had similar designs and their success is only because people think it's Pokemon on other consoles. I do think going after them over something like catching isn't cool and could cause issues for other games. They couldn't get them on the designs and it feels like they're going after them for something small.
VCG said in their podcast yesterday that Nintendo sued a cell phone game for patent infringement and gets a percentage of their profits.
Thomas Game Docs covered this in a video called "The most EXPENSIVE Nintendo lawsuit".
Honestly, the Pal World company (sorry, I keep forgetting the name of the company) had it coming. The president of the company had always said they could settle it in court if there was a problem. The tweet they made about how they're just a small indie company trying to protect the freedom in creation / development has gone slightly viral in Japan too. Can we really call a company that's capable of spending a billion yen to develop a game and doing a joint venture with Sony Music to create a new company that produces merch and Anime as indie?
Imamura-san (the Star Fox / F-Zero director) tweeted he knew this would happen too.
Nintendo fan defending billion dollar company, shocker
You’re in the wrong place, Nintentard.
@@chanhjohnnguyen1867 yes, lets defend the million dollar company instead!
Yes you literally can call it indie, as they are an independent studio. The money used for development came from the development of their previous game(s) and other investments. Not only that but your sony argument holds not weight. Their deal with sony didnt happen until half a year after the game's release. They earned that deal from the popularity of the game itself. The real insanity is that Instead of using this instance of competition to maybe better themselves, Nintendo is petty enough to weaponize the patenting of universal game mechanics against an indie developer. And look if you dont like Palworld, fine. But supporting nintendo in this is the wrong take. As what they are establishing not only hinders innovation and development of other games of the genre, just as with WB Namco and Sega before them. But they can just weaponize patents against any game of a similar genre that outsells their game(s)
@@user-io9hj9ip2d Seeing as how said million dollar company hasn't sued smaller companies or placed patents on universal mechanics of genres, then i would say yes. Defend the company that is the video game equivalent of Disney.
I just heard on another podcast that a company patented having mini games during the loading screen?
Bandai Namco
Want to give an answer to DisneyDuncan's patreon question, as mine would be cut Pokémon, there are many interesting cut Pokémon designs that I can't help but think of what if it wasn't cut, like Goruchu, the Vulpix Pre-evo and the original Johto fire starter line.
Persona 3 reload is such a good game, 50 hours in and it just flew by! Has amazing quality of life improvements
Pokeball lawsuit makes sense. Creature designs maybe adds onto the intentions
While I think just having an upgrade for Switch 2 was the right move, I hope for whatever comes next that they manage to bring back having a second screen
With how many monster catchers they are out there I still find it pretty confusing, where was that mentality when Yokai Watch 2 was outselling Pokemon in Japan?
@@NintenSegaPlay You dont catch yo kai unlike pokemon tho, you befriend them and increase those odds with food they like. The only real comparison between the two is that there Monster tamers games at there core.
Uh, I just noticed, my first comment wasn't an answer to that one, idk what happened
@@NintenSegaPlay That's why I don't think it's about the patents. The patents are just an assured way to prevent Pocketpair from infringing on other games in general, and this is a means to an end.
Not interested in any upcoming games, but I got spoiled earlier this year when Unicorn Overlord released.
I seem to have a different opinion from a lot of people in the comments. Palworld didn’t really have it coming; in that case, any pokemon-like, especially the ones that are ACTUALLY like pokemon (lol), have it coming. No, Palworld’s catching heat because it was about as successful as a Pokemon game and competition is unacceptable. They’d do this with like, Temtem if it sold even nearly as well. The poke ball thing or whatever game mechanic they’re suing for is ultimately unimportant. They want a reason to bully and intimidate what they perceive as competition and are honestly being pretty brazen and obvious about it…maybe to set an example. luv pokemon btw
How is Palworld a competition for Pokemon when it is way more of an Arc clone. It would be one thing if Palworld is actually fully copying Pokemon format but it is not. They just capitalized on pokemon like design and flaunted that for attention. It feels less to do with palworld being competitive and more just Nintendo and Gamefreak not liking an arc clone being associated with their IP. Palworld being a Pokemon killer makes about as much sense as Darksiders being a Zelda killer. They are just different games despite some similarities.
not sure if ur knowingly agreeing with my thoughts or not, but 100% agreed my friend. Tis why i said palworld isnt actually like pokemon, and why i said they only “percieve it as competiton” bc it was pokemon-level successful and ppl associate it with pokemon 🙃
It's more of a half agree. Like Palworld probably could just exist because it is fundamentally a different game than Pokemon. They just can't really put a dent into the Pokemon franchise. But I do disagree that Gamefreak feels threatened by them in any capacity. So, i feel it is more of them flaunting their pokemon like design and associating their design to Pokemon that Gamefreak did not like. They don't want guns and violence to be part of any Pokemon discussion.
@@goldmemberpb ah i see your point of view. You could be right, its hard to tell their intention. I have a habit of trying to think about each party’s financial self-interests but it could be a controlly brand image thing like you describe . Hard 2 say 🤔
Maybe Palworld could change the Pal sphere designs.
Palworld had this coming from day one
Pokemon was never gonna like Pikachu with a gat
Regarding the Switch 2, I am a bit worried that Nintendo will hit the technology ceiling the generation after it. However, I also think Nintendo is in a unique position with them having hybrid consoles. If they release a mid-gen refresh for Switch 2 that’s smaller and has longer battery life, then I could see the console after (the Switch 3 let’s say) being able to connect to cellular networks and having only a small boost in power and still selling really well.
Still, I’m not sure exactly where the future of gaming in general will go though with a lot of companies pushing for digital only. I can only hope that Sony will learn some lessons from Concord and PS5 Pro.
I've seen a lot of people being weird and supporting Palworld just because they hate Pokemon that much for some reason. They can't be reasoned with either. Really sad people. I don't see how a game with no story and focuses on Ark-like gameplay is better than Pokemon. You don't see these people playing Ark. I don't see how people can say it's better when the gameplay isn't similar at all.
I agree. I think a lot of other comments are more out of bitterness for loud Nintendo fans less than love for Palworld. Perhaps also how litigious Nintendo has been.
That said, I do like what Pocketpair did with the monster-taming genre. I just wish they hadn't lifted Pokémon designs to get the game off of the ground.
Palworld is cooked
Palworld definitely had it coming. I have a degree in 3d art and i can say that they likely ripped models to make a lot of their creatures. They were also in the middle of making a liscencing comoany for designs made from those stolen assets, so ifc they got got.
Except they didnt, if they did then nintendo would have sued them for copyright. But they are suing for patent infringement because they wouldnt win in copyright.