Smash 4 Wii U - The Anatomy of an Edgeguard

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

Комментарии • 88

  • @bartymatrix7
    @bartymatrix7 7 лет назад +68

    Excellent in depth video. No one really talks about this.

    • @EnergyPantsSmash
      @EnergyPantsSmash  7 лет назад +8

      thank you :]

    • @pro1lex304
      @pro1lex304 7 лет назад

      Perrygrainz then you haven't looked...

    • @devinwilliams4527
      @devinwilliams4527 7 лет назад

      Nice Video Man, On Your Next Video Would You Talk About Megaman Custom Moves? I Really Think Megaman Is One Of The Few Characters In This Game That Benefits Alot From Customs. Other Characters Like Mario, Sonic, Villager, Ness, Dr. Mario, Donkey Kong, Ganondorf, Palutena, And Mii Brawler Benefit Alot From There Customs As Well.

    • @MrEmmanuel678
      @MrEmmanuel678 7 лет назад

      +Devin Williams bruh, customs aren't coming back lol. Just play .

  • @BoxicFunk
    @BoxicFunk 7 лет назад +25

    So looking back at that first Edgeguard example...
    Fatality used his jump, and so he used his upb. Then he got hit by Zero's dtilt. But if you look at fatality after being hit by it at 2:35, he jumps again? It didn't look like he grabbed the ledge yet he got another jump? That's interesting. Maybe he did grab the ledge for at least a frame but got 2-framed out of it. Who knows.

    • @JarvATL
      @JarvATL 7 лет назад +8

      Zerocakes You get your jump back when 2-framed

    • @BoxicFunk
      @BoxicFunk 7 лет назад +4

      Yeah that seems to be the only explanation haha

    • @EnergyPantsSmash
      @EnergyPantsSmash  7 лет назад +19

      I thought the exact same thing. He had to have been 2-Framed xD

  • @frkscheeks1528
    @frkscheeks1528 7 лет назад

    2:31 That down tilt was a two-frame punish. If you pause at the right time Fatality actually goes into the ledge grab animation (thank you magnet hands) on the exact frame he gets hit by the down tilt and since grabbing ledge refreshes your number of air jumps, that's why he was 'seemingly' able to double jump twice without ever touching the stage.

  • @toxas3063
    @toxas3063 7 лет назад +7

    When I saw this in my feed, I thought it was the anatomy of an edgelord...

  • @xhunterxkillxyou
    @xhunterxkillxyou 7 лет назад

    very very well done, ever since smash theory ended some people of the newer era arent aware, once again great job, being sure to spread it around

  • @jrex64
    @jrex64 7 лет назад +10

    Underrated youtuber. Subbed

  • @nonplayercharacter12333
    @nonplayercharacter12333 7 лет назад

    You recover high, you get punished.
    You recover low, you get punished.
    You air dodge, you get punished.
    There is no escape.

  • @BingBangPoe
    @BingBangPoe 7 лет назад

    Awesome video. Short with depth, and extremely well made and edited. Other Smash RUclipsrs would making tiring 30 minute videos.

  • @edwinvargas7969
    @edwinvargas7969 7 лет назад

    Great video, super well made!

  • @martzfartz
    @martzfartz 7 лет назад

    Well made, informative, and easy to understand video. Very good job!

  • @quagfart
    @quagfart 7 лет назад

    You deserve more subs :) Your content is amazing

  • @tylergosdin4260
    @tylergosdin4260 7 лет назад

    Falcon dittos? You sir, have earned my subscription.

  • @AndresFn
    @AndresFn 7 лет назад +1

    Nice Video! You have a new sub.

  • @yohankapri4285
    @yohankapri4285 7 лет назад

    Fantastic video! ^_^

  • @ulkimion
    @ulkimion 7 лет назад +19

    how do i defeat bayonetta when she is recovering?

    • @magrao600
      @magrao600 7 лет назад +38

      Pray to Sakurai for a missinput

    • @yackamajez
      @yackamajez 7 лет назад +6

      Spike her when she tries to grab the ledge since her up b doesn't snap immediately. other than that; there's not really much you can do

    • @cooldude6269
      @cooldude6269 7 лет назад +1

      Projectiles or something disjointed. The best by far is a reverse back aired can, but anything fast enough to hit her will work.

    • @casey6573
      @casey6573 7 лет назад +7

      Counter if you have one, or just ledge trap her.

    • @foreversevenfold1666
      @foreversevenfold1666 7 лет назад +8

      Bayo honestly is just a character whose recovery has to be respected. The best counterplay is try to predict the ledge option and punish that.

  • @Zurg_
    @Zurg_ 6 лет назад

    Such a helpful video

  • @TheFirstRamenKamen
    @TheFirstRamenKamen 7 лет назад

    Sooo. The first example. Falcon got his jump back 0.o

  • @srccretdude123
    @srccretdude123 7 лет назад

    can someone tell me why this guy has 2.7k subs.................... HE DESERVES WAY MORE

  • @c.w35t87
    @c.w35t87 7 лет назад +3

    Little Mac only weakness... no need to bait him tho the only option it got is recover, just a air dodge can take a stock.

    • @rodgeers7347
      @rodgeers7347 7 лет назад

      Cchainsaw West Lil Mac has a high and low recovery.

    • @c.w35t87
      @c.w35t87 7 лет назад

      Rod Gee Rs I don't think a good player will make a Little mac goes diagonally up. And it can get punish again if it recover high.

    • @rodgeers7347
      @rodgeers7347 7 лет назад

      Cchainsaw West I actually didn't understand what you said. I'm not being mean or anything, I am actually confused.

    • @c.w35t87
      @c.w35t87 7 лет назад +1

      Rod Gee Rs is ok bro, What I mean to said is that Little Mac is the easiest to edge guard.

    • @DarkworldLP
      @DarkworldLP 7 лет назад +1

      In most of the cases you don't even need to edgeguard because his recovery is so terrible.. XD

  • @user-ys1su5ch5l
    @user-ys1su5ch5l 7 лет назад

    so this is where scarce went

  • @MrEmmanuel678
    @MrEmmanuel678 7 лет назад

    Damn that first clip with Lucina, THOSE ARE MY EDGE GUARDS BITCH

  • @justinfrederick7443
    @justinfrederick7443 7 лет назад

    AMAZING

  • @rodgeers7347
    @rodgeers7347 7 лет назад +2

    EPS sounds like Shroomed.

  • @ogot344
    @ogot344 7 лет назад +1

    subbed

  • @miguelcarmona3036
    @miguelcarmona3036 7 лет назад

    is it just me or Energy Pants Smash sounds like MSC?

  • @LongLiveKeedYsl
    @LongLiveKeedYsl 6 лет назад

    Came here to get ready to kick my friends ass in smash ultimate

  • @MadPete
    @MadPete 6 лет назад

    Bro whats the music at the end?

  • @PK_LuiZi
    @PK_LuiZi 7 лет назад

    Oh!

  • @bluetannery1527
    @bluetannery1527 7 лет назад

    nice!

  • @ortcelo6947
    @ortcelo6947 7 лет назад

    At the start, you're calmly talking about edge guarding while showing clips of people getting absolutely destroyed.

  • @francoisrobidoux7003
    @francoisrobidoux7003 7 лет назад +1

    i have a question, i dont consider myself a pro but i have a fair amount of knowledge (know the ledge hahaha)
    after zero intercept fatality, why does fatality get another double jump if he, as stated by narrator, didnt snap the ledge? he used his double jump, then upB, then get down titlted and get a double jump
    please folks enlight me
    just saw the same comment by someone else, that mean cfalcon would "grab" the ledge before any animation actually showing it?

    • @PatrickDormanTurdleDash
      @PatrickDormanTurdleDash 7 лет назад

      Basically, zero got the 2-frame on fatality (if you dont know what that is look it up) and whenever you get 2-framed, you get your jump back

    • @francoisrobidoux7003
      @francoisrobidoux7003 7 лет назад

      Patrick Dorman i am aware of the two frame; but two frame refer to the first two frame of ledge grabbing, he didnt grab the ledge a all
      albeit the character didnt show any animation of ledge grabbing and it doesnt snap so im mindblown

    • @DineAuZor
      @DineAuZor 7 лет назад

      He did grab the ledge but got hit on the same frame

    • @francoisrobidoux7003
      @francoisrobidoux7003 7 лет назад

      Dine Au Zor so is it a two frame punish or a "frame 0" punish like 1 frame before the two frame window
      also i watched it over and over pausing constantly and fatality is stil in his upB animation when he gets hit, a 2 frame is supposed to be during ledge grab animation but before you flash

    • @DineAuZor
      @DineAuZor 7 лет назад +1

      He just got hit the first of the two frames

  • @biggestyosh4041
    @biggestyosh4041 7 лет назад

    3:46 Did you mean Lucina?

    • @EnergyPantsSmash
      @EnergyPantsSmash  7 лет назад +2

      no I meant "Marcina" as in "Marth and Lucina" because they bot have Dolphin Slash :]

  • @grenji4345
    @grenji4345 7 лет назад +9

    I'm early so u wanna hear a joke
    Me neither

    • @rohanix8953
      @rohanix8953 7 лет назад

      Aww, I was expecting a joke

    • @Chadmiral
      @Chadmiral 6 лет назад +1

      Rohan C. I got you,what do you say when Nick Canon isn't present at a Kids Choice Awards?
      "he's non-canon" :)

  • @Robwabo
    @Robwabo 7 лет назад

    You sound like Jesse's, from breaking bad, friend

  • @zacharyreers1651
    @zacharyreers1651 6 лет назад

    what is 0:48?

  • @Greennoob2
    @Greennoob2 7 лет назад

    You lost me when you said air dodge was a resource to help recovery

  • @Yeldibus
    @Yeldibus 7 лет назад

    I subbed this channel before it was cool! >:]

  • @pez1850
    @pez1850 7 лет назад

    Read if they'll go up or down>Cover the option [Be careful of counterattack and/or airdodges] > Profit

    • @EnergyPantsSmash
      @EnergyPantsSmash  7 лет назад

      Mudkip Southerncross that's a general rule of thumb, but you can also FORCE them to go high or low, depending on the characters recovery lol

  • @cooldude6269
    @cooldude6269 7 лет назад

    I just realized I'm the 1000th person to watch this

  • @JeffUy287
    @JeffUy287 7 лет назад

    Hmmmm...

  • @nicholasm9470
    @nicholasm9470 7 лет назад

    1st viewer and 1st like