Honda CRZ HPD - (Track) One Take
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Matt attends the Motor Press Guild's annual track day, where he gets to drive a wide variety of cars at Willow Springs. To Celebrate passing 300,000 RUclips Subscribers, we're uploading 11 videos in 11 days!
Matt moved over to the Streets of Willow Springs, a smaller, tighter circut for a few of the lower-powered cars. First up, the Honda CRZ with Honda Performance Division accessories! It's got springs, sways, rims, sticky tires, upgraded brakes, exhaust, and a supercharger! Can Honda's aftermarket division inject some life into the maligned hybrid? 
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They should've offered a non-hybrid model with a K series engine. I think the sales would be much higher.
GripHobby this would be on my wish list
That's how the car was originally designed, but laws were changed that dictated engine size to car size without penalty. A k20 in a crz would have required you to pay a heavy gas guzzler tax.
You can buy one now for about 4k. Just K swap it and call it a say
This car would still be in production had they put a K series in it to begin with. This engines vtec system closes two valves for every cylinder before the crossover which really sucks but Spoon sells a kit that fixes this and raises its RPM. 38K for HPD parts is a rip-off warranty or not. The HKS supercharger with Spoon vtec cam makes way more than 200hp at the crank. I can’t believe Honda thought spending R&D on making a supercharger work for this car was cheaper than just offering a non-hybrid K series model. It’s sad but during this time I think Honda’s fastest car was their Accord. Very depressing period in Honda history.
K swapping yourself is a PITA. The better S/C kit from HKS or Jackson Racing get you better than K series power and are easy to install. Honda should’ve just made a K series edition for a couple grand more.
Haters gonna hate. The trick to the crz is managing the battery boost and not let it run too low. It does just fine at 3000 if you have the battery boost to assist.
i'm so much enjoying these One take (Track) videos
as an owner of a crz i found this video incredibly hilarious
same cuz I got the later 2014 LiON one, which does rotate when you lift off as it has more power than the original one. not much but 135bhp is fine, especially here in the UK.
My buddy has one with a K20 turbo and that thing moves! 400ish wheel HP!
You can can get a great deal on these used if you gotta have a hybrid. Really like the looks of them. Just wish there was a serious aftermarket for them.
There is, all you need is the HKS gt2 supercharger kit, Spoon camshaft that keeps all 4 valves open before Vtec crossover, and a Hondata tune. The HKS car makes 320hp and runs a 1:04 at Tsukuba. It has adjustable HKS coil overs, the same coil overs used on their record setting Evo. I forget which brake kit it uses though. I think the front tires are 245’s. The CR-Z is an easy car to make fast. Just stay away from any Honda or CR-Z forum and look overseas. Those forums are toxic.
For exhaust is maintains the catalytic converters but has the HKS hi-power. You can search for the car on RUclips but it’s in Japanese.
See this is what I wanted from TST and/or drive. Consistent short form content with occasional long form content and I'm sure that'll make the long form even better too...
A CR-Z with its stock 136hp is quite enough for a commuter and the HPD's 197hp is also quite good for a 1,5-litre car.
What you keep forgetting is that if you put a 350lb blob on the driver's seat, anything below supercar level will feel slow.
Matt all of a sudden while racing: WHAT DOES THIS THING COST!?
{Reaches into glovebox)
The Stock CRZs aren't that bland, i like the engine, it's grest for being only a 1.5 though, but yeah, could use a bit more power
Crz is a great little car. Everyone always complains about the power. To be honest why don't you all just spend your money on American muscle for real power?
DAT PRICE!
Especially in the same showroom as a Civic Si.
Honda, you done lost your mind.
Wow $17,000 worth of add-ons for a CRZ. Didn't see that one coming.
I LOVE the way the CRZ looks and I think it was a big miss on their part not doing it justice, and adding 80 HP and some bits for 17 grand...Man...Too bad...
I wonder what the aftermarket is like for this car? Are there any cheap upgrades you can do to this thing or is it just cast aside by enthusiast crowd?
I've seen some turbo mods for this car, and Bisimoto has the most know of them from what I can tell. Some 500hp crazy kit.
Seems like it'd be a good idea to let some other chump pay that cost up front and you buy the car used after all the accessories depreciated from the price.
Yeah, if I wanted a Honda that bad then I would by a 2002 Integra Type R and mod that.
Something is amiss with that pricing. The HPD kit was about $5500. I cannot imagine that dealer installation is another $11k.
senorgato70 agreed .... but it prob has all the other add ons
Love these videos Matt, keep em coming.
Definitely didn't expect that large of a price tag for that car.
You can buy the supercharger kit from and honda dealership for $5500. You still get to keep your full length warranty too. Put it on yourself. No real need to spend boat loads of money on shocks and other accessories. Unless you're in to that. Just throw it on a used CRZ if you have one. Supercharging isn't nearly as difficult as putting on a turbo
3:13 Did you fall asleep? and 4:00 That's EVERY honda. In every video you do with Hondas, you never red line them, but that's what Hondas are known for. The power band is 6000+ rpms. If you shift accordingly, you will feel the car come to life.
Wow, 36 for the car it should've been in the first place. Good luck with that.
you know.. it's okay to like this car.. like just be honest, if you enjoyed it and thedrive was fun then just be honest with your feelings, just admit it, it's okay, it's cool man..
noisedreams It wasn't that he didn't like it. He said it was almost as fun as a Fiesta ST, which is high praise. Problem is that it's twice the price of a Fiesta ST with only two seats and no cargo room.
i like the idea. they should make a crz si. but like 26 grand instead of 38 lol.
I'll stick to my $5000 answer to every motorsports question.
I am really enjoying these car reviews Matt, I guess I'll leave you alone about the foxbody for the time being
So it's the same price as a 228i with M sport pack and some other add ons? Pretty absurd really, especially considering the 228i gets good mileage and can put out 300hp for not too much money.
Looks like a fun little car, wonder how it does at autoX...
So by a normal one for 5k and get an aftermarket supercharger that makes more power
people seem to be forgetting that its an import and the dollar is weak, the Civic is built in Swindon, England!
you seemed to enjoy that car far more then the GTI for example :P
leolol The GTI is all business, especially on a big open track like Big Willow. Had I driven the GTI on streets, (and had it been a Performance Pack equipped car) I probably would have liked it as much or more.
+TheSmokingTire I think penis pumps work better than pocket pussys. Growth>Girth
38K!!!?? That's insane! This car needed a k20 or k24 like yesterday! And needed to be at a price range of 20 to 24k..damn
I love the looks of the crz, I wish Honda would drop the hybrid gimmick on it. Would make the car a lot cheaper plus save weight
Honda should have done something like the b16 vtec that had 180hp and then put the ima hybrid system witch adds power and then the supercharger on top of that. it would have had something like 220-230hp at least and would have been sweet. or even do what they where saying they where going to do to the new integra and add 2 rear 50hp 50ftlb electric motors on the back. that would make it about 280hp and it would have a super strong low rpm power from the electric motors. just a thought
Yes. I thought about getting one of these cheap on the used market, and replacing everything in it and adding the supercharger myself. Supercharger 5k, improved battery is 1.2k, exhaust is another thousand, and let's say another thousand for intake and cooling. A few hundred for a throttle body and engine rebuild kit (who knows how the previous owner treated it) a few hundred for rebuilding the interior and... I've spent a monstrous amount of time and money to get roflstomped by a ecoboost mustang. I still want to get one, but I'm just going to put a lewd anime wrap on it.
Would have been neat to see you run this course in the BRZ. I was disappointed that it was the short course but can u imagine whoever was driving horribly in the white Camaro (BRZ video) blasting off course from running the long course? It would end up like the guy in the black tuned WRX video.
Anywho, great video of a not great car, keep it up
I could never consider a car with torsion beam rear suspension. Besides, for that money, you can find a Mitsu dealer to sell you a new Evo.
Fiesta has torsion beam. And it's praised non-stop by everyone and anyone
maximus9401 performance wise the torsion beam is fine. But on the street it kinda sucks in a sporty car. Extra harsh ride when compared to others. I dd a turbo Cobalt and speed bumps are especially bad.
***** meh. Par for the course. You buy a performance car, you expect to have some compromises.
maximus9401 but when you compare to a performance car with true independent suspension it's still noticeably rougher. Should it be a deal breaker? For me no, others maybe.
***** yup, totally agree
If you want to make the CR-Z faster than a K swap, go with the HKS GT2 supercharger, Spoon cam that allows all 4 valves to open precrossover, and the Hondata. So much cheaper than the lower quality HPD parts and will produce more than 250hp at the wheels whereas HPD only makes 197hp at the crank (yawn). 20 years later and Honda manages to achieve just about the same power to weight for the price of a lightly used Corvette Z06. This is why I protest Honda ever rehashing an S2000. It’ll be crap.
HPD Front Brake Kit (45250-F27S-A04) - $1,530.00
HPD Sport Exhaust (18300-F27S-A05) - $1,164.00
HPD Rear Diffuser (71502-F27S-A02) - $288.00
HPD Sport Suspension (51200-F27S-A00) - $1,110.00
HPD Limited Slip Differential (41100-F27S-A20) - $990.00
HPD Sport Clutch (22000-F27S-A01) - $462.00
HPD Supercharger Price (06100-F27S-A00) - $4,995.00
Total: $10,539.00
These are the actual retail prices you should expect to pay to load up a CR-Z with HPD parts when buying parts online. Way off from what is claimed in the video... Buying from a dealer and having them install it is where you will get bent over. The total does not include the HPD spoiler, HPD decals or HPD wheels, which are optional preferences that will not have much benefit to performance.
While it still might not have enough performance in the straights for those guys who like to compensate for their lacking driving skills, the CR-Z is a very formidable beast in the corners. Yes, I agree it comes from the factory with very mild performance capability, but it does have a ton of potential if you are willing to mod, which if you are buying a car to track/autocross/etc. you will be spending several thousand dollars anyways no matter what car you buy. The only difference is that the CR-Z stands to gain so much more from those mods, because you are starting with so much less. Modding a car that's already set up for good performance, means you are replacing already pretty good parts for slightly better parts, while with the CR-Z you are replacing "hybridy" parts with waaaay better parts.
I'm one of the few who tracks his CR-Z and does autocross events, as well as a yearly visit to the Tail of the Dragon, so if you want to see some videos of someone doing those things with a modded CR-Z, check out my RUclips Channel...
Anyway, I rather enjoy the "black sheep" status of the CR-Z, because the type of people who are insecure about their masculinity and those who need to puff up their huge egos are pretty much non-existent in our community. I am literally the biggest jerk on our forum and I'm still pretty tame in the realm of internet "assholery". Keep on hating guys; it only encourages us and it reaffirms that we chose the right car...
Well put
Well said, and it's not like HPD parts are the only options out there for performance upgrades, either. Suspension, exhaust, brakes, and clutches all exist for less with arguably better performance from other established parts companies.
Donde puedo comprar hpd para mi honda crz
Don't get me wrong, I like the CR-Z, and I'm strongly considering getting one as a daily (hence why I'm watching this video). It's never going to be a performance bargain though. Straight line performance shouldn't be dismissed either. If you want to have a fast track car, it needs to be able to accelerate quickly. Momentum helps for sure, but you can't get much of it without some power. Autocross is a different story of course, and I bet the CR-Z would do quite well at that with a few upgrades.
You should do one in the canyons of this car. Might find it a bit better
I'm a fan of Hondas, but it is fucking ridiculous to charge that insane amount of money. I wouldn't pay more than 5 grand for all those things to be added on. I'm sure you could do all that anyway with aftermarket if you really wanted to for a fraction of the cost.
I'm not sure you understand how expensive supercharging a one year old car is
Wayne Chiang Are you being serious or you joking?
maximus9401 definitely being serious, obviously 5k is a little steep, but it is OEM so that means warrantied by honda. Good luck super charging this car by yourself for less than 4k and it definitely would void any warranty.
EDIT:
Just finished watching the full video, idk where the fuck they get off saying its 38k, on the honda of america website you can order the hpd package for an additional 6k.
Plus it is still a CRZ.
ShotsDesignsHD
An ex starts at 24k, adding foglights, spoiler, splashguards, wheel locks, and the rear diffuser added 2k, It reaches close to 27 with all the ricer accessories (will admit it looks ok, wouldn't want it as my daily though). So if you figure in the supercharger, ecu, brakes, etc...it'll touch 38 pretty easy.
Cut and pasted from honda's website. They WON'T list the price for some reason so we're left to speculate.
Honda Performance Development (HPD) adds performance to every product we develop, from grassroots to pinnacle; from the track and now to the street. The same innovation that has driven two decades of unprecedented success in pinnacle motorsports is at the core of HPD’s street performance brand. HPD’s products are for those who truly desire proven performance without sacrificing the reliability that comes with the Honda name. Click here to learn more about HPD Street Performance.
Accessories:
HPD Emblem / Decal Kit
HPD Sport Suspension Kit
HPD Front Brake Kit
HPD Supercharger (6MT models only)1
HPD Limited-Slip Differential
HPD Clutch
HPD 18-Inch Alloy Wheel2
HPD Sport Exhaust / Diffuser Kit
Front Lip Spoiler
Decklid Spoiler
1The HPD Supercharger System boosts the 2013 and 2014 CR-Z’s total powertrain output up to 197 hp (vs. 130 hp in the stock 2013 and 2014 CR-Z).
The HPD Supercharger System is available exclusively for the CR-Z manual transmission models ONLY and DOES NOT apply for CVT transmission equipped models.
The HPD Supercharger requires unleaded gasoline of 91 octane or higher, and an ECM/PCM software update. Use Honda Ultimate Synthetic 0w-20 engine oil.
Dealer requirements for Executive Order D-728 issued for the HPD CR-Z Supercharger by the Air Resources Board; the HPD CR-Z Supercharger System may not be installed on a new motor vehicle before the vehicle has been sold to a customer, or concurrent with the sale of a new vehicle to a consumer. This system may be installed (1) on a pre-owned vehicle at any time, or (2) on a new vehicle only after the vehicle has been sold to a consumer and as part of a separate transaction.
2Replacement tires required. Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires (215/40R18 89Y) are recommended but not included.
Specifications:
Engine
Engine Type:
Displacement:
Horsepower (estimated):
Torque (estimated):
Differential:
Clutch:
Chassis
Front Brakes:
Wheels:
Tires:
Suspension:
Supercharged In-line 4-Cylinder
1497 cc
197-hp* @ 6250rpm
176 ft-lbs* @ 4850rpm
Advanced Limited-Slip Helical Gear Type
Carbon Semi-Metallic Six-Puck Street Performance Type
4-piston Aluminum Caliper / 300mm, Directionally-Ventilated Rotors
18-Inch Alloy Wheels
P215/40 R18 89Y
Lowered by 10mm
Front Spring Rate: 26.3 N/mm (150 lb/in)
Rear Spring Rate: 29.4 N/mm (168 lb/in)
HPD Supercharger Parts
Centrifugal Supercharger
Supercharger Pulley Set
Supercharger Traction Oil Cooler
HPD Airbox System
HPD Air to Air Intercooler
High Flow Injectors
HPD Washer Bottle
Centrifugal Supercharger
ECU Re-Flashed by HPD
© 2013 American Honda Motor Co., Inc. - All Rights Reserved. Honda® , the "H" logo® , HPD Honda Performance Development® , CR-Z® , and the distinctive design elements of Honda vehicles and logos are trademarks and intellectual property of Honda Motor Co., Ltd. Some Honda accessories may not comply with state laws for retail. Please check with your state law. Make an intelligent decision. Buckle up. Drive safely.
*Preliminary performance data presented; estimated +2/-4%.
Great commentary. Any mishaps at the track? I keep waiting for someone to get in over their head and swap ends while your putting a little heat on...... and usually your in a car with half the juice!
you seem to be enjoying it a lot lool, give you a bit of challenge to keep it in range.
Should compare the numbers on this to a 2004 SVT Focus. I think the SVTF would be able to go a around a track faster even though it's 10 years older. And 197bhp from a SC 1.5L...that's it? Honda B16's were making just over 160bhp back in 1997... Just doesn't seem like it would appeal to me, but then again I haven't seen it in person nor driven it.
Honda Please make a non-hybrid Crz, thanks (Management)
Does your name happen to be Aaron, and if so, let me ask you this; Ghustle?
Nah, its not, but Ghustle sounds hella cool
AxshunJaxon Jackson I want a CRZ with more hybridness -> a more powerful electric motor and denser batteries so more acceleration, more MPG yay
Seems like they're trying to do two things at the same time going in opposite directions. Starting off with a Hybrid doesn't seem like a wise choice because it is fundamentally opposed to performance trading for economy and efficiency.
Not sure what Honda was thinking on this one. Specially at that price. There is SO MUCH you can buy at that price point.
$38k is madness... But would it be worth it at like $25k? I figure if they're gonna compete with stuff with ST badges, it should at least cost around the same.
38k! Have they sold one yet?
It looked like it was fun. Unfortunately I don't think its awhere near 38k fun.
Hey Matt, I'm considering buying one of these used, especially because I can get one cheap with under 100k miles. I test drove one (unmodified) and it was actually pretty nice. Would you recommend it or would your point to something else?
Did you buy it? They are good buys used. Despite what people think, they can be made very fast without the K swap which is overrated. They are great daily drivers and there’s not a better gauge cluster on any other car in its price range.
Supercharger kit for these is insanely overpriced. $5000+ for
Hey Matt , did you feel like this little Honda was more fun to drive/faster and the FRS you drove in the previous video?
Small_Block no, not really.
But would you choose one of these over it as a daily driver? Especially for those of us in colder climates where rwd+snow=stuck, a fair bit (I get stuck in my AWD here sometimes, and we have crazy ridiculous hills).
Just looking ahead to the further hybridization and electrification of cars, I'm a tech and I think it would be a great starting point, and eventually get some more current through that 'IMA' (also want to 'reverse engineer' it/one and pop it on a rotary or something for that low end torque/added 'efficiency')
Srs question though as prices are pretty close for me up here in canada. Plus there are SOOOO many FRS/BRZ(s) where I live (work at Subbie dealership, service(d) a fair few), hell even a guy in my Auto Tech class owned one... lol
Anyways, cheers Matt/All
How does the hybrid system in this thing work? It seems to me like this thing is a little P1, or i8.
Lol, $38k? Good luck with that Honda. Even within the Honda lineup this car makes zero sense at that price. It costs $6k more than a loaded Accord 6MT and $13k more than the Civic Si.
CR-Z ah. Why didn't Honda offer a non hybrid model? Would've been a fun entry level car.
awesome :D
they should lay down the cones in the direction you're supposed to turn....
$38000 is too much. For that amount of money you can pretty much get a sti or an evo.
I've seen the HPD Supercharger (06100-F27S-A00) selling for 3900.00 not bad on a base or even ex.
Well, at least we know what the Honda geek with too much money will be driving at the autocross
I was already skeptical about getting a CR-Z (and honestly, I really am shopping for a new car)... but to see how much it would cost to make this car somewhat comparable to the competition is... yeah no not gonna buy it. Someone else can buy this car.
The crazy thing is, my 06 SI can get 40mpg if I drive it at 55mph (which, I know is super slow) but I had to follow someone in a trailer on a 800mi move. And it got 40mpg. It has 197hp, FWD, 6spd manual, etc.. Its a 2 door, and still can hold more stuff than a CRZ. All the meanwhile, costing me $12000 when it had 45k miles on it in 2011 (90k on the clock now) I mean, why the hell would I spend $38000 on a new car that has same amount of horsepower and roughly same mpg? Only thing I've done is put a set of new tires on it, and just did the brakes for the first time. Original everything else. I had the factory recall on control arms. And they gave me new set of tires for it. So I'd say get a used Si, plan on spending money for a new clutch plus install, because primarily kids like to romp on them pretty hard. And then take the rest of your money and save it for something that is actually fast. There aren't many cars that cost under $15k that get over 30mpg and are fun to drive.
The CR-Z rotates thanks to the weight of the battery pack hanging out over the ass of the car.
You misspelled proper trail-braking
197 HP is slow on a small light car??
He was referring to the regular CRZ.
The CRZ stock is about the same weight as an FRS, which everyone and their mom complains is too slow. This supercharger brings it up to the same horsepower as the FRS, while adding more weight. So yes, it's slow.
theshonen8899 if you think this isn't much faster than a frs in a straight line bro I'm just going to laugh. You might be one of those spec racers. goes by specs on a paper.
This 197 hp hybrid will smoke most of cars on the road
Lol. This was pretty funny
This shows that Honda can still make a fun car, but they've priced themselves out on this one... However, at least there's proof that Honda still knows how to make a fun car.
Laughably overpriced, sure. But this is a glimpse of what the future of tuning will look like I think, getting the most track performance and fun out of a small displacement hybrid powerpant.
That's fine and all... but this is all $38k gets you? You're into a BMW at that point.
OVERPRICED my friend. The type R an NSX an the 8thgen Si was the best car honda made an I Own a 8th gen Si with bolt on's (flashpro) honda hasn't done nothing special lately even the 9th gen Si is wack smh. They should had performance parts for the 8th gen Si while ago. Other cAr companies been having performance part already. An I know Honda has money to spent. They are spending toooooo much money on the new NSX. But I heard a turbo S2000 is coming out next year. But I have kids too bad I can't enjoy it lol :(
LOL 38k! Yea right why would you buy this over uhm an STI, brz, focus/fiesta ST, gti, really the list goes on & on
These anemic hatches are a bore indeed. Could you imagine a Honda V8 powered larger platform (even ifs it Acura)?
As soon as you said your volt was better you lost credibility in my eyes talking about this car. You like the turbo fit. Which shares it's engine with a crz minus the electric motor.
does the "HPD" mean it's a dealer option, or are these just aftermarket parts? I mean, if you for whatever reason decided to buy a CRZ and now you get tuning parts with factory warranty, there's nothing wrong about that. But buying a new car like that for that kind of money... it does not make any sense.
"HPD" means Honda Performance Division, and you can order those parts from your local Honda dealer.
Pricing a 190hp Honda at almost 40K?!... oh Honda, what kind of shenanigans will you come up with next..
Guess Honda performance division thought they were Nismo...wonder who will actually purchase at that insane price.
Nismo370Z mugen RR fd2 on the other hand is a serious FF track car.
I still think it needs a 240hp engine from the S2k or the Si engine at least without the hybrid bullshit
heh, old crx was so much fun, it was ED9 i believe , so light (like 900kg?), and pretty darn fast with little 1.6 engine thx to that weight.
whats up with these companies making cars worse and worse, they butcher these fun little hatches, same thing Mitsubishi did to Colt - not only ugly but heavy and slow.
$38k. Yeah, that's not gonna be bought by anyone from the "I♥JDM" sticker crowd.
38k FOR THAT?!
lmao @ 3:18 - wtf is that? They put the pointer cones there like it's a damn gate and it's empty on the other side? Who's bright idea was that?, lol.
lol 38k. maybe it shoots out rainbows and unicorns.
It looks like they need to make BIGGER CARS.
ur dumb
Would definitely take the 228i at that price.
What's the mpg with the supercharger?
I’m pretty sure it’s a clutch type supercharge so it disengages if not at full throttle so MPG will be almost identical.
if they simply added the civic si engine in the crz for about 23-25k this would have been selling out left and right. if they want 38k they should supercharge the k engine and even then it would still be too expensive.
Would've been cooler if they slapped a bigger motor to drive the front wheels and use the small vtec engine to spin the rear wheels.
Yeah this doesn't make sense, even with all the goodies attached-- I still don't think it stands up to its big brother, the Civic Si which makes the same amount of power naturally aspirated and only cost $21k-23ish.
I went to see a Civic Si the other day...the interior pieces felt flimsy/fragile/cheap...sad state Honda is in. The CR-Z felt much higher quality.
I'm not going to front though-- the interior design of the CRZ is still my favorite because it's so driver focused (reminds of me S2K's driver focused interior) but it sucks they never thought to make the car's weight their main focus for this car. That way-- they would be able achieve the gas mileage and performance status they were seeking.
$38,000 for a fucking Honda?
That's SS 1LE money.
38k! Honda has lost their flipping mind!
With the sc most of my friends get mid to high 20mpgs combined.
Damn that's about $4000 more then the Spoon crz and 60 less hp.
You say 197 hp qualifies for slow, oh America, where I live you're lucky if you have 130 hp.
Yes slow...relatively speaking. For that price tag, you could have an STI with 300 horsepower, a 370Z with ~330 horsepower, or hell, a Camaro SS or Mustang GT with 420+ horsepower. This car should be no more than 23-25k, where cars like the Fiesta ST and Mini Cooper S are.
randomocityvideos That, I agree. The best hp/price in europe is probably the Seat Leon Cupra, 280 hp €30k, but still nowhere near what you get on the US.
ReventadorLP1500-2 We are lucky. In the US for the $38k this pile costs you can get a 1LE Camaro which will beat a Cayman S, and go toe to toe with an M4 on the track.
Still, the FiST is sold all over europe and isn't that expensive is it?
I just realized that helmet is Trumps hair...
Honda North America is a joke. Dont fret honda fans, I own an 8th gen si. I just wish they would step up performance cars like Honda UK and Honda Japan. All they care about is the bottom line. Selling average every day boring commuter cars. They pour all their money into acura, and for what? I rather take a lexus all day everyday. More fun to drive
Better off getting a stock and putting on a turbo, rear sway bar, wider tires, bigger throttle body, suspension and high cam. Like I'm planning with mine. Gonna be a lot cheaper and it will be built, not bought.
"Built not bought" pertains to buying a used car thats modified, not a new one from the factory.
Can you Please Track a s2000
I'll keep my MINI, thanks
Donde puedo comprar para mí honda crz la preparación de hpd alguien me puede decir
Thats used Cayman money!
Wow for 38k you can buy a 1LE Camaro which will shred nearly everything south of 80k. This thing may or may not be as fast as the FiST or BRZ priced in the low-mid 20's. Why would anyone even consider buying this?
It's unique, to me the Fiesta is kinda vanilla generic...
buildmorefarms100 You're kidding right? Have you somehow missed every single review of the Fiesta ST from every magazine? Honda is practically the definition of vanilla right now, and the Ford is showing them how it should be done.
It helps that in America FiST's aren't very common yet so they are still unique or different.
Jaded, overweight, American complaining about this fun little car...
I'll just save everyone another negative comment towards Honda and keep it to myself :p
I'd take a used Chevy Volt instead of a CRZ and hack it to have the engine help with acceleration when in hold mode so 0-60 in 6.5 seconds or so and also put in a Cruze rear sway bar. Josh Hespeler of the Chevy Volt Owners Facebook group has done the sway bar mod.
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who would have thought though that a hybrid car wants to go fast. That what Honda was going for, to make a hybrid with a manual , name another company whose thought about that First hand
Are most of the people who get invited to this event, press and car reviewers? Not sure how you can comment on anything like basic steering feel if you don't even understand basic driving lines at the track (like that GTi in the mustang video, looked like a 4 yr old driving on autopia).
Cool little car but for 38k honda is out of their mind.
Its a hybrid sports car. $38k is cheap compared to the Mclaren P1!!!!
Everything is cheap compared to the P1. This is still a royal rip-off.
So you..........killed the crz lol
HA! my guess is that you would not take this over the 228i for the same money. That's ridiculous at 38k....