The Secrets Of The Werribee Line!
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- The Bustling Werribee Line Was First Seen In 1857, And Today Is Full Of History And Secrets...
THIS INCLUDES THE ALTONA LOOP LINE STATIONS
PART ONE OF THE WERRIBEE LINE SERIES, THE SECOND PART IS GHOST STATIONS!
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The accident at Laverton was due to the signal displaying clear normal speed instead of medium for diverging speeds. Sadly, this wasn’t the first time that happened and previous times was reported but it still happened
Hi. Do you know more about the accident causes
@@stevecini2964while running the Up port fairy pass B61 was the leading locomotive it was scheduled to pass through Laverton considering it's an express it would have stopped off at Werribee but while on the approach into Laverton the crew swore they had a top green but it was set for diverting across, they didn't know but unfortunately it happened, B61 hits the points well over 40 kphs probably hitting the bridge unlike the E type carriage which was demolished the force of the impact would have snapped the loco off the carriage making B61 remained upright while the carriages titled over too the right on the down line, idk much about this so I had too go what's closest to what I pictured from the photos of the crash 👍
@@STYtrainspotter2007 do you know any more how do i get the report
You're Melbourne's Geoff Marshall.. thanks man. Another great video!
What an honour haha, thank you for the title, and glad you enjoyed!
Hey mate great vid. Your photo at 10:22 is actually from 1979 when a wheat train crashed into the original Werribee platform, overturning and throwing wheat everywhere. You can see a set of wheels on the left platform and piles of wheat still around the tracks.
For many years after there was still the odd stalk of wheat found growing around the station.
The station itself was built on land owned by the Chirnsides who owned basically everything that’s now Wyndham. The Chirnsides “donated” the land so they’d have easy access to transportation for their farming interests.
Glad I'm not the only one who remembere that crash
Love these videos
Another winner! Thank you! You have no idea what a buzz it is to watch these shows from locked-down London!
Thank you Leslie, that is very kind of you to say that, I'm so happy to help make Lock downs a little better :)
p.s Thanks for the email, I'll get back to you after all my studying is over!
Melbourne had 14 weeks of lockdown- what are you complaining about ?
I used to use Aircraft station when I lived in Point Cook, before William's Landing was built. It is awful on a windy, very hot or very wet day. As you said, no shelter. Great video as usual Train Man!
Best old vs new comparison I know of is Nth Melbourne Station. Half the platform is old & half is new. Old half has full cover shelter from Sun & rain new half has minimal cover. Old half has ramps , ' exits now closed', new half has escalators that don't work after rain because drive belts get wet and slip. No drainage grates for wet feet at start of escalators. No one planned for rain when designs approved. Station staff still soldier on .
I love the station look, but some of the functionality isn't amazing as you point out. Thanks for watching!
Thanks great work really glad that you did your research on the naming of Hopper's crossing these were my great great grand parents I still have crowbar with VR weld on the head don't if it was Great Great father or not .
I enjoy your videos.
I apreciate the fact that you have researched you information and present the facts in anertertaining manner.
Well done!
Hello The Train Man, great video. Loved to hear about the western suburbs. Another terrific job well done. You forgot to mention that the Werribee Line was split into the Laverton line. Heeeee no one is perfect including me. Love it when you put up a new walk back in time.
Keep up the good work and good luck with your studies.👍
Excellent work as always. I always learn something new and Im an ex VR officer!!. just when you thought there was nothing new, along comes The Train Man to put us back into the classroom. haha
Haha, thanks Brian, what an honour to teach someone of high experience some secrets of the system!
@@thetrainman548 Don't know about the high experience. Like being a Jack of all trades and master of none!
Thanks for recording this video I’ve been waiting patiently
Glad to finally get it out, thanks for waiting!
Thanks mate these videos are a treasure to watch.
Thank you so much Shaun, much appreciated 😊
Well done Train Man, another enjoyable and informative Video. You are right S Kensington is "the worst" station on any line ive travelled on. Seaholme is quite picturesque with the single track and the line of palm trees. Also Seaholme Station is significant for another reason. If you (me) are trying to get to Williamstown and get on the wrong train at Newport station, its a long train trip (8mins!) to the next station (Seaholme) to get off and come back to Newport . Essentially all you have between Newport and Seaholme is open grass lands and refineries to look at. So Its gives you plenty of time consider your mistake. ha!
It's fantastic your documenting our rail history. You could have extended Werribee station history.
The derailment in the station, I think, on 11 Oct 1987, a train load of wheat carried in GY's derailed in the station changing its visual aspect forever.
Another further derailment across from the Racecourse hotel where I think one death occurred.
Another same location back in the steam era.
You could do a whole video on train crashes along the Werribee line.
I have a heap of pics of the 87 station crash. Keep up the good work 👏
The derailment at the station occurred in October 1979
One improvement I would love to see is the Metro 2 rail tunnel (Clifton Hill to Newport) and the Altona Loop upgrade combined as one project which could revolutionise that line, if tunnelling is possible close to the coast at Altona, then the three stations along the Altona loop could be transferred underground so that the level crossings can be removed and track duplication can be possible, South Kensington station can transfer to the Williamstown line
Mate, this is awesome! What a great throwback! Thanks for the content.
It'll be awesome to see all "dead" stations that we still pass across in our commute. Old sunshine station being one.
Another great vid. Glad nothing bad happened to you while you were in the Western suburbs
I would be more worried being on the Frankston or Dandenong lines than the western suburbs. The funny thing is that the western suburbs rail lines are statistically safer than south and south east suburbs.
@@125sloth you are probably right. I live in Berwick and travel through Dandenong regularly. I believe it is the most dangerous station on the network.
@@RyanMoran1992 I wasn't being critical of the majority of people either Ryan who live in the areas, it is usually the same minority groups who cause the trouble.. When I worked at the old Vic Railways in the 70's and 80's, (showing my age now), it was the same. Yes Dandenong is a strange place for anti social behaviour and vandalism on public transport. I went to Dandenong Court late last year for a "nostalgia trip". You wouldn't believe it, same family names, just later generations going to court, just like Mum or Dad used to, even their grandparents, who went to court for committing offences. What an embarrassment. It's laughable if it wasn't so serious.
Have enjoyed all your videos. Hope we see more soon. Haven’t seen much from you for a few months so hope all is ok? Your work is fantastic
Your passion for our railways is admirable for such a young guy. Thanks for a very interesting video. Well done.
Hi Max, another interesting video. In the early 1950s, VR put on special trains to Aircraft and I attended my first air show at Laverton Air Force Base. Sabre and Meteor Jets,Spitfires and a Lancaster Bomber. On the return to Spencer St R735 hauled the special, great days. Cheers.
Years ago, before electrification, the VR would attach a locomotive to a Harris carset and run it to Lara for the Airshow. In the early ‘70s a D3 was used. The day I rode it, a B class pulled the Harris cars.
There was a siding at Altona to supply the coal mine at one stage. Altona was one of two commercial coal mines ( privately run) in the state of Victoria, the other with brown coal thought to be the same seam as the one in Gippsland.
Loving the videos! Would be awesome to see an Upfield line one. Some interesting stops on it :) Cheers!
Another great video max.
Cheers Steve, more great weather on the way :)
Thank you Train Man for working on and uploading this slip for all prosperity !
No worries, I'm always happy to upload these videos for you!
This came up in my recommended list. Certainly worth the watch! Great production value mate!
The old Comeng train in Werribee is M388 which was built in 1983 and was withdrawn from service in April of 1987! I believe it may of been involved in a fire or crash.
The transitions you did in this video were so cool! Love it so much!!
I really enjoyed your trip down memory lane with the Werribee line. My old home town. Thanks for all the info. Well done!!!
No worries Roger, glad you enjoyed it so much. Also great to hear that I could take you down memory lane :)
Another great little history presentation, Max, with more great old pix and inserts about future plans. Looks like there's a lot of variety on this line, but think I like the sleepy looking places best! Thanks for posting mate!
Oh here we go, the one I've been waiting for 👍👍 my line (well, one of them. I also use RRL). Was sort of hoping you'd include Footscray given it has such an interesting recent history, hoping it along with Sunshine & West Footscray (could also be included in the Sunbury line video) will be included in the video about RRL
Footscray will be getting it's own video :)
The Sunbury Line video will certainly be coming soon, not too sure when.
Sunshine and West Footscray will be in the Sunbury video.
The Regional Rail Link is an interesting one, hopefuy I can look into it just for you :)
@@thetrainman548 I'll be looking forward to all of those :) have an interesting history at Footscray, I was there a lot when it was getting rebuilt and I've been there a fair bit since.
Unlike a lot of V/Line services trains on the RRL are reasonably frequent (about every 20 minutes during the week, not 100% sure about weekends) so might have to make a day of it but shouldn't be too hard to get too and from there. That it does though, thus why I would be interested to see a video on it, given how much research you do you might just uncover something even I don't know about it. Maybe you could use it as the start of a Melbourne Rail Projects series, after all it really was in many ways the catalyst of the major rail work we see today, it certainly was the first major rail project here in a long time back then. Or you could just incorporate it into a Geelong line video.
I love the videos man, definately one of my favourite train channels on here. Like I said you're very well researched and I can tell you're very mature. You actually remind me of me a little bit when I was your age. Keep it up your content is very interesting.
@@thetrainman548 just a tip, if you do end up having an indepth look at RRL, the website is still avaliable (and most of it can be viewed). Go to web.archive.org and type in www.regionalraillink.vic.gov.au, go back to about 2014-15 and you'll see it there. The site itself goes into some things the project Wikipedia page definately doesn't have, but the downloadable documents are even more interesting (and most of them can still be downloaded). Hell even most if not all of the photo gallery loaded.
@@thetrainman548 oh and of course their Twitter page is still up although not a lot is on there other than updates really.
I am always seeing people filming on this line and also at Newport a lot.
Thanks for your videos bro. I used to live in hawthorn and I get very nostalgic about my days in Melbourne when I see your videos.
It's my pleasure, glad I could remind you of your memories in this great city 😊
always thrilled for a new train man video drop
Bravo Max! I wonder how many will learn about Elizabeth Hopper for the first time, thanks to your video?
It is a crazy story, that may get it's own video one day, can't thank you enough for the help!
Good point Peter, I knew only a little of Ms Hopper but I now know heaps more.
The Hopper family farm was alongside the railway line....hence the crossing was kmown as Hopper's Crossing. There also used to be another crossing further out passed the Werribee race track called Brown's crossing as it was next to the Brown family farm.
nice callback to the West Coast Railway there
Thanks for this bit of "my history" ... I remember most of these things.
Another fascinating video, Max - good work, my friend!
Too kind Ian, thank you very much, glad you enjoyed again :)
Other mini boom gate for pedestrians I recall was Ringwood east
Nice Video!
They used to be a third set of mini boom gates at Bayswater station before they remove the level crossing
Didn't know that. There are certainly more than 2 haha, my apologies for that. I saw at least 2-3 filming today!
Nice one bro!! South Kensington station is an interesting sight now, with the Metro Tunnel western entrance.
Hang on Max we live in Australia mate the date is ass about.. 😀👍🏻
Sorry Max missed it lastnight got side tracked, just watched it now, very interesting information well done Max..
Love these videos
Good work TTM. Well done. Cheers.
Thanks for watching, happy to hear you enjoyed 😊
just a question why did you not include galvin and pastly station also same with the vline station to Geelong like werribee race course
They are coming next video, I put a note in the description :)
Love this man! :D
Legend mate 👊👊
Good job Max. Well done.
Your channel is all about metropolitan railway histories could you do something different about the regional rail network history I was hoping you did that. But I love your content
For sure, next year, I hope to expand to the Regional Network, and do videos just like this on all of the lines across the state!
@@thetrainman548 cool dude
Good video Max!
what’s the next video about?
The Ghost Stations Of The Werribee Line!
Excellent video I really enjoyed it, You should do the Secrets Of The Stony Point line
South Kensington is getting an upgrade soon
Excellent video. As always. Thank you for adding. Keep up the good work. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Very nice description of my mother's accident. Thank you
Thank you Steve, glad you liked it so much
Was your mother apart of the Laverton derailment? I am sorry to hear that
@@thetrainman548 She was the passenger. That died in the crash. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@stevecini2964 Rest in peace to your mother, I'm very sorry.
@@thetrainman548 Thank u.
Another interesting episode, thanks.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed again Stephen :)
Always Remember The Cricket Oval Across From South Kensington Railway Station With The Housing Commission Flats In The Background!🤔🏟️🏏🏢
The pedistrian subway at Aircraft will not be happening. They are building a bridge over the rail line for pedestrians
Nice video
Thank you, loving your Stony Point content :)
@@thetrainman548 thank you
So you know there’s a old Crane pretty much opposite Hastings station
Would love to see a video of the diesel railcar service that runs from SC thru Sunshine to deer park and beyond. Thanks for all your content, this ex Melburnian really appreciates it. You should set up a Patreon link.
Great idea for a video James! I'm glad you enjoyed the video, cool to see you watching outside of Melbourne :).
I never thought of setting up a patreon link until now. It was pretty easy to set up. www.patreon.com/The_Train_Man
@@thetrainman548 Done. Looking forward to your next instalment!
Wow, thank you so much 😊
Brilliant video.
The secrets of Sunshine and St Albans station!
plz do the cragieburn line
They spent millions of dollars on Hoppers Crossing station but no toilets and not manned except for in the morning. It actually takes longer to get to the train now than the old crossing.
All good points you bring up, maybe they should've worked harder to gain a better community input.
Hope you enjoyed the video :)
You asked for ideas for stories? About 20 years ago I was catching the train to Sydney from I think it was southern cross station. I might be wrong about that! Someone told me to look at some track there, as there were 2 or even 3 guages together, which made the points and track incredibly complicated. It was incredible to see it. Is it still there? Even if it is not in use. The problems and issues of multiple guages, and I am sure that there would be some, would be an interesting story.
Here is a very popular vid giving a driver's view of the mixed gauge track from the previous Spencer St station to Broadmeadows. From a standard gauge Vline N class train headed to Albury. The tracks got even more complex after the line north of Seymour was made standard gauge only with very little benefit and multi millions of dollars expenditure. The change was so poorly done around 2015 that the track is still being worked on to remove mudholes that caused very poor track conditions. This is most of the dual gauge trackage that also limits speeds but was used in Metro Melbourne due to lack of space.
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And in the reverse direction
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A great railway video.a pedantic point it is custom to say R double AF rather than R AAF.
Second point that until electrification the stations werribee and stations to Newport were serviced country trains the Geelong line and a rail motor to werribee. The Geelong flyer left werribee at 8 15 and pull in to Spencer st at 8 50. I note recent plans see a return of Geelong trains to improve travel time. The Galvin and aircraft stations were unmanned. Island stations were bad because of the number of fatalities. People would try to beat trains to the station or in that commuter zombie default a not be aware of a a speeding train. It should be noted that until the through to werribee service the Altona service was a mickey mouse service that operated from Newport following Williamstown services. I remember correctly there was also a service into Newport workshops.
WELL MELTON STILL HAS ITS OG STATION AN ALSO ITS OWN MINI BOOM GATES
ive been in a car accident at the cherry street crossing
Aircraft is still owned by the RAAF and is tecnicly classified a just a "PLATFORM" and not a full station. And the comeng underground is 388M. It was destroyed in a head on crash with N457 over 20 years ago. It is still in Metropolitan transit authority (THE MET) livery.
That's some cracking information, thank you for sharing. I did hear that the the 388M was involved in a crash after filming this, however, it is incredible how they got it down there. That information about Aircraft amazes me, is this the only place in Melbourne is classified as a 'platform'?
@thetrainman are they extending the werribee line to wyndham vale?
Mad video! Just wondering, where do you find annual patronage statistics?
No answer, but lots of people would like to know.
Do one on Belgrave my guy
He did Belgrave ages ago. Should be able to search for it.
Going to be a nice long video :D
Yay cool video
Glad you think so mate, cheers!
Also, if you want a slightly unique experience - you can catch Melbourne's only double deck bus in regular service (not counting tourist or sightseeing buses), care of CDC's 'Optimus' DD bus no. 135 running on route 190 between Werribee and Wyndham Vale. I'm not sure exactly when it runs, but I would think morning and arvo peak hours most likely.
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congarts on 2.22 subs
Still growing! The road to 10K continues!
U should do the bright railway line
I go on holidays at Bright, next time I go up there, I might film, great idea!
@@thetrainman548 i live in myrtelford half way through the line and dont know much about it so would love to see a vid :D
When are you going to be doing the Sunbury and Whittlesea line
talk about the v line lines pls
Do the mornington line next 👍
Soon, definitely soon over summer!
6:12
That’s a small plane ride
ah, it was certainly quick
@@thetrainman548 lol
williams landing is in open land and in the middle of no where i think
Big area surrounding the station, filling up with estates, 16th busiest station in Melbourne now
craigiburn line please
good vid ..however constantly shoving your mug into the camera is a little off putting when most viewers just want rail facts and scenes.
You don't seem aware that the Australian Air Force is always called the R double A F
My mum told me off about this after filming haha, my apologies, Ishould have know this too, I've been down to the Point Cook base multiple times!
If you ever want footage of geelong stations I can grab some for you
What a kind offer, thank you,!
We shall see, one day, I may need help filming the line, and station!
i thought this was going to be after williams town
I like to mix it up! I thought it was too, until more lockdowns came...
they should up grade south kengsington station
they might upgrade sth ken station once the new line is finished being built, then again there is not that many people that get on and off the station during the week from what i saw when heading along there
what on earth is that thing at the station at 3:03?
If I'm not mistaken, it is the back of a single car Tait train, search it up, heaps of photos :)
@@thetrainman548 , i had to study it for a while. i can see how it was modified now. it was never on my line.
@@vsvnrg3263 Could have been. They went by the early 1980s. Lots to learn for you.
What editor do you use ?
Da Vinci Resolve 16
@@thetrainman548 oh no my computer can't run that
hi
Thank you for wearing face mask !
No worries :)
wow
Did you spot the very new vlocity
I've seen it on many occasions, it looks very nice
@@thetrainman548 I want to travel on it so bad!!!!
North Melbourne and Footscray: am I a joke to you
Ah, they will be getting separate videos, don't worry!
Nice short video! I made a good video on the same topic
Cheers mate, I watched yours as well, good stuff!
whats your favourite train
Siemens, only because I don't ride on them often, and they are generally quieter, and walkthrough carriages! I ride on X-traps 99% of the time, love them too. I used to be scared of Comengs (when I was 5), I don't mind them now. Can't wait for HCMTs though!
The Red Rattlers and the Harris trains were the best trains in Melbourne👍 The Hitachi trains were bad some like an tin can for fish
@@peterausfranken Agreed Peter, So much character in the 'golden days' of train, seems lost in today's trains
What a great video think of do it
Thanks for the help with the idea Jake, great to hear from you here!
the Alstom X trapolis video ruclips.net/video/cg8Hdg_EEAY/видео.html
Where’s the secrets of the hurstbridge line? Haha
Within the next 3 videos, coming, don't you worry!
Id like to do a "secrets of Puffing Billy" but I'd need a few lawyers after it.
@@125sloth haha
Aircraft Station should be closed, its too close to Williams Landing Station (1.1km away) and Laverton (960m away). This is heavy rail, not light rail.
We shouldn't keep an under used, pointless station in place just to keep a couple Karen's happy, if the station was 50m away from another station, those same Karen's would still complain because they want a station on their door step.
In the interest of the state and of the majority, this station should be knocked down, so the regular standard of having stations roughly 3km apart can be applied, that way trains can travel faster between stations and that means trains will also arrive faster, with a better timetable.
Just knock the stations down and plaster a sign: Attention Karen's, your nearest station is this way, pointing to bloody Laverton.
As they say, the loudest are always the minority and the majority are alway the silent ones, that's why Dan Andrews will enjoy 12 years as Premier.
in my opinion, i wouldn't get rid of it
whilst certainly it is a bit under used and useless, imo it eases the congestion of Williams Landing and especially is useful for Point Cook (yes i know Williams Landing is superior but it helps with an additional one)
I still think it should definitely be skipped in the express times, but i personally wouldn't take it down
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