5 LIES You Were Told About The Ford Crown Victoria !!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Wether youre a fan of the crown vic or not im sure you must have heard atleast of 1 lie listed in this video
let me know if i missed any and add me on instagram @ mr random reviews
I worked for 11 years at the ontario plant that assembled the crown vic... I loved driving them, they can take some serious abuse and still perform! Pitty they stoped making them.
Im glad you cleared up a lot of the misconceptions around the interceptor. I would tell people but a lot of people wouldn't believe me
Lee Finnigan so you're canadian.
Pizza 69, Yes I'm Canadian. The only place that built them was the Ford St Thomas Assembly Plant, about (or aboot, if you prefer... lol) 200 km north of Detroit.
I just got a used police SAP 1998 CV sedan. The plastic engine manifold is cracked! The engine stalls out after 15-20min... 😡...
@@DavidLLambertmobile
That's actually a factory recall. The Ford dealership will fix it for you for zero dollars
They will being a new vic back watch
I am from Saudi Arabia🇸🇦
my whole family members owns Ford Crown Victoria or Grand Marquis 😂👍
It is a famous car in Saudi Arabia and all over the Middle East for its power And the durability of its structure
But unfortunately Ford has stopped making this model 😑💔
Abdullah Alshehri ... I like to personally thank Saudi Arabia for liking the Crown Vic. Even after the Crown Vic was no longer legally able to be sold in North America Saudi Arabian orders kept our assembly plant going for an extra 3 months. The final car off the assembly line went to a museum in Saudi Arabia. Somewhere on that car is my signature
@@leefinnigan1279 i dont think it went to a museum i think one of our prince bought it because how famous this car was
Get PI-SAP Crown Vics from 2001 & up/2011(the final production year). I just got a 1998 CV police sedan that has a cracked plastic intake manifold. 👎 Ford decided to re-engineer the engine parts & added a alloy steel type manifold due to serious problems. 🚓
@@leefinnigan1279 why was it no longer legally able to be sold in North America? I mean there's all sorts of them all over the place.
Same here
I've been an officer for 21 years. I have driven crown vics most of that time. The 2004 model I had did about 136 for top speed. My 2010 model that I currently have was governed at the factory to 119 but of course I had that removed and it tops out at 152 now. Bone stock!
How did they remove the governor?
LMAO I’m a CDL Truck driver. Fell in love with my 2005 day 1. Why am I making a car payment. Lol. Coming up on 10 years as a truck driver. Crown Victoria even the window washer and wiper controls work the same as an International. OMG that’s a blessing.
Just recently purchased I have a lot of respect for the car. It’s a heavy ass car although. Works for you and against you. At speed it responds pretty well but I can see why Police Interceptor Utility became the new line.
The car has good pick up when your rolling. For what it is. Lol heavy as shit. But if he’s rolling it’s real easy to get on someone. From a stop lol I’ll take a Chevy Sonic. But it’ll loose that mid range to top end. The car definitely did a job. But yes I agree it’s a slow car.
Governors are electronically limited. That’s why you see trucks fighting to pass each other on high way he’s flooring it doing 65-67 other guy probably doing 60. Lol you can remove the governor via a computer. Big issue with trucks we hog the traffic while we pass the asshole 5 mph slower than us. That’s why you see trucks fighting. We do feel bad too. Sometimes we wanna make a quick pass. Lol all these trucks are governed at different speeds. It’s not the truckers fault. He’s making the pass and that’s why you see minimum speed linits
Some people will say that’s stupid. Trust me you don’t want us going 80 mph. We will win if an accident occurs. So we are governed. Sometimes it’s a fight to pass the slower going trucl
What did they do to get it to go 152mph?? Please be truthful.
Lmao. Bullshit.
@@gregorygolden1296nothing just take the governor off 150 mph isn’t really as fast as you think for a car most modern cars will do that easy. Plus your not realizing these things are basically heavy af mustangs lol
When I got my crown vic goin 100+ it never felt like it was going to fall apart lmaoo
Raul Garcia right! My car cruises at 90 on long trips
Get that sumbitch to 147 and I guarantee you'll back off the throttle. Front end lifts bad.
Raul Garcia it never feels like it’s going to fall apart this guy is high as shit
140 mph top speed 👍proof
At a 100 my '05 is smooth as glass.
Nope, no "cop chip", but you neglect to mention a different airbox, MAF sensor and larger intake tube...complemented by a different PCM...power difference from civi to PI is small, but exists. It also isn't the gearing that allows a higher top speed, but the use of an aluminum driveshaft which increases maximum terminal driveline speed...allowing the PI's to be governed at 129. Vic's with steel driveshafts are governed at 107-119 depending on year and gear ratio.
You know what you're talking about while the guy that made this video clearly doesn't.
P71 - 3.27 limited to 129 mph
P71 - 3.55 limited to 119 mph
Nope
@@Cartier_specialist No but he is giving information and for that I thank him.
@@devinthierault The crown victoria was made by nazis during WWII. There, gave you some more information, you're welcome.
I love when I see these on Craigslist and in the ad it says “cop chip” 😂😂😂
From current law enforcement experience, the 04 could consistently peg the needle in the corner. The 05’s and newer were toned down speed wise but handled slightly better.
Wow! You say in the beginning that there is no difference between the base Ltd to the p71/p7B. Then at the end of the video you say they are completely different. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.... Exhaust, ficm, pcm, coil springs, coolers, trans, diff, brakes(size), & wheels. Hell you can't even get a fully loaded Ltd interior in the p71 models. I've owned over 14 of these vic's and have a gem now. Love all your videos, but these 1 had me wondering if you knew what you were talking about. 👌👍
this comment had me confused as hell...
Mr Random, watch your own video. And you kept repeating about the suspension but never explained any differences.
Dude I’ve rebuilt both the p71/p7b and the civilian model and they are very very different
For instance the tuning on the ECU is different, they may look the sam3 but what they contain different stuff, police package has more fuel added into the tune near the mid to top of rpms to keep power band going, higher shift points, higher idle, the list goes on, that’s only the ECUand not counting the rest of the cars differences, before you make these vids man talk to people that have gone deep into looking into these cars, I do love your vids man but come on do more research
Joshua Langhorst, thank you. I'm tired of the bs'ers.
Both my vics clear 129 easily, and they sail so smooth at that speed. Just don't nudge the wheel lol...
1999 did 140 mph ,latter changed composition of drive shaft slowed to 129 mph. get it right.
@@elliotthancock4025 Calm down.
@@elliotthancock4025 all '99 models had the 3.55 rear. 119 mph electronically limited.
@@UnionThugg Go back to sleep.
@@elliotthancock4025 stop talking shit
RIP those those with epilepsy
There is a problem with the top speed statement, there was a year in the early 2000’s I think 2003 or 2004 and up, there was a limiter set in the computer on the P71 at 129mph to avoid the driveshaft coming apart at higher speeds. The earlier ones would reach somewhere between 130 and 140 given enough room. The civilian ones were limited to 112 by the computer. You are right about the P71 and the civilian one having different rear end ratios but the P71 had a shorter gear ratio for faster acceleration, not geared taller for a faster top speed, the civilian ones had a taller ratio for better fuel economy (lower RPM at highway speeds) but again limited by the computer to 112.
Incorrect, California P74's are limited to 105. I
I reached 140 in my 2008... Took a minute though lol
Me 2
Well I got a 2008 looks like I got some stuff to do
Yeah I reach 140 and my Vic also I've got a 2009
140 mph sir I have no clue what you're talking about
crown vics are tough as nails. unibody cars will never hold up to the same amount of abuse that a body on frame car can. the panther platform was the last great body on frame car ever produced. 1979-2011 rip..... :(
1955-2011
talking in regards to the panther platform.
Yes,you're correct about all that. Great cars. If I sell mine,it will only be to buy a newer one with less miles.
yep i would never get rid of it unless you found a lower mile one in good condition. those crown vics on the panther platform will go down as one of the best built cars in automotive history. the are like the benz w123's of american cars..
+SteelCity1981 Your anecdote is just that. You have no evidence to suppport your silly claims. "Great" is not a fact.
There are vids on here where you can clearly see 140mph being done
140 KPH not MPH
The Police Package also included a less restrictive air box, dual exhaust and a limited slip differential option. The less restrictive air box and exhaust added approximately 25 H.P. over the civilian version.
Cool vid with interesting info. Back years ago we were able to get a 1990 Mustang GT that was used by state troopers. The only differences we could find vs the civilian model was extra oil coolers. Different gear ratio in the rear end, and larger sway bars. Those sway bars were huge.
Well that's weird because my crown Victoria does 140 mph
Jose M because your car has the governer off then
That might be because the speedometer need to be calibrated.
It's screaming but I've seen them hit 135 before.
Alexander Marson Mine hit 135...once.😒
Bantamdude Rodriguez nope it's calibrated for sure
All this and a free epilepsy test at 0:30. I'm in!
Only thing better than a crown Vic is a Mercury Marauder!!!
Sam Holdsworth only thing better than a crown vic is anything else
Ah, yes. Back in the fun days of NASCAR. Daryl Derringer and his Mercury Marauder. For some reason the names just seemed to go together.
michael watson Why are you even here?
TallTiger you’re right, it’s not such a bad car. It gets a bad name because there’s no hope of it living up to the hype that surrounds it. Hype that was fluffed up by fools. It truly is a decent car, all things considered.
Only thing better than a Crown Vic, is two Crown Vic's.
As a Crown Vic guy these videos are hilarious!😅
It is great that the CROWN VIC has made it to the the farthest all the way UP TO CANADA SINCE WE BUILT THEM IN A PLANT HERE.
Hey Dan, it's a lie that we 'Mericans are et up with the stupids. Only some of us.
What the fuck are you talking about where did I say anything about mexicans and stupid.
Dan, calm down. LOOK at 'Mericans. That's the pronunciation and spelling of uneducated backwards AMERICANS. The comment was meant as sarcasm. Meaning most Americans ARE aware of Canada's contributions in the auto industry. Come on Dan, ease off on the coffee. There was no offense intended.
Every fcvpi has a dandy sticker in the glove box and door panel that says made in canadia.
It's made in Canada because of U.S. E.P.A. laws could not make them in U.S. thank God for Canada. Long live the Vic.
There are other differences too, here are just a few.....HD engine cooling, HD trans cooler, PS cooler, HD alternator (higher amp output), Steel wheels, Tires. The HD suspension which includes bigger swaybars, HD shocks, stiffer and slightly lower springs and different rear end gears with a posi. There are more differences too, as the list is long! These cars are truly above the standard ones and well worth it if you can grab one in good condition.
Amigo... I respect the fact that you are an expert. The Crown Vic had two options on gear ratio available to Police Depts. One of the being the same one as civilian.. One thing. Police EEC-V had different idle strategies and shift points as different emission tags. Regards... X worker at Star Ford Glenda...
I have a LTD Crown Victoria from 1990 with the Windsor 302. I can hardly break 110 in mine, but the engine only makes 150hp and I have a 2.73 rear axle. I know fleet and police models could be optioned with the 351 Windsor (I believe it was carbureted) with 180hp and a higher rear axle. Unfortunately nobody really notices my car since most police forces and fleets had retired them by the late 90's. I still love my Crown Vic, especially since the LTD's had a higher value on luxury. It's a shame the Crown Vic's from '83-'91 aren't appreciated more, since they're truly great cars, and I personally like them more than the newer ones.
i am with you dude..i own a 1990 mercury grand marquis LS ,,302 powered ..i gatta say its one reliable car for sure and i also like the 80's to 91 crown vic and grand marquis the best...in 92 i didnt care for the body style change...reminded me of a big taurus ...
I wouldn't mind the Taurus if the transmissions weren't trash in them.
I like that model also! Those are REAL sleepers: GRANNY"S car L O L. You hit something with them, It's like a TANK hit them! LMAO
I own a 1986 LTD Crown Victoria LX. Had it repainted it's stock color Ford Shadow Blue, and it has a white vinyl top. Thing looks absolutely gorgeous.
Thats because 98% of american v8s in that age were turds. As far as value, its also because they made a shit ton of them purely for fleet use.
You are almost completely correct, there is a difference in the PCM on the P71 package. The programming is slightly different in regards to Injector and ignition timing.
Kinda like a chip 🤣
I agree with you! I worked at a FORD dealership, an it depends on the " PCM" to tell the engine and trans how to respond!
I worked at the st. Thomas assembly plant where they were assembled specifically doing that job. The PCM modules are definitely different than the civilian models
I remember when I first got my Crown vic police back in 2013 because I always wanted one, there were literally almost no videos on youtube and no one liked them, now 7 years later they have a cult following, I'm literally the hipster of crown vics!
Lie 1 from your video. do your homework.
The Police Interceptor engine calibration includes a slightly higher idle speed (by approximately 40 rpm) and minor changes in the emissions settings. The computer is tuned for more aggressive transmission shift points, and the transmission itself is built for firmer and harder shifts. The EGR system is controlled differently on 03+ vehicles than on 03+ non-police vehicles.
Not GEAR RATIO.
Lie 2
The 2006-2011 Police Interceptors are equipped standard with an open 3.27:1 rear axle (Axle code Z5), with a trac loc 3.27:1 rear axle (Axle Code X5) optional, and are electronically limited to 140 mph (225 km/h) due to critical driveline speed limitations (The weight of the vehicle with law-enforcement equipment on-board makes it highly unlikely the vehicle could ever reach this figure). An optional 3.55:1 trac loc rear axle ratio with 120 mph speed limiter was also available (Axle code C6). Pre-2006 Police Interceptors equipped with the 3.27:1 rear axle ratio were generally limited to approximately 128 mph (206 km/h). This compares to the standard non-P71 2.73 rear axle ratio with a speed limitation of 110 mph (177 km/h) for all "civilian" Crown Victorias.
So your 129 MPH is well wrong too. Since you said nothing about rear axle gears limiting the MPH and what years were affected...
Here is the info you should have stated in your video.
Ford used an aluminum metal matrix composite driveshaft for the 1993-2005 Police Interceptors as a measure to allow safe operation at over 150 mph (241 km/h), but it was more expensive than the regular aluminum driveshafts. Ford CVPIs were governed to 129 miles per hour. Ford reintroduced a 3.55:1 rear axle ratio for the 2006 model year Police Interceptors with a 120 mph (193 km/h) speed limitation to reduce the risk of driveshaft failure. Ford built two different gear ratios for police use. One had the 3.27 gear ratio and was built for highway use, the second option had the 3:55 Gear ratio and was built for city use. All CVPIs came standard with a 3.27.1 ratio open differential, however departments could order a 3.55.1 ratio locking differential for better acceleration off the line. Also noteworthy is that all cars came standard with an open differential unless Ford's Trac-Lok Differential was ordered with the car. Trac-Lok was available with the 3.27.1 ratio and came standard with the 3.55.1 ratio.
And oh before I forget. Your WHEEL comment. Well thats wrong too. See the STEEL wheels you mentions were available in civy models. they had hub caps on them. Only certain models though.
jack mehoff if you keep dropping the mic, it'll break! Lol My p71 has axle code x5. From my research I thought it meant 3.55 trac lock. Not sure but that's what I read somewhere.
jack mehoff I had the old 86 caprice with the LT1. And my granpop had the same regular caprice. And like you said i think the cop one had a different ecu or computer. Let alone a bunch of suspenion mods
you make the Internet worthwhile! thanks...can you share how to select a used CVPI please...what core essentials to look for?
Ecxactly my 03;P71 does 140mph
But yes I have a typhoon k&N Cobra intake and high performance sparkplugs running on 91 octane idk if that's the difference my buddy has a 2009 and is slower than my 03 he has some upgrades of his own
Michael Cuff
Your Caprice did not have the LT1. It most likely had the HO305.
My favorites remain the "cop chip" or "interceptor motor" - it's really funny that people think you could magically tune an engine to produce monster amounts of horsepower just by a chip that changes the air-fuel ratio and timing
WJ Handy Dad The Cop Vic’s didn’t cut out at 104 but would go to 125-130 (depending on Speed) top speed.
Yes sir lol hay by the way wj !! Love you vids sir
I have former and current cops that I see often, and they almost always ask if my P71 still has the "Cop Motor" in it. I always laugh and tell them " Yup still gets up and eats in the morning"
thank you josh howard
And they think it is very fast! its not lol its alot of cars that are faster these days, but they think my vic is very fast, i just lie and say yes it is lol!
As a ex mechanic who worked on the crown vic p71 for over 12 years i can say that the p71 had a different pcm which would make it develop 250 hp as opposed to 239 hp for the dual exhaust civilian model! Also the pcm would make the tranny shift a bit harsher and the cars had a 3.27 ratio for hwy cruisers and 3.55 for city cruisers! P71 were faster as they also would not crap out at 168 km/h cause of the tires fitted on civilian models! Most p71s had goodyear rsa vr rated tires which allowed them to go naturally to their 132 mph top end or 212 km/h top end! I know this from testing them out with the ford rotunda diagnostic computer plugged into the obd 2 port! I know this from experience!!
1) my 01 P71 did 140mph (it also had the 3:55 gear option compared to alot of cvpi cars that have the 3:27)
2) the computer do come with a factory tune that gets rid of "speed limiter" and has more aggressive shift points that's it no "chip."
Other than that this video is spot on lol
I'll have to beg to differ. The 3.27 geared cars were 140 cars (I have one), and the
3.55 cars = slightly better acceleration, slightly lower top speed governed by the computer. Ford was worried about the driveshaft disintegrating at higher shaft speeds.
Easiest way to tell is by the code on the sticker in the driver's door jamb:
C6-3.55 traclok
X5-3.27 traclok
Z5-3.27 open
The "Cop chip" thing always cracks me up.
Other than that, I am done internet arguing.
True that there is no "cop chip" in the police Interceptor but there are more differences then just gearing . Other differences other then gearing are: 70mm throttle body (the civilian model is 65mm), police model has an aluminum drive shaft (civilian is steal), the intake is out of the marauder (the civilians is not), the rear end axle is a 32 spline (civilian is 27 spline), the police has larger sway bars and heavy duty shocks, the brakes are also different on the police model, most police models have the red police dome light, police models have a power steering/oil/and transmission coolers to name some things. So there are quite a bit of differences between the two. Giving the police model about 250hp where as the civilian gets 200 to 215 hp
Smh....my 08 cvpi does 140 easy. Jesus...
What's done to it?😂😂😂
Bryant Silance I had a friend who’s was stock and hit 133 on the highway
They are balanced out perfectly, great cars cop cars now used as taxis I see them with 400k sometimes older versions R.I.P crown vic.
a taxi company in NY has gotten 2 vic engines to over 1 MILLION miles, crown vics are def forever cars.
I saw an amazing Vic at a car show once. Had a V10 from a F250 and it had a rousch supercharger. No idea how much power it made but it looked amazing.
Terminator motor is the supercharged 4.6, the Marauder is similar to the NA Cobra motor.
Steve Ross it's the same engine as the Mach 1
Joe Gac well, the mach 1 engines are a bit different between manual and auto Mach's. So even that isn't quite the case.
Oh thank God 16 years after the car came out you finally figured it out well better late than never
Crown Vic. Is a safe car in a accidents
David Martinez is that why they quit making it?
They stopped making it because it no longer met California emission standards. And Ford considered it too costly to upgrade both the plants and the car itself to meet current standards. They closed the plant and put 2,000 people out of work in Ontario
+David Martinez NO it is not, certainly your comment does little to prove the matter. Your silly declaration is NOT evidence. Just Get OUT!
@@leefinnigan1279 so you're saying it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that it was only being sold as a fleet vehicle and they didn't want to take up Factory space for only fleet vehicles when they could be selling a civilian and special service package model of the same vehicle i e the Taurus the Explorer? It couldn't have anything to do with those? Yeah you're right it had more to do with California than the bottom line on the profit margins
@@NeverTalkToCops1 and what if he believes that what if he truly believes that
I got to 136 mph in an interstate chase pursuits mid 1990"s
According to speedometer and radar high speed lock....dual confirmation....
The Ford dealership said the chip
Was not LIMITED where as civilian car are per federal law....he showed me the law. I read the law.
So I fully believe it depends on the year...and specific research...and real world experience.....
I had a private CV Ford.
It would do on interstate maybe 115 mph vs my cruiser of 137
Thanks
Daymond Chief Jones
I thought i had already commented on this video. My 96 cv would get up to 140 easy. Probabley faster but yes very scary. Its the drive line and rearend gears and no govener that allows the car to go fast. And a good set of tires. Plus no cops and a long stretch of good straight road. Love your videos and all the lights on your cv.
If the transmission was replaced does it still have the cop final gear?
final drive ratio is determined by the rear-end gearing , trans. is same.
Vic is built like an f150.
If my memory is correct isn't there also a difference between a p71 intake and a standard CV intake?
only on the later models. Early models shared the airbox with the lx/grand marquis but later models received the airbox from the marauder.
Yes the heads are were the diff is
Jake Browne
There is zero difference between the civilian and police interceptor version in the motor. None. Same heads, manifolds, cams,etc. Exact same motor.
The only difference regarding the motor are the Airbox ( later models ) and the resonator delete on the dual exhaust.
Incorrect in early models pi intake will not bolt onto civilian heads and vice versa its not a airbox diff its a diff engine in later model like 01 and up all the vics got pi motors
Jake Browne that's what I thought too. I have a 99 and it took 2ce to make sure I got the right one when I had to replace it.
Well personally with how much of a boat the Crown Vic is, I'm impressed that it'll even do 129 MPH
I bought a 1974 ford LTD with a 400 Cid in it in 1986. It had high miles on it 34,000 and I paid $375.
It was a yard boat. I needed a family car at the time so wanted $375.00. You couldn't hear the engine or feel it when it was running. It was a red two landau, with a black vinyl top. I call myself a customizer. I put a black 6 inche strip at the bottom doors and finders and crager SS with wide tires. It looked good. People liked it. People liked it so much it was stolen.
I end up buying a AMC Matador after that.
"All the way up to Canada"
We've always had Crown Vics, we made them
My 08 was around 150ish on I-10. Stock except a Jmod trans
With rocket assist???😂😂😂
With rocket assist???😂😂😂
The first question I got when I bought mine was "Does it have the cop chip in it?"....lol thanks for the video...and when I said there is no such thing as a cop chip they looked at me like I was stupid
Bull, I had several crown vice as a police officer. They all did 140 mph. They do have a different computer. The civilian model shuts down at 105 mph. The police chip does not make the car faster in acceleration, but it does allow the car to go faster than 105. Last but not least, contrary to what was said, the police package engines were 3 valve engines.
Dont forget the dual exhaust lol
Some of our local P71s have had the exhaust manifolds changed out to headers to improve exhaust flow at high rpm.
A Touring Package had some Po-Po stuff, and for a while there was also a Towing Package that was similar without the cool wheels
the police one comes with aluminum driveshaft
BLooD 4 GeeK Its not Aluminum. Its Carbon fiber
nah its aluminum i
BLooD 4 GeeK I only Installed the damn things. If its got an aluminum Drive shaft someone took the original one off. TAhey come with Carbon fiber Drive shafts due to the high torque. ONLY civilian models come with aluminum
dude crown vics never come with Carbon fiber Drive shafts
google it
BLooD 4 GeeK I know whats on google. Thats for the older vics and those were replaced because Aluminum is no good for that I know what I worked on and I get my Vics from police auctions. If YOU had googled it you would know that the chassis and engine and rear end ONLY are factory. and the rest is built by 3rd party companies. Which I worked for
I've been in a highway patrol crown vic, we went 140 mph going to a call. I couldn't see the speedometer as I was sitting in the passenger seat, but I could see it on the radar mounted on the dash. I don't know the exact year the car was, it was in the early 2000's. But I do know for sure we hit 140 cause I was talking to the cop that it was the fastest I had ever been in a car at that point.
Don’t even care, I love my crown vic! And I love all your videos!
BTW the Cobra engine is actually a Lincoln mk VIII engine!
1996-2002 cobras has the mark viii engine..03-04 (terminator) cobras has cast iron block and different cams pistons rods and crank
E Riv and the Blowah
+Steve Ross yes of course the blower is one huge difference lol..I apologize for leaving it out but I left it out because I was showing that the engines themselves are completely different
My original point was that it was a lincoln motor first before Ford ever used it!
+Sam Holdsworth yes that is true..Lincolns are usually a few years ahead of Fords lol
My first car was my parents old beige 03 p71. It was a hunk of junk and had over 220k on the dash. Replaced coils, plugs, fuel filter and air filter. Idk which rear end it had but I did 135 on the way to work more than once. I know my 03 had the aluminum driveshaft which eventually broke and threw my trans out with it but I heard the aluminum driveshafts allowed the crownvics that had them to go faster due to less weight and less power loss
Used to own a 04 p71 crown Vic (black) def a fun car to have . the steer ratio on the p71 is a lot better than the regular crown Vics , also comes with a better transmission cooler and oil cooler as well
there is what you could call a "cop chip" on the p71 and p7b, because they are tuned to create more power at a loss to fuel economy compared to a the civilian vics
Desmond Rouse if I'm not mistaken, there was a 5 or 10 hp difference, but thank you for mentioning that
Paul Tharp the civilian Vics had an output of 223hp compared to the cvpi's 250hp which is a difference of 27hp
Desmond Rouse yup! That's what I was thinking of! They also had the aggressive shift tuning
Its not a chip. Its an improved PCM program lol
Both of mine will go 140 idk what your talking about maybe yours would only do 129
have you ACTUALLY gone 140?....ive been in 2011 vics they ALL top out at 129...the speedometer says 140 but it really only goes 129
Mr Random Reviews I’ve done 133 against a Silverado...
Yeah in both no programmer or anything
My 07 Vic interceptor runs 135 only mods cold air and glasspacks
Mines bone stock...
*_Hell's Angel's built Harley, Cops built Vic._*
I know this video is a year or so old but have a question about the suspension of the Panther plat forum what is the difference between a Taxi,Police Intercepter and civilian crown vic are the suspension parts interchangeable?The reason I ask is because I went to order ball joints upper and lower but the said that it would work for my 2010 cv but without Taxi/Police intercepter suspension?
Mine did 140+. Positraction, 3.27 gears. Goodyear Eagle Sports. Big Flexfuel injectors, Bosch plugs. No lie.
I believe you what year
Big lie
Positraction is GM, but alright :/
My 08 hit 150ish. Stock except a Jmod trans.
I hit 190 in mines on GTA
A lot of misinformation here mate
As a man who lives in saudi arabia before it was disscontinued in 2011 people bought the crown vic more than the police which makes really cheap in the second hand market so it was really hard to tell the diffrent between a normal crown vic and a a police crown vic
I got mine 3 years ago this month and did run into 2 guys soon after I bought it who believed that "cop chip" rumor and that the police Crown Victoria is some kind of super car as a result.
As for the different rear axle ratio, I drove my Vic for a year before the whole rear axle was replaced with a unit from a Grand Marquis....you DEFINITELY feel the difference in acceleration.
I have only had mine up to about 90 mph once, as I can't really say that I care for how quickly the fuel tank will empty when running at high speeds, and while it was still reasonably stable at that speed I wouldn't want to try exceeding the 100 mph mark.
BTW, now that the rear axle has been replaced the speedometer and odometer are off, especially above 50 mph. I would have to believe there is a fairly easy fix? As it is now, if I want to travel at 60mph I keep it just under an indicated 50 mph.
The easy fix for your problem is to REPLACE THE SPEEDOMETER GEAR in the tranny. Different rear-end gear ratios require different speedometer gears.
Your Ford dealer's Parts Man can match them up for your gear ratio.
Where could I buy that Light thing in the front?
Cesar Bermudez if you live in Illinois, any colored flashing lights visible from the front of the vehicle are illegal except for an emergency vehicle.
Glenn Lego Thank you Sir, I live down south in Florida. Either way I wouldn't put my self or my car at risk. At least until I become an officer in the federal level.
just use orange as the flash color,perfectly legal
gino manshit thank you, I'm reaching my goal soon anyways.
Infinity G35 does 155 and that is 2WD, the 4WD is faster. So cops can't catch up in those days. Kids respect the law, speeding is bad.
marlon nunez 4wd couses more drag so no.
marlon nunez
Just because someone can top out a car doesn't mean they know how to control it at those speeds. People don't know how to drive these days
Right. How many chases have we seen where the cops, in their SLOW CVs catch the bad guys. Happened all the time. Just because a moron has a fast car doesn't mean he knows how to drive it.
Infiniti g35 is also often driven by rich kids who have no idea what they're doing.
marlon nunez nothing is going to out run that Motorola and you are out gunned and out numbered so in the end even if your car can outrun a Crown Vic you still can't get away from them...
I've had an 84, 92, 95, 98, 05, 09 and an 11. The 92 was the quickest. I've never heard any of these myths.
My son's VC keep blowing out the spark plugs on the heads can you switch out the heads from a mustang 4.6 to a crown Vic 4.6 or is there any difference
Sorry your car and service car was governed or something. My 1999 ran 140 with 3 bad coil packs ez. Might have hone faster but i didnt wanna ticket lol
Ken Rivers. You didn't want a ticket so you "only'' went 140 mph? Genius.
Josh Heaps well I was on a stretch of hwy the cops can't hide to a point. Then I slowed down. So yes genius....
1999 victoria has tunned with no speed limiter, more agressive timming curve, and more flow fuel inyectors, dual exaust, pi heads and intake
Ken Rivers it will go faster, the 98 and 99 actually will hit 160. I found out after racing an super charged gtp and probably could have stayed in it with the 3.55 gears. But if you want to get more out of yours. Put a cold air intake with 3.73 and tune it to run 93 or e85. 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, unfortunately mines wasn't turned and the bottom end for some reason went out. You barely floor it and it gets off the line almost like a charger scat pack
Omg that "cop chip"!
The biggest difference in the electronics that can enhance performance is how the transmission is programmed.
Marauder doesn't have the terminator engine that is in the 03-04 cobra.
P71s have dual exhaust and a less restrictive intake snorkel. The rear gearing has nothing to do with top speed, it’s for faster acceleration. The front brake rotors are bigger and the ecu’s limiter allows a bit higher top speed depending on the two options for rear gearing. Also I think the front sway bar is bigger.
Dinosaurs aren't extinct...Love my Vic, it feels like i'm riding on a cloud. I call her The Mother Ship.
I was lucky enough to find a 2011 grand marquis with 71,000 miles on it; still have it. Have added a performance chip, will be upgrading the intake and plan on dual exhaust soon. What a hoot to drive; a luxury sort-of hot rod.
Thanks, I just had a seizure.
I knew the Vick's up to 2000 yr. The entire suspension is different than civilian. The gearing was 3.55:1. Up to the 2000 model year, the ECM was speed limited to 130, to prevent the trans from blowing out fluid in prolonged pursuit. The body mounts are heavy duty, frame has extra bracings, higher capacity cooling for all fluids, fade resistant brake material and so on for reliability.
For the most part you were dead on. There is a turbo V6 AWD, but it was never in a Vicky.
I had a crown vic. Everyone thought I was a cop (my military haircut didn't help either) so everyone drove slow around me. Still it was fun having a V8 at 18 years old. I thought I was a bad ass! They are pretty reliable though, if gas was cheap I would own another one
Had my 2003 p71 to 130 mph and was still pulling strong. And was smooth as could be not “ falling apart “ ….
Thanks, excellent video. I was around when the CV with the panther body was introduced to law enforcement. Your statement about how frightening it was at anything over 110 mph is spot on. My Marauder is a beast compared to the standard patrol car. Still great to get a retired police CV if you can for the differences you mentioned.
Ebay is place to look for low mileage P71's that were used by Homeland Security or other dept were they were not beaten up
P71 has slightly longer trans, slightly smaller converter, and way stiffer crossmember! Coil spring rate is higher than civilian as well. Heavy duty oil coolers... speed governor can be tuned off with SCT...
The Crown Victoria of 2012 to 1992 does not have a Cobra Engine.
However, they do have overall the same GT Mustang Engine of V8 4.6.
Major difference is its Single Overhead Cam.
It’s not a cop chip, but a Police Interceptor tune. The Civilian version has a lower speed governor. The Police Interceptor is either 140 or no governor and The trans shifts firmer along with the aluminum driveshaft.
The Marauder doesn’t come with the Terminator motor. It does have the 96-02 Cobra motor, but the 03-04 Terminators had a different block and internals from all other 4.6 DOHC motors.
Counterintuitively, the Police rear gear on these is 3.55:1 and the civilian is 3.27:1. Yet this gives a higher top end because the civilian cars run out of poop before they run out of R’s. On the older 5.0 square ones, through 87 they had 2.73 gears and would about break 110 or so. In 88 they switched to 3.08, and Cop versions had the 3.27. The square ones never had the 5.0 H.O. (But some Town Cars did if you feel talented with changing ECM pins and injector wiring around) and the Police had the same 160 horsepower, small (86 Mustang?) plenum 302. A 351 with VVT and EEC-III setup was optionally available on Police cars I know in 88 and I think until the new body came out but was only rated at 180 horsepower.
Square body’s had multiple other mods for Police work, from brakes to a fully open grille.
I'm glad you made this video, now I can show it to my friend. Johnny Walker Bukaki once told me his Crown Victoria did 160 mph at top speed..
JoeyMontana151 a 1998 to 2002 p71 can hit go over 140mph, that's because I didn't have the governor Limited but the 2003to 2011 can only 133mph at top speed due to the government limited
must have been going down a 10 % grade with a tailwind .. LOL hope the tires were speed rated to that number
After spending $900 on an oil change and four new tires they suck the antifreeze out of the engine and used high pressure to install the new antifreeze for my Ford van and it blew the head gasket I was looking at the Crown Victoria but there's so many problems with the car the spark plugs can pop out the intake manifold is cracked and leaking the exhaust manifold has problems where it leaks some of the bolts get cracked and I don't think it's as Dependable as they say it is and the cars have gone up in last year to this year 9.2% you can't even find one with less than $140,000 miles I did find one with 58,000 and it was a police Crown Vic but it was in Louisiana so far every car has a problem I looked at the Mustang the V6 2011 hesitation harmonic balancing problems air conditioning problems I don't know what to get at this point but I have to get something so I can go to the VA and check on my cancer that's back and I need something that I can afford and that's reliable and I don't know what else to get at this point even the Chevy pickup trucks have problems too they all have problems I don't have money to go into buying something paying for on a monthly basis and winding up with a migraine headache so I don't know what I'm going to do
Actually.... My 2003 P71 has the aluminum matrix drive shaft rated to 150 mph. I believe it was after 2004 that Ford did away with or perhaps cost reduced the shaft to a "lesser" one with a rated top speed of about 130 mph and at the same time programmed the computer to top out at 129 to avoid disastrous malfunctions....
Sooo, depending on the condition of the engine and drive-train (decline and tail wind) certain circa 2003 P71's could at least theoretically do 140+ miles per hour. On the up side the later P71"s got an extra 15 to 20 hp to make up for the lost top end speed with better acceleration. I'm thinking that most cops who didn't want their names on plaques on the "Our Fallen Hero"s" wall never noticed the loss of top end speed.
As an additional footnote, there is some speculation that the reason the circa 2003 P71's exploded when they were hit in the rear was that they had been lightened to achieve the mythical 150 mph top end... like the old early 1970's Plymouth police package Fury I 's that could do 160 MPH, but folded up like an accordion in a 5 MPH crash. And yes, my 2003 still has the yellow hazard light bar installed and working inside the rear window... to deter people from slamming into it when stopped at the side of the road.
As a note of caution.... the non-limited, used municipal police cars may have the equivalent of 480000 miles on their motors... (average 4 years of service for 4000 hours per year [2 shifts] times 30 mph, in as much as they are never turned off) To that, add whatever miles it was driven in the 10+ years since it left service . Now keep in mind when your motor blows at 140+ mph you lose power brakes and steering and your stopping distance with limited steering is measured in miles rather than feet while your motor burns.... and either you or me ever finding out whether a 2003 P71 can really do 150 isn't something either of us should be dying to do.
So, no, I can't confirm or deny how fast the unregulated P71's can really go neither should anyone else who has one.
I thought it was a real shame that production of this car ended
I'm getting a 2011 P7B next week so I gess the rear side doors won't roll up and down .
Different heads for the CVPI. 131mph is top speed. Plenty of high speed chases in mine... 147mph for the SCT package. And yes it feels like it's about to fall apart at that speed.
What's the SCT package?
@@krownvikkhris3004 it was a tune upgrade for them. Software and hardware.
He's lying his ass off my crown Vic does 145 m.p.h. 😒😒🙄🙄😴😴
No "cop chip" -- but the police package Crown Vic did not have the 108-mph governor on it that your grandma's car had. The aluminum drive shaft & rear axle ratio are different on the cop cars too.
I used to be a deputy sheriff many years ago and the 140-mph top speed is a very optimistic myth. People make that claim because of the speedometer goes up to 140. With a standard light rack and a trunk full of gear, you will be hard-pressed to get much beyond 120 mph on level ground.......and the wind noise is terrible.
FWIW, the 1994 to 1996 9C1 Caprice was a lot faster. GM screwed up by stopping production of those cars.
My civilian 1997 Crown Vic will do 141 miles an hour I got a speeding ticket and lost my license but that’s when it was new now has 250,000 miles on it never had no mechanical issues with the it All that was ever done to it was a Flowmaster exhaust system
Fact is that the P71 4.6 liter (two valve) is DIFFERENT! And NO, they were no slouch! To name a few would include, #1: Dual exhaust, #2: Certified speedometer, #3: Transmission cooler, #4: Crankcase oil cooler, #5: Electrical grounding package, #6: High output alternator, #7: V Speed rated tires, #8: Special heavy stamped rims, #9: Heavy duty suspension. The “FACT” is they did have a speed limiter programming to the pcm that restricted top end to 129 mph, while the civilian was notably less due to tire speed rating. I was issued numerous “ NEW” P71 4.6 FORDS while a State Trooper and know what I’m talking about, and NO, the vehicles were not reprogrammed when taken out of service and auctioned off. NOTICE the 9C1 CHEVROLET CAPRICE LT1 was the best, while being an insanely fast, FULL size and great handling squad!!!!
Chris Craft most cops preferred the Crown Vic and totally disagree with you about the Chevy POS.
Is the Grand Marquis the same gear ratio as the civilian crown vic and reach 120
So the PI model does have a high speed rated aluminum driveshaft, and the governed speed is indeed absolutely higher. Of course the suspension is very firm.
I owned a 96 vic, its chip was not limited, I got it up to 162, down hill, it did feel like it was lifting off the road. I got pulled over 35 miles later and the cop did not believe the speed on his gun, I do. Digital dash showed 162 when I felt afraid of flipping.
By the way I have worked for 2 national auto parts stores and there are HUGE differences in the P70, P71, P72, P73, and P74. link here "www.idmsvcs.com/liquid/p7x.html"
Now My vic was a special order by a retired reserve officer, all P70 heavy duty and a lot of police P71 options, and while I owned it I blew the intake manifold (plastic POS) and replaced it with a Cobra intake. The car was a dream to drive, and several friends that drove Mustangs were skeptical of my mom n pop car until I stretched its legs on the freeway and they could not keep up.
Get a wrecked continental or navigator, and swap in the 4 valve. My LX civilian crown vic has carpets, better seats. 30 mpg, chrome (FBI style) wheel covers, no cobbled on oil coolers to leak, no holes drilled into the body anywhere, and is one inch lower (doesn't have to jump curbs), also it was never an abused fleet car; i bought mine from a 74 year old man, original owner, with a stack of reciepts for every oil change and every repair the car ever had. He also garaged it, and told me with a toothless smile that he had her up to 80mph on the thruway once.
I get that you have the hotrod version, but it's just barely improved. Not enough for me to give up that list of advantages listed above. Maybe if it had the 4 valve, or maybe a standard shift I'd be agreeing with you.
The marauder comes with the 4v but not the terminator engine. The auto trans mach 1 and marauder had a 4v with iron crankshaft while supercharged cobra (terminator) had forged internals.
As a cop who had several and owns one now. You can get one with a 355 rear end with positraction or a 323 rear. 323 will do 130 and 355 120 but get there way faster. Running code id always leave the ones behind that had 323. Suspensions better cooling systems are better
I don't even have a crown vic and I watch all your videos on them. Very enjoyable 👌