FDNY Battles Blazing 4-Alarm Fire, Dogs Rescued / East 173 St Claremont, Bronx 12.18.17
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- 12.18.17 / by Adam / CLAREMONT, Bronx - 4-Alarm Fire East 173 St
The biggest fire I have ever filmed from the roof of an adjacent building. As featured on the New York Post, ABC7, NY1, PIX11, & ABC World News.
NYPD dog rescue: 15:36
TV broadcasts: 19:22
Fire extinguished: 13:12
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Hats off to all firefighters. I could not be anywhere near those flames. The fire fighters in the building with the flaming roof was unnerving. They were really cool and professional.
This was my home. I grew up in this building since the 90's. A stove on the 5th floor was busted and the pipes burst, causing flooding to the whole building and destroying everything. This is 1686 Clay Ave.
For all the people saying negative things about the FDNY, I can't tell the following from just watching this so I will not slam them as many of you are. 1. are they inside trying to get people out. 2. are they inside trying to do an interior attack. 3. Do they have a water supply issue. Those are some good reasons why you don't want to just dump water on the top floors. I think these guys have done this before and you key board fire Chiefs should think before we take shoots at these guys.
Clyde being a retired firefighter officer (cap), there is a fine line between being aggressive and being foolish. The negative element is that you live without complication majority of the time -- but it will catch up with firefighters one day either in the form of dramatic injury or compromised health problems.
Clyde Dooseldorph Agree, much respect to fireman, who runs into a burning building on the regular ?
The NYC cop lady carried that puppy around is my hero
Adam, Excellent video and reporting on your part. One of you very best efforts to date. The past few weeks of 2017 turned out to be very tragic for both first responders and residents of the Bronx. First, we have this terrible 4th alarm fire you covered which left multiple families homeless and injured several fire fighters. Overnight during the early morning hours of December 27th there was an all hands occupied building fire in the Bronx where additional engine and ladder companies were special called which was followed by a third alarm occupied apartment building fire several miles away and finally a 4th alarm occupied apartment building fire which all resulted in leaving many families left homeless.
That same morning there was also a subway train collision involving a light train with no passengers in the river tube between Manhattan and Queens which resulted in several injuries. Finally we have the horrific 5th alarm apartment building fire in the Belmont section on the evening of December 28th where twelve people perished and many others were left fighting for their lives in hospitals. In addition the same fire also left over twenty families homeless. So much fire activity during the final weeks of 2017 in the Bronx reminds me of the late 1960's and 1970s which was the busiest era in FDNY history. The only difference is that all these tragic fires in the Bronx during the final weeks of 2017 all occurred in occupied buildings.
Not impressed at all with 3-4 interior firefighters dilly-dallying around with fire intensifying above and all around and have to stop and remove helmets to put hoods mask and regulator in service. No water keeping the fire in check from towers? Don't try to tell me they were hose streams operating inside. I did briefly see a couple squirts upward through the burned through open rough but should have removed them from the interior and hit the large body of fire with ladder pipes and tower to knock it down. Tactics on this fire seemed slightly off or odd?
Nice job ADAM! Seems yo be a stubborn fire that didn't die down so fast... Great reporting and coverage too around the scene!
All what the firefighters on the ladders are doing: They are watching the flames.
No water over the ladders to the roof - nothing! - Is this a "special NYFD tactic", that I simply just do not understand...?
Did they waiting for the moment when the fire will jump over to the left building, because one burning building is not enough for them and isn´t worth to react...?
And what these guys are doing in the apartment immediate under the burning roof - do they waiting that the roof breaking down over them...?
Questions over questions...
And the most important question remains: *Why the hell they do not clear the roof fire b e f o r e the flames are so high...???*
Seeing so many fires like this in the past few years (and these buildings used to be very good at containing fire, even when on the top floor), there must be some "good on paper" legal procedure that's been added. Doesn't have to be the most efficient; just keeps you "covered" on the legal reports; that you "followed the rules". Working for another "safety sensitive" city agency, that's what everything is all about now. Before Governor's Island was cleared for the park, they were using the buildings for training to reevaluate the best tactics, yet these things seemed to have gotten worse after that. From what I gather from people who answer commenters, it seems they're worried about steam and other danger water might pose for the inside crews. So now, it looks like they've determined it is "safer" to let the outside (including the roof and cockloft, as highly flammable as they are) burn. (And just ventilate, which adds more air to that part of the fire). I would think maybe they should get the inside crews out sooner then, but then one could argue they might be doing search and rescue.
400 men? 3 towers and not able to put that fire out...wow great job; not. Not cooling the roof while firefighters are inside, strange tactic. Taking off the helmet while roof burns above you and no BA (not even mask on and ready to use)...just crazy and stupid.
So why don't you join the fire department and show them how to do it since you're an expert?
@@joed9491 i am not saying that i am an expert only fire fighter for over 25 years but what kind of experinces is that ;-) ooh and yeah fire fighter in europe, those do not know at all what they do i know i know. I really would like to question them on their tactics and how the position their trucks and whatnot. The points i raised ar just standards not even going into details and how should i as i was not on scene ....but if you read the other comments (experts or not) you can see pretty clear it is not only me thinking that way
Until I watched this video, I always thought FDNY had their shit together! During an entire career in law enforcement, and as a trained fire investigator and volunteer fireman, I have never seen, nor heard of anything like I saw in this video! The fire went to four alarms because the FDNY ALLOWED it to go to four alarms! I never thought I'd see firemen, at the ready in their towers, just sit and watch the fire progress without doing any suppression at all. I've never heard of firemen doing overhaul in a ceiling with active fire directly over their heads! The Boy Scouts could have done a better job of suppressing this fire. But, then, THEY have adult leadership!
The building had a double ceiling hence the fire spreading and being very difficult to access and control...I agree I couldnt believe the crews inside had No BA or Hoods on whilst ripping the ceiling down and fire roaring above there heads..pure stupidity and the snorkel operator sucking in all those toxins and No BA too...
8:20 inside! Pretty brave!
Strange allowing the fire to gain control. Even a heavy fog on the roof fire would have done a lot to suppress it without danger to internal fire fighting efforts. Bad managment. Someone needs retraining.
9:35 he’s not struggling he’s going on air. That’s how they do it in New York. In with the helmet on and then you go on air once the conditions get bad enough. They completed their search on the fire floor and went on air to leave the way they came.
Hi JB91710, I think your wrong, my reason for this is this, I believe the building was a residential block. Yes the fire has caused a lot of damage but if the crews tried to fight the fire internally with hand lines, far less water damage is being caused, yes the crews are taking punishment but I don't know any Ff who didn't enjoyed being in the thick of it knocking down a fire. The moment you use ariel ladders that are pumping out 12-15 bar pressure, all that water is going to flood all the apartments below that were not effected by the fire and you probably ending up pumping out the basement. From my experience not everyone has insurance. As for the Ff having to put his face mask on, that could have gone 'tits up' as we say in the UK, trying to put a face mask on wearing gloves isn't easy at the best of times.
@@JB91710 Well I was a UK fire officer in Greater Manchester and whilst fire attack methods may vary somewhat, what we do not and should not do slag off fellow firefighters as individuals. It is decisive, unethical and downright rude yet JB does not have a problem with his vile attitude. Ignore him from now on, he's a brain damaged troll who thrives on attention.
God forbid they throw WATER on it.
Good job to the officer saving the pits.
As far as the FD goes... Totally disgraceful.
1st. I understood S&R teams had a job to do. The steam and smoke created would cause blinding conditions trying to do your jobs.
However, seriously with no water on the blaze til 13 minutes video time?
Where were the people hitting the rooftops?. Why was no one of the "400" firefighters doing anything to extinguish the fire.
Once water WAS put on the building it was out in no time... So it appears.
Instead the flaming debris was allowed to fall from the building allowing potential for spread into lower levels, injury to those on the ground, and potentially creating more damages that could have complicated the problem.
Oh, right.... Nothing happened from that debris.... and there were emergency crews on the ground to deal with the aftermath.The team inside.... Given the circumstances, you did what was needed, but removing your helmets to put on the masks?.... Then you guys wonder why you get hurt in these fires. You KNOW going in the air is toxic (plastics, foams, paints, etc..) going in. You should know that with fire in the ceiling; on the roof that your in immediate danger. Helmets are on your head for a reason. But hey, I guess nothing happened so those few seconds made it ok to endanger yourselves and your fellow firemen.
Hats off to you.
You put the fire out quickly when you finally did put water on everything.
Steve R It looks like fire fighters were inside. I did some water spray earlier in the video.
Gee imagine if they went exterior right away instead of having those guys in there. Unless there was a life hazard there’s no reason to have guys that close to a roof that looks like it’s going to collapse. Let alone they didn’t even have their SCBA on. Unreal.
And it’s another fire right now. Just 3 days after Christmas man!! 12 people died smfh
Yes I heard. Couldn't document the fire since I'm on vacation. Thoughts and prayers for the victims.
My deepest condolences to the families, may your loved ones
Rest in Peace.😢😢
and to the FDNY, my respect for life!
No one died, except for a poor kitty that jumped😢😢
is there a go fund me for the victims?
Angel_Dolly lmaooooooo...... called section 8
I’ve been watching these types of vids from the NYFD for a coupe fo weeks now. My respect for these people has grown exponentially! What a tough job they have when they’re in the thick of it. Maybe an expert on this stuff can answer this for me. Why do they wait so long to put water on some of these fires? It just seems like in those buckets just watching the fire burn? I’m going to take a wild guess and say it’s because there are firefighters in there and they don’t want the water blasts to hit them or blow holes in the roof or walls which could expose them to fire. Is that right? Anyway, great job FDNY and all firefighters throughout the world. God speed!
The two tower trucks in the front of the building - are they there for shoe? Isn't the reason for their being there to fight the fire and eventually put the fire out. I don't understand the procedures of this fire department especially the so acclaimed NYFD. What they are doing here is laughable and juvenile and appears to be the first time they have ever tried putting out s fire. Let the damn building burn down seems to be the operating procedure - what a shame and a waste of taxpayer dollars - simple incredible .
nice video. But what I miss though is WATER being sprayed on the actual fire....
where ist the water? i dont see any hoses or apparatus to extinguish the fire, sorry I am a layperson, what do they do on all these ladders?
go to 13:12
There were firefighters inside the building you don't put water on a building from the outside when there are firefighters inside
Dos escaleras mecánicas para solo mirar. Que pasa con el agua??
Why are there 2 firefighters not putting water on the fire? Are they just enjoying the view?
Laura Ramsey they don’t start spraying until they know everyone is out including FF’s
Because they have interior search and rescue firefighting operations going and didn't want to push fire heat and smoke down on everyone inside.
I'm actually appalled at some of the comments you people are making here these guys and women made the ultimate sacrifice back in 2001 and still do every time they do their job. FDNY is the top fire dept in the world and some of you knuckleheads have the audacity to pick apart their techniques. In case some of you missed it, the only reason that they probably didn't put water on the fire is because there were guys inside, and if you hadn't noticed the blasting power of the smooth bore nozzle, it would have brought parts of the building down on those guys inside, so they waited to make sure the building was cleared out before starting to spray water. Think about it it makes sense, clear the building and do a search of any residence that could have been trapped first then put the replaceable structure out!!! Know your facts before you shoot off at the mouth folks. As a former chief I would have done the same.
What's with the water those two trucks are just letting the fire burn two buildings
??? I’ve watched so many of New York’s finest and this is the first time I’ve ever been confused.
I’m a little confused. They had 2 tower ladders up with in minutes, from the looks of it the fire was all on the roof. I get they may have to go in for a quick search but why did it take so long get get water on it? I’m sure they have their reasons. It’s the NYFD some of the bravest men on this planet.
Thank you, God bless you all and I hope the dogs have a happy ending XXXXX
Why wanst the guy in the bucket putting some water on it?
Because it's so powerful that it would bring the roof in on everyone 9inside
Did you film the one today?
the 7 alarm yes, but we are not going public with it yet until after the news stations has decided if they want to purchase our footage.
Hope they got the cat that jumped in the window seal? Maybe that is what the firefighters on the top floor was trying to catch when they were taking helmet and masks off and on?
400 REALLY? I don't fucking believe that! Pull the other one!
What are these firefighters even doing in this structure especially on this floor??? We wonder why so many firefighters in FDNY lose their lives!
Did they rescue the cat from the window?
Why the ladder truck not attacking the fire
Fireman are blue collar badasses . Most train very hard and pros at there job. Very hazardous job 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Didn't the fireman see the cat in the window? He was right there, very sad at 13 o7 you can see omg. The fireman seen him, it's no doubt he didn't like cats, or was not going to make that rescue with a hose in his hand..fkn a
Are the hydrants frozen? Where’s the water?
Still working on catching the critical moments on camera facial collapse, first water going on, flying cat.
New camera ?
The way this was handled was dumb stupid and VERY dangerous
Was hoping somebody got some footage! Great job by the FDNY and great footage!
Hoping? You must not have watched the news! lol
Lol no I didn't I'm down in Florida. But again man great footage! Glad nobody was seriously injured! I'm a firefighter in the SW Florida area.
Jakey my mom retired in south Florida what station are you out of??
what happen to the kitty
Wow! After BSing around and waiting for about an hour, they finally realized that the fire needed water for it to go out and that it wasn't going to go out on its own. How nice of them. I thought they were letting it burn just for the hell of it so it could light up the night sky. Or maybe they would wait until it went to a 45th alarm 60 hours later before they decided to put the damn thing out. Go figure!
They weren't bullshitting around nimrod! They had to make sure everyone was out of the building first! Unless you're into seeing people getting steamed to death! Use your fucking brain🙄🙄
did fdny rescue the cat at 13:10 in the window you were focus on?
Sorry to say the cat jumped right before the firefighter was about to grab her. The crowd below screamed when the cat jumped. Very sad. I think I was switching to my DSLR camera hoping to catch the rescue but by the time I hit record it was over.
So the cat didn't survive the jump? I thought their ability to jump from great heights was part of the reason for the whole "nine lives" thing.
LOUDLABS NEWS NYC 😢😢
WHY AREN'T THEY SPARYING WATER ON THE FIRE???
I was wondering the same thing i know firefighters were on the floor below the fire but surely they could of sprayed some water on it while the firefighters inside were doing there thing but hey i'm no expert.
Difficult access the units had a false ceiling or 2 ceilings with a void space hence the fire spreading rapidly between units....like a game of chance trying to catch up with it and the roof was tar so it just kept burning...they couldnt put alot of water on it from outside as they would steam and burn the crew underneath...which should have been wearing BA and hoods bet there were a few burns..just stupid and the snorkel guy eating all that toxic smoke when he could have had BA on
Ok seriously if you aren’t a firefighter and/or a fire expert, don’t even type a comment! The water coming out of most of the hoses are under enormous amounts of pressure, enough to break down walls. So I’ll leave it up to you, I’m in the bucket with a fire hose, and you are on the top floor just under the roof and fire, would you want me spraying that roof with you in there?! That’s right. Didn’t think so.
I hate it when people make comments about things they have no clue about.
@@OSUfan757 Oh you mean like you right. apart from using basic knowledge of it such as Fire hoses are under high amounts of pressure.
So so sit there and tell me that we don't know what we are talking about when you don't either apart from having basic knowledge like the rest of us.
the fireman on the right and left they are very bad persons , those just looks FOR 12min and does nothing , they also has a water hose on his bowl , great job NOT " DISGUSTING PEOPLE THEY MOST BE FIRED , 12:56 what is he doing, there is not the fire that you are spraying on
why no water on the cockloft? that is nuts soory!
Why bother with dogs when there is a cat to be saved?!! Gotta admit they were pretty cute puppies though, but cats should be the primary objective. btw, were there any fatalities in this fire?
Fuck cats
14:46 At last!
Where is the water ?
B.j Mcwhattabloke watch the whole video
Maybe be a controlled urban renewal burn?
In German ... Warum löschen die nicht gleich mit 2 Drehleitern...Laufen da die Feuerwehrleute ohne Atemmasken direkt unter dem Feuer rum anstat sie mit den Drehleitern löschen . Erst mal Richtig Wasser drauf und dann Männer hochschicken für die Glutnester . Komische Vorgehensweise
How come no water
wow they are good at what they do
Jets over the top as always. We were always taught to aim at the BASE of the fire.
When you can't reach the base of the fire safely where else can you aim? Looking at that fire the base was not safe to get to, even the top wasn't a safe place with stuff falling. Come on logic.
the boys showed up en masse----nothing wrong with being too careful
Great coverage....
13:58 Much better!
Latter trucks are used so they can watch the fire better.
job well done and as they said that they had their lives
Brave Men.
10 layers of tar and gasoline
how not to fight a fire - all this equipment and it is being used by beginners - the number one rule in fighting a fire is put water or foam on it to smoother the air which will smother the fire - this film should be used as a training tool in how not to fight a fire - so sad to see the poor use of good fire fighting equipment and I assume good men who are trying to put out a fire with little or no training. What a shame - this is what has become of the famous 9/11 fire fighters the NYCFD.
This is the FDNY I think. But to bring 7/11 into it is bizarre.
Was that a cat 🐈 in the window
Sorry to say the cat jumped right before the firefighter was about to grab her. The crowd below screamed when the cat jumped. Very sad. I think I was switching to my DSLR camera hoping to catch the rescue but by the time I hit record it was over.
Awwww. R.I.P., Kitty.
poor baby :(
No one smelled smoke🤔
Should have pulled the men out and used the 2 tower ladders they had up .
I have been round a few big fires and funny how its takes thats sumtime for the people to come togather and get along crazy to me but its true
Yes i believe that when there's a fire you're around somewhere! :-)
THEY ARE JUST LETTING IT BURN WHY THE HELL OUR THEY NOT SPRAYING WATER ON IT?
You don’t get it .... you have to search for people/bodies first.... and the FDNY in particular likes to make interior attacks (from the inside out).... and if that ladder opens up it will seriously hurt anyone hit by the water inside
They are, DA!
@@tjlovesrachel I know nothing about fighting fires so this was a question that I'd wondered also. Thank you for the answer.
Clearly you have no knowledge of how fire fighting works.
It can be hard to see it because it blends in with the smoke and because it happens fast, but in the first few minutes you can see a few sprays of water coming out of the roof. This is from firefighters fighting the fire from the inside of the building.
I know they weren't just "letting it burn", but I do wonder why they didn't put out the fire on the outside of the building at the same time as they fought the fire from the inside.
I'm not a firefighter so I don't know if that's a good thing, a bad thing, or a neutral thing, but I'm interested to know the reasoning behind it.
VERY STRANGE MÉTHODE OF FIRE FIGHT BECAUSE NOT WATER BY THE ROOF !!!
ALL THE HOUSE IS BURNING !!!
hoping someone saved the cat :( Nvm read the other comments........sad
That aerial ladder is getting cooked, it is of no value, has no pipe on it.
It was the emergency escape for the firefighters working inside the building.
Zehn Feuerwehrautos und kein Wasser. Das ist zum lachen.
POI DIVENTATE £.
Great video.
Nice video clear as day!
I surmise that the delay in getting a hose on this merry little blaze, was to do a reccy around the building or fiddle fart around doing the J S A ?
RIAPRE SING SING PER ICAPI DEI POMPIERI AMERICANI,
They are trying to stop a tar roof from burning! If they were to hit that with water it would be like hot grease and water!!! Notice it dripping while still on fire! I guess lol just maybe I am right! , lol At least I gave all of you naysayers something to think about instead of trashing these guys who actually are doing the job! I would like to see ANY of you get in under that fire and not lose your nerve!
400 firemen,,,,hahaha for this fire
Wow
POI DIVENTATE 3???????
so weard how it started on the roof maybe a firework landed up there
INCENDIO CHE SI POTEVA SPEGNERE IN POCHI MINUTI.
When will the macho FDNY firefighters start entering IDLH atmospheres masked up and properly prepared to do their jobs? Many of the occupational cancers and injuries can be avoided if firefighters took better care of themselves at fires.
Probably will never happen. As is the case with much of the NYC population, they have a over-inflated opinion of themselves and tend to believe that they're better than the rules and procedures everyone else abides by. The only two areas that NYC is actually the best in the world: OVERCROWDING & OVERPRICING.
Your comments are cancer
They're literally just sitting there watching the fire...incompetence at its finest...New York's finest.
12:58 jet uselessly in the air
IDEA!!!!! someone design a DRONE that the FIRE DEPT can fly!
This DRONE has a "GUN" that can be LOADED/RELOADED with "SMALL SHAPED CHARGE BULLETS"
This DRONE could then be flown into position where it could "remotely controlled SHOOT AT" and "blow inward" the screens and windows that can't be broken by water pressure alone.
As an example ... in this fire there aren't enough towers available in the right position due to the spread of the fire! As you can see, a water gun is
trying to break out windows that are high up, but the angle of attack is too great, consequently the water pressure doesn't break them!
Consequently they have to wait for fire to reach the windows from the inside and "burn them out"
It's sadly just a waste of valuable time, water, and property! I'm sure it's frustrating for the firemen as well.
I'm too damn old to design it or i would ! ! ! !