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Combining Forms and Techniques

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2019
  • People love combining things, especially in the Dragon Ball fandom. Sometimes, we get to see brand new forms or techniques that are the result of combining two separate forms or techniques, making something unique and powerful as a result. Let's discuss these forms and some potential ones that people speculate will happen in the future!
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  • @IceyBro136
    @IceyBro136 4 года назад +1001

    Gt fans: SSJ4 is stronger
    Super Fans: SSJB is stronger
    Super Dragonball Heroes: Legendary super saiyan 4 Perfect Blue Rosé Evolution Ultimate Super Kaioken X20 Ultra Instinct

    • @supereststinger
      @supereststinger 4 года назад +110

      thats literally fan forms in a nutshell
      btw i think ssj4 is equivalent to ssjg im no gt fan but im just saying

    • @ZMB_21
      @ZMB_21 4 года назад +28

      @@supereststinger yes

    • @e2waveyy
      @e2waveyy 4 года назад +50

      @@supereststinger Agreed, there's no way Super Saiyan 4 is equal to Blue

    • @4Star18
      @4Star18 4 года назад +13

      @@supereststinger it isnt even close. Honestly.

    • @supereststinger
      @supereststinger 4 года назад +10

      Lord 4 Star u realize I said I THINK right? No one knows for sure

  • @KingLeek86
    @KingLeek86 4 года назад +514

    SSB + UI = Instant red stain upon activation.
    "Where'd Goku go!?"
    "No clue! There was a flash and now there's just this red puddle-oh..."

    • @thesupremetheswaglord3606
      @thesupremetheswaglord3606 4 года назад +22

      -oh oh no

    • @internal1825
      @internal1825 4 года назад +39

      Goku: Comes in mmm ketchup

    • @Endlessninja-ug5zy
      @Endlessninja-ug5zy 4 года назад +16

      Guess it’s that time of the month

    • @Daniel_3322
      @Daniel_3322 4 года назад +15

      So if you stack the kaioken on top of it does it just erase you from existence or will it just blow up the planet or universe 😂

    • @simonkrayt1970
      @simonkrayt1970 4 года назад +6

      @@Daniel_3322 Senzu bean + UI + slowly powering up god ki

  • @Endlessninja-ug5zy
    @Endlessninja-ug5zy 4 года назад +142

    Fusion: *happens*
    The internet: SUPER SAIYAN GOD SUPER SAIYAN 4 EVOLUTION KAIOKEN X 20 TO THE POWER OF 47 MASTERED ULTRA INSTINCT CONFIRMED

    • @Saiyan_Swagger
      @Saiyan_Swagger 3 года назад +2

      did you mean,Red Stain on the ground?

    • @castorjrtroy8272
      @castorjrtroy8272 3 года назад +1

      Fresh! The radical swagilous Brah! Ketchup? or...
      Blood...

  • @jet6660
    @jet6660 4 года назад +45

    i feel like SSGSS should have been orange, idk why the decided to make a yellow hair form with a red hair form and make it blue

    • @playedagus
      @playedagus 3 года назад +2

      Because it would look like the ssj3 from the beerus saga / buu saga (They later just made it yellow)

    • @playedagus
      @playedagus 3 года назад +4

      Oh and it would be weird since Goku's outfit is already mostly orange

    • @4kash-112
      @4kash-112 3 года назад +1

      Those 3 are the primary colors so that could be a reason, idk but maybe in the future they will make a super saiyan rainbow transformation or smth.

    • @joshuaosei5628
      @joshuaosei5628 3 года назад +3

      @@4kash-112 SSG. Super Saiyan Gay.

    • @Jyguns
      @Jyguns 3 года назад

      They would have to make ssjb again because red + yellow = blue.

  • @kanyeenthusiast4128
    @kanyeenthusiast4128 4 года назад +246

    Oh yeah *they’re* all coming together now

    • @RageTGoA
      @RageTGoA 4 года назад +5

      Imagine Kronk meme and read this

    • @andrechabot2733
      @andrechabot2733 4 года назад +6

      power:STONKS

    • @FPSDrifter
      @FPSDrifter 4 года назад +1

      I too wait for the battle between CELLDORADO KAIOKEN X99 SUPER SAYIAN 10 "oozaru" and MUI SHAGGY.

    • @FPSDrifter
      @FPSDrifter 4 года назад

      @Bill Cipher fam, check out gohan blanco wiki. YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH.

  • @nowelltheowl5619
    @nowelltheowl5619 4 года назад +138

    Special beam cannon + masenko = special beam masenko
    Light grenade + burning attack = burning light grenade

    • @aperon7517
      @aperon7517 4 года назад

      Wow

    • @bootybandit9245
      @bootybandit9245 4 года назад +5

      Burning grenade sounds better

    • @aperon7517
      @aperon7517 4 года назад +5

      Or burning light

    • @blue1764
      @blue1764 4 года назад +6

      Nail gun

    • @nowelltheowl5619
      @nowelltheowl5619 4 года назад +2

      I like burning light, but I feel burning grenade kinda underwelms the attack, which could be a good thing.

  • @dr.badtimes3660
    @dr.badtimes3660 4 года назад +67

    I'd like to see SSJ4 combined with SSG or SSB.
    I feel as if the combination of multiple forms would be interesting to see, and follow in Hyourinjutsu's footsteps in terms of explaining SSJ4 Gogeta's crimson locks.

    • @draconiumnova5110
      @draconiumnova5110 4 года назад +6

      Oh you saw that video too? It's a good one. Also certain that the form would end up with red hair, because god's red color would become the new base color to revert to when stacking Super Saiyan 4 on top of that.

    • @pulmentifactorem634
      @pulmentifactorem634 4 года назад +4

      It’s just SSJ4 but with blue fur and hair

    • @draconiumnova5110
      @draconiumnova5110 4 года назад +1

      @@pulmentifactorem634 except that in super saiyan 4, the hair color reverts to the person's original hair color. with god being the new base, it would be red.

    • @zuxta
      @zuxta Год назад

      This bozo
      So dumb he doesent know what j stands for in ssj

    • @ethanulloa6359
      @ethanulloa6359 Год назад

      Jesus Christ Loves You

  • @thetrue7sparks
    @thetrue7sparks 4 года назад +35

    I just figured SSB Evolution was just a variant of SSJ grade 2 or 3. Probably 2 because grade 3 sucks in terms of mobility.

    • @Animefan_7153-0
      @Animefan_7153-0 4 года назад +9

      I agree with you ,once I saw SSB evolution ,I thought that since to get regular SSB you have to combine god with super saiyan ,I thought to myself "I'm pretty sure that vegeta combined god with ssj2

    • @thetrue7sparks
      @thetrue7sparks 4 года назад

      @@Animefan_7153-0 Yeah it could be that, I like that too. I just figured Grade 2 because he gets bulkier.

    • @Animefan_7153-0
      @Animefan_7153-0 4 года назад +3

      @@thetrue7sparks and now ,the question remains ,if goku got mystic instead/gohan got god ki too ,would they be able to combine mystic with god ki since it's different from super saiyan transformations?

    • @quandarioustoddricioushorn9292
      @quandarioustoddricioushorn9292 3 года назад +2

      @@thetrue7sparks still. It wouldint make sense for the manga. Cuz in there goku technically got mastered blue (by keeping his ki not leak out). However it could be possible that in the anime it is ssj grade 2.

    • @TheGrimReaper19
      @TheGrimReaper19 3 года назад

      BRO ITS TRU BECAUSE BLUE IS THE SUPER SAIYAN OF SUPER SAIYAN GOD! SO NOW THERE IS SUPER SAIYAN BLUE GRAD 2 AND 3.... AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF SSJB2 AND SSJB3.... MY MIND IS BLOWN

  • @sean.a.s7234
    @sean.a.s7234 4 года назад +675

    Probably Kaioken and ultimate, since ultimate hasn't really been shown to have any real flaws besides the inability to go ssj.

    • @96montecarlo1
      @96montecarlo1 4 года назад +88

      Would be the perfect form for the Humans, give Tien, Krillin, Yamaha (Get him to start Training again) and perhaps Roshi the Mystic form and Kaioken, have each go through Elder Kai’s Ritual and then have them Train with Goku and Goku teaches them Kaioken, kind of surprised Tien and Yamaha didn’t learn it from King Kai back then, Ultimate Kaioken for the Humans, give them something to compete with the Saiyans and their SSJ forms

    • @kuma-ziontheperson5864
      @kuma-ziontheperson5864 4 года назад +52

      Apparently, he can use Super Saiyan while using Potential Unleashed, but he doesn’t do so for personal reasons.

    • @stramyneZZ
      @stramyneZZ 4 года назад +51

      With the Ultimate form, you can go super saiyan but there's no point. All of his power is released. No need for a ssj multiplier.

    • @mohalafrappe5046
      @mohalafrappe5046 4 года назад +2

      stramyneZZ what?

    • @stramyneZZ
      @stramyneZZ 4 года назад +36

      @@mohalafrappe5046 There is no need to use ssj when you have the Ultimate form. Its releases all of your power

  • @bluetenit695
    @bluetenit695 4 года назад +278

    Imagine this:
    *Mastered Ultra Instinct, Ultimate/Mystic, Full Power/Legendary, Super Sayian God Super Sayian 4, Kaioken x20.
    *
    Now THAT would be broken.

    • @thekidxicor1273
      @thekidxicor1273 4 года назад +21

      Bluetenit that wood like kill the person instantaneously 😂 but it sounds like a fire idea

    • @lordofskag5056
      @lordofskag5056 4 года назад +8

      Back round: Kaioken x100

    • @bluetenit695
      @bluetenit695 4 года назад +29

      Oh, wait, I forgot to throw in SSB Evolution AND Complete SSB from Manga.
      So the actual thing, along with Kaioken x100 would be...
      Mastered Ultra Instinct, Ultimate/Mystic, Full Power/Legendary, Complete Super Sayian God Super Sayian Evolution 4, Kaioken x100.
      *DEAR GOD.*

    • @thekidxicor1273
      @thekidxicor1273 4 года назад +2

      That sounds incredible😂

    • @thekidxicor1273
      @thekidxicor1273 4 года назад +3

      And deadly to the user😂

  • @supersalty5288
    @supersalty5288 Год назад +19

    What's funny is that the combination of ui and blue is a real thing in the manga now lol

    • @Cody-ps3wy
      @Cody-ps3wy Год назад

      Well to be fair that was a power amp version of ui and not goku fully utilising ultra instinct in ssb as he doesn’t have the grey eyes and his mannerisms are too different

    • @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman
      @Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Cody-ps3wy yup

  • @kontonce89
    @kontonce89 4 года назад +21

    Broly also stacked his super Saiyan on top of the wrath form essentially a Canon uncontrolled ssj4 in a sense
    Or better a failed ssj4

    • @omnisystem6030
      @omnisystem6030 3 года назад +1

      @Saiyajin Pride he did merge Ikari and Super Saiyan because Broly still had the big Wrathful Muscles while in super saiyan

    • @omnisystem6030
      @omnisystem6030 3 года назад

      @Saiyajin Pride ye that was never stated in the anime but why could Broly stomp 2 SSBs

    • @genocidalsmoothie1554
      @genocidalsmoothie1554 3 года назад

      @The Virgin Chad You're probably thinking of Z Broly there, he has that form

  • @reptilian_geneticist
    @reptilian_geneticist 4 года назад +141

    Imagine if Gohan learned the kaioken and combined it with his ultimate form... Ultimate Kaioken ×20

    • @hypernel1798
      @hypernel1798 4 года назад +5

      Too danm OP

    • @FPSDrifter
      @FPSDrifter 4 года назад +11

      Gohan Blanco is born.

    • @takisvidalis4883
      @takisvidalis4883 4 года назад +1

      @@FPSDrifter That's not Gohan's blanco form and its a LOT weaker than blanco, SSB is stronger alone than Mystic Kaioken x20

    • @ddbs9415
      @ddbs9415 4 года назад

      @@takisvidalis4883 actually no. Blue is equal to mystic alone. Mystic kaioken x20 would stomp

    • @Dwood777
      @Dwood777 4 года назад +2

      @@takisvidalis4883 Mystic can actually be ones strongest transformation depending on their limits. For example
      If gohan had ssb and ultimate, ultimate would be stronger still because of how the form works.
      It makes someone hit their limits, the become stronger then that

  • @IBeforeAExceptAfterK
    @IBeforeAExceptAfterK 4 года назад +61

    My favorite forms are the ones where non-Saiyans get to contribute.

    • @DoubleBoost23
      @DoubleBoost23 4 года назад +7

      Giant and Super Namekian

    • @memlord2094
      @memlord2094 4 года назад +3

      Super Sonic Duo buff roshi

    • @leisurelyindex
      @leisurelyindex 4 года назад +4

      @@memlord2094
      Check out Sophie's Krillin What If. You might find an interesting combination, using that form.

    • @thesupremetheswaglord3606
      @thesupremetheswaglord3606 4 года назад +2

      Ultra instinct

    • @FPSDrifter
      @FPSDrifter 4 года назад +1

      El Grande Padre wins.

  • @lucksummed
    @lucksummed 4 года назад +42

    Honestly, I just want to see more SSJ4. I know people really like Super Sayian Blue but I just think that form is awful. In execution and design, it’s just a very powerful Super Sayian. SSJ4 was something different and refreshing, and it has its own uniqueness to it. It doesn’t even have glowing yellow hair. Bring back SSJ4

  • @mr.knightthedetective7435
    @mr.knightthedetective7435 Год назад +14

    SSG and SSB have already been combined with Ultra Instinct in manga and the combo isn't busted, it's just more efficient. I would like to see Goku go Kaioken in base and power it up with God Ki alone, also Ultra Instinct Kaioken combination would be dope to see

  • @sauce1820
    @sauce1820 4 года назад +66

    Me: *see’s thumbnail* oh this is gonna be good
    Edit: the forms you said in the vid that I like the most are the only ones that could actually have a chance happen. Ultimate combined with ssj (because I’m pretty sure it is stated in z that he could’ve done it)
    And ssj2 combined with god to make ssb2

    • @drakedrago2339
      @drakedrago2339 4 года назад +4

      That was dub only thing. The original source material makes it so that Ultimate form is a type of transformation that gives the user all of their potential Power right from the get go and gets perpetually stronger.

    • @gethype1908
      @gethype1908 4 года назад

      Sauceboi 1820 ultra instinct ssj blue 3

    • @sauce1820
      @sauce1820 4 года назад +1

      The Anti Christ that’s not enough, how about a mouthful:
      Mastered ultra instinct ultimate mastered super saiyan god super saiyan blue evolution three kaioken times 20

    • @sauce1820
      @sauce1820 4 года назад

      Drake Drago thank you

    • @gethype1908
      @gethype1908 4 года назад

      Sauceboi 1820 mastered ultra instinct ultimate Ssj blue 4 kioken x100

  • @Ptscf2
    @Ptscf2 4 года назад +55

    I would like a combination of Spirit Bomb and Spirit Ball. You know how much more helpful the spirit bomb would be if you could just move it around on your own will?

    • @weathermangohanssj4
      @weathermangohanssj4 3 года назад +5

      0 because it already can.

    • @exaltedfalcheon1793
      @exaltedfalcheon1793 2 года назад +2

      Remote Spirt Bomb

    • @TheUncivilizedNation
      @TheUncivilizedNation Год назад +2

      Only reason they don’t is because the Spirit Bomb requires a ridiculous amount of Ki Control to even hold it. Only a fusion like Vegito has the Ki Control for that

  • @sonofthevoid2982
    @sonofthevoid2982 3 года назад +10

    And I would like to see kaioken stacked on the normal red haired super saiyan god form, that would be such a cool form.

  • @user-fp4gm7vc6c
    @user-fp4gm7vc6c 4 года назад +103

    Me: you do realize that when you say SSJ you are refering to the japanese dub, since it comes from Super SaiyaJin
    Everyone: f*cking weeb

  • @Slevana5
    @Slevana5 4 года назад +124

    I'd love to see Ikari and Kaioken combined because it'd be interesting to see two multipliers stacked. And the wrathful form and red aura is so fitting with the color considering red is a strong aggressive color. Like in Magic the Gathering it's the color of chaos. Tho since Ikari is more primal like green it'd be a Gruul Red/Green combination.

    • @uandresbrito5685
      @uandresbrito5685 4 года назад +8

      I don't think Ikari influences the color of the Ki, since it's reminiscent of the Oozaru form. It's green because Broly's Ki is green. But yeah, Broly's Green Ki with Kaioken aura around it plus the reddish tint on his body would be dope. I'm merely confused about if the red aura would substitute the Ikari aura(much like the Kaioken does with the base form's aura) or if it would create a double aura like BlueKK or 4KK

    • @tobi-xo3if
      @tobi-xo3if 3 года назад +1

      @@uandresbrito5685 Considering no Saiyans natural ki aura has been anything but white/blue and their ki blasts yellow/blue, I do think Wrath State makes ki green

    • @uandresbrito5685
      @uandresbrito5685 3 года назад +1

      @@tobi-xo3if Well, Broly is a mutant and his Ki is consistently green in all of his forms, so idk, it may just be Broly and that's it.

    • @tobi-xo3if
      @tobi-xo3if 3 года назад +1

      @@uandresbrito5685 We've never seen his baseform ki tho, so we can't judge that one. Also, all of his forms were influenced by Wrath State so they'd be green (e.g Super Saiyan)

    • @uandresbrito5685
      @uandresbrito5685 3 года назад

      @@tobi-xo3if Didn't he use any ki before going Ikari? You sure?
      And it's just assumptions. We don't really know if his transformations are actually different because of Ikari or not.

  • @taxabledice9360
    @taxabledice9360 4 года назад +35

    If they ever introduce the ssj4 in super through broly i kinda like the names primal super saiyan or oozaru super saiyan

  • @Jaxs3242
    @Jaxs3242 4 года назад +15

    So... ultimate legendary ssj4 MUI black gogeta could be a thing?

  • @austinsmith4235
    @austinsmith4235 Год назад +2

    Honestly would like to see ultimate stacked with ultra instinct. Mainly because they're similar-ish in aura color when used, and neither are exclusive to Sayians. Imagine having all of your potential unlocked, and auto dodging everything thats thrown at you. Ultimate Instinct!

  • @noobboss0
    @noobboss0 4 года назад +20

    Mystic/ultimate + kaioken + super saiyan god two are forms created by the kais and one is a god form so why not and one step further would be ui as well

    • @diobrando7774
      @diobrando7774 4 года назад

      How is SSG created by kais? It's jus a saiyan form.

    • @noobboss0
      @noobboss0 4 года назад +3

      @@diobrando7774 i said TWO forms kaioken and ultimate and said one is a god form bro read the comment properly

  • @Delta2357
    @Delta2357 4 года назад +25

    So, sayans have 3 power sources: ssj, oozaru and god ki. Combining the 3 would be fun

    • @theholychonk8324
      @theholychonk8324 4 года назад +7

      Ssj + Ozaru= ssj4
      Ssj4+ god ki would be cool. Maybe ssjg4

    • @lightinstinct707
      @lightinstinct707 4 года назад +2

      Zaydyn Wornham Give Broly ssj4, make him fuse with Goku if Vegeta somehow died against an upcoming villain. Ssj4 Blue

    • @draconiumnova5110
      @draconiumnova5110 4 года назад +1

      @@theholychonk8324 now important question for a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4 transformation: what color hair would that be? I am pretty sure it would be red, but i wanted to see what others thought.

    • @brandonsmith2172
      @brandonsmith2172 4 года назад

      Draconiumpower It depends. If we’re talking about stacking god on top of 4, it’d be red hair. If we’re talking about going super Saiyan 4 as a super Saiyan god, it’d be blue hair and blue fur. Ssb is going ssj as a ssg. So going ssj4 as a ssg would make the fur blue.

    • @dripkuz
      @dripkuz 4 года назад

      @@draconiumnova5110 it'll either have regular red fur with red hair (like ssj4 Gogeta) or it will have blue fur with blue hair.

  • @norvilleshaggyrogers8825
    @norvilleshaggyrogers8825 4 года назад +8

    "Originating from Kale's Super Saiyan"

  • @theermac6024
    @theermac6024 4 года назад +8

    I could see a pseudo-SSB4 if a SS4 and a SSB fused, making a SS4 but with blue fur and hair, much like how Kefla was with caulifla and kale fused. Not necessarily it, but just because how the forms interacted to create the fusion.

  • @darthrevan2455
    @darthrevan2455 4 года назад +8

    Imagine this:
    God ki, SSJ Rosé, LSSJ4, Ultimate/Mystic form, 100% Full Power form, Kaioken x20 (or higher), Wrathful Form, Mastered UI (MUI), GoD form (if only possible.....)
    How’s THAT for a mouthful?

  • @thejoshuadsmith
    @thejoshuadsmith 4 года назад +9

    2:36 goku has 6 fingers on his right hand

    • @SlewedBoot25934
      @SlewedBoot25934 4 года назад

      God Ki
      It changes a nigga

    • @tonkhk
      @tonkhk 4 года назад

      Bruh

    • @donte7584
      @donte7584 4 года назад

      LoisCharles stop 😬🤦‍♂️

    • @donte7584
      @donte7584 4 года назад

      I didn’t see it

  • @Sydpart2
    @Sydpart2 4 года назад

    that intro is pretty sick. Fun video, wish you posted some art of what people have envisioned these combined forms to look like, obviously I can look it up on my own and stuff but idk, just loses something when it's not presented at the same time.

  • @Supersonic415
    @Supersonic415 Год назад +1

    I'm so glad that new transformation Gohan came up with was completely original and different from standard super saiyan forms. If you saw super hero. Then this was worth it. At least something Gohan said in super came true after a while.

  • @jameswalker8362
    @jameswalker8362 4 года назад +13

    Ultra Instinct is more of an ability, rather than a form.

    • @darrenmkwananzi5271
      @darrenmkwananzi5271 4 года назад +1

      Technique*

    • @maxargentum5001
      @maxargentum5001 4 года назад +3

      I always thought it was a state of mind

    • @Metro....
      @Metro.... 4 года назад

      Is it a multiplier like super saiyan

    • @princeazaiah8679
      @princeazaiah8679 4 года назад +1

      @@maxargentum5001 It is

    • @jameswalker8362
      @jameswalker8362 4 года назад +1

      @@Metro...., sort of. Certain attributes do get an increase, but it can't be considered a multiplier.

  • @astolfo2305
    @astolfo2305 4 года назад +5

    SSJ 4 and MUI = SSJ 5

  • @supersaiyaneevee1573
    @supersaiyaneevee1573 Год назад +2

    Looking forward to Vegito/Gogeta coming back now that Goku has Ultra Instinct and Vegita has Ultra Ego. I can even imagine what that would be when they combine because of how different they are.

  • @MagusAgrippa8
    @MagusAgrippa8 3 года назад +1

    I like to think that Super Saiyan 4 is essentially a combination of a mastery of the Great Ape, Super Saiyan, and the Great Ape in Super Saiyan. In a sense, it requires control of the Super Saiyan form, a mastery of the Great Ape form (Ikari, perhaps?) and then mastering those two techniques used at the same time. In other words, this form is only possible if the Saiyan has a tail, as without it they'd only have something like Ikari Super Saiyan.

  • @thetrue7sparks
    @thetrue7sparks 4 года назад +12

    Wat, I though potential unleashed WAS him tapping into his saiyan forms + his potential for and with those forms and using it in base without all the strain.
    So combining it with a SSJ form seems kinda... pointless and weak.

    • @liltj3820
      @liltj3820 4 года назад +1

      Dylan Massey No it was JS his potential but he can still growing become more powerful. Plus the Kai’s didn’t kno that the Sayians can mix from or techniques together so there is a chance he can combine ultimate with other forms

  • @just905lc3
    @just905lc3 4 года назад +3

    Gohan’s final form: Ultimate + God Ki + Maximum power(roshi’s buff form) + power pole and nimbus + Kaioken + Spirit Bomb absorption

  • @Sk27_
    @Sk27_ 3 года назад +3

    I have this theory, so if an average Super Saiyan gets angry, they turn into SSJ Rage (as seen with Trunks and Vegeta) but if a “Legendary” Super Saiyan gets angry, they turn into The berserker state (as seen with Broly and Kale). Also, I think a legendary saiyan could be a very rare mutation in Saiyans that only happens once every 1000 years.

  • @robxholicfoxyfan8552
    @robxholicfoxyfan8552 3 года назад +2

    Finding a way to combine Giant Piccolo's power with Kami's mystic ability would be cool to see. Like aside from power, Kami seemed to only make piccolo wiser and calmer. But who knows what Kami could have? Maybe condensing Piccolo's giant form into even more power or something with minimal size gain so that the power means something and doesn't break even? I wonder if I am explaining myself right...

  • @supermiriotard2071
    @supermiriotard2071 4 года назад +13

    How about Ultra instinct with kaioken stacked on top of it
    This could happen if goku fully masters ui

    • @bootybandit9245
      @bootybandit9245 4 года назад +3

      LegendKing 1029 Thai would destroy gokus body

    • @jetwingstudios
      @jetwingstudios 4 года назад

      @@bootybandit9245 erase is a better turn

    • @mujamad3430
      @mujamad3430 4 года назад

      If he wants to die

    • @Not_Claptrap
      @Not_Claptrap 4 года назад

      I don't think it will happen, because for angels its a technique, but for mortals its a form, but its like ssg, it can't have something else power it up

    • @froku1969
      @froku1969 4 года назад +2

      He might be able to force some zenkai’s out from that.

  • @LightnCreamy
    @LightnCreamy 4 года назад +4

    personally, i'd like to see kaioken merged with inner potential/ potential unleashed, it could be kinda neat.

  • @kingnexus9642
    @kingnexus9642 3 года назад +2

    6:39 that is a theory but there is also the idea that Super Saiyan Blue and Super Saiyan Rosé are just two sides of the same coin with Blue using Positive energy while Rosé uses negative energy

    • @Leostar-Regalius
      @Leostar-Regalius 3 года назад

      rose if masacoX's color theory is true, rose is higher up then blue, and white(fused zamasu) is higher

    • @kingnexus9642
      @kingnexus9642 3 года назад

      @@Leostar-Regalius but how does that explain Vegito Blue making Merged Zamasu to corrupt himself just to get the edge

  • @JoeFanik
    @JoeFanik 3 года назад +1

    Everyone calls Vegeta's new form an evolved state, but it's literally ssjb grade 2 just like 'Super Vegeta'. This does prove that it's possible to ascend to godly ssj2, 3, and 4

  • @wasthatjake
    @wasthatjake 4 года назад +8

    Hey super salad the reason why gohan doesn’t go super Saiyan with his potential unleased is because it would not give him a boost and it would drain ki according to the elder Kai

    • @nicholashernandez4611
      @nicholashernandez4611 3 года назад +1

      So the elder Kai was determining Gohan’s potential? I thought it was just breaking the floodgates open, but that makes sense too.

    • @wasthatjake
      @wasthatjake 3 года назад +1

      @@nicholashernandez4611 The Elder Kai did do that to. I forgot in where he said that specifically but he did help with opening Gohan's potential

    • @nicholashernandez4611
      @nicholashernandez4611 3 года назад +1

      @@wasthatjake
      That is my contention though, is the releasing of potential just an increase or is it guided? How does the release in potential work? How could the elder Namekian release the potential of Gohan, only for the elder Kai to do the same later on? That is my issue, that it seems weird how unleashing potential works in Dragonball.
      It’s almost like a form of lazy writing to make a character relevant to the story with very little effort...

    • @wasthatjake
      @wasthatjake 3 года назад +1

      @@nicholashernandez4611 I'm not too sure on that because I don't believe they go to much depth on what happens specifically

    • @nicholashernandez4611
      @nicholashernandez4611 3 года назад +1

      @@wasthatjake
      Super same. It’s not Star Trek, most of the rules are fast and loose. Still, it’s pretty funny when you think about it - Gohan had his potential unlocked twice. Maybe the first one didn’t stick? Maybe his remission into a studious life kinda blocked his potential again? Did the elder Namekian only partially unleash his potential, and the elder Kai was just better at it?
      You’re right, it seemed to be a quick and unspecified power boost on purpose. Like I said, it feels like lazy writing to keep the backup characters relevant a little longer. It’s literally a magic boost!

  • @draconiumnova5110
    @draconiumnova5110 4 года назад +4

    So, my immediate thought goes to the Super Saiyan God being stacked with Super Saiyan 4. Sounds like would be an awesome form, but there is one thing that is not thought about too much: Would SSGSS4 have Red or Blue hair? Despite many believing that it would be blue because Super Saiyan "Blue", my personal guess is red hair for two reasons:
    1. Super Saiyan Blue is Super Saiyan stacked on the god form, so "Blue" is not its own separate thing.
    2. Normally when going Super Saiyan 4, the hair reverts back to it's original color. If God was stacked on top of this, it would make sense that red becomes the original color of the new form.

    • @rickydiscord7671
      @rickydiscord7671 2 года назад

      well when ssj4 gogeta showed up. it fits to close to home of what a saiyan god looks like. the people that made SUPER knew about ssj4 gogeta and try to hide it by saying they didn't know about him when they made saiyan god a thing. I don't care how much they are trying to cover up when it comes to GT. but it always seem like SSJ4 can activate god ki on it's own. hell even HEROES are trying to avoid the whole red hair and god like aura thing from SSJ4 in fusion form.

    • @TheOtherWhiteNerd
      @TheOtherWhiteNerd 2 года назад

      I like the idea that SS4 Limitbreaker is effectively this.

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 6 месяцев назад +1

    Now we have Super Sayian, Legendary Super Saiyan, and in-between, Rare-Epic Super Saiyan

  • @Human69402
    @Human69402 Год назад +2

    Beast gohan marvels me a ton. I feel like it's potential unleashed and super saiyan 2. That is what I think.

  • @kingslayerazrael9086
    @kingslayerazrael9086 4 года назад +6

    Honestly, I really dislike how they call it Super Saiyan God. There's no SSJ in there at all. Wouldn't it be more accurate to call it "Godly Saiyan" or something? Then SSB could be the actual Super Saiyan God or Godly Super Saiyan

    • @jphoenix9670
      @jphoenix9670 3 года назад

      Isn't SSJ literally just what super saiyan is in Japanese?

    • @kingslayerazrael9086
      @kingslayerazrael9086 3 года назад

      @@jphoenix9670 yeah, just didn't feel like typing out "super saiyan" multiple times.

    • @jphoenix9670
      @jphoenix9670 3 года назад

      @@kingslayerazrael9086 oh yeah I feel that

  • @liltj3820
    @liltj3820 4 года назад +3

    I’m pretty sure super Sayian blue evolution is basically like super sayian grade 2 cause the way they look is similar and the way they increased each other’s power are kind of similar.
    Remember THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT

    • @nehaalkhalid3436
      @nehaalkhalid3436 4 года назад

      Not really grade2 slows you down

    • @nehaalkhalid3436
      @nehaalkhalid3436 4 года назад

      Ss2 is twice as strong as ss

    • @nehaalkhalid3436
      @nehaalkhalid3436 4 года назад

      Blue evelution is like 30 to 50 times stronger even stronger than blue kkx20

    • @liltj3820
      @liltj3820 4 года назад +1

      Nehaal Khalid No cause if that were tru Vegeta would have done much better in there fight against Jiren and his power lvl would have been ne’er UI Omen which it isn’t

    • @liltj3820
      @liltj3820 4 года назад +1

      Nehaal Khalid Well grade 3 showed people getting slowed down but Vegeta didn’t slow down a lot if he did at all

  • @kitkatgaming572
    @kitkatgaming572 3 года назад +2

    If only we'd known he'd combine UI with EVERYTHING.

  • @eggrm
    @eggrm 2 года назад

    “Ultra Instinct combined with some type of Super Saiyan Form” he didn’t know the gold he had stumbled onto back then.

  • @DThunder65
    @DThunder65 4 года назад +2

    5:16 Vegito + Gogeta = Gogetio

  • @DarkReputation
    @DarkReputation 4 года назад +4

    What if gohan had God ki? Can you imagine an ultimate God gohan?

  • @evansandoval3986
    @evansandoval3986 4 года назад +1

    Well honestly, ui and blue COULD make sense, because ui is actually a technique, and blue is a form. But whi knows

  • @alchemistcorp2245
    @alchemistcorp2245 4 года назад +22

    I believe giving gohan the ssj forms with mystic would be amazing and give us the gohan we used to have. A badass fighter

    • @reaperaf9511
      @reaperaf9511 4 года назад +3

      If he were to combine mystic with God ki, and if he were to learn kaoken... Oooooh boy he'd be a powerhouse!!!

    • @alchemistcorp2245
      @alchemistcorp2245 4 года назад

      @@reaperaf9511 probably on par with mui goku

    • @prabalkamra7763
      @prabalkamra7763 4 года назад +1

      @@alchemistcorp2245 nah

    • @alchemistcorp2245
      @alchemistcorp2245 4 года назад

      @@prabalkamra7763 thanks for your opinion. (No hate) Which one do you prefer then?

    • @Tharja-iBW
      @Tharja-iBW 4 года назад +1

      Pairing Ultimate with anything would be redundant because the ultimate form brings out all of your power, you'd be wasting unnecessary energy if you combined the ultimate form with anything.

  • @asylumknight2920
    @asylumknight2920 4 года назад +9

    Ssj4 and mystic form would be dope also it would allow Gohan to grow as both as a human and sayjin hybrid

    • @mateushenriquepinheiro3197
      @mateushenriquepinheiro3197 2 года назад

      Not really,Gohan can't use ssj4 if he is using mystic and also he wouldn't do that in any universe aside from heroes/fan what ifs

  • @bestedits6953
    @bestedits6953 3 года назад +2

    If I had to pick 2 transformations to Combine I will pick Ultimate and super Saiyan God for Gohan

  • @soccerboy6083
    @soccerboy6083 4 года назад +1

    Happy new year it is been another decade for dragon ball

  • @hypertension747
    @hypertension747 4 года назад +3

    I'm thanking about maybe a mystic +ikari/cause ikari makes ur power grow and mystic helps you grow ur power and gives you a power boost but also gives alot more percs

  • @Aesirfollower2020
    @Aesirfollower2020 4 года назад +9

    Before anyone says SSJ4 is just as strong as the golden ozaru or it's only 10x ssj3 it's not ssj4 is far stronger than golden ozaru and is waay above ssj3

    • @theformssj5234
      @theformssj5234 4 года назад

      We dont know that yet let the people of gt to decide the matter

    • @Aesirfollower2020
      @Aesirfollower2020 4 года назад

      @@theformssj5234 Your joking right ?

    • @theformssj5234
      @theformssj5234 4 года назад

      @@Aesirfollower2020 no inly the people of gt can decide that

    • @Aesirfollower2020
      @Aesirfollower2020 4 года назад

      @@theformssj5234 The people of GT desided ssj4 is stronger than golden ozaru and ssj3 it's pretty obvious if you watched the show.

    • @theformssj5234
      @theformssj5234 4 года назад +1

      @@Aesirfollower2020 i ment the devolpers who made it

  • @MisterSouji
    @MisterSouji 4 года назад +1

    I actually made a custom figure by combining parts from the model kits. A super saiyen 3 x super saiyen blue × super saiyen 4 form. I call it God Killer Goku.
    Also, you mention fusions making unique forms. What of Mystic Gohan fused with Super Saiyen Rage F.Trunks?

  • @FPSDrifter
    @FPSDrifter 4 года назад +2

    Imagine fusion of Gohan Blaco and El Grande Padre ;)

  • @chickenpotpieare3things
    @chickenpotpieare3things 4 года назад +3

    Super Saiyan god should have just been "The god form" and Blue should have been "Super Saiyan God" and Ssj4 should have just been the "Ultimate Saiyan form" or something like that.

  • @ChiChiLand299
    @ChiChiLand299 4 года назад +6

    Combined werewolf with anyting! Hahahaha! Seriously do it. Or combined Oozaru with any of the Saiyan transformations. I love monsters if you can't tell. 😁

  • @silverdaniel724
    @silverdaniel724 4 года назад +1

    Combine Xeno Goku with CTG(Canon Timeline Goku) with the Metamora Fusion, then, we combine Xeno Vegeta and CTV(Canon Timeline Vegeta) with the Metamora fusion too, and then we combine them with another Metamora fusion.
    Then, we get Broly from the DBHT(Dragon Ball Heroes Timeline) and do the Potara Fusion. And then we ask the Old Kaioshin to unlock the potential of the fusion, basically Ultimate form.
    The Result is:
    Xeno Ultimate Legendary Ultra Instinct Super Sayan Blue Evolution 4 Kaioken x20 Brotarot

  • @gmchingosho
    @gmchingosho 4 года назад +1

    The Idea of MUi Blue is just yes crazy for plot terms i mean look what MUi alone did to goku imagine him using blue on top of that, which isnt even mastered like in the manga so theres still a stamina drain, if this were ever to be used, which i highly doubt, this would force goku to go beyond the chains of time and last resort his way to victory and then instantly power down but i believe even if he did this he'd basically end up with the effects of overusing kaioken on his body he explodes

  • @Devil-Damon
    @Devil-Damon 4 года назад +3

    i wanna see ssj4 again mabye with blue or kioken they could use in the direction dbsuper is going

  • @stevs4696
    @stevs4696 4 года назад +5

    Please we all know that the best form is ssj4god ultra ultimate rainbow legendary suber sayian

  • @eskay3716
    @eskay3716 3 года назад +2

    3:53 legendary ssj2!!!

  • @2Bound2
    @2Bound2 3 года назад +1

    I mean Blue is combining God and regular SSJ so technically speaking he can combine 2 and 3 with blue so it’s not too far off

  • @arthurdergadocruz4553
    @arthurdergadocruz4553 Год назад +3

    10:21 yes it is

  • @fade_squid2053
    @fade_squid2053 4 года назад +3

    11:08 what he said was not ssjb

  • @sarcasticsuperjerk18
    @sarcasticsuperjerk18 3 года назад

    I like how Kaioken is basically the answer to becoming stronger for the rest of the side cast...yet in the manga Goku has never used it ever since he turned SSJ for the first time. Kaioken is literally the most flexible technique in the series, Piccolo and the humans could just get their ultimate forms (which should be strong enough to catch up to SSJ3) and stack up Kaioken, there’s no drawback because going Ultimate is essentially going SSJ in base.

  • @XAEzl
    @XAEzl 4 года назад +2

    If the combining transformations of the fusees makes a new transformation, then, Evolved Super Saiyan blue kaioken!

  • @ultimateninja3703
    @ultimateninja3703 4 года назад +3

    vegeto or gogeta with a fused form of SSBKK and SSBE, or maybe SSB fused with MUI, since MUI is a technique and not a form, it could work out.

    • @ymk.-
      @ymk.- 3 года назад

      mui is both a technique and form

  • @Darkswordz
    @Darkswordz 4 года назад +4

    Combine Legendary SS with Ultra Instinct.

  • @o0.umbra.0o
    @o0.umbra.0o 2 месяца назад

    4 years late to the party, but that's alright. So, I've recently watched the "What If SSJ4 Was Canon" video, and I started thinking of ideas on how I'd make a God Ki SSJ4. Going on the same baseline as Salad brought up where you had to master the Ozaaru, Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan God to work in harmony. The way I thought about it was for a Saiyan to achieve a form of spiritual training, finding inner peace and aligning their mind, body, and spirit together.
    The mind is tied to Super Saiyan God.
    The body is tied to Super Saiyan.
    The spirit is tied to the Ozaaru.
    When aligned, the powers merge together to create what I call Super Saiyan Prime. Visually, it looks like SSJ4 with dark purple body fur and light purple hair with yellow eyes, but conceptually, it brings a Saiyan right into their fighting prime while being able to self adapt to a situation they're in and can continue to grow stronger throughout the fight. Busted, no doubt. I did the math in the base multiplier. I used Limit Breaker and Super Saiyan God's multipliers, and I got a 2 billion base multiplier. And to compare it to see if this was in the realm of possibility, I looked at Ultra Instinct's base multiplier, and it is MUCH higher than my Super Saiyan Prime.
    But anyways, that was my idea on a new form.

  • @guilhermereis4354
    @guilhermereis4354 Год назад +1

    2 years after this video and some of the transformations are confirmed now.
    Black can go ssj2 and ssj3 rose in dragon ball heroes, and if rose is just blue with god ki, then ssj2 and ssj3 blue must exist as well.
    For the ultimate Gohan form, it evolved for something they called "Gohan Beast" in the last movie. We still don't know what it is exactly (and maybe never will), but maybe it can be a fusion of ssj2 (since they have the same hair stile) and Ultimate Gohan (since the white aura).
    We now have a new Vegeta form, the "Ultimate Ego" or the "God of Destruction", and it is theory it maybe could be combined with past ssj form. It is a form equivalent to the Ultimate Instinct in power, so if Goku could merge his form with other ssj forms so the same would be true to Vegeta. We still haven't seen it happening yet, but Goku have shown the dodging ability of Ultra Instinct in base form, and in the same way Vegeta used destruction power in base form while training with Beerus, so maybe its a possibility to merge this powers with other forms.
    Freeza also has a new form, "Black Freeza", but his forms are more linear in progression then the ssj forms, so I don't think its possible to merge it with other forms.
    Piccolo also have a new form, "Orange Piccolo" that he can merge with his giant form.
    At the end I think you forget a Trunks form from the anime, the "ssj Rage", or Super Trunks were he has the ss2 golden hair and an blue and yellow aura. We don't know what this form is but by the appearance it seems to be a merge of ssj2 and ssj Blue, like an incomplete form of Blue were the transformations stops in the middle of Blue and ssj2. But since we don't have an actual explanation for that form we don't know for sure.
    Good video, love your content!

  • @nopenotme4174
    @nopenotme4174 4 года назад +3

    Wait you said at 2:00 but this is fine lmao

  • @joelbaeza734
    @joelbaeza734 4 года назад +4

    Did cell join the incredibles or did Disney but him too

  • @thomasturner4194
    @thomasturner4194 3 года назад

    They're using that Ikari form in the Merno Universe 13 arc. What I mean is that Vegeta combined the primal power of the Saiyans with blue and got the SSJ4 form but calls it Primal SSB. He looks EXACTLY like SSJ4 Vegeta but no fur or tail. It's epic asf.

  • @HORRIOR1
    @HORRIOR1 Год назад +1

    I would like to see Broly's god forms. The God Broly form from video games would be Ikari+SSG and then there would be a SSB version beyond that.
    Also, I would love to see a combination of Kaioken and Ultra Ego. Extremely unstable, but the damage Kaioken causes to the user would boost Ultra Ego on its own. Wish the user to be immortal with Super Dragon Balls and watch the universe implode.

  • @brockbillings4299
    @brockbillings4299 4 года назад +3

    Blue evolution kaioken gogeta/vegito. Thats all I want to see

  • @mohamedrafik2237
    @mohamedrafik2237 4 года назад +3

    I wish to see the wrathful form with super saiyan = ss4

    • @Aesirfollower2020
      @Aesirfollower2020 4 года назад +1

      SSJ with ikari would be weaker than golden ozaru

  • @nurielisrael4508
    @nurielisrael4508 4 года назад +2

    I'd like to see ultimate mixed with kaioken since ultimate brings out the users full potential kaioken may be able to be used at higher levels than even Goku can do

  • @HeReS_JoHnNy-qc6vy
    @HeReS_JoHnNy-qc6vy 4 года назад +1

    I keep on thinking about the prospect of gohan gaining god ki, and using it with his ultimate form. From what I understand, god ki enhances normal ki by a pretty substantial amount.

    • @matteulberg3690
      @matteulberg3690 2 года назад

      i feel like he could get better ki control like goku does in ssjb and then with that control he could stack kaioken on top of mystic. question is can you stack kaioken on mystic? i think maybe you could since it's a technique that's not native to the saiyans. it's an unnatural way of pushing beyond your limits. So maybe.

  • @gabrielchastain6091
    @gabrielchastain6091 4 года назад +8

    7:50 gt is Canon to a seperate timeline and heroes is Canon too
    It travels through the timelines

    • @brantaku6737
      @brantaku6737 4 года назад +2

      Gabriel Chastain he means canon to the main timeline

    • @brandonsmith2172
      @brandonsmith2172 4 года назад

      Gabriel Chastain Canon in itself means something that follows the same continuity of the main story. Also something that doesn’t contradict the main story and continuity. Heroes and gt both contradict the continuity therefore cannot be canon.

    • @gabrielchastain6091
      @gabrielchastain6091 4 года назад

      @@brandonsmith2172 well it is following the main story
      The original mainstory before super
      Gt is canon
      To a seperate timeline
      Like how the movies are canon to another timeline

    • @gabrielchastain6091
      @gabrielchastain6091 4 года назад

      @@brandonsmith2172 heroes is far more non canon then gt

    • @brandonsmith2172
      @brandonsmith2172 4 года назад

      Gabriel Chastain No not really. Super is canon and since gt doesn’t follow super, it is not canon. Also it never was canon since it contradicts the manga. Super the anime doesn’t contradict Kai and super the manga, well it’s the manga. Ultimately gt just doesn’t happen in the canon continuity.

  • @MLGmaster-gk9oz
    @MLGmaster-gk9oz 4 года назад +3

    What I want to see is mystic and ui they both have good auras and then neither of them use stamina so imagine how long the fighter would be able to last

  • @elapidpython4378
    @elapidpython4378 Год назад +2

    I actually think SSB4 would be really cool I dont know how they would do it maybe have the universe 6 saiyans hit 4 and then have goku or vegeta learn 4 from them and then combine it with god I dont know I just want 4 to come back because its the coolest looking form in my opinion

  • @superslimshady
    @superslimshady 3 года назад +1

    I think god and ssj4 combined would be cool. Ssj4 with divine ki, as far as design goes i’m guessing it’ll look like how gogeta did in gt just without the metamoran clothes.

  • @epiccraftmine4976
    @epiccraftmine4976 4 года назад +4

    Fan: Ssgss is stronger!
    GT fan: no ssj4 is!
    Me: ladies ladies, come down have a fusion of Ssgss and ssj4
    Fans: 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

  • @XAEzl
    @XAEzl 4 года назад

    Super Saiyan is not a multiplier, it's a significant addition

  • @randomstuff5372
    @randomstuff5372 4 года назад +1

    Hope everyone has a happy Christmas 🎄

  • @conzillahh8363
    @conzillahh8363 3 года назад

    Thanks for reminding me that we live in a world where super saiyan god super saiyan kaioken is an OFFICIAL thing in dragon ball

  • @xero1048
    @xero1048 Год назад

    This video aged pretty well. Gohan using ultimate super saiyan is essentially gohan beast. And Goku using ultra instinct with his god forms happened in the manga.

  • @Tacoman0301
    @Tacoman0301 3 года назад

    There was a concept I saw online. It was the Super Saiyan transformation with yellow eyes, pupils resembling Super Saiyan God’s. The concept is a combination of ssj1, ssj2, and ssj3, once they were all mastered. It would fall just short of Super Saiyan God’s power. I find the concept interesting, and in my opinion, it’s the best I’ve seen so far.

  • @waxgolfentertainment3679
    @waxgolfentertainment3679 4 года назад

    Bro congratulations on the 39.6k subs been senice 500 subs

  • @OsaBreezski
    @OsaBreezski 4 года назад +1

    Imagine this
    Mastered ultra instinct,KAIOKENx100,SSJBE,SSJ4,SSJG,LSSJG,MYSTIC,GOLDEN APE,
    + Gogeta
    Imagine how broken that mode would be

  • @davidtheboss22
    @davidtheboss22 3 года назад +1

    I know I'm extremely late but I can see a way to include mystic (ultimate) + ssj. Let's just say that in an arc they need cell whether it's t.o.p 2 or just an enemy that is weak to cell in some way. It would be great if cell got mad at gohan for not using ssj with ultimate. Saying that he's disappointed that the one who killed him using ssj doesn't even want to think of using it. It would give cell and gohan character development and I think would be great