Don Flamingo no it’s not the tail it was that since he was back to a kid he lost most of his abilities except transformations ssj3 used up too much energy so he could never really use it
@@christiantepepa5614 no I'm saying he grew his tail out in his kid form to remove the strain so he could reenter ssj3. If he was an adult with a tail I think that'd be perfect.
@@etheriousnatsudragneel5835 well, in this level of mastering, he is like his base, or even weaker, because he has full control. Is like he using SSJ Blue against Krillin. In mastered and divine forms he can control how much power he can use. So, Chi-Chi's hits would still hurt against a SSJ3 Goku lol.
I imagined when Goku doing his supreme Kamehameha he would gradually go from ssj3 to 2 to 1 to base as the attack goes on since he would expand his ressources to make sure to defeat buu
If only he kept his tail and just used it like SSJ Grade 4- but the real reason let's be honest is that the hair too long and takes too long to draw properly whilst it sways and then to shade it takes more time
For some reason, I was very interested in SSJ3, and it's a shame that the Buu Saga as is didn't explore the form more. I love the idea of Goku finishing Buu off with a full powered SSJ3 Supreme Kamehameha.
Honestly? Probably one of your better theories. I really enjoyed it. It's not too crazy, and has some solid logic behind it, well done! Plus some thought into what this means later in the series, so good on you!
I like the idea that the Saiyan tail was crucial to mastering SS3: it keeps the old db content (tail) still relevant instead of phased out and forgotten, it being a requirement to access the true potential of SS3 gives both future potential pathways for growth (SS3 Blue/Kaioken?) AND a vulnerability to exploit to de power later during a future villan arc, on so they aren’t just OP all the time. It’d be nice to see some original saying power being focused on again instead of forgotten in Lieu if God power all the time
Well, I mean in GT Goku in a child body couldn't utilize the form for more than 2/3 minutes at max. After getting his tail back he could use it way better, the tail helping with the flow of Ki.
@@acatondrugwhichcansmellcol186 did you forget that he trained before getting his tail pulled out, which helped him build up more stamina? Old Kai saying it "unlocks his true potential“ was in reference to Ssj4. Goku got still manhandled by Baby even after returning with a tail and ssj3.
Great job with this, man! Super Saiyan 3 is one of my favorite forms in Dragon Ball, but it's a real shame that the drawbacks drag it down. I have an OC, and he's a Saiyan named Daiko, the son of Fasha/Selypa. And even though I haven't come close to starting to write the story series he's part of, I've already decided that, after unlocking SSJ3 during the battle against Kid Buu, Daiko will suggest trying to master the form, which will get Goku to do the same, and possibly persuade Vegeta to get it so he can master it too. And I definitely hope that we'll see Super Saiyan 3 being mastered in the official material... but only if the artists/animators have enough time and patience to draw all that hair.
My theory on this was if he could control the form, his hair would shorten to about ss4 length. I like to think his hair is a parallel to his power leak. Ssj2 had a tighter spiked hair than ssj1. Yeah, a bit of an odd way of looking at it, but when I saw ssj4, I always felt it was Goku trying to channel ssj3, which was his highest form up to that point, but because he was able to control it, he pushed to ssj4. Just my thoughts. What you think @saiyansalad
ssj4 is just goku controlling golden oozaru, great ape and super saiyan, and condensing it into a humanoid form. Got nothing to do with super saiyan 3, but I do like the idea of his hair shortening due to pulling all his ki into his body.
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Well, if he has less stamina issues to worry about, he might be willing to whip it out against Vegeta, which could alter the Buu arc - and Vegeta’s character - more than one might think.
12:12 YES! It is about time Super did something different. Enough Power-up transformations, it is becoming too predicatble by this point. Atleast have Goku and/or Vegeta master one of their previous transformation. I mean come on, SSJ3 was made and introduced to show that there is a power beyond and far stronger than SSJ2. The logical thing to do is train and work out its flaw, like in this WHiM. They did it to SSJ, so why not SSJ3? I feel like Super now is just a fan service for transformations
@RG 96 Well in GT it kinda did. Goku never went to Ssj 2 meaning he upgraded his Ssj state so much that the difference of power between these 2 transformations is almost none.
i think the real potential would be in them diversifying the options. I would like to see Vegeta and Goku (and the others) go into different directions more instead of always using the same forms. The Kaioken was always a thing that set Goku and Vegeta apart. Now MUI is doing the same. It would have been cool to see Gohan pursue his ultimate form more. And maybe Vegeta would look at Gohan and realize one of the reasons he always lagged behind Goku was that he ultimately always imitated his techniques and forms. Their fighting styles are different so maybe it would make more sense for him trying to find a way that suits him more. Maybe while trying to unify Blue and SSJ3 he finds a mixed form or breaks through to SSj4, while Goku tries to find a more usable version of the Ultra instinct that is somewhere in the middle between super saiyan god and MUI. Dunno - DBZ always ended up streamlining the options down to one go-to form. Would like to see more variety and individual styles.
Love this video! SS3 is one of my favorite transformations. I would love to see this form perfected. If Goku and Vegeta don’t want to use it it would be great if Goten and Trunks learn how to perfect all the transformation especially SS3 and find another form
In all reality their personalities wouldn't align with this path, Goku has always focused more on techniques than raw power, while Vegeta has never really bothered with anything other than gaining raw strength, Goku would still tend more towards technique and ultra instinct, while Vegetas personality would tend more towards the raw destructive power of G.O.D
All Goku needs to do is exactly what he did with Super Saiyan 1, he and young Gohan especially had the exact same problem and they didn't have to hold in the energy or anything like that. They just worked on maintaining the form until it felt as natural as breathing, and as a consequence the strain and energy leak subsided.
Not quite what you're after, but check out MasakoX's 'What If Raditz Turned Good' series. While Raditz himself doesn't get the form, Super Saiyan 4 DOES feature.
I’ve been working on my own character and part of the idea is “mastered ssj3” except I hate the long hair so how it works in my story is the regular ssj3 is Unmastered but when you master it it’ll look like the SSJ3 concept art with short hair and a tail...
This is an idea I had: What if, in battle of gods, instead of introducing super saiyan god only for it to then be replaced by super saiyan blue, which itself became kinda useless, they perfected super saiyan 3. What I mean is that like with blue in the manga, goku absorbs his aura and wastes no ki with super saiyan 3, powering it up and eliminating the stamina drain, but requiring complete focus and could hurt the body if any ki leaks out, sorta like kaioken, so ssj2 is used as a more safe but weaker option. So while super saiyan 3 is their most powerful form, it also comes with the added risk of damaging the body, until the ToP where goku and vegeta can now freely use it. Perfected super saiyan 3 could be used aswell since goku can now use super saiyan 3 without stamina drain, but with the higher power comes higher risk. And god ki could be made more special, with ultra ego and instinct utilizing it.
The scene on the world of the kais made me think of something. What if buu didn’t follow then to the world of the kais? So the z fighters (what’s left of them) are training with the kais to be able to defeat buu. They can’t bring the earth back yet because buu will destroy it, and they aren’t confident in their ability to destroy it. At least until beerus wakes up.
The ssj3 form has a similar draw back is similar to the top tiers of kaioken, just with less physical damage. Just using the full power when needed rather than at all times being in top form the full time
Since super saiyan blue is "god ki + super saiyan" do you think the mastery of super saiyan 3 would introduce a new form of super saiyan god? Like a God ki +super saiyan 3? If so would this new power rival that of autonomous ultra instinct or would it only make ultra instinct that much stronger?
eh, I'd say a ssjb 3 or whatever would only be 8x stronger than regular blue, nowhere near UI, and it wouldn't really make UI stronger since UI has nothing to do with saiyan forms.
Ultra Instinct Animations I don't believe you would be able to, Jiren's speed is on Par with Ultra Instinct so he would most likely be able to dodge the energy absorption.
I think the answer is pretty clear: Buu would get stomped. It's worth pointing out that against Cell, Goku had both a higher powerlevel and a new 'form' of Super Saiyan. Previously he was below Androids 16, 17, and 18; now he's stronger than Perfect Cell's Heavily Held Back Power. Whether Goku mastered Super Saiyan 2 is unknown, but there's an argument for it since he does learn Super Saiyan 3 and all of the other saiyans figure out the Mastered Super Saiyan state, though it's never pointed out. Anyway, so, we know SS3 has the massive ki and stamina issues. Goku might've been able to beat Fat Buu (I say no, based on his reactions to Super Buu and the fact that Super Buu and Fat Buu should theoretically have the same strength because they have the same fusees), but he absolutely could've beat Kid Buu had he the stamina to maintain the form and had he gone all out and not worried about giving Vegeta a chance. So a Goku who trained for another six months and mastered the form would theoretically be 1) stronger powerlevel and 2) negligible issues. Kid buu gets stomped. Problem? There's no time to actually do that training during the arc. It would've had to have been done before hand. And that would also mean that he should've curbstomped Vegeta even more, like, Vegeta shouldn't even get to be sneaky and steal a win. Food for thought: Vegeta using all his ki AND lifeforce wasn't enough to defeat Fat Buu, but he came VERY close. If Vegeta and Goku had worked together, they probably could've beaten him after a very hard battle, without having to go SS3.
goku could always beat fat buu, he just wanted to make sure that the future generation could handle threats like buu which is why he didn't destroy him. Plus super buu is very clearly stronger, probably due to the fact that he isn't being held back by supreme grand kai's kindness.
@@ProjektTaku But he still has it. They have the same components, which is why I said they should theoretically be the same strength. Super Buu is more dangerous because of his personality and his willingness to be violent and murderous.
@@ElladanKenet no. super is just established to be stronger than fat buu. Its very well known. Sure super buu is more dangerous because of his violent nature, but he's also stronger.
Although I don't think that the broly movie is necessary to go into, I think that this could lead to Goku actually reaching the completed version of UI at will after the little time he had training with merus therefore saving him from having to sacrifice himself (angel self)
GT says the only way to master SSJ3 is to have a tail. Let’s make an actual story of Raditz returning with SSJ3 against Goku struggling with SSJ3 himself to fight Raditz than switches to SSGSS to defeat him and Goku figures out a way to grow back his tail to not let his guard down like that again.
He could easily master it but there wouldn’t be a point because he doesn’t use ssj3 at all in super and it trains his ki to quickly.He only used ssj3 twice in super.
@GoDlyguy That's a lie, if he had a low potential, he'd be no match for characters like Hit. Goku would end up killing Buu, in Super he would do better against Beerus on King Kai's planet, but still lose. Goku becomes SSJG and they fight again. Nothing changes in Resurrection Of F. Nothing changes in Future Trunks arc. In the TOP Gohan would probably be knocked out by Toppo. Frieza gets knocked out by Dyspo because of his speed. However, to help Goku and Vegeta, 17 explodes, knocking off Toppo and Dyspo. Just like in the manga, Goku and Vegeta fight together damaging Jiren. Jiren goes full power and tries to knock off Vegeta but 17 holds it off. Goku and Vegeta fight together again with 17 as backup. Goku Vegeta and Jiren fall off, and 17 wins.
my favourite Super Saiyan forms are SSJ3 and Broly's Legendary form, the changes to the eyes make them look brutal, so I am glad you found a way to fix it.
Watched this again and still love it. Would love to see a sequel or what if Goku and Vegeta train Goten and Trunks to master SS3 and then Goku and Vegeta go their godly forms, Gohan goes his Beast form, and Goten and Trunks follow their own path. Regardless great what if again.
Salad: goes 2 and a half minutes over the time limit he set in the first WhiM but still cause at what if mini. Me: Is this WHiM or not? Also me: toriyama made only one SSJ3 grade (because there were to many grades on 1 and 2) so you can not reach grade 4 or mastered super saiyan 3 but still like the idea of it.
It would be more like Full Power Super Saiyan 3 at first. Mastered means complete control over the form without having to do anything to keep the form like how Goku did with Super Saiyan. After that when they don't have to focus their Ki and just do it subconsciously then yes it is Mastered Super Saiyan 3 or Mastered Full Power Super Saiyan 3.
@SethColby69 I do with agree the dude.Who knows, if toriyama wasnt lazy to draw the eyebrows we couldve gotten two versions of Ssj3 having different features & why not say so just for the fun. 1st Version - Ssj3 Grade 1/The current ssj3: Has no eyebrows 2nd Version Ssj3 Grade 2/Perfected Ssj3: Has eyebrows & blank eyes or has multiplier more than x4(I thought of that as an extra feature)
thing is goku can master super saiyan 3 , the problem is toriyama is just too lazy TO DRAW ALL THAT DAMN HAIR
He doesn't do much of the drawing anymore
In The Making of SSJ3 One Of The Design had SSJ3 WITH Shorter Hair And Bit Long But Short
Lol
Who is biggest enemy of Toriyama and the animators of DB - SSJ3 Goku, or the spots on Cell?
He's not lazy, at least not entirely. Not exactly easy to draw.
What sucks is that we could’ve seen a more “perfected” version of ssj3 in GT but Goku’s kid body couldn’t handle it
Yeah he needed his tail for it. If he was adult at the time he'd bust put supersaiyan 3's everywhere.
Don Flamingo no it’s not the tail it was that since he was back to a kid he lost most of his abilities except transformations ssj3 used up too much energy so he could never really use it
@@christiantepepa5614 no I'm saying he grew his tail out in his kid form to remove the strain so he could reenter ssj3. If he was an adult with a tail I think that'd be perfect.
Chrisrex 93 the main issue is why somebody never fucking killed pilaf
The problem is after Goku got his tail there'd be no need since the tail would stop the stamina drain
Finally some one made this theory give ss3 some love
Yes ss3
Ikr
Why
Right
ON GOD NO CAP LOL
Imagine if he regains the eyebrows when he masters it.
You unlocked the true power of ssj3 you may have these back
i googled 'ssj3 goku with eyebrows' after reading your comment
Clasher X - Clash Of Clans oh no
I Photoshoped it
and trust me better with none i tried it on vegeta and it looks good
As much as we’ve seen him without them it just wouldn’t look right lol
imagine he masters it like ss1 and he walks around with long ass hair and no eyebrows 🤣
The planet would be in constant danger of d
Goku sneezing
Lmao
@@etheriousnatsudragneel5835 well, in this level of mastering, he is like his base, or even weaker, because he has full control. Is like he using SSJ Blue against Krillin. In mastered and divine forms he can control how much power he can use. So, Chi-Chi's hits would still hurt against a SSJ3 Goku lol.
Soo he'd be raditz
@@daviddoesstuffandthingigue966 XD yes without eyebrows and golden hair
Vegeta actually yelling 'LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!' would've been hilarious.
Let's Goooooooooooo, Da Baby Let's Gooooooooooooo
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki da baby vegeta Let's Gooooooooooo
Use “”
I imagined when Goku doing his supreme Kamehameha he would gradually go from ssj3 to 2 to 1 to base as the attack goes on since he would expand his ressources to make sure to defeat buu
If only he kept his tail and just used it like SSJ Grade 4- but the real reason let's be honest is that the hair too long and takes too long to draw properly whilst it sways and then to shade it takes more time
Fun Fact SSJ3 Was Orginally Supposed To Have A Tail
@@XJSPlays02 they could at it
Lord Yamcha why did you change your profile picture to a NOT YAMCHA PICTURE!!?!
@@roebig9766 because he can!
@@Radiomen_IV it makes no sense
Like the process of mastering SSJ, I think he can become much more stronger in the base form in the process of mastering SSJ3.
that was only cause he was training in ssj, but I see your point.
6:52 finally, vegeta in ssj3, this must be a dream come true
He basically already has it he probably just doesnt use it since it drains.
For some reason, I was very interested in SSJ3, and it's a shame that the Buu Saga as is didn't explore the form more. I love the idea of Goku finishing Buu off with a full powered SSJ3 Supreme Kamehameha.
I've got an exploration I'm developing that I believe would be worth your time.
@Eric bro what?
@Eric I mean, you don't gotta be in a specific form to use certain moves
I read this right when he said it
This is the opposite of carthus
Hey, you were first! :D
Your first, and you have an original comment gj!
HE DOESNT LIKEIT FOR SOME REASON
gg boi you are a bloody legend (or you just watch too much RUclips)
Better then being the same then People would complein that he is copying Carthu
Imagine stacking kaioken x20 on top of ssj3
It would be impossible because it’s fuelled by rage and are incompatible
@Jisan Pissan salad did before in what if goku stayed dead or piccolo saved the future
krillen: what's that red mist falling from the sky?
piccolo: oh, that's just goku. he tried combining ssj3 with kaioken.
krillen: well, shit....
That, to put it lightly, would suck. Probably as bad or even worse than the eighth gate in naruto
@@jisanpissan2900 your thinking of the spirit bomb
Honestly? Probably one of your better theories. I really enjoyed it. It's not too crazy, and has some solid logic behind it, well done! Plus some thought into what this means later in the series, so good on you!
I like the idea that the Saiyan tail was crucial to mastering SS3: it keeps the old db content (tail) still relevant instead of phased out and forgotten, it being a requirement to access the true potential of SS3 gives both future potential pathways for growth (SS3 Blue/Kaioken?) AND a vulnerability to exploit to de power later during a future villan arc, on so they aren’t just OP all the time. It’d be nice to see some original saying power being focused on again instead of forgotten in Lieu if God power all the time
Well, I mean in GT Goku in a child body couldn't utilize the form for more than 2/3 minutes at max.
After getting his tail back he could use it way better, the tail helping with the flow of Ki.
@@acatondrugwhichcansmellcol186 did you forget that he trained before getting his tail pulled out, which helped him build up more stamina? Old Kai saying it "unlocks his true potential“ was in reference to Ssj4. Goku got still manhandled by Baby even after returning with a tail and ssj3.
I always thought ssj3 had a lot of potential because of how hard it is to maintain and master.
I would of called it “True Kamehameha”
Get ready for the real deal
Gameboy _ Yessir💯💯
@@Heavenly_Senshi aye
True full powered Kamehameha
Salad: What if Mini!
Video Time: 12 minutes.
Ironic
Usually they last up to an hour
Tyler Roman those are the whole series of those what ifs
@@Kodyow I think he's joking, but you never know
He calls them What If Minis because he can't make a full series out of them. They don't have to be short.
what if minis are more than 1 part,some of them
No one:
Literally not a single living soul:
Vegeta:
Let's gooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Bruh wtf I been a follower on ur meme page for a while and I didn’t even know u had a RUclips channel 😭😭😭
LOL yea that’s a lot of people’s reactions, surprisingly not a lot of Salad Snake followers here
SALAD SAIYAN HAS A *M E M E P A G E ?*
@@CrimsonCaII I THOUGH THE SAME THING LMAO.
he has three 😳
Bruh
Imagine if this happened, I would be happy because SSJ3 is my favorite Super Saiyan Form
Great job with this, man! Super Saiyan 3 is one of my favorite forms in Dragon Ball, but it's a real shame that the drawbacks drag it down.
I have an OC, and he's a Saiyan named Daiko, the son of Fasha/Selypa. And even though I haven't come close to starting to write the story series he's part of, I've already decided that, after unlocking SSJ3 during the battle against Kid Buu, Daiko will suggest trying to master the form, which will get Goku to do the same, and possibly persuade Vegeta to get it so he can master it too.
And I definitely hope that we'll see Super Saiyan 3 being mastered in the official material... but only if the artists/animators have enough time and patience to draw all that hair.
Did you wrote it?
@@Mateus-fw5ml No. I estimate I'd probably start in 2022.
@@dairenoh693 cool! Send the link when you start!!
I WAS THINKING VOF THIS YESTERDAY!
HE LOOKS THE SAME BUT IT'S A NEW GOLDEN AURA AROUND HIM AND HE DOES THE DRAGON FIST
MY 4TH FAVORITE FORM
ssj4 best form
kalzy ツ oooooh boy here it starts..
My theory on this was if he could control the form, his hair would shorten to about ss4 length. I like to think his hair is a parallel to his power leak. Ssj2 had a tighter spiked hair than ssj1. Yeah, a bit of an odd way of looking at it, but when I saw ssj4, I always felt it was Goku trying to channel ssj3, which was his highest form up to that point, but because he was able to control it, he pushed to ssj4. Just my thoughts. What you think @saiyansalad
ssj4 is just goku controlling golden oozaru, great ape and super saiyan, and condensing it into a humanoid form.
Got nothing to do with super saiyan 3, but I do like the idea of his hair shortening due to pulling all his ki into his body.
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The duality of man
The duality of dragontuber
I was just thinking about this until this popped up
He did a pole and this won
Coincidence...
Spooky
What if Buu didn't fall asleep for the ToP or U6 tournament?
MasakoX And Carthu Did That
@@XJSPlays02 ye but every what if is different for everyone that makes it
That would be bad for ToP coz Frieza is so much stronger than Buu
Then again he might be able to eat Jiren
Ok Buu is a good choice
Anime Texting Stories Buu may be weaker then Frieza but Buu has healing magic and can restore peoples ki
Couldn't buu just absorb everyone and spit them off the edge once he's finished
You keep us intertaind during these tough
If that would've happened, I think they would fuse and become ssj3 Gogeta or Vegito.
why?
Vegetto and gogeta could already do that.
Well, if he has less stamina issues to worry about, he might be willing to whip it out against Vegeta, which could alter the Buu arc - and Vegeta’s character - more than one might think.
He would not do it, against vegeta remained ssj2 to not humiliate him
Cumber Somehow Mastered SSJ3 Outta Nowhere While Fighting Jiren
Actually Cumber has just Super Saiyan its been confirmed that Cumber when he transformed is just Super Saiyan not Super Saiyan 3.
The DBH plot sounds like it was put inside a random plot generator.
@@SuperSaiyan2Ethan no, he loses eyebrows. He has both forms. You can see it in the games too.
Super Saiyan 2 Ethan nah, he doesn’t have eyebrows. He can go ssj3.
Super Saiyan 2 Ethan pretty sure he doesn’t have eyebrows
12:12
YES! It is about time Super did something different. Enough Power-up transformations, it is becoming too predicatble by this point. Atleast have Goku and/or Vegeta master one of their previous transformation.
I mean come on, SSJ3 was made and introduced to show that there is a power beyond and far stronger than SSJ2. The logical thing to do is train and work out its flaw, like in this WHiM. They did it to SSJ, so why not SSJ3?
I feel like Super now is just a fan service for transformations
@RG 96 they did it on the time chamber before cell games
@RG 96 Well in GT it kinda did.
Goku never went to Ssj 2 meaning he upgraded his Ssj state so much that the difference of power between these 2 transformations is almost none.
i think the real potential would be in them diversifying the options. I would like to see Vegeta and Goku (and the others) go into different directions more instead of always using the same forms.
The Kaioken was always a thing that set Goku and Vegeta apart. Now MUI is doing the same.
It would have been cool to see Gohan pursue his ultimate form more.
And maybe Vegeta would look at Gohan and realize one of the reasons he always lagged behind Goku was that he ultimately always imitated his techniques and forms. Their fighting styles are different so maybe it would make more sense for him trying to find a way that suits him more.
Maybe while trying to unify Blue and SSJ3 he finds a mixed form or breaks through to SSj4, while Goku tries to find a more usable version of the Ultra instinct that is somewhere in the middle between super saiyan god and MUI.
Dunno - DBZ always ended up streamlining the options down to one go-to form. Would like to see more variety and individual styles.
now we got true ultra instinct goku, ultra ego vegeta, and beast gohan.
An animator said if ssj3 would more effective when it has the tail, the tail was the reason to tie the link to the primal saiyan.
Imagine if he just walks around with kaioken x 20 forever lol
Love this video! SS3 is one of my favorite transformations. I would love to see this form perfected. If Goku and Vegeta don’t want to use it it would be great if Goten and Trunks learn how to perfect all the transformation especially SS3 and find another form
8:36
Goku training with beerus changes alot , goku well learn haki and blue evolution while vegeta gets ultra instinct.
In all reality their personalities wouldn't align with this path, Goku has always focused more on techniques than raw power, while Vegeta has never really bothered with anything other than gaining raw strength, Goku would still tend more towards technique and ultra instinct, while Vegetas personality would tend more towards the raw destructive power of G.O.D
You are the one of the best RUclipsr ever in the history of RUclips
What if Piccolo absorbed all the Namekians from New Namek before the T.O.P.?
he's be about 1% stronger than he originally was.
that would just be rude
He wouldnt get much stronger at all. Their race is simply not a fighting race. Piccolo and kami is just a rare breed of namekian.
@@KillerFeed a SUPER rare breed
@@KillerFeed you forgot NAAAAAAAIIIIIILLLLLLL
I love how you made this video upon making Goten and Trunks and the SSJ3 form more relevant. This was awesome!
Imagine if they could combine SSJB and SSJ3...
. - .
And then they combine SSJB3 with SSJB Evolution or Kaioken x10/20...
He will destroy himself by combining SSB3 with Blue Evolution and Kaioken x10 and x20 he will shattered to million pieces.
*_Then try to imagine, what if his body was unbreakable first._*
I M A G I N E .
The reply from me felt kinda aggressive ngl...
Welp that isn't possible, mui and ego is the new thing
super saiyan blue 3 kaioken times 20x
Hey salad, can you do what if grandpa gohan never died. This would mean goku would be much stronger and you are the best at covering these what ifs
5:36
I actually liked the name it had in raging blast the best: TRUE Kamehameha🔥💯
All Goku needs to do is exactly what he did with Super Saiyan 1, he and young Gohan especially had the exact same problem and they didn't have to hold in the energy or anything like that. They just worked on maintaining the form until it felt as natural as breathing, and as a consequence the strain and energy leak subsided.
The art style ar 2:01 and 3:29 for the SS3 is rather nice, anyone else wishing the entire anime had those styles instead of the more simplified one?
Wonderful video glad i subscribed
This made me think of another what if like what if goku stayed on earth while dead
Xavier Lynch we’ve had those already
5:43 "yeah get it hm yeah, negh i think it sounds cool" -salad saiyan
When you make other "What if Saiyan's were good" can you make Raditz transform in Super Saiyan 4 please 🙏🙏🙏
Not quite what you're after, but check out MasakoX's 'What If Raditz Turned Good' series. While Raditz himself doesn't get the form, Super Saiyan 4 DOES feature.
Nah I don't really like his channel and plus it was a suggestion I am not the only one who wants Raditz to be ssj4 in the video
@Milk man The gamer i still don't like him
Intense mental fortitude, doing it like was base form and immense strength training.
Great Theory, Salad Saiyan.
5:36 actually it's called the true kamehameha in the games
I’ve been working on my own character and part of the idea is “mastered ssj3” except I hate the long hair so how it works in my story is the regular ssj3 is Unmastered but when you master it it’ll look like the SSJ3 concept art with short hair and a tail...
Int SSJ3 Theme is my favorite theme in Dokkan.
This is an idea I had:
What if, in battle of gods, instead of introducing super saiyan god only for it to then be replaced by super saiyan blue, which itself became kinda useless, they perfected super saiyan 3.
What I mean is that like with blue in the manga, goku absorbs his aura and wastes no ki with super saiyan 3, powering it up and eliminating the stamina drain, but requiring complete focus and could hurt the body if any ki leaks out, sorta like kaioken, so ssj2 is used as a more safe but weaker option.
So while super saiyan 3 is their most powerful form, it also comes with the added risk of damaging the body, until the ToP where goku and vegeta can now freely use it.
Perfected super saiyan 3 could be used aswell since goku can now use super saiyan 3 without stamina drain, but with the higher power comes higher risk.
And god ki could be made more special, with ultra ego and instinct utilizing it.
The scene on the world of the kais made me think of something. What if buu didn’t follow then to the world of the kais? So the z fighters (what’s left of them) are training with the kais to be able to defeat buu. They can’t bring the earth back yet because buu will destroy it, and they aren’t confident in their ability to destroy it. At least until beerus wakes up.
Also ss3 is one of best transformations thanks for the vid salad saiyan
what if paragus could see the future
Dang thats a good idea
Why tho
Y not
Cuz vampa and broly and freiza with vegeta and stuff
YOU CAN SEE THE FUTUREEEEE
The ssj3 form has a similar draw back is similar to the top tiers of kaioken, just with less physical damage. Just using the full power when needed rather than at all times being in top form the full time
Anyone noticed the "LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" above vegeta? 😂
no we're all fucking blind
LETS GOOOOOOOO I noticed
@@justclark915 that is so true I dont know why he made this comment
Who didn't 😂
I like the what if minis that means you have more time to focus on the bigger what ifs and still get content out
Since super saiyan blue is "god ki + super saiyan" do you think the mastery of super saiyan 3 would introduce a new form of super saiyan god? Like a God ki +super saiyan 3? If so would this new power rival that of autonomous ultra instinct or would it only make ultra instinct that much stronger?
eh, I'd say a ssjb 3 or whatever would only be 8x stronger than regular blue, nowhere near UI, and it wouldn't really make UI stronger since UI has nothing to do with saiyan forms.
i love to see this Chanelle grow its amazing to see this chanelle when it was 1k subs and now it nearly 75k its amazing keep it up
Anyone remember the good ole days when Salad’s intro made our ears bleed?
This was great storytelling please do a part 2
What if Jiren fought Moro?
Moro would just use Jiren as an energy farm till Broly comes along
@@c0rrupt3d_g0d2 and then its just an unlimited buffet for a while
Ultra Instinct Animations I don't believe you would be able to, Jiren's speed is on Par with Ultra Instinct so he would most likely be able to dodge the energy absorption.
Sword Man he can’t, Moro eats the energy of every living thing on the planet
Sword Man did u even read the manga ? Man😒
This is an awesome video. Mastering SSJ3 really is useful and effective. If Goku snd Vegeta can mastered the SSJ forms, then SSJ3 should be easy
I think the answer is pretty clear: Buu would get stomped.
It's worth pointing out that against Cell, Goku had both a higher powerlevel and a new 'form' of Super Saiyan. Previously he was below Androids 16, 17, and 18; now he's stronger than Perfect Cell's Heavily Held Back Power.
Whether Goku mastered Super Saiyan 2 is unknown, but there's an argument for it since he does learn Super Saiyan 3 and all of the other saiyans figure out the Mastered Super Saiyan state, though it's never pointed out.
Anyway, so, we know SS3 has the massive ki and stamina issues. Goku might've been able to beat Fat Buu (I say no, based on his reactions to Super Buu and the fact that Super Buu and Fat Buu should theoretically have the same strength because they have the same fusees), but he absolutely could've beat Kid Buu had he the stamina to maintain the form and had he gone all out and not worried about giving Vegeta a chance. So a Goku who trained for another six months and mastered the form would theoretically be 1) stronger powerlevel and 2) negligible issues. Kid buu gets stomped.
Problem? There's no time to actually do that training during the arc. It would've had to have been done before hand. And that would also mean that he should've curbstomped Vegeta even more, like, Vegeta shouldn't even get to be sneaky and steal a win.
Food for thought: Vegeta using all his ki AND lifeforce wasn't enough to defeat Fat Buu, but he came VERY close. If Vegeta and Goku had worked together, they probably could've beaten him after a very hard battle, without having to go SS3.
goku could always beat fat buu, he just wanted to make sure that the future generation could handle threats like buu which is why he didn't destroy him.
Plus super buu is very clearly stronger, probably due to the fact that he isn't being held back by supreme grand kai's kindness.
@@ProjektTaku But he still has it. They have the same components, which is why I said they should theoretically be the same strength. Super Buu is more dangerous because of his personality and his willingness to be violent and murderous.
@@ElladanKenet no.
super is just established to be stronger than fat buu.
Its very well known.
Sure super buu is more dangerous because of his violent nature, but he's also stronger.
@@ProjektTaku Dude, I'm not disagreeing with you. Clearly he is. I'm just saying he shouldn't be.
Although I don't think that the broly movie is necessary to go into, I think that this could lead to Goku actually reaching the completed version of UI at will after the little time he had training with merus therefore saving him from having to sacrifice himself (angel self)
Is the person in your intro a modified future gohan
It’s future gohan + snake from metal gear
GT says the only way to master SSJ3 is to have a tail. Let’s make an actual story of Raditz returning with SSJ3 against Goku struggling with SSJ3 himself to fight Raditz than switches to SSGSS to defeat him and Goku figures out a way to grow back his tail to not let his guard down like that again.
He could easily master it but there wouldn’t be a point because he doesn’t use ssj3 at all in super and it trains his ki to quickly.He only used ssj3 twice in super.
Man this would have been awesome to see!
What if Goku got his potential unlocked instead of Gohan?
GoDlyguy gohan ain’t even do shit but get cocky and make buu stronger
@GoDlyguy That's a lie, if he had a low potential, he'd be no match for characters like Hit. Goku would end up killing Buu, in Super he would do better against Beerus on King Kai's planet, but still lose. Goku becomes SSJG and they fight again. Nothing changes in Resurrection Of F. Nothing changes in Future Trunks arc. In the TOP Gohan would probably be knocked out by Toppo. Frieza gets knocked out by Dyspo because of his speed. However, to help Goku and Vegeta, 17 explodes, knocking off Toppo and Dyspo. Just like in the manga, Goku and Vegeta fight together damaging Jiren. Jiren goes full power and tries to knock off Vegeta but 17 holds it off. Goku and Vegeta fight together again with 17 as backup. Goku Vegeta and Jiren fall off, and 17 wins.
@@SomeoneWhoExistsHereOnEarth so basically gohan gets wasted as a character
@@Airuz1 gohan is already wasted as a character after cell games
I was so excited for this one
Anyone else miffed by the intro?, the cybernetic arm starts around the elbow in the intro but after it's fired, it's closer to his shoulder.
my favourite Super Saiyan forms are SSJ3 and Broly's Legendary form, the changes to the eyes make them look brutal, so I am glad you found a way to fix it.
If this actually happens would it rival Gohan’s Mystic/Ultimate Form?
Love ur vids dude
Me: turns of ipad **ring**
me again: really 😑
Always happens
Watched this again and still love it. Would love to see a sequel or what if Goku and Vegeta train Goten and Trunks to master SS3 and then Goku and Vegeta go their godly forms, Gohan goes his Beast form, and Goten and Trunks follow their own path.
Regardless great what if again.
I believe ssj 3 can't be achieved by normal people and only dead people and fusions were able to use it
FeelFreee maybe it was saiyan scholar's vid but ya should chck his channel also i support his argument
He can use it freely now
J T i said achieving it
If this was true Goku shouldn't be able to tap in it while being alive, but he is so it's just hard
If this was true Goku shouldn't be able to tap in it while being alive, but he is so it's just hard
Wow , subscribed! I really like these type of what if styles that do a narrative scenario. Reminds me of Naruto explained's vids.
I just thought of what if transforming didn’t accelerate time limits.
The supreme Kamehameha was actually the name of the UI Mastered Kamehameha. But props to you for using that name haha
Salad: goes 2 and a half minutes over the time limit he set in the first WhiM but still cause at what if mini.
Me: Is this WHiM or not?
Also me: toriyama made only one SSJ3 grade (because there were to many grades on 1 and 2) so you can not reach grade 4 or mastered super saiyan 3 but still like the idea of it.
i love this because super sayin 3 is my favorite form so thank you so much for giving love to ssj3.
Super saiyan is cool but I just wish it had eyebrows but I think super saiyan 4 is way better.
And yes I know nobody mentioned super saiyan 4
It would be more like Full Power Super Saiyan 3 at first. Mastered means complete control over the form without having to do anything to keep the form like how Goku did with Super Saiyan. After that when they don't have to focus their Ki and just do it subconsciously then yes it is Mastered Super Saiyan 3 or Mastered Full Power Super Saiyan 3.
Gohan wouldn't need SSJ3 his Chou form is vastly stronger then SSJ3
@@alfieingrouille1528 I think he means his Ultimate Form.
@@brandonmcdaniel5447 yeh Chou, Super, or Ultimate Gohan are good alt names
NiaX he isn’t even called that🗿 it’s ultimate even in jap
Damn, chou? That's worse than people calling it mystic 🤣
It's Ultimate, all official material says so. Not alternate names are acceptable, fact.
KyleJoseph94 thank you ☠️
Ssj3 Vegeta looks like Raditz with no eyebrows
What if goku got with bulma pleas
One flaw on this video is that he forgot the quotation mark on the end of the " "Let's GOOOOOOOOO "
They can master ssj blue so why not
Writers don't care
But I hope
I wonder if you could do a What If mini about the Saiyans mixing SSJG with SSJ2 and SSJ3
@SethColby69 I do with agree the dude.Who knows, if toriyama wasnt lazy to draw the eyebrows we couldve gotten two versions of Ssj3 having different features & why not say so just for the fun.
1st Version - Ssj3 Grade 1/The current ssj3: Has no eyebrows
2nd Version Ssj3 Grade 2/Perfected Ssj3: Has eyebrows & blank eyes or has multiplier more than x4(I thought of that as an extra feature)
Trying to master SSJ3 is like trying to fill a balloon with air that has a hole in it.
5:45 supreme kamehameha is a good name, but i wouod have given it ultimate kamehameha or ultra kamehameha
It’s amazing how much one simple thing can change the entire story
Goku notices the ki leaking out and discovering super sayian god early
This should be a full 30+ minute episode.