Jean Hagen was brilliant throughout the movie. The way she portrayed Lina Lamont, she stole every scene she appeared in, imho ... Jean was a talented, talented lady.
Agree,she should have won the supporting actress Oscar that year.she was nominated but lost to Gloria Grahame and not sure why Grahame was nominated,never mind won for"Bad and the Beautiful"
The only losses that were worse were Grace Kelly over Judy Garland. Or Anna Magnani over Susan Hayward in I'll Cry Tomorrow. Kim Basinger over Gloria Stuart. Or the biggest surprise was Loretta Young over Rosalind Russell. Just saying
Am i the only one who REALLY wanted Donald O'Connor to keep singing when he starts? :D brilliant movies, brilliant scenes, brilliant actors.. Brilliant times :)
I don't even know why the conductor is asking, it's as if they are prepared to play any song and in any key she tells them, that's not how orchestras work :D
Jean Hagen is never given the attention she deserves. She is superb as Lina Lamont. Love when she screeches "Do ya think I'm stupid or something". At this everyone stares down at their shoes.
She actually dubs some of Debbie Reynolds talking bits in the movie (the parts where Debbie's character was overdubbing Jean Hagen's character, Lina's talking voice) because the director apparently couldn't stand Debbie's "midwestern twang". Source: look up the channel Lost Voices and there's a video called "Secrets of Hollywood voices" or something along that line. It's 1hr27mins long but it's worth the watch.
Actually, it was Betty Noyes who sang. Not Jean Hagen. She sang in "Would You" and "You Are My Lucky Star". But Jean Hagen's real speaking voice was used in the scenes where Debbie's character is dubbing for Jean's character, Lina Lamont.
@@craigrussell9894 Whatever that meant.... www.radiotimes.com/movies/2016-12-25/is-the-rain-milk-is-that-debbie-reynolds-voice-gene-kellys-widow-busts-the-myths-about-singin-in-the-rain/
Well Lina, in a way, was a victim. A product of the silent film Era. She knew that her career would be over if talking pictures became popular. When change comes; you either fight it, move with it or fade into the past. Lina chose to fight and therefore (in this era) she must be revealed and punished
The part where the guys pull the rope like they’re the happiest people in the world…SO FUNNY!!! I love that all three were just fed up with Lina and we’re enjoying every minute they had to destroy her 😂😂😂 This scene is hilarious and so chaotic!!
Donald O'Connor, brilliant as usual. He always brought the 34th flavor to anything he did. Love how all three collaborated in this scene. Donald should have kept singing 😅!
Whenever Mrs. Kuvasz thanks me for just about anything I respond with ...... "If I bring a little joy into your humdrum life, it makes me feel as though my hard work ain't been in vain for nothin'.
Jo Ann Greer was the real voice behind many actresses in big movie musicals. RUclips Rita Hayworth singing Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered or My Funny Valentine. That's Jo Ann Greer. She also was the voice for June Allyson, Kim Novak, Esther Williams and more. Not detracting from these ladies acting abilities but the singing credit belongs to Jo Ann Greer.
At my theatre group our recent shows have been: peter pan, high school musical, chess, godspell, gypsy and singin in the rain! Hsm and peter p were what the younger kids did lol
Not true. This is Debbie Reynolds voice. Jean Hagen DID dub Kathy's spoken line ('nothing can keep us apart, etc.') when Kathy is supposedly dubbing Lena's dialogue and the song 'Would You' when Kathy is singing for Lena was actually sung by Betty Noyles. The rest of the film Debbie did her own singing, but for the Dancing Cavalier section they wanted her to sound more mature.
I LOVE THIS SCENE WHEN EVERYONE FINE OUT THAT KATHIE DOING THE VOICE OF LINA . I ALWAYS WANT TO BE LIKE KATHIE SHE IS SO NICE AND KIND AND LINA IS A LITTLE BIT EVIL
I don't understand why they were so mean to her ALL THE TIME. She wasn't the brightest candle and she liked Don more than he liked him but still... she was alright. And Jean hagen portrayed her beautifully.
To me she was never "alright". The character was meant to not just be dumb, but also shallow and petty. Recall that when Don first introduces himself to her the flashback, she won't even speak to him until sees that R.F. the studio head likes him. Then there was her getting Cathy fired because of the ill-timed cake throw, and virtually blackmailing RF to destroy Cathy's career. Yes, a beautiful portrayal, but I don't regard the character as sympathetic.
He's not mean to her. She treats him like shit until he gets signed as a star and she doesn't care about him as a human being at all. He's polite to her even though she doesn't listen to him and disregards his boundaries, only being more forceful when she deliberate provokes him and does shitty things to people he cares about. She's dictatorial and unpleasant to everyone around her, she uses people, and she looks down on anyone she sees as beneath her, which is everyone. She's a great character, but she's not in any way meant to be a good person.
Yes, but the way Jean Hagan said it with that awful voice was priceless...if she'd said, "E" it wouldn't have been half as funny. Some scenes require artistic license. It was also Hagan's last line in the film, so it had to be memorable. "E" wouldn't have cut it, and changing the key to an A-flat would have ruined the song, so...it's what we do in movies.
I wonder what happened after this scene. The reason the studio executive went along with Lina's selfishness (despite him pretty much hating her by this point) was because she had a strong lawsuit against him (not sure what the law was like in this universe, but her lawyer confirmed that she had a very strong lawsuit if the executive guy's action messed up her reputation). Lina didnt' really care too much about money, as she had enough money and was primarily interested in the glory and the spotlight, but the executive guy cared greatly about his money. And now with her reputation in tatters, Lina would have sued the studio (and the executive).
I think what saved the studio was that Lina had already outed herself when she went onstage to give her speech. That's why Don let her go..."it's Lina's big night and she's entitled to do the TALKING." He knew the instant she opened her mouth the critics and media in the audience would wonder why her voice was so different. Merely doing another dubbed song wouldn't save her from the inevitable rumors and speculation. If she sued, they could argue in court that NOT pulling back the curtain would merely have delayed the inevitable, and trying to keep it secret would result in more negative publicity and subsequent career damage when it finally got out.
@@Regfife "Delaying the inevitable" is not a defense, esp when the person who actually pulled the curtain was the executive (or whoever, and she would have strong suit against them). That's like saying, "a terminally ill patient was inevitably going to die, so I killed him" -- not a good defense.
The basis of her lawsuit was that she controls her own publicity, not the studio, and if the studio put out press releases she considered damaging, she could sue. They had a publicity campaign planned to celebrate Kathy as Lena's voice, which is what she was able to stop because that counts as her personal publicity. It doesn't mean anything that happens to make her looks silly gives her grounds. This whole thing isn't a press statement and Lena really does it to herself. She probably wouldn't have grounds to sue, and even if she did, it's not worth it to her. Like you said, the character wanted the glory and to keep her image, not money. Suing was a threat to get what she wanted. Now it doesn't matter because her image is already ruined.
2:03 I read that it was actually Jean Hagan doing the actual singing right there. You can notice Debbie behind the curtain "mouthing" the lines, quite obviously pretending to be (to you, the viewer, that is) to be the one singing.
No, this is Debbie Reynolds voice. They are both mouthing to playback, because that's how they do full musical numbers in movies, but it's Reynolds' voice. Jean Hagen DID dub Kathy's spoken line ('nothing can keep us apart, etc.') when Kathy is supposedly dubbing Lena's dialogue and the song 'Would You' was actually sung by Betty Noyles. The rest of the film Debbie did her own singing, but for that song they wanted a more mature voice.
Singin in The Rain Is One Of My Favorite Old Movie Musicals So Is Cover Girl And Gypsy Bye Bye Birdie AnnieAnnie Get Your Gun The Sound Of Music Mary Poppins Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Oliver West Side Story Anything Goes The King And I White Christmas Holiday Inn Top Hat Dancing Lady Follow The Fleet Flying Down To Rio The Barkley Of Broadway Shall We Dance Words And Music The Wizard Of Oz My Fair Lady The Music Man You Were Never Lovelier You'll Never Get Rich Guys And Dolls Brigadoon Good News Anchor Aweigh Take Me Out To The Ball Game Pal Joey A Funny Thing Happen On The Way To Forum Summer Stock The Pirate Gigi American Paris Three Little Words The Band Wagon Easter Parade Oklahoma Call Me Madam Theres No Business Like Show Business Gentlemen Prefer Blondes Hello Dolly Showboat Carousel South Pasific Cabaret Zeigfeld Follies Yankee Doodle Dandy Lets Dance Kiss Me Kate The Flower Drum Song The Phantom Of The Opera
I was very sad when Debbie Reynolds passed away in 2016. I was surprised and shocked when Kathy told Don (played by Gene Kelly) that she never wants to see him again when she was being told to dub Lina's voice by singing "Singin' in the Rain" behind the curtain. It really shattered Don's heart and my heart when she was saying that at him.
It's a risk he took. He came with the idea. There was no time to signal to Kathy that this was a plan to expose Lina. He may have a split second of doubt that his plan is going to work, but by the time they start pulling the curtain, he knows it will be all right in the end, as long as he acts fast. I don't think there was any time at all for heartbreak. It all happens so quickly.
In 1952 America was 89% white so that's where all the talent and resourceful creativity was coming from. Today America is 40% third world people so it will be some time until white people can makes movies like this again.
The part when they all cheerfully pull the rope gets me every time!
The boss starts singing we all start singing, the boss pulls the rope we all pull the rope lol
Jean Hagen was brilliant throughout the movie. The way she portrayed Lina Lamont, she stole every scene she appeared in, imho ... Jean was a talented, talented lady.
+Dave Matheson She got robbed of the Oscar, too!!
Agree,she should have won the supporting actress Oscar that year.she was nominated but lost to Gloria Grahame and not sure why Grahame was nominated,never mind won for"Bad and the Beautiful"
@@metrogoldwyn She was robbed. Plain and simple
The only losses that were worse were Grace Kelly over Judy Garland.
Or Anna Magnani over Susan Hayward in I'll Cry Tomorrow.
Kim Basinger over Gloria Stuart.
Or the biggest surprise was Loretta Young over Rosalind Russell.
Just saying
She ain't people! Superb!
Am i the only one who REALLY wanted Donald O'Connor to keep singing when he starts? :D brilliant movies, brilliant scenes, brilliant actors.. Brilliant times :)
Same!!
Absolutely 😊
I love Gene Kelly's face at 2:27 like he's going to really enjoy what he's about to do lol
A-flat, then the band proceeds to do it in...
...you guessed it. E-flat
It's even more confusing when this particular clip is sped up to E.
Easy mistake to make
@Liam Berg (STUDENT) most musicians (especially one with perfect pitch like myself) can tell what key a song is in by playing it or listening to it
I don't even know why the conductor is asking, it's as if they are prepared to play any song and in any key she tells them, that's not how orchestras work :D
Jean Hagen is never given the attention she deserves. She is superb as Lina Lamont. Love when she screeches "Do ya think I'm stupid or something". At this everyone stares down at their shoes.
She actually dubs some of Debbie Reynolds talking bits in the movie (the parts where Debbie's character was overdubbing Jean Hagen's character, Lina's talking voice) because the director apparently couldn't stand Debbie's "midwestern twang". Source: look up the channel Lost Voices and there's a video called "Secrets of Hollywood voices" or something along that line. It's 1hr27mins long but it's worth the watch.
But the actress' real voice was very deep and beautiful - she dubbed for Debbie Reynolds in the scene where Debbie was supposedly dubbing for her!! :)
ikr!! So ironic haha
Nae,nae and thrice nae,you're obviously full of nonsense.. Your statement is totally ABSURD.. Just like your hair..Eeyore...hee has..donkey
Actually, it was Betty Noyes who sang. Not Jean Hagen. She sang in "Would You" and "You Are My Lucky Star". But Jean Hagen's real speaking voice was used in the scenes where Debbie's character is dubbing for Jean's character, Lina Lamont.
@@craigrussell9894 You're wrong and full of nonsense! Your comment is totally ABSURD!
@@craigrussell9894 Whatever that meant.... www.radiotimes.com/movies/2016-12-25/is-the-rain-milk-is-that-debbie-reynolds-voice-gene-kellys-widow-busts-the-myths-about-singin-in-the-rain/
She deserved the Oscar!!! I love Lina Lamont!!!
Gene and Debbie should’ve been as well
When Lina said, “I’m gonna make the speech,” her tone is like Darla Dimple’s from Cats Don’t Dance.
I'm playing Lina right now and now when I watch this I'm like "oh my gosh they're so mean" because I'm in the mindset of her character😂
As am I!! Im with you on that haha
Well Lina, in a way, was a victim. A product of the silent film Era. She knew that her career would be over if talking pictures became popular. When change comes; you either fight it, move with it or fade into the past. Lina chose to fight and therefore (in this era) she must be revealed and punished
For me, this movie never gets old.
The part where the guys pull the rope like they’re the happiest people in the world…SO FUNNY!!! I love that all three were just fed up with Lina and we’re enjoying every minute they had to destroy her 😂😂😂 This scene is hilarious and so chaotic!!
Donald O'Connor, brilliant as usual. He always brought the 34th flavor to anything he did. Love how all three collaborated in this scene. Donald should have kept singing 😅!
When they start pulling the cord, I'm literally screaming NO!!😁
I was screaming, "Yes!"
Everybody did an OUTSTANDING job in this film!!! I could watch it over and over again and laugh every time haha
"our first musi..cal picture togither" I love this actress
Lina was gorgeous! I love her clothes and that actress is fantastic!
She really was an incredible actress! Even her scenes make me laugh!
Oh my gosh!! 😂😂😂😂 I love it when Donald O Connor comes on!! He honestly’s really good and wanted him to keep singing
...this was a common occurrence in the early talkies...many silent stars had horrendous voices and quickly lost their stardom
I love this scene! :), also. "If we can bring a little joy into your humdrum lives"!
That just says it all.
Kim Kardashian’s comments about her private island vacation from Covid brought me here.
Donald O'Connor was such a great talent.
He sure was, he more than deserved that Golden Globe.
Singin in the rain jean Hagen
Jean Hagen as Lina Lamont is my favorite part of this entire movie!
Jean Hagen did a fantastic job. What a pity she died so young. R. I. P. Ms. Hagen.
This scene is a classic
I love this song
ugh I wish they would have let Donald sing longer or made a full version ! ❤️❤️
He already sang "Make 'Em Laugh". Wasn't that enough?
@@sha11235 Just liked the song, it’s not that deep.
@@sha11235 No.
Whenever Mrs. Kuvasz thanks me for just about anything I respond with ......
"If I bring a little joy into your humdrum life, it makes me feel as though my hard work ain't been in vain for nothin'.
(Laughs) the audience's reaction to Lina mirrored my reaction to Sailor Moon's voice.
love this film .. true hollywood
The best movie ever 😍
Jo Ann Greer was the real voice behind many actresses in big movie musicals. RUclips Rita Hayworth singing Bewitched Bothered and Bewildered or My Funny Valentine. That's Jo Ann Greer. She also was the voice for June Allyson, Kim Novak, Esther Williams and more. Not detracting from these ladies acting abilities but the singing credit belongs to Jo Ann Greer.
I love it when cosmo starts singing
One of my fav with Some Like It Hot.
LOL Wonder what happened to Lina after she fled the stage? Career over, breakdown, voiceover artist in cartoons?
The first choice, probably, along with the second choice.
I laughed hard in the theater when i saw this.
I cant wait until my school preforms, its my dream to play Lina. Im so lucky I get to do this song!
Bless you all 💞
At my theatre group our recent shows have been: peter pan, high school musical, chess, godspell, gypsy and singin in the rain! Hsm and peter p were what the younger kids did lol
The way she says musical tho
I seen the play of this at my school, and may I just say, it was amazing.
BRILLIANT!
I so love this bit, watching the movie right now and just couldn't wait for this bit ;-)
This is actually her voice, Debbie was only miming, a pleasant surprise
Not true. This is Debbie Reynolds voice. Jean Hagen DID dub Kathy's spoken line ('nothing can keep us apart, etc.') when Kathy is supposedly dubbing Lena's dialogue and the song 'Would You' when Kathy is singing for Lena was actually sung by Betty Noyles. The rest of the film Debbie did her own singing, but for the Dancing Cavalier section they wanted her to sound more mature.
Oh cosmo, you savage lovable bro
Jean was spectacular in the film.
god i love this movie
that audience is voiceist
moja ulubiona scena Deszczowej Piosenki …:))))
I LOVE THIS SCENE WHEN EVERYONE FINE OUT THAT KATHIE DOING THE VOICE OF LINA . I ALWAYS WANT TO BE LIKE KATHIE SHE IS SO NICE AND KIND AND LINA IS A LITTLE BIT EVIL
这也太好听了吧！！！
Lina reminds me of Jennifer Tilly
I don't understand why they were so mean to her ALL THE TIME. She wasn't the brightest candle and she liked Don more than he liked him but still... she was alright. And Jean hagen portrayed her beautifully.
To me she was never "alright". The character was meant to not just be dumb, but also shallow and petty. Recall that when Don first introduces himself to her the flashback, she won't even speak to him until sees that R.F. the studio head likes him. Then there was her getting Cathy fired because of the ill-timed cake throw, and virtually blackmailing RF to destroy Cathy's career. Yes, a beautiful portrayal, but I don't regard the character as sympathetic.
He's not mean to her. She treats him like shit until he gets signed as a star and she doesn't care about him as a human being at all. He's polite to her even though she doesn't listen to him and disregards his boundaries, only being more forceful when she deliberate provokes him and does shitty things to people he cares about. She's dictatorial and unpleasant to everyone around her, she uses people, and she looks down on anyone she sees as beneath her, which is everyone.
She's a great character, but she's not in any way meant to be a good person.
Lina's lipsync is so tight though.
Better than Debbie Reynolds!
heu non je voulais dire j'adore cette musique
the song isn't even in A flat and that's what annoys me the most about this scene
Yes, but the way Jean Hagan said it with that awful voice was priceless...if she'd said, "E" it wouldn't have been half as funny. Some scenes require artistic license. It was also Hagan's last line in the film, so it had to be memorable. "E" wouldn't have cut it, and changing the key to an A-flat would have ruined the song, so...it's what we do in movies.
true, I am just a very pedantic man who happens to be pitch perfect too; also the key isn't C, it's E flat (E in this video due to PAL speed-up)
dude I am pedantic about literally everything it's just who I am
RetroGuy76, it's a popular myth, but it's Debbie who sings in that scene, not Jean.
youjustpreviewed ... get over it
I wonder what happened after this scene. The reason the studio executive went along with Lina's selfishness (despite him pretty much hating her by this point) was because she had a strong lawsuit against him (not sure what the law was like in this universe, but her lawyer confirmed that she had a very strong lawsuit if the executive guy's action messed up her reputation). Lina didnt' really care too much about money, as she had enough money and was primarily interested in the glory and the spotlight, but the executive guy cared greatly about his money. And now with her reputation in tatters, Lina would have sued the studio (and the executive).
I think they showed they weren't going to be bullied by her vagina and her lawyer's dick.
I think what saved the studio was that Lina had already outed herself when she went onstage to give her speech. That's why Don let her go..."it's Lina's big night and she's entitled to do the TALKING." He knew the instant she opened her mouth the critics and media in the audience would wonder why her voice was so different. Merely doing another dubbed song wouldn't save her from the inevitable rumors and speculation. If she sued, they could argue in court that NOT pulling back the curtain would merely have delayed the inevitable, and trying to keep it secret would result in more negative publicity and subsequent career damage when it finally got out.
@@Regfife "Delaying the inevitable" is not a defense, esp when the person who actually pulled the curtain was the executive (or whoever, and she would have strong suit against them). That's like saying, "a terminally ill patient was inevitably going to die, so I killed him" -- not a good defense.
The basis of her lawsuit was that she controls her own publicity, not the studio, and if the studio put out press releases she considered damaging, she could sue. They had a publicity campaign planned to celebrate Kathy as Lena's voice, which is what she was able to stop because that counts as her personal publicity. It doesn't mean anything that happens to make her looks silly gives her grounds. This whole thing isn't a press statement and Lena really does it to herself. She probably wouldn't have grounds to sue, and even if she did, it's not worth it to her. Like you said, the character wanted the glory and to keep her image, not money. Suing was a threat to get what she wanted. Now it doesn't matter because her image is already ruined.
Harley Quinn anyone?
Big lesson don’t big up yourself and try to take anyone’s glory
2:03 I read that it was actually Jean Hagan doing the actual singing right there. You can notice Debbie behind the curtain "mouthing" the lines, quite obviously pretending to be (to you, the viewer, that is) to be the one singing.
No, this is Debbie Reynolds voice. They are both mouthing to playback, because that's how they do full musical numbers in movies, but it's Reynolds' voice. Jean Hagen DID dub Kathy's spoken line ('nothing can keep us apart, etc.') when Kathy is supposedly dubbing Lena's dialogue and the song 'Would You' was actually sung by Betty Noyles. The rest of the film Debbie did her own singing, but for that song they wanted a more mature voice.
And On The Town 1949
Did you have to cut off Gene Kelly's telling the audience members to stop Kathy from running away?
Omg lol
I got here because of BTS... And I'm glad I did 👏
and Royal Wedding 1951
The singing was actually done by Jean not Debbie Reynolds.
Sama jestem blądynką 63 lata, ale ta przebija wszystko.
Thank you--it isn't A flat, it's E flat!
It's in E major here though...wonder how it got transposed!
Roberta
Os traumas do cinema mudo ..Al Jolson mudou essa história protagonizando The Jolson Story
Singin in The Rain Is One Of My Favorite Old Movie Musicals So Is Cover Girl And Gypsy Bye Bye Birdie AnnieAnnie Get Your Gun The Sound Of Music Mary Poppins Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Oliver West Side Story Anything Goes The King And I White Christmas Holiday Inn Top Hat Dancing Lady Follow The Fleet Flying Down To Rio The Barkley Of Broadway Shall We Dance Words And Music The Wizard Of Oz My Fair Lady The Music Man You Were Never Lovelier You'll Never Get Rich Guys And Dolls Brigadoon Good News Anchor Aweigh Take Me Out To The Ball Game Pal Joey A Funny Thing Happen On The Way To Forum Summer Stock The Pirate Gigi American Paris Three Little Words The Band Wagon Easter Parade Oklahoma Call Me Madam Theres No Business Like Show Business Gentlemen Prefer Blondes Hello Dolly Showboat Carousel South Pasific Cabaret Zeigfeld Follies Yankee Doodle Dandy Lets Dance Kiss Me Kate The Flower Drum Song The Phantom Of The Opera
That key was not in A-flat -_-
The song was in E-major
#Whitepplbefrontin
Not even in the whitest film do they get it right
Podría ser en ESPAÑOL POR FAVOR.... !!!
j'are cette musique
Lina get owend
I was very sad when Debbie Reynolds passed away in 2016. I was surprised and shocked when Kathy told Don (played by Gene Kelly) that she never wants to see him again when she was being told to dub Lina's voice by singing "Singin' in the Rain" behind the curtain. It really shattered Don's heart and my heart when she was saying that at him.
It's a risk he took. He came with the idea. There was no time to signal to Kathy that this was a plan to expose Lina. He may have a split second of doubt that his plan is going to work, but by the time they start pulling the curtain, he knows it will be all right in the end, as long as he acts fast. I don't think there was any time at all for heartbreak. It all happens so quickly.
She learnt all the song to do the lip sync but she cant remember the name of the song??
She didn't know what song Kathie (Debbie Reynolds) was prepared to sing.
Lina. Lamont-Kardashian
0:00 shut up Betty Boop
Nasty
what?
What do you mean?
In 1952 America was 89% white so that's where all the talent and resourceful creativity was coming from. Today America is 40% third world people so it will be some time until white people can makes movies like this again.