The War Thunder Rat Tank Tier List
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In this video I rank a variety of rats in War Thunder in what I call The War Thunder Rat Vehicle Tier List including but not limited to the M22, r3 t20, 47/33 L40, pvlvv fm/42, l3/33, ab 41, amr.35 zt3, Sd.KFZ.221 and the Sd.KFZ.222. This took me a decent amount of time so I'd really appreciate If you'd like and sub :) Also in case gaijin is watching, please let me into the partner program :skull:
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@MrBucket9158 fun fact, AB 41 wasn't originally a reserve.
It was a research tank. You had to research that garbage
@@MrBucket9158 also are you also wondering what Crack Gaijin was on when they added the M2A2?
Everyone says .50 are OP.
I have that thing spaded and it's dogturds
its only purpose is to harass anybody playing white tanks, and yes im salty from a match yesterday@@Iamwtfboi
@@Jerry-cg9ni white tanks?
Wiesel 1a2 with a tow2b can hide in the smallest ditch and safely fire from a 3rd person
Noted also thanks for watching!
i have one even two more@@MrBucket9158 LET ME INTODUCE YOU TOOOOO THE FIAT 6614, AUBL/74 and (3rd bonus) R3 T106 not 20mm but two 106 recoilles gun
Is it only me or does your voice sound like your head is in a Bucket?
the 1a2? i don't really think it is that good it at a BR where it get out perform by most atgm carrier/IFV even if it is small thermal sight and the new missile wire expose you after a single shot, on the other damn hand the 1a4 variant with 20mm is such a lil shit to fight with how small and bush up it can be at a BR where thermal is not wide spread one of those in your flank can tore through half a team of MBT
@@kitsubrown as I already said it works if you can find yourself a crater or a small pit where you can fully cover yourself. Your size in such situation isn't counseling or hiding you in any way, it is nothing but a fact that gives you more wide selection of cover. If you in such ditch/pit/crater you can 100% safely fire your TOW2B and aim with a 3rd person view without ever exposing yourself.
You forgot about the R3 with 2 Recoiless rifles, this ones is truly one of the bigger puching rats out there.
I wasn’t willing to grind that hard lol, it will be In part 2
@@MrBucket9158I need more R3😈
I see you are a man of culture as well🙏
@@MrBucket9158 I still use the R3 T106 FA at BR 10.0+, it's earned a permanent spot in my lineup and can easily kill any tank in the game.
@@MrBucket9158 its worth it
Asu57 deserves its crown
I’ heck it out
Bro Asu57 s are absolutely the best rat for top tier. It is so easy to get god mode in it because of how small it is.
That’s what I was thinking
And the ZIS-30!
@@lilhombrae3532shit. I was trying to get god mode eith derp guns. I should try that.
I noticed a distinct lack of rats. ASU 57, M56, M50, the Wiesel trio, the AS 42 duo, AB 43, R3 T106, BT series, AUBL, and the biggest rat in the game next to the M22 the M18
I’m sorry you think that
If you're gonna call the AUBL a rat, then at least include the FIAT 6614. I'll regularly run out of ammo in that thing before I die. Little big for my definition of Raticts tho
@@camdenarnett193 The Fiat should go without saying since its basically the same thing as the T106 just with one less gun. I also didnt mention the Pumas because those should also go without saying. Uptiering rat vehicles is pretty common and the Puma is not very big compared to most things people usually uptier it against. It doesnt have to be absolutely tiny to be a rat, just smaller than most. The playstyle is the most important thing. The Ru 251 can be a rat but its best played more like a discount Leo 1. All i was saying is, there was only a single vehicle in that list that wasnt rank I. And now that im thinking about it, special mention to the AML's just because theyre French and rank IV France is actually kinda scary
@@mikovee2291 I abuse AMLs extensively.
A lot of top tier vehicles can be ratty because of how maneuverable they are *cough* T 92 *cough*
Puma...
The AML-90 is a higher tier rat, which is a rare commodity to have and extremely fun to use to flank slow enemies because of it's great gun
I just saw Phly's video about it. Also I'm glad you watched till the end of the video!
Eland 90 is literally AML90 but in the British tech tree and is therefore better.
The israeli AML-90 is the gem of their rank 4, it is the peak of the israeli tech tree. (british tech tree sucks)
@@MikhailTukachevsky Oh yeah I forgot to mention that the AML-90 also owns the title of a rat by breeding like one and so it's in multiple tech trees
Let's don't forget that the AML's engine is quiet as fuck
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I had no doubt some was going to comment that
@@Danknic12340:17 especially this part.
It just gives off a martincitopants vibe...
Half the music mart uses which isn’t a bad thing
Nah I needed a war thunder marticopants
excelent edditing on this video my dude, I can feel the influence from martincitopants and that is not a bad thing at all, excited to see more from ya
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loving to see Martin's brother doing WT tier lists :)
Lol
VERY surprised no one's said the WW2 German Puma (Sdkfz 234/2)
Great speed, great turn rate
Decent survivability for an armored car
Decent 50mm gun and raload rate for 3.3 (formerly 2.7 within my memory)
It's actually fun to use while zooming through the map at 56 MPH
I was surprised too
Yeah
234/4 with the 75mm is retarded and usefull up to top tiers
You need to try the puma with the 20 mil autocannon at 2.0 it's even more of a menace
@@perfectcontent092.7 br… those were the days.
ZSU-57-2 is definitely deserving of a spot here even though its 7.0 and not super fast (50kmh) it still rips most tanks apart and is absolutely a pain in the ass to kill without big HE rounds
ZSU-57-2 is too big to be a rat tho
I'd like to point out that the L3 has a very distinct advantage on maps with points, it can get to some very hard to see and reach places and contest or capture a point. Such places include concrete pipes, buildings, and up stairs above where literally _everyone else_ cannot get to or see it. I say it deserves C or B tier if we take into account such things.
Not really rat sized but exceedingly fun to play in a similar strategy is the Breda. It has a chonky cannon and high speed as well as surprisingly good gun handling at high speeds.
I'll be sure to check it out! Also thanks for watching till the end of the video :)
@@MrBucket9158headbutt strat with the Breda is pretty fun, so many tigers have died with the gun lodged in their side
Breda is effectively the Italian M-18. (Besides the Italian M-18). Not as much concealment as a rat, but every bit as annoying
@Batzero8515 they are the new kings of the 6.3 to 6.7 br now. I use the fiat to bully heavy tanks!! I'm so fast that their turret traverse can't keep up, 106 mm heat will pen everything, and has more than enough explosive filler to finish them off.
you forgot the maus
Yeah the muas is 105% a rat tank
Yeah it’s LITTERLY in the name cmon bucket
I used to rat with the M22 at 5.3 back when its AP could pen the back of panthers and Tigers and would use the tactical headbutt method to get right up on a tigers rear and shoot their engine until they ran out of FPE, truly those were the days of peak ratting with that thing
It's still holds the real king position, disabling most tanks and a menace to every light ✨️ tank in game ay 6.0 going up killed pumas at 9.7 and u earn god mode whenever you kill ur enemy
The martincitoants style of editing that is making waves on yt now is amazing, it finally feel like a higher grade of video quality is becoming the norm. Keep up the great work man
Personal Rat List/Suggestions:
Sdkfz 234/1: A somewhat older vehicle from the Obj 279 event. Equipped with same 20mm turret as found on the 222, however on the chassis of a Puma at the same BR (formerly 1.7), resulting in incredibly dubious moments.
Ikv 103 (Aka: *The Bean*): No armor (you can overpressure yourself on a wall) and very poor muzzle velocity. HOWEVER, at 4.0 it comes equipped with 400mm pen HEAT-FS and a whopping -16 degrees of gun depression, allowing you to abuse hills and the poor velocity allows you lob HEAT-FS over cover. Viable all the way until ERA starts regularly appearing at 8.0.
M8A1: M8 Scott as seen by its tech tree variant. However while the TT has a 75mm Howie that can be fairly poo, the M8A1 comes equipped with a 75mm M3 and M61 shot providing you equal penetration to a sherman. This vehicle becomes quite slimey around 5.7 where it works great at flank and spanks.
Wiesel 1A2: With one of the most fitting names for a vehicle I've ever seen, this version comes equipped with a TOW launcher that works great at hull down, hide-and-seek, and the headbutt tactic.
ZiS-30: A literal tractor with a 57mm ZiS-2 AT gun taped on top offering 145mm of pen at 2.7. While the post-pen damage on the 57 leaves a bit to be desired, its size and pen allows it to punch way above its weight class as it snakes around, ambushing opponents. Just be wary of arty and CAS cucks.
Eland 90: Personal favorite due to sheer cuteness. It rains superior to the bog standard AML in the fact that is has a slightly more powerful engine, a .30 M1919 instead of the MAC, and the fact its not Fr*nch.
Type 87 RCV: While not as potent as it formerly was at 7.3 it can still be a menace, boasting a speed comparable to the R3 in a smaller package. Equipped with a 25mm KBA with 92mm pen darts it can use its speed to easily zip around and destroy/annoy anything it comes across.
M8 Greyhound: Not the smallest in size but comes equipped with a .50 cal at reserve tier making it a very potent threat. Can (and historically has) killed a King Tiger. Wierdly avaible in tech tree for China but event only for US. Thanks Gaijobama.
Breda 501 "Mussolini Bus": Another Italian silly factory. The 90mm gun of the Semovente 90/53 on a wheeled chassis. While not the smallest, the stock shell has a whopping 520g of TNT making it a one-shot machine. Very exposed crew.
FIAT 6614/R3 T106: Two more Italian Wheely boys with top-mounted recoiless rifles. The top mounting of the rifles allows them to shoot while completely behind cover and near invisible to enemies. This combined with their speed and small size allows them very dumb early game positions that will send many back to the hangar.
Sdkfz 234/4: Puma with a PaK 40. Nuff said.
USH: A smaller, automatic version of T106. Personally, I still prefer the T106. The USH is very unstable and not as quick, and the auto fire must be kept in check or else you will run out of ammo very quick (and the cap point reload is very slow). It also only has 2 crew members coupled with its size makes it much less survivable than the R3. Just get the Raketenautomat.
M53 Praga: PANTERI, PANTERI. VI STE HRABI MOMCI. NAJHRABRIJI NASI, SRPSKI DOBROVOLJCI
Honorable mentions: ZSU-57-2, low-tier thump-thump SPAA trucks, Itpsv-90, PT-76-57, AS-42, AUBL HVG, M24, Type 60 SPRG, Alecto, SARC cars, T-50, ASU-57, BTR-80, T18E2, HSTV-L, M50, M56, LAV-AD, T114, EBR (1954).
Thank you for your time.
Comment edit: It is debated that the vehicle an M8 Greyhound killed from the rear was a King Tiger. The most likely theory is that it destroyed several Maus tanks, a P1000 Ratte, the Schwere Gustav, 4 Hyperborean Hanebus, and a T-72B3. It would later go on to singlehandedly decimate Steiner’s counterattack. It was later destroyed by a Bob Semple during the 2nd Finno-Korean Hyperwar.
I like it!
Forgot the tetrach
The grey hound never destroyed a king tiger. It was likely to just be a panzer 4 that is destroyed
@@bro3217 Oh, Im so sorry. Let me edit that for you
@@CheezeSpartanthe m8 also sunk a french barracuda class submarine in a friendly fire incident
ELC bis deserves a room, absolute RAT. You land on shot on it : the transmission and engine eats EVERYTHING unless it's chemical round. In the meantime, its fast gun with 450mm of pen just obliterates anything it comes in contact with.
Please Gaijin uptier this tank.
Good video my dude. Keep them coming and you will become big. And the bt5/7 are also s tier rats
Boy I sure hope, also I'm glad you liked it!
Yeah cause they have a surprisingly fast reload of base 3.7 and upgraded with crew will ender the realm of 2 second reload thats like auto loader speed
This is the single most underrated video i have ever seen in the war thunder community, keep up the work
I’m glad you like it. Part 2 is already in the works
The USH is a legendary rat. Fast and armed with two automatic recoilless rifles.
I’ll be sure to check it out!
Probably the most hated vehicle in War Thunder
@@russman3787 I'm not sure if it's the USH or the Turm III (or VFW lol) but it's sure up there. One of those things that makes you feel like a bully to play. It has fully earned it's nickname, the swedish cancer car
Those aren't recoilless rifles, those are rocket launchers.
ok this feels like martincitopants who plays warthunder and I love it.
You really took the tips mart gave to make funny vids.
The first weasel in the german tech tree (i cant remember the numbers) plays like a slower but smaller r3 t20.
Both Wiesel are amazingly ratty in their own ways
Just gonna blindly guess it's called wiesal 1a4?
Also it gets the earliest gen 3 thermals (at the time of this comment)
Your editing style seems inspired by the frog man himself, martin, quite a lot
I love it :D
I love the Martincitopants style of tierlist! :)
I can feel Martincitopants stype flowing though me while watching this video.
Also, Ab 41 and AB 43 are OP, skill issue😂.
Good vid
The swedish U-SH 405. Basically R3 with semi automatic rockets
Great video but the audio could use a lil bit of work cause i couldn't hear what you were saying at times
Cheers!
Noted, also glad you enjoyed it!
The U-SH 405 is disgusting
Absolutely foul
Bain of every WT player's existence
The only place it belongs is under a FAB-5000
Anyone who plays the U-SH should uninstall the game and think about what they've done with their lives
But yeah, pretty god-tier rat all things considered
@@camdenarnett193 Then you would be absolutely overjoyed to hear that I play the USH extensively.
Gotta love me some type 60 SPRG, probally best rat, poor armour, anti tank grenade and HESH and its real tiny, bout as small as an l33, just slightly bigger, oh yeah, it has two of those guns for ultimate bait and goes 60ish KPH
The Fm/42 doesnt have massive bulletdrop, just a massive zoom in the scope.
Well, while this is most certainly a large thing, unless Gaijin removes it's speed, im going to add the early Hungarian tanks for one reason.
*They can reverse at the same speed they go forward.*
This is especially annoying with the Turan 3, as thats a vehicle at BR 3.7, with a gun that can kill a KV-1 from the front.
Then theres the event vehicle BT7A.
Its a BT7... with a 75mm gun on it.
AB43 is a high-tier rat too... the cannon in the turret makes up for all the shortcomings of the AB41. also the AB-42 varients are fun to play with too.
The Alecto is my favourite rat tank. It's heat can ruin tanks much higher in br than itself, and it is pretty quick
Got it, I'm going to use it with my matilda hedgehog to grind the object 292 with them.
ASU-57 is incredibly good due to it's high agility, easy concealability and gun that can face all but the strongest vehicles, so it's often used to get god mode at top tier.
Chi-Ha LG.
Literally a cruiser gun plopped on top of a tank chassis.
No armor for the gun either.
Absolute meme machine.
Tho admittedly its not small, it cant be denied for its ability to do cross map one shot kills.
Also the SUB I-II which is just a Japanese R20, not as fast but still speedy, also amphibious, and better 20mm (very fast fire rate), same as the Wiesel. Honestly has no place at 5.3
Hey, professional rat enjoyer here. Other notable rats are the Puma, R3 T106 FA, ASU-57, BT-42, AMX/AML-90, Wiesel 1A4/1A2, ELC BIS, E.B.R. (any variant), AS-42/AS-42|47, BT-7, Any of the British SARCs (and maybe even the Daimler MK II or AEC AA if they're used correctly)(Really any small wheeled vehicle can be given rat status with enough reflexes and keyboard slaving). I hate the U-SH 405 with every fiber of my being, but must admit it is a extremely good (and pretty cancerous) high-tier rat.
Rat tactics (Racticts) can also be employed to some extent with the American M-56 and M-50, but are a little more difficult. The Russian milk trucks are also like this. Good in the right circumstances, but god forbid your enemy has a machine gun or has their front facing you.
You were also using your L3/33 wrong. There wasn't nearly enough bushes on that thing
Lol, I’ll look into those!
I was going to bush it up but then I’d have to bush them all up
And if you're gonna come after my cottage cheese, you better be in for one hell of a firefight. That stuff's getting defended to the last man
@@MrBucket9158 Fair. Bushes are good in some situations, but in others (Like when you're trying to hide your L3/33 inside of a building to block the enemy from capping a point), bushes might actually make you more obvious. I usually decorate my Rats in bright colors and racing stripes. If you want any content for a future video, I can gladly get you some (on account of my unreasonable amount of rats).
i love the M22 locust. i bring it to all my linups, no matter BR. i got the "street brawler" achievment (destroy 2 player vehicles within 30 seconds from a distance of 10 meters or less) in it in a 5.3 game. it was a VK panther and a t34 85. best feeling in the game.
The new Hungarian armored car
Ur editing style is fantastic! 🤣
I'm glad you like it man!
@@MrBucket9158 be honest man did you get it from martincitopants
You should try the daimler mkII in the british lineup, great fun to flank with at higher brs!
I'll check it out!
M18 Hellcat definitely. I only snipe and sit about 1k out, but the antics are hilarious because I yeet it over bumps and hills until i get into my spider hole. Love it so much that I run it with my M41A1 over the M56. Id give it at least give it a A. You can get into a good far spot early game and scout for a while occasionally picking off other tanks so your hole isnt compromised. Oh, and it can be just like a higher pen M22 with a 76mm. They can make a R3 run in fear. Its great at being a trap door spider, but it can definitely be a great A in this department
Ikv72 is a strong rat option too. Small. Hard to spot. Packs a punch(dont know the speed but its def not slow)
ikv 103 is just a better 72 since it fires 400mm pen HEATFS
@@Taboose7665 well yes but its higher br so there will be less inexperienced people meaning you are going to get spotted. But yes the round is really ratty.
I think it's between 50-72KPH for it.
Funnily enough, out of all the rat tanks here, the only one I can’t ever be mad at is L3-33. It’s so adorably underpowered that when it kills Me I can’t help but congratulate it. And playing as one. It’s satisfying to actually get kills with it.
T18 Boarhound. Not a lot of people have it but it's got a stabilized 57, it's decently fast, and has ridiculously troll armor since volumetric
Are we gonna talk about the absurd quality, use of memes, humor in this video for a 1.6K sub channel. You gained another one without a doubt but heck this better blow up
Thanks man!
Maybe consider joining th discord
Man if you do a part 2 you need to play the pbil m/40. A fast Swedish event vehicle at like 1.7. 40 mm of pen in a auto cannon that has 36 rounds and a 1 second reload.
Fiat 6614 makes an excellent rat when you realize the front can deflect 50 cal shots and the gun is so high up you can have it poking out without worrying about getting shot, not to mention the 5 crewman which makes it almost impossible to oneshot without over pressure
I assume the Puma will be in part 2. It do be ratty.
Also what about the 150mm HE slingers from the first rank of many tech trees?
Love the way you edit your videos! My favorite rat by far is amx13 fl10. Like it's small, it's nible, and it's gun can punch through sides of basically any vehicle in the game
I think the ASU-57 and M18 are decent rat tanks I’m not sure if the M18 counts as a rat tank but it feels like one to play
Noted
expecialy if you bush the asu
I knew I recognized this style of video! I saw the decal on that M22, and I was certain. Martin’s style is amazing for War Thunder, I look forward to seeing if you make any more videos for other types of vehicles.
He forgot rhe damn m18
fun fact - if you sit on a point with the ab41 you can fire endlessly as the point reloads your gun before it runs out of ammo. amazing for defending points at reserve
Inspired by Martincitopants?
Sort of. I have been influenced by a lot of people but people only notice and compare me to Mart.
I cant drown my demons they know how to swim
Ah yes, Mr. Bucket timeless tradition of blocking your allies retreat once they are under fire.
War Thunder martincitopants isnt real, he cant hurt you.
War Thunder martincitopants:
big thing about the 221 and 222 is that if you fully accelerate its suprisingly quiet with only occassional sputters
American war thunder martincitopants isn’t real, he can’t hurt you
American war thunder martincitopants:
Rat: *exist
Daebom: I can milk you
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my rat nomination is the M56 scorpion, it is my absolute favorite vehicle in the game. having a yeet cannon on top of a tiny chassis just makes me smile every single time a king tiger goes kablooey
Celere Sahariano is my favorite rat tank. I've got over 500 battles in it, making it my most-played tank. It has armor that bounces too many shots and an amazing shell that one shots almost every time you pen.
L3 with bushes is OP and so much fun also my favourite tank in the game
Actually you can destroy panthers with the M22 locust.
Just try to be im their side (they cant aim at you if you are under them) and then thanks to your hobbit size aim your main gun to the 3rd wheel or the 4rd wheel counting from the front and shoot between the wheels and the side skirts.
And then try to hear the muffled Nein Nein Nein Nein while you Ring the panther with your frodo.
I call this tactic: The Trollkien
Would have given an additional point for the french L3 for at least having the ben pen of is entire lineup and for the 25mm dealing actual damage somehow
nice job man
Thanks!
XM800 in the American Tree, 7.0 br and a good auto cannon, fun to use, my German main friend calls it the most annoying tank at 6.0-8.0
@@BadGeneral you’re gonna like part 2.5
@@MrBucket9158 just saw part 2, nice job
Fox and its brother, the Eland 90 deserve to be on this list
nice someone finally made the video about the rats, also great video dude.. i kinda like your editing it's remind me of my favs youtuber
Glad you enjoyed!
I like your bucket… also I like your editing it’s like the perfect window into my mind.
Glad you like it man! Consider joining the discord!
4:11 I SWEAR THAT HAS TO BE ME I HAVE THE SAME DECAL ON MY M22
Nice lol
Video quality and editing skills are top notch. Keep up the good work!!
the ELC bis is an underrated rat
I’ll check it out
Martancitopants logo go hard
Oh wow
Martincitopants style
I like it
Just found this channel, 2mins in and I can tell the video is QUALITY
gives martincitopants vibes, good video
At ~2:19 you said that a small tank is called a tankette which is wrong. The designation tankette is given to armored vehicles with a machine gun as a main armament.
Budget martincitooants style editing. I love this guy already
Damn bro I like the style in this video, humor and the hatred for French things makes me want to check out your channel. I'm still only 2 months max in to warthunder so no rat from me but I'll keep an eye out for these things
I’m glad you liked it man!
Hope you've already met the end of my baguette ;)
Extremely underrated channel. Keep it up! 👍
Much appreciated!
Excellent video, great editing and fun to watch
best start to a vid ive ever seen
I decided to finally start France yesterday and went on a 9 kill streak in the ZT3. Probably the most fun I've had in a round... ever.
With the BT series, and side note idk yet if it’s mentioned, but the F-32(?) premium of the BT-7 is honestly a great rat. It’s got the mobility of the BT-7 with a better gun and the benefit of being oddly expensive nowadays. Honestly I don’t even remember grinding for it but I’ve had it forever.
T114 and M50 are a rat's pleasure. The amount of times I "missed" an enemy while driving these two just so they would think that I've missed and braillessly push me is hilarious :DD
nice vid, i think the asu deserves a mention though. great video again, cheers!
M56 Scorpion. Not only is it a rat, but you also get Vietnam flashbacks with it too!
CONTROVERSIAL OPINION ALERT
Archer is a good rat tank, and a good vehicle in general.
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Going to have to add the Fox to this list. It's basically a R3 that's slightly slower but with a gun that can pen the sides of most of the enemies it faces (once you get the APDS belt).
great video!
love the editing :D
Glad you enjoyed!
That KFC honest to god looks like a Twisted Metal vehicle, and I love it.
Earlier today I tried out the m22 in a test drive (because I’ve not yet reasearched it), and WOW that thing is ridiculously fast it accelerates to 60 kph in no time, so of course I had to research it and spade it asap
Wiesel 1a4. Gen3 Thermals, smol, fast, 100 round clip is enough to dismantle and kill a heavy tank, even less for others. It can also up tier pretty well since higher tiers can have more weak points for autocannons, and the thermals really do hold up
Downside is bad torque, if you hit something, it feels sluggish. Among other things like no armor and the 20mm is not stabalized, like the l33 it can be bouncy and takes patience.
I usually average 3 ground kills a game with the wiesel 1a4 and it is my favorite rat.
Not a truly rat tank in the traditional sense, but I've been using the Cromwell I in higher BRs like a rat.
The SARC 6pdr is objectively a better choice thanks to the better mobility and smaller size, but the smoke grenades it has can be a lifesavers and its 6pdr is still able to kill a good many enemies, especially German big cats
Really love the martincitopants editing style
what about the other version of the r3 with the two rocket launchers on the top
I shot down a fighter plane (I think it was a miraj) with an SD kfz221
The zis-30 is one of my favorite tank destroyers and in my opinion is a complete rat. Some other honorable mentions are the AS-42 and S-42/47
Too slow
I would also recommend Type 60 SPRG, one of the best rat tanks, it's small and has really good fire power in it's BR... and it can scout!