Exactly 😂 The kings needed a 3 n D wing or a stretch 4 PF( like a Markkanen) to help elevate their 3point shooting. What did the front office do? They got DeMar 😂😂
@@berserkmonk5331 that stretch 4 should've been keegan murray and the 3nD wing is keon ellis. Don't talk all that like the FO make a bad decision in signing Demar.
the kings have been my secord or third favorite team since the Boogie Cousins days and i'm always rooting for that organization bc they have amazing fans and they deserve bettere than what they getting rn
I’ve been a kings fan all my life. Seeing my team finally going forward with a competent and stable front office was something I thought I would never see. Now I’m not sure if the past disfunctionality is still surrounding us. The past with how shit the roster building has been ass and it’s showing right now. All I hope is that my team picks a direction. I would rather keep Fox and build a roster that makes sense around him. We need length, defense, physicality, and most importantly some consistency. If our front office can’t make a trade or do anything then get rid of them. Im tired of us waiting to get better. It shouldn’t take us being 12th in the west and slipping this bad with this many blowouts and bad losses to push our front office to make a move. We should already be finding ways to building the roster effectively at any given moment. If we trade Fox then we might as well blow up the ship and get our pick from the spurs back and every great young player we can get. Keep Keegan, Keon, and Devin Carter and ship everybody else out.
fox to the spurs, rockets, or magic makes the most sense. he makes any 3 of those team much more serious as contenders as long as the teams don’t give up a lot of their young talent/depth
I think people really underestimate how important Harrison Barnes was to the team. From a basketball point of view, he was a good shooter in this team, the second best defender after Keon Ellis. He's just a player with no obvious weaknesses that no team would give up on. In my opinion, one of the most underrated players of recent years (even considering the 20 million contract). He was also one of the few, and if I'm not mistaken, the only one besides Fox, who played on this team long enough to catch the dark days of the Kings. A veteran with championship experience who was really important to the team as a dude in the locker room, I'm sure. So Demar Derozan, who is completely different from Barnes in terms of playing style, just doesn't look like the player these Kings need. So, obviously, it's easy to talk against the background of poor results, but it doesn't seem like that trade was the right decision. Of course, maybe the coaching staff will figure out how to integrate Derozan into the system most effectively, rather than just giving him a couple of iso's per quarter, but so far this has not happened, so the trade looks erroneous.
You’re definitely not wrong and barnes was a good role player for the kings, but it’s hard to convince any front office that giving up Harrison barnes for derozan is a bad trade. That’s just a clear talent upgrade no matter how you frame it, regardless of the fit. What the team underestimated was how much derozan would slow the team down. Front office should’ve known better that he would shake up the kings’ identity as a young fast paced team. Not to mention how he takes the ball out of fox, sabonis, and monk’s hands. Obviously the lack of defense doesn’t help either. HB definitely had his faults and was not that great for the kings in many important moments (the one playoff series he was genuinely pretty terrible) so it’s easy to see why they made that trade. It just would’ve been better to trade him for any other wing
The signing of Demar Derozan is the equivalent of the the lakers trading for Russell Westbrook just unnecessary and doesn’t solve the current problem they have the kings needed a much upgraded 3/D wing from Harrison Barnes Keon Ellis was a defensive guard to fit next De’Arron and bring in Demar stunted both Keon and Kegan Murray growth
I don't get it. Kings fan said before signing Demar that they need a secondary playmaker/scorer to help fox. Now y'all switched and said that they need a 3nD wing. Keon ellis and keegan murray is that 3nD guys. Even if you guys sign KCP last offseason, y'all will still be complaining about needing a playmaker to help Fox. Pick a lane
I'm a kings fan and as much as I tried to talk myself into the demar move when it happened I just could never see how it would work. And we're seeing that play out in real time. Fox is and will be my favorite player of all time but it's time to stop wasting his best years and get something for him before he just walks away in free agency. The only way he stays with the kings is making all nba and being supermax eligible, and that's not happening with the kings very likely missing the playoffs.
As a life long kings fan it hurts so much for them to go from not making the playoffs since I was barely even conscious to an electric run in 22-23 just to IMMEDIATELY drop back to stunning mediocrity. Fox is the 2nd best player in our team’s history and the front office can’t even commit to a direction. I don’t want to go back to being shit after such a long playoff drought but clearly derozan wasn’t the right move and the office doesn’t wanna acknowledge it. It feels like we in hell rn man. If we commit to winning there’s still a good chance we won’t even be shit and continue to waste our best player’s prime
How careful will you be projecting Derik Queen's ceiling, considering the limitations his archetype brings to a team similar to Sabonis. Both extremely talented with touch and natural hoopers but restricts the defensive potential of a starting unit. I got Queen 9 on my board right now.
The sad reality for the Sacramento Kings is that the last placed San Jose Sharks are more exciting to watch now with their 18 year old superstar who's dad is the GSW's Director of Sports Medicine and Performance, Macklin Celebrini. The Sacramento Kings are where the Sharks were in the start of the 2019 season and so there's going to be a rough 6+ years ahead of them as they try to decide whether to do a full rebuild or trade pieces in what will only amount to a lateral move with no results. The 'Light the Beam' era only lasted two seasons which is pretty sad.
@davyunwashington3613 he Is absolutely right that was the reason randle had some horrible playoff games, teams know what you are going to do before you even know It, even Harden stats dipped a lot in the playoffs, its just that even with the dip Harden was still hella good in the playoffs
@leonardo_mrll me personally a players like a Russell Westbrook although he being player good a Demar Derozan a Julius Randle a Jordan Poole a Cam Thomas a Jalen Green works better coming off the bench because they can win u games if u don’t expose them too much
@@davyunwashington3613 all players that need high level defense around them, because they are great offensively but can play you out of a game so they need a defense that can win games when they struggle offensively... either that or play off the bench like you said
@ but then again some of the offensive players are just not good or better than some players that can do multiple things like u can win with a jokic as your number one u can win with ginnais as your number one u can win with curry being your number one and number two but can u say the same for a guy like demar Russ cam and Jalen ?
my kings are rough. we got one of the best arenas. best fans. players dont wanna come. players suck. the chemistry sucks. our tem leaders just do their own thing. they help the city sure but the team isnt teaming.
I don't think the king's should blow it up. I think they need to buy into the core, use their draft picks and young players to go get someone in the market to win now. The Kings front office still won't buy in on this team, which in my opinion has two winning players in Fox and Sabonis. I say this because the Kings front office is very bad at drafting and getting in talent historically. They have assets, but just don't want to use them. Future First Rounders, Keegan Murray, Keon Ellis, Big contract in Kevin Huerter, I believe they can make a blockbuster trade to get back into the mix.
I took vitamins. So dont take seriously... But I had a 3 team deal. Bulls get De'Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, Keon Ellis, and Miles Bridges. Hornets get Coby White, Zach LaVine, and Kevin Huerter. Kings get LaMelo Ball, Lonzo Ball, Cody Martin, and Dalen Terry.
Fox is ideal landing spot I think would be Houston because of the assets the kings could get pack great future draft picks from the suns reed sheppard and a expiring vanvleet contact would definitely be included and for sabonis he is super valuable because other than jokic and sengun there are no playmaking bigs that give you 20 a night with 10 plus boards and a lot of teams would be licking there chops and giving up young assets and picks for that As for derozan you would just send him back home for T Mann pj tucker and probably some 2nd rounders
Trust me, the Kings are not going to pick up Van Fleet unless there’s 4+ 1st round picks attached or a Jabari Smith Jr. is thrown in as well. The Kings org has a very low view on Van Fleet and would need incentives to take on someone they do not want around. Especially for their best star guard in 20 years. LMAO
He was doing NFT rug pulls for Christmas. It's time for him to go. It's been years and we got nowhere. Get some wing depth for him before he leaves, and we're left empty handed.
@@abhireddy7592for fox all it take is cap filler like fvv , Dillion brooks and a young player being Jarabi smith and couple of first rounders Jalen can’t be traded this season anyway
@@davyunwashington3613nah rockets would be competing with the spurs so they would need to offer reed sheppard cam whitmore fvv for salary purposes and 3 or 4 picks
@ nah because players wise the spurs not gonna give up a lot and plus the rockets have more interest draft picks such as the suns picks son the only player their giving up would be jb smith of any value
Kings are a horribly run franchise. Anybody blaming dfox tho the other day he had an off game. Is not watching them play. Derozan has been good as well. That bench gas been letting yall Down all season outside Monk whose really been starting a lot recently.
P tell me about this trade for kings: the nets get demar derozan, jordan mclaughlin 2 seconds and 1 first from the kings. the hornets get kevin huerter , trey lyles and two seconds from the kings. the kings get cam johnson,grant williams,cody martin and noah clowney.
Trading for Demar Derozan instead of defensive wings just didn’t make a lick of sense man.
Exactly 😂
The kings needed a 3 n D wing or a stretch 4 PF( like a Markkanen) to help elevate their 3point shooting.
What did the front office do?
They got DeMar 😂😂
He was a fa if we traded for him we would be even worse
@@berserkmonk5331 that stretch 4 should've been keegan murray and the 3nD wing is keon ellis. Don't talk all that like the FO make a bad decision in signing Demar.
the kings have been my secord or third favorite team since the Boogie Cousins days and i'm always rooting for that organization bc they have amazing fans and they deserve bettere than what they getting rn
Facts
I’ve been a kings fan all my life. Seeing my team finally going forward with a competent and stable front office was something I thought I would never see. Now I’m not sure if the past disfunctionality is still surrounding us. The past with how shit the roster building has been ass and it’s showing right now.
All I hope is that my team picks a direction. I would rather keep Fox and build a roster that makes sense around him. We need length, defense, physicality, and most importantly some consistency. If our front office can’t make a trade or do anything then get rid of them. Im tired of us waiting to get better. It shouldn’t take us being 12th in the west and slipping this bad with this many blowouts and bad losses to push our front office to make a move. We should already be finding ways to building the roster effectively at any given moment.
If we trade Fox then we might as well blow up the ship and get our pick from the spurs back and every great young player we can get. Keep Keegan, Keon, and Devin Carter and ship everybody else out.
fox to the spurs, rockets, or magic makes the most sense. he makes any 3 of those team much more serious as contenders as long as the teams don’t give up a lot of their young talent/depth
He has a bad contract
@@ididntaskverified3663 He's an expiring contract next season. It's actually a good situation for teams cause that means he's not worth 3/4 FRP
Fox is gone 8yrs was long enough for the Kings to get a winning team together
I’ve been waiting for someone to post about this, send fox to Houston
We know what Houston and lefty guards do👀👀
Orlando
@@BattleTruth no not Orlando
Hes a spur
@@Easybakeoven18 They have a better team than the kings
I think people really underestimate how important Harrison Barnes was to the team. From a basketball point of view, he was a good shooter in this team, the second best defender after Keon Ellis. He's just a player with no obvious weaknesses that no team would give up on. In my opinion, one of the most underrated players of recent years (even considering the 20 million contract). He was also one of the few, and if I'm not mistaken, the only one besides Fox, who played on this team long enough to catch the dark days of the Kings. A veteran with championship experience who was really important to the team as a dude in the locker room, I'm sure.
So Demar Derozan, who is completely different from Barnes in terms of playing style, just doesn't look like the player these Kings need. So, obviously, it's easy to talk against the background of poor results, but it doesn't seem like that trade was the right decision. Of course, maybe the coaching staff will figure out how to integrate Derozan into the system most effectively, rather than just giving him a couple of iso's per quarter, but so far this has not happened, so the trade looks erroneous.
You’re definitely not wrong and barnes was a good role player for the kings, but it’s hard to convince any front office that giving up Harrison barnes for derozan is a bad trade. That’s just a clear talent upgrade no matter how you frame it, regardless of the fit. What the team underestimated was how much derozan would slow the team down. Front office should’ve known better that he would shake up the kings’ identity as a young fast paced team. Not to mention how he takes the ball out of fox, sabonis, and monk’s hands. Obviously the lack of defense doesn’t help either. HB definitely had his faults and was not that great for the kings in many important moments (the one playoff series he was genuinely pretty terrible) so it’s easy to see why they made that trade. It just would’ve been better to trade him for any other wing
I didn't think about how important Harrison Barnes was to them as a vet and locker room guy, that's a great point!
The signing of Demar Derozan is the equivalent of the the lakers trading for Russell Westbrook just unnecessary and doesn’t solve the current problem they have the kings needed a much upgraded 3/D wing from Harrison Barnes Keon Ellis was a defensive guard to fit next De’Arron and bring in Demar stunted both Keon and Kegan Murray growth
True atleast the Kings didn't have to destroy their franchise's assets though 🥲
@ if I’m the lakers I would sell try to get as many draft picks from AD and Bron and start over
I don't get it. Kings fan said before signing Demar that they need a secondary playmaker/scorer to help fox. Now y'all switched and said that they need a 3nD wing. Keon ellis and keegan murray is that 3nD guys. Even if you guys sign KCP last offseason, y'all will still be complaining about needing a playmaker to help Fox. Pick a lane
I'm a kings fan and as much as I tried to talk myself into the demar move when it happened I just could never see how it would work. And we're seeing that play out in real time. Fox is and will be my favorite player of all time but it's time to stop wasting his best years and get something for him before he just walks away in free agency. The only way he stays with the kings is making all nba and being supermax eligible, and that's not happening with the kings very likely missing the playoffs.
As a life long kings fan it hurts so much for them to go from not making the playoffs since I was barely even conscious to an electric run in 22-23 just to IMMEDIATELY drop back to stunning mediocrity. Fox is the 2nd best player in our team’s history and the front office can’t even commit to a direction. I don’t want to go back to being shit after such a long playoff drought but clearly derozan wasn’t the right move and the office doesn’t wanna acknowledge it. It feels like we in hell rn man. If we commit to winning there’s still a good chance we won’t even be shit and continue to waste our best player’s prime
How careful will you be projecting Derik Queen's ceiling, considering the limitations his archetype brings to a team similar to Sabonis. Both extremely talented with touch and natural hoopers but restricts the defensive potential of a starting unit. I got Queen 9 on my board right now.
The sad reality for the Sacramento Kings is that the last placed San Jose Sharks are more exciting to watch now with their 18 year old superstar who's dad is the GSW's Director of Sports Medicine and Performance, Macklin Celebrini. The Sacramento Kings are where the Sharks were in the start of the 2019 season and so there's going to be a rough 6+ years ahead of them as they try to decide whether to do a full rebuild or trade pieces in what will only amount to a lateral move with no results. The 'Light the Beam' era only lasted two seasons which is pretty sad.
"there is some players who only know how to score in one way"
damn julius randle only left hand games left a scar on our boy lmao
But he anit lying tho or that all a player can provide a high level
@davyunwashington3613 he Is absolutely right that was the reason randle had some horrible playoff games, teams know what you are going to do before you even know It, even Harden stats dipped a lot in the playoffs, its just that even with the dip Harden was still hella good in the playoffs
@leonardo_mrll me personally a players like a Russell Westbrook although he being player good a Demar Derozan a Julius Randle a Jordan Poole a Cam Thomas a Jalen Green works better coming off the bench because they can win u games if u don’t expose them too much
@@davyunwashington3613 all players that need high level defense around them, because they are great offensively but can play you out of a game so they need a defense that can win games when they struggle offensively... either that or play off the bench like you said
@ but then again some of the offensive players are just not good or better than some players that can do multiple things like u can win with a jokic as your number one u can win with ginnais as your number one u can win with curry being your number one and number two but can u say the same for a guy like demar Russ cam and Jalen ?
He from Texas I think he gone end up being a rocket
We really can’t have nice things 😔
2:33 when you say "better" it already implies "more" so saying more better is grammatically incorrect, keep rockin P
Bro didn’t let it slide 😂
P been saying “more better”for years you ain’t finna get him to change LOL
I’m not sure if it’s refreshing or embarrassing to hear someone say that they are a basketball savant type person.
NBA needs to remove the east vs west. The best 16 teams make the playoffs. Period.
my kings are rough. we got one of the best arenas. best fans. players dont wanna come. players suck. the chemistry sucks. our tem leaders just do their own thing. they help the city sure but the team isnt teaming.
its like development just stagnates here.
I don't think the king's should blow it up. I think they need to buy into the core, use their draft picks and young players to go get someone in the market to win now. The Kings front office still won't buy in on this team, which in my opinion has two winning players in Fox and Sabonis.
I say this because the Kings front office is very bad at drafting and getting in talent historically. They have assets, but just don't want to use them. Future First Rounders, Keegan Murray, Keon Ellis, Big contract in Kevin Huerter, I believe they can make a blockbuster trade to get back into the mix.
I took vitamins. So dont take seriously... But I had a 3 team deal.
Bulls get De'Aaron Fox, Malik Monk, Keon Ellis, and Miles Bridges.
Hornets get Coby White, Zach LaVine, and Kevin Huerter.
Kings get LaMelo Ball, Lonzo Ball, Cody Martin, and Dalen Terry.
Why would the Spurs trade for De Arron Fox when they already have Stephon Castle?
can we get college bball content or are you a casual this szn?
calling P a casual should be illegal😂
Once conference play starts. I believe we’ll start to see CBB content
its not all about just them shooting a lot of middys they shoot more now because keegan and kevin been struggling plus no defensive wings
Fox + Paola banchero
Common W video
Fox is ideal landing spot I think would be Houston because of the assets the kings could get pack great future draft picks from the suns reed sheppard and a expiring vanvleet contact would definitely be included
and for sabonis he is super valuable because other than jokic and sengun there are no playmaking bigs that give you 20 a night with 10 plus boards and a lot of teams would be licking there chops and giving up young assets and picks for that
As for derozan you would just send him back home for T Mann pj tucker and probably some 2nd rounders
Trust me, the Kings are not going to pick up Van Fleet unless there’s 4+ 1st round picks attached or a Jabari Smith Jr. is thrown in as well. The Kings org has a very low view on Van Fleet and would need incentives to take on someone they do not want around. Especially for their best star guard in 20 years. LMAO
Yessirr
Kings went and traded for Demar and Caruso was right there.
They didn't trade for Demar. Do you actually watch basketball smh 😂😂😂
He was doing NFT rug pulls for Christmas. It's time for him to go. It's been years and we got nowhere. Get some wing depth for him before he leaves, and we're left empty handed.
bring me fox man, houstonian, can teach jalen, and i love how he plays so so much
I agree, I feel like he fixes everything they need. What would you be willing to give up?
idk if jalen staying if fox coming to houston
@@abhireddy7592for fox all it take is cap filler like fvv , Dillion brooks and a young player being Jarabi smith and couple of first rounders Jalen can’t be traded this season anyway
@@davyunwashington3613nah rockets would be competing with the spurs so they would need to offer reed sheppard cam whitmore fvv for salary purposes and 3 or 4 picks
@ nah because players wise the spurs not gonna give up a lot and plus the rockets have more interest draft picks such as the suns picks son the only player their giving up would be jb smith of any value
They need a rim protector
Derozan dont fit make him 6th man or something
Wouldnt Kings fans rather be mid than go back to being ass after being ass for a decade ?
Kings are a horribly run franchise. Anybody blaming dfox tho the other day he had an off game. Is not watching them play. Derozan has been good as well. That bench gas been letting yall Down all season outside Monk whose really been starting a lot recently.
Fox needs to sign with Orlando
P tell me about this trade for kings:
the nets get demar derozan, jordan mclaughlin 2 seconds and 1 first from the kings.
the hornets get kevin huerter , trey lyles and two seconds from the kings.
the kings get cam johnson,grant williams,cody martin and noah clowney.
Solves nothing in this conference.
Boy fox coming home to the H
Send Vanvleet to Sacramento for Fox & fillers
lol trust me brother, the Kings org will never ever take on the Van Fleet contract unless it includes 4+ firsts or a Jabari Smith Jr thrown in
I Hope he enters free agency and signs with Miami