Modulation Pedals Explained (Chorus, Phaser, Vibrato, Flanger, Tremolo, Rotary)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • This week on the JHS Show, we break down a complicated subject: modulation. By the end of this episode, you're going to understand how modulation works, why this effect goes by roughly a hundred different names and-- most importantly --you'll be better equipped to rock out with your own modulation pedal. You're welcome.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:38 Understanding Modulation
    1:03 Tremolo
    2:32 Rotary
    4:35 Univibe
    7:16 Phaser
    10:33 Flanger
    12:22 Chorus
    14:28 Vibrato
    16:27 Ring Modulation
    19:08 Just Try Stuff!
    21:25 Record Time
    22:17 Thanks for Watching!
    Gear in this Episode:
    Boss TR-2 Tremolo
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    Strymon Lex Rotary
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    JHS Unicorn V2
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    MXR Phase 90
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    MXR M290 Phase 95 Mini Phaser
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    Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress XO Analog Flanger
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    Boss CE-2 Chorus
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    Boss CE-2W Waza Craft Chorus
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    JHS 3 Series Chorus
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    Boss VB-2 Vibrato
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    Boss VB-2W Waza Craft Vibrato
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    TC Electronics Shaker Vibrato
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    Electro-Harmonix Ring Thing Sideband Modulator
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    Line 6 MM4 Modulation Modeler
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    Boss MD-200 Modulation Multi-Effect
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    Seuf Guitars Blackguard Tele
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    JHS "Loud Is More Good Amp"
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    Record Time:
    Alison's Halo - Eyedazzler
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    Josh’s record player is by U-Turn Audio:
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  • @LeStraTele
    @LeStraTele 2 года назад +367

    A ring modulator is like having a second guitarist that plays along with you, and ALWAYS hits the wrong notes. Fun.

    • @alanredversangel
      @alanredversangel 2 года назад +21

      UNLESS You tune it to your root note and then play major pentatonic notes. Then it's fun.

    • @johnkruton9708
      @johnkruton9708 2 года назад +41

      Since I already play the wrong notes will it then play the correct notes and I’ll be awesome? (Sarcasm)

    • @UnboundOdysseus
      @UnboundOdysseus Год назад +13

      So it’s like adding me to your band? Awesome!!

    • @kevinr.3542
      @kevinr.3542 Год назад

      So its like the Allman Brothers if Dicky Betts was a drunken robot mimicking every note Duane played just to be a DICk

    • @rmaxtpmx
      @rmaxtpmx 5 месяцев назад +2

      And you're both picking behind the bridge.

  • @xdoctorblindx
    @xdoctorblindx 2 года назад +740

    Legend has it that Elvis never died and he's still sitting at Guitar Center wondering about which modulation pedal to buy to this day.

    • @milijoe5725
      @milijoe5725 2 года назад +3

      🤣

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 2 года назад +6

      @@elliotvernon7971 Do they make a peanut butter and hot sauce one? Or whatever weird sandwich was his favorite.

    • @SuperRbert
      @SuperRbert 2 года назад +11

      What? Is he dead?

    • @tylerevans1700
      @tylerevans1700 2 года назад +2

      Lolol, this comment is so random/perfect af.. ☮️ 💕

    • @fredstevens799
      @fredstevens799 2 года назад +7

      @@SuperRbert he's been pretty quiet for a while... we need to talk.

  • @P_Ezi
    @P_Ezi 2 года назад +560

    Next T shirt:
    Flangers will do chorus,
    and chorus has vibrato in it,
    and univibe is actually a phaser,
    but a phaser is not a univibe.

    • @Acroanidd
      @Acroanidd 2 года назад +14

      Could probably chop it down to just the univibe being a phaser but phaser not being a univibe and just showing pictures of pedals and the equals and not equals sign. i would totally bouy the hell out of it.

    • @jimiemil
      @jimiemil 2 года назад +6

      And trhe Univibe is not a Leslie :D

    • @davemabee5798
      @davemabee5798 2 года назад +5

      And Leslie just wants to go about her business.

    • @RobertTheBruce88
      @RobertTheBruce88 2 года назад +2

      That's some advance mathematics

    • @jeanenviedapprendre
      @jeanenviedapprendre 2 года назад +2

      Could be a series of shirts, but I like the whole thing together!

  • @joebiondo6898
    @joebiondo6898 2 года назад +356

    I love how Leo Fender confused generations of guitarists by misnaming the vibrato on his guitars, and tremolo on his amps.

  • @kylemilbrandt2472
    @kylemilbrandt2472 2 года назад +45

    "Goblin-like tones" is probably the best description of ring modulator I've ever heard.

  • @iknowyouarh
    @iknowyouarh 2 года назад +157

    Flanger = very short mod delay with feedback
    Chorus = short mod delay no feedback
    Vibrato = short mod delay no feedback & no dry

    • @gourmetprospectin9033
      @gourmetprospectin9033 Год назад

      My man. I pulled this set up on my Boss DD-20.

    • @-jank-willson
      @-jank-willson Год назад +1

      is there a way to get a flanger without the 'in-and-out' dopplar effect? Like a stationary fighter jet, rather than a fighter jet flying over you?
      Please PLEASE help me I need to know!!
      I like the sound of a flanger, but not the 'dopplar' like effect.
      Maybe a flanger with an expression pedal, and just set the expression pedal to one place, and keep it in place with duct tape?

    • @tezeta3725
      @tezeta3725 Год назад

      Chorus usually has a slightly longer delay time as well. More specifically flanger sits in the haas effect zone aka anything under 20ms, while chorus is generally between 20-50ms. Thats actually what causes the majority of their difference in sound, because the extremely short delay time on a flanger causes phase differences between the two signals resulting in comb filtering. Since chorus has a longer delay time you dont get the comb filter effect and instead just here the flucuation in pitch from the delay time being modulated.

    • @tezeta3725
      @tezeta3725 Год назад

      ​@@-jank-willsonit sounds like what you're looking for is a delay pedal that can do extremely short delay times. As detailed in my above comment a delay thats under 20ms will cause an effect called comb filtering. Essentially a flanger pedal is doing the same thing but the delay time is being modulated creating the doppler like whooshing effect as the comb filter is shifted up and down the frequency range. So if you can find a delay pedal that can do those short delays or a flanger pedal that lets you turn off the modulation either would work. I know most digital delays would work and the earthquaker pyramids flanger has some settings that would work as well.

    • @-jank-willson
      @-jank-willson Год назад +1

      @@tezeta3725 ain't no delay pedal that's gonna do 20ms or less LOL, unless you get one custom made. (I expect my royalty check in the mail, Boss and DOD...)
      I also only do analogue pedals, so maybe the pyramids flanger would be good if it is not insanely expensive, and can genuinely turn off the modulation...
      Or maybe a flanger with an expression pedal, set at a single point would work.

  • @brian_mccomedy
    @brian_mccomedy 2 года назад +413

    Further explanation for Ring Modulator pedals:
    Carrier frequency is what you set on the pedal (i.e. tune it to the note A - 440hz)
    Modulator frequency is whatever note the guitar is playing (i.e. play the dominant 5th, like in a power chord, which would be E at 659.25hz)
    The pedal takes those two, and mixes in the sum and difference of those frequencies.
    So it will generate the sum frequency:
    A-440hz + E-659.25hz = C# at 1099hz
    (C# is a Major 3rd in the Key of A),
    And it will generate the difference between the two frequencies:
    A-440hz - E-659.25hz = A at 219hz
    (The note A but a lower octave down).
    As you can see the frequencies it generates aren't perfectly in tune, and depending what note you play it can sound more or less dissonant.
    Other names for it could be:
    - microtonal chord generator pedal.
    - Unison Bend pedal
    - Mathematicians noise rock pedal
    Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

    • @P_Ezi
      @P_Ezi 2 года назад +7

      Awesome analysis

    • @brian_mccomedy
      @brian_mccomedy 2 года назад +1

      @@P_Ezi Thanks!

    • @markhammer643
      @markhammer643 2 года назад +13

      Lower modulating frequencies (e.g., 100hz) result in a more "pitched" ring modulator sound, since the sum and difference sideband products are closer to the original pitch, while higher modulation rates yield sideband products so divergent from the original pitch that they can seem incoherent; especially if either the sum OR difference result is outside the audible range. For example, if the modulating frequency was 1000hz, for many notes, one would not be able to hear the difference frequency (too low) OR the sum (too high).
      Just about ANY modulation pedal - tremolo, phaser, chorus, flanger, etc. - can be transformed into something that *sounds* like a ring modulator, simply by increasing the speed of the LFO. The vast majority of LFOs will be in the sub-audio range (

    • @1000mg.
      @1000mg. 2 года назад +3

      Thank you for the explanation, I'm dazed and confused.

    • @markhammer643
      @markhammer643 2 года назад

      @@1000mg. Well when the dust settles, if you have any questions, feel free to ask away.

  • @Agent36
    @Agent36 2 года назад +18

    "Somethings have to be experienced." Underrated statement in life.

  • @verdantstudios
    @verdantstudios 2 года назад +49

    Definitely didn't expect to hear Alison's Halo in Record Time. I'm a huge shoegaze fan and even I've hardly listened to them. Nice pull.

    • @markjamesmason
      @markjamesmason 2 года назад +2

      There from Tempe Arizona, I’m from Tempe Arizona. Adam guitar used to run GuitarGeek.com which was a magical place where guitarist used to learn about what their heroes used in their rig. It may or may not have been the reason I did ridiculous things like but an ADA MP-1.

    • @Si_G
      @Si_G 2 года назад

      Yeah new for me, too.

  • @joshuaandtheruins8580
    @joshuaandtheruins8580 2 года назад +49

    Also, the "ring" in the name "ring mod" comes from the pattern of four diodes at the center of the schematic, that looks like a little square ring. A passive ring mod is an incredibly easy circuit to make, and if you make the carrier an input jack rather than an oscillator, you can combine two guitar signals, white noise, and anything else you want. As Josh noted, it's the effect for you if you are weird!

  • @natashanyxx9486
    @natashanyxx9486 2 года назад +22

    I like the Moog stand-alone Ring Modulator, the Mooger Fooger.

    • @Healcraft
      @Healcraft 2 года назад +3

      googled it and its real, what a good name

    • @SonicRave1
      @SonicRave1 2 года назад +4

      It’s the best ring mod pedal!

    • @waterpig84
      @waterpig84 2 года назад

      Yup that's why earthquaker doesnt want to release a ring mod, he said he surpass it

  • @TheDrunkenScoundrel
    @TheDrunkenScoundrel 2 года назад +12

    I actually booked Alison’s Halo at the bar I worked at in Tempe, AZ. SUPER nice people.

  • @shkibby1
    @shkibby1 2 года назад +114

    Just checked reverb, Josh's Klon is the cheapest posted pedal.

    • @Jediroller
      @Jediroller 2 года назад +12

      Reverb should add like a sound effect of someone getting shafted everytime they add something to cart.

    • @CathodeRayNipplez
      @CathodeRayNipplez 2 года назад

      @@Jediroller Bwahahahah. GOLD!

    • @fredstevens799
      @fredstevens799 2 года назад +3

      @@Jediroller what does that actually sound like? wait...

  • @bernardfoshage9901
    @bernardfoshage9901 2 года назад +14

    Chorus is a staple on my board. It's ON all the time at a slow speed and moderate depth.
    It really adds to the saturation of high gain.

    • @randa4382
      @randa4382 Год назад +1

      I use a super subtle chorus for that same thing... even helps for the super nasty almost dime squeal harmonics.. that i dont pull off correctly cuz i dont use a floyd... but yeah... just that edge of on, but always on.

  • @mattstanley8944
    @mattstanley8944 2 года назад +15

    I’ve said it before ... I’ll say it again .
    I love this channel and Josh and all at JHS truly love this industry , the history , The nerdy stuff and the fans !
    Thank you Thank you Thank you

  • @amraines64
    @amraines64 2 года назад +7

    been using a boss bf2 flanger as a chorus pedal for years. imho it hits the nail perfectly on the head

    • @mischiefmikeyo
      @mischiefmikeyo 2 года назад +1

      Same if you turn the manual and res down its basically a chorus

  • @DanielViruz
    @DanielViruz 2 года назад +8

    I know this show is more about the fascination about effects and the sound you can get instead of the background science but I think it would be quite interesting to see a flat note portrayed in a graphic of every pedal effect and see the differences of each effect, that would be an amazing way to see how they work or modulate

  • @eata55
    @eata55 2 года назад +29

    Phaser: what your heart rate should be
    Univibe: what your heart rate really is

    • @denismguitar1552
      @denismguitar1552 2 года назад +4

      Until you get that pesky ring mod atrial fib!

  • @blackf9068
    @blackf9068 2 года назад +7

    I got my Behringer Ultra Tremolo/Pan UT300 the last month, the reazon why I choice this pedal, aside the cheap price, was the Pan function. Contect it to 2 amplifiers is a complete pleasure.

  • @jrockkai
    @jrockkai 2 года назад +7

    I needed a modulation pedal on my board and learned about the Zoom Multistomp MS-70CDR and havent looked back!

  • @SilasRNold
    @SilasRNold 2 года назад +6

    Nick, I don't know how you recorded Wurds Iz Hard without laughing hysterically every take, but I appreciate you for it.

  • @xdoctorblindx
    @xdoctorblindx 2 года назад +54

    The Wampler Terraform is a pretty exceptional multi-modulation pedal with presets and a small footprint.

    • @neilrobinson7615
      @neilrobinson7615 2 года назад +2

      The free plugin version is one of my all time favourite plugins. Incredibly good.

    • @License2Bust
      @License2Bust Год назад

      @@neilrobinson7615 What would that be champ?
      Not seeing it on their site.

  • @gustavoeduardomoralesorteg3022
    @gustavoeduardomoralesorteg3022 2 года назад +19

    So, basically the world wouldn’t have Cocteau Twins in it if Chorus was never invented?

  • @TheBeriking
    @TheBeriking 2 года назад +10

    In just a few months I went from “modulation? Meh… chorus makes me seasick” to “I’ll try a series 3 chorus and see if I like it…wow it’s actually pretty cool” to “I can’t live without flanger” (got a ThorpyFX Camouflange that is just flat-out tone sorcery), to “I also love phaser and what about harmonic tremolo and oh my god I MUST have a univibe (Hendrix!!!!)…”
    Enter the MD500. It’s now practically always on, switching between different modes *in parallel* usually straight into a Charlie Brown for pure sonic bliss.
    Probably going to get a unicorn next, as I’m effectively hooked on the vibe.
    Hi.I’m Ran. And I am a pedalholic.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 2 года назад

      *Hi Ran. Hello, my name is Corb, and I’m a pedalholic. 😀
      If you’re really into the Uni-Vibe, I suggest trying to find one of the higher end ones to compare the differences with digital and even pedals like Josh’s Unicorn.
      I’m talking builders like Sabbadius, Kingtone and a few others that are in the $300-$500 range. The pre-amps in the big boy pedals makes a big difference, whether for better or worse, but modern builds have ability to take it out and/or be true bypass instead of buffered bypass, or the preamp always on.
      Fret Junkies is a good channel to see someone who is obsessed with Uni-Vibes, along with guitar stuff in general, and does videos on many of the top builders. He talks about differences, and why he likes one more or less accordingly.
      Good luck. I have owned at least 12 different Uni-Vibes, and still own 3 that I keep for different reasons.
      My current favorite is the Kingtone 1968.

    • @TheBeriking
      @TheBeriking 2 года назад

      @@CorbCorbin Hey Corb, we love you!
      Thanks for the great suggestions, I will definitely check out fret junkies and research these names.
      Another one that intrigues is the Pedal Pawn Gypsy vibe.
      The unicorn was (is) especially enticing because of the form factor, tap tempo, killer aesthetic (like all JHS pedals) and the fact it’s using an actual bulb driven circuit (as opposed to a digital recreation of the effect) which seems really cool for a pedal this size.
      But I can definitely see the allure in a more vintage-correct unit, and as I dive deeper into the addiction I guess that is probably the inevitable path I will follow...

  • @NewFalconerRecords
    @NewFalconerRecords 2 года назад +23

    I've got a Nu>X (call it Nux if you will) Leslie Speaker cab sim pedal called a Roctary (it's got an octave feature as well). Quite inexpensive. Not bad at all. For those on a budget wanting to dip their toe into the Leslie rotating speaker world, it's a pretty good option. I've used it on both keyboards and guitars on recordings and it's more than a bit of fun, got some great results.

  • @thedissonaut6707
    @thedissonaut6707 2 года назад +12

    I bought the ring thing on a whim years ago. It can do the octave thing, univibe thing, chorus, and tremolo. Obviously it’s limited on how it makes those sounds. But I thought they are all pretty solid for it just being one pedal. The Manual online tells how to set the pedal for all those effects.

  • @antonyedwardson9900
    @antonyedwardson9900 2 года назад +1

    My MD-200 arrived 3 days ago and today it features on the JHS show, I couldn’t be prouder!

  • @LloydWoodall
    @LloydWoodall 2 года назад +1

    "Explaining what this does is really festive..."
    I have a new go-to word for describing things. Thanks, Josh!

  • @davidsommerville2213
    @davidsommerville2213 2 года назад +7

    Josh, I just knew that I’d come out the other side of this video understanding the difference between chorus and flanger. I know a bit, but not too much. Your use of the chalkboard totally crystallized my understanding of phasing, so you closed the door on this for me, and thank you. Confoundingly, however, I’ve looked up and never really gotten the distinction between chorus and flange. I get chorus. Flange sounds similar. There’s something about feedback being fed back into the signal. Why, Josh, why?!?! Please do a short video with a chalkboard and help me understand what happens. You are my only hope.

  • @hugomartinho2555
    @hugomartinho2555 2 года назад +5

    You got a new shirt right there in the intro: "I'm a semi-pro-modulation-master!"

  • @flatbaroque4049
    @flatbaroque4049 2 года назад +2

    You're the one channel that I don't skip the ads on. It's my way of supporting you and it's because I appreciate what you do. Thank you Josh. Your a big help to the whole music community. Respect.

  • @brianrollins7275
    @brianrollins7275 Год назад

    Thanks for the informative video, I appreciate it. You’re terrible for my GAS problem but I can’t stop watching your videos. I’m learning a lot from it so thanks again for doing what you do. I was already a big fan of JHS Pedals but that history of JHS Pedals video made me appreciate you and your team on a whole other level. Much respect to your whole team and especially you for putting in all those hours and hard work to create so many great pedals.
    Take care

  • @dyonight
    @dyonight 2 года назад +7

    That was so good! And it's great to hear at least one exemple of a JHS effect having a spot light so we don't forget how outstanding your stuff actually is!

  • @ImNotOld_ImVintage
    @ImNotOld_ImVintage 2 года назад +8

    "Semi-Pro Modulation Master" belongs on a tee shirt!

  • @Mr.5hady
    @Mr.5hady 2 года назад +1

    Yes! I have wondered that just this few last days! You released this video just in the right time for me, thank you very much Mr. Pedal-Guy🥳

  • @ipuya
    @ipuya Год назад

    The entertainment value, and quality of these videos is just crazy good! So informative i wanna like bookmark all of them!

  • @MrAKbass
    @MrAKbass 2 года назад +3

    Great explanation of the phaser effect, never knew this was behind it.

  • @WayneMemphisMojo
    @WayneMemphisMojo 2 года назад +3

    I discovered something about modulation today. It seduces me to such a mello state of mind that I lose consciousness. I had to go back & watch this video 4 times.

  • @BCtheCreator
    @BCtheCreator 2 года назад

    Playing guitar for several years now, and I finally have a good grasp on modulations purpose and the types! Thanks man!

  • @johndrowe5281
    @johndrowe5281 9 месяцев назад

    As usual, thank you for the smiles and the education. As far as pedals go, you are one of the most erudite gentlemen on the Internet. I thoroughly enjoy hearing you break down the differences in pedal designs and uses. Keep the joy afloat… Enjoy this 2023 autumn 🍂🍁🍂.
    🎸👨🏼‍⚕️🎸. 🫶✌️♾️.

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark761966 2 года назад +7

    Ring modulator = Every robot/cyborg voice in 60s British TV sc-ifi shows

  • @RichardPhillipsDJ
    @RichardPhillipsDJ 2 года назад +4

    After far too long, I realised what I love is Rotary, probably because of all the Jimmy Smith and Booker T. I've listened to over the years. I've been using a Fender Pinwheel and enjoying it massively, especially when going into stereo speakers/amps.

    • @dahmc59
      @dahmc59 2 года назад +1

      Josh mentions more than once in other videos how excellent fender pedals are...i thought he was getting a little choked up about it he likes them so much.

  • @m.malina6797
    @m.malina6797 2 года назад +1

    This video is extremely helpful, JHS. It's like a crash course in Mod in under 30 minutes. Well done...
    Tremolo and Reverb are all I want.
    I'm a man of simple taste.

  • @andresmm24
    @andresmm24 2 года назад +1

    FINALLY I been waiting this episode for years

  • @daveoh13
    @daveoh13 2 года назад +5

    i have several stand-alone modulation pedals, but the boss md-500 is incredible...

  • @Henni63
    @Henni63 2 года назад +4

    The Wampler Terraform is a great multi-pedal, too.

    • @NutsTesticles
      @NutsTesticles 2 года назад +2

      I wanted one so bad but they're so expensive (for my budget) so I got the Joyo Vision and it totally rules

    • @randa4382
      @randa4382 Год назад

      @@NutsTesticles the budget pedal chap does a lot of comparisons with joyo and i (almost) always prefer them over the more expensive counterparts.

  • @petew.1418
    @petew.1418 2 года назад +1

    Awesome! Thanks Josh and JHS crew!
    I had an Electric Mistress years ago, when the battery ran low, it had thus weird, (but pretty cool), metallic reverby thing happening.

  • @jitterjive4711
    @jitterjive4711 2 года назад +1

    As always, when watching one of your videos, I learned a lot and found it very interesting. Thanks for helping me on my way to getting a better understanding of effects pedals.

  • @Shanecurle
    @Shanecurle 2 года назад +5

    I play professionally and stopped using pedals for my own reasons. Yet, here I am.
    I could listen to Josh read a shampoo bottle.
    I still love pedals even if I don’t use em’ much these days. I grew up on huge pedal boards.
    Love the passion. The information.
    The truth is out there.

  • @TheFlutecart
    @TheFlutecart 2 года назад +15

    I grew up in the 80's. Burned out on Chorus effects. Phasers and Flangers I still use often. I use to turn my DOD 747 Flanger to a very subtle effect setting and just leave it on all the time. It fattened up an acoustic guitar like a magic trick.

    • @macsarcule
      @macsarcule 2 года назад +3

      I recently re-acquired my old DOD Flanger FX-75B from ‘85, and the nostalgia was delightful. Good to know there are others with some DOD Flanger love 🙂

    • @harls7317
      @harls7317 Год назад

      Stop the cap bro bro

  • @tysongalloway5700
    @tysongalloway5700 3 месяца назад

    I watched this video when I first started getting into pedals. Now I’m about to give a seminar on them, and these explanations really helped. Thanks man.

  • @Nonono537
    @Nonono537 Год назад

    I’m commenting again! I’m so obsessed with your record time choice here. It’s literally what I’ve be listening to for 4 months straight. I’m jealous that you have the record. It’s becoming hard to find or 8 million dollars. Anyway, right on Josh!!!

  • @brysimm404
    @brysimm404 2 года назад +4

    Wow Josh, great Record Time recommend :D I’m a long time (like 30 years) Shoegaze fan, but hadn’t heard “Allison’s Halo”. Like a blend of Slowdive & Cocteau Twins with the singer from Cranes (fortunately not as high pitched). Really good episode overall too - Thanks!

  • @iuriassalin1667
    @iuriassalin1667 2 года назад +42

    TC Shaker price in Brazil: a month minimum wage...

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 2 года назад +3

      There are some very insane shipping costs in Argentina and Brazil, which make it really difficult for one man operations to get their pedals to the U.S. or Europe.
      The Cosmic Phaser and Robotic Flanger made by retroheadfx, are analog pedals they have functionality far beyond even some of the most praised boutique builders. Compare the Robotic Flanger to the Camoflange by Thorpe, and it does everything the Thorpy can and more, for less than half the price, but because of shipping no one really knows about them.
      They had them priced at about $150 US dollars, but shipping for even one pedal is almost that much. They’ve taken the flanger off the website now. Guess I waited too long to decide whether to buy both pedals and just eat the shipping.
      The Cosmic Phaser has so many options fir an analog effect it’s amazing, including being a killer optical Trem, and pretty good uni-vibe sounds.

    • @luke211286
      @luke211286 2 года назад +1

      Just when I think prices of pedals in the Philippines are overinflated, someone else beat us to it

    • @kodykindhart5644
      @kodykindhart5644 2 года назад +1

      😭😭😭
      I thought we were inflated

    • @ahmetyasirsakall77
      @ahmetyasirsakall77 2 года назад

      and turkey

    • @silvanorocha3
      @silvanorocha3 3 месяца назад

      You can by a BF2 for 70 dollars bucks and now ee have some great builders in Brazil. I recently bought a Ibanez FL9 for 60 dollars, cheaper than USA. So, se have many used options. We have a brand called oliver that was a rembrand of BOSS on the 80s and 90s. It’s the same circuit, with same sound of BF2, It coasts about 40 dollars used. Se have many players that moved to digital.

  • @lukemason7842
    @lukemason7842 2 года назад

    Great episode! Classic JHS style this is why I love the JHS show!

  • @davidescozzi9885
    @davidescozzi9885 2 года назад

    That's what I like to hear and watch about pedals. Josh it has a great knowledge, and I find it fascinating to discover the pedal world.

  • @stanislavmigra
    @stanislavmigra 2 года назад +4

    Ringmod sounds like something, that can work crazy good with fuzz.

  • @guitarfeverl.a.8502
    @guitarfeverl.a.8502 2 года назад +4

    Good haircut this week Josh 👶

  • @CovertChaosX
    @CovertChaosX 2 года назад +2

    So good man ... thank you for all these videos. Just always great information

  • @rabidbadger5260
    @rabidbadger5260 2 года назад

    Cheers mate. Modulation is exactly what I'm considering and you cleared up my options.
    I want them all except ring mod.
    Thanks

  • @joshuamessenger
    @joshuamessenger 2 года назад +14

    Will JHS ever make a Phaser pedal? Why hasn't it ever happened?

    • @KYCDK
      @KYCDK 2 года назад +1

      they have though, univibes are phasers, but yeah your right they should make a proper phaser

    • @joshuamessenger
      @joshuamessenger 2 года назад

      @@KYCDK "univibe is actually a phaser, but a phaser is not a univibe. it's maddening" lol. I don't think JHS has made a Flanger yet either. Fingers crossed!

  • @gkol69
    @gkol69 2 года назад +3

    You can buy a Line6 M5 pedal that has the big MM4 modulation pedal "crammed" inside along the other big pedals (Delay, Distortion, Filter modelers) for 120 euros/dollars. It can do one effect at a time but you don't turn on Flanger, Chorus and Phaser together. I bought it for modulation effects. I played with all the modulation types and I found out that the MXR Flanger model "feels" better to what I play distorted and Analog Chorus or Dimension C model for clean. It even has an A/DA Flanger model that the big MM4 doesn't. With a pedal like this you can use what suites the part you're playing plus you have 10 presets to save your favourites.

    • @Graceharris7467
      @Graceharris7467 2 года назад +1

      The M5 is super slept on. It's got great sounds in it. I bought it for the same reasons, and I've been impressed with amount of useable effects in this pedal.

    • @shaynejoseph1527
      @shaynejoseph1527 2 года назад

      "It can do one effect at a time but you don't turn on Flanger, Chorus and Phaser together."
      .....oh.

  • @OneHandedGuitar
    @OneHandedGuitar 2 года назад +1

    Awesome explanation! Thanks for the deep dive.. I’m currently starting to approach the idea of building a board and this helped to clarify the area of modulation. 👍🏻

  • @jamesestrada7956
    @jamesestrada7956 2 года назад +1

    Man, I love the educational content on this channel so much :)

  • @markhammer643
    @markhammer643 2 года назад +25

    Fundamentally flanging and chorusing are the same thing. In each case a copy of the signal is delayed in time by a changing amount, and that time-delayed copy is then combined with the real-time version to produce the effect. *HOWEVER* , by changing the amount of time delay even just a little, it changes our focus of attention. In the case of slightly longer delay-time in chorusing, our attention is focussed on the resulting pitch-shift produced, which creates the illusion of two musicians playing the same thing in almost-but-not-perfect unison. In the case of flanging, the shorter delay time shifts our attention away from the pitch-shifting to the notches produced (Doppler effect), as they get moved around.
    Because of how human perception works, the pitch-shifting would have to be more extreme to be perceptible at very slow speeds. So you'll never find a chorus with a Speed/Rate control that sweeps as slowly as one on a flanger. As well, because our attention is focused on the pitch and not the notches, using feedback in a chorus serves no purpose, so you rarely see them on a chorus pedal.
    All of that said, there IS a zone - a range of delay times - where chorus and flanger overlap, such that some flangers (like the Deluxe Electric Mistress) can produce chorus-like sounds, and some choruses can be nudged to produce flanger-like swirl, depending on the make and its respective design.
    Much like the difference between chorus and vibrato, where a slightly different *shape* of sweep is optimal for each, despite operating off the same basic technology, slower flanging likes a different *shape* of sweep than faster bubbly flanging and chorus.

    • @ikesours6558
      @ikesours6558 2 года назад +3

      The smear of the comb filter is really where the difference lies. However, with some strict chorus pedals, clipping dirt going into them can really make it sound more flange-y. I'm still debating chorus placement because of that, haha.

    • @markhammer643
      @markhammer643 2 года назад +1

      @@ikesours6558 If a tree falls in the forest, and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound? If a comb filter sweeps and there is little spectral content for it to insert notches into, can we hear comb-filtering?
      Flangers always sound more dramatic when the signal being processed covers a large portion of the audible spectrum. The benchmark flanger sounds we love usually involved a mixed-down drum kit and maybe even a little white noise. Similarly, choruses can sound a little more "flange-ey" when their input signal is very busy and covers more of the spectrum. Distortion IS adding more harmonic content to the original signal, so no surprise that the filtering aspects of chorus seem to be more present when the input signal is a little clipped.
      Phasers also create notches, but two or three notches is not really anything one could describe as a "comb". Some phasers will produce up to 6 notches (using 12 stages), but the top 3 notches tend to be wasted on guitars, since there is little spectral content from the guitar "up there". What's rather pointless on guitar, however, can sound delicious on a wider-bandwidth source, like a synth, or organ. A friend once demoed a 24-stage phaser for me, that he had made, using white noise as the signal source, and it sounded VERY flanger-like.
      So why does a flanger - that produces many notches - sound so good on guitar if I say that more than 3 phaser notches is wasted? Easy. The notches prodced by a flanger are more closely spaced together, moving closer together as it produces more notches on the downward sweep. So we can hear them because they are all within the bandwidth of the guitar signal. Phaser notches remain a fixed distance apart. There are ways one can move them closer together, but it generally involves a more complex circuit.
      As for chorus placement in a chain, there are certainly *preferred* positions for achieving more familiar "standardized" tones. But ANY position is musically valid if one is simply interested in producing tones of interest.

    • @1000mg.
      @1000mg. 2 года назад +1

      Thank you dude. Now shut up.

    • @austincox1709
      @austincox1709 2 года назад

      @@1000mg. someone likes talking 😬

    • @dw7704
      @dw7704 2 года назад

      I used a flanger mostly for a chorus sound
      Until I got Roland JC amp
      And used the chorus on that instead

  • @abouc
    @abouc 2 года назад +6

    I'd love to see you do a deep dive on some Source Audio effects like the Ultrawave, Ventris, Kingmaker/Aftershock, and Nemesis. Many of these are excellent options for consolidating your pedalboard due to their ability to store multiple presets.

    • @dahmc59
      @dahmc59 2 года назад +1

      wow, this sounds like an incredible episode coming!

  • @batmanbill1
    @batmanbill1 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for showing the Line 6 MM4. I became aware of it when I was looking for Prince's pedal board. Works very well with Boss pedals and will last forever!

  • @dastuun
    @dastuun 2 года назад +1

    There was no question. I bought a Unicorn. My first JHS pedal. Love it!

  • @srtamplification
    @srtamplification 2 года назад +6

    Yes, I don't consider a Wah pedal a modulated effect. It is just changing the frequency response curve. It is the same as turning the tone control, only it has more range.

    • @VerryBonne
      @VerryBonne Год назад +1

      So, in other words, it modulates the frequency response curve?

    • @srtamplification
      @srtamplification Год назад +1

      @@VerryBonne Well I mean you could say that, but typically modulation of analog signals are either AM such as tremolo and FM such as vibrato. You can set the wah pedal to different positions and change the frequency response curve of the signal, but it is a steady-state change. You have to actively change the pedal position to change the FR. Technically the signal itself is not modulated, just the amount of signal at certain frequencies is changed, it's really just rolled off on the edges.

  • @TerrestrialMack
    @TerrestrialMack 2 года назад +4

    Ring worm and ring thing all day 🔥

  • @Planet.Denver
    @Planet.Denver Год назад

    I come back to this video all the time when I'm Paring my pedals together thank you guys for putting this stuff on the internet lol

  • @dam7ri
    @dam7ri 2 года назад

    I bought the Hyper Phaser, Turbo Flanger, and Chorus Factory from Digitech. Each has 7 modes and really helped me get a better understanding of each effect.

  • @michaelbeaudo6761
    @michaelbeaudo6761 2 года назад +8

    I was always under the impression that the Flanger was specifically invented so Omar Rodriguez Lopez could finish writing the intro to Roulette Dares.... jokes aside though I recently got a EHX Eddy and it is a beautiful analog chorus/vibrato with tons of options. the vibrato has pretty much become an always on pedal for me! worth checking out if youre in the market for one

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 2 года назад +1

      I’ve had an itch to just buy one because it’s not too expensive, and has some cool features. I’m just not sure if I want a straight up Chorus, a Pitch Vibrato or a nice Flanger that can do a basic Chorus sound.

    • @michaelbeaudo6761
      @michaelbeaudo6761 2 года назад

      @@CorbCorbin its switchable between chorus and pitch vibrato with the basic rate and depth functions (it goes from barely on to completely unusable so you can make it sound any way you like really) and its also got an envelope/ lfo function to change the type of waveform. it also has a nice tone and volume that can almost drive your signal like a boost

    • @nintendoor1
      @nintendoor1 2 года назад +1

      Roulette Dares is actually a MoogerFooger Ring Mod! I’ve always wanted one, but they’re crazy expensive now

    • @michaelbeaudo6761
      @michaelbeaudo6761 2 года назад +1

      @@nintendoor1 damn I had no idea thats awesome though I remember seeing those a long time ago online but i havent in years

    • @davemabee5798
      @davemabee5798 2 года назад

      I find the Eddy a little too noisy for my liking.

  • @singlesideman
    @singlesideman 2 года назад +3

    The 1970's: a lotta things happened, but basically modulation happened. I remember it so very well. It was absolutely brilliant. So much ground covered. So much development, so much growth...

  • @rhysevancampbell
    @rhysevancampbell 2 года назад

    Thanks Josh, really good summary. Clears up a lot for me ☺️

  • @simon_patterson
    @simon_patterson 2 года назад +1

    Thank you! Very useful, interesting and informative presentation.

  • @L.Scott_Music
    @L.Scott_Music 2 года назад +3

    SO was a Uni-Vibe the main FX on Pink Floyd's "Have a Cigar"?

  • @kristenvespera4835
    @kristenvespera4835 2 года назад +5

    Modulation pedals are fine by themselves, but modulation pedals with an expression pedal to control the rate is really the best.

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 Год назад

      I feel like it's pretty much de rigueur to have a foot pedal with the effects. You can do way more interesting stuff with it, to the point it feels like the effects pedals on their own are incomplete.

  • @vasararh
    @vasararh 2 года назад

    The ring modulation blew my socks off. I'm getting one for sure

  • @sgriffett541
    @sgriffett541 2 года назад

    thanks Zak... love the hair cut... and thanks for separating the jams from the gear demos... I rock the bass on the J clips but spill my coffee getting set-up during the pedal talk demo vids... have a nice day!

  • @jhneilson
    @jhneilson 2 года назад +6

    Really sad there wasn’t even a mention of tape flange (which, in my opinion, sounds much different than something like the Electric Mistress). Still, great video and explanations

    • @Mark70609
      @Mark70609 2 года назад

      The through zero effect.

    • @johndiloreto3738
      @johndiloreto3738 2 года назад

      Would've also been nice to see something other than the Electric Mistress for flange. Every version of the EM i've ever heard sounds terrible

  • @Saxby8six
    @Saxby8six 2 года назад +9

    JHS is great and all but is Josh out there solving the world's energy crisis like Mike Matthews?

    • @joshallen4848
      @joshallen4848 2 года назад +1

      UFOs may actually be JHS employees coming back from the future to thank Mike Matthews for solving the energy crisis.... I mean, maybe. You can't rule it out.

  • @shadyburnike264
    @shadyburnike264 2 года назад +2

    Finally got my Atradies...l cant get enough of it

  • @xT1Kx
    @xT1Kx 2 года назад

    Always love the intros to these videos 🤘🤘

  • @seanmulcahy6436
    @seanmulcahy6436 2 года назад +3

    I've got a bit crusher pedal which often ends up sounding like ring modulator depending on how it's set. Is there something similar going on? Or just coincidence?

  • @pwoolcoc
    @pwoolcoc 2 года назад +33

    demonstrating tremolo without playing How Soon Is Now? illegal imo

    • @hurrywait
      @hurrywait 2 года назад +6

      And you cry and you want to die?

    • @thetribalist6923
      @thetribalist6923 2 года назад

      Born on the Bayou is my must play for trem.

    • @IrLosin
      @IrLosin 2 года назад

      there is some serious Face pareidolia going on with that pedal. To me it seems content.

    • @scottshelley9528
      @scottshelley9528 2 года назад +1

      @@hurrywait Seems so unfair ...

  • @alimaleki217
    @alimaleki217 2 месяца назад

    This explanation/demo is amazing helpful; thanks!

  • @timothyledford3879
    @timothyledford3879 Год назад

    The years did just go by......Finally.....Thanks for helping. I feel one step closer to enlightenment.

  • @KYCDK
    @KYCDK 2 года назад +4

    i don't like people demoing flanger, you only need to put everything low and you get this nice flowing water sound, to use the electric mistress you gotta keep everything under half way everything should be around 9:00 speed should be less than 9:00 colour should be at 9:00 and range should be over 9:00 by a little bit

    • @zachary963
      @zachary963 2 года назад

      I love using every setting really subtle, and then crank the depth. Lol

    • @KYCDK
      @KYCDK 2 года назад

      @@zachary963 same, thats the best way to do it, you get a nice watery sound, very pink floyd

  • @jimmyparris9892
    @jimmyparris9892 2 года назад +7

    I have just learned that I will never need a ring modulator. It sounds like Ross Geller trying to find his sound.
    Edit: However my favorite modulation is call "octoverb" on the Line 6 Helix

    • @MrKylederp
      @MrKylederp 2 года назад

      A pitch corrected ring modulator is an amazing tool to behold.

  • @whyidontknow7113
    @whyidontknow7113 2 года назад +1

    I never knew that I wanted my guitar to sound like an organ. Thanks JHS.

  • @johngraves2185
    @johngraves2185 Год назад

    Great walk through! Really enjoyed this one and agree with you about the Line 6 pedals, too many people want to hate them, but I still have my DL4.

  • @marcorosella88
    @marcorosella88 2 года назад +4

    Hey there josh, I was wondering if you could make a “chorus” by running a vibrato in parallel with your dry signal? Like using a splitter with a vibrato on one side and your dry signal on the other side, then sum that together into your amp, would that work?

    • @gilibertopaparauchas5959
      @gilibertopaparauchas5959 2 года назад +3

      I aint josh, but Yes you can!! I have done it using two amps and it sounds fantastic, you would need a dry/wet box in order to do it with one amp though, but its possible

    • @Hepnotical
      @Hepnotical 2 года назад +1

      Absolutely

  • @joesmith8398
    @joesmith8398 2 года назад +13

    Josh, how 'bout a Flanger that can get the Andy Summers' chorus sound as well as the "Barracuda" flanger sound ? Thanks ! You could call it the "Andycuda" or the "Barrasummers". Um...er....uh....sorry :-/

    • @deanallen9660
      @deanallen9660 2 года назад

      I bet you'd be happy with the Strymon Deco. Those sounds and more are on the Lag control. Check it out, you might dig it.

    • @joesmith8398
      @joesmith8398 2 года назад

      @@deanallen9660 Oh, cool, thanks for that , I will check it out.

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 2 года назад

      EHX Deluxe Electric Mistress. It's the OG Chorusing Flanger. That's what Summers actually used. I think that Baracuda was recorded with the ADA Flanger (Howard Leese???) But the Mistress can get there.

    • @joesmith8398
      @joesmith8398 2 года назад

      Barracuda was recorded with a one of a kind custom made flanger utilizing Panasonic 4096 chip. That's what Howard Leese said in an interview. Allegedly, one of his former techs now owns that flanger.

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 2 года назад

      @@joesmith8398 I hadn't heard that. I'll take your word for it.

  • @butchlauer
    @butchlauer 2 года назад

    Always helpful, bring the Q soon. 🙂

  • @tylerevans1700
    @tylerevans1700 2 года назад

    I've been waiting for this episode from you subconsciously foreverrrrr.. :) ☮️

  • @suitandtieguy
    @suitandtieguy 2 года назад +3

    FACT CHECK: Leslies do not weigh 1000 pounds, they weigh between 70 and 100 pounds!
    :)

    • @VodkaSelekta
      @VodkaSelekta 2 года назад +1

      It depends what planet you weighed it on but on earth you're right. If you weighed a leslie in the sun it would be 2800 lbs. Leslies can weigh what ever you want as long as you're willing to travel for years through the void of space.

    • @ronmatthews7213
      @ronmatthews7213 2 года назад

      A Leslie 147A Cab weighs 149 pounds

    • @Rogcljon
      @Rogcljon 2 года назад +1

      The Leslie 900s were huge some weighed over 300 pounds

    • @suitandtieguy
      @suitandtieguy 2 года назад

      I own 15 Leslies, guys.

    • @TheRealcdawg22
      @TheRealcdawg22 2 года назад +1

      @@suitandtieguy you don't own mine.

  • @MrAwesomeSaucesome
    @MrAwesomeSaucesome 2 года назад +4

    Chorus is just a cowards vibrato. I'll be In the parking lot if anyone wants to catch these hands over it

  • @proteusswarm7291
    @proteusswarm7291 2 года назад +1

    Please do an episode on ring modulation. Love the show!

  • @jada90
    @jada90 11 месяцев назад

    Literally my answer is "yes" to your very first sentence. I was sitting around wondering what mod to buy, then decided to see if there was a JHS video to help me. Ask and ye shall receive!