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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  2 года назад +823

    If I sound nasally and potentially on the verge of death, it's because I am unfortunate enough to be allergic to Spring and it takes a couple days for the meds to kick in.
    In other news, I look great in that shirt.
    Grab a Majorkill mini here : majorkill.com/
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    • @T-h-a-t_G-u-y
      @T-h-a-t_G-u-y 2 года назад +17

      Ah Australia, where it’s spring when it’s fall (autumn) where I live.

    • @jimbothegymbro7086
      @jimbothegymbro7086 2 года назад +7

      just do some nose sugar it'll clear you right out

    • @flexmusi
      @flexmusi 2 года назад

      Spring? In sweden october is basically start of winter 😂

    • @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
      @dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd 2 года назад

      do lore on ork oddboyz please

    • @milkshakebarrage9581
      @milkshakebarrage9581 2 года назад

      @@flexmusi You are lucky. Here in Balkans in some places, the last few years we had times when mid of December had temps of 28C and 4 days of snow if we are lucky outside of mountains the entire "Winter".

  • @thevoidlookspretty7079
    @thevoidlookspretty7079 2 года назад +3253

    Imperium: “Please lead us!”
    Vulcan: “Friends, I am no leader. I am but a man with two big arms and a bigger hammer. I am only good at hitting things and hugging things.”

    • @captaincoolbreeze9429
      @captaincoolbreeze9429 2 года назад +302

      I just read this in TTS Vulcan's voice.

    • @Drone8900
      @Drone8900 2 года назад +75

      @@captaincoolbreeze9429 Same here

    • @iambumbo7534
      @iambumbo7534 2 года назад +182

      Vulcan: "But in any case, If leading you means more *ZOGGIN' GITZ TO KILL* then i will happily do so."

    • @flaviomonteiro1414
      @flaviomonteiro1414 2 года назад +65

      A leader that I would proudly follow

    • @lightbower5826
      @lightbower5826 2 года назад +17

      @@Drone8900 me too

  • @RAMBOdyykkari
    @RAMBOdyykkari 2 года назад +1502

    To quote Dorn:
    The war of the beast was weird....

    • @chosenofkhorne2951
      @chosenofkhorne2951 2 года назад +59

      I think the new lore is that the first beast was the general who thought against Horus during the great crusade, the second his general the 3 his other general the 4 him surviving some how the 5 his other general than the 6 was the 5 who survived, and 7 was other general yes I know to much Beast but yea, Horus made an mistake to let the first beast to survive the great crusade

    • @RAMBOdyykkari
      @RAMBOdyykkari 2 года назад +14

      @@chosenofkhorne2951 I just remembered that orks are mushroomfaunas. So this actually makes sence.
      Its still weird tho...
      EDIT: DID U JUST QUOTE ALFABUSA OR THE ACTUAL LORE??
      Doesnt mater, I trust Alphabusa, so to me this is Alphabusa reference

    • @chosenofkhorne2951
      @chosenofkhorne2951 2 года назад +23

      Pedro R alphabusa actually based himself also in the lutin episode were he explained the story of an orc who escaped Horus ,when Horus tried to save the emperor but when he came back the body of the orc was gone quite sad that this story is a short story in the emperor of mankind novel and not so famous sadly but yes it's pretty much confirmed that the first Beast was the one who survived against Horus

    • @RAMBOdyykkari
      @RAMBOdyykkari 2 года назад +5

      @@chosenofkhorne2951 Thank you for this info! I honestly thought this part was just pure parody.
      Now it isnt that weird anymore :D
      The war of the beast is still weird tho...

    • @patrik9328
      @patrik9328 2 года назад +5

      Maybe it was weird but it was also awesome!

  • @JohnnyOrc
    @JohnnyOrc 2 года назад +2332

    The Orks: Who managed to do what Failbaddon couldn't do with 13 attempts and 10 000 years: Kill an entire first founding chapter.

    • @doomguy9049
      @doomguy9049 2 года назад +75

      Owned

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 2 года назад +102

      Too bad it was kind of undone.

    • @loganparry2676
      @loganparry2676 2 года назад +55

      Meh he missed one

    • @drnobody1908
      @drnobody1908 2 года назад +7

      @@robertnelson9599 pls give recap

    • @corneal35
      @corneal35 2 года назад +49

      @@robertnelson9599 nah, lets be honest Imperial fist got fucking clapped.

  • @alexr.5389
    @alexr.5389 2 года назад +2821

    Lucifer Blacks are the human guard equivalent to a space marine, they have the best gear, the best training and gene enhancements, while still remaining "human". Custodes are like mini Primarchs so yea... I totally agree with your head canon.

    • @evanlight2550
      @evanlight2550 2 года назад +136

      Don’t Custodes come directly from the Emperor himself?

    • @nobody-sp9ev
      @nobody-sp9ev 2 года назад +31

      Harlequin kiss exists

    • @doomguy9049
      @doomguy9049 2 года назад +221

      @@evanlight2550 each custode is a unique, bespoke creation genetically engineered from infancy by the Emperor unlike the astartes who are mass produced and implanted with artificial organs from external sources. I'm pretty sure they still make new custodes based on the Emperor's original work but the process is totally different from making astartes and much more individually tailored to each custodes candidate. I'm not sure to what extent the Emperor's own DNA or soul essence is involved but I assume it's all directly from him and that there is no Primarch geneseed implantation involved because they're his greatest bodyguards and carry his will+authority and otherwise he'd be risking their betrayal if their Primarch turned against him.
      IMO the fact that there are no psykers among the custodes is interesting though considering the Emperor is the most powerful psyker of all time and geneseed made directly from his DNA alone is used exclusively in the only chapter of space marines made up entirely of psykers(Grey Knights obv), that also boasts arguably the most powerful transhuman psykers in the whole Imperium.

    • @evanlight2550
      @evanlight2550 2 года назад +55

      @@doomguy9049 oh yeah it was the Grey Knights I got mixed up with them coming from the Emperor. My bad. But thanks for the lore details, I honestly didn’t know much about the Custodes

    • @daan626
      @daan626 2 года назад +35

      You know what a Harlequin is right? And a shadowseer? They are the elite of their kind, hand picked by a God and devotes their love to battle. A shadowseer is even more insane then that. They could kill a couple custodians, custodians aren't immortal, they are just elite hand picked by a God devoting their life to battle. The stupid thing about that scene was why the harleys decided that was a good idea

  • @snakething87
    @snakething87 2 года назад +1755

    The fact that Mars was able to reverse-engineer ork tech at all is impressive. Also shows that tech heresy is only a thing when what you make isn’t super badass and beneficial to humanity *cough* Cawl *cough*

    • @Mr.Doodlebob
      @Mr.Doodlebob 2 года назад +149

      I think it was because beast tech was way more advanced and actually functional compared to normal ork tek which is crude but can be used with the help of the waagh, like when yarrick had the mechanicus gut and re engineer his power klaw to be used by him.

    • @ciprianoriveraiii5315
      @ciprianoriveraiii5315 2 года назад +90

      The Mechanicus teleported Ullanor to another star system after the War of the Beast. There it was renamed.... Armageddon.

    • @Mr.Doodlebob
      @Mr.Doodlebob 2 года назад +24

      @@ciprianoriveraiii5315 dun dun duuuuuuuunn

    • @chriskilbride975
      @chriskilbride975 2 года назад +1

      Heretics all... burn in my holy fire for I am the will of the EMPEROR!!!

    • @vaiyt
      @vaiyt 2 года назад

      it's only heretical if you get caught.
      works for everything in the imperium, really

  • @SquashGuy02134
    @SquashGuy02134 2 года назад +2014

    to be fair, the harlequins were only able kill the custodies because none of them were wearing armor and they kept slipping on body oil. Thats my head cannon

    • @custink22
      @custink22 2 года назад +150

      I was hoping someone would say this. Thank you for making me laugh.

    • @suserano7566
      @suserano7566 2 года назад +25

      Thats about right

    • @adamshumate8858
      @adamshumate8858 2 года назад +29

      I get that you’re joking, but I don’t think you understand how dangerous Harlequins are.

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 2 года назад +24

      They are a joke

    • @carloseduardolugon-moulin2211
      @carloseduardolugon-moulin2211 2 года назад +88

      @@adamshumate8858 not very dangerous to ready custodes honestly, if where solitaries the story would be diferent

  • @RogueFox2185
    @RogueFox2185 2 года назад +1210

    The Orks should get a PrimeOrk on their side one of these days, the Imperium has Gulliman and Chaos has their own Primarchs (despite not being much of a factor considering how often they get banished back to the Warp) and I can see a few being spawned after enough time fighting the Nids.

    • @Jack-0-lantern
      @Jack-0-lantern 2 года назад +276

      Or maybe that Krork from Trazyn the Infinite's collection could escape 🤔, an old school Krork from the war in heaven days. Like I could imagine him having a very similar reaction to the current state of his species to the one Guilliman had when he first woke up.

    • @gunnar1846
      @gunnar1846 2 года назад +72

      I mean Gazgul is on his way there.

    • @romeobelisario3190
      @romeobelisario3190 2 года назад +134

      @@gunnar1846 Looking at the Ghaz model, he isn’t actually all that huge, maybe his organic body only being a bit bigger than a Warboss. A lot of his bulk comes from his Warsuit.
      He would need a FAT injection of WAAGH to even come close to Krorks

    • @adamh.4933
      @adamh.4933 2 года назад +75

      By all accounts Ghaz should be as powerful as the Emps babies but GW loves it's Imperium plot armor.

    • @flaviomonteiro1414
      @flaviomonteiro1414 2 года назад +48

      @@adamh.4933 Well Humans sell better than monster and aliens... Now GW should do "War in Heaven 2.0" using giving Orks, and Eldar new models

  • @FirstLast-gk6lg
    @FirstLast-gk6lg 2 года назад +493

    The real time evolution of the Orks relative to the strength of their WAAAAHG is such a great mechanic of the universe. I feel like Orks getting into the warp to enter an endless war with Chaos demons, should revert them back to Korks

    • @Vankodek
      @Vankodek 2 года назад +53

      Wait til you hear about Tuska Daemon-killa

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 2 года назад +29

      @@Vankodek he should be a ultra krork

    • @makilikespies
      @makilikespies 2 года назад +56

      @@durrangodsgrief6503 but tuska's WAAAAHG didn't really grow do they? They just get revived and battle to the death wihout any chance to spread their fungus.

    • @patrik9328
      @patrik9328 2 года назад +10

      Krorks

    • @Jw071
      @Jw071 Год назад +3

      There’s khornate feral orks on Armageddon, and maybe Angron killed Yarrick so there’s definitely material to work with there.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 года назад +223

    0:35 TTS Rogal Dorn: "The War of The Beast was weird."

    • @Madjo-qj2ge
      @Madjo-qj2ge 2 года назад +9

      Rogal saying the biggest understatement

    • @Mr.Doodlebob
      @Mr.Doodlebob 2 года назад +9

      I read it in his voice

  • @Damien_N
    @Damien_N 2 года назад +332

    If the Orks are ever led by a proper Krork again literally everyone will have a bad time.

    • @bjorngylfason7682
      @bjorngylfason7682 2 года назад +25

      Pretty sure the orks would be having a gay old time

    • @cegesh1459
      @cegesh1459 2 года назад +36

      For the first time since the war in heaven. The beast was nothing compared to a Krork.

    • @daluckygit8019
      @daluckygit8019 2 года назад +45

      The krok would quickly shrink to match the environment as the only thing that could've produced enough energy to maintain the krork was the war I heaven

    • @redclayscholar620
      @redclayscholar620 2 года назад +10

      @@bjorngylfason7682 Yabba Dakka Doo!!!

    • @TBM1121
      @TBM1121 Год назад +5

      EXCEPT THE ORKZZZZZZ WAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @snakething87
    @snakething87 2 года назад +524

    I don’t thinks krorks can exist without something leading them. The old ones provided them with tech and a command structure, and once that was gone the in-fighting split the Krorks into clans/ tribes and that was the end because the Waaagh field wasn’t strong enough to maintain krorks.

    • @firmak2
      @firmak2 2 года назад +20

      Welp we can only theorise. They could have had an equiviling to ghazgull

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +50

      The curbstomping by the Eldar Empire didn't help either
      The Beast Orks remembered how the Luna Wolves kicked their arses
      That is why Orks have Six Klans and use White and Black colors

    • @joecarter1486
      @joecarter1486 2 года назад +1

      I thought the grots were officers in the old times.

    • @IsaacClodfelter
      @IsaacClodfelter 2 года назад +3

      I disagree, I think they just need to be united completely to maintain Korks that don't go for each other's eyes.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +4

      The Klans and the black+white paint scheme for Orks did not exist until War of the Beast

  • @samthesith6631
    @samthesith6631 2 года назад +283

    WE ALL SAW THE FIRST UPLOAD
    YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM US

    • @majorkill
      @majorkill  2 года назад +179

      You did not witness my shame, be silent

    • @averagecatenjoyer8219
      @averagecatenjoyer8219 2 года назад +53

      @@majorkill what was wrong with the other video? I watched the whole thing already heh.
      Now tell me what toothpaste you use

    • @forspartaaa2348
      @forspartaaa2348 2 года назад +17

      0:12 who are those twins???

    • @DrazCo88
      @DrazCo88 2 года назад +11

      @@majorkill we all saw it MJK

    • @f.e.areproduce5298
      @f.e.areproduce5298 2 года назад +17

      @@averagecatenjoyer8219 Watch out with saying what you know, Majorkill may use something to make one who knows "Disappear" or worse, stories say that every time person who knows says too much Majorkill takes them and pounds them over the head with a crowbar, their name gets changed into that of "Timmy" to replace one who just got fatally Krumped by Majorkill.
      I hear him pounding my doors with a crowbar, i already said too much, fuck.

  • @t3hgraemek
    @t3hgraemek 2 года назад +167

    I remember the first part of the war of the beast story was actually good up until vulkan dies/disappears. one of the most grimdark scenes was were it was revealed the orks were creating factory farms for humans and were taking out people's teeth and locking them naked in pens like cattle until they were slaughtered for meat and skin leather.
    there was all sorts of new and juicy lore that wasn't really talked about before, like the first loyalist primarch coming back in after they all disapeared, how things were going so well for the imperium at that point in time they were considering defunding the astartes, the origin for lots of current stuff in the lore, etc.

  • @michasalamon8315
    @michasalamon8315 2 года назад +624

    War of the Beast is according to me a prime example of giving an author too much creative freedom.
    Like, GW should made some guideliness, something like Codex Astartes, so that no author can’t suck off his favorite fraction like with the Ultramarines, or grind his least favorite (hated) to shit. Like they did with Imperial Fists, Eldar, Necrons, Tau, Orks. Chaos. You get what I mean.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +36

      Problem was that all the books were written at the same time
      Siege of Terra is better because the next book is written after the previous one is complete
      Gav Thrope read Solar War before he wrote Lost and the Damned

    • @michasalamon8315
      @michasalamon8315 2 года назад +48

      @@christiandauz3742 See? They learned. Either authors themselves or GW told them to read the previous books.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +43

      @@michasalamon8315
      They also fix some numbers from the Old Lore
      In the Old Lore, only 2 Million Guardsmen were on Terra
      In the Siege books, there were over 700 Million
      Keeler herself amasses her own private army (the first army of the Ecclessiarchy)

    • @michasalamon8315
      @michasalamon8315 2 года назад +17

      @@christiandauz3742 True, but they still made few things that people in general are not happy with, like Keeler herself, or Erda, or making Dorn create the Inqusition, or rise of the proto Eccysiarchy so early in the siege, or making Ollanius an immortal, or killing known, liked, or just characters we know are alive in the 41th millenium and bringing them back to life in some ridiculous fashion.
      They are learning, but I think they are trying too hard to connect the M31 to the M41. These should be their own separate stories lines, or origin stories, not the prologues for the M41 characters to have a reference to.
      And beside. Garviel killing Little Horus without even a short duel while he was trapped inside the palace was really so damn anticlimatic that I nearly stopped reading the whole thing.
      I mean. The man was one of the Mournival. He was one of the best. They literally called him little Horus. I didn't even like him as a character and I still think they did him dirty.
      Not to mention killing Kharn and Khan in Mortis, banishing Mortarion from the Siege and making Sigismund become a one punch man.
      This whole Siege of Terra stops looking like a siege with each book and starts to turn into the Loyalist glorification propaganda movie.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +3

      @@michasalamon8315
      Sigismund did defeat several champions in the old Lore
      Khan wasn't involved in the Siege after retaking the spaceport

  • @reillycurran8508
    @reillycurran8508 2 года назад +198

    Worth mentioning that Trazyn has an actual legit Krork in his vault, which I think he said was one of the smaller ones that were kicking about during the war in heaven.
    This Krork was described as standing a foot over The Beast(s) in height and IIRC having even more advanced power armor. People think that Smart Orks would cause all their current equipment to malfunction and fall apart since it all works on the Orks not knowing that it shouldn't work, but The Beast seems to indicate that this is little to no issue compared to what they'd be able to start building instead.

    • @letsplaysvonaja1714
      @letsplaysvonaja1714 2 года назад +33

      Couldn't smart orks just make weapons that actually make sense and then buff those with their waaagh powers?
      Like build an actual vehicle with proper tech and then make it red for a speed boost

    • @weathersama604
      @weathersama604 2 года назад +11

      I dunno how it is now in lore n books but i hate idea of waaagh literally making a metal box with pipe work just like a gun. Colors enhancing speed? That's cool. Ork constructing vehicle and waaagh makes it work even if some stuff isn't properly connected? All for it.
      Guardsman making shooting noises while waving ammo less guns, and orkz are dying becos they believed they still had bullets? Fuck dat

    • @jahrusalem3658
      @jahrusalem3658 Год назад +4

      @@weathersama604 Why do you hate it? It's completely in character for Orks to think gun shaped object + shooting noises = death.

    • @matijasostojic4288
      @matijasostojic4288 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@weathersama604What if they strap flashlights to the Guns And turn them of And on when they "Fire"?
      Would that satisfy You?

    • @matijasostojic4288
      @matijasostojic4288 6 месяцев назад

      I do have a question?
      If the Krork did escape And Got out of the vault then would all the orks in the galaxy or that part of it just instantly get smarter?

  • @soffren
    @soffren 2 года назад +108

    Personal headcannon: There was 1 squad of Krork who got lost in the warp. Of these, only 8 survived. These 8 were the beasts.

    • @ddenozor
      @ddenozor Год назад +21

      beasts are nowhere near Krork levels.

  • @alasiadarthe001actual9
    @alasiadarthe001actual9 2 года назад +185

    Did perturabo write this series? Or maybe he reads it to torture dorn with a smug look on his face?

  • @Ladazotz
    @Ladazotz 2 года назад +187

    would love to see a vid on the kroks in particular. an entire race of perpetually self improving, reality bending green skin primarchs would be fun to watch.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад +6

      Too bad they first lose to the Necrons then the Eldar

  • @mpcrauzer
    @mpcrauzer 2 года назад +291

    Rogal: in his last attempt, Vulcan uses his strenght to push the warboss in one of it generators killing himself in the process and defeating the warboss for good.
    Until It came back.
    With five others.
    The war of the beast was wierd!

  • @theemperorsfinest1196
    @theemperorsfinest1196 2 года назад +45

    "He was called the beast, because that's exactly what is was, a beast!" -Rogal Dorn circa millennium 42

  • @dillonshafer3895
    @dillonshafer3895 2 года назад +94

    I’ve always found it ironic that the war hammer guy signs off with “peace”

    • @joefloggg3257
      @joefloggg3257 2 года назад +5

      Well, a hammer to the face can lead to peace.

  • @deptusmechanikus7362
    @deptusmechanikus7362 2 года назад +25

    Theory is, orks grow stronger by fighting and so their development is stunned by the challenge Galaxy provides. The reason they devolved from Krorks to orks is because since the War in Heavens they faced nothing that would even compare to the conflict they fought. Only appearance of the Emperor, primarchs and custodes caused collective ork psyche to manifest a couple of Krorks to face them

  • @AdrianMartinez-ho6db
    @AdrianMartinez-ho6db 2 года назад +92

    Imagine if they gave us enough visual lore (like actual models and shit) on top of all this and made a movie.

    • @lorisscianna7209
      @lorisscianna7209 2 года назад +4

      Yeah its like gw doesn’t give a shit

    • @AdrianMartinez-ho6db
      @AdrianMartinez-ho6db 2 года назад +17

      @@lorisscianna7209 bruh they literally hate creativity and tryina persecute us fans for making stuff on our own.

    • @custarddemustard2769
      @custarddemustard2769 2 года назад +1

      Keep dreaming

    • @Brandon-vo3cb
      @Brandon-vo3cb Год назад +2

      Hello from the future where Henry Cavill has been given a show.

  • @Rytonic69
    @Rytonic69 Год назад +10

    I genuinely thought the War of the Beast ended with Vulkan's duel against the Beast, had no idea there were like six more of them.

  • @laxo2002
    @laxo2002 2 года назад +291

    Sticking with that Arbites pronunciation I see. I can see this becoming a meme 👍 Good stuff

  • @HoneyBadger1779
    @HoneyBadger1779 2 года назад +215

    The War of the beast is just bad writing all around pre-desired narrative of an 'impending doom' and 'the situation is really dire' without adequate explanations and just really bad plots, and stupid decisions made by the factions and characters.

    • @snoox27
      @snoox27 2 года назад +15

      I got bored by the time it got to all the imperial political bs.

    • @SuperDuperHappyTime
      @SuperDuperHappyTime 2 года назад +11

      That sounds a lot like this game I play. Have you ever heard of Warhammer 40000?

    • @HoneyBadger1779
      @HoneyBadger1779 2 года назад +25

      @@SuperDuperHappyTime
      Funny. GW writing, especially more recent stuff is generally terrible and fan made is better.

    • @mkno2799
      @mkno2799 2 года назад +2

      Sounds a lot like end time from warhammer fantasy.

    • @thomasfrith2162
      @thomasfrith2162 2 года назад +1

      Primarus marines in a army krorcs simple gw getting ready to replace small greenskins

  • @L00ww
    @L00ww 2 года назад +126

    as far as i remember the sisters of silence suppressed the psycic abilities of the ork weirdboys and as soon as they die or retreat very fast the weirdboys regain their full psycic abilites too fast which affected all surrounding orks due to their connection through the warp/waagh-energy.
    not too complex i think

  • @fellowsoliderofchrist2263
    @fellowsoliderofchrist2263 2 года назад +53

    Okay here’s a theory what if the Beasts escaped from Trayzin’s collection as it isn’t a huge stretch to think Trayzin would have more than 1 Krork.

    • @jahrusalem3658
      @jahrusalem3658 Год назад +4

      Pretty sure he's stated to have a Krork.

    • @KincaidCalder-vn6bo
      @KincaidCalder-vn6bo 7 месяцев назад

      Honestly if Trazyn ever gets in a mischevious mood, then the galaxy is over.

  • @manuelvillar8424
    @manuelvillar8424 2 года назад +88

    Whoever wrote this was clearly fan of Perti and his Iron Warriors

  • @sarnicholas4053
    @sarnicholas4053 2 года назад +28

    I always thought the Last Wall Protocol was pretty badass and a good response for a primarch that **never** liked the idea of splitting up his legion.
    Side note, I'm like 100% sure that the Supreme Grand Master of the Dark Angels has a roughly analogous contingency plan in place for the unforgiven (Not much of a stretch considering how close they all are). Looking forward to the First Host Protocol when the Lion makes his return 8).

    • @kgfalcon9394
      @kgfalcon9394 2 года назад +2

      The Ultramarines also have one. They brought back the entire chapter and all successors to assault the Night Lord's home planet outside the Astronimican

    • @RaithSienar
      @RaithSienar Год назад

      Any sane reasonable 1st Founding Chapter should have one, Guilliman just said that that amount of power should never unilaterally rest in the hands of one man, not that it shouldn't be able to be assembled. I mean sure, you could argue that a few dozen chapters working together under a single commander is no different from a legion, but those chapters would still have their own leadership structure and could chose to bail if they so wanted to, Last Wall Protocol be damned.

  • @TheHorreK2
    @TheHorreK2 2 года назад +18

    My head canon for the beast is that there were some Krorcs kept somewhere in stasis, perhaps even by the old ones that fled the milky way (before they probably kicked lf the tyranids) and that they were send to pave the way.
    Or Trazyn had a big laugh and he originally had more than 1 Krorc in his collection

  • @magicmanscott40k
    @magicmanscott40k 2 года назад +30

    This makes me want to get the books after watching this. It sounds like a huge clusterfuck of a war but any war with orks is fun as hell.

  • @marceloasensiofilho3833
    @marceloasensiofilho3833 2 года назад +15

    It is possible that the harlequins who invaded the palace where a group of soltaires. Those guys are OP and if there where a squad of those it would be very hard to deal with

  • @jumpstrart7
    @jumpstrart7 2 года назад +28

    To quote TTS, the war of the beast was weird.

  • @abdullahirfan9991
    @abdullahirfan9991 Год назад +3

    Rogal: the war of the beast was weird
    Meanwhile vulkan during said war: *thats it, I'm getting me mallet*

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin1 2 года назад +10

    14:13 Probably the best w40k art there is. The Iron Cage Marine wins all my awards.

  • @thirstyserpent1079
    @thirstyserpent1079 2 года назад +6

    Imperial Fist "We are a chapter with a long distinguished continuous history dating back to the earliest days of the Imperium Of Man"
    Also the Imperial Fist, their entire chapter dies and they pretend it never happened

  • @ashton7742
    @ashton7742 2 года назад +8

    I was scared for I second when I clicked on the old notification and saw it was privated

  • @davebowman9000
    @davebowman9000 2 года назад +28

    I personally believe The Beast and subsequent Beasts evolved from all the fighting the Orks did during the Great Crusade

  • @kevinbaumhoer7359
    @kevinbaumhoer7359 2 года назад +16

    "The War of the Bea
    st was Weird" Bob the Builder in M42

  • @bluedog843
    @bluedog843 2 года назад +50

    Also just to mention that the amount of dead in recorded numbers is roughly the same as the amount killed in the First World War. Good writing.

  • @dylanfox2928
    @dylanfox2928 2 года назад +6

    The beast: *dies*
    Orks: There is another

  • @l.o.r.esci-fi4896
    @l.o.r.esci-fi4896 2 года назад +117

    Could it be possible that the Beast is one of the Krorks that Trazyn has? You know finding a way to escape at some point, or because of some stasis Failures? Because it is even proven that some Necron Technology are known to Fail.

    • @sebastianmaggart3878
      @sebastianmaggart3878 2 года назад +3

      I concur with that theory

    • @l.o.r.esci-fi4896
      @l.o.r.esci-fi4896 2 года назад +9

      @@sebastianmaggart3878 Indeed, it Could be Possible that when Trazyn and his Dynasty woke up. The Tomb World needed a Reset, this could be possible by The Tomb world Waking up the in Stasis Necrons whilst Affecting some of those in Trazyn's Personal Collections.

    • @notdoomguy1616
      @notdoomguy1616 2 года назад +16

      The whole thing is so ridiculously stupid and stupidly ridiculous. "The Beast" apparently died like 3 or 4 times, each time coming back larger than before.
      And that wasn't even the 'main' beast. The one Vulkan fought was said to be "about 10 meters tall", making it literally almost the size of a Krok. Then it grew bigger.
      And then there were six more. One of them apparently even towering over the other beasts?

    • @cegesh1459
      @cegesh1459 2 года назад +6

      No. Impossible. The beast was smaller, Walker and not as intelligent as a Krork.

    • @heathermillsphantomlimb9314
      @heathermillsphantomlimb9314 2 года назад +8

      @@l.o.r.esci-fi4896 Or, you could simplify it even further and theorize that Orikan broke in and turned off the stasis generators just hoping it would wreck Trazyn’s other exhibits and piss him off. He probably had no idea what it was, and just saw it as a big monster that could cause some damage. But instead, it escaped. It’s not like he hasn’t done it before and it’s also not like their feud hasn’t already cost the lives of billions of people.

  • @garrettmastantuono8043
    @garrettmastantuono8043 2 года назад +13

    I had been lacking a massive cavern of lore for the war of the beast from when Arch stopped halfway in. Thank you so much for filling me in. I can also see why he stopped halfway in 😂. Keep up the great work Majorkill

  • @kanseiyamazaru435
    @kanseiyamazaru435 2 года назад +9

    I remember when Arch tried to do a lore series on this. He not so subtly rage quit after the Harlequins started killing Custodes.

    • @magicmanscott40k
      @magicmanscott40k 2 года назад

      That's fair

    • @micalf5
      @micalf5 2 года назад

      How fragile a person he must be xD

    • @emeraldblack842
      @emeraldblack842 2 года назад +6

      @@micalf5 To be fair this lore is written worse than my high school reading class essays. I would rage quit too.

    • @thespecter6416
      @thespecter6416 2 года назад +3

      @@micalf5 Of course a roastie is the Elder fan

    • @micalf5
      @micalf5 2 года назад

      @@thespecter6416Ouch! How You wound me so! However shall I recover from such a devastating burn inflicted upon me by your wicked and spurn filled words?! Woe truly is me on this, a most bitter day!
      Histrionics aside - not actually an elder fan by any stretch, collected Witch Hunters/Sisters of Battle back in the day if you’re interested. Just amused by all the incensed nerd rage in the comments section.
      So you have a nice day now

  • @hurlock24
    @hurlock24 2 года назад +7

    "WTF WHO WROTE THIS?" is the most ironic statement I've ever heard when describing Warhammer writing

  • @HasvenWorld
    @HasvenWorld 2 года назад +5

    I imagine the attack moon over terra being a perfect hemisphere after it only half teleported. Like a perfectly clean slice down the middle.

  • @butHomeisNowhere___
    @butHomeisNowhere___ 2 года назад +39

    "Kinda Incestual.. but you are a beast!"
    Cracked up

    • @mattroxursoul
      @mattroxursoul 2 года назад

      That is hardly fair, not like it is your set of twin sisters.. and even then maybe Wincest?

  • @scottdodge6979
    @scottdodge6979 2 года назад +28

    I thought this bit of lore was poorly written but I now just simply dont care. It's a cool bit of 40k lore
    Hopefully it gets some attention in the future.

  • @Coyotebriggs
    @Coyotebriggs 2 года назад +23

    It will never not be infuriating how some writers do the Custodes so dirty, you have on one end, a Custodes losing half his face and still fighting, and THEN you have some that make a unarmored chaos marine punch a hole through one and kill him.

  • @MonsieurPopu
    @MonsieurPopu 2 года назад +33

    Awh man, i liked the uncut uncensored version better

  • @GreaterGrievobeast55
    @GreaterGrievobeast55 2 года назад +17

    2:45 honestly with those insectoids mentioned earlier on in the video, it kind of reminds of this idea of feeding a smaller tyranid fleet a whole bunch of xeno bug races the imperiums defeated before like the mega arachnids to see what happens. Still very curious as to why the beast showed up and if that shits ever gonna happen again!

  • @thatvillainjay
    @thatvillainjay 2 года назад +9

    "Having a primarch in your army is a huge vibe."

  • @trevorday7923
    @trevorday7923 2 года назад +27

    Okay, that little animation works well with the live to slideshow transition. Looking good 👍🏻

  • @buzzlightyearpfp7641
    @buzzlightyearpfp7641 Год назад +1

    you can tell how much the lore has changed since then with how easily everything in the imperium dies from custodes to chapter masters to even entire armies of elite forces/space marines in an instant

  • @IanHall43
    @IanHall43 2 года назад +7

    If the power level of the Orks scale with their enemy, it shouldn’t be that weird when during the great crusade that the imperium curb stomping almost everything that the orks would start to become more powerful.

  • @URKCEHinoSuu
    @URKCEHinoSuu 2 года назад +7

    Hey Major, I quite like this new edit. Much better and more in sync than the previous one 👍

  • @jadeimingan184
    @jadeimingan184 2 года назад +8

    Cant wait for GW to make an orc version of the Emperor to appear and make Guilliman roll on his head

  • @guyver441
    @guyver441 2 года назад +3

    5:45 "The high lords erupted into chaos..."
    *visualizes spikes, blood, and warp energy exploding out of the Imperial Palace dudes*

  • @haylongwang3002
    @haylongwang3002 2 года назад +5

    My favorite Primarch man, the big green behemoth deserves to return!

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад

      Magnus would have permanently killed Vulkan if it weren't for a Salamander shielding his Primarch, taking the fatal blow himself

  • @JWootton
    @JWootton 2 года назад +10

    Commenting for the algorithm

  • @dabestchris18
    @dabestchris18 2 года назад +3

    You’re killing it MajorKill with these videos, love it !!

  • @MrHellsing76
    @MrHellsing76 2 года назад +3

    Arch said it best.
    "If I had to re-read the war of the beast, I would more gladily drown myself in a lake."

  • @somethinglikethat2176
    @somethinglikethat2176 2 года назад +8

    I guess Trazyn's house of mysteries could explain where they came from. It wouldn't be a particularly good explanation but he has everything there, even a Krork.
    Edit: Actually scratch that. The Imperium being almost taken down by due to collateral damage from him and Orikan fucking about could be funny as hell if written right.

  • @chriswolfe403
    @chriswolfe403 2 года назад +7

    Since you seem keen on head canon, I have always imagined my blood axes as having possessed a tad of the Brain Boy in them. Like if Caesar and his crew from Planet of the Apes were green

  • @CoolCraftCool
    @CoolCraftCool 2 года назад +7

    I like to go with its Trazyn fault one of his display pieces has malfunctioned and let out a set of if not Krorks then at least Prime Orks from just after the war in heaven ended but well before they fully devolved with even 10 dreadnought sized Orks running around the others would shape up of get stomped flat very easy to have a quick turn around in a might makes right society when your 8 foot taller than everyone else and probably stacking a metric ton of extra muscle.

  • @Thevoidconsumesall
    @Thevoidconsumesall 2 года назад +3

    3 plates actually ain't bad. Good shit Majorkill

  • @foogrot
    @foogrot 2 года назад +4

    Nice work man, like the new intro animation. Killing it Majorkill, your a beast.

  • @discokillaman2
    @discokillaman2 2 года назад +17

    This was the first series of warhammer I read honestly did not get anything about a primork from the book just sounded like a big ork in power armor lol best parts were the traitor marine chapters for sure

  • @aaronsouthard8366
    @aaronsouthard8366 2 года назад +2

    Rewatching this vid and the most ironic bit is that the only *real* imperial fists now are the original primaris delivery batch of them. That have been in storage this whole time

  • @simonpark843
    @simonpark843 Год назад +1

    I haven't played 40K since version 2 in the 1990's...but I've always loved the setting more than any other fictional universe I know of. These videos are enjoyable, thanks for making them.

  • @thetaz31
    @thetaz31 2 года назад +3

    Dude the new animation for "lets get into it" fits so perfect! Keep up the epic work.

  • @thomascrabtree
    @thomascrabtree 2 года назад +3

    The Necrons have time displacement weapons, so perhaps to win the War in Heaven they just spammed a few Krork into the future and we ended up with the War of the Beast in 40K.

    • @TheChiconspiracy
      @TheChiconspiracy 2 года назад

      And yet how often do they use them? They either are rare, hard to use, or the Necrons are too stupid to make proper use of them.

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows 4 месяца назад +2

    I do imagine there are still Krorks out there, plannin'...

  • @idioticlemon9424
    @idioticlemon9424 2 года назад +9

    That was very nice.
    But i wonder on what happened to vulkan afterwards, i mean, he will come back eventually

  • @quahodron2756
    @quahodron2756 2 года назад +6

    "Gothic" in sense of "High Gothic" is the WH40K Counterpart to ancient roman Latin.
    "Low Gothic" is therefor, in this comparison, more like modern italian, french or romanian.
    But one might better think of High gothic as Latin at the peak of roman civilisation and Low Gothic as a successor language at the dark ages (at the beginning of the medieval age), when there were not even more commonly known words for a lot of the roman achievements, buildings, ideals, ideas and philosophies.

  • @rnp497
    @rnp497 2 года назад +14

    Fuckin love Orcs. They are the least changed of all the factions from the very first edition of Warhammer 30K. They are the funny, OP, non-logical bolter waving unaffected by any culture changes

  • @Murdolph
    @Murdolph 2 года назад +2

    I'm currently on book 2 of The Beast series. Its super fun so far. Going to have to add this video to watch later to avoid spoilers.

  • @yanomamo89
    @yanomamo89 2 года назад +3

    “The War of the Beast was weird.” - Rogal Dorn

  • @sketter1775
    @sketter1775 2 года назад +4

    Great vid! In the spirit of Orktober, ever thought of making a video on the absolute giga chad that is Tuska Daemon Killa?

  • @coriganbemis7144
    @coriganbemis7144 6 месяцев назад +1

    Do an episode on the theory that each Chaos God DIDN'T get the primarch they truly desired. AND delve into who it was they wanted and why and how the Horus Heresy might have changed

  • @Overlord99762
    @Overlord99762 2 года назад +1

    Intelligent Ork: Gentlemen, I come representing the esteemed Boyz, we offer unto thee the opportunity of a peaceful resolution to these unfortunate circumstances of conflict. Surrender now.
    High Lords: HOLY SHIT IT SPEAKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @havochaos9790
    @havochaos9790 2 года назад +3

    I loved the war of the beast series. By far my favorite set of books

  • @LoFi_Sinner95
    @LoFi_Sinner95 2 года назад +4

    Man I hope actual Krorks make a come back someday.

    • @KincaidCalder-vn6bo
      @KincaidCalder-vn6bo 7 месяцев назад

      From the little I know, the lowliest krork is on par with a single primarch in power, and can boost the strength of all other orks. While cool, it would unfortunately destabilize the power balance in 40K.

  • @un0riginal539
    @un0riginal539 11 месяцев назад

    Lord Commander Slaughter is the coolest nickname given to a character just for that guy to get Krumped for like no reason

  • @efaristi9737
    @efaristi9737 2 года назад +2

    wow, Arlequins have a very... unique definition of "sending a friendly message". XD

  • @spminty8170
    @spminty8170 2 года назад +7

    My theory on how the primeork came to be, it started when an ork went into a paint factory where he fall into a big bucket of rainbow paint and thats how the primeork was born, and so as the bleak colours of many hive cities

  • @dominator627
    @dominator627 2 года назад +7

    Give me vulkan back in 40k😭😭😭

  • @berserkerrex4411
    @berserkerrex4411 Год назад +2

    Personally I think it would be most likely for an Ork to evolve back into a Krork through constant battle waged against the Tyranids. We already know from other 40k lore that Orks that survive battles get bigger stronger and more intelligent, and be have documented accounts where the Orks and Tyranids have engaged in all out war before with both sides becoming stronger from it. So in my mind it's not too far out of the realm of possibility that if Ghazghkull Thraka were to lead his WAAAGH! forces against a Hive fleet of Tyranids, it is a possibility that the constant battle of Orks and Tyranids could be the final catalyst needed for Ghazghkull Thraka to evolve to the stage of a Krork.
    The second point to be made here is, whether the Krork were truly as bloodthirsty as one might expect. Now Imperial records regarding the era known as the Dark Age of Technology are scarce to say the least. But for us to have no information, logs or even rumors of humanity getting into any fights with Orks is a little strange to me. Of course there is always the possibility that humanity's technology was simply so advanced they had planetary fungicide that would simply eradicate all Ork spores and beings on a planet in seconds. However, there's also the possibility that the Krork still existed during the Dark Age of Technology, just likely very segmented as a civilization following the Enslaver plague, and had something of a diplomatic relationship with humanity during this era. We have seen the Orks show diplomatic efforts of a kind in the Beast saga where Grots would run around telling people to surrender, but in the context of the Orks this is a huge diplomatic stepping stone as compared to simply butchering everything without a care. So if we are to imagine that the Krork were to be significantly more developed both physically and mentally than even an Ork Warboss like Ghazghkull Thraka, and with military cunning on par with or surpassing the greatest Imperial strategists of the 42nd millenia, it's not too far a leap to imagine the Krork could believed in the idea of democracy or at least the formation of alliances when the situation called for it.

  • @erdnalickeroftoads2143
    @erdnalickeroftoads2143 Год назад

    I was very thrilled about the entire video up until the last 15-20 seconds 🫠

  • @azmiraclegirl441
    @azmiraclegirl441 2 года назад +8

    It's crazy that they matched Vulcan in physical combat. He's the strongest primarch barring maybe Ferrus

  • @t.s.7166
    @t.s.7166 2 года назад +10

    I like the Harlequins killing custodes simply because it makes the Eldar look bad ass. The custodes have had their fair share of bad ass moments, xenos could use a few

    • @ethanhall2655
      @ethanhall2655 2 года назад +3

      That’s a fair opinion, but Custodies are supposed to be like a Space Marine, TO a Space Marine. It would be like 50 Harlequins to one custodian, and even that would show the skill of the Eldar’s finest.

    • @majorkill
      @majorkill  2 года назад +1

      If it had showed them fending off custodies or maybe they are able to kill one through team work that would have been just as impressive without going against the established lore

    • @anari234
      @anari234 2 года назад +1

      @@ethanhall2655 No, Harlequins are the best eldar fighters with the possible exception of incubus. Death Jesters are better than custodes 1 on 1, not including solitaires or the Harlequins defending the black library.

    • @TheChiconspiracy
      @TheChiconspiracy 2 года назад +1

      @@anari234 Yet even the author admitted he made a mistake with that idiotic scene. The Harlequins should NOT be slaughtering dozens of Custodes like they are a bunch of PDF troopers.

  • @quynlanvuorensyrja5484
    @quynlanvuorensyrja5484 2 года назад +1

    I couldn’t help but crack up at the image of an Ork of all things looking at the high lords and thinking “How the zog do these gits rule anything?”

  • @thecommentguy9380
    @thecommentguy9380 2 года назад +4

    my head canon on why the Big E's walking bananas got one shot: cegorach be pranking

  • @andrewharper1609
    @andrewharper1609 2 года назад +3

    I can help out with the War of the Beast since the author was basing his writing from ideas I originated. At the time the only available source material I had for the Custodes was the original Rogue Trader book Custodes were S4 T4 W2 with a 90% chance of turning up in mesh armour, 5% carapace armour and 5% power armour. Against that context the Harlequins' attack stands a better chance. Old profiles, old armour and the author that did the write up obviously didn't upgrade them.
    I'm an ork player in the context of 40k and I was a bit sick of hearing and seeing overpowered Space Marines would just rock up and kill everything with barely a scratch. A little like the virus grenade wargear card from 2nd Edition that Games Workshop didn't playtest adequately and they have permission in White Dwarf for players to literally tear up. If you make a faction so overpowered it can just instakill most of it's opponents in armour they can barely breach what's the point in having a game. The killing off of the Imperial Fisted, sorry, fists was for two reasons the old Flame publishing book Space Marine had the Fists recruiting from Necromunda as a crusading chapter so they had to leave the walls of Terra at some point. I have always disliked their yellow armour too simply because it sticks out like a smacked thumb on just about any background you care to place it against. If you look at the history of the British army when they wore bright red overcoats they got sniped. A lot. Thus I kind of feel that they were asking for it, especially when you what the losses they would have taken during the Siege of Terra.
    If I remember Ullanor rightly the Mechanicum scoured the planet before the triumph however that was just one planet in the system not the entire system and it was clearly on the Orks ' migration route. That's the thing about orks, even if you kill them all the spores will just repopulate and the tribes look to recruit wildmobz and they come back with more boyz. This was echoed in the idea of there being more than one beast.
    I hope that helps.

  • @wursthaendler2825
    @wursthaendler2825 2 года назад +5

    legends were here 30min earlier

  • @user-zr7zo8lx2b
    @user-zr7zo8lx2b 9 месяцев назад

    We seem to forget that there were at least a few krocks around during the emperor's first great crusade. When he and Horus ran into several if them and Horus thought they were gonna kill the Emperor, before the emperor kame hame haaa'd the shit out of them and then tossed the core of the planet into the warp. Now THATS BEAST.

  • @mamacintable
    @mamacintable 2 года назад +13

    I mostly shut off my brain and tried to enjoy the series, but how dafuq did the Sisters of Silence survive and maintain their numbers while in seclusion for a few thousand years?

    • @54032Zepol
      @54032Zepol 2 года назад +1

      Cloning?? Maybe idk

    • @magicmanscott40k
      @magicmanscott40k 2 года назад

      They might have long life spans like custodes

    • @t3hgraemek
      @t3hgraemek 2 года назад +2

      there was lots of cool shit in the series but I also way too much deus ex machina bullshit. I was just happy to see the xenos be a major threat for once instead of chaos for the 1000th time

    • @noodlelova3
      @noodlelova3 2 года назад

      They have they're own breeding slaves.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 года назад +11

    I recall that the Krorks are way taller than The Beast who would be like the runt to them.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 года назад

      Yet the Necrons defeated them. Then the Eldaemr curbstomp the Kroks