When Bach "pulled out all the stops", he ended up with the opening of the St. Matthew Passion, in which he had 2 duelling choirs singing different melodies entirely, and then brings in this chorale melody "O Lamm Gottes Unschuldig" on top of the writhing sea of counterpoint, using a further choir, of boy's voices, singing clearly out over the top. And yes, a lot of rhythmic interest in that one also.
Thank you for continuing this series, I think there are not many things we can do as musicians which are as valuable as studying Bach. The amazing thing about this piece is the opening couple of bars are practically Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, but as you point out he takes this incredibly basic given melody and transforms it into stunningly beautiful music without compromising the original melody at all.
Just saw this video and how you can so clearly and memorably show us what happens in the mus8c to create the sound. I think the first time I really felt the power of the multiple suspensions was in hearing Bach's Passacaglia and fugue in c Minor- near the end of the fugue when the soprano and alto descend a kind of ladder of suspensions. I was about 12 at the time and I just had to ind out how he nade that sound happen. Thank you for dredging up that memory with your forbidden dietary aside. I'm still smiling.
I've been practicing your sequences you highlighted iin a recent video, and noticed with the Jupiter there is a V7 4/2. I'm learning the voice leading, and would like to thank you for helping all of your students. You are a masterful teacher, even without the chocolate.
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I really enjoyed and just finished and good chocolate bite when you mentioned it😆much thanks! It's a great lesson! I always love learning music! Cheers ✨🕊️🎻
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Gorgeous. Some of those harmonies are very modern sounding. In the fourth bar, for example, the D serves as both a passing note to the C and an extension in the resulting chord. In other words a C add 9
I love this series mining the riches of Bach. It's a deliberate and painstaking effort for me to find ways of creating harmonic and rhythmic interest in rather plain melodies, but for Bach it seems to be part of his way of musical thinking. Of course, having to crank out massive amounts of music each week probably helped him internalize approaches and techniques at which tyros like me can only wonder.
Thanks again Gareth for this whole series. I've been a huge JS Bach fan since childhood, but only recently have developed enough music theory to follow your analysis. It really illuminates the things that I've always loved about Bach, and it's amazingly fulfilling to finally understand them.
Once again, a delightful dessert at the end of a chilly day. Bach, in a paltry four measures, shows us (mere mortals) how a master can take a block of stone and carve it into a pieta.
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1always played predominately modal (irish & english) music, but LONGED for that bach flavoring which i perceived as endless modulation. my ear never developed to those brilliant tensions and subtleties that you manage to spell out for me. maybe next life i'll work on those. thanks!
I'm allergic to chocolate, but I still enjoyed your analogy. :) Another wonderful analysis, thank you. You've given me a much greater appreciation for Bach's genius.
Thank you for this series. I've gotten into the habit, with thanks to you, of playing Bach's 4 Part Chorales as the first musical thing I do on my piano each day. I use the newer Charles Sanford Terry edition for the larger print. Which do you use?
Sir, I have been following your lessons for a couple of months. The way you explain music theory is so beautiful. Please take care of your health, I've noticed a sudden drop in your body fat percentage. I'm a little worried. Love from India
Thank you so much for all the work you put into your videos! I wonder if you got all your knowledge mainly from books, a friend/teacher or your own analysis.
Your videos are all incredibly helpful! Would you be interested in making a video in either this or the composers insight series regarding the way that Bach composed solo violin/cello suites? (I'd love to see your insight on some of the chamber music by Shostakovich too, but I get the impression that his music is not your cup of tea!)
That’s so funny, I was just thinking it was like decadent chocolate before you said it 😂 I’m on a diet too. You can still enjoy a good dark chocolate bar from time to time. 😉
There's a 9-8 suspension in the first bar, isn't there? In the tenor, C to B-flat, resolving at the same moment as the 4-3 suspension in the alto. Right?
You didn't mention that the E flat-D suspension in the alto of the first full bar is accompanied by a C-B flat suspension in the tenor, giving a double suspension.
Another wonderful lesson. I am an intermediate level pianist and have not played Bach chorales before. I suppose it is ok to play a tenor note with the thumb of the right hand when there is a large gap between the bass and tenor like in the cadence at the end of the second phrase?
@@MusicMattersGB I'd love to understand why you think that 🤔. They aren't immortalised ear-worms and the rules are so constraining, you wind up with hymns and Christmas Songs that sound almost identical, which is why I think composers evolved.
They are absolutely beautiful pieces of work with rich harmony making highly skilled use of inessential notes and suspensions offering a basis on which so much future writing evolved.
I used to sing alto, now soprano… I miss singing alto especially when we sing Bach because it is just so intricate and beautiful. It brings me joy even (or especially) when it is so difficult and I hear all the other parts moving around me. Thank you for this. I wish I could play the piano.
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When Bach "pulled out all the stops", he ended up with the opening of the St. Matthew Passion, in which he had 2 duelling choirs singing different melodies entirely, and then brings in this chorale melody "O Lamm Gottes Unschuldig" on top of the writhing sea of counterpoint, using a further choir, of boy's voices, singing clearly out over the top. And yes, a lot of rhythmic interest in that one also.
Absolutely
Bach's chorale harmony is so many times heartfelt, especially when one considers the text.
Absolutely.
Thank you for continuing this series, I think there are not many things we can do as musicians which are as valuable as studying Bach. The amazing thing about this piece is the opening couple of bars are practically Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, but as you point out he takes this incredibly basic given melody and transforms it into stunningly beautiful music without compromising the original melody at all.
Absolutely
Just saw this video and how you can so clearly and memorably show us what happens in the mus8c to create the sound.
I think the first time I really felt the power of the multiple suspensions was in hearing Bach's Passacaglia and fugue in c Minor- near the end of the fugue when the soprano and alto descend a kind of ladder of suspensions. I was about 12 at the time and I just had to ind out how he nade that sound happen. Thank you for dredging up that memory with your forbidden dietary aside. I'm still smiling.
That C minor is a fabulous work
I've been practicing your sequences you highlighted iin a recent video, and noticed with the Jupiter there is a V7 4/2. I'm learning the voice leading, and would like to thank you for helping all of your students. You are a masterful teacher, even without the chocolate.
That’s most kind.
Another JSB fan here. I very much enjoy watching your analyses. Thank you very much.
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I really enjoyed and just finished and good chocolate bite when you mentioned it😆much thanks! It's a great lesson! I always love learning music! Cheers ✨🕊️🎻
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Gorgeous. Some of those harmonies are very modern sounding. In the fourth bar, for example, the D serves as both a passing note to the C and an extension in the resulting chord. In other words a C add 9
It’s tremendous music.
I love this series mining the riches of Bach. It's a deliberate and painstaking effort for me to find ways of creating harmonic and rhythmic interest in rather plain melodies, but for Bach it seems to be part of his way of musical thinking. Of course, having to crank out massive amounts of music each week probably helped him internalize approaches and techniques at which tyros like me can only wonder.
All true.
Thanks again Gareth for this whole series. I've been a huge JS Bach fan since childhood, but only recently have developed enough music theory to follow your analysis. It really illuminates the things that I've always loved about Bach, and it's amazingly fulfilling to finally understand them.
Brilliant to have you on the journey
pure beauty, great genius! Thank you for the analysis!
Fabulous music
Once again, a delightful dessert at the end of a chilly day. Bach, in a paltry four measures, shows us (mere mortals) how a master can take a block of stone and carve it into a pieta.
Absolutely
I’m doing your grade 1 theory course right now. You’re awesome sir, thank you.
That’s most kind. Enjoy the rest of the course.
@@MusicMattersGB I will be doing the rest of the music theory courses as well. Looking forward to the journey.
Excellent. Enjoy!
Thank you! 😀
A pleasure. Hope you’re well.
There comes a point when the harmony becomes the tune.
Certainly the two can often interact as one.
Always good to go back to BACH !
Absolutely
I hit the like button on your videos prior to watching them. I do this without an iota of fear or regret.
That’s most kind
Thank you for the analysis. Inspiring!
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"Bass with a cold" XD
I can sing this bass part most mornings, but not most evenings! Note that it doesn't go very high at all, either.
That’s true.
Bass with a cold - hilarious :-) Thanks as always for an informative video.
A pleasure.
1always played predominately modal (irish & english) music, but LONGED for that bach flavoring which i perceived as endless modulation. my ear never developed to those brilliant tensions and subtleties that you manage to spell out for me. maybe next life i'll work on those. thanks!
Go for it!
can you make a video on how to change moods in a piece
Okay
I'm allergic to chocolate, but I still enjoyed your analogy. :) Another wonderful analysis, thank you. You've given me a much greater appreciation for Bach's genius.
Glad it’s helpful
Excellent !... like always.
Thank you
Thank you for this series. I've gotten into the habit, with thanks to you, of playing Bach's 4 Part Chorales as the first musical thing I do on my piano each day.
I use the newer Charles Sanford Terry edition for the larger print. Which do you use?
That’s great. Terry is good. I tend to use Reimenschneider.
Sir, I have been following your lessons for a couple of months. The way you explain music theory is so beautiful. Please take care of your health, I've noticed a sudden drop in your body fat percentage. I'm a little worried. Love from India
Thanks for your message. The weight loss is intentional so please don’t worry. All is well.
Thank you so much for all the work you put into your videos! I wonder if you got all your knowledge mainly from books, a friend/teacher or your own analysis.
Thank you. It’s a mixture of a lifetime of study, reading and personal analysis
Your videos are all incredibly helpful! Would you be interested in making a video in either this or the composers insight series regarding the way that Bach composed solo violin/cello suites? (I'd love to see your insight on some of the chamber music by Shostakovich too, but I get the impression that his music is not your cup of tea!)
We could do that - and Shostakovich too!
@@MusicMattersGB That would be amazing!
That’s so funny, I was just thinking it was like decadent chocolate before you said it 😂
I’m on a diet too. You can still enjoy a good dark chocolate bar from time to time. 😉
There is hope!
Twinkle-twinkle😜🎶
😀
There's a 9-8 suspension in the first bar, isn't there? In the tenor, C to B-flat, resolving at the same moment as the 4-3 suspension in the alto. Right?
That’s correct. Double suspension
At 11:30 I think you mis-spoke; you say the I chord in the second bar is in root position, but it looks to me like first inversion.
Yes you’re right it’s I in first inversion. Well spotted.
You didn't mention that the E flat-D suspension in the alto of the first full bar is accompanied by a C-B flat suspension in the tenor, giving a double suspension.
There’s never time to mention everything but that is true.
why are there two middle C's on the down beat after the pick up measure ? And D's on the 2& . Something to do with singing ?
It’s possible for two voices to sing the same note.
Another wonderful lesson. I am an intermediate level pianist and have not played Bach chorales before. I suppose it is ok to play a tenor note with the thumb of the right hand when there is a large gap between the bass and tenor like in the cadence at the end of the second phrase?
Absolutely the best way to manage it.
@@MusicMattersGB Thank you!
😀
I am not sure how you are playing some of those large intervals at the end of the first phrase.
You can take tenor notes in the right hand.
Bach was a smart cat
He certainly was
Excellent Video Can you please start classes on Udemy Platform!.
Thanks. We have all our courses on the Teachable platform.
*Virtual chocolate bar*
😀
I really don't like Bach chorales. Very predictable and dull. Glad we've moved on from Bach!
That’s a pity. They are musical gems.
@@MusicMattersGB I'd love to understand why you think that 🤔. They aren't immortalised ear-worms and the rules are so constraining, you wind up with hymns and Christmas Songs that sound almost identical, which is why I think composers evolved.
They are absolutely beautiful pieces of work with rich harmony making highly skilled use of inessential notes and suspensions offering a basis on which so much future writing evolved.
I used to sing alto, now soprano… I miss singing alto especially when we sing Bach because it is just so intricate and beautiful. It brings me joy even (or especially) when it is so difficult and I hear all the other parts moving around me. Thank you for this. I wish I could play the piano.
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