I reaaaalllly liked Scream 5 but you nailed my main issue with it. As soon as the killers are revealed they immediately become idiots who put up 0 fight to the good guys.
Also part of the problem when you have 3 legacy characters and two new stars going against Ghost Face, you can't really kill any of them without pissing off fans or ruining the future of the franchise
@@Tony_Pesta It’s not that Dewey was killed off, it’s that the writers basically gave him the middle finger the entire movie and then killed him off. There’s nothing like taking a character loved by fans, turning him into a drunken, trailer park recluse and then having him killed off in the most idiotic way. If Scream 5 was a good movie, killing off Dewey wouldn’t be a huge issue. But it was incompetently written and hilariously executed so here we are...
That's kind of the point though. They're both inexperienced and have no idea what they're really doing. So bad that they failed to kill Tara multiple times. Only what 4 kills in the entire movie before the party at the end?
@@Shane3125 billy and stu only killed casey and principal himbry before the party starts and in the party they killed tatum and kenny, so if you are complaining about the number of kills in scream 5, you should be complaining about the number of kills in the first one
@@07foxmulder … that’s the point. it’s a character arc, it makes perfect sense, and the movie is making fun of the idea that a sequel isn’t exactly what some die hard fan wants bc it’s a ridiculous expectation.
I think Stu's goofiness and the way it almost seems like he's just joking around despite doing horrific things actually elevate the scare factor for his character, to me
One thing you left out for Mickey is he broke Sid the most. She became a recluse after Scream 2. She blamed herself for Derrek's death for not untying him when Mickey had herself questioning he was his partner. She was still wearing his frat pendant in Scream 3.
mickey manipulated sidney & she felt very guilty about it BUT the one who hurt sid the most was billy. that’s clear. it was shocking for her to find out that her boyfriend of 2 years was not only a serial killer, but had also killed her mother. she had to undergo therapy for years because of it, from what i’ve heard. billy ruined her.
Billy was the most scariest Ghostface of the entire franchise. His presence once his identity was so disturbing and unsettling. Jill was scary but I couldn’t really take her seriously tho.
Agree, i didn't feel jill was intimidating at all, she had a good reveal but i seem to be the only one that finds her acting after that reveal laughable, billy and stu all the way
I know Scream 3 is widely hated by the majority of Scream fans out there, but I quite like it, especially the Ghostface we get in it. Roman’s Ghostface felt like the most unstoppable and tactical one of the series. He literally took on 4 people at once in that bedroom scene at Milton’s mansion, pulled the rug out from under Tyson (literally lmao) when he tried to escape, managed to capture both Gale and Dewey, was the only killer that didnt need a slave or partner to do his work, was one of the only killers who was evenly matched against Sidney, and was responsible for the entire series taking place. he planned himself and executed the plans by himself. if you locked all 9 ghosface killers from all 5 movies in a room and they all had a kill off to death to see who wins, roman would win by far.
@@cmajor886 oh and i forgot he has the highes kill count of any ghostface. he killed 9 people. other ghostfaces even with partners couldnt get as many kills as him and he acted alone. pretty cool right!
THANK YOU. He's by far the most effective ghostface even if his character wasn't the best. He's incredibly smart, quite strong, and basically would have killed Sidney had she not worn that vest. And yeah he handles those 4, plus takes down the big body guard solo.
Scream 4 is my favourite as well It’s so under appreciated and underrated Jill was the most shocking reveal for me too, they did it so well making us think she’s the victim
Kevin Williamson recently came out in an interview and stated that his original plan for Scream 4 & 5, had Scream 4 been successful enough to spark a new trilogy, was that hospital scene was not supposed to exist. 4 would have ended with Jill getting away with it and Sid suffering some slight memory loss and not remembering that Jill had been the mastermind behind the kills. Then 5 would have been Jill and Kirby going off to college and Jill would receive a phone call from a new Ghostface who claimed to know what she had done in the film previous, starting a new chain of murders. Sort of Scream with some I Know What You Did Last Summer vibes. Unfortunately, I guess the studio hated the ending of Scream 4 and thought audiences would be upset if the movie ended on that cliffhanger and they never got to make 5, so they forced Craven and Williamson to tack on the hospital scene ending. I wish we would've got to see all that come to fruition though, that premise sounds sick
@@hakikigulyabani she kind of annoyed me and it’s the same as what people say about Amber, how can this little girl kill and brutalize people as easy as she does.
Stu is my favorite Ghostface without question. He is the embodiment of Ghostface in so many ways, haha. And the fact that he looks at his murder spree as essentially a joke just makes him so much scarier.
One of the underrated aspects of Billy’s physical traits, besides his intense eyes, was his tall, slender body. It gave him this intimidating aura about him, as he looked totally different to every other killer in the franchise. For example, name any of the other male killers in the series - Stu, Mickey, Roman, Charlie and Richie. Outside of Stu thanks to his height and goofy expressions, every single one of them would be forgotten quite easily, because they don’t have any particularly strong physical features that separate them from the crowd. Whereas Billy had this sleazy look about him that was unsettling, yet at the same time undeniably attractive. It was impossible to forget him because his face is so unique that he doesn’t look like anyone else you would meet on the street. Likewise, his body was stringy yet surprisingly masculine, which is a total contradiction but makes perfect sense when you see it. It really was perfect casting, as Skeet’s physical look perfectly complimented Billy’s psychotic personality.
Mickey was a savage and didn't care, Roman was a master mind,Stu was entertaining, Jill was a jealous pyscho and Billy was a combination of all those with a solid motive they all brought something different
Roman the smartest Ghostface since he started the events of the movie franchise and the fact he is the lone killer but to me he's top 5 of Ghostface I definitely put him above Mrs. Loomis.
I think people who are hardcore scream fans should check out the tv series. Cody has said that he likes scream but isn’t a scream fanatic so I don’t think he would appreciate the tv series the same way.
I've only Seen season. It's quite a flawed show with its music , sub plots, characters, and some iffy acting, but the main mystery is engaging enough With so many other characters being set up or suggested to be the killer, and especially with certain moments to suggest otherwise than the final reveal, it did surprise me. Only just started Season 2, so interested to see how the story plays out
Without a doubt! The tv show first 2 seasons r awesome!!! But iv not seen season 3 because it is not tied in & iv heard terrible reviews about season 3…
1. Jill (The most evil and her motive is so relevant today) 2. Billy (The scariest) 3. Richie (Perfect example of a toxic fan) 4. Mrs. Loomis (The most sane) 5. Mickey (Most psychotic) 6. Stu (The most thrilling) 7. Amber (Absolutely crazy) 8. Roman (Too whiny) 9. Charlie (Too forgettable outside the costume)
Never been a huge Emma Roberts fan, but she impressed me so much in this role. I was shocked and I still think of her line “I don’t need friends; I need fans” often. It’s so how people are now.
My Ghostface Killer Rankings (TV Show Ghostface Included) 1. Billy 2. Stu 3. Jill 4. Mickey 5. Roman 6. Mrs. Loomis 7. Richie 8. Piper 9. Beth 10. Amber 11. Kieran 12. Jay 13. Charlie All 13 Ghostfaces of the Scream franchise ranked
@@yungblade7 Only because she said that she did, doesn't mean she 100% did it. So much doesn't add up with Amber being the murderer of Dewey (hight-difference, way of killing (Amber is stabby-stab, not slice and dice, which is Stu's style), how GF talks to Dewey, her overall bodily abilities and capacities). Amber is such a tiny and not very strong girl. How could she overpower a trained former deputy, who was much taller and stronger than her? It makes more sense with it being Stu (same with the apartment scene in 6). Also if the Cult-theory is true and Amber and Richie are part of said cult, it would make sense for her to take credit for Dewey's death. After all why would she reveal the Cult-leader, who is believed to be dead, to Sidney and Gale?
you nailed it with billy. they surprised you with the obvious. usually the obvious red herring isn’t actually the killer but billy was. reverse twist indeed
Billy was the scariest to me. He was the most intense & had a solid reason. Jill’s reveal was good & she did a great job acting but the part post reveal was terrible. Just couldn’t take it seriously. I like the idea of letting her win (even if temp) and then seeing what happens to the characters in the next one. Can’t believe they gave an iconic kill like Dewey to Amber?? Seriously.
1. Stu (loved the character and his lack of motive) 2. Billy (loved that it was so obvious he was the killer it made me think he was a red herring and I stop suspecting him) 3. Jill (loved the twist that the new final girl for the franchise wasn’t actually the final girl but instead is the killer) 4. Richie(loved his character and honestly it surprised me that he was a killer, he seems like such a nice caring guy.) 5. Amber( loved the technique of her kills lot of aggressive brutal stabbing, and her reveal was awesome with that gunshot) 6. Roman(just didn’t like him, he seemed like more of a soap opera killer then a horror killer) 7. Mickey (to obvious that he was the killer due to him doing missing for 45 minutes, his motive was really stupid) 8. Mrs loomis (motive is really generic and her twist was the weakest of the franchise) 9. Charlie (just Jill’s sidekick, and he had the worst death. He was really dumb in retrospect)
Also the most obvious. Once she said that shit in the bar blowing up sam’s past and acting protective of Tara. I knew it had to be her because ghost face seemed to know a lot about Tara in the opening scene. So basically about 15 mins in I knew she was ghost face it was just a question of who was helping her.
1. Billy Loomis - Scariest Ghostface, used revenge as his motive and love for horror movies to try and pull it off. Being smart enough to stab himself to make it more convincing and had some great lines. 2. Mickey Altieri - Crazy but calculating. Convincingly got close to Sid and her friend group. Had some great lines before and after his killer reveal and gives props to Billy on how good of a killer Billy was. 3. Stu Macher - Crazy energy and sure a bit of a lap dog but easily the most entertaining killer and again many memorable lines both before and after his killer reveal. 4. Mrs. Loomis - Great motivation and while she had her bat shit moments she planned the whole thing out very well not raising suspicion on herself and keeping tabs on all police findings, Sidney and Gale with her reporter cover. 5. Richie Kirsch - Unique motivation and while perhaps not something one would kill over, one all movie fans can relate to. Like with Billy seemed like the obvious killer from the start but also like Billy kept most second guessing that theory throughout. Decent killer reveal line to Sam. 6. Jill Roberts - Brutal enough to kill her own mother, but wanting to kill Sidney and her friends just so she can get famous. Eh, I guess is ok for a motive. Was willing to injury herself to sell it like Billy and Stu, but overall came off less intimidating and more of just a self entitled brat. 7. Roman Bridger - True the only solo killer (or so they say) but never bought for a minute a guy like Billy or Stu would take orders from such a whiny little bitch. No scenes with Sidney until his reveal and he really goes to Hollywood and becomes a rich and famous director just so he can lure his half sister whose life is pretty much that of a hermit out of hiding just so he can whine to her and then kill her? 8. Charlie Walker - Pretty dull and boring character overall with pretty much a motivation of just wanting to please a girl he likes. Points for the most brutal kill in the movie and one of the entire franchise. Passable creepy vibe throughout most of the movie but seemed overly awkward and in over his head after his killer reveal. 9. Amber Freeman - Barely a presence throughout the movie but that’s perhaps a blessing as whenever on screen she is extremely annoying. Easily the most disappointing of killer reveals as she was by far my least favorite character in the movie and while the Dewey kill was sad yet brave for the Dewey character it later becomes infuriating knowing that this lamest of Ghostface killers was the one that did it. The only satisfying part was seeing Sidney and Gale cook her and Tara shooting her.
no particular ordeer heres how i look at it billy and stu - the most intimidating and charasmtic duo and scary mickey and billys mother ms loomis - the most evil and cold hearted brutal/gore killing ghostfaces roman - the most resilient, and superhuman and strong and intelligent ghostface jill and charles - the most selfish and egotistical ghostfaces amber and richie - the most lunatic and psycho ghostfaces
Roman Bridger even with his career and his money. He wanted to be love by his mother. Her Mother reject him so he became a serial killer. Amber you can't put her a number 9, she killed one of the original.
I'm litterally editing mine now to post tonight and saw this because my youtube was open on my second phone and I was checking messenger. I'll watch this afterwards. To quote Count Dooku, "I've been looking forward to this"
I agree with pretty much all of this... would have been awesome if Jill survived and won...I honestly thought they had the balls and did that at first. Nice one Cody
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I think Stu was my favorite Ghost face. Not because he’s the scariest but he was the most entertaining. He was the 1 ghostface reveal that sort of shocked me, almost like I didn’t want to believe it because I loved his character. Sydney was in disbelief and I also was. I think when I first watched the original Scream I thought it was too obvious for Billy to be the killer but that was perfect and it kept a lot of your attention on him. Nothing will beat the reveal of having 2 killers in the original because it was never done before and was down right shocking. 🤙🏻
Im on Mickey boat all the way. A real psycho with experience, great phone calls and kills too. Also while ms Loomis did plan all of it, he did 99% of the physical work Also tho im 100% on board with Jill being the most surprising killer reveal
I agree. Just Olivia's death is proof to that. The most brutal death in the whole franchise. Also Charlie is so underrated. Everyone gives Jill all the praise, even though she just copied Billy's plan. Also why does everyone think Charlie is a dumb lapdog, only because he got manipulated by Jill, who he believed to love him, by how good she was putting up the act. Also Charlie does almost all of the work in Scream 4, except for the death of Trevor, which we know was Jill.
I agree. We need Stu to return in Scream 7, revealed as the Mastermind behind 5 and 6, who killed Dewey (would fit with the highdifference and the way of killing) and attacked Gale. Would fill so many plotholes and give Stu time to shine (like he would have had in 3, if Collumbine hadn't happened).
1. Billy Loomis🏆( The OG... The best motive of all the killers, quite possibly the most unhinged, daring, and knows his horror movie trivia😂) 2. Stu ( The funniest and possibly the most entertaining movie serial killer..Also one of the OG's and had the best partner😂) 3. Mickey ( Just a sick SOB that knows he's psycho and accepts it, but wants the fame for his kills and making his own movie😉) 4. Jill (Probably the most surprising twist of them all. Especially given that she is Sid's cousin and social media attention was a sad and desperate but smart and interesting motive) 5. Debbie(Billy's mom)-( Liked the Pamela Voorhees mother route they took, and it was a pretty unexpected twist.) 6. Roman ( The only Ghostface killer to do it solo, so he has some bragging rights. Liked bullet proof vest and voice changer. 7. Richie ( Really tried to convince us he wasn't the killer to the very end. Really liked the smart social commentary on toxic fandom.) 8. Amber ( Kind of annoying but still had the toxic fandom message and got to kill Dewey😢) 9. Charley ( He was just a pawn...that was good with a video camera)
My Ranking: 9. Charlie ( Didnt really like him that much and saw it coming through the whole movie) 8. Mickey ( I think its a weak Motive) 7. Roman ( Really, a long lost brother?) 6. Mrs. Loomis ( Actually like her) 5. Richie ( I like his motive) 4. Amber ( She Was like Stu just crazy and killed dewey) 3. Billy ( OG, but everyone saw it coming through the movie 2. Jill ( This one actually surprised me af) 1. Stu ( Matthew Lillard is just the scariest Ghostface)
no particular ordeer heres how i look at it billy and stu - the most intimidating and charasmtic duo and scary mickey and billys mother ms loomis - the most evil and cold hearted brutal/gore killing ghostfaces roman - the most resilient, and superhuman and strong and intelligent ghostface jill and charles - the most selfish and egotistical ghostfaces amber and richie - the most lunatic and psycho ghostfaces
Man, we are so on opposite ends here! Mickey always felt Stu-lite for me and I saw the Jill twist coming within the first 15 minutes. Then she annoyed me with her scooby-doo speeches that just went on F O R E V E R ! ! !
Roman & Jill are cousins and killed each their mothers and tried to kill Sidney and those are her relatives surprise nobody acknowledge Roman and Jill being cousins to.
I feel like I'm on an island with Roman being my favorite Ghostface. He truly feels like the mastermind and I found him to be quite sinister. My second favorite was Mrs. Loomis. She was just delightfully over-the-top and a real surprise. And I have to disagree with Cody about Mickey's motive because I actually thought it was kinda lame. And to a degree, I may be projecting my own thoughts here too much, but I feel the movie was even commenting on that when they had Mrs. Loomis say, "Mickey was a good boy, but can believe that whole blame the movies? Could you buy that for one second? Poor boy was completely out of his mind." Then she goes on to say, "My motive isn't as 90s ad Mickey's. Mine's just good old-fashioned revenge." I took that as the movie saying you don't have to always reinvent the wheel. Old-fashioned emotions of anger and revenge are often the best ones. My top 2 are Roman and Mrs. Loomis and then it varies a lot. I will say the two killers from the recent one are def toward the bottom. Lol
since you mentioned the fact that one killer was usually the in-charge killer and the other was usually the lap dog, I always wondered how they recruited the lap dog killer? How does that conversation usually start?
i’m pretty sure you just manipulate them into thinking they’re gonna benefit from killing innocent people and being apart of it until they get betrayed and killed by their partner
One of the reasons i hated scream 5 is the flamethrower once upon in hollywood copy kill so unoriginal....heck they even named it just "scream" ...how unoriginal can you get. Amber and richie were sloppy ameteurs. I ll give em one thing they did wipe out 2 legacy characters dewey and judy( if u wanna count judy as legacy) however lotta stuff wasnt believable or made sense. Good kills tho and decent motive. Killers were boring tho
@@jaydonjohnston798 honestly getting “famous” isn’t as hard as it use to be it took a lot of work to be known and now tiktok and social media make it easy and u don’t need to work hard for it compared to how real celebrities worked their ass off to be known for who they are today
Yeah out of any Ghostface motive of the entire franchise Jill to me has the most woke and rational motive people would do anything to get followers and be famous like look at the websites we have today for people to get some type of clout some people would go as far to harm others just to be noticed Jill motive was ahead of it's time.
1. Mickey True psychopath with impressive kills and wanted to get caught. 2. Stu Psychotic, funny with the most memorable lines. 3. Billy OG with the best motive and very scary when unhinged. 4. Roman Mastermind behind everything and did it all on his own. 5. Mrs Loomis Loved the reveal, looked batshit crazy. Mrs Voorhees vibes. 6. Richie Cool motive and physically looked capable as Ghostface atleast. 7. Charlie Was too small and scrawny, atleast had some brutal kills. 8. Amber Atleast got an OG kill. Was crazy but not physically believable as a killer 9. Jill Not physically imposing at all, comes of like a whiney brat. Thumbs up for crazy atleast.
I think Amber is physically believable as a killer she looks and acts like she could have been one of the Charles Manson girls which she did in fact play one of those people in Quentin Tarantino's once upon a Time in Hollywood and I think that's why Tarantino cast her she's very believable in that role she's very good at playing a crazy person
@Smooth Lyrics you share a different opinion with me and that's fine but I didn't find it to be that far fetched short people can be crazy with knives too it's been done
I don’t like amber but most of her kills had an element of surprise. Even dewy. I’m not saying I buy her not being immediately overpowered by dewy though he did remind us he was stabbed a billion times and has nerve damage. Her kill for Vince was a surprise stab as well. And if she did Judy that was also a surprise stab. The way she killed dewy isn’t believable for anyone to do, u don’t just slice through bone lol. At least from what I saw she starts at the upper stomach and middle of the back and just slices up like there’s not gonna be rib cage and spine that would stop her from doing so. I would’ve preferred if she had just grabbed on with two hands, pulled the knife out a bit and slashed across the stomach, way more believable than what she ended up doing.
I have to say, I love the hospital scene in scream 4, and it’s for this reason- After Jill attacks sidney in her hospital room, right before Dewey comes in, Sidney tells jill that she’s never going to get away with it, to which Jill replies “Of course I will!” Even though the hospital scene might suspend believe, Sidney is the one to call it out. There’s absolutely no way Jill could get away with it at this point, and yet she still thinks she can. I like this scene because it takes both Jill and Sidney a step further, and we get to see Jill really crack.
also the fact that if she just stayed put in the hospital and pretended to be innocent until sidney starts saying it was jill, jill can just say she had a lot of damage to her memory and that it was truly trevor and charlie but she lost her mind and was totally psycho to think of this
You knew first ten minutes that Richie was one of the killers in 5? I actually felt the same about Amber cause when she was shown in her bedroom by the killer in her own closet I couldn’t help but think yeah she’s part of this.
I absolutely love that Jill is your #1. She played a psycho so well. But also played the "innocent victim" part well too, so much so that it's almost impossible to believe she's the puppet master when she's revealed as the killer. I love that you went with the least popular opinion . Scream 4 was such a great entry and Jill really carried that finale so well. The self mutilation scene was crazy. The hospital sequence was incredible. She went from sweet and innocent to psychotic mess in the snap of a finger. Emma Roberts is such a great actress and this movie proves it. I would recommend the tv series, at least the first 2 for shits and giggles. The third season was kind of a mess, by campy fun with nothing to do with the first 2 seasons. I think you might actually like the first 2 seasons. There's carnage and candy. And whoa at your subscriber count. It just keeps climbing.
It's really refreshing to see a Ghostface ranking that doesn't have Billy and Stu in the top spots. Just because the original Scream is the best one (and an all-time classic) doesn't mean that there aren't other great Ghostface killers throughout the franchise.
Man you hit the nail on the head with this list Cody! I was curious to see how you placed the new killers from scream 5 as they were my least favourite out of the franchise, however I still really enjoyed the movie. I am also a huge scream 4 fan and have it tied for first with scream 1. I think we will all look back and feel lucky that we get to watch remakes of old horrors at the cinema with legacy characters coming back 🤘
when I saw scream 4 in theaters, I knew by the 3rd death of her friend, Olivia, that it was Jill. She was distressed, just enough. She was mad at Sidney, just enough. She felt like she was acting with trying to shift any potential suspicion away from her. I also thought about it in the way just after seeing Olivia's death, that the killer knew what they were watching in Jill's room, thus I felt there definitely are two killers and someone tipped off the other killer. I didn't see Kirby being a killer and Jill's personality was a bit drier and gothic, similar to Billy's.
"Hey Mikey, we really loved how psychotic and hysterical you were in 'Hollywood'..... Can you do that again?" - Radio silence casting Mikey Madison as Amber
15:20 Gotta agree here. This would have been an awesome end to the movie, and could have made for a very interesting and potentially unique sequel. That being said, considering Scream 4 dind't do so well, it probably would have been too high a risk to take
Here’s my ranking 1. Billy 2. Jill (literally one of the most psychotic characters of all time imo) 3. Mrs. Loomis 4. Stu 5. Richie 6. Mickey 7. Roman 8. Amber 9. Charlie
10. Angelina -- You kinda have to be dead-last when your role as the co-killer of Scream 3 has to be gleaned from secondary material rather than from the film itself. 9. Amber -- She suffers mainly from proving to be less interesting in her motivations than initially suggested. If her protective behavior over Tara had been somewhat genuine, she would be higher on the list, but instead, she has no unique motive. 8. Mickey -- I really considered putting him last. He feels like a Xerox of Billy Loomis, but without the more personal motive. Out of all the possible suspects in Scream 2, he was one of the least-interesting choices. (Lousy rewrites...) 7. Roman -- Everything about him was just a bit too contrived, and he was fairly forgettable before the reveal. But he was one of the most clever killers, so he has to get some credit. 6. Charlie -- His big reveal was so good that it makes up for his shortcomings otherwise. His main weakness is that he is a little overshadowed by his fellow film nerds. 5. Richie -- His motives weren't all that different from those seen in Scream 4. That said, he captured that incensed fanboy energy quite well, which gives him a slight edge over Charlie. 4. Debbie -- Good old-fashioned revenge might not be the sort of meta-motive we expect from Scream killers, but the idea of a vengeful mother on a murder spree is a wonderful nod to Friday the 13th. 3. Billy -- He's certainly the most intimidating villain of the series, but the details revealed in Scream 3 retroactively made his motives less compelling than they were when the first film existed on its own. 2. Jill -- She has perhaps the best motive of any killer in the series, and she is wonderfully crazy. It's like the best of Billy and Stu in one character. That said, pure scenery-chewing has to win out in the end, and that goes to... 1. Stu -- Few horror movie serial killers are as fun as Stu. 'Nuff said.
in no particular ordeer heres how i look at it billy and stu - the most intimidating and charasmtic duo and scary mickey and billys mother ms loomis - the most evil and cold hearted brutal/gore killing ghostfaces roman - the most resilient, and superhuman and strong and intelligent ghostface jill and charles - the most selfish and egotistical ghostfaces amber and richie - the most lunatic and psycho ghostfaces
Lol go by what the movie tells you not the original script plans, angelina was not a killer. Give roman credit for being the only solo killer of the series and most intelligent
Mickey was a dumbass! Someone should've explained to the kid, the point to being a Ghostface is to get 'away' with the murders. Not go on trial and blame the movies for it! Even Stu, who was no brain surgeon, understood the importance of this.
I loved the first two seasons of the scream tv series. I thought it was really good it was brutal and had lots of blood and great kill scenes and imo great reveals of the killers I was generally shocked. I recommend it❤️❤️
I completely agree. Hopefully Cody gives first 2 seasons a chance. I think he would appreciate it especially sinc3 ghost face kills are very different then just stabby stabby. Very inventive and original and I know sometimes that’s a criticism that Cody has of the movies’ ghost face
Here’s my ranking 9. Amber Motive was incredibly weak in my opinion and she was just very annoying. 8. Richie Same thing with Amber but his reveal was more surprising I think. 7. Charlie He’s just kinda there and I think he’s kinda annoying. 6. Roman He’s just kinda whiny but that’s really it. This is the point where I start liking everyone. 5. Stu I like him but he didn’t really have much of a motive 4. Mrs Loomis Her motive made a lot of sense and Laurie Metcalf (probably spelled that wrong) I think did a good job. 3. Mickey I think he’s just a better version of Stu. 2. Billy Easily the best motive and he’s a good character. 1. Jill Best surprise, kills and all of her memorable lines.
Most importantly, Jill (unlike all the others) wasn't crazy. She was evil. This girl had no problem murdering her own mother for the price of petty fame. She wasn't a mentally unbalanced psychopath, she was a psychologically calculating sociopath with no conscience. She was the Devil.
The only thing I can’t get behind with Mickey is that after the cafeteria scene, he’s not in the movie until his reveal. That’s a good chunk of the film where this prominent character is no where to be seen. But besides that I do like him as a Ghostface
Hot take: amber is the most underrated ghost face. She had the most kills in scream 5. She is the ghost face who kills Dewey for real. She is the ghost face who taught Sam & Tara the importance of going for the head. Her entire motive is that the idea of being a ghost face is fun. She isn’t a super fan like Richie but she isn’t too pressured into it like Stu or Mickey. She is just there cause she enjoys it. That is terrifying!
The only positive thing I can say about the TV series is with the first two seasons, the ghost face kills are more creative and inventive than the movies. So if you can find a kill comp, I'd suggest just watching that.
It's one of my favorites too. Matthew did excellent at improvising at that scene, since it wasn't in the script, but the phone slipped out of Skeet's hand, because of the fake blood and hit Matthew instead of the table.
The show is not perfect but it’s entertaining. The core trio is solid, and the Movie Nerd character was the highlight of the show in terms of both writing and performance. The killers were mostly effective, Season One’s villain was surprising but not unbelievable and Season Two’s killer was a fitting conclusion to that character’s arc. The kills are mostly pretty good by the standards of an MTV show. Overall i would say it’s good enough to recommend to even a casual Scream fan, as long as you keep reasonable expectations
15:07 that exactly was initial Williamson's idea for a new trilogy as far as I know. Producers said no, and Scream's 3 writer did some rewrites, probablyu the whole hospital scene. As much as I like it, it would be great to have an open ending. I have a feeling Radio Silence will now go this route
I just wanna wake up in a world one day where Charlie Walker gets the respect he deserves as Ghostface. At this point how he's perceived in the horror community is becoming criminal. Kirby isn't the character she is without him.
I agree in fact he did all of the killings as Ghostface and was surprisingly strong for a dude his size and he was incredibly sneaky and was able to break into peoples homes and plant evidence in Sidney’s car in public im assuming and he was well versed in horror I actually have him above Jill and stuff
The character is so underdeveloped and not memorable in any way shape or form. He does have some of the best kills but we don't see Charlie in the Ghostface costume. Obviously the one where he kills the friend next door is one of the best kills of the franchise. I don't think Charlie killed Alison Brie. That was Jill. He does kill the cops. Honestly the body count isn't very high. Aside from that one brutal kill Charlie didn't really kill anyone.
@@benjaminmartinez1638 Jill was in the hospital and was surrounded by people and cameras how in tf would she be able to get the Ghostface costume and knife while all that is going on the only person who would have had access to the costume at that time was Charlie he could have easily snuck off from Robbie
If you go back and watch the movies, Roman is pretty much the only killer who maintains his strength, speed, and physicality once the mask comes off. Most of the time with these killers, once the mask comes off, it seems like they are not quite as fast or strong and a bit more clumsy than when they have the mask on. But not with Roman. The fight scene with him and Sidney is intense.
It still surprises me that a lot of people rank Charlie low on their lists. He's probably the most underrated killer in the franchise, in my opinion. I honestly have him third place in my ranking.
Ppl have him low because his motive is stupid although I’ll say this and I’ll never argue anyone about his character he has one of the best kills in the franchise being Olivia he’s brutal but that’s really it nothing else plus he’s dumb he got taken out so fast all because he wanted a gf💀
I partly understand, because he is just a lacky. However, I'm more than positive he did like 90% of the kills and that alone should have put him higher.
@@BrandonJames2016 Yeah, I agree that he doesn't have that good of a motive and is just more of a follower, but we can say that about a few others too.
@@jaysarandrea yeah but at least they were entertaining like Stu was the lackey but his dark humor is top tier, Mickey was a straight up psycho with an interesting motive that could potentially work, Amber killed Dewey but that’s it
1. Jill Roberts 2. Billy Loomis 3. Stu Macher 4. Mrs. Loomis 5. Mickey Altieri 6. Amber Freeman 7. Richie Kirsch 8. Roman Bridger 9. Charlie Walker I loved every single one except Roman and Charlie
Charlie would have been a legendary killer in the series if he was the one to be the main killer in number 4. Have him reenact Billy stabbing Stu and say I have seen this movie before and I am not Stu or Micky.
omg I am so HAPPY about your top choice, it's also my top killer, as it's by far the least expected one, and she is just so cool being so crazy (for sure wouldn't think that were she my sister or a friend lol)
RUclips actually spoiled me for scream 5 so I watched it knowing all the killers. RUclips sucks when it comes to spoilers. I was searching scream 4 and then it showed me scream 5 reveal. RUclips sucks sometimes
I’m so happy that Jill gets so much praise from fans- she really was the best ghostface, and she almost got away with it! And I kinda liked Amber- in hindsight my her manipulation of Sam and Tara… and then how she flips from trying to manipulate sid/gale on the porch… and then AGAIN pleading for her life… Amber was so crazy, I dont think that makes her a good ghostface necessarily, but she was definitely one of the crazier ones
Really good ranking, Cody. It’s hard for me to rank the killers since I like all of them, but I’d say Stu is my favorite due to his goofiness and yet still being a killer in general.
*Jill's motive was kind of ahead of it's time when you think of where social media was in 2010/2011 and now*
I reaaaalllly liked Scream 5 but you nailed my main issue with it. As soon as the killers are revealed they immediately become idiots who put up 0 fight to the good guys.
Also part of the problem when you have 3 legacy characters and two new stars going against Ghost Face, you can't really kill any of them without pissing off fans or ruining the future of the franchise
@@Tony_Pesta It’s not that Dewey was killed off, it’s that the writers basically gave him the middle finger the entire movie and then killed him off. There’s nothing like taking a character loved by fans, turning him into a drunken, trailer park recluse and then having him killed off in the most idiotic way. If Scream 5 was a good movie, killing off Dewey wouldn’t be a huge issue. But it was incompetently written and hilariously executed so here we are...
That's kind of the point though. They're both inexperienced and have no idea what they're really doing. So bad that they failed to kill Tara multiple times. Only what 4 kills in the entire movie before the party at the end?
@@Shane3125 billy and stu only killed casey and principal himbry before the party starts and in the party they killed tatum and kenny, so if you are complaining about the number of kills in scream 5, you should be complaining about the number of kills in the first one
@@07foxmulder … that’s the point. it’s a character arc, it makes perfect sense, and the movie is making fun of the idea that a sequel isn’t exactly what some die hard fan wants bc it’s a ridiculous expectation.
I think Stu's goofiness and the way it almost seems like he's just joking around despite doing horrific things actually elevate the scare factor for his character, to me
Exactly! Stu’s reveal is scary because he’s charming and seemingly harmless. His motivation of “peer pressure” justifies how unhinged he actually was.
I always said he was a maniac in plain sight and his sense of humor caused it be to overlook.
Till this day the"surprise Sidney" line delivered by Stu gives me the chills. Such an unexpected reveal that made everyone say "ohhh shiiiiiit"!
One thing you left out for Mickey is he broke Sid the most. She became a recluse after Scream 2. She blamed herself for Derrek's death for not untying him when Mickey had herself questioning he was his partner. She was still wearing his frat pendant in Scream 3.
Yeah you are so right about that
mickey manipulated sidney & she felt very guilty about it BUT the one who hurt sid the most was billy. that’s clear. it was shocking for her to find out that her boyfriend of 2 years was not only a serial killer, but had also killed her mother. she had to undergo therapy for years because of it, from what i’ve heard. billy ruined her.
She didn't have a choice. Derek wasn't getting untied no matter how she felt at that point.
They must be idiots (like Billy and Stu). But, you are right, the were wasy defeated. I love Roman's and Bailey and family putted a good fight.
Billy was the most scariest Ghostface of the entire franchise. His presence once his identity was so disturbing and unsettling. Jill was scary but I couldn’t really take her seriously tho.
No question
Agree, i didn't feel jill was intimidating at all, she had a good reveal but i seem to be the only one that finds her acting after that reveal laughable, billy and stu all the way
you forgetting jill is first ghostface to land a instant deadly wound on sidney prescott out of any killers prior to scream 2022
@@viperlike498 I agree 100%
The reveal was good and surprising but I hate her acting afterwards
sad thing is i think cody is only basing his top killers soley on unprectibility and the not total carnage and charisma.
I know Scream 3 is widely hated by the majority of Scream fans out there, but I quite like it, especially the Ghostface we get in it. Roman’s Ghostface felt like the most unstoppable and tactical one of the series. He literally took on 4 people at once in that bedroom scene at Milton’s mansion, pulled the rug out from under Tyson (literally lmao) when he tried to escape, managed to capture both Gale and Dewey, was the only killer that didnt need a slave or partner to do his work, was one of the only killers who was evenly matched against Sidney, and was responsible for the entire series taking place. he planned himself and executed the plans by himself.
if you locked all 9 ghosface killers from all 5 movies in a room and they all had a kill off to death to see who wins, roman would win by far.
Very interesting perspective. When you put it like that, he would win a kill off.
@@cmajor886 oh and i forgot he has the highes kill count of any ghostface. he killed 9 people. other ghostfaces even with partners couldnt get as many kills as him and he acted alone. pretty cool right!
THANK YOU. He's by far the most effective ghostface even if his character wasn't the best. He's incredibly smart, quite strong, and basically would have killed Sidney had she not worn that vest. And yeah he handles those 4, plus takes down the big body guard solo.
Scream 4 is my favourite as well
It’s so under appreciated and underrated
Jill was the most shocking reveal for me too, they did it so well making us think she’s the victim
Kevin Williamson recently came out in an interview and stated that his original plan for Scream 4 & 5, had Scream 4 been successful enough to spark a new trilogy, was that hospital scene was not supposed to exist. 4 would have ended with Jill getting away with it and Sid suffering some slight memory loss and not remembering that Jill had been the mastermind behind the kills. Then 5 would have been Jill and Kirby going off to college and Jill would receive a phone call from a new Ghostface who claimed to know what she had done in the film previous, starting a new chain of murders. Sort of Scream with some I Know What You Did Last Summer vibes. Unfortunately, I guess the studio hated the ending of Scream 4 and thought audiences would be upset if the movie ended on that cliffhanger and they never got to make 5, so they forced Craven and Williamson to tack on the hospital scene ending. I wish we would've got to see all that come to fruition though, that premise sounds sick
Billy and Jill are easily the two best for me. They were the most calculated and most sadistic towards Sidney.
I don’t really like Jill IMO
@@asharber9397 jill doesnt like you or me either....she'd kill us in a heartbeat to get famous so it goes both ways lol
Jill is the best one.
@@hakikigulyabani she kind of annoyed me and it’s the same as what people say about Amber, how can this little girl kill and brutalize people as easy as she does.
@@hakikigulyabani and I like Emma Roberts so it’s not the actress I don’t care for I just don’t like the character but liked the reveal
Stu doesn't get enough credit. He was the one who actually thought of having Sidney's dad be the fall guy.
Stu is my favorite Ghostface without question. He is the embodiment of Ghostface in so many ways, haha. And the fact that he looks at his murder spree as essentially a joke just makes him so much scarier.
One of the underrated aspects of Billy’s physical traits, besides his intense eyes, was his tall, slender body. It gave him this intimidating aura about him, as he looked totally different to every other killer in the franchise.
For example, name any of the other male killers in the series - Stu, Mickey, Roman, Charlie and Richie. Outside of Stu thanks to his height and goofy expressions, every single one of them would be forgotten quite easily, because they don’t have any particularly strong physical features that separate them from the crowd.
Whereas Billy had this sleazy look about him that was unsettling, yet at the same time undeniably attractive. It was impossible to forget him because his face is so unique that he doesn’t look like anyone else you would meet on the street. Likewise, his body was stringy yet surprisingly masculine, which is a total contradiction but makes perfect sense when you see it.
It really was perfect casting, as Skeet’s physical look perfectly complimented Billy’s psychotic personality.
Mickey was a savage and didn't care, Roman was a master mind,Stu was entertaining, Jill was a jealous pyscho and Billy was a combination of all those with a solid motive they all brought something different
Roman the smartest Ghostface since he started the events of the movie franchise and the fact he is the lone killer but to me he's top 5 of Ghostface I definitely put him above Mrs. Loomis.
Shhhhh we don't talk about that shit
lmao sure
agreed
@@98izzark69 then stay quiet
@@Garbageman0 I could say the same to you
The first two seasons of the tv series were good imo and the first season’s killer caught me off guard. I think they’re worth checking out!
I second this… Third season is garbage tho
The 3rd season was good folks were not used to the "urban setting" .
I think people who are hardcore scream fans should check out the tv series. Cody has said that he likes scream but isn’t a scream fanatic so I don’t think he would appreciate the tv series the same way.
I've only Seen season. It's quite a flawed show with its music , sub plots, characters, and some iffy acting, but the main mystery is engaging enough
With so many other characters being set up or suggested to be the killer, and especially with certain moments to suggest otherwise than the final reveal, it did surprise me.
Only just started Season 2, so interested to see how the story plays out
Without a doubt! The tv show first 2 seasons r awesome!!! But iv not seen season 3 because it is not tied in & iv heard terrible reviews about season 3…
1. Jill (The most evil and her motive is so relevant today)
2. Billy (The scariest)
3. Richie (Perfect example of a toxic fan)
4. Mrs. Loomis (The most sane)
5. Mickey (Most psychotic)
6. Stu (The most thrilling)
7. Amber (Absolutely crazy)
8. Roman (Too whiny)
9. Charlie (Too forgettable outside the costume)
Great list
I liked the labels
Never been a huge Emma Roberts fan, but she impressed me so much in this role. I was shocked and I still think of her line “I don’t need friends; I need fans” often. It’s so how people are now.
Terrible list.
Great list!
I liked the original killers the best! The performances of both actors in the original Scream were just awesome!
Same you can't Beat the classic
Jill was honestly such a psycho, that’s why I love her so much
problem was she died so easily
My Ghostface Killer Rankings (TV Show Ghostface Included)
1. Billy
2. Stu
3. Jill
4. Mickey
5. Roman
6. Mrs. Loomis
7. Richie
8. Piper
9. Beth
10. Amber
11. Kieran
12. Jay
13. Charlie
All 13 Ghostfaces of the Scream franchise ranked
Kieran should be higher. Based on his creative ways to kill. And not to mention the only killer to kill a mayor.
You put amber at 10 she killed dewey
Amber should be #13 she's the worse Ghostface and Charlie, Kieran and Jay all should be above Amber.
@@yungblade7 Only because she said that she did, doesn't mean she 100% did it. So much doesn't add up with Amber being the murderer of Dewey (hight-difference, way of killing (Amber is stabby-stab, not slice and dice, which is Stu's style), how GF talks to Dewey, her overall bodily abilities and capacities). Amber is such a tiny and not very strong girl. How could she overpower a trained former deputy, who was much taller and stronger than her? It makes more sense with it being Stu (same with the apartment scene in 6).
Also if the Cult-theory is true and Amber and Richie are part of said cult, it would make sense for her to take credit for Dewey's death. After all why would she reveal the Cult-leader, who is believed to be dead, to Sidney and Gale?
you nailed it with billy. they surprised you with the obvious. usually the obvious red herring isn’t actually the killer but billy was. reverse twist indeed
Billy was the scariest to me. He was the most intense & had a solid reason. Jill’s reveal was good & she did a great job acting but the part post reveal was terrible. Just couldn’t take it seriously. I like the idea of letting her win (even if temp) and then seeing what happens to the characters in the next one. Can’t believe they gave an iconic kill like Dewey to Amber?? Seriously.
1. Stu (loved the character and his lack of motive)
2. Billy (loved that it was so obvious he was the killer it made me think he was a red herring and I stop suspecting him)
3. Jill (loved the twist that the new final girl for the franchise wasn’t actually the final girl but instead is the killer)
4. Richie(loved his character and honestly it surprised me that he was a killer, he seems like such a nice caring guy.)
5. Amber( loved the technique of her kills lot of aggressive brutal stabbing, and her reveal was awesome with that gunshot)
6. Roman(just didn’t like him, he seemed like more of a soap opera killer then a horror killer)
7. Mickey (to obvious that he was the killer due to him doing missing for 45 minutes, his motive was really stupid)
8. Mrs loomis (motive is really generic and her twist was the weakest of the franchise)
9. Charlie (just Jill’s sidekick, and he had the worst death. He was really dumb in retrospect)
I feel like Amber is the weakest Ghostface
Also the most obvious. Once she said that shit in the bar blowing up sam’s past and acting protective of Tara. I knew it had to be her because ghost face seemed to know a lot about Tara in the opening scene. So basically about 15 mins in I knew she was ghost face it was just a question of who was helping her.
How
1. Billy Loomis - Scariest Ghostface, used revenge as his motive and love for horror movies to try and pull it off. Being smart enough to stab himself to make it more convincing and had some great lines.
2. Mickey Altieri - Crazy but calculating. Convincingly got close to Sid and her friend group. Had some great lines before and after his killer reveal and gives props to Billy on how good of a killer Billy was.
3. Stu Macher - Crazy energy and sure a bit of a lap dog but easily the most entertaining killer and again many memorable lines both before and after his killer reveal.
4. Mrs. Loomis - Great motivation and while she had her bat shit moments she planned the whole thing out very well not raising suspicion on herself and keeping tabs on all police findings, Sidney and Gale with her reporter cover.
5. Richie Kirsch - Unique motivation and while perhaps not something one would kill over, one all movie fans can relate to.
Like with Billy seemed like the obvious killer from the start but also like Billy kept most second guessing that theory throughout. Decent killer reveal line to Sam.
6. Jill Roberts - Brutal enough to kill her own mother, but wanting to kill Sidney and her friends just so she can get famous. Eh, I guess is ok for a motive. Was willing to injury herself to sell it like Billy and Stu, but overall came off less intimidating and more of just a self entitled brat.
7. Roman Bridger - True the only solo killer (or so they say) but never bought for a minute a guy like Billy or Stu would take orders from such a whiny little bitch. No scenes with Sidney until his reveal and he really goes to Hollywood and becomes a rich and famous director just so he can lure his half sister whose life is pretty much that of a hermit out of hiding just so he can whine to her and then kill her?
8. Charlie Walker - Pretty dull and boring character overall with pretty much a motivation of just wanting to please a girl he likes. Points for the most brutal kill in the movie and one of the entire franchise. Passable creepy vibe throughout most of the movie but seemed overly awkward and in over his head after his killer reveal.
9. Amber Freeman - Barely a presence throughout the movie but that’s perhaps a blessing as whenever on screen she is extremely annoying. Easily the most disappointing of killer reveals as she was by far my least favorite character in the movie and while the Dewey kill was sad yet brave for the Dewey character it later becomes infuriating knowing that this lamest of Ghostface killers was the one that did it. The only satisfying part was seeing Sidney and Gale cook her and Tara shooting her.
Amber was also as tall and built as Dewey in that kill scene, LOL! Yeah fucking right.
no particular ordeer
heres how i look at it
billy and stu - the most intimidating and charasmtic duo and scary
mickey and billys mother ms loomis - the most evil and cold hearted brutal/gore killing ghostfaces
roman - the most resilient, and superhuman and strong and intelligent ghostface
jill and charles - the most selfish and egotistical ghostfaces
amber and richie - the most lunatic and psycho ghostfaces
4 - great motivation?..
Man...
this is my exact ranking
Roman Bridger even with his career and his money. He wanted to be love by his mother. Her Mother reject him so he became a serial killer. Amber you can't put her a number 9, she killed one of the original.
I'm litterally editing mine now to post tonight and saw this because my youtube was open on my second phone and I was checking messenger. I'll watch this afterwards. To quote Count Dooku, "I've been looking forward to this"
I agree with pretty much all of this... would have been awesome if Jill survived and won...I honestly thought they had the balls and did that at first. Nice one Cody
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I think Stu was my favorite Ghost face. Not because he’s the scariest but he was the most entertaining. He was the 1 ghostface reveal that sort of shocked me, almost like I didn’t want to believe it because I loved his character. Sydney was in disbelief and I also was.
I think when I first watched the original Scream I thought it was too obvious for Billy to be the killer but that was perfect and it kept a lot of your attention on him. Nothing will beat the reveal of having 2 killers in the original because it was never done before and was down right shocking. 🤙🏻
Im on Mickey boat all the way. A real psycho with experience, great phone calls and kills too. Also while ms Loomis did plan all of it, he did 99% of the physical work
Also tho im 100% on board with Jill being the most surprising killer reveal
You know Miss Loomis killed Randy in the van though right?
@@KSG420 really?? U mean in scream 2
@@KSG420 I didn't catch that at first, would have made more sense for Mickey to kill Randy. Even if it was true, it's slightly off kilter.
putting billy at 3 is a crime. he MADE that franchise. every ghostface tries to be him. he’s definitely 1 for me.
Charlie is the most brutal Ghostface by far
I agree. Just Olivia's death is proof to that. The most brutal death in the whole franchise.
Also Charlie is so underrated. Everyone gives Jill all the praise, even though she just copied Billy's plan. Also why does everyone think Charlie is a dumb lapdog, only because he got manipulated by Jill, who he believed to love him, by how good she was putting up the act.
Also Charlie does almost all of the work in Scream 4, except for the death of Trevor, which we know was Jill.
I think that the only thing that saves Mickey from just being another Charlie is that he's played by Olyphant.
That and Mickey's kills were the most brutal. He seemed much more erratic in comparison to the rest imo.
I thought it was BS that she was somehow strong enough to kill Dewie like that..
I agree. We need Stu to return in Scream 7, revealed as the Mastermind behind 5 and 6, who killed Dewey (would fit with the highdifference and the way of killing) and attacked Gale. Would fill so many plotholes and give Stu time to shine (like he would have had in 3, if Collumbine hadn't happened).
1. Billy Loomis🏆( The OG... The best motive of all the killers, quite possibly the most unhinged, daring, and knows his horror movie trivia😂)
2. Stu ( The funniest and possibly the most entertaining movie serial killer..Also one of the OG's and had the best partner😂)
3. Mickey ( Just a sick SOB that knows he's psycho and accepts it, but wants the fame for his kills and making his own movie😉)
4. Jill (Probably the most surprising twist of them all. Especially given that she is Sid's cousin and social media attention was a sad and desperate but smart and interesting motive)
5. Debbie(Billy's mom)-( Liked the Pamela Voorhees mother route they took, and it was a pretty unexpected twist.)
6. Roman ( The only Ghostface killer to do it solo, so he has some bragging rights. Liked bullet proof vest and voice changer.
7. Richie ( Really tried to convince us he wasn't the killer to the very end. Really liked the smart social commentary on toxic fandom.)
8. Amber ( Kind of annoying but still had the toxic fandom message and got to kill Dewey😢)
9. Charley ( He was just a pawn...that was good with a video camera)
It’s always going to be Billy & Stu for me, but Jill was a dope Ghostface too.
I totally agree with you on that
"Liver Alone" - Stu Macher
(He's the coolest personality wise as one of the 👻 face killers)
My Ranking:
9. Charlie ( Didnt really like him that much and saw it coming through the whole movie)
8. Mickey ( I think its a weak Motive)
7. Roman ( Really, a long lost brother?)
6. Mrs. Loomis ( Actually like her)
5. Richie ( I like his motive)
4. Amber ( She Was like Stu just crazy and killed dewey)
3. Billy ( OG, but everyone saw it coming through the movie
2. Jill ( This one actually surprised me af)
1. Stu ( Matthew Lillard is just the scariest Ghostface)
no particular ordeer
heres how i look at it
billy and stu - the most intimidating and charasmtic duo and scary
mickey and billys mother ms loomis - the most evil and cold hearted brutal/gore killing ghostfaces
roman - the most resilient, and superhuman and strong and intelligent ghostface
jill and charles - the most selfish and egotistical ghostfaces
amber and richie - the most lunatic and psycho ghostfaces
Man, we are so on opposite ends here! Mickey always felt Stu-lite for me and I saw the Jill twist coming within the first 15 minutes. Then she annoyed me with her scooby-doo speeches that just went on F O R E V E R ! ! !
I liked the scene in 5 with Tara trying to escape in the hospital. I really like when characters take a real beating and refuse to stay down.
Roman & Jill are cousins and killed each their mothers and tried to kill Sidney and those are her relatives surprise nobody acknowledge Roman and Jill being cousins to.
I feel like I'm on an island with Roman being my favorite Ghostface. He truly feels like the mastermind and I found him to be quite sinister. My second favorite was Mrs. Loomis. She was just delightfully over-the-top and a real surprise. And I have to disagree with Cody about Mickey's motive because I actually thought it was kinda lame. And to a degree, I may be projecting my own thoughts here too much, but I feel the movie was even commenting on that when they had Mrs. Loomis say, "Mickey was a good boy, but can believe that whole blame the movies? Could you buy that for one second? Poor boy was completely out of his mind." Then she goes on to say, "My motive isn't as 90s ad Mickey's. Mine's just good old-fashioned revenge." I took that as the movie saying you don't have to always reinvent the wheel. Old-fashioned emotions of anger and revenge are often the best ones.
My top 2 are Roman and Mrs. Loomis and then it varies a lot. I will say the two killers from the recent one are def toward the bottom. Lol
Roman is my third favorite killer
since you mentioned the fact that one killer was usually the in-charge killer and the other was usually the lap dog, I always wondered how they recruited the lap dog killer? How does that conversation usually start?
Exactly my thoughts !. Like how the hell do you ask someone to start killing with you ?
"Hey, you busy this weekend?" "Nah, whatcha had in mind?" "Let's commit murder."
i’m pretty sure you just manipulate them into thinking they’re gonna benefit from killing innocent people and being apart of it until they get betrayed and killed by their partner
"Hey dude will you kill people with me?"
"Hell nah man"
"Would you do it for a scooby snack?"
" *ZOINKS* "
Amber's death is a nod to her death in once upon a time in Hollywood via flamethrower
One of the reasons i hated scream 5 is the flamethrower once upon in hollywood copy kill so unoriginal....heck they even named it just "scream" ...how unoriginal can you get. Amber and richie were sloppy ameteurs. I ll give em one thing they did wipe out 2 legacy characters dewey and judy( if u wanna count judy as legacy) however lotta stuff wasnt believable or made sense. Good kills tho and decent motive. Killers were boring tho
Jill really had the most logical motive of the franchise and I'm not much a Scream 4 fan.
Jill is a crazy bitch💀 but her sequence of harming herself is one of my favorite parts of the movie it’s ironically hilarious 💀
She was also the scariest of the killers since she was the smartest
Definitely the most relatable since we live in a time where everyone wants to be famous and known on social media.
@@jaydonjohnston798 honestly getting “famous” isn’t as hard as it use to be it took a lot of work to be known and now tiktok and social media make it easy and u don’t need to work hard for it compared to how real celebrities worked their ass off to be known for who they are today
Yeah out of any Ghostface motive of the entire franchise Jill to me has the most woke and rational motive people would do anything to get followers and be famous like look at the websites we have today for people to get some type of clout some people would go as far to harm others just to be noticed Jill motive was ahead of it's time.
1. Mickey
True psychopath with impressive kills and wanted to get caught.
2. Stu
Psychotic, funny with the most memorable lines.
3. Billy
OG with the best motive and very scary when unhinged.
4. Roman
Mastermind behind everything and did it all on his own.
5. Mrs Loomis
Loved the reveal, looked batshit crazy. Mrs Voorhees vibes.
6. Richie
Cool motive and physically looked capable as Ghostface atleast.
7. Charlie
Was too small and scrawny, atleast had some brutal kills.
8. Amber
Atleast got an OG kill. Was crazy but not physically believable as a killer
9. Jill
Not physically imposing at all, comes of like a whiney brat. Thumbs up for crazy atleast.
I think Amber is physically believable as a killer she looks and acts like she could have been one of the Charles Manson girls which she did in fact play one of those people in Quentin Tarantino's once upon a Time in Hollywood and I think that's why Tarantino cast her she's very believable in that role she's very good at playing a crazy person
@@mattbrumley9853 ok, but I'm not so sure if those Manson women were high school women
Plus they killed in groups not on their own.
@Smooth Lyrics you share a different opinion with me and that's fine but I didn't find it to be that far fetched short people can be crazy with knives too it's been done
I don’t like amber but most of her kills had an element of surprise. Even dewy. I’m not saying I buy her not being immediately overpowered by dewy though he did remind us he was stabbed a billion times and has nerve damage. Her kill for Vince was a surprise stab as well. And if she did Judy that was also a surprise stab. The way she killed dewy isn’t believable for anyone to do, u don’t just slice through bone lol. At least from what I saw she starts at the upper stomach and middle of the back and just slices up like there’s not gonna be rib cage and spine that would stop her from doing so. I would’ve preferred if she had just grabbed on with two hands, pulled the knife out a bit and slashed across the stomach, way more believable than what she ended up doing.
@@lostlifevids now that part I definitely agree with she wouldn't be able to slice through bone
I have to say, I love the hospital scene in scream 4, and it’s for this reason- After Jill attacks sidney in her hospital room, right before Dewey comes in, Sidney tells jill that she’s never going to get away with it, to which Jill replies “Of course I will!”
Even though the hospital scene might suspend believe, Sidney is the one to call it out. There’s absolutely no way Jill could get away with it at this point, and yet she still thinks she can.
I like this scene because it takes both Jill and Sidney a step further, and we get to see Jill really crack.
Yeah jill truly lost her mind by the time we get to the hospital
also the fact that if she just stayed put in the hospital and pretended to be innocent until sidney starts saying it was jill, jill can just say she had a lot of damage to her memory and that it was truly trevor and charlie but she lost her mind and was totally psycho to think of this
For Scream 2 I found out that Tobey Maguire was considered for the role Mickeys ghostface. That actually would've been pretty awesome.
You knew first ten minutes that Richie was one of the killers in 5? I actually felt the same about Amber cause when she was shown in her bedroom by the killer in her own closet I couldn’t help but think yeah she’s part of this.
I am obsessed with your shirt. “I have to go return some videotapes.” 😂
My ranking is
1. Billy
2. Stu
3. Mickey
4. Charlie
5. Roman
6. Jill
7. Richie
8. Mrs loomis
9. Amber
I absolutely love that Jill is your #1.
She played a psycho so well. But also played the "innocent victim" part well too, so much so that it's almost impossible to believe she's the puppet master when she's revealed as the killer.
I love that you went with the least popular opinion .
Scream 4 was such a great entry and Jill really carried that finale so well.
The self mutilation scene was crazy. The hospital sequence was incredible. She went from sweet and innocent to psychotic mess in the snap of a finger.
Emma Roberts is such a great actress and this movie proves it.
I would recommend the tv series, at least the first 2 for shits and giggles.
The third season was kind of a mess, by campy fun with nothing to do with the first 2 seasons.
I think you might actually like the first 2 seasons. There's carnage and candy.
And whoa at your subscriber count. It just keeps climbing.
Scream 4 is still one of my favorites I’ll never understand the hate it gets
Yeah me neither
Angelina was missing in here and i know... she isn't technically official but she defiantly helped roman in some capacity!!
Yeah I hate that they changed it to 1 killer last minute. There’s parts of the movie that don’t add up to just being Roman
@@austincaucci True. In one scene it's more than one GF, because we have them in two different places at the same time.
It's really refreshing to see a Ghostface ranking that doesn't have Billy and Stu in the top spots. Just because the original Scream is the best one (and an all-time classic) doesn't mean that there aren't other great Ghostface killers throughout the franchise.
Billy
Jill
Stu
Mickey
Richie
Mrs. Loomis
Roman
Charlie
Amber
Would rank the 3 seasons of the T.V. series Ghostface but nah
Thank you. Finally someone that doesn’t underrate Mickey as a killer and character.
However for your list I would swap Jill and Stu.
I don't know if I can rank them, but you're right about Jill's reveal being so shocking. Her self-mutilation scene is iconic!
Man you hit the nail on the head with this list Cody! I was curious to see how you placed the new killers from scream 5 as they were my least favourite out of the franchise, however I still really enjoyed the movie.
I am also a huge scream 4 fan and have it tied for first with scream 1.
I think we will all look back and feel lucky that we get to watch remakes of old horrors at the cinema with legacy characters coming back 🤘
9. Amber (Scream 2022)
8. Charlie (Scream 4)
7. Mrs. Loomis (Scream 2)
6. Richie (Scream 2022)
5. Mickey (Scream 2)
4. Roman (Scream 3)
3. Stu (Scream)
2. Billy (Scream)
1. Jill (Scream 4)
when I saw scream 4 in theaters, I knew by the 3rd death of her friend, Olivia, that it was Jill. She was distressed, just enough. She was mad at Sidney, just enough. She felt like she was acting with trying to shift any potential suspicion away from her.
I also thought about it in the way just after seeing Olivia's death, that the killer knew what they were watching in Jill's room, thus I felt there definitely are two killers and someone tipped off the other killer. I didn't see Kirby being a killer and Jill's personality was a bit drier and gothic, similar to Billy's.
Jill is the best for me! I know a lot of people don’t like scream 4 but Emma Roberts killed it as ghost face!
9. Amber
8. Charlie
7. Richie
6. Roman
5. Stu
4. Mrs. Loomis
3. Billy
2. Mickey
1. Jill
Honestly, I liked Amber a lot. She was a very crazy character and she did seem a bit intimidating.
RIGHT! AND HER REVEAL LIKE WHATTT
But she was barley in the movie
I also liked Amber, I really loved how she kept flipping from pleading for her life to full on crazy- Amber actually seemed like a psycho.
"Hey Mikey, we really loved how psychotic and hysterical you were in 'Hollywood'.....
Can you do that again?"
- Radio silence casting Mikey Madison as Amber
@@bubba8751 Indeed, that's the issue.
I knew it was Richie for sure when he looked concerned over the other Ghostface being shot (right before Dewey died).
15:20
Gotta agree here. This would have been an awesome end to the movie, and could have made for a very interesting and potentially unique sequel.
That being said, considering Scream 4 dind't do so well, it probably would have been too high a risk to take
Finally saw Scream 5. My order is:
1. Billy Loomis
2. Mrs. Loomis
3. Stu Macher
4. Jill Roberts
5. Mickey
6. Roman
7. Amber
8. Richie
9. Charlie
Here’s my ranking
1. Billy
2. Jill (literally one of the most psychotic characters of all time imo)
3. Mrs. Loomis
4. Stu
5. Richie
6. Mickey
7. Roman
8. Amber
9. Charlie
Put REPSEK on my man Stu's name
I totally agree with your list 💯
Honestly I hated Jill (sorry) and that's, I'll admit, because I'm not keen on Roberts at all. Billy & Mickey are top tier for me.
10. Angelina -- You kinda have to be dead-last when your role as the co-killer of Scream 3 has to be gleaned from secondary material rather than from the film itself.
9. Amber -- She suffers mainly from proving to be less interesting in her motivations than initially suggested. If her protective behavior over Tara had been somewhat genuine, she would be higher on the list, but instead, she has no unique motive.
8. Mickey -- I really considered putting him last. He feels like a Xerox of Billy Loomis, but without the more personal motive. Out of all the possible suspects in Scream 2, he was one of the least-interesting choices. (Lousy rewrites...)
7. Roman -- Everything about him was just a bit too contrived, and he was fairly forgettable before the reveal. But he was one of the most clever killers, so he has to get some credit.
6. Charlie -- His big reveal was so good that it makes up for his shortcomings otherwise. His main weakness is that he is a little overshadowed by his fellow film nerds.
5. Richie -- His motives weren't all that different from those seen in Scream 4. That said, he captured that incensed fanboy energy quite well, which gives him a slight edge over Charlie.
4. Debbie -- Good old-fashioned revenge might not be the sort of meta-motive we expect from Scream killers, but the idea of a vengeful mother on a murder spree is a wonderful nod to Friday the 13th.
3. Billy -- He's certainly the most intimidating villain of the series, but the details revealed in Scream 3 retroactively made his motives less compelling than they were when the first film existed on its own.
2. Jill -- She has perhaps the best motive of any killer in the series, and she is wonderfully crazy. It's like the best of Billy and Stu in one character. That said, pure scenery-chewing has to win out in the end, and that goes to...
1. Stu -- Few horror movie serial killers are as fun as Stu. 'Nuff said.
in no particular ordeer
heres how i look at it
billy and stu - the most intimidating and charasmtic duo and scary
mickey and billys mother ms loomis - the most evil and cold hearted brutal/gore killing ghostfaces
roman - the most resilient, and superhuman and strong and intelligent ghostface
jill and charles - the most selfish and egotistical ghostfaces
amber and richie - the most lunatic and psycho ghostfaces
Lol go by what the movie tells you not the original script plans, angelina was not a killer. Give roman credit for being the only solo killer of the series and most intelligent
I know that I am late to the party. I just found your videos really enjoyed them, loved that you Ranking the Killers of scream awesome job!
Mickey is a underrated Ghostface
He’s so goood!!!
Very underrated!
Mickey was a dumbass! Someone should've explained to the kid, the point to being a Ghostface is to get 'away' with the murders. Not go on trial and blame the movies for it! Even Stu, who was no brain surgeon, understood the importance of this.
@@QoQabai658 you seemed a bit bothered that Mickey wanted to get caught lol
@@woodsborosfinest625 Get me a few drinks and I'll tell you how I really feel. 😏
I loved the first two seasons of the scream tv series. I thought it was really good it was brutal and had lots of blood and great kill scenes and imo great reveals of the killers I was generally shocked. I recommend it❤️❤️
Yup. First 2 seasons were pretty damn good, I thought. Season 3... I try to pretend I never watched that dumpster fire.
I completely agree. Hopefully Cody gives first 2 seasons a chance. I think he would appreciate it especially sinc3 ghost face kills are very different then just stabby stabby. Very inventive and original and I know sometimes that’s a criticism that Cody has of the movies’ ghost face
Here’s my ranking
9. Amber
Motive was incredibly weak in my opinion and she was just very annoying.
8. Richie
Same thing with Amber but his reveal was more surprising I think.
7. Charlie
He’s just kinda there and I think he’s kinda annoying.
6. Roman
He’s just kinda whiny but that’s really it. This is the point where I start liking everyone.
5. Stu
I like him but he didn’t really have much of a motive
4. Mrs Loomis
Her motive made a lot of sense and Laurie Metcalf (probably spelled that wrong) I think did a good job.
3. Mickey
I think he’s just a better version of Stu.
2. Billy
Easily the best motive and he’s a good character.
1. Jill
Best surprise, kills and all of her memorable lines.
Jill didn't kill a single person (as Ghostface)
@@Trill_Tour LOL what? she shot Trevor in the head and killed Charlie in the same scene
@@Luke101 Neither of those were as Ghostface
Most importantly, Jill (unlike all the others) wasn't crazy. She was evil. This girl had no problem murdering her own mother for the price of petty fame. She wasn't a mentally unbalanced psychopath, she was a psychologically calculating sociopath with no conscience. She was the Devil.
I liked Richie and Amber's reason. Sure it was stupid but I liked how this movie addresses how toxic fanbases can be.
Will we ever get a review for the mtv scream series just for fun lol. Love your video man 🦾😎
I just wanna thank you for the awesome content man!! Like I really look forward to watching your videos everyday
In terms of reveal, Stu is no doubt the best as we were not aware that there were 2 killers
Great video. Love the content Cody. Thanks.✌
The only thing I can’t get behind with Mickey is that after the cafeteria scene, he’s not in the movie until his reveal. That’s a good chunk of the film where this prominent character is no where to be seen. But besides that I do like him as a Ghostface
I agree. When i saw scream2 in theatre and mickey was revealed as the killer i remember thinking “wait, who even is that?? Ohh yea”
Was I the only one who thought Richie looks like Stu, therefore thought it was stu’s son, therefore early on figuring out he is Ghostface?
Hot take: amber is the most underrated ghost face.
She had the most kills in scream 5. She is the ghost face who kills Dewey for real. She is the ghost face who taught Sam & Tara the importance of going for the head. Her entire motive is that the idea of being a ghost face is fun. She isn’t a super fan like Richie but she isn’t too pressured into it like Stu or Mickey. She is just there cause she enjoys it. That is terrifying!
The only positive thing I can say about the TV series is with the first two seasons, the ghost face kills are more creative and inventive than the movies. So if you can find a kill comp, I'd suggest just watching that.
Great vid. My ranking is:
9 Charlie
8 Roman
7 Mrs Loomis
6 Mickey
5 Ritchie
4 Amber
3 Stu
2 Jill
1 Billy
my ranking is Roman, Ms Loomis, Mickie, Amber, Charlie, Billy, Tie between Stu and Jill, then Richie
9:40 My favourite Stu line is "Fuckin hit me with the phone dick."
It's one of my favorites too. Matthew did excellent at improvising at that scene, since it wasn't in the script, but the phone slipped out of Skeet's hand, because of the fake blood and hit Matthew instead of the table.
The show is not perfect but it’s entertaining. The core trio is solid, and the Movie Nerd character was the highlight of the show in terms of both writing and performance. The killers were mostly effective, Season One’s villain was surprising but not unbelievable and Season Two’s killer was a fitting conclusion to that character’s arc. The kills are mostly pretty good by the standards of an MTV show. Overall i would say it’s good enough to recommend to even a casual Scream fan, as long as you keep reasonable expectations
15:07 that exactly was initial Williamson's idea for a new trilogy as far as I know.
Producers said no, and Scream's 3 writer did some rewrites, probablyu the whole hospital scene.
As much as I like it, it would be great to have an open ending.
I have a feeling Radio Silence will now go this route
I just wanna wake up in a world one day where Charlie Walker gets the respect he deserves as Ghostface. At this point how he's perceived in the horror community is becoming criminal. Kirby isn't the character she is without him.
I agree in fact he did all of the killings as Ghostface and was surprisingly strong for a dude his size and he was incredibly sneaky and was able to break into peoples homes and plant evidence in Sidney’s car in public im assuming and he was well versed in horror I actually have him above Jill and stuff
Charlie is the part i do not like about Kirby. Their flirting was cringey AF.
@@Hellstothenaw why? go into detail
The character is so underdeveloped and not memorable in any way shape or form. He does have some of the best kills but we don't see Charlie in the Ghostface costume. Obviously the one where he kills the friend next door is one of the best kills of the franchise. I don't think Charlie killed Alison Brie. That was Jill. He does kill the cops. Honestly the body count isn't very high. Aside from that one brutal kill Charlie didn't really kill anyone.
@@benjaminmartinez1638 Jill was in the hospital and was surrounded by people and cameras how in tf would she be able to get the Ghostface costume and knife while all that is going on the only person who would have had access to the costume at that time was Charlie he could have easily snuck off from Robbie
I love stu when he said my mom and dad are gonna be mad at me makes me laugh
Cody your the man keep up the great work bro
If you go back and watch the movies, Roman is pretty much the only killer who maintains his strength, speed, and physicality once the mask comes off. Most of the time with these killers, once the mask comes off, it seems like they are not quite as fast or strong and a bit more clumsy than when they have the mask on. But not with Roman. The fight scene with him and Sidney is intense.
One of the reasons why I consider Roman to be the best Ghostface
@@FanaticMitchell1 IMO, Roman is the best Ghostface, also.
It still surprises me that a lot of people rank Charlie low on their lists. He's probably the most underrated killer in the franchise, in my opinion. I honestly have him third place in my ranking.
Ppl have him low because his motive is stupid although I’ll say this and I’ll never argue anyone about his character he has one of the best kills in the franchise being Olivia he’s brutal but that’s really it nothing else plus he’s dumb he got taken out so fast all because he wanted a gf💀
I partly understand, because he is just a lacky.
However, I'm more than positive he did like 90% of the kills and that alone should have put him higher.
@@BrandonJames2016 Yeah, I agree that he doesn't have that good of a motive and is just more of a follower, but we can say that about a few others too.
@@jaysarandrea yeah but at least they were entertaining like Stu was the lackey but his dark humor is top tier, Mickey was a straight up psycho with an interesting motive that could potentially work, Amber killed Dewey but that’s it
@@ProphetMisfit09 I’m pretty sure he did all the kills as ghostface.
1. Jill Roberts
2. Billy Loomis
3. Stu Macher
4. Mrs. Loomis
5. Mickey Altieri
6. Amber Freeman
7. Richie Kirsch
8. Roman Bridger
9. Charlie Walker
I loved every single one except Roman and Charlie
Charlie would have been a legendary killer in the series if he was the one to be the main killer in number 4.
Have him reenact Billy stabbing Stu and say I have seen this movie before and I am not Stu or Micky.
omg I am so HAPPY about your top choice, it's also my top killer, as it's by far the least expected one, and she is just so cool being so crazy (for sure wouldn't think that were she my sister or a friend lol)
RUclips actually spoiled me for scream 5 so I watched it knowing all the killers. RUclips sucks when it comes to spoilers. I was searching scream 4 and then it showed me scream 5 reveal. RUclips sucks sometimes
I’m so happy that Jill gets so much praise from fans- she really was the best ghostface, and she almost got away with it!
And I kinda liked Amber- in hindsight my her manipulation of Sam and Tara… and then how she flips from trying to manipulate sid/gale on the porch… and then AGAIN pleading for her life… Amber was so crazy, I dont think that makes her a good ghostface necessarily, but she was definitely one of the crazier ones
YES Jill should have gotten away from her.The scenes of her beating herself up was chilling
Really good ranking, Cody. It’s hard for me to rank the killers since I like all of them, but I’d say Stu is my favorite due to his goofiness and yet still being a killer in general.
1. Mickey Altieri
2. Billy Loomis
3. Stu Macher
4. Roman Bridger
5. Amber Freeman
6. Richie Kirsch
7. Charlie Walker
8. Jill Roberts
9. Mrs. Loomis