I’ve been following you since your early days ..and i have to give to you are one of the best youtuber when it comes reviewing cars! The amount of work you put in your videos and editing..no one understands.I wish you all the best my friend ad hope you get to 10 million sub.keep up the good work!
Love my E53 as well, It can be a hooligan when you want to push it but it can be also a "economical" for the power (38.9 mpg on return trip from Leeds to London). Yes i understand it is not a E63s or a RS6. But love my AMG convertible E53 ..
Is it really terrible of me to say, I would take this over an E63S any day? I just love the sound of 6 cylinders, the E53 costs less, it seems naturally more comfortable and you still get the AMG looks and practicality of an E63 estate/wagon.
I chose the E53 over and E63, for 2 reasons. The AWD in a coupe is nice, price, and comfort. I made the right choice, both friends with an e63 love the coupe body line! I would prefer some of the snarls of a v8 but you can't have it all sometimes.
Same. There's no point paying a £30k premium for a load of power and performance you can't legally use in the UK anyway. The E53 isn't exactly slow! Perfect family car.
Awesome to meet at MBW today, and re-unite you with our E53 and the very car you reviewed here back in 2021. My son was over the moon (hid it so well tho!)
I think he had a lot of problems with it, window being smashed and stuff. And he wanted to wait for the 73 since the GT 63s is more or less a styled E63s.
@@dvicejoya9672 Hi, thanks for your reply and the info. I was especially interested in this car that why I wanted to see in depth how he got on with it. Shame he didnt do a video to show the whole picture. Regards Angus
Comes down to what you value more, driving experience or appearances. Take the RS6, drives nicely and looks better. I'll take the E63s, it looks worse but the driving experience is more engaging.
You mentioned the RS6 and BMW but what about the Panamera wagon 4, 4s, gts, turbo, turbo e-hybrid as well as the taycan sport turismo ev. Pretty compelling stuff right there as competitors.
Does the car have a particulate filter in the exhaust? I ask because those exhaust pops etc sound fake. Otherwise I think it’s wonderful! With love, Ken
Hi we have had our c43 convertible for 3 years and started thinking about replacing it with e53. How are your impressions after this switch, particularly in comfort department?
@@patryksobanski473 I must say, it is SIGNIFICANTLY, more comfortable. I went from a 2016 e550 to a c43 and loved the switch. It was much more nimble, but now that I'm back in an E, especially the 53 with all the bells and whistles, it's been a nice change. The ride is much smoother, the sound is more muted however, so be warned..
@@middle-earthtroll5024 thank you for your answer. My idea is to replace both c43 and audi a8 with a cabriolet, which is more comfortable on long journeys than c43. E53 seems the best option but we are waiting for an official debut of new sl though...
Simply loving it. I watched this review before the test drive and have just watched it again having bought a new one. What a great car. Feels bigger than XJR and S6 but I love it. So planted. Still learning my way around it. Can't get the exhaust to pop quite like on this review, may have to give it more beans. Interestingly I've noticed the engine note improves with better fuel. There are a few BP stations selling 105 octane fuel. It's like lightening in a bottle. Great review, thanks
Great review Raz. If you could have one AMG car as a true daily, what would you get? Track needs excluded. Would it be a 53 or 63? SUV, Wagon or Sedan?
Nice one, Raz! I'll give you a big thumbs up, simply because you didn't jump on the manufacturers bandwagon and call this a 'Shooting brake' like everyone does with wagons, lately!!🙄Cheers.
Sorry raz, I am confused with Mercedes, the new c class has the all new system just like the one in the s class and the E class has the old system , help,
@Maverick not sure tbh 🤷🏾♂️ maybe I missed that.. I took him to mean that there's no other hybrids when he said there's no direct competitor.. But that said, comparing to other non hybrids seems reasonable, if if he doesn't see then as "direct competitors", they're certainly competitors none the less, however he sees them.. He must have meant something when he said "direct"... But if you or anyone else feels that cars like the BMW and Audi are direct competitors, you'd be justified in saying that I guess 🤷🏾♂️
I have one... having hyrbid battery issues, but might be resolved now. It hits bumps too hard around town, and those run flat pirellis are horrible.. its a great driving car, very precise on the highway, goes where you point it, its quick, its fun.. I love it for the most part... also i can get 1000+ km on a tank of gas on the highway.
This is indeed a great car.Yes no direct rivals in this wagon category. But I'm afraid and though I'm an AMG fan but the light M cars with their V8 are much more powerful and faster; An X5M50i with it's 500+ hp roaring V8 would make a GLE53 look like a malnourished kid in comparison. The same goes with 550i vs E53, the 5 series will simply demolish the E class. Unlike the full fat AMG as they are indeed worthy opponent for their respective M rival.
Hi. I’m looking to buying one of these and just wondered if you know if the latest 2022 model comes with the the 12.3 inch screens I’ve heard they have been dropped to 10.23 inch screens for the E53 and only available for the E63s just wondered if you can confirm this? By the way great video very informative. Cheers Steven.
So mate tell me where you can Legal use the power speed outside race track . Why are you and most of car reviews Obsessed with Speed and Power Race mode Sport plus etc .Don’t get me wrong car is great but I would go for the All Terrain or BMW Alpina estate .
It's originally an AMG channel so what do you expect??? Also I have an AMG and have used it on track / drag several times and get to enjoy the performance frequently out on country roads.
Hi raz thanks for another nice video seems like u r hardcore AMG fan boy nothing wrong in it I agree to u the interior looks awesome and sound but for power and presence I think bmw m 550 is the one for me sedan doesn’t matter
I was informed (or maybe mislead or misinformed) that race mode is not available until the software recognises that 1500km have been driven? 🤷♂️ I have viewed a brand new model available for sale here in the uk which does have the round steering wheel mounted controls for drive mode and exhaust etc 🤷♂️
hi Mr amg i have a question and am hoping u can answer that with all honestly am thinking about tuning my cla250 2018 and am hesitating the car is very valuable for me and if I do anything that breaks it I don't have any other car to replace it can u give me the history of tuning a car since I noticed u do have tuned many of ur cars does the tuning really breaks the car in the long run or cut off it age, for example, a car runs 5 years it will lower it by 4 or more any extra info u can give me to lean forward or away from a tune is appreciated
I don’t think tuning a cla250 will give you what your looking for as it has a fairly weak 4 cylinder with a small turbo. An ecu update might bring the horsepower to 250 but that wouldn’t make any real difference. I’d trade in the cla250 for an older e450, go to a non luxury brand for cheap speed, or wait until you can afford an entry level amg
Same！ Unfortunately Mercedes screwed up a little bit. I heard that they seriously delayed the production of GLE63s Coupe and a lot of customers are not happy about that. They put the 53 at first place because more orders coming in than the flagship 63s models.
Am I the only one that utterly hates carbon fiber trims? I'd much rather have some nice burl walnut wood or black/gray open pore wood for a sporty spec? Even aluminum is better
Nobody talks about fuel consumption. And thats a reason because the consumption in E43 or E53 is very very high. My friend has the E53 and with normal driving it goes never under 12 liters. Its too much. Btw The E63s needs 2 liters more.
Best digital dashboard? Dont agree. Lexus digital dashboard with the sideways moving speedometer is still the best out there. Shame more manufacturers didnt copy it. Once you've seen it in action....
12:30 In the 90's youd think the Japanese would be doing this now. Germans? NEVER The Japanese cant hold a candle to the Germans its like what the hell happened. They got way to American.
Prefer the wagon. Really?? Practicality yeah okay. But who buys an AMG for practicality. With kids, saloon. All others got to be the sexy looking coupe. Only problem is trying to get hold of one ………… lead time 8 months aaaarrrgh.
I beg to differ, from what I've seen a modified RS6 is the BOSS in its class but has been cuffed by Audi due to its in house halo super car and sister brand Lamborghini. Both Audi and AMG make the best V8s tho
@Maverick no the E63 has higher power than the halo AMG GTR Mercedes has no barrier between its cars, Audi clearly has a pecking order both in house and within the VW group and that's as clear as day. IE the Golf R is shackled Vs the more expensive "halo" RS5 and it's five cylinders in sister brand Audi. The RS6 'let lose' obliterates the M5 comp, clearly both it and it's RS7 sister are deeply reserved for branding. Doesn't mean I don't love the AMG but facts are facts.
@Maverick Don't bring your FAN BOY bullshyte to me that's like bringing a knife to a gun fight The E63s AMG has been the only variant available since 2017 and trying to separate it from the lower powered E63 AMG is akin to telling all car journalist to only compare the AMG A45 to its rivals as the A45s is some kind of "special" one off model You're an idiot - clearly Furthermore more the black series is track special released almost 7 years after the models introduction barely relevant to the FACT AMG don't bracket models by power, Audi/VW clearly DO. IE new RS3 looked at 400hp nothing to do with A45s, but everything to do with the RS4 and 5 sitting above. Who in turn don't encroach on the RS6 & 7 WHO inturn are shackled by the performance of their engine sharing cousin the Lamborghini Urus Do u understand?
@Maverick that's NOT the point The point is for instance the new RS6/7 are blantantly shackled by Audi so as not to step on the toes if it's engine sharing cousin the Lamborghini Urus. Mercedes DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE hence the aforementioned E63s suggested "best in class by RBR" around the ring is relevant due to it Merc not holding it back. Every review on the RS6 explained the car is handcuffed EVERY ONE Once let lose its a more capable car than all its rivals - FACT That has nothing to do with quarter mile runs tunes - I'm talking about all aspects of the car.
Bring back the IWC clock, 12 o'clock marker and controls for passenger seat.
I’ve been following you since your early days ..and i have to give to you are one of the best youtuber when it comes reviewing cars!
The amount of work you put in your videos and editing..no one understands.I wish you all the best my friend ad hope you get to 10 million sub.keep up the good work!
Love my E53 as well, It can be a hooligan when you want to push it but it can be also a "economical" for the power (38.9 mpg on return trip from Leeds to London). Yes i understand it is not a E63s or a RS6. But love my AMG convertible E53 ..
Is it really terrible of me to say, I would take this over an E63S any day? I just love the sound of 6 cylinders, the E53 costs less, it seems naturally more comfortable and you still get the AMG looks and practicality of an E63 estate/wagon.
I chose the E53 over and E63, for 2 reasons. The AWD in a coupe is nice, price, and comfort. I made the right choice, both friends with an e63 love the coupe body line! I would prefer some of the snarls of a v8 but you can't have it all sometimes.
Same. There's no point paying a £30k premium for a load of power and performance you can't legally use in the UK anyway. The E53 isn't exactly slow! Perfect family car.
@@oliversmiddy840 Must be nice to live in a place where there's only £30k difference between the E53 and E63S.
@@ralentinovossi8081 When the minimum is fully loaded
And it's not a gas guzzler!! Perfect for a business man like my dad
Their I6 sounds amazinggggg
It's v6
@@DaleSteel Inline 6.
@@johnguidetti5839 wow didn't know they'd replaced the v6 didn't think it was that old. The reason for v6 was more room for hybrid stuff.
@@DaleSteel 43 is v6, 45 is 4cyl, 53 is i6 and 63 is v8 haha super confusing
@@racekorthings7165 new C43 and C63 will both be 4cyl hybrids 😥
Awesome to meet at MBW today, and re-unite you with our E53 and the very car you reviewed here back in 2021. My son was over the moon (hid it so well tho!)
I'm surprised at how good it sounds, seems louder and more aggressive than the new M3/M4.
As much as an amg fan, I would still go for a m550i...it has a V8. And imo it's better than an M5 as a daily...no that this is bad in anyway...
Great review as usual. Why did you get rid of your GT 4door and have you done a video about its departure?
I think he had a lot of problems with it, window being smashed and stuff. And he wanted to wait for the 73 since the GT 63s is more or less a styled E63s.
@@dvicejoya9672 Hi, thanks for your reply and the info. I was especially interested in this car that why I wanted to see in depth how he got on with it. Shame he didnt do a video to show the whole picture. Regards Angus
cant get over the rear, looks like a hearse
Always been the case with e class wagons
Comes down to what you value more, driving experience or appearances. Take the RS6, drives nicely and looks better. I'll take the E63s, it looks worse but the driving experience is more engaging.
Can't get over how bIind you are
Very professional, unlike many others. Always enjoy your reviews 👌
unlike matt watson
The brown looks better in person. Camera washes it out a bit. It's actually a shade or two darker.
It's beautiful & more fun to drive for me than any SUV
Great review and as always Mercedes leading the way in design and interior,, pity we don't have a market for Estates in South Africa
the all-black style suits the E53 very good! i love it!
I love that little GT Black Series!!!
You mentioned the RS6 and BMW but what about the Panamera wagon 4, 4s, gts, turbo, turbo e-hybrid as well as the taycan sport turismo ev. Pretty compelling stuff right there as competitors.
The Bananamera is quite a bit more expensive like for like though.
I have this very car Raz tested. A well-balanced, practical, reasonably economical and decent performing AMG T-Model package out there right now
wow those special effects are really something. well done
How aren't these comfort seats fitted with the cooling function as standard at this price
Not a option in Uk. Other countries have it.
Does the car have a particulate filter in the exhaust? I ask because those exhaust pops etc sound fake. Otherwise I think it’s wonderful! With love, Ken
Yes it does. Pops are coming from the engine- but of course are mapped in .
Just got my 2021 E53 coupe, thanks to your great reviews, very happy with it and a big step up from my c43
Hi we have had our c43 convertible for 3 years and started thinking about replacing it with e53. How are your impressions after this switch, particularly in comfort department?
@@patryksobanski473 I must say, it is SIGNIFICANTLY, more comfortable. I went from a 2016 e550 to a c43 and loved the switch. It was much more nimble, but now that I'm back in an E, especially the 53 with all the bells and whistles, it's been a nice change. The ride is much smoother, the sound is more muted however, so be warned..
@@middle-earthtroll5024 thank you for your answer. My idea is to replace both c43 and audi a8 with a cabriolet, which is more comfortable on long journeys than c43. E53 seems the best option but we are waiting for an official debut of new sl though...
@@patryksobanski473 You can't go wrong with either, good luck on your search!
@@middle-earthtroll5024 Thank you for your feedback and greetings from Poland!
Nice thing about the clean brown interior option is you don't have the busy stitching+piping.
Simply loving it. I watched this review before the test drive and have just watched it again having bought a new one. What a great car. Feels bigger than XJR and S6 but I love it. So planted. Still learning my way around it. Can't get the exhaust to pop quite like on this review, may have to give it more beans. Interestingly I've noticed the engine note improves with better fuel. There are a few BP stations selling 105 octane fuel. It's like lightening in a bottle.
Great review, thanks
Pollen is giving me no probelm whatsoever, great job on this one!
Agreed. The c class looks like it has all the S class fruit and e class class looks behind.
Great review Raz. If you could have one AMG car as a true daily, what would you get? Track needs excluded. Would it be a 53 or 63? SUV, Wagon or Sedan?
63s wagen id expect
Nice one, Raz! I'll give you a big thumbs up, simply because you didn't jump on the manufacturers bandwagon and call this a 'Shooting brake' like everyone does with wagons, lately!!🙄Cheers.
Imagine this being a 73e...
"slowly becoming best manufacturer of fast wagons?" Didn't they invent them and haven't they always been on top in the wagon category?!?
audi maybe?
Audi invented them With the rs2 and dominanted with the legendary rs4 b5
@@tormoz.96 forgot they made b5 wagon in europe. that would be dope. wasnt merc doing hammer wagons and E-wagons before the rs2?
Why is the front camera properly placed (centered) on the E53 and not the E63?
Sorry raz, I am confused with Mercedes, the new c class has the all new system just like the one in the s class and the E class has the old system , help,
The C-Class is brand new for 2022 (US). The S-Class is brand new for 2021 (US). The E-Class won't be brand new until 2024 (US).
Imagine they bring back v8 with 6.2 liters legend of engines😬
We can only imagine
Sad but true…
@@jestesvetako8803 hope they bring some kinda new fuel..... anything but electric
@@roshanbamudhappa2424 yes electric ist dumb shit you have no feeling when you drive a car🤦🏻♂️
You said bmw has no competition to this, what about the m550i wagon?
There is no 550i wagon, it’s saloon only (in the UK at least).
@@oliversmiddy840 whaat, we have m550i wagon in Norway, as well as m550d
@@oliversmiddy840 I take that back, we only have the m550i sedan and you could get an m550d wagon before but now it’s gone
A BMW M550 ESTATE would be a direct competitor. Or alpina b5 wagon
I think he meant there's no other hybrids 🤷🏾♂️
M550i Touring will eat this AMG with its 530 hp and 750 nm
@Maverick not sure tbh 🤷🏾♂️ maybe I missed that.. I took him to mean that there's no other hybrids when he said there's no direct competitor.. But that said, comparing to other non hybrids seems reasonable, if if he doesn't see then as "direct competitors", they're certainly competitors none the less, however he sees them.. He must have meant something when he said "direct"... But if you or anyone else feels that cars like the BMW and Audi are direct competitors, you'd be justified in saying that I guess 🤷🏾♂️
@Maverick fair enough, I guess that answers the initial comment as to why he said there's no direct competitors
@@TECHMT9 BMW don't offer an M550i Touring in any market.
I have one... having hyrbid battery issues, but might be resolved now. It hits bumps too hard around town, and those run flat pirellis are horrible.. its a great driving car, very precise on the highway, goes where you point it, its quick, its fun.. I love it for the most part... also i can get 1000+ km on a tank of gas on the highway.
Hi! What is your fuel consumption in town and highway?
This is indeed a great car.Yes no direct rivals in this wagon category. But I'm afraid and though I'm an AMG fan but the light M cars with their V8 are much more powerful and faster;
An X5M50i with it's 500+ hp roaring V8 would make a GLE53 look like a malnourished kid in comparison.
The same goes with 550i vs E53, the 5 series will simply demolish the E class.
Unlike the full fat AMG as they are indeed worthy opponent for their respective M rival.
I think a porshe panamera 4s gran turismo might be a good rival, but price wise its on another level
yes alpina makes them even better, 600hp 320kmh max speed...
amazing video as always... thanks :-)
Hi.
I’m looking to buying one of these and just wondered if you know if the latest 2022 model comes with the the 12.3 inch screens I’ve heard they have been dropped to 10.23 inch screens for the E53 and only available for the E63s just wondered if you can confirm this?
By the way great video very informative.
Cheers Steven.
I love the M suitcase ...
My most perfect car. Would take that over E63 - too much drama there.
So mate tell me where you can Legal use the power speed outside race track . Why are you and most of car reviews Obsessed with Speed and Power Race mode Sport plus etc .Don’t get me wrong car is great but I would go for the All Terrain or BMW Alpina estate .
It’s a nice thing to know that u could do it even if u don’t use it
It's originally an AMG channel so what do you expect???
Also I have an AMG and have used it on track / drag several times and get to enjoy the performance frequently out on country roads.
I want to see the new gen c43/53 the w206 (2022) version, when is it going to be revealed? uhhhhh
Hi raz thanks for another nice video seems like u r hardcore AMG fan boy nothing wrong in it I agree to u the interior looks awesome and sound but for power and presence I think bmw m 550 is the one for me sedan doesn’t matter
Gosh the facelift actually looks good on the estate lol
@removebeforerace amazing car! Which black colour is that? Is it the regular black or obsidian black?
I was informed (or maybe mislead or misinformed) that race mode is not available until the software recognises that 1500km have been driven? 🤷♂️
I have viewed a brand new model available for sale here in the uk which does have the round steering wheel mounted controls for drive mode and exhaust etc 🤷♂️
When you talk about BMW, do you also count with ALPINA?
the blacked-out look makes it remind me of Darth Vader, not sure why.
Second hand RS6, new BMW 550 / 540i estate both likely competition for cross shopping?
Thinking a 540i and e53 are similar because they have 6 cylinder engines is hilarious 😂 You know how boring the rental car 540i is?
Let me guess before you start... you are buying one right?????? Would not be surprised
Why would I want the added weight of the batteries?
I hope you can also turn of those childish pops and bangs
hi Mr amg i have a question and am hoping u can answer that with all honestly am thinking about tuning my cla250 2018 and am hesitating the car is very valuable for me and if I do anything that breaks it I don't have any other car to replace it can u give me the history of tuning a car since I noticed u do have tuned many of ur cars does the tuning really breaks the car in the long run or cut off it age, for example, a car runs 5 years it will lower it by 4 or more any extra info u can give me to lean forward or away from a tune is appreciated
I don’t think tuning a cla250 will give you what your looking for as it has a fairly weak 4 cylinder with a small turbo. An ecu update might bring the horsepower to 250 but that wouldn’t make any real difference. I’d trade in the cla250 for an older e450, go to a non luxury brand for cheap speed, or wait until you can afford an entry level amg
Sounds great for being an opf car!
looks good
Petition to get the new GLE63s coupe reviewed :) !!!
Same！ Unfortunately Mercedes screwed up a little bit. I heard that they seriously delayed the production of GLE63s Coupe and a lot of customers are not happy about that. They put the 53 at first place because more orders coming in than the flagship 63s models.
Can you do a video about opfs and how europe is destroying their cars sounds
They're destroying it with their ridiculous push for EVs.
Guys does the cabriolet version of this car have the AMG Dynamic Package available in the UK? Or is it for ALL 53 models that it’s not available?
They have a SE package now
Can we stop using those rims?
@Remove Before Race why don't they have the IWC Clock in them anymore ?
bmw does have a competitor. It’s the m550i wagon
Am I the only one that utterly hates carbon fiber trims? I'd much rather have some nice burl walnut wood or black/gray open pore wood for a sporty spec? Even aluminum is better
U can clearly tell he is a big merc fanboy at the start 😂😂
Nobody talks about fuel consumption. And thats a reason because the consumption in E43 or E53 is very very high. My friend has the E53 and with normal driving it goes never under 12 liters. Its too much.
Btw The E63s needs 2 liters more.
Mercedes is 100% the best!
RAZ WHEN S YOUR GT-BLACK SERIES COMING??👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽NICE CONTENT 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👌🏽👌🏽
What’s the tire size?
this is not the EU version I think, the sound is to loud?
I'm wondering that too, im driving the eu version in Germany with the performance Exhaust, it was significantly quieter
Awesome video...but not big fan of 43/53...performance is generally disappointing compared to its closest rival...if thier are no direct competitors.
Beautiful car
FRONT LOOKS STILL FRESH... BUT BACK OF CAR LOOK BIT OLD ;(
Sounds much nicer than the e63s
It's louder than the e63s
I can’t imagine anyone actually being in the market for this car tho
Best digital dashboard? Dont agree. Lexus digital dashboard with the sideways moving speedometer is still the best out there. Shame more manufacturers didnt copy it. Once you've seen it in action....
Nice💕
It sucks that all the models look so similar...
RS4 is the competitor to E53
No it’s not. The Audi 4-series is equivalent to the Merc C-series. The most direct competitor is the Audi S6, but that’s a diesel.
Does the E53 have launch controll?
Yes
@@fardin_hossain No. I own a E53
No
I would love to own such things
my money is on the cla shooting brake
BMW might not have a wagon but the M550 with a twin-turbo V8 will blow the doors off the EQ boosted V6 E53 and sound better doing it.
Eid Mubarak
We need Sl73e review
Cant wait to see how the new SL/GT platforms ends. It's going to be monstrously fast.
Weather in Germany? 🤔
it looks like a catafalque))
1:00 m550 hello?
Love the exhaust tips. Fake tips should be banned.
They're still fake - ish
BMW offers the m550 with 530hp and the same price, so the merc is pretty useless
Next time you open the door of your 85k+ “bmw” wiggle the door handle a bit. Be careful though, it might fall right off. Bmw is junk.
The car is fast and gets a lot better gas mileage than your M550. Have fun at the gas station.
You should rather stay in the car, when you get out, not look back.
M550i, alpina b5 lol
Estate!!!
8:30 min - 😆
Almost coincidence parents to get this over the gle450. Unfortunate no available stock ended that.🥲
マットブルーが、似合う。😊
Audi most beautiful wagon car
But not nearly as good
Tbh, it’s not that impressive visually to me. But then again not many wagons do it for me, I guess
Surprisingly under powered for an AMG straight 6...
The V6 43 used to have 396 hp, so it's more than that.
It can be tuned to 500hp for stage one and 570 with stage 2
12:30 In the 90's youd think the Japanese would be doing this now. Germans? NEVER The Japanese cant hold a candle to the Germans its like what the hell happened. They got way to American.
Prefer the wagon. Really?? Practicality yeah okay. But who buys an AMG for practicality. With kids, saloon. All others got to be the sexy looking coupe. Only problem is trying to get hold of one ………… lead time 8 months aaaarrrgh.
I beg to differ, from what I've seen a modified RS6 is the BOSS in its class but has been cuffed by Audi due to its in house halo super car and sister brand Lamborghini.
Both Audi and AMG make the best V8s tho
@Maverick no the E63 has higher power than the halo AMG GTR
Mercedes has no barrier between its cars, Audi clearly has a pecking order both in house and within the VW group and that's as clear as day.
IE the Golf R is shackled Vs the more expensive "halo" RS5 and it's five cylinders in sister brand Audi.
The RS6 'let lose' obliterates the M5 comp, clearly both it and it's RS7 sister are deeply reserved for branding.
Doesn't mean I don't love the AMG but facts are facts.
@Maverick
Don't bring your FAN BOY bullshyte to me that's like bringing a knife to a gun fight
The E63s AMG has been the only variant available since 2017 and trying to separate it from the lower powered E63 AMG is akin to telling all car journalist to only compare the AMG A45 to its rivals as the A45s is some kind of "special" one off model
You're an idiot - clearly
Furthermore more the black series is track special released almost 7 years after the models introduction barely relevant to the FACT AMG don't bracket models by power, Audi/VW clearly DO.
IE new RS3 looked at 400hp nothing to do with A45s, but everything to do with the RS4 and 5 sitting above. Who in turn don't encroach on the RS6 & 7 WHO inturn are shackled by the performance of their engine sharing cousin the Lamborghini Urus
Do u understand?
@Maverick lol deleting my post now THAT'S some fanboy bull
@Maverick that's NOT the point
The point is for instance the new RS6/7 are blantantly shackled by Audi so as not to step on the toes if it's engine sharing cousin the Lamborghini Urus.
Mercedes DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE hence the aforementioned E63s suggested "best in class by RBR" around the ring is relevant due to it Merc not holding it back.
Every review on the RS6 explained the car is handcuffed EVERY ONE
Once let lose its a more capable car than all its rivals - FACT
That has nothing to do with quarter mile runs tunes - I'm talking about all aspects of the car.
@Maverick no it's not
RBR mentioned the capability of the E63s Vs RS6 and M5 comp, despite covering the 53amg that's all the relevance right there