Seems like a great app! Although you said it's probably not worth it buying the Quest 3 just for that, it definetly is an argument along others. Good luck learning the piano, it's never too late for sure!
It was a good app, but now they put everything behind a paywall, a monthly subscription on top of the app purchase. It was all included, song and features. But now they put everything behind a paywall everybody is requesting a refund.
Thanks for the review, I've had piano lessons and stopped recently. I've bought a quest 3 and I'm looking at getting this for some fun anime music too :)
you'd have to play the same song over and over for a week straight if you want to learn it without using the headset. you can't treat it like a game. this review is 2 months old maybe your experience has changed. meta could sell so many more headsets if they promoted this at every music store across the world.. something tech companies would actually do back in the day. quest3 should technically be what guitar hero was 15 ish years ago, and vr music education could honestly be much bigger than guitar hero ever was. crazy how this isn't in every kids possession yet.
Experience is worse, they put everything behind a paywall even for paying customers. Everybody tries to get a refund. The reviews in the appstore are clear enough.
I like this app but you don't need that cable. You should have explained that it also works with a virtual or acoustic keyboard. Also since you're learning sheet music, I'm surprised you didn't review the sheet music view.
would be cool if there was a mode to just play the piano and have all sorts of effects shoot from the keys you press for those that can already play well
So do you have to plug in the USB C cable from the headset to keyboard, or is that optional? I have an older keyboard without midi. Can you play it without that?
Great, I have been wanting to play "Mysterious Tower", from Dragon Quest VIII. I can somewhat play "Calm silence before the storm", but I cannot read sheet music. It has been by ear for a while...
Thank you for answering my questions by showing the SET UP screens. Now I know I can use my RockJam Keyboard on Acoustic (btw..I got it for a steal on Amazon for under $60 USD. It has over 32,500+ reviews). I've never played piano and didn't want to spend a lot of money on a keyboard since I'm not sure I'll stick with it. Thank you for your help! AND of course, for the helpful video!
When I connect the Quest 3 directly to my keyboard the fps drops and starts stuttering. Specially when I press many keys at same time. Is it just me? Any ideas?
You might wanna go into the pianovision discord and see if anyone has assistance for you, I do experience stuttering with mine and may have to clear my game data soon (which removes all uploaded songs) to get it back to smooth
Great vid... Just tried it out myself, and it does work on my older (but still with USB) Yamaha keyboard. As a total newb, even at level 0, my first few attempts were pretty bad... (You can ignore the next part. Just got to the part of your vid where you talk about fingering and the numbers! I didn't notice that when I tried it!!! Thanx!) I kind of wish it might somehow suggest which fingers I should use or at least where to start with hand placement, as I can tell what I am doing isn't right. ;-) But I suppose if I keep at it, that will get better in time... (--end of part I totally missed and you covered.. -- ) I also wouldn't mind a more directed "learn to play" kind of mode. I saw the exercises, but wasn't sure where to start there... Perhaps there's some more info online (hence my checking RUclips).
great video! very informative and on point. no bloating. I bought Quest 3 myself partially for VR chat and Pianovision. at 9:42 you mention that you need a midi keyboard. I didn't know that electric keyboards can vary much. But looks like it might be the case, because Quest 3 doesn't want to connect to my Robson PR6100 electric piano. I thought it could be because it's old but perhaps it's because it's not a midi controller? Do you know?
I wouldn't know unfortunately, however, it does need to be midi compatible, so if you're not getting any signal, you might be out of luck. Although, you can play without midi enabled, you'll just need to slow down songs a lot to practice
When you make or upload your own midis, is it possible to add the hand split and or fingerings, or is that feature exclusive to the songs provided by piano vision? If you upload your own midi, could you provide a your own pdf for sheet music display, or does it always generate the sheet music from the midi?
You can add your own handsplit for the midi, the fingering can be added as well but there is a way to do it for piano vision I don't quite recall (was shared on their discord). Not too sure about sheet music, wasn't able to find an option there
Ah seems that I may need a USB-B to USB-C cable. Sharing here in case anyone else had the same question. Personally interested in custom video game songs such as Final Fantasy. 😃
I have absolutely no piano experience. Could it teach me the very basic like finger placements and movements and all the baby step? Or it is just another beat saber on piano keyboard?
More like guitar hero but for piano. Maybe it can help you get accustomed to moving around the piano, but you won't be able to play if you take off the headset
Sadly: It was a good app, but now they put everything behind a paywall, a monthly subscription on top of the app purchase. It was all included, song and features. But now they put everything behind a paywall everybody is requesting a refund. Not worth a monthly subscription. This is just milking customers.
200 hours and no before and after? You didnt say anything about what you've learned. How were you playing before hand? how are you playing now? Did you actually learn anything that you can use outside of the app? Did you learn any songs well enough that you can play without the headset and play well?
I can answer some of these in a follow-up I'm doing, but most of those are answered in a comment I make near the end: No, once the headset is off, the skills do not transfer over. It's like knowing how to do the movements, but not knowing how to describe how you know how to do the movements. Since there's no visual reference to move for where to move my hands, it doesn't transfer. I was not playing before hand as its from zero. Unfortunately I don't have much footage of that as I mainly started recording about a month in.
I stopped practicing like this about a few weeks after the video. Only play with the headset nowadays still. A follow-up video will be made at the 1 year mark so about a month or so from now
@@Jarods_Journey This is very interesting because I'm playing piano for 6 months now via a traditional piano teacher, I'm curious about the progress one can make using traditional methods vs this method. one certainly needs to use the music sheet together with the playing if one wants to be able to play without VR. But I think it might help to (if not) unconsciously get familiar with the actual notes on the sheet.
@@Jarods_Journey Aww shucks. I am contemplating getting a cheap digital piano for this. I been aching to learn as well. Not sure if this will keep me motivated enough.
@@nathew4152 Are you in the states? Bought mine a couple days ago on Amazon for $59.99 BUT no MIDI cable. "RockJam Compact 61 Key Keyboard with Sheet Music Stand, Power Supply, Piano Note Stickers & Simply Piano Lessons".
I just bought a weighted keys piano and was planning to buy the Quest 3, especially for using it with the piano. Like, you just saved me 500 quid, haha. Well, I've been thinking about buying a Quest 3 anyways. let's see.
VR itself is pretty cool though, so if you are looking to get into the space, then it's probably a justifiable purchase :), with just the addition of being able to play around with piano
Don't dismiss these apps, my Son started on one on an Android tablet, is now very good on Piano, plays pro on keys and guitar, but don't fool yourself, music is a talent, even for people with perfect pitch and talent it takes thousands of hours, but these apps are a much easier entry than struggling with sheet music to begin with.
Totally on board, the barrier of entry is heavily lowered with tools like this and may act as a gateway to more "traditional" methods. I've found piano vision awesome over this past year!
@@Jarods_Journey if it stops people buying guitars, it is a good thing, there are too many guitar players in the world and not enough keys players, most tend to be over 80 and smell funny. Also learn to play by ear, that's the most important skill.
Excuse me.. Debussy? 🤨 edging? Fingering? Damn, pianos are more exciting than I thought.
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very cool. My gaming soul would treat it like a rhythm game
I think I'm partially addicted because I love rhythm games lol
Seems like a great app! Although you said it's probably not worth it buying the Quest 3 just for that, it definetly is an argument along others. Good luck learning the piano, it's never too late for sure!
Thank you! Definitely shouldn't be the reason you buy a Quest 3, but if you want to try VR, now it's just an additional feature available.
It was a good app, but now they put everything behind a paywall, a monthly subscription on top of the app purchase. It was all included, song and features. But now they put everything behind a paywall everybody is requesting a refund.
Thanks for the review, I've had piano lessons and stopped recently. I've bought a quest 3 and I'm looking at getting this for some fun anime music too :)
you'd have to play the same song over and over for a week straight if you want to learn it without using the headset. you can't treat it like a game.
this review is 2 months old maybe your experience has changed.
meta could sell so many more headsets if they promoted this at every music store across the world.. something tech companies would actually do back in the day.
quest3 should technically be what guitar hero was 15 ish years ago, and vr music education could honestly be much bigger than guitar hero ever was.
crazy how this isn't in every kids possession yet.
U see the vision
Experience is worse, they put everything behind a paywall even for paying customers. Everybody tries to get a refund. The reviews in the appstore are clear enough.
I like this app but you don't need that cable. You should have explained that it also works with a virtual or acoustic keyboard. Also since you're learning sheet music, I'm surprised you didn't review the sheet music view.
would be cool if there was a mode to just play the piano and have all sorts of effects shoot from the keys you press for those that can already play well
Haha, well, the midi keys do light up in playing, so I assume that is completely doable lol
Just started this on my meta quest and its awesome
So do you have to plug in the USB C cable from the headset to keyboard, or is that optional? I have an older keyboard without midi. Can you play it without that?
It’s optional
It is optional but is totally reccomended as it syncs with your headset better. If your piano does not have a midi its ok
Great, I have been wanting to play "Mysterious Tower", from Dragon Quest VIII. I can somewhat play "Calm silence before the storm", but I cannot read sheet music. It has been by ear for a while...
Why my piano vision saids the falling notes cant be used on physical piano
is there a way i can tranfer the skill from vr to real life? Like what practice do I have to do
Are you high? This is literally that
@@tzaphkielmelekiyah1518 no like, even I’m good at the song I play on vr but I still can’t play irl
waiting notes keep getting stuck for me even when I press the right key and doesn't progress forward
nice, thx for this video
Thank you for answering my questions by showing the SET UP screens. Now I know I can use my RockJam Keyboard on Acoustic (btw..I got it for a steal on Amazon for under $60 USD. It has over 32,500+ reviews). I've never played piano and didn't want to spend a lot of money on a keyboard since I'm not sure I'll stick with it. Thank you for your help! AND of course, for the helpful video!
Ofc :), good luck with it and have fun!
When I connect the Quest 3 directly to my keyboard the fps drops and starts stuttering. Specially when I press many keys at same time.
Is it just me? Any ideas?
You might wanna go into the pianovision discord and see if anyone has assistance for you, I do experience stuttering with mine and may have to clear my game data soon (which removes all uploaded songs) to get it back to smooth
Great vid...
Just tried it out myself, and it does work on my older (but still with USB) Yamaha keyboard.
As a total newb, even at level 0, my first few attempts were pretty bad...
(You can ignore the next part. Just got to the part of your vid where you talk about fingering and the numbers! I didn't notice that when I tried it!!! Thanx!)
I kind of wish it might somehow suggest which fingers I should use or at least where to start with hand placement, as I can tell what I am doing isn't right. ;-) But I suppose if I keep at it, that will get better in time...
(--end of part I totally missed and you covered.. -- )
I also wouldn't mind a more directed "learn to play" kind of mode. I saw the exercises, but wasn't sure where to start there... Perhaps there's some more info online (hence my checking RUclips).
great video! very informative and on point. no bloating. I bought Quest 3 myself partially for VR chat and Pianovision.
at 9:42 you mention that you need a midi keyboard. I didn't know that electric keyboards can vary much.
But looks like it might be the case, because Quest 3 doesn't want to connect to my Robson PR6100 electric piano.
I thought it could be because it's old but perhaps it's because it's not a midi controller? Do you know?
I wouldn't know unfortunately, however, it does need to be midi compatible, so if you're not getting any signal, you might be out of luck. Although, you can play without midi enabled, you'll just need to slow down songs a lot to practice
When you make or upload your own midis, is it possible to add the hand split and or fingerings, or is that feature exclusive to the songs provided by piano vision? If you upload your own midi, could you provide a your own pdf for sheet music display, or does it always generate the sheet music from the midi?
You can add your own handsplit for the midi, the fingering can be added as well but there is a way to do it for piano vision I don't quite recall (was shared on their discord).
Not too sure about sheet music, wasn't able to find an option there
How did you disable the static color bars on top of the keys?
There should be a setting that you can toggle off - I forget the name of it on the top of my head but it's one of the settings you can set to "none"
6:45 you should be following the fingerings no matter how skilled you become
Saved this video for later. But I’m so curious about the results
Great video. What MIDI cable did you use to connect your piano to Quest 3?
Ah seems that I may need a USB-B to USB-C cable. Sharing here in case anyone else had the same question. Personally interested in custom video game songs such as Final Fantasy. 😃
Hi,my budget is 300-500,is fp18 a good choice?
Yo man! Do you know to edit a mini file or make one? Like to take a note or two out and in.
nvm smash the fuck out of my piano lol fuck life
There's a software called "midieditor" that you can download. Its free and allows you to edit the midifiles!
@@Jarods_Journey Never said TYVM!
cool video man, before you bought meta quest 3 and using piano vision app.. how long you have been playing piano?
Never lol, absolute beginner
I love this game I play everyday ❤
Oh shit 6:30 Evil Within ptsd.
I have absolutely no piano experience. Could it teach me the very basic like finger placements and movements and all the baby step? Or it is just another beat saber on piano keyboard?
More like guitar hero but for piano. Maybe it can help you get accustomed to moving around the piano, but you won't be able to play if you take off the headset
Sadly: It was a good app, but now they put everything behind a paywall, a monthly subscription on top of the app purchase. It was all included, song and features. But now they put everything behind a paywall everybody is requesting a refund. Not worth a monthly subscription. This is just milking customers.
200 hours and no before and after? You didnt say anything about what you've learned. How were you playing before hand? how are you playing now? Did you actually learn anything that you can use outside of the app? Did you learn any songs well enough that you can play without the headset and play well?
I can answer some of these in a follow-up I'm doing, but most of those are answered in a comment I make near the end: No, once the headset is off, the skills do not transfer over. It's like knowing how to do the movements, but not knowing how to describe how you know how to do the movements. Since there's no visual reference to move for where to move my hands, it doesn't transfer.
I was not playing before hand as its from zero. Unfortunately I don't have much footage of that as I mainly started recording about a month in.
Im curious how you now play without the headset and reading from a sheet.....
I stopped practicing like this about a few weeks after the video. Only play with the headset nowadays still. A follow-up video will be made at the 1 year mark so about a month or so from now
@@Jarods_Journey This is very interesting because I'm playing piano for 6 months now via a traditional piano teacher, I'm curious about the progress one can make using traditional methods vs this method. one certainly needs to use the music sheet together with the playing if one wants to be able to play without VR. But I think it might help to (if not) unconsciously get familiar with the actual notes on the sheet.
Hello! How's the learning?
Not too bad, playing songs in the headset is easier than before. My sheet learning though has not continued :/
@@Jarods_Journey Aww shucks. I am contemplating getting a cheap digital piano for this. I been aching to learn as well. Not sure if this will keep me motivated enough.
@@nathew4152 Are you in the states? Bought mine a couple days ago on Amazon for $59.99 BUT no MIDI cable. "RockJam Compact 61 Key Keyboard with Sheet Music Stand, Power Supply, Piano Note Stickers & Simply Piano Lessons".
I just bought a weighted keys piano and was planning to buy the Quest 3, especially for using it with the piano. Like, you just saved me 500 quid, haha. Well, I've been thinking about buying a Quest 3 anyways. let's see.
VR itself is pretty cool though, so if you are looking to get into the space, then it's probably a justifiable purchase :), with just the addition of being able to play around with piano
I love Debussy, just never finish on Debussy, always finish on the Bach
Pianovision app it's free or buy?
Gotta buy it
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My MIDI keyboards are USB-powered. Doh!!
Sub and likes! I just started my piano vision piano learning only got 3 song unloaded so far but got more otw.
Don't dismiss these apps, my Son started on one on an Android tablet, is now very good on Piano, plays pro on keys and guitar, but don't fool yourself, music is a talent, even for people with perfect pitch and talent it takes thousands of hours, but these apps are a much easier entry than struggling with sheet music to begin with.
Totally on board, the barrier of entry is heavily lowered with tools like this and may act as a gateway to more "traditional" methods. I've found piano vision awesome over this past year!
@@Jarods_Journey if it stops people buying guitars, it is a good thing, there are too many guitar players in the world and not enough keys players, most tend to be over 80 and smell funny. Also learn to play by ear, that's the most important skill.
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