Thomas Seymour tries to persuade Elizabeth to marry him (Becoming ELizabeth)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Thomas Seymour insists on his wish to marry Elizabeth Tudor, who firmly states that she would never marry without the council's consent.
    Becoming Elizabeth episode 5

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  • @renshiwu305
    @renshiwu305 2 года назад +91

    Thomas abruptly marries the king's widow, engages in clearly inappropriate behavior with a teenage Elizabeth (appearing in a state of undress before her, entering her bed chamber, grabbing her and removing some of her clothes), and then tries to exfiltrate the king from his home in the night. He was a schemer, through and through. Every man pursued the heiress to the throne for his own ambitions: Lord Thomas Howard the Lesser to Margaret Douglas (also, Catherine Howard's brother Charles); Northumberland's son Guildford to Jane Grey; Philip of Spain to Mary (and latterly Elizabeth); Leicester to Elizabeth; Lord Darnley to Mary, Queen of Scots; Edward Seymour the Younger to Katherine Grey (sister of Jane).

    • @shannonfick7170
      @shannonfick7170 10 месяцев назад +5

      Absolutely. He was a schemer. And it may not have been considered “grooming” then, but that’s exactly what he actually tried to do.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 3 месяца назад

      @@shannonfick7170 Not just tried, but actually did (at least according to/within this series)

  • @Belinda8881
    @Belinda8881 2 года назад +52

    A " very strong " Elizabeth in this scene. Wonderful the way she stood up to him when he talked about taking " the leap of faith" with him.

  • @MichSherl
    @MichSherl 2 года назад +25

    Elizabeth was very strong here, wonderful dialogue and good to see her standing up for herself! Thanks for posting Lili!

  • @chinavaughan6383
    @chinavaughan6383 3 месяца назад +8

    Elizabeth may have been young, but she was a quick learner. Having seen the kind of man he truly 0:53 was, there was no way that she would jeopardize her future as queen of England for him😒

  • @irawilliams343
    @irawilliams343 2 года назад +43

    Throughout the entire series I just kept waiting when Thomas will lose his head so that I can stop vomitting in my mouth

  • @jjs1300000
    @jjs1300000 2 года назад +42

    Thomas is a creep.

  • @MorriganWarrioress
    @MorriganWarrioress 2 года назад +21

    So this series goes with the idea that Elizabeth willingly engaged in a relationship with him? Interesting track.

    • @leogal063
      @leogal063 2 года назад +33

      Im going to go with she's an abused, forgotten teenager whose over whelmed that someones paying attention to her. Catherine Parr seemed to be portrayed as seeing how f'ed up it was.

    • @isobelduncan
      @isobelduncan 10 месяцев назад +6

      Historically, she did have some very mixed feelings about him. Plus she *was* just a teenage girl, so it's understandable that she'd be naive, though she did later realise just how foolish and dangerous it was to get involved with him.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 3 месяца назад +4

      @@leogal063 ...as in she was groomed by him.

  • @billiebuffalo
    @billiebuffalo 4 месяца назад +6

    Honestly Thomas Seymour makes my skin crawl. But if he looked like Tom Cullen, I too, would have a problem resisting...

  • @EmilyGloeggler7984
    @EmilyGloeggler7984 7 месяцев назад +7

    If Catherine Parr knew what her last husband would do after her death, she’d have been heartbroken.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 3 месяца назад +1

      If she sent Elizabeth far away when she saw them engaging in... a suspicious behaviour, she might have already suspected that.

  • @Ronkyort0dox
    @Ronkyort0dox Год назад +4

    This Thomas is hot

  • @kingofwhite6309
    @kingofwhite6309 2 года назад +3

    Great Video.

  • @savagedarksider5934
    @savagedarksider5934 2 года назад +5

    Hey, Lili1127(...) Did you see this Richard III movie on RUclips ?

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  2 года назад +1

      The only Richard III movie I have seen was the one with Laurence Olivier

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 2 года назад +1

      @@Lily1127channel Oh, Lili1127; there are so many Richard III movies you NEED to SEE.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  2 года назад +2

      I think all Richard III movies are the same if they are all based on Shakespeare's play. I am not a fan of that play.

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 2 года назад +1

      @@Lily1127channel Fair enough. But I really want to hear your opinion on the Tower of london from 1962.

    • @fiorellasanoni1458
      @fiorellasanoni1458 2 года назад

      Link please?

  • @Magdalenkaization
    @Magdalenkaization 2 года назад +8

    Was she really in love with him?

    • @ShiningFriendship87
      @ShiningFriendship87 2 года назад +52

      Some say she was receptive to Thomas Seymour, while others say he abused her. I believe it’s a little of both. Bottom line: Thomas groomed Elizabeth because he wanted to be King.

    • @Magdalenkaization
      @Magdalenkaization 2 года назад +7

      @@ShiningFriendship87 But nobody could foresee then that Edward VI would die so young, unmarried and childless.
      And even if so - there was still Mary before Elizabeth in the line of succession, as their father decided.

    • @ShiningFriendship87
      @ShiningFriendship87 2 года назад +25

      True, but given Mary’s age and Catholic faith, Thomas would have never been able to seduce her into marrying him. Elizabeth was a much easier prospect to manipulate for multiple reasons: her age, the fact that they lived in the same household for a time, and she found him attractive.

    • @jcmd221
      @jcmd221 2 года назад +6

      @@ShiningFriendship87 I agree. It was opportunity that Thomas saw but after the incident where Catherine Parr may have caught some sort of scene that she couldn’t say was innocent and the vicious rumors that followed Elizabeth wised up. She realized who Thomas was and realized the danger in taking flirtations no matter how “innocent” so far. I’m sure thoughts of her mother Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard helped enforce that

    • @Isabella2335.
      @Isabella2335. 2 года назад +11

      @@ShiningFriendship87 she had a crush on him and he knows that and took advantage of that.

  • @savagedarksider5934
    @savagedarksider5934 2 года назад +3

    First comment.

  • @lauren9004
    @lauren9004 8 месяцев назад +5

    Ugh Thomas 🤢🤮