Lost Chopin waltz discovered almost 200 years after it was written | BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
- A new piece of music believed to be by the Polish composer Frederic Chopin has been discovered.
The unknown waltz was unearthed in the vault of the Morgan Library and Museum in New York.
The rare manuscript - dated between 1830 and 1835 - was discovered by curator Robinson McClellan while he was cataloguing new collections.
He then worked with a leading Chopin expert to authenticate the score.
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Chopin responding to Mozart is crazy
Wonder how long Bach can keep silent on this...
Bach’s not gonna take this lying down
@@l3p3 🤣
Love this 💗💗💗
@@beastybacon199 he'll be Bach
Chopin dropping music till this day
He's dead...
@@SGC90-t5y you definitely missed the joke
@@ProfessorSnape22 ?
@@SGC90-t5y Woooosh
Some say his real name was Dropin...
Still composing whilst decomposing. What a guy!!
😂
Clever! 🙂
he's probably done decomposing now
@@Wherrimy and he did the-compose too! What a composed fellow indeed
😅😂😂
Chopin dropped new music before GTA 6 wild times
Ever heard of Half-Life 3?
Sad but true.
The funny thing is that joke should be old by now but the sheer ridiculousness of it keeps it funny
@@samuelzins5089 was gta6 released? if not, then it isn't old yet
@@GoodMorning-b2w Exactly. The ironic thing is I didn't find it that funny a year ago but I've seen some pretty good ones lately that have changed that
First Mozart, then Chopin. Here's hoping the trend continues.
It seems we're going in chronological order... Next one is Debussy, Ravel, Satie or something like that
@@catarinalunar Don't get my hopes up like that... I love French composers like those.
@@catarinalunar Or possibly it's more of a scavenger hunt thing, where we've got the new Classical and Romantic pieces checked off the list, and now we're going to get a Baroque and 20th-century piece, and maybe if we're lucky a new Renaissance motet or something?
@@catarinalunar imagine beethoven or schubert or even liszt, brahms or even johann strauss ii since next year will be strauss's 200th year since he was born.
Hoping for Bach next.
That's great that Chopin and Mozart are still composing!
Incredible. We all connected directly with Chopin again after 200 years. Beautiful!
It's likely not quite that old yet. Chopin was 14 in 1824.
Imagine how much more music/art we could've found if the world wars didn't happen. Billions upon billions of dollars of priceless art was lost to never be seen/heard again.
Mendelssohn discovered Bach's work in a form of cabbage wrap, which is a damn shame
@@choo1030I’ve heard it was actually found in paper used in butchers
Obviously leaving WW2 aside. But, if not for the outbreak of the First World War, the empires which occupied Polish lands wouldn't have fallen.
Austro-Hungary, Russian Empire, German Empire... all ceased to exist by the end of WW1. Had Chopin not died prematurely he might have seen the winds of change even by 1915, who knows.
OR if Chopin didn't order all the other unpublished and/or unfinished compositions destroyed upon his death in 1849. All of what we know of the lost 34 waltzes are the 5 bars (per waltz) handwritten by his sister, and the Fantasie-Impromptu would have been lost to history if not for Julian Fontana going against Chopin's last wishes and having it published after his death...
So, today, someone accidentally found a lost Mayan city, and a few hours later new old Chopin drops, what's next, Atlantis is discovered in a few hours?!
I need to look up this Mayan city now.
@@Xonatron The size of Edinburg, no less!
Don’t forget the new Mozart that was discovered a few weeks ago
@@RandomOrganist687 And that’s my next look up. Amazing times!!
That "accidentally" thing in the title of that news headline was weird tho, you don't just go to the grocery store to buy milk and then "accidentally" buy milk, the archeologists worked hard to look for signs of a civilization
Wake up babe, new Chopin waltz dropped.
The babe: 200 years old
A masterpiece, worth preserving!
Thank you curator for this amazing discovery 🎹
Chopin did not consider it a masterpiece since he locked it in a drawer and did not even make any corrections.
MASTERPIECE ??
Still better than today’s music.
In your opinion maybe, not in mine.
@@gio-oz8gfgood for you.
Edgy...
I bet you're not like all the other girls...
@@SGC90-t5y Its called having other taste smh...
THIS IS HUGE, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE CHOPIN'S MUSIC
SAME Chopin 🐐
Me too!!!
My favorite Pianist
Same ❤❤❤
@@bludikayou mean composer?
The night before this happened I had a dream that a new Chopin waltz was discovered. One of the coolest things that's happened to me.
*A 200-year old score by Chopin sends ripples through the world. Such is the enduring power of high music.*
*music
'High'? Here we go again...
The piece is a little treasure. I can see why Chopin never thought it was particularly important though - he was so gifted that music simply flowed from his mind and fingers like an endless stream and he would discard little trinkets and sketches like this all the time - believing they're unimportant.
No music touches the heart as much as his does, there really is nothing like it.
I mean, it is relatively minor (ba-dum tsss) compared to his other stuff, but it is lovely anyway
Another thing is that Chopin really has an issue with his works being "good enough". There are a lot of works by Chopin destroyed upon Chopin's last wishes because he thought they are not good enough. Chopin's personal opinion on the Fantasie-Impromptu Op.66 is it being "terrible" and ordered Julian Fontana (the recipient of the autograph piece) to have it destroyed upon his death...
It's unmistakably Chopin, and well worth the discovery.
I love Chopin this is the best news I’ve heard musically this week!
I know right! I was so happy to hear about this new waltz :)
Chopin was not only a master of creating melodies --- and harmonies -- that were quite unheard of for the time, but for the evolution of piano technique as well.
Yes, the first modern pianist, I'd say.
Chopin's piano etudes are still the best, most authoritative and most valuable for practice. Even the etudes of Scriabin, Rachmaninoff and Debussy cannot compare to it.
As someone who always loved classical music, this is something to look forward to. So excited to listen to it once it drops, if ever.
What was once lost is found. What was once old is new. I am loving all these different revelations from these past few months.
Finally a positive news, after many negative news regarding war, crimes etc... humanity needs more postive news
Wow, I’m so surprised at the fact that one of the great composer’s work was found so recently.
I’d like to listen to it again and play it. Piano music like Chopin is my best hobby.
Like a time capsule!
Finally some new music to get excited about.
I love it. It's a beautiful piece.
I love you Chopin 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
It’s a gift to all of us.
While a short piece it carries his magic!!!
Beautiful.
So beautiful
*The piece was discovered in his hand.*
This piece was a gift to us all, the audience.
Music to beautify the soul
I love Chopin
A masterpiece, as expected
After Scott Joplin, Chopin is my favorite compuser. It is amazing that we are in 2024 and receiveing New material from Chopin and Mozart!! Cant wait to hear vinheteiro playing it
Ooh! It sounds like chopin. Love it.
I think the official consensus among musical scholars and artists, is that Chopin was pretty good at tinkling the ivories.
I think the real gift is being able to capture the score.
@@NEXTLOOKING The real gift is all those fantastic people who can play Chopin's music for us today.
The OP was a little joke, but so mild a joke, that ppl replying don't realize it.
@@nandoflorestan It was very mild.
Looking forward to hear it properly!
I LOVE CHOPIN!!! MOZART GOT NOTHING ON THIS!!!!
Name one better song that came out this year.
Name one better song that came out this century.
Literally anything because this isn’t a song 🤓 its a piece
@@PuddinLord Chopin considered all of his works to be songs without words. Nearly melody he wrote was meant to be played in the sammer manner that Opera/Lieder singers would sing, the only difference would be the medium used to sing.
Chopin didn't make music for you to feel superior. Go away, your snobbery stinks.
@@user-iy6rm6pm4j bad day? XD I'm praising him, not myself
@@user-iy6rm6pm4j bad day? XD I was praising Chopin, not myself.
Exciting news for we Chopin lovers! Yahoo! 😀🎹 🎼💜
bro dropping mixtape from heaven
This fantastic discovery has Chopin's brilliance and characteristic in few bars but this is not entire work by Fryderyk Chopin's for many reasons.It is rather kind of theme, idea or Chopin's pedagogical homework for a student and rather amator pianist .All those dynamics written with sforzandos and fortissimos , detailed fingering all in space of few bars all of it is maybe even written already by a pupil .It feels like kind of homework with Chopin's own few bars . The manuscript's color of the paper and ink shows characteristics of Chopin's compositions from 1830-1835 so from the time when 20-25 years old Fryderyk Chopin was seeking refuge far away from home (courtesy to Russian czar) alone in Paris , missing his family, Warsaw and Poland just starting to establish himself in city of lights. He came to Paris in September 1830 . 15 months later he was already a star of Paris with local friends like Liszt ,Delacroix, Kalkbrenner, Balzac, Paganini, Mickiewicz,Hugo . Even Parisian critic who first complained about Chopin's ,,small'' tone now love him and understood poet of the piano.
Title and name of Fryderyk Chopin on this manuscript is not written by Fryderyk Chopin's hand.If it would be his gift to someone he would probably write something like dedication and signed it.
Nerveless this wonderful discovery of Chopin's few magnificent bars in New York City 190 years after its birth calls for celebration!
Beautiful Polish Music
He always makes a big sound . Chopin is my Favorite Musician . Mozart was his favorite, in fact they found Mozart and Bach sheet music 1 foot away from his bed on the day of his passing .
Makes perfect creative sense.
A gift.
I have always loved Chopin. His music is some of my most favorite on this planet. It's a pity he passed as young as he did, but I know he was sadly very ill most of his life. I always wonder why might have been though if he had held out for even a few more years. The music we missed out on, but I am so grateful for all of the music he gifted to the world before that. His memory will go on forever. Long Live Chopin!
After 200 years, the lost Chopin waltz is a hit, many people are covering the song on the internet.
I can't believe we're getting new singles from Chopin and Mozart before GTA 6
Amazing and brilliant news. Chopin is my favourite composer. It’s beautiful too.🎶🎶😍
First Mozart this year, now Chopin. When is Bach making his debut?
Yeah. He too will make a come Bach for sure.
When a forger finds time to make it. It's not so easy, you must find a piece of paper from the epoque, learn to forge handwriting and set the A.I. programm to write a music in the composer's style. It all takes time and effort, so I think, one or two years..... Maybe "new" Bach, maybe Beethoven, maybe Brahms......:D :D :D
That's wonderfull!!
the classics legends who went on a century or two hiatus are coming out with bangers seems to be a trend rn
Spotify when?
So here’s a crazy story: I live in New York and last year I had a teacher named Robin (foreshadowing) AND HE DISCOVERED THIS PIECE. Turns out Robin doesn’t play piano and I got the chance to sight read the piece BEFORE lang lang. I WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO PLAY A CHOPIN PIECE!!!!! (well after robin and Chopin himself of course)
Congrats my friend, that's a once in a lifetime opportunity. 👏
Nice.
I love it! Chopin has always been my favorite! I love his music!
Love this!
Chopin new releases are wild
I LOVE CHOPIN, AND HE GOT ME INTO CLASSICAL MUSIC, HOWEVER I'VE LEARNED SINCE THEN THAT TCHAIKOVSKY IS THE ALL-TIME GREAT MELODY MASTER !!!
no, is not.
best news I've heard all week
It's sublime
I love this piece.
YESSS OMG
Let's hope it's gonna be a banger!
I want someone to play this entirety and it drop #1 on RUclips 🎶
Exciting and similar story to the Coltrane quartet featuring Eric Dolphy record that was just found in a New York library which also features a few waltzes… very neat !
Chopin stepping on Tyler's new album release from beyond the grave, what an absolute savage
Increíble, me pregunto cuántas piezas de Mozart, Chopin,Bach,etc se habrán perdido.
❤
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It's certainly a very undeniably Chopinesque piece with his unique signature charm. I'm looking forward to Bach and Beethoven's new releases next 😍🎶🎶
I'm sure there will be a newly discovered works of these composers too. The forger's gonna make it quite quickly, like this fake Chopin's piece. :D .Forging art ( and music) is a very lucrative business.
I love Chopin wow what amazing news
Best day ever
amazing
Banger.
Poles apart from today's popular music is Chopin, but though I live now, my ear wants to listen back to the early and mid 1800s.
Or rather, he was a Pole, and was apart from today's music!
@@TonyG-z4t Well, Poles can be rather polarizing!
Love Chopin, very few music lovers don"t. This is like discovering a new Looney Tunes Road Runner cartoon!
I love Chopin❤
Now we just need to find Sibelius' lost 8th Symphony, Schubert's 10th, and Florence Price's Rhapsody for Piano and Orchestra, and I'll never ask for anything again.
I know none of these are likely, but I can dream, right?
Why didn't they play the whole thing. It sounds great. ❤
Ich liebe Lang Lang und Mozart und Chopin
Mozart dropped his new song from beyond the grave, Chopin had to respond. Waiting for Beethoven next 😂
Having listened to the whole thing, it's beautiful but it sounds unfinished. Would've loved to hear what Chopin had in mind for the rest of the piece if he decided to continue with it
Bach : "l had experienced this long before you were born, guys."
holy crap MY WIFE CHOPIN!!! thank you lang lang for playing. my other wife mozart uploaded a new piece a bit ago too. i love my wives
Exciting news
🤞
What is it called? Where can I listen to it?
Greetings from Poland:)
Greetings!
❤LOVE❤ from South Korea ❤💙🇰🇷❤️🔥🇵🇱❤🤍
Pianist in the recording attacks it like it's a bit of Tchaikovsky, though.
THIS IS LIKE HIS BEST WALTZ WTF
I always have wondered why there was so many musical geniuses back then..?
What a nice Halloween present 🎁🎃✨
Mozart and Chopin on their deathbed did more for music in the 21st century than 99% of today's artists
It's a pity that we could hear Lang Lang playing it only some seconds!
A gift!!? Like Presto Con Legerezza gifted to Edward Wolff (and found in a US Library!!!) Could be!! Stylistically, 1830 -35 looks good. What is the forensic analysis of paper, ink, handwriting etc???
This is great news. This is news.
I wish they would let us listen to that music first than listen to the curator.
Billboard top 10 in coming days
Amazing
Chopin dropped a new single before GTA VI or Elder Scrolls VI came
I remember that one